#does BH sniper team work at low gear

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ivory fiber
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Wanting to omicron zam for this gac, will set up the mods so the turn order works for the sniping strat. Just wanted to ask how viable this team is at low gear if I was hoping to snipe out Malgus, GAS, or stuff like that. Any knowledge or advice on this team is appreciated as I don’t have any experience using them yet.

fleet niche
# ivory fiber Wanting to omicron zam for this gac, will set up the mods so the turn order work...

I guess theoretically gear doesn't matter if the enemy never takes a turn. However, G12 gear adds +20 speed with the right side pieces. You may have trouble outspeeding the enemy at your current speeds. Your Bossk is good, but Greef is too slow and I don't know what speed Zam will be and what she will be sharing. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10EgvVJ_wUa2L0d2Uw3dIjuFGvAwflfhpZy-job9BMZM/edit?usp=share_link to see if you have enough speed. You can see the average speed of toons per GAC division by looking at their best mods on swgoh.gg. For example, the average Darth Revan in Chromium is 270. https://swgoh.gg/characters/darth-revan/best-mods/?s=CHROMIUM

ivory fiber
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After watching a video and using that calculator as reference, these are my new mods and the turn order should go > bossk taunt, zam basic, greef mass assist, bossk mass assist, mando snipe

twilit flax
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Mando looks kind of fast, will Mando gain too much tm and pass Bossk before the second mass assist?

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I don't run Zam, so not sure how that changes things, but I need my Mando to be 15% slower than Greef.

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For me that would be no faster than 244

ivory fiber
# twilit flax

Using the chart linked, it seemed to be okay based on the checks to the right but guess I’ll find out this GAC haha, seeing as yours isn’t reliced either, what kind of use do you get out of the team??

twilit flax
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Yeah I was wrong, since there's a speed gap between Bossk and Greef, Bossk has some time to gain tm so Mando doesn't pass him.

As far as what my team kills, I don't have Zam or Aurra, so that limits it a bit. I also ran a g12 Bossk for awhile, so that limited me as well. While I had the g12 Bossk, I could take some weaker NS and FO squads as well cleanup some nasty toons like Malgus, Malak, and GAS. Pretty much any slow, tanky squad without much damage. Since I use Bossk lead, pretaunts are also a no-go. Now that I've reliced a couple toons, they smoke NS and FO and can take on some slow DR teams without SET. I think JKR should work as well if you outspeed them. Current team:

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Ignore some of my mods. Dengar and Boba need another pass...

naive zinc
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To work against GAS, your Mando needs to be faster than their Rex, cause Mando won't be gaining TM by assists, and that obviously means that both Greef and Mando will scale up in speed accordingly.

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Your Bossk is ok in speed, but Greef and Mando are just too low for it to work comfortably, meaning that instead of being reasonably sure that basically only GLs can outspeed you, it'll always depend on the opponent DR and Rex speed

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The gear you're lacking would help with the speed cause you get a decent amount from the last levels, but still let's say as of now it's a good start but not properly functional

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Somehow the calculator shows that the turns are fine, no idea how but still.
The issue is that Greef would have an effective speed of 320 or so which is below the average DR(330, 350 with Talon) , let alone with Malgus

twilit flax
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Don’t think he’s countering top teams at that gear level. Pretty sure clones and the rest of a sith team can clean him up even if he outspeeds and gets an instakill on GAS or DR/Malgus.

naive zinc
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Malgus is a top team

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So either they don't meet any Malgus, or they need to counter top teams

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But even without Malgus, a standard DR with 330 speed will not be beaten by that team

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Meaning he won't be getting the instakill, Bossk will taunt, then DR will fear everyone and game over

twilit flax
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Yeah. And I’m saying even if he speeds up his Greef and gets the instakill off, he’s probably still dying to the rest of the team.

naive zinc
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Well yea, but there's a big difference between a two shot and a no shot, as of now it's a no shot 😅

Either way, I'd just work on the mods to make sure that at least DR and Bsf are out of the picture, or GAS against that team

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Investing an Omicron and not committing to the team doesn't make sense to me, it's work to get this mods done well.
Obviously that means having them at g12+ too for the 6E ones, but one has to start somewhere

ivory fiber
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I’m in kyber 3 with 6.2 gp so I’m trying to minimize the gear input while maximizing the affect to stretch my roster as far as I can against my opponents who most have 2M gp more. but I agree that it’d be best to get them all to relic. Will definitely be doing greef at least to get his speed up closer to bossks and ahead of most opponents

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Like for example, this round, my opponent doesn’t have JMK so they put CAT with padme and I’d usually solo padme with Malak but can’t cause of CAT, so I’m going to try to snipe CAT out and then cleanup with malak solo, but my greef is slower than their CAT, so we’ll see how much that messes things up

naive zinc
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I thought you were not a newbie, since you mentioned Malgus.
Then all I can say is that the important part of that team is speed, and the CAT snipe is even more relying on that than the DR/GAS ones.

Bossk, Greef and Zam are the crucial ones speed wise and they all need to be above 300, while Mando can be sensibly lower depending on how high your Greef goes, but still not too much to go before fast Rex in case

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Gear helps with that, but we're still talking about +150(+) for 3 units via mods alone