Thronemakers (2026)

[dense orbit]

I see about 1 Ramses per monument (with him has leader, not counting neith packs). It's odd to me that gold boi is 100x more rare. I don't mind the hunt I just had no idea cryptid was like 1/50,000 vs 1 in 50

[clever sigil]

When fiction mimics reality.

[clever sigil]

We can only dream!

[dense orbit]

I also have not seen madjed since the Ramses change either. Which has been about 50 monuments so I guess 50-150 more to go

[slender brook]

If i have to guess/speculate, it's probably gonna be used on a knew future super raid whose name is probably gonna be Gengen-Wer

[torn sand]

maybe next year

[clever sigil]

I suspect the hobbits took my golden amulet and gave it to golum.

I don't have proof though, only the guild can prove it.

Because they drop proofs on the way out of monument.

[lethal totem]

I feel like with how many ppl ask for more detailed patchnotes / more open patchnotes about changes that were made before an event start, we should start a vote from the ORN.

[dense orbit]

This whole conversation probably needs to be it's own discussion thread. And while I don't disagree with the idea behind it. It has vastly taken over.

[lethal totem]

Let's make one

[little loom]

Is there really anything more than needs to be said?

[lethal totem]

Not as far as im aware of, but it probably would take the banter away from the thronemaker feedback.

[dense orbit]

My thoughts on throne makers:

Osiris:

• Final decree - while improved, has much less pact dmg than a celestial 2h staff. Even if it had 120% pct dmg it would be less than celestial staff due to celestial staff being 6 x 1.2 (198% mod). It currently needs something, but ill let the smn chime in, personally i just feel it vastly under performs easier to get alternatives
• I also think the body/legs are very mid in comparison to the other 3 throne makers. Being a GSH boss i think a small amount of magic (100-200 at GF) and pact dmg (10-20%) on each would go a long way to giving them a purpose

Monuments

• They feel great now, i still would like the auto select chest option to be fixed, and possibly a toggle in the loot menu for people who dont want it.
• i would like to not have to look at my map as often, things ive seen suggested (map on top always open, can move while map open, enemies glow green even without map open, memory hunt like compass makrs to point to remaining enemies per floor)
• more types of monuments (hard - disabled chests, greater rewards, endless / increased floor options for more keys)
• i personally think they need their own gear set and anguish option, they arent dungeons and they arent towers, their gear and anguishes should be between the 2.
• event packs feel restricted/limited, they are always 3 mobs and there are only so many combinations. I feel like they used to be 3 event mobs and 1-2 additional mobs for 5 mob encounters more often.

[torn sand]

final decree need more chain chance and more mag considering it's 2h weapon it also need better off hand ability.

And yeah other 2 gear need to be way better if they are meant for gsh

[dense orbit]

Osiris also needs the hydrus passive so he gets stronger when he kills his summons :-p

[torn sand]

since event monument are filled with shades and crypted enemies can't spawn with shade so crypted enemies(event) are more rare than other crypted enemies (general)

[torn sand]

let it be easy my massive skill issue can't handle tougher fight

[dense orbit]

I have no way of knowing for sure, but based on the way odie coded ornates, i assume its the same for cryptids and their roll is first, so it shouldnt be affected by common/rare enemies.

that said a rare is about 1/50, and a cryptid feels about < 1/50,000~1/100,000 based on people only seeing 1 every 100-200 monuments

[torn sand]

it's affected by shade boss

[torn sand]

3(now 2) crypted enemies don't spawn with shade bosses

[dense orbit]

Each floor has 3-6 "rolls" for encounters, and each monument has 11 floors, so thats roughly 50 rolls for packs per dungeons. While cryptids cant spawn as adds with shades or other packs, their roll should be first, which is where i got my 1/50 for the rate of rare (ramses) per monument, as in, i average 1 ramses as a pack leader, per monument, things like seein him with Neith, or an add in a 2nd encounter do increase his odds of showing up.

Obviouslly, if you are running neith your rate of ramses is about 1/2 not 1/50

[torn sand]

in hoa thread we decided that boss cap in event monument is a good solution

so crypted enemies will have chance of spawning more as pack leaders

[dense orbit]

that wouldnt fix anything, you would just have more non boss common / rare encounters

[torn sand]

i would increase odds tho?

[dense orbit]

nope

[torn sand]

eh

how

[dense orbit]

Based on how he coded ornates, i believe it works something like..... if you have a floor with 3 spawns/packs, it rolls each one 1/1000,

if it gets 1000, it spawns a cryptid, (event)
if it gets 900-999 it spawns a rare (event)
if it gets 500-900 it spawns a common (event)
if it gets 1-499 it spawns non events

So it rolls the cryptid first, and decreased the # of boss packs is just gonna shift to other common event mobs

most of the time you are rollling 500-900 and goetting a common event pack (shades/pups/bugs/etc)

[torn sand]

hmm

[dense orbit]

again thats just my best guess on how its coded i dont know the exact numbers

[dark echo]

I like bosses as is(godforging farm) ;p

[torn sand]

i like it to but golden bug is better than golden aura 👀

so i liked that suggestion

I'm simple person

[dark echo]

I've given up on the bug odds are too low. I have moved on to a more utilitarian view of the dungeon as another godforge month.

If i see one I see one, but now I hoard currency and work to godforge my leftover items

[torn sand]

i just gave up so I'm hoping for buff

to regain my motivation

[torn sand]

Gud gud

[untold urchin]

The event monument is still amazing for proof farming

[dark echo]

I have a green rare gold charm, it'd be nice to roll for better but that's not likely lol

[torn sand]

yup it is but I'm not looking for proofs 😔

[torn sand]

atleast you have something

unlike me

who got every event gear aside from amulet

aaaaaaaaa

[dark echo]

Check the tree and cross your fingers they didn't secretly take it out of the pool

[untold urchin]

Got mine this morning from an item chest, its still there thankfully

[torn sand]

likely not because i got bedsheet and ramsee drops from it

I'm waiting for astral tree reset

so i can try again

[untold urchin]

The rarity of the bug is really ridiculous, only seen one so far

[dark echo]

I think that's super funny that people are having better odds in the tree than ever seeing the bug.
Glory to tree.

[torn sand]

somehow ppl agree that bug spawn rate are ridiculous but when i make suggestion and ask for buff everyone say that it's not needed

how is that happening?

howwww

[dark echo]

Okay, I agree that the spawns suck, but i also do believe that the gimmick or rare chase mobs is whimsical, if not equally frustrating.

[torn sand]

for that madjed and ramsee (no t after patch) exist

[stark musk]

Mostly only people who want things changed in the event read/complain in #1478039601544171704

People who are happy might still browse #💡│suggestions though

[dark echo]

If the thing is gonna be so rare, it needs to at least give you the drop upon death.
Nothing is more of a spit in the face than finally finding it only to not get the prize.

[torn sand]

that explains my downvotes or i didn't understand something?

[stark musk]

You asked "How is that happening" so I told you how it's happening lol

[torn sand]

it's guaranteed with max luck now

[torn sand]

i see

[dark echo]

That's at least something, I'm always overlucked trying to get an ornate normal charm.

One day this charm will be considered outdated, but the frustration will be remembered for years.

[toxic fable]

This is exactly why I find it entertaining whenever I see daft takes like "people whined and got it changed" "it should stay rare" etc. I'm now ~175 monuments in and don't have one.

I've run twice as many monuments as the average player will do all month, yet I get to see the majority of them being discovered by astral tree gambling.

[dense orbit]

im at 389 monuments (only 89 since its drop rate was patched) and got mine from the tree.

Im not saying the bug shouldnt be adjusted, i said limiting the number of boss spawns likely wouldnt affect the gold bug spawn rate.

Id be interested to see if odie ever chimes in on what the actual spawn rate of a cryptid is, cause 1/50 for a rare (1 ramess pack leader per monument) seems pretty accurate, I just wanna know if cryptid is really supposed to be 1/500,000 - 1/100,000 , or if maybe a 0 got added/dropped somewhere :-p cause if it were 1/5,000 you would expect a cryptid every 10 monuments not 100 :-p

[dense orbit]

Right at 410 monument, 110 since the drop patch

[echo cypress]

Imagine if they got 2nd chance you died

imagine

[dense orbit]

hitting something with 10k hp for 300k + 5 times and it not dieing....those bugs must be diety ursa

[echo cypress]

heratic 2nd chance ahh bugs

[dense orbit]

ive done all 4 paths, the only item im missing is the mage head so its next on my chopping block once i get to 25 ornate sekmeht adornments

Once you find 1, I swear the drop rate for said item goes up

[toxic fable]

I've been mostly chugging thief path with some mage as well, I don't think it affects cryptid spawn at all since I've never seen a medjed.

[distant silo]

I saw 1 Gilded Kheper so far... With my alt 😅

If I don't get it this month, then there's always the next run of Thronemakers. HP Regen and Dodge bonuses already exist, so there's no FOMO over the scarab here, personally (although it's nice to have both together as an accessory, I imagine).

[tardy surge]

Have we ever seen anything this rare tho? Why? Its not that strong imo but Id like to have two lol.

[distant silo]

I like it. It's new to Orna but I've played many RPGs with similar rare items/encounters.

Someone mentioned they would be interested in 1 rare thing like this for each event and I'm inclined to agree. After enough time, there's nothing to look for with some events. This spices things up.

[echo cypress]

It's fun to chase after rare stuff imo

[stark musk]

Northern Forge tried something different by giving players a rare to hunt for, and as with trying anything new the complaints are endless 🙃

I think it's fun too

[tardy surge]

It is was really strong I get it. But why this item lol. Lets double the stats then okay now this is why its so rare

[echo cypress]

then people will complain that something really good is gate kept by being extremely rare

[tardy surge]

Then it has good reason to be so rare this item doesnt

[echo cypress]

darned if you do, darned if you dont

does it need a reason to be rare, outside of being a golden poop bug? :p

[summer ferry]

I don't really understand why you can roll for (non anguished) event items in the guild that are now easily farmable as anguished items. Now with around 50 ramses per monument. 🤷

[harsh hearth]

Give more rare good chase items

[hazy violet]

Ancient Mimic, for Ancient Mimic Head

Monster, Dungeon Only, Cryptid Rarity, Legendary Drop

[tardy surge]

At least we can name one lol.

[stark musk]

It is kind of funny how the complaints have been split between

• it's too rare to have a unique drop
• the drop should be even better because it's so rare

[harsh hearth]

IMO it definitely doesnt need to be better, but its a nice piece and cool to have something that rare

[lethal totem]

My complaint is:

• New idea and mechanic odie introduces that wont hurt anybody
• Everybody complains

Like it wont hurt we have those rare mobs. Im a codexer as well, if anything they give me something interesting to look forward after maxing out thronemaker.

[toxic fable]

If it is meant to be this rare, exclude it from astral tree gambling. No reason to give it out for free, eh?

[stark musk]

I do agree with that

It being on the astraltree wouldn't have been an intentional choice though, it just blanket includes everything

[toxic fable]

Half of my annoyance is getting 4 gold bugs pre change and seeing the majority of amulet drops coming from the astral tree 🤷

[dense orbit]

i would say 99% of drops were from astral tree up to the patch the other day

[harsh hearth]

I'm 50/50 on that, I dont think the odds are exceptionally high to pull it there, but seems like a better source than the actual grind at this point. Ultimately, I think its great if theres a cool item to reward a deep grind on a specific event that maybe not everyone will get. Its even better when done like this event where there is a more available lesser version.

[toxic fable]

if someone was crazy enough to math the astral tree drops out, it'd still be exceptionally high odds to pull it there relative to the original legendary rarity drop.

Emphasis on someone, I'm nowhere near that math crazy.

[dense orbit]

one things for sure, in 350+ acc chest i saw 0 of them from in the monument

[toxic fable]

I have 4 thor monuments with double acc chests near work now, been plugging away at them and still nada from chests.

Also trex did you have like 0 monuments done before this event? I think it's hilarious you didn't brute force yourself into the monument leaderboard

[dense orbit]

i had like 10 done since the counter was added

i was rank 99 when they added the profile tracking

[lethal totem]

I had like 50 done im at 700 at this point xD

for some reason m just having fun

[echo cypress]

they're very nice to grind, that perfect middle ground between dungeons/towers for me right now

[lethal totem]

no Medjed, no scarab amulets, and no ornates.
Still, having fun. Content is fun

[lethal totem]

I still think HoA movement is a cancer that does not belong to grow in Orna, but its so minimal that it doesn't phase me much

We could have monuments, towers and deep dungeonss overlayed on the world map.

[untold urchin]

That's so interesting to me, considering the movement is like a gameboy game

[echo cypress]

i was here for tower release, what we have now is very nice compared to that lol

[untold urchin]

Just reminds me of playing on a handheld back in my young days

[toxic fable]

The event does have a couple of pain points, but it simultaneously fixed a dozen in other places.

Got all your adorns? Cool, you can grind for ornate adorns. And the godforge auras are everywhere. And you can try for gilded amulets. And you can get free raids. And if your keys are low, just picking key chests can make you key neutral.

Outside of the event: it's now the best time ever in the game to hit 150 with a guild, end of dungeon rewards are superior+ and overlaps the terra event, etc. there are so many things that improved it's hard to list them all.

[lethal totem]

the raids at the end are kinda meh as they dont take my raid loadout (and exist, i hate raiding for a lotta reasons) but i can look over it

[toxic fable]

I just swap to BeoA and it doesn't bother me, but I can see how it'd be annoying for class lines that don't have a convenient setup like that.

I just don't think any existing event has had this much to do; I'm hard in the paint in week 2 and still not really bored.

[untold urchin]

You can be like me and just skip the raid entirely because it uses my tower maluses and I really dont want to reroll or lower my anguish

[dense orbit]

ive gone from 99 to 119 so far, my original goal was just 125, i dont think i have it in me to get 150 :-p, i am at 12/25 ornate sek adornments though so progress!

my real issue...is keys, even picking every key option, im at -400 net keys so far :-p

[spare prairie]

I have enough keys to do monuments all the time

[dense orbit]

i started at 6100 keys, so losing a net 400 is very visible, but im still 'safe' for now

[lethal totem]

i just press all buffs in the universe and seals eventualus.
My problem is that raids are just all the same, no matter what anguish i put it on, and either i get an OK reward for the time spent, or just suffer for crumbs.
Also, getting ornates from raids, especially with anguish, is like gambling at a lottery.
And dont get me started about superbosses like the titans or oillipheist...

Its just a dreadful experience overall. I dislike them even more then deep dungeons, cause deep dungeons are optional, raids are part of every event, and the astral tree doesn't provide enough ornates so i could reliably skip them.

[vital notch]

Isnt terra boost dungeon only?

[proper meadow]

some people like diablo 2. some people like diablo 4

[toxic fable]

I was bored of them til I got an anguished arisen Aaru robe. Understandable.

[toxic fable]

Maybe, I just assumed it works for any eod screen. If anyone knows for sure, I wouldn't mind hearing it.

[dense orbit]

why are accesory stats cut in half for pvp? ive never noticed before :-p

[spare prairie]

What amity do you use?

[dense orbit]

ahh good call :-p

i only think of acc malus for endless

Cuts the ward penalty from -3 to -1 with gilded scarb

[open lodge]

I still need to get an ornate arisen aaru robe. It’s the ornate I’ve been trying for the longest and my luck with it has been terrible.

[weary remnant]

but that's only nominally cryptid. IT appears more than 50% in unthemed horde to the point you actually need to build for it or the immunities prolong your run a lot when t9/t10. I mean i remember when i had to run guivre summon to be able to do t9 dungeons... that's how common it was. So "Criptid" isn't a real gauge of rarity. Rarity is factual: how many can you find if you do what maximizes your chances to find them, per hour? and this gold bug is more than 100x rare than anything else the game ever had

i mean medvedev is even rarer, i am at like 3 gold things and 0 med, but i think these 3 (now 2) ultrarare oppos are biased by path (med more in mage prob)

[stark musk]

You are thinking of the wrong mimic

EXP-Less was talking about the T6 one

[weary remnant]

ah i thought the t9 you need the head for

max luck/xp

[stark musk]

They all drop heads

[weary remnant]

ye i mean the good head

[stark musk]

If you're T6, T7, or T8 that is the good head

[weary remnant]

never hunted for it specifically

now we are doing hundreds of specific content which is the only place we can find a specific guy and i am at 0 med

luckly i don't care about codexing so i won't whine

but it's a change in the game, something we never had before, the idea of this game in gneeral is to farm hundreds of something for the good drop

so as for any other change, i get people can get mad at it

[toxic fable]

Hey at least you are still looking for your first one... I dismantled my first ornate robe in the very first Thronemaker event and have been wearing a Lego quality til now.

[weary remnant]

the event is still awesome overall, my only actual complain is that elysium seals should be usable for something (ideally osiris scroll but it can be something else)

feels fairly bad to have 2, 3, 4k seals you can't use because you tried to farm the raid drops, while people farming for adorns randomly get a ton of useful seals

[toxic fable]

The good news is that you have 2.5 more weeks to farm useful seals.

[jade iron]

Please just finish his codex, you have 3 things left is annoying

[toxic fable]

You can make tons of sphinx scrolls then never run them because you have everything you need from sphinx already. Good times.

[weary remnant]

oh i will farm insane amounts with alts just waiting for ragnarok overlap so 6 summon raids have seals/runes

[toxic fable]

Eww, farming on alts

[weary remnant]

you always need agony proofs in theory, although i admit i have too many scrolls anyway and will never use them all

[toxic fable]

Yeah I have basically summoned nothing since the last +1 proof event, it's going to be a lot of stuff to go through when we get it next.

[weary remnant]

i summoned a lot in jan (a lot for me like 1300-1400 ss) as i needed the new morri AFM stuff for gs

[toxic fable]

I kind of want to drop my lyncuses (lynci?) since I want the newly changed chest, but it's not enough of a want to rush.

[weary remnant]

lyncus was premium for brystle then sekhmet happened

[open lodge]

I mean, I don’t dismantle ornates, so that wouldn’t happen to me.

[toxic fable]

It was the only good ornate I ever dismantled, and also the greatest lesson to stop being dumb and lock what I want to keep

[devout heron]

Well in term or % of active player how much player are saying something ? Because we tend to be more receptive to unhappy feedback and to remember them more

[stark musk]

There are slightly less than 100 people in this thread total, and around 47k people in this Discord server

And just under 5500 total T11 players in Orna

Those are the numbers I have

[distant silo]

It's not as if you're peeking into Monuments to ask for the Gilded Kheper/Medjed then leaving without doing anything else 😅

You're grinding the whole time, right?

[stark musk]

By the way, there are currently 5497 T11 players

If you're T10, hurry up, you could be the 5500th

[spare prairie]

Is there a prize for that?

[stark musk]

No and there's no way to know or show that you're the 5500th player either

[weary remnant]

yes but at this point i wouldn't grind that much them anymore kinda done with what i wanted from them. Got lvl 150 guild, sekhmet adorns, ornates from osiris, and superior+ neith

[spare prairie]

Lame, deleting Orna right meow

[stark musk]

Delete Orna all you want I know what game you main

[devout heron]

So there is almost no one complaining 🍾🍾

I need to hurry, i'm only 242 still a long way to go, unless i use the secret technique

[dark echo]

So at least I know it exists as a recognized sprite

[dense orbit]

They should make it's aura bright yellow and 10x the size so you see it the second you zone in lol

[open lodge]

Man, monumental guild does not want me to get 100 rolls at arisen aaru robe

Still got like 20 or so more refreshes, so not in the red yet, but it’s been more barren than usual, too.

[dark echo]

screen twinkles

[untold urchin]

Great dowsing rod, dowsing rod, astral luck bonus, ornate unfelled concord just for good measure

No drop 😔

[dense orbit]

Did you have auto drop on

Cause it should be 100% with 400% luck

[vital notch]

Its green base currently at least on yaco, should drop every time

[leaden ravine]

Stacked luck so high it went into negative

[tardy surge]

With how rare that item is there a way to make it not be effected by auto drop?

[ornate grail]

Astraltree is a better gamble for it

I'm also wondering if the accessories chest in monuments could work

[untold urchin]

I do but I thought exotic meant it wouldn't auto drop.

[torn sand]

probably but it's more likely for t9

[untold urchin]

I've been getting scarab amulets with auto drop on, assumed it'd behave the same

[tardy surge]

so auto drop on is okay then?

[untold urchin]

I turned it off just in case I see another one

[glossy knot]

The monument accessory chest can- or at least I know I got a normal scarab amulet from one at least so I don’t know why they wouldn’t

[honest bramble]

I know we are mid thronemakers event...but the aaru tunic still sucks.
To improve it a bit, and give it a unique touch: add an equippable skill (like gods of aaru) "brilliance of aaru" 2 turn t.mag+++

Logic behind it:
I mean you retroactively added sharpen III to an absolutely useless beastfelled armor which nobody was using, now its the go to for many melee classed

[lethal goblet]

Tbh

We already have T.magic3 garenteed

Aaru tunic is for summons, so if I were to stretch a skill be added to it, maybe eos blessing, or some form of ponder ( garenteed T.magic2 turn 1 )

But atm aaru tunic is really good budget summon stats+good HP/ward stacking for GSA

[weary remnant]

tunic I fear won't be good but only because GSA prefers to stack def/res and can achieve good amount with AFM/nocturna crest

per se Tunic is decent, just doesn't combo well with the class I think

[ornate thicket]

Every day I'm surprised how merrr just straight up asks to buff his builds, but finds a way to make it look like he asks to fix a bug or rework smth

[honest bramble]

Thats a good one

[honest bramble]

Arent we all?

But obviously - this piece of gear sucks, because valhallans arent gonna wear it

Summoners even more so because of negative def res

So we all see a useless piece of gear

[ornate thicket]

Which is... ok? Not every piece should be meta?

[honest bramble]

I mean beastfelled armor was stupid and useless until it got sharpen III

Not saying meta, but just usable

[lethal totem]

Would be way too good of a world uwu

[honest bramble]

Im not asking it to have super def_res

But as a compromise to have at least some okay-ish function

And beastfelled armor is obviously meta

Its 0 turn sharpen III on summons

Not even like great meditation 3 turns

[honest bramble]

Which brought back actually deity to raiding meta

Raided with a base deity dude yesterday, 360million damage on 1 hit within 6 turns
Edit:with beastfelled armor

Now me asking for a 2 turn t.mag +++ on a semi-usable piece of gear is unreasonable?

[torn sand]

argument going on? 👀

[ornate thicket]

I mean... Surely, if you feel like this, it's good to make suggestions, that's a way to make game better
Just a bit weird for me, especially considering summoners are pretty unique class which can become incredibly good at pretty much every content by just using 1 item

[kindred mauve]

Don't even need it that's just apex % being insane, at al 0 I am able to hit for like 50 mil iirc

[torn sand]

incredibly strong is overstatement

ig

[kindred mauve]

Low agony but yeah, it's pretty good

[honest bramble]

Yes and add sharpen III to that

[lethal totem]

Which item?

[ornate thicket]

HoC

[honest bramble]

I mean even gsh isnt pumping out that kind of damage

360mil on one hit

Im not shitting you

[lethal totem]

With no buffs in the universe will you hit 50 mil at anguish 0 with apex

[proper sonnet]

🐴

[lethal totem]

Video or it didn't happen

[honest bramble]

T.all+++, sharpen III, sharpen II zerk and atk buffs

[torn sand]

with enough als bp is strongest spell ig

because of quadratic scaling

[kindred mauve]

Oh no, I meant I had every buff like t att 1 2 3 shadowveil ext, at al 0 you obviously need that, I just mean when you have gear and high al you don't even need it

[lethal totem]

I can go full zerk and full stack with dara at 127AL and hit 61 mil at best, full glass cannon

[honest bramble]

Add blights from quetz

[lethal totem]

Does Shadowveil make a difference?
What exactly does this buff do for deity?

[honest bramble]

Frosty bacon it was

Ask him

He will confirm

[lethal totem]

Blights will not increase the damage of an element neutral spell afaik

[kindred mauve]

Att boost

[lethal totem]

How much?

[kindred mauve]

Like 15% iirc maybe more

Its just more damage, 2 secs lemme try it on cac

[lethal totem]

That could make it possible

[honest bramble]

Ask frosty bacon

He was laughing himself like "oh new record"

Oneshotting a 25ang amorri

Now compare that to me asking to add a 2 turn t.mag+++

To make a negative defres piece of armor

[lethal totem]

I dont like using excessively high AL players archievements as a justification for buffing the other 99,99% of players.

[honest bramble]

150al

Average al now

[lethal totem]

Excessively high

Average AL in the playerbase of 250 must be 30 at very best

[honest bramble]

Anyways, i see that discussion is pointless

[proper sonnet]

i mean... this isn't even that absurd?

[lethal goblet]

I mean tbh, even if it had something like turn 2 T.magic

It wouldn't define anything for summoners really XD

Given this makes a summon waste 2 turns for T.magic3+your sacrificing a yel slot for this

Which is kinda why it would be generally bad for summoners

[lethal totem]

Providing arguments is'nt useless, except someone just wants to push something at all costs, then yes, labeling them useless is a good plot point.

[honest bramble]

Yep i mean NO gsa will use this armor. Gsa+bene has already low defres

[honest bramble]

You misread

[proper sonnet]

GSH i think can still get it occasionally from hypa, aaru robe does it automagically (hehe), so the only real use of this is probably GS BP or GSA (rhada pact)...

[honest bramble]

I asked to add a spell like gods of aaru

Equippable

[kindred mauve]

Ffs I can't get good enough rng to keep my buffs

[honest bramble]

Not summon using this spell

[kindred mauve]

😭

[lethal totem]

Im not against a better great meditation but the arguments to buff players cause a class hits super hard with literally all possible damage buffs at once is not a good reason.

Just cause its a fun thing to add that would be interesting for builds, that is a good reason

[honest bramble]

God, im not asking to buff any players

[lethal totem]

Mortar or amity?

[honest bramble]

Im simply asking to add an equippable spell to a pretty useless piece of summoner armor

Valhallans arnet gonna use it

Gsa is defres weak with bene

So that negative defres IS gonna hurt

[proper sonnet]

the point that not all gear has to be good has validity imo though, but idk what harm that change to the tunic could even do lol

[honest bramble]

Thats why its unusable

That ward and tons of hp wont help if u get a zerk mob who hits you for 120k

Even with my m build i sometimes get hit on ang 35 for 70k

[lethal totem]

Tbf i mostly see GSA go glass cannon anyway so not sure of the difference that makes. Best builds in the game are glass cannons cause they provide resources fast

[honest bramble]

Except compared to other classes gsa is extremely low damage and slow turn-wise

[lethal goblet]

I mean you can negate the def/res loss with adorns quite a bit

It's still the highest HP chest piece, a stat in which GSA hurts in most tbh XD

It's a budget summon stats/ward stacking piece

If I were to tamper it, it would be to add a ponder2, or eos blessing to it, for summons to use

[honest bramble]

Immortal jewels?

[honest bramble]

Id be ok with ponder II

But equippable

[kindred mauve]

Ok this is the best I'm getting at al 0

Im not spending more time on this 😭

[honest bramble]

Ok look again - gsh isnt gonna use it
Gsh is to 99% raiding class. Negative defres is highly unprofitable, so either menja or fsc

[kindred mauve]

Forgot about mortars shi

Oh well 💔

[honest bramble]

Anyways

[torn sand]

gsh with fsc?

I'm a bit confused

[honest bramble]

🤦‍♂️

[lethal totem]

This seems reasonable, ye

[torn sand]

can ya explain?

[proper sonnet]

having solid def/res helps zero stuff out with a bunch of buffs from hypa

[honest bramble]

Maybe try hitting 250 first plague?

And i said menja/fsc

[lethal totem]

No need for insane DEF/RES if you get T. buffs like GSH.

[torn sand]

heretic robe and aaru one (that give t. all+++) are better

zeroing with gsh

eh

[honest bramble]

Ye this convo is derailing

Ima dip

[proper sonnet]

for damage sure

[torn sand]

in 249 by choice bruh

[lethal totem]

Denouncing other players opinion cause your arguments are'nt good is'nt really nice...

[honest bramble]

To be able to tank 1-2 hits from raid

[torn sand]

Second chance already help in raids

[honest bramble]

Anyways cya, gotta readorn some stuff

[proper sonnet]

we're getting a bit off topic of thronemakers now 😛

[torn sand]

and you have atleast 2 summons too

[honest bramble]

Yep

[lethal totem]

We are talking about a thronemaker armor and its usage on GS :o

[proper sonnet]

it strayed

but back more on the topic, i'd still like to see blessed shield somewhere...

maybe i just wasn't paying attention and it already exists as a follower ability, but it sounds nice

[lethal totem]

I think it exists on the zwei fencer chest from halloween

[dense orbit]

There you go

[proper sonnet]

oops hi thanks 😂

i'm happy now

[lethal totem]

What does it do again? :o

[proper sonnet]

t. def/res^^

[lethal totem]

Nice uwu

↑↑ to those stats

Listening to an AI cover of gragas singing country roads hits hard beeing hyped for my PC to start so i can play lucid blocks

[proper sonnet]

i'm feeding my gambling addiction with eastern masks :p

[lethal totem]

I got a good ornate, now i wait until the event is about to end and invest my tokens into either getting a second one (one crit one raw atk/utility for pet builds) and then pump anything into scrolls i will most likely never use

[proper sonnet]

lol. it's always lyncus and sphinx that i refuse to do...

[lethal totem]

High anguish is always a bit smelly from risk/reward view but those are just no fun doing.

I wish superraids on high anguish were rewarding

You would have to pump the anguish ornate boost to 1% each anguish level and even then it would'nt make enough of a difference, except you have only very few scrolls. But abundance of scrolls in higher kingdoms is never an issue

[brisk patrol]

I'm debating on a 3rd for pure ward lol got 2 180+ debating on aiming for a 195+ filling it with full ornate Ymir adorns and being happy

[molten snow]

Same ha the anti-towerfall raids

[dense orbit]

What you talking about. Sphinx is towerfall friendly

Beastfelled technically is but damn if it doesn't hurt

They aren't stasis friendly if that's what you meant, but that's where amity come to play. Anti sphinx+towerfall dmg

[molten snow]

Anti stasis haha i treat the two as the same

[stark musk]

Boooo stasis

[toxic fable]

One thing I'm starting to dislike about this event is how hard monument buffs call you out. I've been target farming thor monuments for the double accessory chests, and I woke up this morning with 16 hours of thor buff remaining

[stark musk]

Very nice amities though

[dense orbit]

I have 3 Thor at home and 2 at work ....and 0 scarab ever from the chests

[toxic fable]

I'll probably be at those numbers today.

[dense orbit]

We need a Gilded scarab accessory for 100 allegence points ... A hard pity if you will

[toxic fable]

I feel like I've had uniquely bad luck with cryptids. 4 gold bugs with no drops before the change, 2 Ramses before he was knocked down from cryptid... And now I just hit 2 medjeds yesterday. The gold bugs are laughing at me.

I'm up to guild level 142, if I hit 150 before I get a single gilded amulet I will be very mildly annoyed.

[harsh hearth]

The grind is a lot less draining if you don't kill the boss imo

[toxic fable]

Eh, I want spare arisen Aaru robes.

[dense orbit]

This is true. I at the God forge stage so I'm digging deep in my bag to find stuff I should probably GF as an excuse to keep going

[zenith sandal]

Huh the 24 hour shrine cap was removed??

I swear when I hard farmed monuments like half a year ago it was capped at 24 hours?

[brisk patrol]

Probably a bug that got introduced with the thronemakers thingy (more monuments and towers)

[dense orbit]

I had no idea there was a cap before. I've run more monuments this month than ever before :-p

[brisk patrol]

Started at what lvl? And up to what lvl now for guild

[dark echo]

Compare to the other throne shirts

[toxic fable]

Yeah first I've ever heard about a cap. And I've always been a monument fanatic.

Also frick off medjed 🤦

[dark echo]

Medjed summon when

[glossy knot]

I dunno. I see use in PvP 😅 Summoner-esque version of Pumpkinless Chest is neat

And I’ll definitely at least try the meme build of Summoner Swash

Buuuut I do think some chain Chance :^) or Pact Damage or something else to spice it up would be neat

[zenith sandal]

Yeah I knew I wasn't crazy!

Almost 2 years ago lol

[toxic fable]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME. 2 medjeds within 3 monuments.

Why am I so bad at flipping coins 🤣

[glossy hill]

It’s 48h now

I hit it when the monument rework came out and I had a bunch of Vulcans at home

[untold urchin]

Found a gold bug right after this comment. Thx for the luck

[toxic fable]

Hey, I needed that luck.

[untold urchin]

Only ghost gods for you

[dense orbit]

I think 98 or 99? To 122 so far but I never ran 5 an hour for 4 hours straight before. Like 3 total at a time for endless buffs was it

[untold urchin]

Whats your event level at?

[toxic fable]

91 over here.

[devout heron]

65over here and no ghost

I saw all the other but the ghost keep ghosting me

[weary remnant]

no because of damage cap

[torn sand]

isn't that case for many spells?

[weary remnant]

you actually need high def/res exactly so that the tbuffs might make you tank hits that otherwise one shot most people, that's the idea. If you only have mid def/res buffing them still leaves you dead vs a morri and so on (talking agony 30+)

[weary remnant]

not that many, in the sense that BEoA disregards cap completly (towerfall), deity disregards (apex spell being multi hit), att based ultimastrike disregard (3 hits), and hera ara disregards

basically most classes disregard damage cap

[torn sand]

ref do something

that's not right

only quadratic scaling (ig) spell isn't even most powerful

that's just sadge

[weary remnant]

i mean i am al 223 and the more time passes, the more i raid gsh anyway and not gs bp

[toxic fable]

The most powerful spell is the one being used by someone with 200+ ALs.

[torn sand]

from what I've heard gs bp is better than gsh hypa as we progress?

is that false info?

[torn sand]

make sense

[weary remnant]

gs bp improves more but gsh is insanely better

so i guess at al 350-400 bp3 is structurally better? but still not vs high hp

[torn sand]

only in raids right?

how it perform in horde?

[weary remnant]

and at al 223 with bp build i am still glass cannon and i die often, so not good for titans , end of monument and so on

[torn sand]

dgn and tower

[weary remnant]

dgn tower it's gsa

[torn sand]

i see

[torn sand]

oo

[weary remnant]

anyway we are OT this is thronemaker discussion sry

[torn sand]

yup i forgot about it XD

[worthy lava]

Gold bug and other ultra rare will not pop for me. Upto guild level 135 and I have seen the other many times since they upped the rate still rare but I just want to codex the other two

[toxic fable]

Welcome the Gold Bugs Hate Me guild 🤝

[dark echo]

As someone who already wears pumpkinless for the sheer bulk of it I could see that being nice

[glossy hill]

What’s the drop rate supposed to be at max luck?

[ornate grail]

#1478039601544171704 message

[glossy hill]

That’s what I thought, but I was running max luck and always have auto drop off. Even went back to check it was disabled and it was

Guess I’ll bug report it since there’s at least to reports of it happening. Might be the most frustrating bug to encounter with how rare it is

[toxic fable]

Make sure you say that your gold bug is bugged.

[stark musk]

Did Odie ever try and say it was guaranteed at max luck?

I'm like 90% sure superior rarity has never been guaranteed at max luck from a normal monster and people are just gaslighting themselves to believe otherwise

[echo cypress]

bro you're crazy, we're not even close to gaslighting ourselves, you're making that up

[toxic fable]

Nice, I just got gold bug with max luck and no drop as well.

[silver grove]

this is purely guessing but if legendary monster drop luck capped is 20% famed might be 40% while legendary might be 80%

also assuming nothing ever changed since then

[toxic fable]

I'm at event level 100 and about to tick over monument guild level 145 from 126 at the start of the event; i'm starting to turn towards thinking this treasure hunt stuff was a mistake.

[little loom]

Rare is 15% drop chance, so 60% at max luck (120% vs a boss)

[stark musk]

Wait, is that right? Legendary is 10%?

[silver grove]

So for monsters legendary 10% / famed 12,5% / rare 15% / common 17,5%?

[stark musk]

Legendary from a boss (no classline affintiy) is 85%

[little loom]

Oh, I was looking at something else

Rare is 20%, so 80% at max, 160% max vs boss

[stark musk]

That makes more sense, ty

[silver grove]

thank you

[little loom]

I was looking at the weighting used in EoD, chests, etc which is slightly different

[stark musk]

Does being for "all classes" influence that 80% number?

Or is being for/not for your class separate?

Thank you for the answers regardless, that's helpful. I can figure out my question later

[toxic fable]

At this point just push the max drop rate to 100% or pull the bug down from cryptid. It's even more annoying to know that both me and Bordoadas hit the 20% after finally seeing the damn thing.

[little loom]

Nah, “All classes” is exempt from that

[ornate grail]

Can we make that accessory an EoD?

Just for the meme

New quest "kill 50 of those golden bugs"

[lethal goblet]

No one would ever complete it in time

[ornate grail]

30

[lethal goblet]

Even 5 is a high number XD

[ornate grail]

I've killed 2 so far

[toxic fable]

Hey I'm at 5 🥲

[ornate grail]

Or 1

[ornate grail]

Ye just 1

[glossy hill]

Of course I hit the 1/5 roll on my first golden boy

[proper sonnet]

im almost at 11k shades with 6 goldpoobugs

[toxic fable]

It could be worse, you could have failed 4 40%s before that as well.

[echo cypress]

TwTlemon does this for a full time job, TIL

[ornate grail]

I'm always impressed by his allegiance levels

[proper sonnet]

2 charms with 3 of the kills being after the change

[echo cypress]

has to be 90+ for thronemakers by now

[proper sonnet]

i was on monumental for like a month lol

[echo cypress]

and what 70+ before the Exp changed

[ornate grail]

151

[echo cypress]

omg

[ornate grail]

He's onto something 👀

[proper sonnet]

trying to squeeze silk out of this event, but I'm also doing mostly warrior paths (which is a bit better for exp)

[ornate grail]

Go full orn with all the boosters up😂

[echo cypress]

how many normal eyes of sekh do you have TwT?

[ornate grail]

It's even funnier

[echo cypress]

do you prefer TwT or Lemon?

[proper sonnet]

i fed them to avarice, but sekh kills are somewhere around 5.4k

[echo cypress]

omg

[proper sonnet]

no preference!

[echo cypress]

when i say TwT in my head I say Twit

[toxic fable]

Wow. I've been slapping thief path hard and I only have 3.5k sekhmet shades.

[proper sonnet]

i call myself twit all the time, so that's understandable

[toxic fable]

You are an absolute legend.

[echo cypress]

just casually committing genocide on shades in his free time

[ornate grail]

I've normal bogs so it's lame

But I can deal with 6 monuments at Ang 24 in an hour at least so it's about 80m orn average

[echo cypress]

This guy is onto something

[ornate grail]

Glatisant horde gives around 900k

Arisen mammon 700k

[clever sigil]

Wait max chance is double for bosses????

[honest bramble]

There is no way to spend seal of elysium

Add final decree to event shop

[torpid sail]

Anyway to cleanse the Curse of Sekhmet?

[leaden ravine]

cast curse yourself with gear that gives access to it

[distant silo]

Which is only the Arisen Aaru Garb Dynasty thief gear... Unless getting stabbed by the dagger will also reverse it 😅

[stark musk]

It's any of the three thief Dynasty items from the Sphinx

[distant silo]

Oh that's right! I had the wrong thing in mind.

[toxic fable]

After 104 event levels and +20 guild levels for level 146, I finally hit a gilded amulet on my 6th gold bug.

All I can say is please do not ever do this "standard version of the item is stupidly hard to get" thing ever again. Being gut punched by 5 bad rolls on gold bugs is for me the largest blemish on this otherwise pristine event.

[clever sigil]

The grind is real.

[lethal totem]

Solution: add elysium seal cost to mask, insignia and sphinx scroll >:)

[dark echo]

Just lemme buy materials with it or sumthin I dunno lol

[lethal totem]

Way too easy

[hidden osprey]

Instead of using elysium seals, why not erasing beos and summoners from game? 🤔 🤔

[dense orbit]

but then whose gear will diety steal when they want to be more OP

[hidden osprey]

Well i know exactly what to do then

[dense orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/ko-trouble-double-try-to-take-over-the-world-gif-13969299

[worthy lava]

4 monuments/2-3 hours, upto level 137 guild, and STILL no a single sighting of the gold bug or the other uber rare mob (Ramses shows about 1-2 times per monument)

[toxic fable]

In my experience you can expect cryptids on average of once per 20 monuments, with a very wide +/-.

I hit my second amulet this morning, final stats are event level 111 and guild level 147.5.

Complete stats for anyone interested:

Pre-rarity change cryptids: 4x gold bug (0 drops), 2x Ramses.
Post-rarity change crptids: 4x Medjed, 3x gold bug (2 drops).

Event level: 111
Guild level: 126 -> 147

Monument count: 284

• ~% of thief/mage/warrior/beast paths: 70/20/5/5.
• full cleared all thief/warrior/beast monuments/half of the mage monuments, fast cleared the other half of mage runs.
• Always cleared the end raid, received 2 legendary BoGs and a legendary Piob Mior before I saw my first gilded amulet.

I'm going to keep going because I'm still a monument addict, because I feel the need to extract more eyes from shades (how does each shade only have 1 eye? 🤔) and because I'm a moron who changed his middle name to Sisyphus for this event for some ungodly reason.

[worthy lava]

I have been farming the thief for the adornments for the Other Souls....been doing thief as well

Zero Medjed, Zero Gold Bugs, went from 125 to 137 Monuments...I do plan on seeing if I can hit 150 monument guild by end of event to score my first end guild reward

[toxic fable]

If you started at 125, you can easily hit it if you continue your current pace. I'm pushing them a bit less than twice as hard as you by the looks of things, I would have it in a few days if I keep on my current pace.

[solar lotus]

Can you consider excluding non-thronemaker event mobs from thronemaker monuments?
We will get 2 more events soon (balor invades / ragnarok) and I can already imagine that they'll dilute the mob spawn and decrease grind efficiency by a lot

[worthy lava]

the leprichuns already dilute it decently

[dense orbit]

I'd say the cryptid rates are closer to 1 per 100 monuments +- 25. I've seen 2 Ramses, 2 medjed , and 3 scarabs in 400 ish monument.

[solar lotus]

that's why I want them to be removed from thronemaker monuments.
In 2 days 13? more event monsters will be added to the pool which will make grinding painfully inefficient compared to first week of the event.

[elder juniper]

Who cares

[glossy hill]

On the other hand, it’ll make grinding guild exp and PoMs much better

[elder juniper]

Yea i like that thrones have other event mobs aswell

[ornate thicket]

How? Total event mobs % doesn't really change, but the event pool gets diluted

[elder juniper]

I dont think it works like that

It just increases chances for event mobs (less non event)

[toxic fable]

The only thing I've disliked about the chlurichans is that they makes me see fewer arisen Fenrir packs 🤷

[elder juniper]

Yea indeed

[glossy hill]

Don’t think that’s how it works. At least in normal monuments you always get a bunch more event mobs when multiple events are running

[ornate thicket]

Well, we CLEARLY saw the overall amount of thronemakers hordes decrease in the event monument with 2nd event start and, from what I personally saw, the amount of non-event hordes barely changed, so not sure how 4 events at the same time will make it different

[elder juniper]

For me i see much less non event mobs

[proper sonnet]

I would think a decent solution would be to have a set % of encounters in the thronemakers monument be thronemakers encounters, then leave the rest to other events / non event groups.

[glossy hill]

If nothing else, it’ll make it different for non event monuments

[toxic fable]

I kind of wish I would have kept track of my codex kill numbers from just before the side-event started; that would have been some good data.

[open lodge]

Sometimes you don’t know what these shitters can do until you miss an attack and they push your shit in. Today I learned they can take extra turns

[brisk patrol]

You learned what delay strike does

That's technically not extra turns it's just moving your turn back you get it still and probably ended up with 2 turns ina row

Looks like you did actually based on turns in the background

[toxic fable]

Now realize that they can also crit you.

Their damage range has very deceptive reach if you aren't worried about them because they generally die with any aoe. But when you miss and they get lucky...

[open lodge]

I'm just glad I'm on my starting ward build and have been trying to godforge my fey surtr's cuirass because I was not surviving that, otherwise. Heck, as you can see I only survived because of the 50/50.

[open lodge]

Playing skip in 1v1 Uno is identical to taking an extra turn. I actually did look up delay strike after that happened because I had no clue why it took two turns.

[worthy lava]

I know many of us, including myself have vented our frustration not getting the ultra rare mob so that we can experience some Kodak some or get items from them, but there is a huge benefit of this throne makers and the monuments: being able to God forge an insane number of items.

I’m just God forging items because I want to for my other souls in case I want to use them later

[abstract timber]

Closed means locked? Because it has been locked but it hasn't been fixed yet

https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1477065886212034622

Genuinely asking, not trying to initiate anything*

[little loom]

it was locked due to bumping (adding then deleting comments to bring it to the top of the list). locked just disables further commenting

[abstract timber]

Ah ok, perfect then

And sorry for bumping it back then, it was just weird that it hadn't received an answer after +2 weeks, while it remained broken

[stark musk]

I don't think there's a way to tell the difference between a bug report that is closed and a bug report that auto-closes due to how threads work

Actually, (at least on Desktop Discord) I don't think there's a way to tell if a post is closed at all. Reports that seem to have been closed by Odie look exactly the same

[vernal fable]

Yeah, even after Odie posting "closing" e.g. in https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1480651759700541500 I can still send a message

[little loom]

yes, you can always comment on an unlocked thread, open or closed. commenting will re-open it, which should only be done if the issue re-occurs

an easy way to tell if a thread is open or closed is to right click and see if the options available to you say "Open Post" or "Close post"

[stark musk]

Odie, you're a mod, the rest of us can't do that

Ah, we can open closed posts. But we don't see a "close post" option no matter what

Ok, it's a little clunky, but it works

[little loom]

you can close your own posts and re-open any post without being a mod

[stark musk]

Unfortunately the post stops showing up in the sidebar after a certain period without messages (I don't know if it's set to 3 or 7 days). So like my bug report about titan drops not being boosted by drop quality isn't closed, but it also doesn't show on my sidebar.

There's not a way around that I think, Discord's forum channels just leave something to be desired.

[little loom]

it shows for me without issue: https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1472998073973211208

still open

[honest bramble]

Odie

Thronemakers archpath bugged

Cant buy it

https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1482775573351629033

Can you please fix this Odie?

[tardy surge]

please post a bug report im sure it will get looked at asap if it has to do with the store

[honest bramble]

I did

[honest bramble]

Here

I mean i cant spend money on the archpath

Cus of the bug

[dense orbit]

You know what fixes all of these bug report issues...using the built in tags of that channel.

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-ive-come-to-help-help-im-gonna-help-you-i-am-here-to-help-gif-23928093

[little loom]

i should, yeah

[untold urchin]

Well... it seems the balor forces have invaded the thronemaker monument and pretty much took all the spawns

[ornate thicket]

Who could have thought

[untold urchin]

On one hand, this is great for twilightstone farming. On the other hand, thronemaker xp is a lot worse

[stark musk]

The only event where the density of event spawns is complained about

[ornate thicket]

Im sure they are here to make some thrones

[molten snow]

No allegiance for ragnarok? :o

[untold urchin]

Only when it's the main event, not a side event

[molten snow]

We had it for wyrmhunt last month

[robust arch]

Non boss thronemaker mobs seem to be entirely replaced. I havent seen one in 4 monuments.

[untold urchin]

We did huh. Thought I had seen something about it being main event only but can't find it

[little loom]

main event = always gets updated
secondary events: get updated when we can

[cinder sand]

It would be really cool to have the gold bug spawn rate increased and the drop rate decreased, similar to how Ramesses was modified.

[prime lichen]

Ramesses is a bit too accessible now, and Kheper is a treasure mob so that'd undo the intent

[cinder sand]

Prior to the event, I had like, 2-3 monuments. I’m now at 58, not even a sighting.

[echo cypress]

Golden poop bug is a tricky one to catch

same with bedjedhed, had not ran into him yet either

[cinder sand]

Bedjedhed?

[prime lichen]

Medjed

[untold urchin]

Ghost god

[solar lotus]

allegiance xp rate is crushed, adornment grind rate is crushed, monuments monsters replaced by event mobs from no allegiance lv event.
Apparently some people prefer this way because they can grind more pom and monument guild lv, but who cares? I hate this

[cinder sand]

Oh. Another one I haven’t seen at all.

[harsh hearth]

I'm pretty happy to see a bunch of dagda around

[echo cypress]

i think a lot of people care

throne monu should have throne event, regular monu should have all kinds of other event mobs

[little loom]

goal is to make the thronemakers monument only thronemakers content. base monuments can remain all access

[cinder sand]

I care. Codexing is one of the things I love doing, and having things feel inaccessible really kills my enjoyment of the event.

[solar lotus]

yeah, that sounds awesome!

[echo cypress]

not inaccessible, just rare as hec

[devout heron]

i found ONE x) made me very happy

[cinder sand]

As said before, 55 monuments with no sightings isn’t just rare, that’s insane.

[untold urchin]

Think quite a few of us went 100+ before seeing the gold bug.

[echo cypress]

rng be like that

[waxen arch]

I really like this monument event.

[cinder sand]

And that’s somehow acceptable?

[echo cypress]

im 363 kills (plus kingdom ones prior to codex update) on rhada and no ornate SGS, this is the way with orna

[echo cypress]

Yes :3

[cinder sand]

That does nothing but underscore my point, if folks are going over 100 monuments with no sightings.

[robust arch]

Id agree.

They spawn more often in theif path i think

[echo cypress]

may the gold poop bug bless you with many luck

[prime lichen]

Codexing is a niche, and it's not the only thing happening in the game.
Treasure goblin rarity mobs are a common thing in looters, cool to have them.
It's also cool (individual patience determining factor) to have much rarer codex mobs.

Think Pokedexing - you could not fill out an entry unless you travelled in some cases, and the rarity made it such a badge of honour. Really upped the excitement

Sometimes we want things now, which can unintentionally take away excitement

[echo cypress]

Imagine a gold bug badge for having it codexed

[robust arch]

In general I agree with this thought. I like having the rare bug to hunt

[echo cypress]

or a pyre badge

[robust arch]

I just codexed it fully prior to the monuments breaking

[toxic fable]

Not enough spawns? Jail. Too many spawns? Jail. The right amount of spawns? Believe it or not, jail.

[echo cypress]

https://klipy.com/gifs/jail-no

[prime lichen]

The dilution impact definitely documented, I think Odie replied to it already.
We hear you guys on wanting Thronemakers monument to be strictly Thronemakers

[echo cypress]

thanks for listening ❤️

you a real one

idc what purrly said

[cinder sand]

Having different unique supporting mobs for each boss would be cool. Like Neith had Ramesses for supporting mobs.

[cinder sand]

When do you think any sort of change will be made, regarding Thronemaker monument = only Thronemaker mobs?

[little loom]

yes

[jade iron]

Yes what?

[little loom]

yes who?

[robust arch]

Yeah, this was the main thing tbh. Glad its in progress

[echo cypress]

It happened mid monument for me lol

one floor full of juicy dagda, next was all sekh

[prime lichen]

Orna & Hero of Aethric
Thronemaker monuments now suck again, because Burton wants more dagda

[echo cypress]

https://klipy.com/gifs/crying-emoji-7

[toxic fable]

Just rename normal monument mode to Burton mode, that'll fix everything.

[echo cypress]

drel is onto something here

[cinder sand]

Replace all of his gear with Dagda gear and the only abilities he can use are the same as Dagda.

[toxic fable]

Then forcibly change his discord name to Dagdalol. Genius.

[little loom]

discord took our ability to do that away from us

oh wait maybe it's back

[vernal fable]

Thronemakers Monuments are still not Thronemakers only and it looks like some Thronemakers mobs are not spawning anymore

[echo cypress]

👀

We're safe, same name

[untold urchin]

uhh...

[echo cypress]

https://klipy.com/gifs/crying-emoji-7

[echo cypress]

idk what to believe anymore

i will accept my fate

I see it now

[honest bramble]

Final decree buff is nice, but still i dont see it being used over anything else.
Make the off-hand ability to summon khepers 1 turn

[honest bramble]

And add final decree to thronemakers event shop... to have some use for old seal of elysium

[vast bolt]

I was wondering about the missing mobs….

[proper sonnet]

i'm quite glad i bum rushed warrior before ramesses was changed 😂

[vast bolt]

I still don’t have ornate mask at over 800 crafts/drops

[clever sigil]

Finally Odie make thronemakee dungeon only have event mob group! Best thing ever!

[clever sigil]

I got it at less than 100. U need to pray more to the RNG God!

[vast bolt]

I’ve been blessed in other ways so I guess I truly can’t complain

[clever sigil]

Indeed RNG God blessed u on gilded bug!

[vast bolt]

I don’t have that either. I haven’t seen one yet LOL

[open lodge]

Has it been mentioned at all that the raids at the end of monuments don’t count towards the kills for that raid boss?

I kept noticing that my Arisen Ptah count feels like it’s going up too slowly. Turns out, that’s because it only counts the kills I make in the guild fights. So I no longer have any idea how many arisen Ptahs I’ve actually killed.

[dense orbit]

yeah its been mentioned, we shall all have 0 osiris kills and no one has to know you secretly farmed those ornate pieces

[open lodge]

“Secretly” the game has been screwing me over on luck, I just want to know how bad but I’m being stopped from quantifying it.

[glossy knot]

A non-Crit AoE offhand ability would provide more utility than just 1 turn Khepirs and make it good against AoE and Summoning raids

But 1-Turn Khepirs would be better than it is

This is my current attempt and it functions assuming the enemies have less than 30k health for HyPact, I get the proc, and there aren’t more than 3 but it’s a tough sell at the moment

[lethal goblet]

Hypa's dmg is fine

The "AOE" is just bad

1 turn khepers would certainly help, BUT they can still die, it's unlikely second chance will proc in your favor most the time, you'd almost have to buff their SC passive for them to be viable (hypa bypasses their SC/re-raise, that's another thing that hurts their viability over say undead or spooky)

My thoughts on final decree is more so, the weapon isn't terrible, it's just hypa as an AOE isn't good, it's just been forced into more single target over it's reworks

Chain chance doesn't make it full AOE either, so like it's not like it's going to be good for AOE, more so hypa is just good for raids rn, final decree could be raid focused more so

ATP you'd have to make a whole different type of pact to make a AOE pact work cause hypa just isn't even there

[lethal goblet]

Then ofc the conundrum

Where hypa was meant to be good for AOE

Bloodpact for raids

Ironically GSH got worse at bloodpact

And left to only use hydrus pact

But that's off topic so I reframe XD

Besides all the roughness of the event the new monuments are fun to me, I definitely enjoy monuments now more then ever

[glossy knot]

I was saying that in the event of 1-turn Khepirs, GSH now has an option against AoE even if it all hinges on second chance/misses. Especially as it currently summons the whole board (if you manual cast from the stick) and that's still at least better survival than Summon Dead or Spooky Ghost.

However, a full AoE move (something like Despair) instead of Summon Khepirs at all would make the weapon into a decent Summon-Raid tool for GSH because you could use the AoE to clear a board of summons (looking at you, Osiris) and then fire Hydrus Pact at full power on the raid

It's a niche use-case but the weapon feels like it's getting somewhere and just needs push, a Final Decree if you will 😏 I'm not suggesting more damage, just an interesting tool to work with or build around

But props to the man (Odie) for being willing to revise and fine tune the weapon in the first place 😄

[tardy surge]

Are the codex kill count for this raid working for anyone else? Or do monuments not count

[glossy knot]

Currently monuments don’t count

[toxic fable]

If there is someone who is qualified to say the game is screwing them, it was me after getting my first gilded amulet on my 6th gold bug... even after the rate change. And I'm not saying it

If you focus only on the bad luck, you will inevitably start to feel this; consider the ebb and flow of both good and bad luck, at least for the sake of your sanity.

[open lodge]

…you’ve gotten 6 gold bugs, my guy. And the rate change dropped it to rare meaning you could have gotten 100% chance of dropping it by just maxing luck, which is trivially easy to do.

[open lodge]

I’m trying to see the good luck, but literally everything I have farmed to get as an ornate, I have not gotten as ornate. The only ornates I get are ones I have no interest in. To focus on the ebb and flow of luck, there needs to be ebb and flow.

[glossy hill]

Drop rate is 80% at max luck, confirmed by Odie

[toxic fable]

It was very fun to have my assumption of 100% drop rate popped right after the rate change, especially with having to wade through 4 medjeds to see a gold bug at that point.

I saw 7 gold bugs not because I am lucky, but because I ran an absurd amount of monuments by the way.

[dense orbit]

I feel like monster, boss, and raid all having different drop rates per rarity was the point of confusion. That and agony can increase the minimum drop rate, this letting you hit a cap....while torment doesn't have that option

[worthy lava]

Up to guild level 139.5 and not a single med or gold bug… started at Guild level 125

Hell, I found a ornate scarab amulet before I found either of those two mobs so far

and I’ve hit almost 350 normal bugs

[distant silo]

Guys, Thronemakers isn't going anywhere. It will be back probably two more times this year and next year for sure.

It's one of the newer events so I do not see the devs removing it from the event rotation any time soon. Besides, we still need to see that vile goose the storyteller vaguely refers and curses.

All of that to say the Khepers, Scarabs, etc. aren't anything to have "FOMO" over, like most content in the game.

[little loom]

to ease the confusion, bosses just have a 2x luck bonus. the underlying rates are the same as mobs

[keen stone]

I'll take that deal if you guys lose cd

[hidden osprey]

Even summoners have CD get out you bum 🫵

[keen stone]

Wait is there really a summon with CD now?

[distant silo]

Mammoth

Monoceros as well, I think

[abstract timber]

Most of the Terra event summons have CD

Panda, Mammoth, Penguin...

But it's been like that since they came out

[vernal fable]

Nerf CD

[hidden osprey]

Every summon can proc it with spiked pauldrons amd/or greaves

I think

[abstract timber]

Nah, that only boosts it if they already have the passive, same as Gilgas

On the bone mammoth and the others it only works because of that

[distant silo]

Any monster that has Collateral Dmg when you fight it will have it as a summon since they are the same exact "entity."

-# Followers are a different matter, and often have differences compared to their monster version.

[hidden osprey]

Looks unintended

Erase summoners pls

[toxic fable]

Okay I'm laughing my ass off at how quick the redeem code is flashed in the new game announcement, that is really funny to me as someone who instinctually checks the last 3 seconds of the video first.

[leaden ravine]

Dont blink or you will miss it

[distant silo]

Why is there a KELPIE in my Thronemakers monument?! Unplayable.

-# jk, I need skeleton keys

[toxic fable]

He just wants to kelp.

[robust arch]

https://tenor.com/view/dungeon-meshi-delicious-in-dungeon-anime-studio-trigger-senshi-gif-17875746991229941212

[little loom]

kelpie just wants to helpie

[dark echo]

I see no kelpie, i only see key drops

[distant silo]

That's the Griffin pack in towers. This is a water horse far from home, but I will accept the key from its carcass all the same.

[dark echo]

If it drops a key I'll make it bleed

[cinder sand]

Unless it’s immune to bleed.

[toxic fable]

Oh cool, I thought the no allegiance for ragnarok was intended since it was raid focused. This patch update is just a bonus.

Well now, a Ragnarok aura and 2 godforge tools. Guess I'm spending this entire month glued to my phone.

[shy hinge]

If we completed the Ragnarok quest line before today, will there be any allegiance points?

[toxic fable]

"Odie help, the rewards are too good and I have no self control" 😂

[dark echo]

Oh DUH I forgot the quest line lol

[leaden ravine]

Wait for quest event

[harsh hearth]

yeah uh can we get those dogs back in thronemakers?

[vernal fable]

Lmao

[echo cypress]

i was thinking the same thing lol

[toxic fable]

Geppu is about to be Burton'd. RIP.

[echo cypress]

Im a verb now

[toxic fable]

You have been immortalized.

[glossy hill]

I know this is a recurrent suggestion but I think this event perfectly encapsulates why we should be able to select what events are available in dungeons. Just running “event on” right now gets you mobs from 3 different events, meaning there’s no way you can target ragnarok’s

[ornate thicket]

I'm honestly not sure why dungeons are way better source of event exp if it's raid event

[toxic fable]

I haven't tried non-event monuments yet, but I was assuming that may be better if you are hunting specific events.

[fast berry]

Are you referring to Ragnarok?

[ornate thicket]

Yes

[fast berry]

if so it’s probably because the allegiance shop was added by community request and the event hasn’t had its rework yet

So this is just kind of a bonus

[ornate thicket]

And that's very cool and I'm grateful and 2 GMT and good looking aura is nice, but I'd prefer to farm raid event via raids, not dungeons once again

[fast berry]

I’m not disagreeing but I’ll abstain from criticism until the event has its rework in its main yearly run when we can see what direction NF takes it

Until then, extra GMTs and a great aura, sweet

[ornate thicket]

Not a criticism by any means, just a suggestion to make raids exp at least 5 or 7. I can definitely live without this though

[fast berry]

That’s going to be a balance convo on it’s own, the later levels I got to in the cursed event required 400+ exp per level… even at 7 exp/raid that’s rough lol

[harsh hearth]

IMO

1. The price of the PoUA is appropriate
2. Its cool to have items that take multiple events
   3, Rag may be reworked in a way when it is primary to make it more farmable.

But

1. its ~15k raids to get it. I nolifed last july and killed 3500 jorms so proably like 6-7k raids total.
2. 3xp per raid does not feel worth the effort to raid when a dead dog is worth 2xp. I think raids could be slightly higher.

[little loom]

orn and i are chatting about scaling XP with raid HP/tier

[toxic fable]

New Ragnarok idea: Fey Jorm, but comprised of a collage of badly photoshopped-together event wolves. Raid exp will be equal to the number of event wargs used to create the raid, and the drops will just be event wolf materials.

[robust arch]

Enough doggo to wrap around the world so it can eat its own tail.

[toxic fable]

Dogs chase their own tails, so the lore checks out.

[dark night]

Just wanted to say Final Decree feels pretty good now with that last change

[honest bramble]

Now add Final Decree to the event shop

So we could all spend the old seals of elysium somwhere

[toxic fable]

Server patch 1.296

• Added Final Decree to Monumental Guild shop. Purchasable with New Seals of Elysium.

(obligatory /s)

[honest bramble]

I mean....

[toxic fable]

Ew. Monumental guild won't take those grimy old seals, they only want new ones.

[toxic fable]

I tried some non-event monuments because I said above they could be good for event targeting. The result: there are way too many non-event mobs.

I probably need to re-adjust my expectations after Odie gave us Christmas in March with the event monuments.

[ornate grail]

What if you use monument spec?

[hazy violet]

From the Monuments I've documented (As of writing this: 58), I'm getting a bit over 1/3rd of the total mobs are event. (882 / 2,487 Mobs Documented)
That's pretty good imo

[hazy violet]

but you're likely right about it not being good for event targeting though

[dense orbit]

I average 10 rag exp per monument or 30 per horde dungeon

[honest bramble]

Lower Final Decree drop quality to famed

[toxic fable]

Unless something changed, I've only seen others say that Monumental spec doesn't affect monument spawns.

[toxic fable]

That is exactly what I mean: Leaving 80-90% event mobs in event monuments and coming back to reality is hard.

[ornate grail]

Oh ok didn't know, I was asking out of curiosity, I can't use other specs safely 😂

[toxic fable]

TBH it's a pretty logical thing to assume, I tried it in monuments for a while before I saw discussion about where that spec works.

[proper sonnet]

i'm too lazy to read 😂
how much rag exp is it per raid?

[fast berry]

Looks to be 3 right now

Pending this #1478039601544171704 message

[distant silo]

Ourobow-wows!

Get it? You know Ouroboros, but doggos...

...

Jumps out of the window

[lethal totem]

Maybe even a modifier for superraids/anguish level.
Raiding against anything decently strong in high anguish feels super not worth it, this could be a gamechanger

[spare prairie]

Anguish scales hp therefore scales exp

[brisk patrol]

You raid high anguish for the proofs not for the exp it gives

[stark musk]

I think people are getting confused. Odie is talking about Event XP

[brisk patrol]

Yah I'm aware it's event exp and you don't raid with high agony for anything but the drops and the proofs.

[dark echo]

Yeah, there's really no good way to farm the ragnarok exp cuz it hasn't been tailored for this style of event format yet.

[dense orbit]

Best bet is horde dungeons with monument candle and ruairc gear

Even then... I'm only at 109 throne maker so that's a lot of dungeons

[lethal totem]

Could go with base HP - we dont know.

[lethal totem]

The amount of proofs you get for raids taking longer, forcing you to use defensive skills etc, is absolutely not worth it, above the stardrop cheese. Not even closely.

In that regard, hence its not the proofs, that could help counterbalance the steep increase in difficulty from 20+

[little loom]

Scaling with HP effectively scales with anguish - that’s the point of it

[lethal totem]

Im aware!

[lethal totem]

It could have been base HP without anguish multiplier so i rather ask
I know you're smart but autistic analytic brain sometimes needs its fix

[lethal totem]

Only.

[dense orbit]

I just mean I'm a long way from the 170 I would need after buying God making tools

[honest bramble]

Add 5% chance of getting t.mag+++ on arisen aaru tunic

Then it might be a bit more usable

Rn its a negative def/res useless piece of gear

[echo cypress]

swash benefits from the loss of defense, it's not useless ❤️

[honest bramble]

Meant clearly for summoner, or a .... ugh.... beo-mmoner

And well, its class restricted
And swash deity would be using beastfelled armor, so rn - its an unusable piece of armor

[echo cypress]

Swash GSA

ofc

[honest bramble]

[ornate grail]

GSH cause of thief gear

You can't stop my full crit swash gsh

[dark echo]

Physical spec GSH hybrid

Trust the plan

[ornate grail]

I mean I've built my T1 thief with bof and it deals over 50k crit lol, Gsh could do even better with the tbuffs

[echo cypress]

where's that swash summoner at

when we need him the most

i think he left the server lol

[dark echo]

Yeah i mean

Thats a lifestyle choice for sure

[spare prairie]

160 base attack

😹

[ornate grail]

That's my T1 thief so I think we can do that if we consider ALs

[spare prairie]

I mean, we can do anything, the question is what's the point

But that isn't Thronemakers discussion

[ornate grail]

Cause it's funny

[brisk patrol]

It literally is proofs and gear drops that makes high agony worth it. And you're a deity don't you apex 2 shot dverything

[lethal totem]

its not making it worth if as the scaling is too low compared to how much longer raids take

[brisk patrol]

again arent you a deity have you not seen the things abyss posts in ol where hes 1shotting a.mori with more than 170m hp at ang40

and arent you al 100+

so that means apex raiding is your best raiding speed

[lethal totem]

its cool if you have any item in the game at ornate, any adornmate at ornate, perfect amities and that kind of knowledge!
99,9% of players dont. :)

[brisk patrol]

and it takes 5-7 turns to achive that player

[brisk patrol]

the only thing abyss has over anyone else is the perfect amities and the willingness to farm the crazy damage hits

[lethal totem]

the amities do a lot.

And the ornate adorns, and almost perfect 200 equipment is doing a lot too

[brisk patrol]

ornates, adornments and mid tier amities do well enough

you realize abyss is using the new osirus eyes now right?

any quality works

and his weapon adorns are things that the quality doesnt matter with

the amities dont do as much as you think between a ornate amity and a legendary amity youre losing maybe 20% of the damage hes doing max

[tardy surge]

you got a link for this?

[brisk patrol]

the quality of gear for apex raiding only matters for the accessories and weapon the rest could litterally be 70% gear and be godforged

[brisk patrol]

for apex raiding or him being al 100

[tardy surge]

apex

[brisk patrol]

anyways my point is that raiding is the easiest of the 4 anguish paths to do if you either 1 ask for help on how to build or 2 try things out

[toxic fable]

For what it's worth, Abyss is also saying that 80% reraise is more broken than current stasis 🤷

[brisk patrol]

#811254836208074752 message#811254836208074752 message

[toxic fable]

I initially thought reraise was fixed to 50% proc chance like a second chance, but it's still very abusive at 80%. Just not "get to 5k floors in endless" abusive.

[brisk patrol]

this is true but also he was doing it without reraise using mamoth and super tanky stuff

[brisk patrol]

@tardy surge

if youre not in orna legends discord i can swing an invite to you aswell

[tardy surge]

thank you!

[toxic fable]

• Added the ability to choose which events should be active in a dungeon run

I tried to take a break after hitting monument level 150, Odie just said get back in there soldier. 😂

[hasty silo]

Total kc to find
Neith: 3318
Osiris: 1120
Ptah: 1296
Sekhmet: 2992
Apshait: 2988
Kheper: 500
Ramses: 3203
Gilded kheper: 1
Medjed: 4

[dark night]

I found a gilded kheper last week but was so zoned out that I didn't notice until after my summons killed it 😭 still 0 medjed

[worthy lava]

Those are insane odds. And makes me understanding because have yet to find a mej or golden bug and I’ve went from 127 to 142 in the guild so far

[worthy lava]

Hell I’ve godforged over 20 items so far in monuments

I’m

[hasty silo]

I went from 152? to 176, now to just even up seals and make a bunch of scrolls

[echo cypress]

HOLY COW you're a genius, i need to GF so much stuff

[distant silo]

I've Godforged more in these Monuments than I have the past few Wyrmhunts.

If it weren't for the Jewels of Creation, I would personally stop running boss hordes for that event altogether and wait for Thronemakers instead for Godforging.

[toxic fable]

These monuments are a fraction as dangerous as wyrmhunt hordes; I sometimes got smacked for trying to godforge weapons and off hands in wyrmhunt, but it's simple here.

Wyrmhunt has a much higher density of auras though, so it's not simply that this event is better for godforging either. More risk more reward.

[distant silo]

But you can grind through these Monuments much faster since none of the bosses have massive HP pools.

With that said, you can also run them without reducing Anguish/removing Ascension Shackles unless you're already one-shotting Ymir and Friends anyway (which I'm not with Anguish up haha)

[echo cypress]

very nice, i'll try to GF my deity stuff on my beoh when im not playing my RS

❤️

[toxic fable]

"Burton, what class do you play?"
"Yes."

[echo cypress]

Dont check my total HoC uses

[robust arch]

Im over event lvl 120 and ive seen 3 gilded dudes. Basically impossible to farm his drop 😞

[toxic fable]

All you can do is run more monuments. If you aren't going through every monument near you on rotation, you can sacrifice some event/guild exp and run single clear floors to do more spawn checks overall in less time.

[robust arch]

Yeah, Ive done like 400+ monuments

And im still at it lol

[toxic fable]

Not defending the setup either, I think the "it's a treasure hunt" excuse is weak. But I got nothing through my nearly full cleared astral trees and 200 accessory chests.

I've had 8 bugs total now, 4 before the rarity change and 4 after. Maybe 300 monuments total? Your luck is absurdly bad.

[robust arch]

Yeah, I dont mind the enemy being rare, but its pretty rough.

[robust arch]

Tell me about it, I have 5 ornate masks with over 5000 rolls and not a single one is higher than like 184%

Its mocking me

[toxic fable]

Wait, I thought I recognized your name: you are on the leaderboard approaching guild level 150.

The good news is, you are almost certainly hitting 150 and getting the proof of undying allegiance. Here's to hoping your luck evens out a bit by then.

[robust arch]

Oh im 100% getting to 150

I hit 125 a while back and slowed down to focus on farming specific things from raids (with no luck), but this event has had me back on the monument grind

[toxic fable]

That is basically how my monument progress looked before this event started, I was at 126 and over monuments.

Then monuments got a massive upgrade and my inner monument zealot took over. 🤷

[tropic holly]

Just make a character for each class 🤣 jkjk

[robust arch]

Yeah, I was either 126 or 127 at the start

[worthy lava]

lol. Glowing bosses about three per floor. Why waste the opportunity

[manic seal]

I must say the new auto chest selection isn't that great and is a step backward. It basically re-introduced the same problem we had when you could skip them - we are used to mash the quick action button, and when we get to the final door, we end up totally skipping the selection without that forced brake of manually selecting them. I usually end up with skeleton key when I could have chosen something better.

We read all 3 chest anyway. And having the insurance of not being able to blindly skip them felt better, now we have to remember to not smash the button at a certain point.

[dense orbit]

I haven't had a chance to test but I thought it said your selection was remembered per monument, is it not? So if you did 2 3 2 1 2 3 2 1 ....does it not stay for that monument tyoe

I haven't seen anything other than memory hunts since it was added

[manic seal]

On iOS, always the 1st chest is pre-selected every time. And even if it was working like you describe, the chests are randomly generated are they not? so chest 2 at floor 3, will be different in next monument.

[dense orbit]

Chests are not random

They are 100% repeatable all week

Aka realm ore from Vulcan on floor 8 material chest

Patch notes say the selection is remembered in beta

I don't think iOS does beta so that might be why it doesn't work for you

[manic seal]

Yup I know iOS is delayed, but since the auto select just came in, I thought it was the latest thing. If the chests are not random and everything will work, it should be fine then.

[robust arch]

I interpreted this as "if you select the orn chest, then it auto hovers over the orns chest if it shows up"

Because it is doing that for me

Also im not having the same mats on the same floor

(I do have the beta update)

[dense orbit]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/19UK035JJdae3uzeeSDYv6IZfsHcrKn9Fya0LdgC9FUE/htmlview

Think I have 2 Vulcan. Let me check

It definitely remembers your last pick

And mats are not random from eof chest

Basically you run them 1x per week and select each chest, then for the rest of the week it will remember Vulcan floor 2 - auto pick chest 3

[stark musk]

I like that part of it

What really bugs me is this: #1476626297814781952 message

This basically means you should not use the interact button if you're trying to tap quickly

[dense orbit]

I did 75 t4 towers today

Lag on interact button Is killer

Oh your in front of the left most door? How about we send you through door 1 that you already know doesn't work

[manic seal]

someone is trying to get that uncouchable 😄 gl

[hidden osprey]

Remembered across runs??? DAMN OD ON FIREE

[lethal totem]

Also, nobody said how dapper those chest look yet.

So i will.

Good Job Covyn, those are beautiful!

[dense orbit]

I didn't think they needed animations.....but hot dog if they aren't slick.....makes it feel very polished

[lethal totem]

We dont need video games
But god damn are they fun

[sullen flint]

I got one from the astral tree chest on day 2 of the event xD

[dark echo]

It's good animation practice, and adds some charm

[dense orbit]

Now I'm thinking about all the other places they could add it.... Like a God forge animation, I have been spoiled

[echo cypress]

Up 2 GF's so far, thank you, this is so much easier than wyrm lol

[worthy lava]

I just godforged another… scholars chargeblade…t5 but supposedly good offhand for heretics

Working on leveling 2 other items quickly to gf them by end of month

[echo cypress]

Its great for sigilstormflask

er

yeah the sigil one

the one that does more with blights and sigils

[worthy lava]

Yeah, I read :). working on ulsters scepter

[spare prairie]

Chargeblade is for omniflask

[echo cypress]

whatever the flask is

https://klipy.com/gifs/dissolve-1

[ornate thicket]

nukeflask my beloved

[worthy lava]

I'll figure it out later 🙂

[dim fractal]

The funny thing is that you have animations for materials.
The chest open... And... Nothing pops out, and the content was already spoliered (it is always the same, though).
Moreover you make the choice to disable animations in battle, but you get forced animations somewhere else... 👀

[manic seal]

Anyone got more than 1 ornate Eastern Mask? it feels like its 1 per 😄 I got first fairly easy and now crafted about 700+ masks with no luck for a 2nd...

[fast berry]

yeah I have a borderline ornate and like a 198

got both in around 200 crafts if I recall. gotta love RNG

[hazy violet]

well yeah, those are just the battle animations.

[spare prairie]

And one ornate is already godforged

[manic seal]

What the ff.. how many did you craft??

[spare prairie]

1482

[minor mountain]

160 monuments in with 3 gilded khepers and no medjeds 🙏

[distant silo]

I killed the only Medjed I encountered before realizing its loot pool was expanded that same morning to include much rarer items.

And the only Gilded Kheper I've found so far was with an alt 😅

[glossy knot]

Yeah no medjeds yet here either xD

[spare prairie]

-# is it the wrong time to say I had 5 cryptid encounters so far?

[clever sigil]

The worst part, weekly reset and I only have one monument hhahhaa damn it.

[dark echo]

Quit hoggin the poo bugs

[dark echo]

Bruh what is your DROP

[lethal totem]

cries in codexing kit

[dark echo]

I ate them all

[distant silo]

It's another proof, I just can't remember which at the moment

[lethal totem]

I still have 170 i don't know how to get rid of them.
Usually it takes me 30-60 secs to fully codex a raid, and anything else even faster

Those event mobs are the first time in forever i actually think they are faster then just codexing manually cause of safety

[spare prairie]

Torment

[dark echo]

Thats weird

[hazy violet]

The proofs are in Medjed's actual drop table, rather than a part of the guild's mechanic, therefore it has to follow standard drop rules.
Anguish/Despair/Agony/Melancholy/Torment are all Legendary Rarity.

So the same "issue" of Legendary Rarity drops from Monsters being uncommon even at maxed luck will exist with the proofs as well.

[ancient wagon]

medjed drop table is a good reason to just spam codexing kit

[tardy surge]

Amazing job Odie love the new filters

[honest bramble]

Is this beta?

[stark musk]

#patch-notes message

[tardy surge]

I must of just got the update but thats amazing esp if it remembers the one you want to do.

[stark musk]

Currently it does not, reported in #1397573178431111219 though

[honest bramble]

Thanks for the reply

So that means this is not live game?

I kinda dont understand

[stark musk]

It's the public open beta, which is Odie terminology for meaning it's a client update for the live game

So anyone who's opted into the beta can get the updated client and play Orna with it right now

[honest bramble]

Thanks

[hallow kestrel]

On Android, not iOS…

[lethal totem]

Finally, a use for the

[dark echo]

"I dunno what to throw here, just give it something random."

[lethal totem]

Odie having fun is how it should be most of the time

[dark echo]

He must really enjoy putting Curse immunity on literally every equipment then, lol

[brisk patrol]

No one likes to be cursed lmfao

Would be funny if curse worked like unstable channel or whatever it is that mori uses

But instead it's random - specific buff

[toxic fable]

I am conflicted. I received a superior gilded amulet through a random item node in the astral tree, but it feels like crap that the only above standard quality instance of this item that I got didn't come from the event mob that drops it.

[vital notch]

Hey, congrats on at least getting one, i lvled monuments from lvl72 to 131 and i still dont have one, found 4 gilded khelpers with 0 drops before scaran amulet rarity change and 0 since then

[toxic fable]

I had several before getting this one, but I've also gone from monument level 126 to 151. IMO it is still too rare.

[robust arch]

I haven't seen a scarab in probably 250 monuments

At least i have two normal quality amulet, but having basically no chance at a higher quality one does feel bad 😅😅

[dark echo]

I apparently got one a week ago from the mob and had no idea I even fought it cuz I'm assuming I was so tired I didn't see it was a gold bug

[clever sigil]

I don't even have a normal one.

[dim fractal]

Two consecutive ones. Then I stopped.

[brisk patrol]

i crafted like 200 got 2 ornates in the 90% ingame something like 191 and 192% and then dropped a 184%

[robust arch]

Get ornate normal scarab ones from the mage path in the meantime

They aren't as good as the gilded, but they are still good

[clever sigil]

I mean normal gilded scarab amulet. I need at least 2 normal gilded.

[robust arch]

I know, I just meant in case you cant get them, at least get ornates of the base scarab. Theyre still good, just missing the hp regen

[clever sigil]

I have those but the gilded ones give hp regen...

[dark echo]

Still time to get two

[ornate thicket]

Can donate a few

[toxic fable]

When the event ends, I'm going to post an update version of the stats I showed earlier; I'm curious to see how many people got higher quality gilded amulets.

[worthy lava]

Three days left almost 150 monument and still haven’t sent the uber rare medjed once 🙁

[dark echo]

Dang thing is weirdly uncommon

[worthy lava]

In understand that Odie wanted a few rare mobs but I think he moved the decimal place too much

[stark musk]

They're the same rarity as any other cryptids in monuments

Potentially even more common since they're event enemies

[worthy lava]

Definitely not more common….

For the record: overall the event was a good one. Many cool items and personal goals were able to be reached

[stark musk]

Have you been tracking?

I've been trying to pay attention and the easiest cryptids to recognize are the 4 fallen god classline enemies. I haven't seen any of them leading any packs in monuments since Thronemakers started

[worthy lava]

Mentally. I have went from monument guild level 127 to 149 and done all four paths about 30 times each. I have spent the most time with mage path. I have seen gold bug twice ( once mage once thief) otherwise Ramsey shows at least once per monument sometimes twice. Med, never

[stark musk]

Rameses isn't Cryptid anymore, he was changed. Anyway, my sentences were:

They're the same rarity as any other cryptids in monuments.
Potentially even more common since they're event enemies.

As in, they're probably more common than other cryptids are in monuments. Cryptid is the enemy rarity that determines how often they show up, you can see it in the codex.

[worthy lava]

Well … I finally found one so I guess the proper way to summon one is to complain enough and then complement about how everything else works

Used codexing kits after I let it beat on me for about a 30 rounds to get all the spells to make sure that I don’t have to to chance finding a second one

[clever sigil]

7 monument after reset! Here I come!!!!

[worthy lava]

I only had two, but enough for

[snow oxide]

Will the scrolls of dynasty still be usable when the event is over? I’ve been stocking up and want to know if I should summon them all before the event ends.

[lethal totem]

Thronemakers was a blast. Genuenly looking forward to the rerun.

Genuent great job, Odie, and NF, for making this real.

I loved the raremobs, and i can't wait to go for them again. The gear is fun, the adornments are fire.

Monuments are now fun.

[ornate thicket]

+1. Monuments farm was GREAT

[echo cypress]

Monuments were a blast this month, huge fan.
Adornments; great addition

[lethal totem]

Generally nothing to complain that has to do with monuments or thronemaker

[weary remnant]

the event was supersmooth , opened up new avenues in the game (mainly, it made monuments relevant), and overall was a good success (please keep in mind thronemaker was already a very relevant event even before these recent changes, with very relevant dr

very relevant stuff both for the endgame and for lower tiers. Now the ultra rarity thing didn't appeal to me particularly, but it's not like i felt missing out, i just don't care about that specific niche feature

some people do and i get it. But the event was already good and sought after (for aaru robe, sphinx gear, aaru headwrap for BoF and aaru hood for max mag glasscannon). The new introductions are insane, sekhmet adorns are a must for some builds, the other adorns a valuable addition for some other classlines (less broken), osiris drops are a tad meh but the reraising legs surely made a splash in builds. Tons of torment proofs available for people who cared about farming monuments, and end of mon floor chests a massive improvement on rewards from doing monuments. Overall a 9/10+ event imo

[proper sonnet]

I quite liked this one too 🫠

[lethal totem]

How much exp do you need for the next

[proper sonnet]

for 302, it's 914

[dark echo]

You knock that off

[toxic fable]

Lemon you are a beast. I thought I was going too ham at 141 event levels, you literally kept above my highest pace for the entire month.