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[oak peak]

All the content is verified to be correct and helpful.

[brittle needle]

"This is a simple line of code which involves one simple line of code"

writing could be better

I'll leave a little review in a bit

[brittle needle]

Overall, I would say this book is rated 3/10.
The content is structured in a way where it doesn’t make any sense to the reader.
You bring up topics that require the knowledge of the fundamentals, but you teach the fundamentals only later in the book.

This is your table of contents.
Why are you teaching about “if statements (brief???)” after functions, services and more.
The structure is just bad. It would be much better if you went over the fundamentals like variable naming , conditionals, functions, and so on first before even introducing roblox services.

How to Create your First Ever Code
Properties, Variables, Instances & Values
Maths in Scripting
Practice Exercise
Object Hierarchy
Functions
Events & Parameters
Practice Exercise
Services
Remote Events
If statements (brief)
Loops
Cloning
Camera Manipulation
Practice Exercise
CFrames, Positions & Co-ordinates
Tweening – Animating with scripts
Practice Exercise
Player Manipulation
Proximity Prompts
Gui Scripting
Practice Exercise
Game Passes & Developer Products
Enum Key Input

Then, throughout the book there were numerous spelling mistakes that were blatantly wrong. If you had read over this once, you would have most likely seen it, or by simply using a spell checking program.
There were also many incorrect statements about coding itself. Calling methods “commands” and much more.

The image quality of your examples are often vertically squished to the point where its hard to read certain areas. Not only that, but you intermix images with code. You often explain how to navigate to certain places in the workspace of Roblox Studio, but then you show images or screenshots of code. Why not show images of the studio space, and use code blocks for code?

For $10 USD, this book is very underwhelming and terrible. The free version of Programming in Lua is much better than this, and you can easily learn more from it. While it doesn’t teach roblox specifically, it does teach you basic Lua knowledge. There are plenty of free Lua Roblox books out on the internet as well, which you could have read through to take inspiration from.

In summary, not only is the information in this book partly wrong, but the writing and structure of the book is set up in a way where it's not even worth reading for a beginner, or intermediate scripter.

@oak peak

"All content is verified to be correct and helpful " is a blatant lie lol.
Didn't even spell check portions of this

[oak peak]

Even though I asked for a review from a beginner to verify the information.

And this was the result:

Thanks for providing negative feedback

[brittle needle]

you asked a beginner to verify information for beginners?
And only 1 person?

I gave you structured feedback. I told you the flaws and how you can improve

[oak peak]

Read the last sentence.

[brittle needle]

thanks for providing negative feedback...yeah?

[oak peak]

You told me the flaws. Not how to improve.

[brittle needle]

maybe you should re read it, just like your book

because it has spelling errors, logic errors and more

[oak peak]

I did.

[brittle needle]

obviously not. There are so many errors

[oak peak]

But it taught a beginner concepts of scripting.

[brittle needle]

put it in Grammerly and watch it freak out

[brittle needle]

a paragraph is not teaching

[oak peak]

Grammarly*

[brittle needle]

your topic over gamepasses was longer than variables and of statements combined

on phone btw

don't call me out on my spelling, I'm not selling it for $10

[oak peak]

I’m open to negative feedback, just not in the way you put it.

How could I improve it?

[oak peak]

Quantity is not quality.

And no topic was 1 paragraph

[brittle needle]

It's bad quality also

[oak peak]

I sort of expected this from you.

[brittle needle]

don't become a writer if you can't take criticism

I also did mention how you can improve it. You obviously haven't read it

[oak peak]

I wondered, why would someone buy the book if they knew scripting. Then you said that you were planning to compare it. I knew from that point that it would probably be negative feedback.

[brittle needle]

I mention how you need to restructure it, fix spelling mistakes, errors like calling a method a command and more.

[oak peak]

I have re-read it.

[oak peak]

No you didn’t.

[oak peak]

You said how those things were terrible.

Not how to fix them.

[brittle needle]

do I need to spell it out for you in my review? Maybe you need to work on your analytical skills also.

1 moment

I'll take a screenshot

[oak peak]

Did you read the whole book?

[brittle needle]

yup

re-read this, since you messed up the first time

"it would be much better..."

[agile vale]

I agree with this, the structure is a bit weird.

[brittle needle]

if you can't take criticism stop writing and selling books

[oak peak]

I notice how you edited the message…

[brittle needle]

LOL

I'll send you thr google doc so you can see the edits

how about that?

since you legit cannot take criticism

[oak peak]

Sure. Thanks!

[brittle needle]

will do lol

[oak peak]

I’ll accept that. You put it much nicer.

[brittle needle]

it's hard to compliment hot garbage.
If you are selling a book with major spelling errors, it says a lot about you

you didn't even check for spelling mistakes and decided "hey, this is worth $10!!"

[oak peak]

@brittle needle ^^

[brittle needle]

Yes, I already yes

it's 47 pages and most of it is images and space

[oak peak]

So then, you can tell me exactly what I say about tweening?

@brittle needle?

Let’s see how long it takes you to respond.

[brittle needle]

I'm busy rn. Will respond in 10 mjns. Got to go somewhere

[oak peak]

I’ve been offered a moderator position in a school academic server for being extremely disciplined in spelling and grammar.

[oak peak]

How convenient.

So, 10mins + 2mins = 12mins

12mins to read the section and then say what it is.

[oak peak]

You could have just said what it’s about instead of sending this message after doing some quick thinking.

And if it takes you 10 minutes to read a medium sized section, how the hell were you supposed to have read the book in less than 90mins (and that’s constantly since I sent you the book at 7).

But how could you have compared it to the ‘online LUA course’ without more time.

[oak peak]

So I think you’ve been lying about this.

And also:

[oak peak]

From the looks of this message, you haven’t read all the text either.

It looks like, when you sent that, you didn’t consider the content, you just considered the overall document.

I’m being logical here.

And I bet you won’t even respond ten minutes after you sent that message.

Which is in 2mins

But we’ll see.

Oh wow. Look at that.

[brittle needle]

Alr im back

jeez

[oak peak]

Finished reading the chapter now?

[brittle needle]

text wal

[oak peak]

Read it.

[brittle needle]

no , I dont have a photographic memory, I didnt memorize your code or your book

I just took notes while reading it

let me respond to all these other messages

[brittle needle]

Yes, very convient that I am not sitting on my phone or computer responding on discord all day!

[brittle needle]

sure, but I dont have it memorized

[brittle needle]

I have, I just dont remeber all words on all 47 pages, niether do you most likely

[oak peak]

So you read the entire book doing all the practice exercises whilst taking notes in less than 90mins?

Constantly?

[brittle needle]

no I didnt do the practice exercises..why would I?

I can read code just fine lol

[oak peak]

Then why on earth did you buy the book?

[brittle needle]

And yes, reviewing a book thats 47 pages that is mostly images is very easy to review in less than 90 minutes

Because you shouldnt be sellingg it for $10 for this quality

[oak peak]

Not an interactive book.

[brittle needle]

?

not an interactive book?

[oak peak]

You didn’t know what you’d think until you got it.

[brittle needle]

it obv is if you included excericses

[oak peak]

Exactly!

But did you do them?

No

[brittle needle]

?

you said its not..

bruh

[oak peak]

So how could you have got the most from it.

[oak peak]

Sorry, I should’ve made my meaning clearer.

[brittle needle]

local x = 10
print(x)
``` do this "interactive" exercise

[oak peak]

Not from an interactive book.

[oak peak]

Done. What’s next?

[brittle needle]

this is sidetracking the main problem.
the problem with your book is the structure and content, not the code or the exercises.
I never said anything wrong with your code or excercises

[oak peak]

It showed ‘10’ in the output window.

[brittle needle]

as a scripter I already know that. I dont need to run this code lol

[oak peak]

Ahhh. But the code is the content.

[oak peak]

Me too!

[brittle needle]

then your argument about me not using the exercises is invalid

listen dude,
if you cannot take critism like this, just stop writing books

[oak peak]

Yes. But did you see the last one?

[oak peak]

I take constructive criticism. Not hate. End of this topic please!

[brittle needle]

I gave you constructive critism and you took it to heart

[oak peak]

If I took it to heart, wouldn’t my texts be in capitals?

[oak peak]

Would I not have bad grammar?

[brittle needle]

However. Since you cant seem to take it, im just going to take screenshots of all the bad portions of this book so you can blatantly see I guess

[oak peak]

And what’ll happen to the good portions?

[brittle needle]

There arent many
I already said I dont have a problem with the code or excercises

[oak peak]

Ahhhh! So it’s the grammar you are obsessed with.

[brittle needle]

yes, books are supposed to have good grammar for teaching

Have you been reading books with bad grammar your entire life?

[oak peak]

No.

Look

[brittle needle]

"This is a simple line of code which involves one simple
line of code:" what even is this?

[oak peak]

I remember trying to work with that at one point.

[brittle needle]

This is the first thing you teach, but you later go on to teach fundamentals..why not teach them first?

since you want me to go over every line of this book, I will lol

im just gonna take it apart

tried giving you feedback

[oak peak]

Look. I know how anticipation works.

[oak peak]

Do not share it.

[brittle needle]

I can share screenshots of the book, its legal to. I just cant share the entire source or a majority of pages.
Its essentially qoutting

space key, equals, space key?

thats so ambigous

[oak peak]

Think what that could mean.

[brittle needle]

its ambigous for beginners

[oak peak]

And, you seem to have only read a tiny portion.

[oak peak]

Not to the person I sent it to.

For peer review..

[brittle needle]

So then market this book "Not for beginners"

[oak peak]

He was a beginner, as I stated earlier

[brittle needle]

cool, your mistake

[oak peak]

Look

You’re advanced in your field

And it’s hard looking at the basics another way.

[brittle needle]

no its not

[oak peak]

Yes it is!

I’m speaking from experience here.

[brittle needle]

"hard looking at the basics another way"
the basics, are basic!!!.
theres not much else you can do to dumb them down

its like math.
How else can you teach that x equals a number?

[oak peak]

But you can change your perspective.

[brittle needle]

regardless, this is sidetracking, you are selling a bad book for $10

[oak peak]

Well, you can teach it one way, or another.

[brittle needle]

Why only include certain code in screenshots. Why not code blocks etc?

[oak peak]

Ye. That’s the page issue, I was typing on a Mac and you’ve got the pdf, different things, and it makes the format go weird.

[brittle needle]

Thats not how PDFs work

PDFs use HTML

and its the same for the most part

[oak peak]

Not with mac.

Look, I still can’t understand why you bought it.

[brittle needle]

Again, teaching wait() and ReplicatedStorage before going over the very basics

This should also have been after the basics

[oak peak]

That’s just wait()

No replicatedstorage systems needed.

[brittle needle]

im 80% sure you dont even go over global and local throughout this book

[brittle needle]

you mention it in the screenshot

[oak peak]

You’re a bit thick…

[oak peak]

Yes.

You can mention things early.

[oak peak]

I do mention it.

[brittle needle]

Let me mentions series and summations before teaching you algebra

how abt that?

[oak peak]

This proves you haven’t read the book

[oak peak]

That’s what my maths teacher does. He gives us a brief overview of how a topic can be useful before learning it.

[brittle needle]

This proves you dont read my messages

stop directly attacking me, and focus on the critique lol

[oak peak]

This proves you don’t remember the items in the book at all!

[brittle needle]

no, I just said I dont have a photographic memory.
I also said im 80% sure.

[oak peak]

That’s fair, but you’re expanding on the critique.

[oak peak]

Hmmmmm

🤔

[brittle needle]

Yes, since you want to keep attacking me instead of focusing on your book conrent

[oak peak]

You’re attacking me with the book content, so I’m defending it.

This is getting stupid.

[brittle needle]

Its called criticism

bro

[oak peak]

And I accept it.

[brittle needle]

Obv not lol.
Otherwise you wouldnt have been defending it for this long

[oak peak]

Are we done here? It’s just, I need to go 💤.

[brittle needle]

Sure, im gonna keep posting about the bad portions of this book

[oak peak]

Okay.

[oak peak]

Answer me this question though.

Why did you buy the book when you already know scripting, was it just to try to downgrade me in hopes of getting yourself higher?

[brittle needle]

No, its to prevent people from getting scammed for $10

simple as that

[oak peak]

Where r u even posting them?

[brittle needle]

in here

[oak peak]

Fine.

[brittle needle]

its a feedback channel after all

Finally, after teaching more than 7 sections, we arrrive at if statements...but only briefly...

"’, it
needs to be a ’==’ because a double equal sign shows that there are no
other possibilities that could replace the value."
wtf

what are you even saying

no other possibilities?

what??

are you doing statistics in your code or something that im not aware of?

while loop section skipped over do keyword and goto etc

"Cloning is a way of changing or duplicating the parent or explorer position
of an object in your game."

thats false

you can clone pretty much any object, does not need to be a parent or "explorer position"?

[oak peak]

The player?

You can’t clone the player.

[brittle needle]

sorry, "Part"

or model

etc

im not the one writing a book about it

[oak peak]

Yes, but if you continue further leakage, I will file legal action.

[brittle needle]

what im doing is legal

already said that

"Under the fair use doctrine of the U.S. copyright statute, it is permissible to use limited portions of a work including quotes, for purposes such as commentary, criticism, news reporting, and scholarly reports."

there ya go

no idea why you use a hyphen for coordinates throughout the book

":CFrames are a certain,
non-changing position."

" due to them being more
flexible."
the same 3 paramters

how is it more "more flexible"

chat GPT could write better than this

[oak peak]

“If you use a copyrighted work without authorization, the owner may be entitled to bring an infringement action against you. There are circumstances under the fair use doctrine where a quote or a sample may be used without permission. However, in cases of doubt, the Copyright Office recommends that permission be obtained.”

[brittle needle]

yeah ?

" There are circumstances under the fair use doctrine where a quote or a sample may be used without permission"

then when you read more, youll find the qoute I sent came from the copyright website!

". If you think your
game has a very good chance of excellence, feel free to contact me with a
link to it and I can help you with business and marketing strategies for it!"
Actually hillarous.
Making a book, telling people to make games, then offering to essentially become their marketing manager LOL

[oak peak]

But not multiple quotes, samples, and toxicity.

[brittle needle]

toxicity is no where mentioned in their page lol.
it can be mu;ltiple qoutes, just not a majority of the book etc

bro legit cannot read

it says on the site

" There are no legal rules permitting the use of a specific number of words, a certain number of musical notes, or percentage of a work. "
like bro

you cannot read if your life depended on it

I find it absolutely hilarous that you couldnt take the criticism, so you threatened me with copyright

[untold ledge]

holy

[oak peak]

Don’t ask.

[oak peak]

He’s been going like this for hours.

[untold ledge]

can i see the book

[oak peak]

He’s already leaked most of it. DMs?

[oak peak]

Well, not most of it.

[untold ledge]

oh i didnt read the entire thing lol

[oak peak]

Good

lol

You’d be wasting your time.

[brittle needle]

same with reading the book ☠️

[oak peak]

He only is leaking the “bad bits” to him.

[primal agate]

What book?

[brittle needle]

1 sec, ill link the most important bits

Hes selling this terrible book for $10

IO reviewed it, and he threatened me with legal action lol

[oak peak]

DMs, then you’ll get an unbiased review.

[brittle needle]

#1276592853962719303 message First review.
#1276592853962719303 message Startt of second where I post screenshots

Peter are you gonna put this book on your IRS forms?
If not im gonna leak the entire book since it would be illigal to sell it

[primal agate]

Hierarchy before syntax is insane

[oak peak]

And the review from a beginner:

[brittle needle]

yes, from a BEGINNER

bro

[oak peak]

^^

[brittle needle]

how is a beginner supposed to know if the content is wrong

[oak peak]

What the book is made for.

[oak peak]

They know whether it’s useful

[brittle needle]

...

legit insane

[oak peak]

You’re locked in one perspective.

[brittle needle]

im gonna mention mods

[primal agate]

This just says 0.5 = 50%… % means per 100…

[brittle needle]

"This is the first thing you teach, but you later go on to teach fundamentals..why not teach them first?"
wasnt taliking about the code itself

[primal agate]

That’s just a pleonasm

[brittle needle]

its the only line I said

And I showed a screenshot of the section

[primal agate]

Let’s sell a book for 10 bucks and add basic grammatical errors in it

Either this wasn’t ever proof read. Or the proof reader has never finished any classes in any language before

[brittle needle]

"customisation" yeah

[primal agate]

Customisation?

[brittle needle]

oh well, that differes I guess. Different in the US and Britain

just looked it up

@primal agate did he send you the book?

[primal agate]

This shit was not even put into a basic grammar testing program

Hell google docs would’ve fucking noticed this

[primal agate]

No

“An example involves you instead of saying.” Is just an insanely awful sentence

[primal agate]

@oak peak come on man, at least use some sort of grammar check

The pleonasm was still reasonable but this is just awful

[brittle needle]

Grammerly is slowly counting

total errors so far

oh nvm

it was 386

that was total

"This code line has been used for a long time in most programming languages including python and it is the first line of code that introduces the script to the system. " 🤨

introduces the script to the system...

"Strings usually are words like the property in the properties tab called ‘Material’, which contains strings like ‘Plastic’ and ‘Grass’ which you can use in your scripts like the example below: "
why stretch this out so much

anyways,....not worth $10...lowering my review to 2/10

[untold ledge]

the guy who was here left 😭

[brittle needle]

did he leave the server?

damn

good

Ah hell nahhhh @untold ledge

"A little suprise" ☠️

@primal agate am I cooked?

[primal agate]

Perchance

[untold ledge]

😭 😭 😭 😭

diddy pic hidden in the book

[brittle needle]

https://tenor.com/view/white-dog-shaking-scared-nervous-dog-scared-and-shaking-gif-22874221