💡 remove the ability for people without skillroles to post in for hire

[teal sedge]

Please discuss this idea civilly, don't forget to vote on this idea in #📝︱server-suggestions!

[slender pasture]

#👷︱skilled-for-hire

[balmy burrow]

the for hire channel says only people with skillroles though so thats conflicting plus a lot of scams are from people who post there w. out skillroles

[nocturne kernel]

@slender pasture don’t be lazy just do it. Don’t you see, people agree with it

[tame oyster]

Fr, generally people can fall in AI works from people that dont have done ranking process

[slender pasture]

dont command me im not ur dog

its a HUGE change that im not gonna do just cuz u told me to

it may be put into staff polls and then we may consider

[balmy burrow]

bro the rest of the server didnt do shit

just change the permissions takes 2 minutes

[nocturne kernel]

Yeah that

[nocturne kernel]

😭 I didn’t mean to dude calm down

[slender pasture]

and then we'll get 100s of tickets about why people cant post in the marketplace and they wont be happy

and thousands will leave cuz they only use the marketplace

and we just launched one change to the marketplace, launching another right after is outright stupid

i never said its difficult to do permission wise

but you dont see the consequences of doing it at all

youre forgetting that this change will affect 120000 people, and you think thats fine because 14 of you voted for it

you need to realize that none of yalls opinions have the value of 10000 people each

[balmy burrow]

crazy bro that if they are posting in the marketplace they cant apply for a skillrole

90% of the people who post there are bots and won’t complain

plus tons of people get scammed daily. so what it comes down to is if you care more about members or the safety of them

additionally for some skillranks, the distance of rank 1 to rank 2 is disproportionate, with getting rank 1 taking weeks, rank 2 takes months-years. its not fair for people without a skillrank to post there because then rank 1 is essentially useless

[balmy burrow]

it is also safe to assume that most are bots bc none voted no on this suggestion. if you can’t get rank 1 on your skill, you shouldn’t do commissions, period. it doesn’t matter about complaints or member counts, but down to how many scams occur from this issue

[slender pasture]

or maybe they dont want to?

it takes weeks to do nowadays

[slender pasture]

no i dont think so lol

probably under 1% are

just cuz ppl copy paste the same things doesnt mean theyre bots

im sure you know how "easy" it is to make a self bot

[slender pasture]

and you think skill roles will magically fix this yeah?

[slender pasture]

OR most people only use the marketplace and not the server suggestions channel that only 20 of you read

your "safe to assume" assumption is horrible

[balmy burrow]

hm

well im just saying that most scams stem from the for hire channel

[slender pasture]

im not saying there arent bots in this server, im sure there are thousands of them, but im also sure that those bots didnt know about the lvl 5 requirement and never posted

thats the tens of thousands of dead accounts here (and in every other big server)

[slender pasture]

what data did you use to reach this conclusion

[balmy burrow]

which channel allows people who just need to phone number verify easily offer a risky service. for hire is based on trust since you normally have to pay 50% upfront

users there can just put work that was taken by other users and send them there without any past checks

users who actually earned a skill rank should only get access to the channel, just like the channel topic says

thats my take tbh, you have valid points aswell

[slender pasture]

users can also put work that was taken by other users in a ranking ticket

and ranking is already slow as fuck

[balmy burrow]

thats a fair point

but ranking experts can help to determine that, with it then falling on them to find that

just leaving the most important channel for everyone who has a phone number attached is vulnerable