# <:roblox_modern:1483215497540407538> | Introducing the US 18+ DevEx Rate: Earn 42% More on Spen...

[plush rose]

ok

[heavy flame]

bruh

[magic escarp]

what

[finite rune]

😯

[last topaz]

they tryna get r6 out of here

[stray saddle]

W

[drowsy current]

soo more money basically

[coral quartz]

goated?

[shadow cradle]

fuck

[ashen kite]

You had me at 42% more

[loud flint]

W

[harsh crystal]

money

[iron acorn]

byebye r6

[turbid barn]

money

[tardy flare]

Wouldn’t that break the game?

[quartz plaza]

this'll only promote gambling games

[umbral ravine]

Wut

[iron acorn]

u think they care to outdate some games ?

[uneven helm]

Who are the dummies down voting

[restive spire]

all the likes are from fat chuds who only make brainrot slop to get quick money so they use r15 anyways

[silent island]

alright this is genuinenly good

[topaz wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-money-spongebob-gif-8454828

[cedar sage]

Fr

[thick ether]

if they do that my 10+ years of games is gone.

[hybrid helm]

so, does this mean they decided to not make u need roblox plus to upload games?

[iron acorn]

you just saying buzzwords atp

[hollow pecan]

Noice!

[dense dew]

No

[harsh crystal]

r15 avatars

[tardy flare]

Lots of today’s games use r6

[harsh crystal]

bro

😂

[cerulean bobcat]

Who disliked bro

[shut oyster]

oh so theyre gonna bribe devs into staying, i see

[hybrid helm]

could have sworn it was supposed to come out today

[pallid roost]

guys i don’t think you understand what this update means

[iron acorn]

i said nothin bout that btw

[still zinc]

My mom

[cerulean bobcat]

Forced hate

[harsh crystal]

"Additionally: games that qualify for this enhanced rate MUST have R15 avatars enabled"

[hybrid helm]

whats it mean

[wooden maple]

No, you get paid more money if you are above 18 years of age

[topaz wasp]

r 15 animated faces r6 gambling promote bad

[still zinc]

💔💔🔥🔥

[cerulean bobcat]

[hollow pecan]

People hating to hate oml this is amazing

[thick ether]

what is it like $5 for permanent servers etc, i get why youd dislike that but really doesnt seem bad in my eyes. for most people that shouldnt be an issue

[devout canopy]

forgot something important, i suggest reading the announcement again

[coral quartz]

phasing out r6

[dense dew]

I find it hard to believe they’re doing this entirely in good faith

[still zinc]

meow meow meow meow

[vital python]

needs to be r15

[harsh crystal]

Additionally: games that qualify for this enhanced rate MUST have R15 avatars enabled

[pallid roost]

it’s literally more money from users who are 18 years of age regardless of what game they play

[still zinc]

meow meow meow meow meow

@devout canopy

[hollow pecan]

That’s not what the announcement was talking abt tho

[still zinc]

meow

😠😠😠

[hybrid helm]

and the verafy, i wouldent mind it if it was only roblox plus. but its more a matter of principle of not giving big companies my face or id

[wooden maple]

except you need to turn on r15

[topaz wasp]

wait why is it only for r15 avatar games

blawg

[still zinc]

Nvm

[harsh crystal]

they're trying to slowly phase r6 out

[hollow pecan]

So if you do something good it’s not good because you have any personal incentives behind it?

[vivid solar]

omg utf8

[hybrid helm]

and the fact a lot of ppl might not be able to afford roblox plus

[still zinc]

Im leaving this place

[pallid roost]

fuck

[coral quartz]

you have to use r15 to be eligible

[devout canopy]

18+ players coming to Roblox expect a higher fidelity look and feel. R15 Avatars allow additional articulation (e.g., knees, elbows) thereby enabling more realistic movement, and enable layered clothing, expressive character systems, and many other features of modern gameplay.
Roblox

[onyx mirage]

Cause apparently more mature audiences want a more realistic experience

[pallid roost]

i didn’t even notice that it had to be r15

[pallid roost]

lies

[harsh crystal]

yeah thats the bs part

[hollow pecan]

Not that deep

[wooden maple]

not to be confused with the other utf8, I've had this user for a while

[proven bloom]

This update is awesome for r6 devs too https://fixupx.com/Zenuuux/status/2049965401375666670

Zenuux (@Zenuuux)

If someone (US 18+) has 1,000,000 Robux still valued $3.50 per 1K Robux, they could spend it in their game, get 700,000 Robux and DevEx it at $5.396 per 1K Robux.
︀︀
︀︀1M x 0.0035 = $3,500
︀︀700K x 0.005396 = $3,777
︀︀
︀︀7.9% increase if laundered this way, not trying to give tips. $RBLX

Quoting Bloxy News (@Bloxy_News)
︀
Starting June 8, 2026, Roblox will be increasing the DevEx rate by 42% for eligible games that have players over 18 years old spending Robux. To be eligible, games should use R15 avatars.
︀︀
︀︀Full details: devforum.roblox.com/t/4607091

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FixupX · Apr 30, 2026, 9:33 PM

[topaz wasp]

r15 isn't even realistic bro 💔

[thick ether]

yeah thats more fair then personally i dont care because like everyones faces is out there anyways. you do you though that is a fair reason

[pallid roost]

r15 isn’t even realistic

[kindred shoal]

great update

[hollow pecan]

What were you implying then

[south knot]

R15 required

[harsh crystal]

thats the thing and even more realism does not look good in a roblox game.....

[pallid roost]

i thought roblox was about being as unrealistic as possible

[latent parcel]

Wait you need your game to be r15?

[south knot]

Yep

[harsh crystal]

yh

[coral quartz]

yes

[pallid roost]

unless it’s very well done

[latent parcel]

what the fuck bro

[south knot]

And its a North America exclusive

[topaz wasp]

gotta make a custom model that looks like r6 but is actually an r15 model to make more money 🗣️

[south knot]

:\

[proven bloom]

Wth same tag

[latent parcel]

They are CLEARLY trying to phase out r6

[vital python]

smart

[harsh crystal]

wait what if u enable r15 avatars and just change the model to r6 🤫

[hybrid helm]

thanks for respecting it man, hope u have a great day

[south knot]

With scripts, could be smart

[harsh crystal]

deadliest idea

[proven bloom]

https://fixupx.com/Zenuuux/status/2049965401375666670

Zenuux (@Zenuuux)

If someone (US 18+) has 1,000,000 Robux still valued $3.50 per 1K Robux, they could spend it in their game, get 700,000 Robux and DevEx it at $5.396 per 1K Robux.
︀︀
︀︀1M x 0.0035 = $3,500
︀︀700K x 0.005396 = $3,777
︀︀
︀︀7.9% increase if laundered this way, not trying to give tips. $RBLX

Quoting Bloxy News (@Bloxy_News)
︀
Starting June 8, 2026, Roblox will be increasing the DevEx rate by 42% for eligible games that have players over 18 years old spending Robux. To be eligible, games should use R15 avatars.
︀︀
︀︀Full details: devforum.roblox.com/t/4607091

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FixupX · Apr 30, 2026, 9:33 PM

[pallid roost]

actually genius

[thick ether]

thank you i hope the same for you as well rocha

[harsh crystal]

yeah i dont mind get ur money up chat just change the avatars to r6 🤤

[latent parcel]

The last straw was 15 straws ago

[thick ether]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-bizzare-adventure-josuke-okuyasu-happy-excited-gif-26223340

[hybrid helm]

btw is this feature only available for r15 games or smth? cause i dont rlly understand it

[south knot]

Do they

[vivid solar]

I've already seen someone do this

[pallid roost]

yes

[south knot]

Actually

[hybrid helm]

oh

[harsh crystal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1495986343300436039/1498573755293896867/togif.gif

[pallid roost]

i’m changing my vote to dislike now

[thick ether]

peak fiction

[pallid roost]

actually imma do mid

[south knot]

Seriously though does any 18+ Roblox player actually care if the game is more "realistic" or not

[dense dew]

Well, there’s been a recent push by global tech syndicates to make online spaces increasingly inaccessible for children. I am worried that this could be part of that, as Roblox has been in favor of this in the past. The reason that this is alarming to me is because tech companies want that so they can require IDs to use their services. I heavily value my anonymity and do not want my legal citizenship tied to my Roblox account.

Corporations don’t just give you money without wanting something

[modern dome]

What’s up with the r15 part

[rain violet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/funny-job-SOmjomEnNHsrK

[vital python]

woah what

[vivid solar]

oh i replied to the wrong

uh

i just misread

[modern dome]

No. I’ve been here since 07. It’s like watching minecraft turn into GTA

[dense dew]

Furthermore it threatens to make online spaces more dangerous for kids by forcing them to either lie about their age or get a bright target painted on their face

[topaz wasp]

roblox being weird

[dense dew]

More money and Roblox being treated as a more serious dev platform is cool and all

But corporations are not my friend

[rapid flint]

** You are now Level 1! **

[south knot]

What i got from this update is that Roblox isn't prioritizing kids any longer, the whole thing with "Roblox Kids" and the ACTUAL Roblox is 16+ now, the increased DevEX for 18+ games

[south knot]

Could be just me, but i seriously doubt they care about the children

[unkempt stream]

LETS GOO MORE MONEY IDC ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE 🤑🤑

[dense dew]

The children make them mad steal a brainrot money

[serene totem]

https://tenor.com/view/why-is-he-gif-3749724709641675358

[modern dome]

They don’t understand who their target audience is anymore. We’re gonna go through a lot of bullshit in the next three years.

[lusty stone]

yes, correct.. i was just thinking

[dense dew]

I’m sure nothing bad will come from encouraging more 18+ experience on a kid’s platform

[lusty stone]

"..what about like the other ones"

[dense dew]

Nothing at all

[pseudo sequoia]

yay a good update

[harsh crystal]

[hollow pecan]

Yeah so you implied what I said? I said they can’t be good just because they have a personal incentive involved? This update increases pay for devs btw, whilst allowing Roblox to reach a less tapped into audience. Is that so bad?

[coral quartz]

eh, not really

[topaz wasp]

I honestly don't think they even have a target audience

[pseudo sequoia]

y?

[lusty stone]

mf just doin shi

[uneven helm]

People downvoting

[modern dome]

The problem is that they’re trying to cater to everyone and they don’t know how. And they don’t listen to the player base either

[dense dew]

Corporate autocracy stealing your information so they can sell it and treat you like a product is bad, yes.

[harsh crystal]

they're slowly transitioning r6 out

[pseudo sequoia]

ohhh dang

[lusty stone]

[dense dew]

An extra 20 cents is not worth another brick paved on this road

[pseudo sequoia]

oof

[south knot]

I doubt they'll completely remove it, will probably be like gears

[harsh crystal]

hidden motive to this

[dense dew]

It’s still a ridiculously unfair rate anyways

They deserve a majority share of profits but Roblox pays peanuts because it can get away with it

[harsh crystal]

i hope the dont like at all???

[south knot]

Like yeah they want to, but if they did i wouldn't be surprised if most of the platform just gave up

[raw spear]

r15 is ass

[hollow pecan]

Why even call it an autocracy and it’s not bad as it’s for targeted ads; it’s not like the government is collecting your Roblox info because you have some secret to hide

[lusty stone]

its not THAT ass

[quiet surge]

Removing r6 is like a sandwhich without bread

[uneven helm]

“Extra 20 cents” somebody failed maths

[lusty stone]

like id only say r15 is some dookie only with the classic blocky body.

[modern dome]

Roblox has been around for too long, and has too much history to have a major aesthetic change. They’re ruining their brand when they push for realism. This site has been around even before Minecraft.

[dense dew]

I’m using hyperbole to get my point across

[south knot]

R15 should have been reverted to its original 2018 shape since they just gave up on Rthro

[shut zodiac]

Personally couldn't care less about the changes

[pseudo geyser]

game is changing from Roblox to RoHuman

[modern dome]

I don’t understand why they’re pushing for this change. I only see the realistic packages used when people want to look ugly on purpose

[hollow pecan]

They did for faces it’s not like the game died bc of it

[south knot]

Most of the issues people had with R15 are the janky gaps right? They intentionally made R15 worse to be able to introduce rthro bundles i remember

[hallow kayak]

i thought it was a good update until i read the r15 bit

[dense dew]

There are entire industries built around cross referencing the private data that gets stolen from you across millions of databases online to learn more about you. It’s disturbing

[south knot]

Before that it looked quite good

[quiet surge]

r15 barely looks good and when it's used right it's hella expensive

[dense dew]

But by all means. Cheer because they’re giving you what is still a lousy deal

[uneven helm]

It doesn’t affect anyone, they are not forcing you to verify and this does heavily increase earnings

[south knot]

I honestly like r15 even with the blocky avatar because i can do the neat poses and emotes

[raw spear]

its pretty bad

[south knot]

I don't really mind the gaps :P

[lusty stone]

thats better

[modern dome]

I’ve been here since the start. I’m sorry but I hate seeing how this platform is going. It was so stable and consistent, with a style everyone loves. If they completely remove classic features, that’s 20 years of internet history gone

[dense dew]

Yeah they’re only tying major features behind it and lobbying to make it a requirement

That’s all

[hollow pecan]

40 percent for above 18 in NA is stinky? What do you want them to fork over 40 percent for every age category slashing their earning to investors?

[south knot]

It's worse if your character is only brickcolors then yeah but usually good clothing hides it good enough

[low forum]

bread and circuses

[toxic quarry]

set the game to r15 and make the startercharacter r6

[uneven helm]

What “major” features

[modern dome]

I thought of doing this

[dense dew]

The industry standard is 70%

[hearty skiff]

the platform was already jover the moment tix was removed 🥀

[dense dew]

Minimum

[quiet surge]

Do y'all think roblox is gonna make it to 2028

[toxic quarry]

no bro

[rain violet]

It was necessary to be removed.

[dense dew]

Look I could go off all day but you clearly aren’t actually interested in what I have to say.

[hollow pecan]

70% for what

[uneven helm]

I swear people always find something to complain about

[rain violet]

it was breaking the economy

[modern dome]

People say this all the time but honestly, it was ugc and voice chat that started the downfall. And 2020 with the surge of players

[south knot]

Nope

[dense dew]

The industry standard for these sorts of publishing platforms is that 70% of the revenue generated goes to the developer

[south knot]

If they managed to do all of this in roughly a year or so

[uneven helm]

Either way this is not the thread to complain of age verification. So my point still remains

[south knot]

They are not making it out until 2028

[opaque dew]

true, they hide their real intent to nuke r6 with "Additionally: games that qualify for this enhanced rate MUST have R15 avatars enabled" as if this isn't them desperately trying to convince devs to lock r6 away

[dense dew]

You just have to get the last word in huh?

[rain violet]

It was in 2021 when they opened the platform for the investors

[quiet surge]

This year is already so bad forroblox and the worst part is that we're only 5 months into it

[dense dew]

This is literally a thread about an age verification related issue

[rain violet]

less.

[uneven helm]

Still, there was a thread about it specifically, this is a compensation for it

[hollow pecan]

And Roblox is pushing it up? Why would they put it to 70% that only hurts investors because the influx of new developers wouldn’t make up for the loss in revenue

[uneven helm]

So it’s a good thing

[south knot]

Unfortunately they're still an multi-billion dollar corp i doubt it could be THAT fast

[modern dome]

Yes, but the rise in popularity and the poorly moderated ugc/voice chat accelerated these problems

[grand wadi]

ofc its r15 exclusive

[sour hemlock]

requireing r15 is dumb

my game is r6 bro 😭

[south knot]

No, Voicechat is honestly more good than bad, and UGC is really great. But they both got handled poorly

[dense dew]

And yet those companies survive just fine. I could go off on how prioritizing short term investor satisfaction over long term platform health is bad, obviously, but that’s beyond the scope of this discussion.

[echo finch]

Cmon you know they can’t do good updates there has to be a down side

[sour hemlock]

yup

[opaque dew]

‼️

[dense dew]

We’ve known this since General Electric in the 20s

[hollow pecan]

Ye 40b dollar company is totally dying before 2028 lol; if I could bet otherwise I would put my life savings on it

[south knot]

I meant more-so good than bad, as in on itself , what the community does with it is something else

[echo finch]

Fr

[rain violet]

they already lost 7b with schlep ban + classic faces removal

[shell shale]

UGC is handled horrendously

[modern dome]

Roblox voice chat is horribly moderated. They can barely handle chat logs. It’s all AI.

I’ve been in On tap several times, and there’s children on the mic there. It’s a flawed system, and you can bypass censors so easily with voice chat.

[south knot]

Should have never went public i think this is an universal opinion

[dense dew]

Buddy I don’t think it was the classic faces removal I think it was the countless lawsuits and bad PR

[shell shale]

Like what do you mean Roblox takes 70%???

[kindred shoal]

it was inevitable, glory to God

[dense dew]

Dynamic faces actually EARNED the investors

[shell shale]

What do you mean a game earns more off my items than me???

[rain violet]

they lost 3b due to classic faces desvalorization

[dense dew]

But I didn’t see anyone saying to think about the poor billionaires when they took those from us

[low forum]

going public was an omen

[shell shale]

I agree.

[opaque dew]

they are not even trying to hide it anymore that they don't care about r6 and want roblox to be metaverse instead of it's true initial identity

[south knot]

Which is why i said they both got handled poorly, it could have been really great, and on very little it's alright, but it still mostly sucks

[dense dew]

Nice claim senator how about you back that up with a source

[hollow pecan]

Too speculative how would you know the 8 percent loss was from the faces

[sour hemlock]

totally

[dense dew]

Enshittification happens every time

[sour hemlock]

I literally like r6 more, it feels more classic

[south knot]

That too

[sour hemlock]

"Adults want more realistic movement" bs

[low forum]

the fact that they’re bound to investors accelerates the enshittification

[rain violet]

RTC

[south knot]

Icy cold take

[shell shale]

Straight lies

[low forum]

i don’t even do roblox gamedev anymore i’m just here to watch them shoot themselves in the foot repeatedly

[opaque dew]

every other AAA game:

[dense dew]

That’s not a source that’s the vague notion that a source exists. I mean a tangible link and quote

[hollow pecan]

It’s been like that for 4 years and the player base has grown

[shell shale]

All the adults love r6 because it's what they grew up with

[sour hemlock]

yup

[opaque dew]

so real omg im doing that too, i went to godot

[dense dew]

🤝

[south knot]

Exponential growth too, some years ago 100k+ CCU was an milestone

[rain violet]

teens too

[dense dew]

Moved my projects to godot

[south knot]

Apparently we have MILLIONS of players in a single game now

[shell shale]

Roblox sources all their opinions from their brainwashed staff 😭

[sour hemlock]

no no, we're not shooting outselver in the foot

Roblox is shooting us in the brain

over

and

over

[hollow pecan]

👍

[dense dew]

Companies want exponential growth in a system with finite value

This is also known as cancer

[south knot]

There's no foot left.

[low forum]

playerbase growth doesn’t mean the platform still hasn’t gone to shit

[modern dome]

There’s no reason why they can’t keep r6 and that’s what pisses me off

[hollow pecan]

Uhhh dude the, “finite value” is pretty high

[low forum]

the only people at roblox corp i have some respect for is the engineers that roll out some cool features every now and then to studio

everything else is a race to the bottom

[sour hemlock]

but they are the ones that roll out all the cheeks features too

[hollow pecan]

It doesn’t?

[modern dome]

They literally had the classic event, just to rip away all the features and resell offsale classic items for 3x the price

[dense dew]

Once again. We’ve known this doesn’t last forever since GENERAL ELECTRIC from the 1920s

[opaque dew]

❗

[lavish anchor]

There is. They want to push those realistic model and they'll start with r16 :/

[modern dome]

They don’t care and they know full well that people love classic Roblox

[south knot]

I wouldn't judge any of the developers at all really, most of this is definetely done and forced by the higher-ups and they have to comply.

[dense dew]

This is just the end result of placing the value of art based on money

[rain violet]

I think theres a diff team for the studio and the platform itself

[sour hemlock]

stutio updates are bad too

[hollow pecan]

What about General Electric? The one that’s still growing in value?

[sour hemlock]

like what is this new GUI

for studio

[modern dome]

Whats the reason?

[dense dew]

We’re not Newgrounds or something, they’re a business and they’ll gladly make the platform worse if it means short term growth

[south knot]

Even from a greedy POV they could have done so MUCH more with The Classic

[rain violet]

like 1/4 of upds are bad

its not like roblox thats 11/12

[modern dome]

What are you trying to say with this

[low forum]

I’m honestly a bit glad Roblox is fumbling so hard because it’s motivated me to learn lots of things about Blender in the past few months

[south knot]

That even when they're trying to milk something for money, they fail

[hollow pecan]

That in his opinion the investors played their cards bad

[low forum]

ofc it still sucks that it happeed but yeah

[lavish anchor]

I just stated the reason. They want to push those realistic model to get rid of classic blocky model.

[opaque dew]

true

[uneven helm]

I get what you’re saying, but that’s kind of true for literally any big platform

[south knot]

It's what bugs me the most about them, seriously

[dense dew]

In short: General electric experienced a massive drop in quality of their product as the result of prioritizing the profits of their investors because it incentivized them to make anti consumer decisions

Here’s a longer video on the subject because video essays are all the rage these days https://youtu.be/W8Z3MfNpJpE?si=wDcGWjrKccGwQaJJ

[modern dome]

None of it makes sense to me. It’s frustrating

[dense dew]

Yeah and it sucks next question

[south knot]

This guy is pretty neat

[dense dew]

Oh shit my hot pockets are done

Okay you guys keep arguing I’m gonna eat those

[opaque dew]

but i think they are aiming to get like the facbook lizard cuz he likes metaverses and roblox is trying to turn himself into a metaverse

[dense dew]

Peace

[south knot]

Bon appetit

[uneven helm]

Well it’s more like a trade-off bro, sometimes their decisions suck for devs, but the whole ecosystem is still the reason a lot of people can even make games and earn money in the first place.

[hollow pecan]

Thought you were talking about how a company hits a finite value in possible profit gains

[south knot]

I think they're trying to replace him, Meta was an catastrophic failure

[low forum]

dante should have put greed as a worse sin than treachery when he was writing inferno ngl

[south knot]

70b+ down the drain

[hollow pecan]

Bonaparte reference?

[final stag]

feels like they just slapped on "you earn more money" to compensate for crappy updates

[south knot]

It's just a popular french saying 😭

Though im curious now

[rain violet]

There should have a new April 1st 2012 incident

[low forum]

it’s just like when they reverted the name of connections to friends

[south knot]

What is that

[hollow pecan]

Grrr

[opaque dew]

i wish the mc for that book wasn't a merry sue cuz i can't read it because of that

[modern dome]

I’m angry because you can’t just make another Roblox. It was one of the first internet games that was FREE, and the first that allowed you to create your own games for free. They’re ruining something that cannot be replicated by anyone else.

[south knot]

Im not French

Ita just popular in general

[final stag]

the whole update is really just a removal of passion projects and boosting corporate roblox games which i completely disagree with

[low forum]

i bet you if they change the marketplace back to “catalog” hundreds of thousands will genuinely applaud and forget everything else that has been done

[final stag]

also, don't a LOT of popular games use r6? imagine block tales in r15 lmao

[south knot]

Splendid, let's stay ontopic though :P

[opaque dew]

YES EXACTLY

[hollow pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-frieren-no-not-nope-gif-5781751025776721420

[south knot]

Yeah

Which is why i doubt itll be removed

[south knot]

Friereeen 🥹

[spice kayak]

Update doesnt suck, its beneficial with no downside to current roblox, what DOES suck is that to access it u need r15

[final stag]

they just keep excluding support for anythng related to r6

[hollow pecan]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-anime-elf-cute-kawaii-gif-1391919008270779198

[south knot]

^^^^^^

[final stag]

its sad

[south knot]

As much as people really want to you simply can't recreate Roblox

Its lightning in a bottle really

[modern dome]

Dude next year marks 20 years on the game for me. I have never seen updates this bad before

[hollow pecan]

Can’t be replicated

[final stag]

yeeah ;(

[uneven helm]

Harsh, but yeah, passion alone doesn’t make money. On Roblox (or anywhere else), what actually gets paid is player retention, engagement, and monetization, not how much heart you put into a project.

[upbeat flame]

So it seems more older people are playing Roblox than kids. Why do they need to do this?

[final stag]

yeah

[lavish anchor]

what did i say wrong

[south knot]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-frieren-elf-girl-cute-gif-263983576005129910

[opaque dew]

it's because the ones driving the opinions on topics are influencers that profit out of making fast videos that don't take time to really consider the bigger picture and want to cash out of the new huge topic while getting kids to agree with them.

[hollow pecan]

To reach a bigger audience?

[upbeat flame]

True, they're trying to increase their revenue

[final stag]

yeah

they can't keep relying on investors all the time

havent they been losing money for years

[hollow pecan]

Isn’t that the whole point of updates

[opaque dew]

just like they did with classic faces

[uneven helm]

^

[upbeat flame]

It must be from the recent demographic changes though.

[uneven helm]

Complaining of a company for doing what every company does

[south knot]

This literally would work months ago

But people have caught on

[hollow pecan]

I mean idk a big corporation that doesn’t do things with profit in mind

Even donating money is for good looks to attract people

[modern dome]

I miss when Roblox was less popular than Minecraft

[south knot]

Everytime they do an small good thing now people will always notice "you can't just gloss over the previous update" which isn't something that really happened before from what i noticed

[hollow pecan]

Not like there’s a problem with that

[upbeat flame]

I'm just saying they're basing their decisions on demographic changes that are happening now. That's my opinion

[final stag]

i understand that they need to actually turn a profit. that's fair. i understand buying a subscription to roblox plus to use studio, but stuff like r6 removal and forced dynamic heads is all just pointless bull

[uneven helm]

And this is bad because? This affects every single game with USA players over 18 who re the majority of Roblox players, so it also benefits small games

[upbeat flame]

I guess you're right

[modern dome]

Exactly

[uneven helm]

Agree, but charging for studio seems super fair to me

[final stag]

thats what i mean

[uneven helm]

Taking in consideration everything Roblox ecosystem offers

[south knot]

As many other people said, most developers won't really care and will pay up for Plus if needed, but the issue now is that they're kind of ruining the point of Roblox being the most accessible game engine

[final stag]

from what i understand a lot of the age grouping things are kind of forced because of lawsuits

[south knot]

Like even having an entry wall in the first place, as small as it is, still affects how people view trying to get in

[final stag]

roblox did not decide completely independently to add age grouping, it's law mandated stuff

but it still sucks yk

[south knot]

They are 100%

Im surprised people haven't realized earlier its been everywhere

[final stag]

yeah

[opaque dew]

"Additionally: games that qualify for this enhanced rate MUST have R15 avatars enabled" ah yes let's just ignore this whole part where it's clearly an attempt to slowly but surely get rid of r6 because they know if they got rid of it people would complain and they can't get customers upset cuz upset customers drives investors away

[south knot]

By that logic Roblox would be so bankrupt right now

[final stag]

it would be nice if an actual decent solution to roblox creeps was implemented instead of whatever this is

[uneven helm]

I get what you mean, but Roblox isn’t just accessible because it’s free. Roblox is accessible because it gives you everything, you build in Roblox Studio, it handles servers, multiplayer, and even lets you earn through Robux. You don’t need extra tools, money, or experience to get started.

[final stag]

yeah, roblox is just more "modular" compared to most other options for game publishing

[south knot]

I mean... doesn't all of that fall under the "free" category?

You dont have to pay up for it

[lavish anchor]

I don't really get why gaming industries keep shooting themselves in the foot. One of the most well loved gaming platform is steam because of how they so player/consumer first. Gaming company saw their growth potential and decided to be like "you kno what, we going against what players want and see if business is booming".

[uneven helm]

Name one platform that handles all that for 20 dollars

[south knot]

Well it depends, i suppose, but most of the time no

[final stag]

godot?

wait

unity

[south knot]

Godot is a game engine only i don't think they handle publishing

[final stag]

ah okay

publishing included

[uneven helm]

Well yes

What he said

[final stag]

yeah then i can only think of roblox

polytoria sort of counts but it won't work fundamentally

[south knot]

I HONESTLY wouldn't mind having a fee to upload a game, my issue is that it's all tied to an subscription service BS

[south knot]

Like in any other platform it is usually an one-time payment, yeah?

[opaque dew]

yeah but it's more of a damage control thing they do want to remove r6 but saying it out load would be too big for them to handle seeing how things are going, i already saw 10 devs quit of roblox and they are just the ones i know, how much more devs are quitting because of that?

[uneven helm]

Servers alone is a huge advantage, you know how expensive is to buy and maintain servers

[uneven helm]

I would also prefer a fee

[south knot]

Yeah they get pretty expensive pretty fast

[rotund girder]

so this suggests developers to actually put effort into making quality games capable of maintaining older and younger audiences?

[south knot]

That is fair

[hybrid cliff]

money money money moneyy

[final stag]

something that ive noticed about recent developer changes is that they decentivized passion projects and incentivized for-profit games, you won't see small gems much anymore simply because they don't bring in the revenue/audience

[hybrid cliff]

[uneven helm]

And I strongly agree of having to verify to publish games to at least -18

[south knot]

Well, no. It only incentivizes more 18+ games

[opaque dew]

for USA 18+ and r15 only

[hybrid cliff]

is it only for US people

[south knot]

Aren't most of them hangouts?

[hybrid cliff]

us devs

or like wut

[south knot]

North America only

Canadians too i guess

[hybrid cliff]

ummmmmmmmm

what the hellyonte

[uneven helm]

No, US players

[hybrid cliff]

oh

gotcha

[dusty owl]

18-32? why not just 18+?

[final stag]

wdym? like i have to be 18 to publish?

[cloud sundial]

No to Devex for more I think

[south knot]

Oh they say it's 18-32?

[hybrid cliff]

i need to buy north us citizens data to spy on what they like

[lavish anchor]

i guess

[rotund girder]

younger audiences are big numbers
evening out the older and younger audiences revenue leads to the developers needing to maintain both

[hushed spear]

so uhmmmm, w or l update?

[uneven helm]

Yes

[cloud sundial]

L

[hushed spear]

what

[final stag]

that sucks

[opaque dew]

you're too old you can't play with legos anymore cuz they are for ages 3-60

[frank robin]

[REMOVED]

[cloud sundial]

Since u have to pay to publish to all ages

[opaque dew]

yeah

[dusty owl]

in first sentence

[lavish anchor]

complicated

[south knot]

Legos are 3-99 though right?

[hybrid cliff]

oh no we need to put in extra effort ahh

[south knot]

I don't think that's the issue

[opaque dew]

i just turned 100 and i already feel sad about it

[uneven helm]

And fair, I don’t want weirdos to publish games with no way to track them

[frank robin]

[REMOVED]

[opaque dew]

do you expect reasoning from roblox?

[frank robin]

[REMOVED]

[south knot]

More of an L

[hybrid cliff]

is it true they are removing goyslop from the front page / or charts

[south knot]

No idea

[frank robin]

[REMOVED]

[opaque dew]

the same roblox that said they cant place decals to another decals or else they game would break?

[final stag]

roblox wants to move away from r6, like you'll notice any and every new feature avatar-related excludes it. i think it's just a modernization thing

[south knot]

I heard their algorithm is supposedly gettimg better though I.e less brainrot games in the frontpage

[uneven helm]

Hopefully

Real talent should have more opportunities

[frank robin]

[REMOVED]

[final stag]

like insert some corporate slogan like "Roblox is the future" and visual of a-

[frank robin]

[REMOVED]

[final stag]

yes that

you were thinking the same thing :soib:

[lavish anchor]

oh no let's invalidate those creators who want to use r6 for the sake of argument

[hybrid cliff]

well... no

[opaque dew]

• of an official white star makeup making some strange white spots on a avatar face because their system coded with AI doesn't work.

[hybrid cliff]

dont put words in my mouth

[final stag]

lmao nice

[hybrid cliff]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1413951349737132134/1491881552747958393/alien_cat_goof.gif

[south knot]

Vaguely related but CharacterMeshes not having support for reflectance genuinely almost made me kill someone

Even SpecialMeshes do that man 💔

[final stag]

idk if this was already mentioned in #📢︱roblox-news but take a look at this

[mystic jolt]

R15????

[final stag]

basically meaning if your device is bad gameplay becomes worse

[south knot]

Yes, and its a North America exclusive

[lavish anchor]

sorry i laughed, I was having the same issue last night TwT

[mystic jolt]

Okay just America

[south knot]

It's okay at least we share the pain 🫂

[mystic jolt]

I don't live there

[dusty vine]

the r15 thing is weird but this will hopefully make developers make less slop

[opaque dew]

US*

[final stag]

wait.

the profit bonus is US-only???

straight L update

[south knot]

Not even Canadians?? 💔

[lavish anchor]

yesh

Only US creators

[tight ice]

They’re an American company, it makes some sense

[final stag]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-hiromi-higuruma-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jjk-memes-gif-10370496866020481076

[south knot]

Yeah i can sort of understand it being an USA exclusive

[tight ice]

I’m more worried about the R15 requirement because they’re really trying to strangle R6 out of existence

[south knot]

The r15 obligatory thing is just bollocks though

[final stag]

yeah i agree

[dusty vine]

it literally says why its done in the US bro 😭 its bc the us adult market is growing

[opaque dew]

what i've been saying

[tight ice]

Yeah exactly

[opaque dew]

guys i just thought of something

[lavish anchor]

Yup

Imma call it

[south knot]

Adult market as in more adults playing games?

[dusty vine]

enable r15 but then load their character in r6

[south knot]

Makes sense i suppose

[dusty vine]

"Why We’re Doing This The 18 to 34 user cohort on Roblox is growing over 50% year-over-year in the U.S.—and monetizes 50% higher than the under 18 cohort. We’re rewarding creators who build the genres, gameplay mechanics, and visual styles that appeal to this audience by increasing the DevEx rate by 42% for spend from age-checked 18 and old..."

[final stag]

real quick question if a game is already published before may 19th does it re-check for the new criteria

[lavish anchor]

r6 would soon be unfeasible to use bc they want to push more realistic models 💔

[opaque dew]

imagine roblox suing some game on steam after they removed R6 and that game has a 1 to 1 R6 character like, they have the audacity to sue that game after removing R6 cuz it looks like roblox, that would be crazy roblox would never do that.

[feral sapphire]

An obvious attempt to phase out r6 by encouraging use of R15

[south knot]

I think the bigger issue is that it would be too expensive for them to make it global

But thats probably an reason too

[lavish anchor]

good question

[final stag]

aside from feeling more "retro" i do like it a lot more for obbies where you can tell where your character's parts are actually calculated at whereas jump animations might show them differently

[opaque dew]

we need more people saying that

[south knot]

Don't think so

[dusty vine]

they basically said that it wouldnt monetize well globally. thats why its us exclusive

[opaque dew]

it's like they farted but then gave everyone a napkin like wth???

[south knot]

The reason no one mentions it is because we all already know i believe.

[final stag]

wait so should i just publish 50 baseplates and store them away for publishing games lmao

[opaque dew]

i hope so

[feral sapphire]

is a better reaction

[south knot]

I was thinking of doing that lul

[opaque dew]

😭

[feral sapphire]

It’s a pretty good thing but it’s also trying to force R15

[south knot]

Yeah

Agree

[opaque dew]

guys hop on baseplate #14 that game is fire it has the old baseplate on it 🔥

[lavish anchor]

the update were more like "age locked" than anything else. meaning as long as you don't have the new rb plus, you're game are age-locked.

they already updated their requirements if you fill up the questionnaires whenever you publish a game

[south knot]

I know this update is more good than bad, but even the whole part of it being an incentive for more 18+ games makes me believe they don't want to be a mainly kids platform anymore

[dusty vine]

rare mid update compared to the recent trash

[final stag]

yeah i agree
i get that they need to actually turn profit. roblox has been losing money for ages, so it makes sense that they would require a roblox plus subscription, i can totally understand that
but stuff like forced dynamic heads and distance from r6 is just.. corporateslop?

[south knot]

Like actual Roblox is gonna soon be 16+

[lavish anchor]

agreed.

[full spear]

What did the r6 even do?

[south knot]

Honestly if you look at the DevForum they have been making alot of good experiments

[dusty vine]

i stopped developing on roblox when they made it require ID verification to use meshes. MESHES???

[raw crystal]

I'm cryngh

[south knot]

I saw that they were gonna revamp the animation system or somethin

Or like make an improved version

[lavish anchor]

wait what

really??

[opaque dew]

it got made thats their problem with it

[dusty vine]

i mean editable meshes but yeah

[lavish anchor]

no wonder I'm not having any issues with it

[opaque dew]

i went to godot where are you coding on?

[dusty vine]

every other game engine in existence has way better mesh systems for free, and then roblox locked their trash one behind id verification

[south knot]

EditableMeshes are REALLY powerful, i can understand why they put an limiter on it back then

[feral sapphire]

At least there’s the algorithm update that’s filtering out games that try profiting off retroslop and fast dying trendy memes

[lavish anchor]

i instinctively provided my gov id 2 years ago just to access the voice chat

turns out, it was a bad idea :/

[dusty vine]

nah they used to have no limit. now you cant even test them in studio without ID

[south knot]

Weren't they easily exploitable to bring up condo games almost instantly

[dusty vine]

I dont really code too often anymore but when I do its more just general stuff

[final stag]

the ID/selfie verification stuff is absolutely ridiculous, but at the same time, there isn't really a much better way of confirming what the user's age is

[dusty vine]

like linux UI and whatnot

[south knot]

I recall the reason they restricted it had to do something with that

Memory is fuzzy, though

[final stag]

if you can choose it yourself then everyone would just lie and do 18+

[dusty vine]

yeah but that doesnt justify making it so that developers cant test them in studio without id

[south knot]

Teamcreate condos are a thing 😭

[feral sapphire]

The Face ID thing is a worse though, the system they were using was collecting the selfies

[dusty vine]

well good thing teamcreate (i think) was getting basically removed unless u have id anyway

[south knot]

Persona, i heard

[feral sapphire]

The ai age check specifically

[south knot]

They have a surveilance system ties to the government

With an concerning amount of information on you

[opaque dew]

they said they would never make an offline version of studio because their services require constant access to the cloud to load assets so i see why they made it so that devs can't test on studio since studio requires a mesh or something to be published somewhere and they are too lazy to make a middleman or a local mesh loading feature

[dusty vine]

in a solo studio instance, there should be no reason that developers cant use editablemeshes for the sake of creating code

[final stag]

hard to say how much clarity there actually is with the verification stuff

[south knot]

OK that sounds reasonable enough, they could probably do that

[final stag]

for all we know roblox could have MILLIONS of records of what people look like and their credit card information

do they actually store it? who knows!

[dusty vine]

i really just wanted to make my own mesh library for voxels for fun, but that came crashing down when the editablemesh wouldnt instantiate bc some stupid rule

[south knot]

Oh no, it's very clear that Persona was pulling off a surveilance system thing ala 1984 because their confidential server info got leaked or something

Lol

[final stag]

damn

[lost jolt]

So minors get payed less

i thought david loved them

[final stag]

LOL

[lost jolt]

sucks since im a minor

[south knot]

There won't be a decrease in DevEX for non 18+ users so ehh not sure if you can call it that

[lost jolt]

why not increase for everyone

[south knot]

Because they're a corporation

Profits first

Everything else last place

[dusty vine]

its just paying more for robux spent by adults, not paying adults more

[uneven helm]

You earn more from 18+ players, not 18+ players earning more

[lost jolt]

shit i read this wrong

i thought they were increasing devex for adults

:sob

[uneven helm]

No that would be awful and totally unfair lol

[lost jolt]

lol

I just gotta motivate myself to make games now ngl

keeps coming in cycles where i quit development

[south knot]

Oh!

I misread that

[lost jolt]

im prob worse then I was 6 months ago

[south knot]

;v;

[lost jolt]

Yeah its a good thing. More money for us

[uneven helm]

Yeah, I get some complains about r15 but this directly boosts my earnings a lot, so I can’t complain, 85% of my players are from USA

[lost jolt]

This summer will be huge for Roblox. It shows whether the games actually dying or just lost players cuz of school

Last summer i really thought roblox was in its prime

it was

for game devs

but id be suprised if roblox lasts 15 more years

sucks because I really wanted to have roblox as a side hustle / career

[worldly shadow]

Hey im dumb soo is this a good thing

[lost jolt]

yeah

[worldly shadow]

I think im being very stupid

Clearly is good

[worldly shadow]

Thanks

[lost jolt]

18+ players will generate you more money

[worldly shadow]

Peak

[south knot]

That's optimistic as hell 😭

Even i who wants to have it as a side hustle currently could not see it living for more than 3 years

At their current rhythm

[lost jolt]

It wont die that soon?

you cant go from 10 games with over 100k players to dead

[south knot]

They have done ALOT of damage in a little under a year

Wouldn't be impossible

[lost jolt]

but this summer dictates if its true if roblox is dying

or if its a school thing

because roblox boomed last summer

Like it or not brainrot and low effort slop games made roblox much bigger and more profitable

i see no reason to hate them

[tardy estuary]

i really dont think roblox is dying, they are facing a lot of lawsuits (i think thats why the stock looks how it looks) and i think they are trying to make up for it. not to mention player rate goes up on breaks

its also such a big platform, its going to be really ahrd to kill it

[south knot]

If they're dying, this is ths start only

I do agree with that

It won't be SOON soon, but i can't see it living more than 5 years in their current pace of ruining their platform

[tropic saddle]

Why did stock drop 20%

[winter pewter]

ur mom sat on it

[spiral granite]

I was happy till i read US only

[crystal knot]

exactly

[topaz wasp]

the country gatekeeping is crazy

[forest gyro]

Why they gatekeeping bruh

[vale orbit]

Ohh shit my ball's itch

[gray pecan]

Same bro

[keen panther]

ts fire

[hasty lynx]

why only the us

[novel cobalt]

roblox'll still take well over 80% of total earnings after devex

[slate scaffold]

I hate R15 so much bro

[spark mural]

its not R15. its a sole fact that it MUST be enabled

r15 by itself isnt bad. but a lot of games rely on r6

[umbral badge]

So is this good or bad news

[tough python]

If they would actually be in risk of disappearance, they would just lock in and fix what they are asked for

[jaunty heart]

son

this actually sucks

r15? seriously?

theres a lot of horror games not like asym etc. that will support only r6

cuz be fr r15 sucks in animations etc

and plus

they just removed so you dont get any amount of robux every month if you own the cash

so you need to pay extra 5 if you want js to get 500

or more

[limpid surge]

nah

R15 sucks

[jaunty heart]

fr

[wide sinew]

So weird—why not R6 avatars?

[wide sinew]

Why? They’re the biggest spenders on the platform by a wide margin.

[spiral granite]

True but they should treat every country the same because all developers around the globe should receive the same treatment

[wide sinew]

But who said that? You can’t complain about a gift from someone, right? This is the same.

[spiral granite]

wtf is that reference?

anyways i dont wanna start arguments

Keep your opinions to yourself!

[wide sinew]

What I was trying to say was, they didn’t have to introduce this update but they did for whatever reason.

[wide sinew]

And let’s be respectful to each other, please.

[dense cave]

💩

[fair fossil]

"must have r15 avatars enabled" is crazy

[near pivot]

say that you want to get rid of r6 without saying you want to get rid of r6

[spiral finch]

should use r15 or SHOULD use r15 also games could prolly get around this really easily by just making their game r15 then when they get approved they switch back to r6

[sharp copper]

not bad.

[atomic thorn]

did anybody say gambling

[trail vigil]

That be a big cool chest

[trail vigil]

💀

I
Mean it’s an alrithy update

[dense hornet]

Just for r15

[obsidian ravine]

let's hope s&box wont suck in future updates

[real pagoda]

Yeah

[agile nova]

Once r6 is gone, the game will die and burn away.

[tropic saddle]

The issue is roblox already barely gave any devex so 50% sounds a lot mroe than it actually is

[wispy dune]

was hype then I read that it’s only for r15 games

[ebon kestrel]

as if us age checked 18+ isnt specific enough, it gotta be r15 too

[stable tinsel]

What in the lowball ahh is this 😭
Just directly say you want r6 wiped off the map man

At this rate by September you'll need to pay 1k rbx every month to touch r6 😭
(They unfortunately said they won't delete r6 but they wanna and don't feel like retracting the statement)

[wispy dune]

only reason they don’t delete r6 is cuz it would break every good game on the platform lol

[stable tinsel]

yeah i know ngl if investors want it they might do it

[tidal marlin]

lol developers can just have r15 enabled but have a script that sets players to r6 upon joining, easy

[stable tinsel]

pretty sure game will prioritze spawning the r15 over startercharacter or r6

also the onlyoptionfor that would be players choice

[empty lava]

they killed brainrot and are pushing mature games, this is epic

[slate smelt]

Its kinda weird, idk how i can say. If lobby place uses r15 and gameplay uses r6. what will they consider then?

assuming a game brainrot arena, Lobby 0/4 0/3 thingy player use r15. When enter gameplay it uses r6. What will roblox consider?

[topaz wasp]

both

[real pagoda]

I guess I'll just add r6 as a player choice

[sour hemlock]

My game is the same situation

I'm not sure

I assume anything bought through the lobby will count but not through the gameplay in a different place

[quartz plaza]

bro what

[weary adder]

Damage control

[old tartan]

For every two people that think the platform is dying, 3 new users arrive, who do not care about "Roblox tradition." From a development standpoint, Roblox is only growing more appealing. Future developers and investors do not care about the past, they only care about how practical Roblox is from a business platform perspective. And especially in the last 5 years, it has only grown

Roblox is expanding, and is willing to sacrifice parts of their original crowd in the hopes the next wave of new users will propel them further, which so far, is the case

[civic plover]

this is quite good yo

[rain violet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-godzilla-eACbwD6ohNbFLnrcxT

[stable tinsel]

Holy shit Orwell was fkin right
We might be cooked

[trail vigil]

Yep 100% true

I agree to that

[lean dune]

Wait what if you made a script that turned players into the r6 body type on join

Theoretically this would bypass it

[trail vigil]

Smart boy right here

But idk if that is possible probaly

And idk if Roblox checks you’re game like really

[ember wraith]

"mr krabs, why are you giving less to minors but more to adults?"

money

[trail vigil]

[finite thunder]

really just convert the r15 to r6 with a script in the game and still get revenue

[rain violet]

Adaptive r6

[trail vigil]

Maybie the best way

Mine also uses r6

[ashen kite]

R15 is a good avatar type just that r6 is much easier to use

[amber bluff]

time to spam 18+ games

[sterile torrent]

w call

[empty lava]

hating r15 is animators progabanda

[trail vigil]

I don’t think r16 looks a lot bedder it’s the same so r6 wins because it’s easier

[feral sapphire]

R6 is easier to use, and looks better depending on game style

R15 can appear too dynamic for certain genres

[vivid solar]

I just woke up