💡 Give refrence in scripting guidelines because its hard to know what exactly needed for role lik...

[fringe gull]

Please discuss this idea civilly, don't forget to vote on this idea in #📝︱server-suggestions!

[olive smelt]

skid

[hallow ore]

I would agree that their guidelines is very vague and doesn't really explain what each role requirements are. A ranker told me they might be reworking the scripters guidelines but idk if they still are

For s1 it's just having a good understanding over the basics. This includes luau's syntax, some Roblox API, and a good understanding over basic design principles and naming conventions

[fallen trout]

s2? @hallow ore

and do u have any code that you would consider low s2

[hallow ore]

It differs from script to script

But a solid foundation of (lua) oop, (simple to complex) data structures, high foundation of Roblox API (datastore, tweenservice, etc.) and being robust at modularity and scalability. All code must be game ready and heavily commented

The term "Game ready" for code is defined as being optimized and must be used within a game mechanic or game system

So if you make something that is outside the bounds of a game system, it wouldn't be considered by the rankers

[fallen trout]

Yeah see now

Rankers dont accept that for s2

they take Heavily Complex constructs of code that are 350 lines+ and are merely used in a game

As long as it has Typechecking and 250+ lines, its s2

[hallow ore]

huh?

[hallow ore]

I mean they are changing the entire system so idk

I had to send this incomplete editable images framework to get s2 lowkey so idk

[fallen trout]

send the one that is the lowest s2 there

[hallow ore]

Idk cuz this was the thing that got me s2

The other stuff I sent got discarded because they were too simple

I prob would've gotten s3 if it was complete

[slow quarry]

:0 wut does the script do?

is it that hard to get s2

damn

[hallow ore]

Idk

[slow quarry]

bruh\

e

[fallen trout]

Many s1's have s2 knowledge but dont have code thats 650 lines

[slow quarry]

damn 650 lines 💀

[fallen trout]

not really

but a good example is this

Pretty low s1 code

but can become s2 in a snap

the biggest difference is how a s1 handles it and an s2

if this used better methods other than while true and had more functionality it could go up to low s2

But for now its low s1

because it doesnt have the features of s2

nor the best practices

[hallow ore]

Honestly you'd have to change almost all of this to make this low s2

[slow quarry]

looks like s2 but is still s1 sadly

[fallen trout]

yup

I changed the whole while true logic

to step functions

and making use of dt / deltatime

[fallen trout]

Probably try to find a more optimized way. But i cant seem to think of another method apart from lerping or Pathfinding. Since I'm planning to use this for a background typa thing, like boids, but i wont actualy compute it to become a boid since planes fly over 0.5Km apart from eachother

[fallen trout]

Haha, yeah, math in most code makes it look s2

But its not really more than Mid s1

[fallen trout]

Now its mid s1

changed somethings

[hallow ore]

That script is just too simple for s2 😭

[fallen trout]

The script itself is too simple

the actual Idea can be s2

Right now its like low - mid s1

[hallow ore]

This still wouldn't change much

[slow quarry]

idk i sumbitted literal shi for s1

like data store basics

and really basic stuff

and i got s1

[slow quarry]

s3 will be like scripting minecraft in roblox studio at the point 😭

[fallen trout]

S3 Is unobtainable

Like.. no joke

S4 is easier

S3 is like, selling your soul ahh

[fallen trout]

could you show me what you would consider s2 / low s2/ wat u submitted for s2

[hallow ore]

This is what I submitted

[fallen trout]

show code, like the one you think Is definitely S2 but not an accurate representation of your current skillset

[hallow ore]

In a little bit

[fallen trout]

Tysm

[hallow ore]

dawg ur being weird

[fallen trout]

My bad @hallow ore

Now send

[hallow ore]

This was the ToolControllerClass

--// Services \\--

--// Modules \\--
local ToolSettingsManager = require(script:WaitForChild("ToolSettingsManager"))

--// Misc \\--
local ComponentsFolder = script.Components

--// Private Dependencies \\--
local Tools = {"Brush", "Erase", "Fill", "EyeDrop", "Lasso", "Select"}

local ToolClass = {}
ToolClass.__index = ToolClass

type Tool = "Brush" | "Erase" | "Fill" | "EyeDrop"

--// Private Functions \\--

--// Public Functions \\--

function ToolClass.new(CanvasController)
    local self = setmetatable({}, ToolClass)
    self._CanvasController = CanvasController
    self._ActiveTool = "Brush" :: Tool
    
    self._ToolIndex = 1
    self._CursorSize = 10
    
    self._CurrentTransparency = 0
    
    self._Components = {}
    
    self:_Init()
    return self
end

function ToolClass:_Init()
    --Creates tool components
    for _, Component in ComponentsFolder:GetChildren() do
        if not Component:IsA("ModuleScript") then continue end
        self._Components[Component.Name] = require(Component).new(self, self._CanvasController)
    end
    
    --Creates appropriate tool settings ui
    
    --TODO
    warn("[TOOL CONTROLLER CLASS] SETTING CREATION CURRENTLY GET'S UI ELEMENTS UNSAFELY AND UNMODULAR. PLEASE FIX THIS")
    
    for _, Component in self._Components do
        if not Component["GetSettings"] then continue end
        local ComponentSettings = Component:GetSettings()
        
        for _, Setting in ComponentSettings do
            if not Setting["SettingType"] then continue end
            local SettingsContainer = Instance.new("Folder")
            SettingsContainer.Name = Component.Type
            SettingsContainer.Parent = script.Parent.Ui.CanvasGui.ElementsCache.ToolSettings
            
            ToolSettingsManager:CreateToolSetting(Setting, Component.Type, nil, SettingsContainer)
        end
    end
end

--Sets the tool from an array of tools
function ToolClass:SetToolFromIndex(Index: number)
    if self._ToolIndex == Index then return end
    if not Tools[Index] then return end
    
    self._ToolIndex = Index
    self._ActiveTool = Tools[Index]
end

--Gets the next tool from the tool-list.
--Returns the tool and the index
function ToolClass:GetNextTool(): (string, number)
    local Index = self._ToolIndex + 1
    if Index >= #Tools then
        Index = 1
    end
    
    return Tools[Index], Index
end

function ToolClass:GetPreviousTool(): (string, number)
    local Index = self._ToolIndex - 1
    if Index < 1 then
        Index = #Tools
    end
    
    return Tools[Index], Index
end

function ToolClass:GetTool(): (string, number)
    return self._ActiveTool, self._ToolIndex
end

function ToolClass:GetAllTools(): {string}
    return Tools
end

function ToolClass:ActivateTool<data>(...: data?): data?
    if not self._Components[`{self:GetTool()}Tool`] then return end
    
    return self._Components[`{self:GetTool()}Tool`]:Invoke(...)
end

function ToolClass:GetComponent(ToolName: Tool): any?
    return self._Components[`{ToolName}Tool`]
end

function ToolClass:_GetAllComponents()
    return self._Components
end

function ToolClass:Update(Data)
    for _, Component in self:_GetAllComponents() do
        if not Component["Update"] then continue end
        Component:Update(Data)
    end
end

return ToolClass

This entire system was unfinished and early stages

[fallen trout]

ts is s2?

wtf'

this is literally just oop

Init() and new() are the only understandable ones

if thats s2 then me adding oop to my Ai plane is s2

but no hate

[hallow ore]

I mean this is just one script

The entire system runs off of components and other useful stuff

[fallen trout]

fair

but u do gotta admit

[hallow ore]

admit what?

I showed you a single script within the entire system?

Yours wasn't even "ai"

[slow quarry]

how is S4 easier if S3 is selling your soul 😭

[hallow ore]

He doesn't know how ranks work

s4 is harder to earn than s3 😭

[slow quarry]

if thats like one component...

props to you for getting s2

[hallow ore]

That manages components

[slow quarry]

xd

[slow quarry]

yeah if s3 is un obtainable s4 is outta the ranking tickets smh

[hallow ore]

It's not unobtainable

[slow quarry]

i mean if s2 is 650 lines

s3 like a idk like a full game script probably

like if s2 is only for making systems

then s3 would require to make a game

sm what

[fallen trout]

Nope

S3 Is just being good at physics and math

this is s3 code

https://github.com/omrezkeypie/BezierPath/blob/main/src/init.luau

from Omrezkeypie

[hallow ore]

bezier curves are NOT s3 😭

[hallow ore]

And they changed it so pure algorithmic code and mathematics no longer are acounted for if it doesn't relate to game design/development

[fallen trout]

s2?

But the code is s3

[hallow ore]

That is not s3

[fallen trout]

what is it

[hallow ore]

s2

[fallen trout]

sure buddy

if thats s2 then the gap between s2 and s3 is nothing, while the gap between s1 and s2 is extremely high

[slow quarry]

if i learn this can i get s3 u mean?

is this s2 or s3

i get the fact this single thing cant get me s2 or whatever you think it is but atleast like 1/5 concepts would be done :DDDD

[slow quarry]

s1 is print("hello world") mean while s2 is some complex maths smthin modules and stuff which is hard its true s1 and s2 have a diff but s2 and s3 gap is nothing compared to s1 to s2

s3 is mastering LUA in everyway i spose

[fallen trout]

The problem is

S2's like to make something they have achieved much harder than it really is

They have that pride in them

Not necessarily rude people

[fallen trout]

Like I'm sure 65% of s2's in this server cant do that

Out of their own code, not copying

local PlaneHandler = {}

local runservice = game:GetService("RunService")

local BP1, BP2, BP3 = game.Workspace:WaitForChild("BP1"), game.Workspace:WaitForChild("BP2"), game.Workspace:WaitForChild("BP3")
local functions = {}

function PlaneHandler.DetectBoundingBox(plane: UnionOperation)
    local exclusions = {BP1,BP2,BP3}
    local Params = OverlapParams.new()
    Params.FilterType = Enum.RaycastFilterType.Exclude
    Params.FilterDescendantsInstances = exclusions
    
    local connection
    connection = runservice.Heartbeat:Connect(function()
        local BB_CFrame: CFrame = CFrame.new(-2669.7, 18.5, -6)
        local Size: Vector3 = Vector3.new(2047.8, 8, 2048) * 2
        
        local AABB = workspace:GetPartBoundsInBox(BB_CFrame, Size, Params)
        
        for _, Plane: UnionOperation in AABB do
            if Plane:IsA("UnionOperation") and Plane.Name == plane.Name then
                plane:SetAttribute("InBoundingBox", true)
            end
        end
        
        if not AABB then
            connection:Disconnect()
            return
        end
    end)
    
end

function PlaneHandler.Accelerate(plane: UnionOperation , Speed: number)
    local connection
    connection = runservice.Heartbeat:Connect(function()
        if math.abs(Speed) > -1 then
            local currentPos = plane.Position
            local incrementedX = currentPos.X + Speed

            plane.Position = Vector3.new(incrementedX, currentPos.Y, currentPos.Z)
            
            if plane:GetAttribute("InBoundingBox") == true then
                if Speed < 0 then
                    Speed = -0.8
                    task.wait(20)
                    Speed = -0.5
                end
                return
            end
        end
    end)
end

function PlaneHandler.TakeOff(plane: UnionOperation, incrementYvalue: number)
    task.wait(3)
    plane.CFrame = plane.CFrame * CFrame.Angles(0,0,-0.05)
    
    local connection
    
    connection = runservice.Heartbeat:Connect(function()
        local currentPos = plane.Position
        local IncrementedY = currentPos.Y + incrementYvalue
        
        plane.Position = Vector3.new(currentPos.X, IncrementedY, currentPos.Z)
        
        if plane:GetAttribute("InBoundingBox") == true then
            connection:Disconnect()
            return
        end
    end)
end


function PlaneHandler.Land(plane: UnionOperation, decrementYvalue: number)
    task.wait(20)
    plane.CFrame = plane.CFrame * CFrame.Angles(0,0,0.1)
    
    local connection
    
    connection = runservice.Heartbeat:Connect(function()
        
        local currentPos = plane.Position
        local DecrementedY = currentPos.Y - decrementYvalue

        plane.Position = Vector3.new(currentPos.X, DecrementedY, currentPos.Z)
        
        if plane:GetAttribute("InBoundingBox") == true then
            connection:Disconnect()
            return
        end
    end)
end

function PlaneHandler.Initialize(plane, Speed, decrementY, IncrementY)
    task.wait(5)
    task.spawn(function()
        PlaneHandler.Accelerate(plane, Speed)
        PlaneHandler.TakeOff(plane, IncrementY)
        PlaneHandler.Land(plane, decrementY)
        PlaneHandler.DetectBoundingBox(plane)
    end)
end

return PlaneHandler

@slow quarry I finished the core of it

just gotta add features now

[hallow ore]

The gap between all ranks are suppose to be high

I don't think you understand that

[fallen trout]

yeah but

[hallow ore]

I mean you'd get better at math and you'd prob go to s2

[fallen trout]

your kinda overrating s2

[hallow ore]

It's just a discord rank 😭

[hallow ore]

And I'm only telling you stuff a ranker told me

[hallow ore]

What is the point of this functions table?

[fallen trout]

I was gonna use it to try and task.spawn all the functions at once

but it didnt work

[hallow ore]

Is this client or server?

[fallen trout]

all server

[hallow ore]

What is the point of the :WaitForChild then?

[fallen trout]

Im not that experienced with the difference of using WaitForChild vs FindFirstChild

[hallow ore]

Stop hype focusing on ranks for now and just learn the syntax for luau

Or do

WaitForChild waits for something to exist, but is not needed like 98% of the time on the server

It's used primarily to get something that is still loading in on the client side

:FindFirstChild finds the first child of an instance with the given name

That is usually used to check if that object exists

Since it returns nil or the item

[fallen trout]

Ur right

but i just need those 2 arrows next to my name😭

[hallow ore]

s2 is the minimum for pro scripting

So obviously the bar will be raised higher for s1's

You must know ALL of the basics of luau and use them semi-efficiently with low amount of issues

s2 is having a high understanding over the api, math, and better code & system structures

[slow quarry]

epic so now you use other scripts and finish scripts :D.

[slow quarry]

all this for 2 arrows 😭

[fallen trout]

someone told me its pretty high s1

idk tho

[slow quarry]

nah what

it aint s1

its probably s2

like aint no way

[ashen wharf]

e

[fallen trout]

lmaoo

2 people have told me its low s2

but another 2 have told me its high s1

[slow quarry]

You cant really trust a person with no scripter role so people who told you HAD the role then they might be correct

[hallow ore]

it's s1 bro

I can re-read it and tell u again

But most likely it's s1

[fallen trout]

Alr chilllll

it was never that deep

[hallow ore]

?

I just asked if u want me to read it

idk how that is deep

[slow quarry]

epik

no figthing :DDDDDDD

[fallen trout]

yo could i see what u used to apply for s1

[slow quarry]

i dont have my code rn but i did simple data saving a code that saves your data leaderstats

and i dont have the rest really

but it was a gamepass thing i coded

and i gave it

about 3 works

[fallen trout]

could you show me any of your recent code

[slow quarry]

i dont have my code available rn but things i have learned recently inclue UIS, Welding, ProfileStore (not much), and some other not too advanced stuff

[fallen trout]

You dont have even 1 script you think is s1 worthy?

[slow quarry]

i am not able to log in to my account at the moment

or else i have all my code for beginners and advanced

but i dont think any of it is much more than high s1

[slow quarry]

woah

you got s1

W

[fallen trout]

I was alr s1 2 months ago

[slow quarry]

huh i just saw today

wtv nice

what sort of work did you sumbit for it?

[fallen trout]

2 months ago it was trash

But rn

This is what i submitted rn

Monologue System: https://pastebin.com/7MvsSj8J

Sprint System: https://pastebin.com/gm9T5Exg

Plane Mover thing: https://pastebin.com/hRG79WxQ

Unfinished CombatService: https://pastebin.com/EYxZeR48

@slow quarry

Also the reason all of these are S1 is because they have many edge cases, and dont cover memory leaks and etc.... Some places i use connection but never disconnect it, some places i dont use *= for Position and CFrame operations, which is a nitpick but still reduces

So In general its all Mid S1, lmk if you agree @hallow ore
||I have come to terms that its nowhere near s2||

[slow quarry]

honestly fix those and this is high s1

[slow quarry]

obviously but its nearly high s1

if you improve stuff ig

[slow quarry]

dam things you sumbitted are about high s1 my sumbissions were actual shi and low s1

[slow quarry]

epic code

you are doing good till now xd

[slow quarry]

lol i couldnt see your role so i though you didnt have

[fallen trout]

yh

[fallen trout]

show

[slow quarry]

alr bro dont make fun of me

i only found one

since they are old

`local test = game.Workspace.PremiumArea.HEHE
local bruh = 20

while bruh == 20 do
test.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Dark green")
task.wait(1)
test.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Dark blue")
task.wait(1)
test.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Really red")
task.wait(1)
test.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Hot pink")
task.wait(1)
test.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Dark Pink")
task.wait(1)
test.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Earth yellow")
task.wait(1)

local NoTest = game.Workspace.PremiumArea.hehe
local ruh = 10

while ruh == 10 do
    NoTest.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Dark green")
    task.wait(1)
    NoTest.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Dark blue")
    task.wait(1)
    NoTest.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Really red")
    task.wait(1)
    NoTest.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Hot pink")
    task.wait(1)
    NoTest.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Dark Pink")
    task.wait(1)
    NoTest.BrickColor = BrickColor.new("Earth yellow")
    task.wait(1)
    continue
end

end

`

idk wth is this

i dont even remember sumbitting this?

🥀

but this is an example of how shi i was back then

when i applied for s1

[fallen trout]

@lapis silo

Atp its like you have a personal vendetta against me

apparently this is s1☝🏼☝🏼

[slow quarry]

i dont rmember sumbitting

[topaz summit]

** You are now Level 9! **

[slow quarry]

this

but i found it in my beginners game

so mabye i did

idk

some dude named eyeball ranked me

[fallen trout]

Jake said that the stuff above is low s1

[slow quarry]

nice

[fallen trout]

Not you

Me

He said my code is low s1

[slow quarry]

oof

i think my ranker was sleepy

or smthin

[fallen trout]

Nope

Eyeball is fair

U are prolly s1

[slow quarry]

yeah but am rusty

[fallen trout]

But Jake is wrong for saying its Low s1

Maybe Mid

[slow quarry]

i am doing modelling more

so like i dont rmember much scripts

[slow quarry]

yeah you are probably mid s1

[fallen trout]

While true do
task.wait(1)
color = math.random(#colors)
end

[slow quarry]

epik

[lapis silo]

Saying a ranker is wrong just because you don't like his assessment?

Pretty low man.

But I have no problem with you.

As a ranker, I'm unbiased.

[fallen trout]

Alright good to know, but I was just trying to prove a point that its a bit higher than low s1. Because again, s1 is beginner. Oh and I know full-well that you are unbiased

[lapis silo]

Some of your code was low S1, some of it was mid-high S1.

The overall consistency was congruent with low S1 to mid S1.

[fallen trout]

CombatService - low s1
Plane Mover - Mid S1
Sprint - High s1 Attributes

• Monologue System- Mid s1

Ok yeah i guess its prolly there in the ballpark of mid s1

[hallow ore]

this is not even s1 😭

@fallen trout u pinged me on it and I just looked at it

By what I know of the rankings at this moment Jakes assessment is correct but I would rank the Plane Mover to low-mid s1, monologue to low-mid s1, and combat service to mid s1

Your naming schemes are very inconsistent and it seems you use RunService WAY more than you really need

You use camelCase for cframeand use PascelCase for Size and Overlaps

[fallen trout]

That is because when actually calling CFrame

[hallow ore]

You also abbreviate a lot which is bad practice

[fallen trout]

Could i see

[hallow ore]

You want to name your variables exactly what it's being used for

So people kjnow esxactly what everything is used for

[fallen trout]

Isnt that what i do

if not could i see a case where i dont

[fallen trout]

This got accepted

so thats why I'm wondering, if thats low s1, whats my code

[hallow ore]

That should not even be considered s1

[fallen trout]

true true

I get your point

[fallen trout]

Wait

lemme show u smth

[hallow ore]

From the last time I applied s1 should have a acceptable amount of knowledge with luau's syntax (loops, datatypes, functions, etc.)

If you had better examples you would be s2

You show a good understanding over the language and Roblox's API

But these are still in range with s1

[fallen trout]

Thank you

[hallow ore]

There are issues with your code examples and better optimizations that you can do but I feel like you already know that

[fallen trout]

s1 code btw

The video can def be low s1 but not the code he showed

[hallow ore]

Is this the code?

[fallen trout]

He said "Vouch S2?"

Man it makes me wonder

[hallow ore]

This is pretty bad code ngl

[fallen trout]

What I'm getting is that this cant be higher than low s1

[hallow ore]

BRO

This was in 2023 😭

[fallen trout]

oh damn

still

he said "vouch s2"

[hallow ore]

What are you even getting at 😭

[fallen trout]

that its kinda like there isnt a stable way of ranking

[hallow ore]

Because there isn't for scripting

They're reworking it rn

But currently they are looking for people who are proficient in Roblox API for s2

[fallen trout]

Seems good

Gotta keep grinding

after all, it wouldnt be fun if s2 was easy to get would it

[slow quarry]

ikr

[slow quarry]

its hard obviously

[ashen wharf]

how did you get s1 😭 🙏

[slow quarry]

trust the process it was something else i just found this in my beginners game

it was low s1

but better than this

[ashen wharf]

kk

lol

[slow quarry]

vote this suggestion ;D

[fallen trout]

Man I want to apply for s2

but it would be a waste of rankers time

[slow quarry]

why do u think that

you should have aimed for s2 direct s1 is waste of time tbh :((

aiming for s2 > s1

[fallen trout]

true

[slow quarry]

you have already made systems so s2 isnt that hard for you to get

jake said your sumbission was low s1 tho they look like mid s1

ehh rankers have their opinions ig

[fallen trout]

He looked at them again and said the 4 was Mid-high s1

Snicka gave me some really good advice tho

[slow quarry]

epik, he probably wasnt paying much attention cz like s1 isnt much of a thing for them ig

[slow quarry]

???

[fallen trout]

He/She said i have decent understanding of the API but i just need to practice more in roblox studio

The more i can make systems that show better understanding of API, the higher of a chance i have to get s2

[slow quarry]

if you showed good - mid understanding of API in s1 , s2 wouldnt be much challenging i suppose

[fallen trout]

I really still feel like with a bit of organisation and Comments, some of my code can definitely reach s2

[slow quarry]

yeah probably ig

[fallen trout]

@vernal plank rank

[vernal plank]

s1

high quality code but nothing complex enough for s2

but plenty of magic numbers in there

that's not good

[fallen trout]

wdym

magic numvers

[fallen trout]

ture ttruee

*true

[vernal plank]

a number that just doesn't explain anything

here's an example in pseudo code

[vernal plank]

if button is held then
    humanoid.WalkSpeed = 16
else
    humanoid.WalkSpeed = 8 
end

you don't want that

while its clear this is for sprinting, in other situations it may not be so obvious

instead you want variables to explain what the number is for

local walkSpeed = 8
local sprintSpeed = 16

if button is held then
  humanoid.WalkSpeed = sprintSpeed
else
  humanoid.WalkSpeed = walkSpeed
end

[fallen trout]

I seeee

U wanna know something

I didnt do that because i thought people were gonna say its GPT code even if i made it all myself

[vernal plank]

if someone is gonna accuse you of using GPT because you simply decided to avoid one of the most popular mistakes of programming then they're not fit to judge you

[fallen trout]

goot to know

also whats pseudocode

[vernal plank]

not actually functional code, just a more human way of formatting it

like if health is zero then kill player

[fallen trout]

ahh i see

[slow quarry]

bro on his arc to get s2

epik

[fallen trout]

yup

I have gotten positive contructive criticism so far

I have good code(with some design mistakes) but dont know enough of the API

[fallen trout]

@slow quarry my first code with OOP

local Names = {
    "Rover", "Jacob",
    "Liam", "Henry",
    "Joseph", "Max"
}

local Ages = {
    1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12
}

local breed = {"Labrador", "Poodle", "Rottweiler", "Cane Corso", "Tibetian Mastiff"}

local Specialities = {"Police Officer", "Vet", "EMT Medic", "Layer", "Actor"}

local randomName, RandomAge, RandomBreed = Names[math.random(#Names)], Ages[math.random(#Ages)], breed[math.random(#breed)]
local randomSpecialty = Specialities[math.random(#Specialities)]

local Dogs = {}
Dogs.__index = Dogs

--[[function Dogs:GetInfo()
    print(self.Name.." Is ".. self.Age.." Years Old, and is a ".. self.Breed)
end]]

function Dogs.new(Name, age, Breed)
    local dog = setmetatable({}, Dogs)
    dog.Name = Name
    dog.Breed = Breed
    dog.Age = age
    
    return dog
end

local SpecialDog = setmetatable(Dogs, { __index = Dogs})
SpecialDog.__index = SpecialDog

function SpecialDog:GetInfo()
    print(self.Name.." Is ".. self.Age.." Years Old, and is a ".. self.Breed..". His Speciality is: ".. self.Speciality)
end

function SpecialDog.new(Name, age, Breed, Speciality)
    local SpecialDog = setmetatable({}, Dogs)
    SpecialDog.Name = Name
    SpecialDog.Name = Name
    SpecialDog.Breed = Breed
    SpecialDog.Age = age
    SpecialDog.Speciality = Speciality

    return SpecialDog
end


local MyCustomDog = SpecialDog.new(randomName, RandomAge, RandomBreed, randomSpecialty)
MyCustomDog:GetInfo()

[fallen trout]

;compile

[slow quarry]

wish i couldnt understand but i still get a bit of it, its tables right?

oh wait

this code is a random pet hatching system i think

i still know a bit

ngl comments in code makes it look more professional XD

[fallen trout]

Bro oop is so interesting

the idea is so smart

but i dont see myself using it in big projects

[fallen trout]

@hallow ore @vernal plank New metatables stuff, can it pass as High s1
https://pastebin.com/7DRfHjXL

[vernal plank]

it can

but take my advice because i made that mistake

don't chase OOP and metatable shit unless you're really sure its the best possible approach for a particular scenario

60% of my codebase was OOP and i realized that remaking it in other paradigms would make it look and perform better

[fallen trout]

I see

[fallen trout]

Really i just thought that using them would make my code perform better and be 1000x more modular. Now that i have written a few scripts in it i realize that its not as preferrable compared to normal scripting

[hallow ore]

Apparently it was not enforced but I was told knowledge was needed to even be s1 for basic metatable and luau oop usages

[hallow ore]

It can be modular but it can sometimes perform lower than other approaches

[fallen trout]

Welp

Applied with 5 other scripts

Not that im against the rankers decision

but they said these werent even low s1

lemme send more

Its absolutely not s2

[vernal plank]

removing the guidelines made ranking a far more subjective matter

[fallen trout]

but you cant say its below low s1

[vernal plank]

makes me wonder if a lot of S2s including me would be able to get it back if it was removed from them again

[fallen trout]

For real man

Its just so annoying that i try so damn hard to make scripts and then apparently its Below s1

[vernal plank]

i must say

your scripts lack substance

they could do more

[fallen trout]

yup

wait

i updated the sprint i think

I plan on adding things like sliding, leaping, etc

Its not s2 in any way

but man its higher than low s1

Wasnt s1 being a beginner?

@faint cape Give me a sec lemme send them

[vernal plank]

it was when i applied

ig something changed now

lol

[faint cape]

ok

[fallen trout]

https://pastebin.com/EYxZeR48
https://pastebin.com/7DRfHjXL
https://pastebin.com/gm9T5Exg
https://pastebin.com/hRG79WxQ
@faint cape

[vernal plank]

there are many flaws

you index replicated storage

you are supposed to use get service

[faint cape]

ok its definetely s1 but I can see y its not s2

[vernal plank]

but you actually did at the top

[fallen trout]

definitely not s2

[fallen trout]

it has many errors yeah

I was using Vscode for first time

so all that autocomplete confused me

[vernal plank]

and the combat animations folder should also be at the top but instead you wait for it every time the function is ran

all of these could be placed at the top

[fallen trout]

I see

[vernal plank]

same with this too probably

[fallen trout]

General beginner mistakes tho

[vernal plank]

and this

you can place the actual highlight at the top

and clone it every time from its variable

[fallen trout]

Oh alright

[vernal plank]

quite a few magic numbers as well

[fallen trout]

?

[vernal plank]

magic numbers

numbers that don't mean anything

like this

wtf am i supposed to understand from (5.2, 5.287, 6.8)

pretty random

[vernal plank]

and when you revisit it later

you'd forget what those numbers are for even if they were actually very important

and possibly change them and break something

if you are collaborating with others they also might change them and break it

[faint cape]

what did u make for s2 mob

[vernal plank]

very repeated code

make one EnemyAnimations variable

[vernal plank]

custom movement

[faint cape]

do u have vid

[vernal plank]

a time and weather system that seamlessly transitions

overtime

[fallen trout]

what

[vernal plank]

and changes based on location

[fallen trout]

its a vector 3

[vernal plank]

a camera utilities system

and some anti cheat

[vernal plank]

what does it mean here

why those numbers in particular

[fallen trout]

Ohhhh

[vernal plank]

yea

[faint cape]

did u u state machine for them or something

[fallen trout]

Cuz its a certain size

[vernal plank]

no

i used state machine for movement

[faint cape]

pretty sure you can use state machien for weather systems cant you

oh

[vernal plank]

not in my case

because there is no specific state to speak of

[fallen trout]

tbh with how ranking is rn i dont see you getting s2 if you re-applied

[vernal plank]

weathers and daytimes are merged

so they're like

halfway night and halfway day

etc

[faint cape]

I hate working with cameras I just use someone else's camera util system

[faint cape]

anti-cheat is cool

[vernal plank]

maybe

maybe not

i think im quite capable of easily making a few s2 systems again

[faint cape]

they removed everyone's s2 and they had to get it back

so I think he can

[vernal plank]

i got it back through public ranking

[fallen trout]

Yeah see now thats good

[faint cape]

cuz ur mob mob

[fallen trout]

yk it was going pretty well when drastic was ranking me

he told me the flaws and everything and i got 4/7 points for s2

but in came pyro

[vernal plank]

pyro greenlit me for s3 once

[fallen trout]

what does that mean

[faint cape]

pyro is good people rankers just have different rankings

ur lucky u didnt get Jake

[vernal plank]

he said he thought i'd be able to get s3 if i tried

[fallen trout]

Jake is amazing bro

[vernal plank]

but i knew i wouldn't

not yet

[faint cape]

if I apply for s2 and I get jake im closing my ticket

i've done a lot

;)

[vernal plank]

do you think you're s2

[faint cape]

oh no no no

not even close

[vernal plank]

tf even makes an s2 nowadays

[faint cape]

idfk

not me tho

[vernal plank]

let alone an s3

[faint cape]

not me

[fallen trout]

lemme show you

[vernal plank]

all i remember about s3 is that they used techniques like object pooling and cells and octrees and shit

with big focus on security and performance

[vernal plank]

but all of these sound s2 to me

[vernal plank]

he'd be right

yeah

[fallen trout]

everything can be copied from a tut

[faint cape]

i have a octree and object pooling

[vernal plank]

not really

[fallen trout]

and i made everything myself damnit

[fallen trout]

name

Apart from libs and packages

[faint cape]

he meant what you did can be done by watching a tutorial too

not like u copying tutorials

[fallen trout]

Yeah ik

[vernal plank]

every game has its own problems that arise from having to communicate between multiple systems

and you wont find a solution for those

[faint cape]

its fine bro ive been rejected from s2 too

that was long ago

I sent some real ass code

[vernal plank]

you have to analyze it yourself

[faint cape]

probably 1/7

[vernal plank]

i sent some real ass code long ago

and i got s2 from it

back when it was easy

[faint cape]

except my octree and object pooling are lowkey ass

[vernal plank]

so im glad i got my rank taken away

[fallen trout]

Getting s3 this day and date

is insane

[faint cape]

which is good

it should be challenging

I like a little fun

;)

except im prob never gonna apply

[vernal plank]

i'd say s2 is prestigious enough

it has a very wide range

[vernal plank]

one s2 could be magnitudes better than another

[faint cape]

but thats in s1 too

low s1 and high s1

have a GIGANTIC difference

[fallen trout]

very true

letik and prism

[vernal plank]

it wasn't though

just a few months ago all s1s were kinda bad

[fallen trout]

tbh personally

after seeing letiks past works

[faint cape]

yea

[vernal plank]

fudufin as well is pretty good

[faint cape]

there are all these pro s2's too

[fallen trout]

i dont think hes s2

[fallen trout]

And him

[faint cape]

makes me feel like a s0

lmfao

[fallen trout]

Also doyt

and Kash

[faint cape]

y

[fallen trout]

Imo the worst s2 (still apparently better than me tho😅) is letik

[faint cape]

type ObjectPool = {
    __index: ObjectPool,
    _Generator: () -> Instance,
    _Managed: {[Instance]: boolean},
    _Pool: {Instance},

    Objects: number,
    Minimum: number,
    Maximum: number,

    New: (Generator: () -> Instance, Minimum: number, Maximum: number) -> ObjectPool,
    Generate: (self: ObjectPool) -> Instance,
    Borrow: (self: ObjectPool) -> (Instance, () -> ()),
    Release: (self: ObjectPool, Object: Instance) -> ()
}

local ObjectPool = {} :: ObjectPool
ObjectPool.__index = ObjectPool

function ObjectPool.New(Generator: () -> Instance, Minimum:number, Maximum:number):ObjectPool
    assert(Minimum and Maximum, "Please provide a minimum and a maximum value")
    assert(Minimum <= Maximum, "ObjectPool minimum cannot be greater than its maximum")

    local self = setmetatable({
        _Generator = Generator,
        _Managed = {},
        _Pool = {},

        Objects = 0,
        Minimum = Minimum,
        Maximum = Maximum,
    }, ObjectPool) :: ObjectPool

    for _ = 1, Minimum do
        self:Generate()
    end

    return self
end

function ObjectPool:Generate(): Instance
    assert(self.Objects < self.Maximum, "Attempt to generate new object for full ObjectPool")

    local Object = self._Generator()
    table.insert(self._Pool, Object)
    self._Managed[Object] = true
    self.Objects += 1

    return Object
end

function ObjectPool:Borrow(): (Instance, (self: ObjectPool) ->())
    if #self._Pool <= 0 then
        self:Generate()
    end
    local Object = table.remove(self._Pool, 1)::Instance

    return Object, function()
        self:Release(Object)
    end
end

function ObjectPool:Release(Object:BasePart): ()
    assert(self._Managed[Object], 
        "Attempt to return object to ObjectPool that does not manage it")
    Object.Position = Vector3.new(math.huge,0,0)

    table.insert(self._Pool, Object)
end

return ObjectPool

Some slop code cuz I have to embrass myself a little too

wont share my octree tho

its extra slop

[vernal plank]

looks OK

not much can be said about it i suppose

its clean and it probably works

[faint cape]

its a object pool you cant say much about object pool

[vernal plank]

true true

@fallen trout take a look at this for example

when i do this

do you understand anything

[faint cape]

yes

[fallen trout]

yes

[vernal plank]

ok

explain

[fallen trout]

you multipy pointA's position by a new vector(1,0,1)

which is 1 on x, 0 on y, 1 on z

[vernal plank]

no shit

why do i do that

[fallen trout]

no change the position

But i get your point

[faint cape]

to set the Y to 0?

[vernal plank]

why do i multiply y by 0

[fallen trout]

usually people wont know why you do it

[faint cape]

to remove the altitude

[fallen trout]

idk

[faint cape]

thingy

[vernal plank]

exactly

some would understand

some wouldn't

[faint cape]

I don't

[vernal plank]

and in other examples nobody would understand

this is a magic number

its a number but it doesn't explain anything

[faint cape]

oh

[vernal plank]

now if i do this

it becomes much more obvious

[fallen trout]

yh

[vernal plank]

i flatten the points so i could isolate them on a plane

by using a flatten vector

with no height

[faint cape]

thats what I saidd

[vernal plank]

yeah

you were right

[faint cape]

"remove the altitude thingy"

[vernal plank]

my point is

some wouldn't understand why

and thats not good

[faint cape]

DO IT

[vernal plank]

never made an octree myself lol

[faint cape]

oh

ima delete it then

cant show slop code

[vernal plank]

like i understand the concept but i never applied it to code to judge another person's octree

[faint cape]

hm

[vernal plank]

make your code decently modular for s2

use the best applicable approach when doing something

[faint cape]

its a complete module

[vernal plank]

so only use OOP when you need to

functional programming

DOD

etc

and each work particularly well for different cases

[faint cape]

my server script only loads the module and calls the module.Init if it exists everything else is module

[vernal plank]

so a loader approach

nice

i also do that

[faint cape]

idk y I used oop in octree tho

I felt like it

[vernal plank]

understanding when to do what is probably the best way to improve your skills

if you're gonna make your physics system for example (which i dont even know how to do lol)

you want maximum performance

a DOD approach would be just what you need for that

[faint cape]

idk what DOD is

[vernal plank]

data oriented design

look it up

[faint cape]

ill look into it

[faint cape]

do u have a module loader

[vernal plank]

learn the different programming paradigms

[vernal plank]

one on the client and one on the server

but they're nothing special

[faint cape]

my module loader is only like

function ModuleLoader:Load(Modules:{ModuleScript})
    if not IsServer() and not script:GetAttribute("ServerLoaded") then
        script:GetAttributeChangedSignal("ServerLoaded"):Wait()
    end
    
    for _, Module in Modules do
        require(Module)
        if Module.Init then
            Module.Init()
        end
    end
    
    if IsServer() then
        script:SetAttribute("ServerLoaded", true)
    end
end

onyl 1 function

and thats about it

it loads server firstt

then loads client

[vernal plank]

@faint cape watch this

https://youtu.be/WwkuAqObplU

amazing video on performance and optimization

[faint cape]

1 hour 😨😨😨😨

will watch tho

[vernal plank]

trust me its worth it

i can barely watch a 1 hour video too but i gladly watched this

[faint cape]

so many ads

[vernal plank]

use ad blocker

brave's adblocker survived the onslaught

[faint cape]

if the video is that good then id rather let the guy get ad revenue

[vernal plank]

when you can understand those concepts and talk about them to your rankers

make comments in your script explaining your approach

they'll know they're dealing with someone that deserves that rank

but obviously code speaks louder than words

[faint cape]

"they'll know what they're dealing with" 🐺

[vernal plank]

so actually apply those concepts to your code

[faint cape]

yea

well I can't watch it rn so ill probably do tmrw

i dont wanna watch the video on different days ill probably forget so ill watch all of it tmrw

[faint cape]

thanks a bunch btw

[vernal plank]

np

[fallen trout]

Lmao absolutely not

I had the knowledge to go to low s2 but was told even if i have s4 knowledge, if i provide an s1 script i am s1

[vernal plank]

^

[fallen trout]

ohh yeah

Ok so now i challenge myself to make 4 systems that are 7/7 in one month. I already have the first one planned

[faint cape]

you need to wait 2 weeks before applying again

[faint cape]

yea but it doesnt matter if you have s4 knowledge if u cant make a s4 script

[fallen trout]

one month

i said one month

[fallen trout]

true

[faint cape]

gl

[fallen trout]

thanks

[slow quarry]

why is this thread active 😭

now since ya all are here

upvote my suggestion ;D

[ashen wharf]

xD

5 days since last msg

[slow quarry]

yep

[slow quarry]

from 8/17/25 onwards everyone shutted themselves

[fallen trout]

fr

[queen abyss]

D

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