💡 Creation Channel BlacklistHow would it be used?If someone is being annoying/using the channe...

[south wadi]

Please discuss this idea civilly, don't forget to vote on this idea in #📝︱server-suggestions!

[royal citrus]

Fr

[fickle karma]

Really had to think about it lol

[royal citrus]

I'm tired of ChatGPT users coming into #📜︱scripting whining about their script not using when they didn't make, nor understand it. And in SOME cases they send the script, and they leave out the fact that they didn't even make it

[fickle karma]

Or free model script people

[royal citrus]

Fr

I hate it so much bro

[fickle karma]

And they actually don't take advice

they just swipe it off like it's meaningless

[royal citrus]

It's impossible to help someone who can't even script the thing they wanna make, too

If it is, it's INCREDIBLY long and frustrating

[fickle karma]

I hope they actually add this 🙏

[royal citrus]

And ends up helping nobody, because the ChatGPT user STILL doesn't understand what they did wrong, the changes, and how to avoid them

And all we get in return isn't the satisfaction of helping someone, but frustrated glee at the fact the person who doesn't even understand what they're doing in the slightest left

It'll only result in arguments

There's NO actual scripter who enjoys "helping" people who use ChatGPT, they only help them to make them shut up

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fr

[royal citrus]

Exactly, and what's "better", like what Geter Priffin said, they usually don't listen, and they're annoyingly stubborn. What's even the point of helping them, anyways? We know they'll just go back to using ChatGPT to get their non-solutions, so they're just harmful in #📜︱scripting

[fickle karma]

And also, people may try to learn off them too

so they could also hurt the newcomers

[royal citrus]

Yeah, they may get to like S1, and since S1's likely are inclined to being listened to be new users since they have a scripter role, they could be told to "Use ChatGPT to make scripts for you", rather than the proper use, as a tool. So then we have another person down the cycle of reliance on the unreliable

[fickle karma]

ong

They would just give the improper information that just ends up hurting everyone who decides to take it as a bigger person's opinion or something

[royal citrus]

They need to get a role that prohibits them from sending messages in #📜︱scripting, #1020374354867007528, and #📜︱scripting-help-classic, since they can't even help help themselves, and nobody will enjoy "helping" them

[fickle karma]

I was thinking mainly the creation channels

[royal citrus]

And, they can even get S2 by using ChatGPT to generate like half the script in specific ways, then they'll REALLY be doing harm

[royal citrus]

Since ChatGPT is usually Scrpting, I feel like it should be all scripting related things

[fickle karma]

Like #📱︱gui because of the mass amounts of hiring posts in there

[royal citrus]

True

In Creations and in the help channels

Prohibited from sending messages UNTIL they can prove they can actually script themselves without relying on ChatGPT

It's different than relying on Google and DevForum, while still bad, the people there actually KNOW what they're doing

[fickle karma]

I think they could have a badge like a caution symbol for the channel blacklist role

[royal citrus]

Yea

Become a fuckin' Pariah

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fr

[plucky lodge]

why does the example have to be scr*pting

I Like the idea but not the example 9/10

could’ve been 10/10

[royal citrus]

Did you seriously just censor "scripting"?

[plucky lodge]

yes

[royal citrus]

We're not THAT bad bruh

[plucky lodge]

Yes you are “THAT” bad

[royal citrus]

Smh

[plucky lodge]

Every single one of you

[royal citrus]

People call the channel the worst channel in the entire server but they're just haters

#📜︱scripting Is a peaceful, not toxic place

[plucky lodge]

Unless you are called Dodman531 then you have an exception

[plucky lodge]

Every single scr*pter in existence:

[restive stream]

Kind of exists with rank blacklists

But yeah this is cool idea

[restive stream]

Yeah and nikocado avocado is skinny

[royal citrus]

We're only hostile when people deserve it

[restive stream]

Also posting ai generated stuff and claiming you made it is ban worthy btw

[plucky lodge]

you lie

[restive stream]

Bs lmao

[royal citrus]

See?

Friendly

No toxicity

[plucky lodge]

paid actors

[restive stream]

Fr

Half the scripters are racist ngl

[royal citrus]

We all have a bit of racism in us

[restive stream]

NAHHH

Of course the ones saying this are scripters

[plucky lodge]

Huh

[versed vigil]

I don't think making a blacklist for skill channels is the smartest thing cuz it's the main reason people join for

Also people change so yea

Long suggestion does not mean good suggestion

Also hiring outside of markeplace still blacklists them from marketplace

Now about chat gpt
Cry about it lol
in most skil channel any ai or free models does not help
making seperate blist for each channel is stupid

[versed vigil]

Also yes you can report thru tickets

With proof obv

[tiny vortex]

Blacklisting people from creations channels in RSC is like Microsoft banning individuals from using Windows. It's an integral part of the server that gives significant reason for people to be here. People will be moderated instead of their experience being crippled in a way where they might as well just be banned from the server entirely

[royal citrus]

We still want a solution for the people who come into the channels trying to get a solution for something they don't even uderstand or didn't even make in the first place, and "just deal with it", isn't exactly a solution imo

[versed vigil]

we dont

just

let it be

you cannot destry all stupid people in this world

[royal citrus]

Okay so essentially your solution is to just "deal with it"

[versed vigil]

yes

[royal citrus]

Even though that solves nothing and is kinda

Just an excuse

But alright, it doesn't exactly find middleground or explain how the thing desired isn't viable

[versed vigil]

we are just creating unwated solutions for the smallest problems

[royal citrus]

Accomplishes nothing besides "haha lol my input is worthless"

[versed vigil]

yes

[royal citrus]

I'm talking about you

[versed vigil]

we cant do shit without hitting major roadblocks

[versed vigil]

this suggest is more worthless then me writing 100 line long paragrah why this idea is shit

[royal citrus]

You DO realize I'm saying the only thing your input is, by saying "just deal with it", is worthless input?

[versed vigil]

i know

but there is not a good solution

[royal citrus]

Because shit input isn't shit when the suggestion is bad, factual

Since shit somehow isn't shit for certain situations

[versed vigil]

as chogi said
might as well ban the people

but thats more shit

so let it be

[royal citrus]

How will they even be "moderated"?

[versed vigil]

if you can bring a good idea without any major roadblocks then we can see

[royal citrus]

Can't you just say you need to actually make the thing to request help over it? (Asking chatGPT to make an entire script and then being perplexed on why it doesn't work for shit)

If they can't be blacklisted atleast just SOMETHING to where people can't want help for something they used AI to generate

[versed vigil]

only thing you can do is give verbal warn or just ignore people who do this shit

ignore bro

how hard is it

[royal citrus]

Very.

[versed vigil]

or give a verbal warn

[royal citrus]

The mods never glance in the cesspool of #📜︱scripting, also not viable

[versed vigil]

if we get sensitive and fucking start warning people on this shit then its our loss only

[royal citrus]

Whatever I'ma do something actually productive

[versed vigil]

there are like fucking 40 channels + tickets
how much can 10 mods even do

[royal citrus]

Like it's my fault for them not having enough mods for a large server

The moderation for certain channels, like #📜︱scripting sucks, it's a factual statement that you can't refute

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Tbh that sounds pretty good

A temp channel blacklist

[olive jackal]

discord members arguing about stupid things is my favorite thing

I also like this idea