💡 ### Let's Make Ranks Easier to Understand - From 4 Levels to 3Right now, our ranking system i...

[empty geyser]

Please discuss this idea civilly, don't forget to vote on this idea in #📝︱server-suggestions!

[blazing reef]

@ocean meteor Sorry but i disagree

there needs to be a 4th rank, for the best of the best

[ocean meteor]

There is no one called "best of the best" No one is the best at anything, They're just experienced.

[blazing reef]

Nah there definitely is

It just means someone who is the most skilled out of everyone

[ocean meteor]

Nope, You can find someone better than someone else among S4

Rank 3 will be the new Rank 4

[blazing reef]

You need to consider other skill roles

Not just scripting

[ocean meteor]

Oh did i say S4?

I meant M4

All ranks

[blazing reef]

It isn’t like this for vfx, I know vfx isn’t as huge but we’ve only had one legitimate e4 for about a year

[ocean meteor]

RSC ranking is flawed, All because of the 4 ranks, And it takes lots of careful consideration to rank someone rank 4

[blazing reef]

Wait tell me how it’s flawed though ive never really seen any issue as a former vfx ranker and a rank department staff

[ocean meteor]

Even neon knows ranking is flawed, And most of people know its flawed

[blazing reef]

But how

[ocean meteor]

In the old days, There was only 3 ranks, So when rank 4 was made, Neon had to promote every rank to rank 4, Which means no one in ranking was ranked, But it was hand picked

Thats the first of many issues

[eternal hatch]

ill give my comment on this when im not busy but my current thought on this is no

[ocean meteor]

Sure

[eternal hatch]

1. this requires a full ranking overhaul, im not saying that change would be bad, but on this scale it's a little much and could get very confusing

2. theres too large of a skill disparity in 3 ranks, how does one jump from "you can have some mistakes/messy code" directly to "you've mastered luau scripting and all your code works perfectly with perfect implementation".

3. this doesn't help with judges being more fair when giving ranks, that is a whole separate issue that wouldn't be majorly affected by this

4. "everyone will know exactly what skills they need to improve" just isn't true. if anything, it's gonna be more difficult to outline exactly what people need to jump ranks due to the very large gap in between them.

[ocean meteor]

1. Dont worry about that, If people agree with it i get it done.

2. Those are examples, But the guideline will be more clear on what will you need to do to get that rank.

3. This makes judging easier, Because you wont be stuck on 4 ranks to decide, You check someone work and see if they are beginner, proficient or expert.

4. Again, there will be clear guideline about this for each ranking category.

[eternal hatch]

i think people will end up stuck primarily in rank 2 for way too long and not even want to get ranked, i also think its too wishful of thinking to say that there will be clear guidelines for each ranking category considering there arent even full guidelines for each dev category with our current system

overall my stance on it is

theres too little spacing in between ranks with this system, it could be easier to rank, but it's making the workload for people getting those ranks much harder. someone who is currently low-mid a2 for instance, could be dropped all the way down to mid a1 and wont even consider reapplying

[mossy idol]

I disagree

[tranquil skiff]

I agree

[grim hinge]

i disagree with this tbh

most people wont even have expert at all

only like in the 2 figures

[proper zephyr]

S3 is like a buffer zone

Because i can definitely tell the difference between s2, s3 amd s4

[fallow mountain]

yeah s2 is like a decent programmer

s3 is a good programmer who is comfortable with making anything and making the code clean in the process

s4 is an expert

theres a distinction

and im sure it works in a similar way for other ranks too

theres a line between good work and perfection

[ripe lynx]

i disagree

[mossy idol]

Neon is online for once

[ocean meteor]

🤫

[eternal hatch]

reacting with a thumbs up like he cant just do it 💔

[fallow mountain]

yeah if he says we have 3 ranks we have 3 ranks 😭

[ocean meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-bird-gif-16835999897918525830

[ripe lynx]

neon u better not do this

[mossy idol]

neon u better not do this shit

worse suggestion

ever existed

cant change the tradiztion

[quasi anchor]

why are people downvoting this

this is a good suggestion

having more divisions is what creates arguments and drama because it makes distinctions less clear

and at the end of the day, if this is an issue for scripting alone, then just make scripting ranks different

ranking is already somewhat decentralized between each role type

[proper zephyr]

If this happens

The server will die

The only server that does this

The superiority is part of the identity of this server

Erasing it means the DEATH of the server