#šļø±animating
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That also depends, some idles are more complex
if it has Q U A L I TY
What makes higher quality
Idle doesn't instantly equal animation of person breathing
Iāve seen some rly nice and smooth animations that are a1
and some animations make of GFX so its rly rly realistic
Smoothness
Good body mechanics
Good use of animation principles
etc
Once again
Some extremely smooth animations are a1
And a lot of animations ranks Iāve seen have a lot to do with the model
Like the ones with the dinosaur things
And once again, smoothness isn't the only criteria in ranking animations 
Bro you could have an animation as smooth as a babies butt but if the posing is trash, body mechanics are trash, weight application is trash, etc then it's still going to be a bad animation
Literally what the word is
body mechanics
how the body works and moves

What would you rank this, ignore the models, just the animation
(Also I didnāt make it)
Would it just bearly be a2 because the user isnāt moving


s1
seems pretty close to a2, it's smooth but the posing is messing it up for me
I likey
head animators, not best animators 
Dude, most of the mid-high a2s and higher absolutely destroy that 
Dandy
really?
I mean it's good but not like insane
It was made by Stuck from aut
https://gyazo.com/d65b8ebed772ea44563077061f6b8f20 this is one of the a3's animations 
Papa pry
add u fr

Thatās not what a3 feels like
One sec
When I think a3, I think of something like this (once again I didnāt make this) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738507116976930857/856545413574033428/Testing1dadadad.mp4
i-
.
Ignore jojo

Itās fooken good
You do realize that's a whole cinematic right, remove the camera and effects and the animation isn't anything crazy (though I still think it's nice)

Ok ok so let me get this straight
I think a good animation isnāt just ⨠a n I m a t I o n āØ
Ik thatās how itās ranked here
But a rly good animation needs more then just 6 or 15 blocks moving
And donāt deny that
If u saw a Disney movie like that u would just go home
If were talking cinematic then yes
But you don't need cinematics for an animation to be good
Thatās true
If animations were ranked simply by the extras added, ranking would be messed up
But I think that a simple emote isnāt next level
We do consider extras in animations but we don't use it as a necessary part of ranking
If someone made a cinematic that had nice visuals but somewhat decent"animation" then there was someone else who had a good animation but it was just a good animation, were going to rank the good animation higher
Why? Because they've shown that they can just handle rigs and apply principles of animations better
Does a animation thats decent and is just a copy of another games animation deserve a2
In my opinion
No
I don't know don't ask me, I never said it was a2 in the first place
I only said it depends

fUck
Dis . D o o d e


It's one thing if it's decent, but if they just flat out copied or even "frame by frame" then that's an instant no 
Though, you can still use references. That's a normal part of animation
Well
Now thereās this
And it will take a while for me to find it
So
Hereās some popcorn
šæ

Nvm that videos dead
Have you ever seen the video of the guy who made a complete copy of that anime dance with the video of it next to it
The animation was great but it was a frame by frame copy
ye
š¤
Prys?
Frame by frame is an immediate no
yeah I think that's pry's
And someone made it on blender
Can you send me it
frame by frame is way too tedious 
Because it had the video right next to it

It was a exact copy
how does having a reference next to you so it's easy to see = frame by frame
That looks like my friends dad but letās not talk about that
Just send me the video
Yes thatās it
But how tf would you make that without pausing it and looking at the frames
itās moving to fast to just make it as u go
1.You don't need to be a god to be able to make an animation look like the ref (Though it is hard). If you have a very good understanding of animation you can do it without much problems.
U have to move the rigās key frames
If itās still playing then-
Y o u. C a n t
have u used blender before?
I still think thatās a rly good animation but by your logic is not even a1
Not for animation
Wdym "have to move the rigs keyframes"
explains a lot
how do u think it works?
Dude
I think you're confusing frame by frame
Frame by frame would be if I tried my best to see all the frames in an animation and copy it down
Pausing an animation or slowing it down to see it through isn't frame by frame

If I took most of the frames of something to make my animation then that would be frame by frame
That
Dance
Is
A
Copy
Itās literally trying to be as close as the dance as possible
but if I slowed it down or paused it just so I can see the animation without it going mach 100 then it's not frame by frame, that's literally me just trying to see the ref
isnt that the point???
Well yeah, but that's normal. It would be frame by frame if I just took the frames in order to make it close as possible
You're again confusing things
Literally what Iām saying 
S o. I t s. C o p y I n g. I t
i mean not really
looking at a ref to make the animation close as possible is normal
Looking at all the refs frames in order to copy them down is frame by frame
that isnt frame by frame
You're confusing the two and making them the same, you're pretty much saying that looking at a reference is copying and is therefore bad
Copying is the same as frame by frame except itās not as exact@
ain't no way

But itās not frame by frame
cartoons are different
A cartoon is a animation
theres different style in cartoons

do yk what fanart is dusk 
I legit have this video saved from when it was posted 'cause I loved it so much lmao
Thereās a difference between fanart and a strait up copy that only exists to make money
do yk what dtiys are dusk 
Dtiys?
Looking at a reference to make an animation isn't copying, how the hell is that copying. Did you know? That almost ALL professions on roblox use references???
do this in your style
Itās the exact animation but roblox
I see no problem with it
Thatās a copy

I donāt either, but heās saying that a animation thatās a copy is bad
IF YOU MADE IT LOOK LIKE THE REF, WITHOUT THE USE OF FRAME BY FRAME, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU COPIED
So I pointed out this
tru

Say it ain't so man
jesus christ
idk I think using a reference is using a reference not copying especially in roblox 'cause I mean look at the games on roblox we move everythign from shows/animes into roblox form and such
Once again

I think itās a good animation and I donāt see anything wrong with the copy because itās just a lil roblox meme. Reborn said that a animation thatās a copy is bad so I brought this up. This is a copy and itās literally trying to be one. This copy is extremely exact and in no way original.
If you go to any frame on the video it will be exact
You canāt just do that without looking through the frames
if u copy another roblox animation, then bad
I guess so
you do realize that if you put enough keyframes, frame by frame isn't even needed because the keyframes will blend well together, if something looks like the ref it doesn't automatically mean they copied frames
If you copy any animation for any animation is pretty much always bad
I said that most frames are copied
Because you canāt do something like that without looking at at least a few frames

i think u dont know how this works 

If you were to look at the keyframes of an animation, that's not frame by frame
āIf you copy the frames then itās very badā
That's just seeing the keypoints of what you're animating
if I looked at the most important frames of a ref I'm trying to animate, how is that frame by frame. Infact looking at a reference is looking at frames, so I guess everyone that uses a reference is a copying piece of shit
actual professional animators be using real shit or even themselves as references, would that be copying?? 
Difference between a reference for a few frames and copying a entire animation
The entire thing that was posted
Was a copy of that dance

And thatās a fact
You canāt argue with that

Yes, there is a difference but you're acting like there is no difference at all. You were going around talking like pry copied most of the frames when you don't even need to do that to make it clean

this convo is dumb
If you get the main frames, add inbetweens and just have steady keyframe control it can turn out very nice without the use of frame by frame 
not every frame is being animatedddd 
Iām saving this
well I guess you're right-ish
How is it right-ish if the video was uploaded with the tag
Copied the dance as best as I could

You're saying it's a blatant copy because the animator was able to make the animation look very similar to the ref (Which you don't need frame by frame to do btw). Looking at a reference and making the animation look as similar to the reference as possible without frame by frame isn't wrong at all
It just means you're well
Good

people usually say copy as a bad thing I'd rather say reference for something like that but I guess it's a copy, nothing wrong with it though
There is a clear difference between trying to make it look similar
And literally
Trying to copy it as best as you can
Dusk let me just try to clear this up, what do you mean by "copy"
Do you mean frame by frame?
Do you mean they shouldn't try their best to make it look like the reference?
Is a copy of that dance
It is the exact same dance
With the oh
Og *
Next to it
Showing off
How exact of a copy it is
** You are now Level 9! **
You keep on ignoring this one simple fact though, you don't need frame by frame to accomplish that
There are people like notive and alti and so many others who have made that level of smoothness and similarity without the use of frame by frame
It doesnāt matter if itās f by f if itās a blatant copy thatās showing off how good of a copy it is
of I make a animation and I say
āI copied it as best as I couldā
How is it not a copy
Please explain this

if you F by F then that would be copying, but if you were able to make an animation look exactly like the ref
THAT ISN'T COPYING
THAT'S JUST SKILL

HOW IS THAT COPYING
B o I
I do not understand anything here.
If
lemme put my
Itās
baws
Claimed
in u
jaw
Copy
s
You're using completely different examples, If I copied a movies story then that would be me stealing material, but if I were able to make an animation look like it's reference through the use of normal animating that's not copying, that's skill
In general
If something is claimed to be a copy
And
It has the original right next to it
And itās extremely exact
Then guess what
You can't say in general though, they're two completely different concepts
This sounds like something similar to ācopyright strikeā but without the strike š¤
Making an animation look like a reference through the use of skill (or no frame by frame) that's literally not copying
omfg
And the original is next to it and itās extremely extresmtl exact
Extremely *
Then itās a copy of some sort
If zoos here made an emote that looked exactly like the reference, that means he's good at doing posing, that means he's going at applying realism, that means he's good at applying weight and body mechanics and all types of other principles.
like i said before, dtiys are litterally just that bro

Huh
If someone made a copy of the dance through the use of skill, that isn't bad at all 
Iām not on no ones side
b o I
Ik it was a joke lol
Did u read my essay I said earlier
I said
āI think that itās a rly good animation but by your logic itās a copyā
But longer and with more stuff
Because essay
If someone was able to make a copy of an animation through the use of skill
how is that bad?
I was implying frame by frame btw

if you made a copy of a ref through the use of skill, that's really impressive 
Holy shit itās been 1 hour
you
if u draw a character, and traced it, then bad. If u use that character as a reference, and drew it yourself, then bad? 
Thereās a difference between what Iām talking about rn and tracing a picture
I want to go to bed but this convo is too interesting
Ikr
basically the same thing u r talking about
I could be using the bathroom rn but noooooo
When I said copy I meant using frame by frame and other methods to completely copy a reference (a good example is mocap)
There
the mf bathroom like in my video 
Using frame by frame and mocap is wrong but if you made an animation look exactly like a ref through skill that's not bad at all.
I think this happened because you misunderstood what I meant by "copy"
I probably should have been more specific there
Every argument if itās like this where points matters, it wonāt stop, itās like having a infinite race.

Me
I never said it was
i came out of no where and then dusk came out of no where

Bro is it gonna start over again. 
ok bye now
Yeah I'm gone
jesus christ
Itās midnight but o o
gn arguers
Good day to u to
i justed wanted to know if my anim was a2 or not 
wat anim
A emote copy
me see
man the internet is crazy, people fr go from being at each others throats to wishing each other good night
crazy
Put my bawwws in your jawwwws
i have to go back up now
nub
legit
it used a reference man
Welp, gn everyone
cant just accuse me of copying
oh no
N o
Just no more
Itās been almost a hour and a half
Just for me to be right tho

Ur jusy stubborn 
But itās works
no 
they have life
ty ty
|| āØgg ez no re lol trash skill issues lol get scammed ez no re very poggers scam my ni 66 ez ⨠||
keep going and I'm sure you'll get A2 sometime
I never said it wasnāt good
wasnt saying u didnt
just said animation was good
lel
yea i was trying to figure out what reborn had to say about it

then u started a massacre
yeah 
Just maken sure caramel didnāt think that I said it was a bad animation
on that note, good night for real this time
Ik*
no
You see
GN
According to the moon night is just a copy of day but darker
i just need an A3 or an A* to verify me for mod to change my role 
:sigh/
Reborn never gave me an answer 
Yea he did
Or she
Or they
Idk
did he?
oh
Iāll scroll up
He said it 3 times but i dont want to find those times
Itās funny because u said that right under it
i just want a2 man 
atleast one of them was is a2 worthy
Which one
Ok
Getting that as a response woukd usually means u dont care 

Just a little cool thing my friend @Lasting_Ink and i put together,
Sword model and map, by me
Anims by @Lasting_Ink
HOW DA HELL ARE YOU ONLY AN A1
JUST BECAUSE THE USER'S NOT MOVING DOESNT MEAN THAT ITS LOWER, in animating, we just rank the animation itself, meaning, we rank the stand, we wouldnt care if zed character isnt moving whatsoever
Sir, THIS IS THE ANIMATING CHANNEL, THERES A CHANNEL FOR EFFECTS
idk how to animate effects 
ok
i need my level 5
yes
ok
mhm
yeah
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Sick but follow through and a bit of arc
arc?
can i see a ref
so i get what you mean
Further Animation Learning: http://bit.ly/2dleXfH
Full playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-bOh8btec4CXd2ya1NmSKpi92U_l6ZJd
(0:10) 1. Squash and Stretch
(2:07) 2. Anticipation
(4:14) 3. Staging
(6:33) 4. Straight Ahead/Pose to Pose
(9:14) 5. Follow Through & Overlapping Action
(11:17) 6. Slow In & Slow Out
(12:57) 7. Arcs
(14:38)...
Here
5 and 7
Hi, I am new to animating. I could use some tips or videos to help me out.
^I see the video up there but is there anything else I should take note of while animating?
Alright
I reccomend using Moon Animator since it is quite simple to use, first try making simple animations like a simple punch, not too detailed. Then try to make a kick animation. Alright now combine those two and you got a starter run animation (remember to do it for both arms and legs so it actually works). That should be a good enough starter project for you
Oh, and remember to make the arms and legs go backwards too for the run.
Well depends...
If you have a bit of knowledge of Blender you can also start with that.
The proof is me.
https://gyazo.com/1822265ca17c13881a5d8c1ca6267ffb.gif
(Started with this yesterday)
I have never used blender for animations.
So this is my first one ever with Blender
I started with Anim editor. But never liked it.
Blender is really nice to use.
(Not finished)
wish dragon villain
Bruh i don't know if my animations are good enough to level up with so i gotta add more stuff or--?
i started with your mom
clipped
can someone please answer the question
What question
What animator
^
moon animator
Go to the bar on the top of the GUI and go click the 3rd one I think? If Iām right there should be something called animation settings
You should be able to figure it out from here
** You are now Level 1! **
or anyone
Alright, thank you.
Should i switch to blender?
ye
If you have knowledge of it then yes
Well i don't, but i could learn about it.
Because most of the people use blender to animate.
if you're willing to learn then go ahead
Is blender better than moon animator?
yes
10x better
Inverse kinetics, bezier, graph editor, you name it
And this is coming from someone that mains moon
You need to download an addon if i'm right?
sir this is a Wendeez
wendeez nuts
it... is 3d?
1000x
get deepfried, i'd like to have them, with mayo
clipped
You need an addon to make animations right?
yes
:/
and other good stuff in default blender
Alot of blackmail on me out there, i'm used to it
Prika
What do you mean it has to be roblox or 3D for the animation to get me levelled up?
it is 3d??
but is it in roblox
:o derr
This is both, roblox and its 3d, so-
just wait for a mod
damn
but like what do you mean it has to be 3d?
"Share your animations!"
honestly, just animation in general
yea
besides 2d
some 2d animators got leveled b4
why does it matter where its made
ye id say so too
dunno why they just
so i should ignore prika?
i guess
dont ignore him smh
lol
the advice tho was like: only roblox
take it
LMAO
got it.
thats not how it works bauocma
he gives advice on animating if he feels like it
ye but the advice wasnt given about the animation
it was just like: only roblox
big mad
oh
most of us, our advice is mostly just, use a reference
yea
well yes but
never touched an animation ref in my life
"only roblox" isnt good advice in animating channel
ikr
yea, most animations are made on blender and can be applied to roblox
ye
i dont think thats advice for animating, thats just how to actually get a role 
@lethal gorge how much tris does that model have?
JUST BECAUSE HE DONE IT ONCE, DOESNT MEAN ALL HIS ADVICE IS LEGIT JUST "ROBLOX"
5k
** You are now Level 3! **
god why all caps
Cuz i'm quite enraged by this
big mad, also borsen is 5k
5k is import able
so am i because "only roblox" isnt a great thing to tell to someone
to roblox studio
if theyre not a mod
so he can snuggly fit into roblox
he's as a3 for a reason
and this is animating channel
oh i know hes in roblox
if anything, his advice is worth more than mine
lol ok
** You are now Level 1! **
you want advice from me?
i didnt ask for any
wait, is it skinned mesh/has bones
quite the contrary, i'm the one offering advice
what?
good for you
its a simple yes or no question
no
i havent imported his animations to roblox
wasnt so hard to reply nicely wasnt it
but his model fits in there snuggly with his textures
replying nicely = no
oh yes very nice response we got goin on here
if thats so, this is the wrong channel, nobody wants to put up with that type of shit
i like this
stop talking to me then
I'm merely just defending prika
same
smol wiggle
wiggul
well, i dont think anyone wants to
You dont get to decide what i do
@lethal gorge do you want to talk to me
lmao
yea?
w-
lmao
u got me
me leaving the situation
epic
^
*you entering it*
jojo music
lmaoo
anyways, imma go continue binging, goodday sir
ok
s i r
F
ok
Could anyone help me set up the blender thingy?

flushed
** You are now Level 1! **
Would this be an A2 tier? or nah
do you know what easings are?
yeah you mean the easing styles?
Im still playing around with them to understand them better lol, I do use them for some of mines though (haven't applied any to this animation yet)
ok
dang i am at a road block
how the heck do i animate a cape
??
and then play the animation
someone please tell me how to fix this shit https://streamable.com/zex984
https://streamable.com/byt8up
won't let me export the gun anim
that gun recoil is too low
it was a test
i've been having the problem for a while
i made a quick anim
do you know how to fix it
or nah
@crisp monolith youre an animation expert
can you explain why its not exporting

Animation test for a roblox game, model not by me but from the dev team im working with. Basically the animation was to test out well the rig moves so thats why its extra b o u n c y

is he stroking the gun
bro
its a fucking
test animation
i need help exporting the shit for later

i literally put 2 seconds of work
into the damn thing
just someone please tell me
how to fix the export issue
they didnt want mesh deform :/
Weirdos
:> ye

is nobody gonna help me 
he do his lil dancy dance
he only uses moon
this happened to me before but only on a a game with team crate on
is it just a regular blank baseplate
Yeah
š
its a local file??
if it is just use another rig
2D animators are cool tho 
tried making a semi realistic walk
well not really
it just turned out like this
is it good?
also i cant decide if its a run or walk
yeah, im just really bad at making the arm swinging animations look good
any tips?
heres an example
btw
what about the torso movement
does it look a bit too much or?
its supposed to be criminality based
okay
the fps is so bad
New animating coming along, Model by KateTheQueen, for a Roblox game.
Maybe
Move the arms
wym
i did look
In your second version you fixed it, but the arms were tapered by the side in the first version
i know
but is the walk itself good?
Yeah
mans zoomin
looks unnatural
this level 1 worthy naw idunnp
smh smh falls
sadly i didnt use blender just the normal roblox animator
fall
oh oki
wtf is weight
^
idk what else you say
wait you're a III animator yet-
yea idk















