#Alternative Farming Guide

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red hazel
nimble sinew
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It’s just nooch2gud’s classic farming path with slight alterations (iden and gauntlet star fighter)

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It works but it’s not experimental since it’s basically the most popular way to play the game

fiery warren
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In terms of early fleets, this one (picture below) works better than the Vader/Bomber/TFP starting lineup.

XB calls Vader to assist. When TIE Bomber reinforces, it calls Vader to assist again. (to punch through Hounds Tooth). Then Bomber does its AoE and burns everyone. Pretty much game over by then.
This can punch up 50k+ gp against the Vader/Bomber/TFP lineup.
XB doesn't need to have good stats, he only exists to call Vader to assist.

Also I'd recommend not getting Chimaera since Executrix will last you until you get Executor. Chimaera would need you to farm a Rebel fleet, and needs a bunch of prestige to upgrade its abilities, which just delays your getting Exec. Better off just saving the prestige for Executor since it'll take months to save up enough to max it out.

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Otherwise guide looks pretty good, perhaps add in something about why the Poncho Bros / Peridea Pals assault battles are better than the others. I like how you go into detail about the rationale behind the farming order.

fiery warren
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Could also mention that it's not always the best path to immediately 7* the Executor for 25k crystals. If your shard is relatively new, you can get away with using a 4/5* one for a few months and save the crystals to use elsewhere

Should also emphasise the importance of joining a guild that does raids frequently (raid tokens = gear). These days it's worth bringing Tarkin to relic too just because he can solo 300k, and help a new player get into a better guild. With the bonus of making Executrix better too.

A suggestion to make it easier to read is make the text bigger, or the cells less wide, or add a margin between the pictures and text. Or put it on a google doc.

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I also just noticed you have Gar and ISC in your Troopers team. They are Empire but not Troopers. It would work better with Starck, Dark, Range, Gideon or anyone who's actually an Imperial Trooper to gain the bonus turn meter from Veers. Possibly even Storm or Snowtrooper if you're aiming for the easy farms.

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hope this helps!

nimble sinew
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Yeah I was wondering about the pancho bros. I noticed u had iden in the plan, but not in ur fleet ? I also like chimera better then tarkin, but I understand the argument for trix. If u make an imperial trooper team without dark trooper it really suffers and while it can do some stuff it’s really limited.I would recommend getting aura sing and or zam wessel because executor bounty hunters suck.

I also like the revans more than trays and qui gon, because they do better in the AB and they can be used outside of GAC.

fiery warren
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Aurra and Zam are reqs for Jabba and Lord Vader respectively so they are worth getting at some point

nimble sinew
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Yep totally the problem as I’m sure u know is that nooch’s plan sets up a really nice late game, but has a horrible early and mid game. If your first 10 relics are on Executor req u just won’t be having a good time

fiery warren
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(disclaimer, I haven't actually seen Nooch's plan tbh)

nimble sinew
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Well u laud it out almost perfectly

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That’s a compliment

fiery warren
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ty

nimble sinew
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I know this is kinda sketchy but have u looked at the mandalorians recently

fiery warren
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It might be worth throwing in a couple non-Exec relics for fun/QOL like:

  • Mara (or just speeeeeeed. My relic Empire gets trashed by g12 Mara if she's super speedy)
  • CRex
  • relic speedy Piett will steamroll with his TM train team
  • POW/QGJ depending
  • probably worth getting Poncho Bros and Enoch to relic early because they wreck conquest too. Plus Enoch counters a bunch of random things in GAC, I've seen a low gear Enoch wrecking a relic GAS squad
fiery warren
nimble sinew
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Well…. Like old Bo katan lead canderous, jango, imperial super cammando and gar Saxon are kinda interesting because with imperial super commando’s rework the team might actually be good and the farms feed right into other stuff as well

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But yeah I might also be going off

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And yeah I agree with all the bonus characters u mentioned

fiery warren
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hmm, interesting take

farms feed right into other stuff
Canderous for Revan, Jango because you'll have a million shards of him from Hounds Tooth, Bo Katan goes into a BKM team later?

nimble sinew
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Yeah that’s what I was thinking.

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Ahnald tested it out, but that was before super cammondo got his rework, so I was just thinking

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It does kinda go away from executor but idk it’s still interesting

fiery warren
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True, it's probably still better to aim for Executor first for the crystals to fuel these farms

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but I can see a case for doing Mandalorians early

nimble sinew
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Another thing that has been on my mind is director krennick

fiery warren
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personally, after I get Exec (hoping for October unlock 🤞 ) I'm doing: DR, Padme, C-3PO, Profundity, Negotiator/GR fleet, GAS, JKR/Malak, JKL, Lord Vader, Leia then Jabba. Then BKM and JKCK right after

nimble sinew
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Yeah that’s smart

fiery warren
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what does krennick do other than deep substrate foliated kalkite

nimble sinew
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lol. His lead grantees ability blocks to all debuffed enemies that are critically hit

fiery warren
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might leave this here in case it's of any help to the OP in writing their farming guide. This is my personal farming plan for after Executor.
It shows what characters I need, and an estimated timeframe to getting them
To be read L to R, with 4 large grid squares equalling 3 months of farming time. Bold blocks on the top row are single refreshed, as I've been successful in farming 5 characters simultaneously with only 1 of them refreshed (to save crystals). The stuff at the bottom is my shopping list.

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nimble sinew
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Ok thanks

fiery warren
nimble sinew
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Well I was thinking of just spammjng aoe’s to just lock down the whole team. My pick would be krennick lead, death trooper for synergy piett for his marked vader and tie fighter because there executor req. the strategy would be to mark down death trooper and then just start spamming aoe’s. Death trooper can revived so piett could get extremely juiced up

fiery warren
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I can't say I've ever read Krennic's kit XD

nimble sinew
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Well the important thing is the lead, but yeah he’s often sighted as one of the worst characters in the game

fiery warren
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no one can be worse or more useless than IG-86 imho

nimble sinew
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True very true

fiery warren
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I've actually had a lot of luck with a Tarkin/Piett duo in conquest

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mark Tarkin, he has massive defense due to his potency (which doesn't decrease with no stamina) and every time he assists Piett, he gains more potency

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so Tarkin would be the "tank" and every time he's hit, Piett gains more TM. Until you unleash Tarkin's nuke and everyone dies

nimble sinew
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Yep tarkin is broken

fiery warren
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I've had this work at 1% stamina against Jedi, Phoenix, Jawas even (just not Inqs, Seps or anyone who dazes)

nimble sinew
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Jeez that’s nuts

fiery warren
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easy conquest tho

nimble sinew
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I gtg my phones going to die

fiery warren
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but it means I can go thru the first 2 sectors rly fast on day 1/2 and save other teams for really tough nodes

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haha we've hijacked this post enough XD

nimble sinew
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lol who cares

red hazel
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@fiery warren Thanks! The reason I have Gar and ISC with the Troopers is that they assist all the time, so it feeds like infinite TM to the actual troopers. They can 2 vs 5 GAS by themselves. You mark one of them, then piett calls them to assist all the time, they generate heaps of Emperor's trap. Once they get low health, they gain DI, and if you have them slow with assists, it can last essentially forever since the TM only goes to the troopers

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I've found that Mara at low gear doesn't do a whole lot for the palpatine team, as in the team can't beat anything additional compared to without her. If you do put her in, low stars and gear to conserve kyros

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Also, i'm 3 months into farming already (slightly different path) and already have my Piett at 350 speed

red hazel
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Proof of concept of the Gar/ISC team

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And here's their use as a counter

fiery warren
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Very interesting, I must admit I don't have them unlocked so I didnt' know about this lineup!

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thanks for sharing

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my Piett's only a humble 273 speed bc I haven't had time to work on his mods yet XD

red hazel
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what's your gg?

fiery warren
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for your perusal

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started this account 2.5 months ago

red hazel
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HDB and Starkiller Bundle?

fiery warren
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yeah

red hazel
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Why relic Cara?

fiery warren
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LST

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I figured if I use it on her, I can use the energy saved to farm for kyros/salvage (light side 7-b) to guarantee I can have all my Executor reqs done by October 15th

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bc if I had to shard-farm Cara too, I might miss the deadline by a few days

red hazel
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Nice, I'm looking at a similar timeline, I started may 5th and i'm looking at getting mine next month

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I would be #1 in fleet every day if it weren't for the LSBs

fiery warren
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the negotiators?

red hazel
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Yeah, just getting destroyed by marauders

fiery warren
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oooooof

red hazel
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The bad batch bundle as well

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I still hit top 20 daily

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only 1 executor in my shard

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so far

fiery warren
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I hope I'm the first Executor in my shard

red hazel
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Dude you're getting 1st

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How are your mods not better

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3x refresh that

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I would love that 300 extra crystals

fiery warren
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I'm doing 3x cantina refresh, 3x normal and sometimes 1x fleet as well

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can't afford a mod refresh atm

red hazel
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You're going to hit a crazy CCB and Bronzium crunch

fiery warren
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that's what the normal energy refresh is for

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datapad salvage on ls-7b for bronzium wires

red hazel
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I just do 3x normal and 3x mod, then occasional cantina

fiery warren
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I do 3x cantina for the signal data

red hazel
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Yeah fair, I've been fine without it so far tbh, but the crunch is coming

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gotta get Piett and Boba to R8

fiery warren
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I figured mods can wait til later, seeing as my characters are good enough for the time being (Mara's fast enough, Vader's dmg is enough and I don't have the other Troopers built up yet)

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I actually spent a lot of time modding Tarkin for the raid tho

red hazel
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Your mod score is about 1.29

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I already have mine above 3

fiery warren
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what does that even mean

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you've been playing for longer and refreshing your mod energy

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of course yours is going to be better

red hazel
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Yeah, but that makes a massive difference in the long run

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Well also I'm kinda obsessed with mods

fiery warren
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what does mod score even mean though

red hazel
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My favourite part of the game

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It's calculated based off the no of mods above 15 speed, and the higher, the more it's worth

fiery warren
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number of mods above 15 speed compared to what?

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no. of characters? or total mods?

red hazel
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It's just pure number that you have above 15

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so large accounts have bigger mod scores naturally

fiery warren
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I have more than 1.29 mods above 15 speed

red hazel
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I don't know the exact formula for it

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But it's not a direct scale thing

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Basically, high number = good mods

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That's your mods

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And that's mine

fiery warren
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Why are you trying to compare us when your account is older and has more time to build up a mod collection?

red hazel
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I'm just saying you might want to divert crystals

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As long as you keep on your executor trajectory

fiery warren
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It's the credits that I'm short on

red hazel
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Mk1 Raid?

fiery warren
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good mods or average mods, I'm going to be steamrolled by the 6m gp accounts in carbonite anyway, so I'm choosing to go all-in on Executor and do more mod refreshes afterwards

fiery warren
# red hazel Mk1 Raid?

I spend it on gear, but now that I have all my Executor pilots at g12 and above, I can afford to buy credits

red hazel
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Good mods and undermanning have got me beating nearly 4mil GP opponents

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I'm going into carbonite 2 next season

red hazel
coarse thistle
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Interesting troopers team

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Is that like the permanent team you’re suggesting for them?

fiery warren
red hazel
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Kinda, it's easy enough to round out later, but it's low kyrotech and pretty effective. In 3v3, you'd split Gar (L), ISC, Piett and then Veers, Range Trooper, Iden?

coarse thistle
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Hm

red hazel
coarse thistle
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That’s team’s pretty inferior to the normal trooper team

rigid hawk
red hazel
coarse thistle
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Nah

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It’s not better than the normal team imo

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Worse vs BKM, DR, etc.

red hazel
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Oh no

fiery warren
rigid hawk
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Whats the weird IT lineup in question?

red hazel
coarse thistle
coarse thistle
rigid hawk
red hazel
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Why would I use troopers against BKM in the first place

rigid hawk
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Just build the normal IT lineup and clear 2 CT3 assault battles

coarse thistle
red hazel
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That's why you build other teams

coarse thistle
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What

red hazel
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Not in Carbonite

coarse thistle
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That was a suggestion

red hazel
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No one has her!?

rigid hawk
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Dont build for Carb

coarse thistle
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That team’s a lot worse than the normal setup

red hazel
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Maybe, but it's cheaper and it's not permanent

fiery warren
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then why bother building them up?

red hazel
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Getting Executor is the #1 priority

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Because it works with the fleet

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when you have very little gear, optimising helps

rigid hawk
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Thats why building normal IT and getting 2 CT3 assault battles is more optimal

red hazel
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That's still an extra 400 kyros gone on DT that could go towards BAM

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Executor takes priority over CT3

fiery warren
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exactly, then build up a team for CT3 after getting Exec

red hazel
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See!?

coarse thistle
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Also imo you should try and find more non-nooch guides

red hazel
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Yeah I know

fiery warren
rigid hawk
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Nooch content is god awful

red hazel
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He's the best for people with zero knowledge though

coarse thistle
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Have you seen nooch play GAC? He does not understand the game

rigid hawk
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Not at all

red hazel
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Songeta is better, but only puts out one early game guide a year

rigid hawk
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He makes you think that cause hes has placed himself as the "new player guy" in the algorithm

fiery warren
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the game isn't changing that much to warrant needing to put out so many new guides a year

red hazel
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He's the only one that makes that content consistently

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Hence, he dominates that demographic

rigid hawk
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Yeah the new player path really doesnt change much

  1. Exec
  2. Build out ITs
  3. R7 Ponchos
  4. Jabba
  5. JML/Leia
fiery warren
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my personal hot take for new players is get Tarkin to relic ASAP to get into a good raiding guild (mk3 tokens), to make your Executrix super fast, and dominate early fleet arena

red hazel
fiery warren
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that's what everyone says

rigid hawk
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Thats my point. The optimal path is consistent across every youtuber, guide, etc

red hazel
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Well no

coarse thistle
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@red hazel can you send a pic of your full list of resources? I can’t see them all on mobile

red hazel
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Some recommend the negotiator

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Early

rigid hawk
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Well you should be buying Nego with GET2 asap

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And side farming GR ships where you can

red hazel
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I'm doing Malevolence instead

rigid hawk
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Bad idea

coarse thistle
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What

fiery warren
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Nego first

coarse thistle
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GR is so much better

rigid hawk
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Malev is mid tier. Main use is to snipe banners on defense.

GR counters Exec and Levi

fiery warren
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counters Exec with Marauder, which afaik Malev can't do

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even tho Malev fleet is easier to build, it's better to buy Nego first with GET2

red hazel
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I ain't farming bad batch

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I refuse

coarse thistle
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You do realize that Malv being easier to get doesn’t make it the better option at all right?

fiery warren
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that's like saying "I ain't farming Jabba, he has so many useless glub shittos I need to bring to relic"

red hazel
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Yep

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Pretty much

fiery warren
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you just gotta do what you gotta do. Need Marauder, get marauder

red hazel
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But it's a 3rd fleet, behind Chimaera and Exec

fiery warren
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Chi is meh these days

red hazel
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Oh well

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I'll live

red hazel
rigid hawk
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If youre going to arbitrarily refuse to farm certain things this is a moot conversation lol

red hazel
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I'm just not a fan of the Prequel farming path

coarse thistle
red hazel
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check pms

coarse thistle
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Oh

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Oh wow nooch is like the only thing on there

fiery warren
red hazel
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My thinking with farming is basically chasing everything that's connected first

fiery warren
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Malev....isn't very connected

coarse thistle
red hazel
fiery warren
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Negotiator is connected to GR, GAS, 501st, Jedi Vanguard for the raid, Lord Vader, then C-3PO is needed for JKL, which brings you to Jabba

red hazel
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Only one other pilot needed and one other ship

red hazel
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I'll have time to get both before then

coarse thistle
red hazel
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Nobody who's starting a F2P account should be farming clones for the raid

coarse thistle
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Yes, and if you’re not then there are better options for GL’s to farm

fiery warren
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my thought was, if I park Exec on defense, I'll need an exec counter fleet for offense. Hence, Nego/Marauder. Then I'll need Conquest teams (Padme, CLS, Ponchos, Enoch) and I'd like to diversify my roster (DR, JKR, GAS) and get a GL (LV first then Jabba will be a month after)

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but it really depends on personal goals/preferences/fave characters

coarse thistle
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I missed that

red hazel
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I'd rather chase Jabba, Leia and Luke all in a row with profundity thrown in

fiery warren
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that's...what I'm doing

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I worked out the farming times for shards and arranged them so that I can have the most farms done in the shortest amount of time

red hazel
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Won't the kyro bottleneck absolutely murder you when going for LV

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Also, nice spreadshee

fiery warren
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thanks

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can't let the fear of kyros stop ya. Every new team needs lots of kyros these days

red hazel
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I know, I just figure if I can avoid them as long as possible, I'll progress quicker in terms of gear

fiery warren
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like AdRad r9 😬

red hazel
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That'll be rough

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I'm lowkey thinking of just doing Jabba to Profundity to Leia

fiery warren
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they tie in nicely with Outrider

red hazel
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True

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And starkiller ish

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They also tie into the Chimaera unlock

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wow

coarse thistle
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Alright well here’s my suggestions, the first thing is to diversify the provided resources in your plan, nooch shouldn’t be anywhere near being most of them (and if I was making this, idk if he’d even be on there), not even throwing in ahanld’s or songeta’s guide for example is kinda wild.
And then secondly, try to keep your personal feelings/bias out of this, like how you’re completely ignoring the GR fleet, and that imp team

fiery warren
red hazel
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Yep, i'll definitely update the resources, I kinda rushed that section. I'm still not sure about the GR fleet, I know it's good, I just find it hella annoying to fight. I was trying to do something a little different with this guide, but it kinda made it's way back to being pretty standard

red hazel
fiery warren
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I guess it's because there can only one "optimal" path, by the definition of the word optimal

coarse thistle
fiery warren
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any thing apart from that becomes suboptimal in terms of farming efficienty (but will prolly optimisse your fun unless one really enjoys being efficient)

red hazel
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The main thing I'm pushing is farming Iden early to get a tie defender running

fiery warren
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I've decided to throw in Enoch early just cuz he's sick

red hazel
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Fair

fiery warren
red hazel
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Also, I was trying to do something along the lines of this dude

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Just getting #1 in fleet and staying there till exec

fiery warren
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if you went straight from Exec to Jabba you could have him done in 9 months I reckon (disclaimer: I made up a random number)

coarse thistle
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@red hazel sorry if I’ve seemed rude

red hazel
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Not at all man, it's just internet

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can't tell tone

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I appreciate the conversation

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Helps me learn

fiery warren
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very insightful too and if I'm ever wrong just call me out 😅

coarse thistle
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JKCK and BKM would be great to suggest as things to build to put yourself in a good guild

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And ofc the rewards from their stuff in rote are amazing

red hazel
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How does the Zeffo and Mandalore thing work?

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I hear they're amazing for kyro

coarse thistle
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Much more enticing for guild

red hazel
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Also, I wanna do a F2P account where I just go all in on mods and nothing else

coarse thistle
fiery warren
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my guild's only getting 13 ROTE stars atm, a little bit far off from Zeffo/Mandalore haha

red hazel
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Try get like 10 mod score at 2 mil gp or something stipid

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My guild gets 21

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I got pretty lucky

rigid hawk
red hazel
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3x mod refreshes?

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Any other advice?

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Like I said before, I love mods

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It's Star Wars gambling

fiery warren
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I can tell you're in a "takes notes furiously" mode XD

red hazel
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Pretty much

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I never talk to people about this tbh, I made that guide based on youtube and theory crafting

red hazel
rigid hawk
red hazel
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Surely that's with LSBs

rigid hawk
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Yes

red hazel
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Also, your piett is 1 speed faster than mine

rigid hawk
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Honestly i should swap one or two of the really good mods off him

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ITs usage has fallen off a cliff for me

red hazel
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How often do you come across gas?

fiery warren
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I breathe it every day

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sorry

rigid hawk
red hazel
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oh man

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ISC and Gar getting no love

red warren
# fiery warren

Why are you planning to shard three different gls' reqs at the same time

fiery warren
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I've seen some fun videos where low-gear Enoch takes out a relic GAS squad

fiery warren
rigid hawk
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Do you have Exec already

fiery warren
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I'll have it in 2 months give or take I think

rigid hawk
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Nice

fiery warren
rigid hawk
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I wish Prof had better ROI. For being the 2nd most expensive fleet its in the Nego tier of ships

red hazel
summer ridgeBOT
red hazel
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and hondo's ship probably

rigid hawk
fiery warren
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I just love sith empire and anything KOTOR related haha

red hazel
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Everything I know about KOTOR comes from this game

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@fiery warren How are you managing your Razor Crest?

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I've been putting GET 3 towards it, not sure if it's worth it

fiery warren
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4 shards at a time :')

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nah

coarse thistle
# red hazel How does the Zeffo and Mandalore thing work?

Basically BKM and JKCK have special missions in ROTE that “unlock”/give you access to a bonus planet when enough guild members beat the mission. (You need to “unlock” this bonus planet every ROTE).

The first 2 stars are replaced with reward box’s for each of these bonus planets, and they reward the entire guild with kyros (assuming you deploy enough gp and whatnot to pass the thresholds).

BKM’s gives 50 of each kyro, and JKCK’s gives 20 or 25 of each, I can’t remember

fiery warren
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better to buy kyros with those GET3 tokens

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or refresh the fleet store is what I've heard

red hazel
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She'll be right

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A BKM farm could be fun

fiery warren
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but I'll have RC at 6* by October, enough to do the first 3 tiers of Exec, the plan is to buy the shard packs to 40 more Exec shards

coarse thistle
red hazel
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I'm probably just going to hoard to 10k right off rip

coarse thistle
red hazel
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Try go straight to 5 stars

red hazel
fiery warren
coarse thistle
fiery warren
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blast them with the death star haha

red hazel
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Bro facts I hate Anakin's Eta-2 with a passion

fiery warren
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I'll be getting mine up slower bc my shard doesn't have LSBs

coarse thistle
red hazel
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And jabba right?

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That will be a handy counter since everyone is going for him

fiery warren
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Does Fennec still counter LV's clones?

coarse thistle
red hazel
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I thought it was

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mb

coarse thistle
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Jabba’s a batch matchup but she’s good vs JMK

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That’s an amazing use

red hazel
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Who's a cheap jabba counter

coarse thistle
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Aphra maybe? I just use new bad batch or Reva

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Well nightsisters are the super cheap option

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But they’re not that great at one shotting him

red hazel
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Troopers can clean him up?

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I think?

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Solo jabba that is

coarse thistle
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A solo Jabba? Yes

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Tbh even at 9mil gp I have problems with countering Jabba without using SLKR

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Im not a great source of info for his counters

red hazel
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Aight

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I'm going to get Executor, do a Chimaera fleet with Iden and Gauntlet (maybe even emperor's shuttle), then finish up some assault battles and get jabba

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With the Malevolence on the side of course

fiery warren
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good luck on your farming journey!

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and MHP and Raasck thanks for your input

red hazel
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Yeah thanks guys

coarse thistle
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Np

red hazel
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Look out for a revised edition of the guide, featuring Geonosians as the main team and fleet, building into home one and then wrapping up with Jar Jar

coarse thistle
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Interesting…

fiery warren
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Jar Jar?

red hazel
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hell yeah

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That's it from me boys, see ya around

fiery warren
coarse thistle
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lol

red hazel
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@fiery warren @coarse thistle @rigid hawk The guide has been updated! Formatting has been improved, and some explanations are more caveated, with a better resource section!

coarse thistle
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Noice

fiery warren
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Cool stuff

silver panther
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That’s likely why he got em there