Thronemakers (2026)

[prime lichen]

Hey gang - I know this thread is started early, but I'm not going to be awake for the launch of Thronemakers.
Why not get it started now, and let folks get a little hype?

This is your thread to discuss everything Thronemakers!
If there's important stuff that needs early tweaks, we're always up to review things.
Let your ORN reps know and they can get a feedback post up for us in #1122705721281220628

Looking forward to reading all the feedback when I'm around properly again tomorrow!
Have fun

[leaden ravine]

If nothing is changed - follower with ||reraised|| ability and item that gives your follower/summons ||reraised|| ability seems really interesting to me.

[stark musk]

We've found the first event where every class other than Realmshifter is at a disadvantage

If you haven't looked at the leaks, you'll find out what I mean in two hours

[leaden ravine]

Really? You mean the new helmet?

[stark musk]

I mean the new enemies

[toxic fable]

I feel like this is the perfect time to brib- I mean, make realmies happy with a surprise Ravage buff.

[stark musk]

But I suspect they may be monument exclusive and that's why their specific ability isn't a big deal

[zenith lava]

Hopefully they can die in oneshot

[stark musk]

Not when they also know Reraise to use on themselves

[zenith lava]

💀

[leaden ravine]

I wonder if ai will be dumb and be able to cast it twice on you

Cancelling it out in the process

[stark musk]

Oh it even has Second Chance
Spoiler: ||https://playorna.com/codex/monsters/gilded-kheper/||

[zenith lava]

Eh

We're cooked if it knows how to use skills properly

[stark musk]

It will be funny if it can appear in dungeons

[leaden ravine]

We could always equip thronemaker item and recast the ability on us, if that will end up that big of a deal

[stark musk]

Luckily Beastfelled got my Melancholy so high that I now DB/redline in non-event dungeons anyway so it's not a big deal

[hidden osprey]

For thronemakers i'd like to see something like a big shield one would more than just one hand to properly maneuver

[stark musk]

There is a big shield with a cool ability but it's an offhand like normal and also tier 6

[hidden osprey]

Sweet! Do we need 2 hands to wield it?

[stark musk]

You can remove your mainhand for the fun of it and pretend

[toxic fable]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-gif-3425669563334334864

[kindred mauve]

The mats are juicy on that 😋

[hidden osprey]

Then i'd have a one handed shield and a free hand

😡

You guys are just hopeless and cant handle true greatness

[toxic fable]

I feel at this point we should just give Golduck a big Havel shield or something, if only to admire his persistence.

[hidden osprey]

Plsss

[open lodge]

I’m pretty sure this’ll be the case, for the most part. They did say the monuments would be class exclusives.

I’m looking forward to being disappointed in not getting ornate arisen aaru robe again

[stark musk]

Just run the Vulcan monument as much as possible this week to improve your chances lol

Although the event rewards layout will likely be different

[open lodge]

Only at 145 Ptah kills right now, though, but that number is going up

I’ve also rerolled 200 of those robes from guild and still nothing

[leaden ravine]

My pfp is eye of Osiris btw. Its a bit funny for me to see the item come to Orna now. And it has bonuses for Valhallan class too.

[torn sand]

i wish instead of 2 beo passive on eye of osiris it should be 1 beo and 1 summoner 👀

[leaden ravine]

Summoners have Souls of Charon for summon stats

[torn sand]

since shade of osiris is a boss for both summoner and beo adorn should have both class bonuses

[torn sand]

iirc they are weapon adorn

armor adorn for summoner could be very useful

[leaden ravine]

Oh yeah, mixed with Rhada adorn. Do summoners not have a single armor summon stats adorn?

Seems like they dont 🤔

[hazy violet]

What kinda real trade-off would that kind of adornment have?

-mana and -mag?

[torn sand]

i just wanted to get a summon bonus on eye of osiris so what is wrong with that?

[leaden ravine]

Summoners are squishy on its own. If adorn is 1% stats and nothing else then it should be enough to offset it i think.

Or -def and -res to make it more risky (for maybe 2% boost?)

[torn sand]

since osiris give gear to both beo and summoner

[leaden ravine]

Nothing, it was just my genuine question

[torn sand]

I'm not sure if summoner have armor adorn

but i could be wrong

[leaden ravine]

I looked up, they do not

[torn sand]

since gear from shade of osiris isn't that good for summoner (if I'm correct) i think a summon armor adorn could be cool

for example 0.5 summon protection

[leaden ravine]

If adorn is really targeted at beo and summoners, then follower act chance is not really needed.

I do not mind replacing follower act or creating a 2nd adornment for summoners

[leaden ravine]

Reraise can be used on summoner and other summons as well. Might be helpful to have 1 for endless for example

(The summon from the staff)

[torn sand]

isn't reraise gear from osiris raid?

I'm talking about shade of osiris

that drop eye

[leaden ravine]

So you want to have a reason to farm themed T6 raid boss?

[torn sand]

shade of osiris isn't a raid but a boss

every shade in thronemaker is boss iirc

i just think that since osiris is for both summoner and Valhallan it adorn should give bonus to both

since 2 weapon that it drop also give bonus to Valhallan

only one giving some summon protection chance

[glossy hill]

Calling it right now: reraise with this accessibility is going to be hell to balance

[torn sand]

so adorn giving both could make it good for both classes

[torn sand]

we are going to see rs with reraise on them

it's scary enough

[zenith sandal]

I mean the Osiris raid has items for summoners that do nothing for Beo

[hidden osprey]

Make reraise revive character, but stunned 🧠

[glossy hill]

We’re going to see literally everyone with it

[torn sand]

rs dodge is worst

[torn sand]

you are cooking

[torn sand]

True

beo should get something from raid

[glossy hill]

Gonna become even worse with the new accessory 😅

[torn sand]

only gear beo can use is those sandals from osiris raid

[torn sand]

yeah but what's stopping other class from using it too

[torn sand]

because of reraise follow spell

[tropic holly]

Me too. Give us unconventional arms and armaments!

[glossy hill]

Nothing, I think it’s going to be crazy strong all around tbh

[leaden ravine]

Right after heartmenders event when everyone has access to accuracy accessory 🙂

[torn sand]

yup it might get nerfed

rs is winner of thronemaker

[glossy hill]

But discord has told me that item sucks and is unusable 😞

[leaden ravine]

So you did not craft even single one?

[glossy hill]

I did lol, I’m just making fun of that rethoric, I actually think the item is pretty good

[open lodge]

I mean, they kinda needed it.

[torn sand]

but dodge accessory and crit adorn and reraise on follower is lil too good

[kindred mauve]

I mean, riftrogue accuracy with cupid kinda just mitigates it tbh

And I assume it's gonna be a pvp only thing really so I'm not entirely fussed, the reraise might be a different story

[toxic fable]

I look at it the opposite way: the follower stats from the new adorn seem close to worthless given anguish scaling on follower stats from gear. The follower act on armor portion is the odd piece that seems to have some utility, perhaps allowing Beos to take more act rate malus in anguish.

I'm honestly looking forward to the bristle replacement more, yay to no -attack stats into hybrid monster.

[open lodge]

6 minutes till my boss asks me why my productivity suddenly shot down

[torn sand]

lol

[toxic fable]

Just tell him you need to save Egypt, they'll understand.

[kindred mauve]

Yo this is crazy

Warrior getting some juicer adorns

[hazy violet]

lmao, Day 9 on the Archpath 😂

I love it

[minor mountain]

alright, I'll engage with the new content en masse next week no monuments within 1k VD

[open lodge]

Oh boy, we needed more

[zenith lava]

Wasn't expecting this

[open lodge]

This might be the first time I unlock an archpath. That circle is kinda cool

[zenith sandal]

Was just coming to mention this 😅

[kindred mauve]

Yall are treating us

😩

[open lodge]

Apparently there’s a new one for summoners

[zenith lava]

Also saw it 👀

[kindred mauve]

Zerk 1 crit 2H power

[open lodge]

But yeah, they announced the raid bosses at the end of monuments in the video

[zenith sandal]

Does it use your dungeon or raid loadout?

[silver grove]

The boss at the end of the monument uses raid gear and is displayed as a raid but the equipment screen before the fight shows the dungeon loadout.

Also seemingly the luck drop rate is applied rather then raid drop chances

[zenith lava]

Dungeon

[silver grove]

Oh and it uses torment anguish for the raid fight, rather than agony?

[stark musk]

Someone didn't watch the video

[zenith lava]

True

[stark musk]

Out of everything in the event, this one was explicitly mentioned ahead of time lol

[zenith lava]

Xd

I mean, i saw it, but i thought was a normal boss and not a raid

[open lodge]

Uh… that archpath unlock says it’s $8, but when I went to buy it, Apple said it’s only $5

[stark musk]

Welcome to Archpaths

[open lodge]

Should I be concerned

[zenith lava]

No, it's cheaper for you

[stark musk]

It's been doing that at least a year

[analog kindle]

not a whole ton of thronemaker bad guys in my thronemaker monument ...

multiple floors so far with zero

[zenith sandal]

Mines kinda overflowing with them 😅

[stark musk]

Almost like it's random :p

[analog kindle]

that's a normal monument though

I specifically chose the thronemaker one thinking it would be packed

[keen stone]

I'm sure that it's already been pointed out that the amount of event mobs in the event monument are way too low?

[leaden ravine]

I did one, had plenty of bosses there

Try doing more, maybe just unlucky

Or maybe i was too lucky

[keen stone]

About 50% of my floors had nothing, and the other 50% had 1 event mob

[zenith sandal]

No it was a Thronemakers monument, I'm pretty sure they don't spawn in normal ones

[stark musk]

It says "Monument of the Thronemakers" at the top in Thronemakers monuments

[analog kindle]

your screenshot literally says it's not

[keen stone]

Also raid boss at the end? Don't really enjoy swapping setups constantly

[stark musk]

There's no setup swapping, it uses your raid loadout

[zenith sandal]

The raid was at the end... Tho

[analog kindle]

I also didn't get any thronemaker xp for killing the raid at the end of the first thronemaker monument

[stark musk]

Ah, the map still says the original monument type

[toxic fable]

I honestly just broke out laughing when the new raid summoned a barrage of snails.

[stark musk]

I don't think raids provide event xp? Do they?

[keen stone]

It uses your tower/ monument anguish level though, not agony

[toxic fable]

The novelty will wear off but this is nice right now.

[analog kindle]

they haven't in the past, but I also didn't get xp/gold/orns like a real raid, so ... ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zenith sandal]

Yeah using my agony raid build with my torment choices definitely threw me off lol

[untold urchin]

Yea first monument was pretty disappointing. Saw 3 shades of sekhmet, 1 sphinx cub pack, and 2 packs with the bugs.

[zenith sandal]

Do you by chance have a monumental candle active?

[analog kindle]

my bad, I see now that the titles don't change when viewing the monument map!

[devout heron]

i received 17 guild monument xp , but no xp for my character if i'm not blind

[keen stone]

Seems like an oversight

[zenith lava]

That was exactly my first floor in vulcan monument beast path

[onyx horizon]

Assuming its been noticed by now but path type determining adorn/raid farming has been nice 😊

[zenith lava]

The other paths doesn't seem to get so much

Compared to beast

[kindred mauve]

Ok... Why does valhallan line have so many bosses, I go do another path and there's just nothing

Oh already been said mb

[untold urchin]

Valhallan is the weakest line and needs the most help

[zenith lava]

[untold urchin]

Also, where's medjed if not in the monument?

[kindred mauve]

And what's khepers 3rd drop, on max luck it just dosent drop

[glossy hill]

The mask having as much base ward as a FSC can’t be intentional, right?

[analog kindle]

I must be extraordinarily unlucky ... an incredibly paltry amount of event enemies in the event monument. To the point where I am on the quest "kill 10 event enemies in event monuments" and I cleared an entire monument and got 9/10 enemies killed

[kindred mauve]

Its only 2% ward per upgrade in blacksmith

Its still alot of ward in the end run (40+ give or take) but not even close to fsc

[silver grove]

Am i looking at a different mask? The one I'm seeing has 1% at base

oh lol fqegg is outdated

[silver grove]

yeah you're right

[glossy hill]

It did previously show 1% in the codex iirc

[stark musk]

Those are very different stats than the mask leaked in the codex

[silver grove]

the item feels like it's trying to be special in every way 😆

[fast berry]

Am I missing where the Elysian crests are used?

[vapid dagger]

Does the mob which drops this spawn in dungeons?

[leaden ravine]

pets and summons it seems

monumental shop

[keen stone]

If we need a consumable to make the event monuments actually worth doing I'm gonna be so annoyed

[vapid dagger]

Is it intended for the monument ending raids to not count towards daily quest?

Also, is the medjed mob in the game?

Sorry, meant ramesses of the east

[toxic fable]

Would it be possible to see an image of how the unlatched Aaru aura from the final day looks on a character?

I'm interested, but have no way to see how it actually looks right now.

[ornate thicket]

So, the only difference between event and non-event monument is raid?

[stark musk]

Yes

[hidden osprey]

Summoners and beos getting that privileged class aura 👀

[ornate thicket]

Hmm, kinda not worth 15 keys imo then, but we'll see

[stark musk]

Osiris is monument exclusive

[toxic fable]

Yeah I started off running the thief path for the adorns, but trying beast path a few times is getting more bosses overall even if less thief.

[molten snow]

Whats the best way to get crit adorns thats the only one thats interesting to me, reg monus?

[hidden osprey]

I think monument raids are using raid loadout for equipments and dg loadout for spells

[toxic fable]

Do the shades even appear in regular monuments?

[manic seal]

jumped into the event monument, picked way of the mage twice and twice got Sekhment at the end. Is that intentional? Picking a specific way does not guarantee the respective raid type?

[toxic fable]

I've only gotten the raid specific to the path I chose every time so far.

[ornate thicket]

Bosses for regular monuments are not aligned with path yeah

[stark musk]

It's supposed to, seems like it rarely doesn't

[molten snow]

Got 3 sekhmet shades in this regular monu

[toxic fable]

Gotcha, so it's the same thing minus a raid boss at the end I take it.

[dire flower]

Trying the path warrior and it's a scam bro, 15 keys with no boss event guarantee.

and this path beast

[stark musk]

15 keys pays for the raid at the end

If you don't want the raid, just run a normal monument

[toxic fable]

Skeleton keys for a raid boss? Inject that straight into my veins

[untold urchin]

Any chance we can get an event pack in towers? Maybe the new boss + golden bug?

[stark musk]

So I'm genuinely pretty sure the Path of Beasts is bugged to have extra spawns

(or Odie adjusted rates in the last 5 minutes)

[stark musk]

Or the others are bugged to not have extra spawns

[solemn sparrow]

New pet is broken for endless no?

[untold urchin]

kinda yea

[solemn sparrow]

At least for rs finally

[manic seal]

or other paths have too little, I got only two or three shades in the mage path the entire monument

[molten snow]

Lol floor 1 of a regular monument wut

[toxic fable]

I don't see it overtaking Phoenix for deity.

[open lodge]

I ran an entire mage monument and saw exactly 2 event enemies. Both in the same fight on the second to last floor.

[untold urchin]

It doesn't work with curse of sekhmt, so just keep that in mind

[stark musk]

Ok maybe Odie did increase rates then. That's Path of the Mage right?

[molten snow]

Well then i got nothing in the next 7 floors

[zenith lava]

💀

[toxic fable]

Oh I think you are right about rates. My first 2 runs were thief and they had nothing like that.

[molten snow]

So prob just some random luck

[ornate thicket]

Yeah my floors are empty 😭

[toxic fable]

I'll need a fresh monument to tes- oh they're all on CD. Welp.

[ornate thicket]

Like... with this amount of event mobs, if I had 0-1 Monuments at my OT, I'd just skip this event - it'd impossible to farm

[manic seal]

seems like luck, I got 0 on first and second floor

[vapid dagger]

Where are the new event mobs though

I don't see them in dungeons or monuments

[molten snow]

Theyre in monuments

Just rare

[vapid dagger]

Ramesses of the east and Medjed?

[molten snow]

oh those ones

Idk

[manic seal]

did you have a specific gear or buff present? I'm getting almost no event bosses 😄

[zenith lava]

Where does the golden beetle spawn?

[open lodge]

Yeah, these event mobs rates need to increase drastically. I didn’t see one in this mage run until floor 8 where I saw some bugs as background enemies

[torn sand]

yeah i couldn't find it too

[zenith lava]

Maybe it's rare to spawn or it's just bugged

[echo cypress]

Yeah initial testing seem that they are a bit scarce, hopefully we get improved rates

[ornate thicket]

Alternative scenario: All the event mobs are in huge hordes in exploration dungeons, but noone ever does them, so it's still unnoticed

[echo cypress]

thief door gave me;

3 thief bosses total
3 or 4 packs with the wasp boys
several non-event floors

[tawdry flame]

Per floor should have 1 shade minimum

[toxic fable]

Also one arch path related thing that gave me a laugh: event monuments don't clear the first day's quest.

[echo cypress]

mine did :/

[tawdry flame]

bro what is this?

[toxic fable]

Really? Interesting. Maybe it was just changed.

[echo cypress]

i did my first monument at around 11:05, and the archpath was completed

ive only done 1 event monument in total for today

[tawdry flame]

1 shade in floor 9 so far. and its ptah.

[toxic fable]

I ran 4 event monuments and it still shows incomplete for me.

[echo cypress]

raid boss and all?

[vapid dagger]

Same here

[manic seal]

the path of the beast new boss seems to have much higher spawn rates than the rest

[toxic fable]

Yup. It's not a huge deal, I'll do a normal monument to finish that quest later.

[upper kelp]

How to summon osiris?

[tawdry flame]

bruh no shades left

my run was very lacking of shades

"first impression lasts"

[molten snow]

Prob just too many monsters in the pool of mage/thief/warrior spawns

[manic seal]

One way is the last floor in beast path

[tawdry flame]

i went thief and ptah showed

it should be sekhmet

and only 1 shade too

[ornate thicket]

Just saw first kheper in monument

[hidden osprey]

Anyone noticing some heavy bias for the mage raid when using summoning scrolls? Just got tons of mages, 1 warrior and no thief

[tawdry flame]

answer will always be the same " It's the first day of the event, stuff happens..."

[open lodge]

Holy shit. I saw the others but only just saw mage

[dense orbit]

im still annoyed that concurance is an arch path

it needs to be reclaim

[tawdry flame]

also did 1, and did not register

[tawdry flame]

twinsss

[dense orbit]

with arch path active, event monunments worked, wonder if its just bugged

[vapid dagger]

I needed normal monument for it to count

[hidden osprey]

Yeah, thats not a problem at all. Im just posting so ppl know its happening. Riftfall also spawned way more charons than anything else for me

[tawdry flame]

mine was more of Rhada. No Charons

[onyx horizon]

Which path has Ptah?

[tawdry flame]

mine had 1 shade

thief

shade of ptah

but he should be mage

[stark musk]

Everyone stop repeating the same issues over and over again please

[hidden osprey]

Also the quest for defeating thronemakers will only accept the non arisen versions apparently

[onyx horizon]

Raid

[dense orbit]

having run all 4 paths for event monument, i gotta say, beast is loaded with event mobs....the other 3 all feel empty

[vapid dagger]

Have any of you seen medjed or Ramesses of the east yet? I suspect they don't spawn anywhere

[tawdry flame]

that should be mage

[onyx horizon]

I was getting osirus, is that a chance to spawn still?

[tawdry flame]

maybe, but it should correspond to the path you picked

and should not be random

[open lodge]

That’s path of beasts. Path of mage has ptah

[stark musk]

Thronemakers feedback

• Given the new event bosses are monument exclusive, their density in monuments seems to be a bit low
  • Except Osiris in the Path of Beasts, which seems much more dense than the others
• Due to raids being slightly randomized this increases the difficulty of farming Osiris, the monument exclusive raid.
• Gilded Kheper, Ramesses of the East, and Medjed appear to be unable to spawn.
  • Per Odie, these three monsters can spawn but are very rare #1478039601544171704 message
• Shade of Osiris is missing skills
• There are initial concerns about reraise being so accessible on followers
• The Eastern Mask is a tier 6 item, however it requires Avalon Ore to upgrade

[onyx horizon]

See im not crazy -_-

Happened twice in a row 😂

[open lodge]

All because you’re right doesn’t mean you aren’t crazy

[onyx horizon]

Felt crazy when it happened twice 🤷‍♂️

[vapid dagger]

The only place I haven't checked myself yet is towers but according to korosei he didn't see medjed or ramesses there either

Checked normal and boss horde dungeons, monuments and beast dens (since they have animal family) and haven't seen even one so far

[echo cypress]

Ravage (off hand skill) also only seems to sometimes hit 1 target, that may also need addressed (sorry)

[untold urchin]

Maybe they were held at the airport by tsa for carrying weapons?

[tawdry flame]

israel got them bro.

their plane crashed.

no survs

[dense orbit]

they had WMD (weapons that might drop)

i really need monuments to have the favorite hotkey

[honest bramble]

We need a Thronemakers Dungeon, 15 floors.

[echo cypress]

please nop

[dense orbit]

i think the floor count is fine

they just need to fix the 3 non beast paths

[honest bramble]

Why no

[echo cypress]

i like the event monuments 🙁

we have a lot of event dungeons lately, and it feels almost copy/paste and doesnt give enough variety

[honest bramble]

Monuments are momumentd

Dungeons are dungeons

[dense orbit]

im okay with events being different and not just another mash bl2 for 30 seconds to claim loot type event

[echo cypress]

event monuments are a nice change of pace and also don't encourage more burn out

[tawdry flame]

wait till they make event explorations

[vapid dagger]

Stop leaking Orna's 2030 content

[echo cypress]

If i can drive some heavy equipment in the mystic caves, 10/10 ill take a deep dungeon event

[toxic fable]

What do you mean by heavy equipment, a Gundam suit?

[dense orbit]

does the gilded kehlper summon drop the new neck?

[echo cypress]

backhoes and bulldozers etc

[vapid dagger]

New neck????

[toxic fable]

What about backhoes and bulldozers that transform into a Gundam?

[dense orbit]

https://playorna.com/codex/items/gilded-scarab-amulet/

[vapid dagger]

Oh, the normal mobs drop them

[echo cypress]

I have yet to see one of the new golden boys

[vapid dagger]

Though I haven't gotten one from the golden kheper

[echo cypress]

only the uh... wasp ones?

[vapid dagger]

Since I haven't seen them as normal mobs yet

[dense orbit]

osiris summoned on in the raid

[toxic fable]

Legendary rarity accessory from an uncommon mob. Good luck.

[echo cypress]

unless there's a mob that is supposed to spawn instead of the summon during a raid

i think the summon thing would be busted if true lol

[dense orbit]

maybe shade of osiris can summon em

[toxic fable]

Now that you mention it... He can.

[vapid dagger]

Shade of Osiris doesn't have any skills

[tawdry flame]

Hi.

[stark musk]

Upvoting your own comment is cringe

[toxic fable]

Oh I meant raid Osiris sorry.

[echo cypress]

what the

[dense orbit]

Nerf RS

[stark musk]

That's the low tier amulet

Not the good one

[echo cypress]

other is 5% dodge iirc

[dense orbit]

you mean the good one that only drops of summons from a raid :-p

[minor mountain]

this one?

[dense orbit]

ya, have you fought the golden scarb outside of raid? or is that accesory chest

[stark musk]

Can't be an accessory chest because it's T9

[minor mountain]

the raid Arisen Ptah is also a world and kingdom raid

[minor mountain]

a heretic never reveals his secrets 🤫 ||it was the astraltree||

[stark musk]

Darn

[minor mountain]

Valhallan you'll probably encounter Osiris

[stark musk]

So interestingly if Odie fixes the three missing monsters that should also improve event pack density in monuments

[solemn sparrow]

I just hit 5 revives against an immortal lord

I love the new pet

[stark musk]

https://discord.com/channels/448527960056791051/1478107101451780356 created

[jagged moat]

Eastern mask is a t6 item that requires Avalon ore to upgrade

[stark musk]

Adding that lol

Now we wait for the day 1 patch that will (hopefully 🤞 ) fix most of our issues

The fact that the Path of Beasts is so dense makes me think that the monument bosses are supposed to have increased spawns but they're just bugged on the three other paths.

[open lodge]

How do you pronounce Apshait? I need to have the proper pronunciation locked in my head now or I will continue to call it “apeshit” perpetually.

[dense orbit]

aps hate

Not gonna lie, I have no idea if it can actually drop the new acc

[tawdry flame]

so how do you defeat it?

[stark musk]

Summons can't drop items

[vapid dagger]

Also, it looks like the monument raids don't count towards daily quest. Probably needs to be fixed?

[dense orbit]

didnt think it could but pressing codex on it shows its drop table

[stark musk]

Some of these things should just be #1397573178431111219

[vapid dagger]

Idk if it's intentional or not

[stark musk]

Odie will tell you in the bug report post 😆

[dense orbit]

the issue is he closes the thread as soon as he replies making it really hard to find it

[stark musk]

It was just pointed out to me that Shade of Osiris has no skills at all

[vapid dagger]

I did say that earlier as well

[dense orbit]

prolly cause https://playorna.com/codex/spells/summon-kheper-swarm/ is a t9 skill and he cant use it :-p

[hidden osprey]

Rip odie 5 whole metric tons of fixes on a monday 🤧

[stark musk]

He scheduled to need to do these fixes on a Monday

He makes the event schedule and plans the events

[dense orbit]

man that new summon gonna be top tier for GSH raiding

[stark musk]

Yep

Already reported plenty of times

[little loom]

the paths greatly influece the chance of spawning mobs with gear for the path. they won't turn off everything else

[stark musk]

Arisen Sekhmet is the raid

[little loom]

she is, yes

[stark musk]

Are the raids also not supposed to be static per path then? That raises a new kind of feedback 😅

Given that dilutes options for farming Osiris, the monument exclusive raid

[little loom]

raid is influenced atm

[stark musk]

Thanks, will adjust feedback accordingly

[ornate grail]

Killed Osiris raid but didn't get any drop or codex entry from her

Plus it's weird cause I'm fighting her at higher ang that my actual agony cause my torment is higher

[vapid dagger]

Maybe the monument raids should drop up to 40 proofs of torment?

[dense orbit]

I'm getting drops but it doesn't count kills

[ornate grail]

I mean I was expecting some proofs as well

Either agony or torment, but something for sure

[dense orbit]

i can see not getting angony or torment since its scroll free raids, but no idea if its intended or not

[open lodge]

Wait, did a patch just release? My game is now using my dungeon loadout for the raid at the end, not my raid loadout

[honest bramble]

Add more event monsters to dungeons

[stark musk]

Still cringe

[open lodge]

People don’t read pins before posting, Knight.

[dense orbit]

yeah it switched from my raid set to dungeon set too

[open lodge]

I preferred raid set. :/

[stark musk]

That was to merrr, because that's what I said to him after he posted his last message and then put an upvote emoji on it

[open lodge]

Oh, fair. Sounds like a merrr thing to do

[honest bramble]

I like my own comment hence the upvote

See? Thats easy

[stark musk]

I think it's fine for this part of the event to be monument focused. It's a GPS game, and monuments are fun GPS content

No need to have everything always be in dungeons

[dense orbit]

merr isnt even playing the gps game

[ornate thicket]

Hmmm, just encountered gilded kheper in monument

[stark musk]

Well he keeps posting in the GPS game server 🙂

-# (Yes, I know why)

[open lodge]

The deduction here is that you dislike all other comments you make.

[dense orbit]

let me know when other paths are fixed :-p

[stark musk]

Just got this in the ORN chat

[ornate thicket]

Oh, so not a patch, but my luck

Would prefer my luck spent on Zagreus Bident but ok

[open lodge]

Not getting an ornate zag bident makes me glad I’m ara

[dense orbit]

its okay i got 3 and never got my legs ><

rng is rng

[ornate thicket]

You need it anyway??

[honest bramble]

Anyways, event boring

Cya next month

[tawdry flame]

hi ara, former epoa

[honest bramble]

(Joke)

Event is quite cool

But it would be awesome if some more stuff from the event would be included in dungeons

Not just sphinx kits and aaru cobras...

[open lodge]

Ah yes, so my sigils can sigil more sigiley

[ornate grail]

It's not all about dungeons lol

Let us grind something else every now and then

Got so tired of dungeons and the full stack of events together in February

[ornate grail]

I mean my Mel skyrocketed but still no thanks

[tawdry flame]

17 is 4 events

but no info if they have dungeon events or something

[honest bramble]

I love dungeons tho...

[tawdry flame]

since thronemakers is out of the question in terms of dungeons because they are Monuments

[ornate grail]

The next events don't have any dedicated dungeon

[tawdry flame]

so I hope Balor, Clauricharns(idk the name), and Ragnarok has no event dungeons that happens.

[ornate grail]

I mean balors kinda does but you know

[dense orbit]

so raids in the even monument definitly scale to your louck unlike regular raids, so make sure you cap your luck in there boys

[open lodge]

I mean, it’s not like you need high luck to get the drops from these goobers.

[dense orbit]

i just got nothing from the raid cause my dowsing rod wore off and my 'raid' set i was using had no luck, doing 100% of dmg on event raids in monument doesnt garuntee their drops

not sure if its a bug or not.... but since 15 floor towers give 1.2x loot...sure would be nice if event monuments gave at least 1x loot

[open lodge]

All the raid drops are famed, right? So you only need like 10% luck to ensure you get them all.

[dense orbit]

final decree is legendary

[toxic fable]

8 monuments and the only golden khepers I've seen were summoned from Osiris. It is looking like it won't be pleasant to find the (legendary rarity) golden scarab accessory, period.

[kindred mauve]

Yeah same I've done 8 and no golden khepers

Imo rate should be increased, especially event mob frequency in the other paths, beasts just dominates it when it comes to event mobs

[open lodge]

Yeah, but it’s trash. The armor is the main selling point.

[toxic fable]

I think it would be smart to raise the rares of the rates on the non-beasts branches. Medjed for mage, golden kheper for thief, Ramses for warrior. Would even things out, assuming Osiris shade spawn rate isn't bugged.

[brisk patrol]

I think that the path choices should be removed and make it so that all monuments have equal amounts of event enemies and be more tailored to the class you use to enter the floor

[stark musk]

Sometimes it's OK for things to be rare and hard to grind for, imo

I do think the shade rates seem bugged though

[dense orbit]

for real i dont need no diety near me ( @merry patrol ) with 10% more dodge

[open lodge]

Gods no. Hard disagree. I use thief for the extra view distance and swap to mage for the combat.

[toxic fable]

Having that accessory and only allowing lucky players to get 2 is a recipe for disaster.

[stark musk]

The event has been out for 3 hours

[brisk patrol]

Sounds like floor one would be thief then the rest would be heretic/mage

[stark musk]

29 days of grinding remain

[zenith sandal]

The accessory also have very little care about quality

There is 0 need for an ornate one

[toxic fable]

I hope it really isn't as rare as I am assuming.

[open lodge]

Sure, but now you’re making it an ass to codex and collect items for other classes. It’s fine the way it is where we can choose.

[merry patrol]

What did i miss 😅

[toxic fable]

Generally with rare stuff, you always see that one guy posting a screenshot on day 1.

[dense orbit]

new 5% dodge accesories...you dont need them, dont worry

[merry patrol]

Dropped by 🤣

[brisk patrol]

Monuments are extremely easy it doesn't take much to setup beo with broooom to wipe everything for you. Or deity to wipe everything via bl2/dts.

[merry patrol]

I'm in class and missed the start of this event 😭

[dense orbit]

100%, im averaging 50-100% event mobs a floor on beast path....and 0-20% on all other

[merry patrol]

I would very much like 10% dodge 🫡

[open lodge]

enters high anguish monument with al0 class

[toxic fable]

Agreed trex, I tried thief path again and it was barren.

[brisk patrol]

Good thing you thought ahead for the fact that your codexing or chasing stuff your class can't use and lowered it to be manageable

[dense orbit]

i was hoping the arisen raids would count for the lowe tier raid quest...regret

[open lodge]

If I’m chasing stuff, I want the high anguish…

[brisk patrol]

Not if you won't be able to use it? There's not much reason to have high anguish on something you can't or won't use

[silver grove]

What if i want an item for the future?

Whenever i decide to play that class

[brisk patrol]

Plus this has equal event enemies making it so that you probably get more for your class but doesn't stop all event enemies from appearing

[brisk patrol]

Demon working tools exist

God making tools exist

And ascending that class exists

[kindred mauve]

Demon costs mats, godmaking is too important to spend willy nilly, if people want the high anguish just let them have the high anguish 😭

[toxic fable]

Small update: event monuments have now counted for the day 1 quest.

[open lodge]

I wasn’t even referring the the item having a higher anguish level, I was referring to the item being easier to get better quality at higher anguish because of the bonuses

[brisk patrol]

The point is that having paths like this makes it more difficult to decide what to run just make them all equal

[open lodge]

It makes it easier to decide what to run, though.

Because you get to choose

[brisk patrol]

No it makes it more difficult because it requires 4 different monuments to decide what's best

[open lodge]

What you’re proposing means we would have to change classes, go to the next floor, change back, clear the floor, change to the first class, go to next floor, change back, etc.

[silver grove]

You're more likely to get the gear you want, how is that worse overall?

[brisk patrol]

Because you're less likely to see all of the event enemies you need/want

[open lodge]

Whereas now I can just “I need stuff from the beasts line, so I’m gonna do the beasts even though I’m mage class”

[brisk patrol]

For example beasts so far has had the best proof rates

[silver grove]

Is this about gear or monument proofs?

[dense orbit]

i dont see why having a 'pathless' option would hurt people who want a specific path

[open lodge]

That’s because they’re currently imbalanced and will be balanced

[brisk patrol]

I doubt it'll be balanced

[open lodge]

Don’t use what’s clearly going to be a modified statistic as an example here

[dense orbit]

i like being able to pick and farm ptah (once its fixed) but i can also see the value in gettin an equal mix of everything

[brisk patrol]

This was going on last event

[open lodge]

Uh what

Last event didn’t have event monuments

[brisk patrol]

Normal monuments

I don't care about the event one specifically

[open lodge]

Normal monuments didn’t have paths

[brisk patrol]

Yes they did what?

[dense orbit]

yes they did

[open lodge]

What? Mine didn’t

[brisk patrol]

They got updated last Monday for roll out

I got mine Thursday

[open lodge]

I didn’t have this path of beasts, path of mages, etc. thing until I ran event monuments today

[little loom]

the monument update was indeed last week

[dense orbit]

then you didnt update your game until today

[brisk patrol]

Beasts had the best proof rate you'd see all of the beastfelled + summoners and achyls enemies in it

[open lodge]

I updated it to do two monuments on Friday

[little loom]

#patch-notes message

[brisk patrol]

It carried over to the new events

[open lodge]

I experienced the new monuments and it didn’t make me pick a path at the start

[dense orbit]

then you didnt have the patch odie linked

[little loom]

you did not have the new experience then

[brisk patrol]

This is factually wrong you ran a 20 floor monument not a 13 floor monument then

[open lodge]

I literally did because I was choosing my rewards each floor and the layout was the new designs.

[little loom]

then you had the path selection too

[open lodge]

They were 18 floors when I ran them

[little loom]

you couldn't have only had part of the update

[open lodge]

Oh… I think I know what happened

[dense orbit]

there is no way you had 18 floor monuments, with no path selection, and with EoF chests

[open lodge]

I started the monuments

Then updated the game

Because I realized they didn’t look updated

[brisk patrol]

So uhm new monuments have been 13 floors and 4 options with new layout and chests from last Monday

[dense orbit]

that would do it, if you patched after getting the monuments you start at floor 1 with no path selection

[open lodge]

But then the question is, what path did it put me into

[little loom]

none

[dense orbit]

'default' from the old style, basically no preference was applied

[valid bane]

Can someone confirm: Path chosen should be static to end raid boss in Thronemaker monument?
Pick Beast path - Final boss is Osiris?

Seeing other final bosses in Beast path, currently looking at Ptah

[dense orbit]

raid is not locked in, its like 90% favored though

[valid bane]

just unlucky then 🙂

[slender brook]

confirm i hve yet to see ramesses and medjad

[dense orbit]

my feedback for stuff that hasnt already beens said:

Change the quest to '5' ornate, instead of 15
Change the archpath from concurance to reclaim

[stark musk]

#1478039601544171704 message

[slender brook]

missed the message sorry

[stark musk]

It's fine, that's why I just linked it

[earnest parrot]

So it seems that the raids that are monument final bosses use your dungeon loadout, which is inconvenient.
I fought Osiris once and I think the fight used my raid loadout. Is he different?
I'd rather have my raid loadout automatically used for all of them

[stark musk]

It was changed from raid loadout to dungeon loadout

I think because summoners were being too buggy? At least from the discussion I saw

[brisk patrol]

How does summoners being to buggy matter on the load out used

[stark musk]

They were getting their Paired Essence spawns from the dungeon loadout no matter what

[slender brook]

monumental spec affects the spawns in monuments?

[stark musk]

Not usually

Given Odie just remade how monuments work, maybe it does now ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[slender brook]

if odie says something i will rush to unlock it then lol

[brisk patrol]

Gotcha well hopefully that can be fixed (even tho I swap from beoh to beoa to raid with 🤮 stasis)

[slender brook]

shouldn't te raids at the end of monuments give proof of felling?

[open lodge]

They’ve been moving away from proofs of felling. A few things still give them, but they want to make those proofs obselete

[slender brook]

oh ok

[devout heron]

i'm not against it epoa

would actually be a good idea

Hi maybe someone already answer this "Old Seal of Elysium" what the use of it ?

[dense orbit]

new pet and summon from monument guild

[devout heron]

Okay ! thanks you very much, and only that ?

[open lodge]

So far only those.

[dense orbit]

you would think it was used on the eastern mask

[feral bough]

Questionable design

[dense orbit]

ive killed a ton of the regular scarab and only gotten 2 amulets....that t9 one is gonna be hella rare

[toxic fable]

0 rare event mobs in 12 monuments. I can already tell this is going to cause a shitstorm

[soft hare]

Can someone ping me when they fix the non-Osiris Shade spawn rates? 😂 so I can feel ok about running non-Beasts path

[stark musk]

Odie has been relatively silent and I hope it's because he's working on that issue 😆

But maybe just wishful thinking

[soft hare]

I guess it'll probably be advertised on a server patch

If/when it happens

[willow nacelle]

Has it already been discussed that the raid at the end of the new monument doesn't use our raid loadout? and if so is that being changed or deal with it type shit?

[soft hare]

It was initially using Raid loadout, but Knight said there was a bug for summoners?

[open lodge]

It did for the first couple hours then got changed for some reason. Definitely in need of changing back.

[willow nacelle]

I am RS

[soft hare]

So they changed it? I think?

[dense orbit]

i have done 27 non gilded scarbs and gotten 2x necks....those gold bois gonna make people start a fire storm :-p

[open lodge]

Yeah, the bug for summoners was that it summoned their dungeon summons instead of their raid summons.

[stark musk]

Yes, from what I can gather a bug for summoners is why it's currently using the dungeon loadout. Because there was a bug with Paired Essence

Hopefully it's just temporary

[willow nacelle]

Okok ty

[open lodge]

Which, to be honest, feels like cutting off your arm for a small bruise

Not that extreme, of course, but why make it so every suffers the downside of the bug

[stark musk]

If it helps, the only benefit of event monuments (at the moment) is the raid at the end. The other floors are identical event/non-event

[vapid dagger]

Are the spawn rates for non valhallan/summoner paths increased yet?

[stark musk]

No

[soft hare]

Before the change, it was showing my dungeon loadout, but the ward and offhand skill were clearly from my raid loadout

[willow nacelle]

It still feels bad to have to change loadout every time if I want to kill the raid efficiently

[stark musk]

Yeah I'm just not running event monuments until it's fixed, since I don't want to grind Osiris myself anyway

[vapid dagger]

I saw someone share a pic of ramesses of the east in general chat. Any of you guys see him yet?

[stark musk]

I'll just bully our kingdom Sekhmet if I want Sekhmet drops

[toxic fable]

If it's the same drop rate for a mob I haven't seen in 12 monuments... Yeah. It's going to be interesting.

[soft hare]

But Anguished drops...

[dense orbit]

im at 16 monuments and nada

[stark musk]

My Torment isn't very high anyway

I mean hopefully it will be after a month of going hard on monuments

[vapid dagger]

I think they should add some other use case for the old seal of elysium though

[toxic fable]

I hope this is just a case of "whoops spawn rates were set to 0". I remember a while ago in wow this happened to some specific rare; I don't even remember which mob or even expansion, just that it was seemingly so rare it was thought to be a puzzle to get it to spawn... Then it got hot fixed in later

[vapid dagger]

It took me 1 hour to get everything those are used for (as far as I can tell)

Maybe let it be freely converted to any of the other 3 seal types?

[open lodge]

I like having rare mobs. Kinda like being excited to see Medea because you have a chance at an ornate harp

[feral bough]

Medea is permanent content though. And I’ve seen several Medeas in a single monument while I’ve yet to encounter a single gilded kheper in the dozen event dungeons I’ve done.

[brisk patrol]

Anyone know if the shades only spawn in monuments or if boss dungeons work for them?

[tawdry flame]

bruh they are monuments exclusive

[brisk patrol]

Doesn't hurt to ask seeing as rn the spawns are fucked

[tawdry flame]

did it hurt? I answered didn't I?

Did you do the thing where you make up fake scenarios in your head again?

"bruh" at the start means bro, followed by the answer to your question.

[brisk patrol]

What is with your hostility today

[tawdry flame]

Regular answer btw.

[brisk patrol]

Again what is with the hostility today

[willow nacelle]

You are not a real person

[tawdry flame]

Yes, I am an AI built by Solana.

[silver grove]

Whatever is going on here, stop it

[little loom]

Timing you out for 24 hours, after far too much trolling of our server. Further behaviour will lead to a ban

[echo cypress]

So event mobs are meant to be sparse in the new monument, if I'm reading correctly?

[willow nacelle]

Gold scarabs rare, everything else seems to show up pretty commonly.

[royal token]

Does reraise affect pvp? Eg if the pet casts reraise and then you die, do you automatically get revived?

[open lodge]

Odie secretly gives reraise to Arisen Morrigan

[echo cypress]

Arisen morrigan uses reraise, Rearisen Arisen Morrigan has Arose, again!

[clever sigil]

Definitely bug in summoner path. I get at least one each floor till this floor 8....

[glossy hill]

I hope the summoner one isn’t the bugged one, the other paths have terrible rates for the shades

[dense orbit]

Agreed... But also, other named can spawn with event adds, Osiris never spawns with event adds

[echo cypress]

Lobster too juicy

[clever sigil]

I hope the other path is supposed to be bugged . I don't even have this many bosses in the other path.

[arctic gate]

Was it the main Guardian, aka you can see it from the room screen? Or was it hidden behind a different main Guardian, aka it was a secondary enemy

[ornate thicket]

Was main guardian

[clever sigil]

What's event adds?

[analog kindle]

even with lots of shades it's still just usually 1 event mob per encounter though

[dense orbit]

Shade of Sekmeht can spawn with scarbs, vipers, kits, etc

[clever sigil]

Ya but at least I get an encounter of boss each floor. The other path don't even have one encounter at all

[clever sigil]

Oh ya, this too....

I hope it's just bugged, not intended.

If it's intended, you need 15 keys each path to get to specific bosses or monster is just crazy.

I get it if it's bosses, but monsters......

[dense orbit]

Just 200 more sekhmet adornment to go then I can switch to neith

[brisk patrol]

Safe to say I have enough of these yet?

[clever sigil]

I only get like 2 shade for the whole mage path wtf...

[vast bolt]

So is this guy gonna beat me up?

[brisk patrol]

He's not bad for stasis

[clever sigil]

If you can kill the tower boss, u can kill it.

[smoky gorge]

This event makes me feel that Monuments are in an awkward spot. As a Gil main, I want to tailor my anguish path choices in towers to a chained shield build, but use full floor aoe with more offensive equipment for Monuments since they should be easier (theoretically)

[toxic fable]

Soooooo... any sightings on those rare mobs yet? 👀

[jade iron]

Raids regens HP even if they have Curse of Sekhmet, and 11,960 is the dmg with +400% Status Effect Dmg

[vast bolt]

I second yours.

[clever sigil]

I main mage and I hate it hahahaha

[fast berry]

Event mob density in the event monuments seem eh compared to before (doing valhallan path) seeing lots of encounters with only 1 event mob which makes farming proofs of monument and event exp much more of a pain

[clever sigil]

This is common, because u are used to last month event. Before that, it's same low proof. wait till the next event out, u will get more from the normal monument.

[keen stone]

Ok so the raid now uses your tower layout instead of raid layout, where before it used raid layout but monument/tower anguish path choices, in the content that uses your dungeon layout in the tower/monument anguish path? Got it 👍

[leaden ravine]

Its dungeon loadout for me for last floor raid

[keen stone]

Oh it is dungeon layout...it was honestly better when it used raid layout. Ideally monuments would use tower layout except for the last floor of the event ones where it should use agony and raid layout

[leaden ravine]

I personally use a different class for raids, so i set dungeon loadout of that class to raiding gear. You can do it too if you use different classes.

[keen stone]

Ok, I personally don't

[leaden ravine]

But i agree, currently its a bit odd to fight a raid with torment anguish choices and dungeon loadout. Although fighting a titan is somewhat simular.

[dense orbit]

so im at 16 beast path, and 12 non beast paths, if i had to guess the golden scarab only shows up on non beast path (currently) but i have yet to see it

[brisk patrol]

Yah knight said last he saw something about a bug with summoners is why it was changed

And It should use torment all the way through no reason it should change for the last floor

[brisk patrol]

Try slamming heretic/gilga path then? Thief already dodge to much don't need more

[dense orbit]

ive been trying to do 1x of each path per monument, waiting on thor to finish 4x war path

[brisk patrol]

ohhh you're doing all 4 factions for each path

Then again for the next path

[dense orbit]

yeah, just wondering if maybe scarab only spawns on one specific map/path/monument similar to the vulcan chest on floor 7

[clever sigil]

Try doing normal monument to see whether the scarab appears or not.

[noble bison]

Can I summon Osiris with Dynasty scroll?

And how can I find gilden scarab + the new ghost mob that drop bedsheet?

[hasty silo]

Not sure about the raid but the new mobs are all supposed to be in monuments, 3 of them are just really rare

[toxic fable]

IT EXISTS

[hasty silo]

I still haven't seen the new t10 and t9 mobs

Which monument/path

[toxic fable]

Vulcan beast path, no idea if that matters

[keen stone]

It's a raid, it should use raid anguish path and loadout

[toxic fable]

No accessory drop of course

[hasty silo]

It's legendary rarity, the t6 took 20 kills for me

[toxic fable]

About 20 monuments to see it once and I think I was still lucky compared to others. This... Is going to be a grind.

[brisk patrol]

A titan is the equivalent to a raid and uses torment so why should it be any different

Tbh towers and monuments should use tower load out

[hasty silo]

1 in almost 250 floors is definitely a grind, plus the t10s

[clever sigil]

Shade of Osiris exist with other monsters!!!!

[noble bison]

don't forget to codex that

[toxic fable]

Too late, he ded

I'll see another one in 9 days, I'll remember then 🙃

[noble bison]

I still haven't encounter him, and this one https://playorna.com/codex/monsters/medjed/

[toxic fable]

Also it looks like thief path is fixed?

[hasty silo]

You've seen ramesses?

[toxic fable]

Nope, just 1 gold bug dude

[noble bison]

Wow, nice. We can farm a lot of better bristle now

[toxic fable]

Nvm next floor had nothing, this may have been a hilarious coincidence

[keen stone]

Titans should use agony and raid load out too imo 🤷‍♂️

[ornate grail]

Titans are bosses and they can also godforge

[molten snow]

what do you do with seals of elysium after buying the summon and follower?

[ornate grail]

Look at them

[leaden ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/creepy-hamster-stare-watching-you-cute-gif-17721600

I think there is no use, you could send to keep or gift to monumental guild

[molten snow]

ah weird

[hasty silo]

Horde them in case they ever become useful, like riftshards

[keen stone]

Yes I'm aware. But functionality they're much more similar to raids

[lethal totem]

But doom.

[hasty silo]

Finally found one

[lethal totem]

Wtf is that

[hasty silo]

It's a guy in a sheet

[lethal totem]

I miss the dungeons already :<

[clever pilot]

I found him BEFORE the event in one monument

[clever pilot]

His not even in codex ingame its so weird

[soft hare]

That sounds like a programming nightmare. There are real people trying to make this game a fun experience for all of us. Please be kind and reasonable 🫠

[vapid dagger]

I think the other paths are now spawning bosses at much better rates? Though medjed, gilded kheper and ramesses are still too rare

[open lodge]

It literally functioned partially like that for the first two hours of the event. The game swapped us to our raid gear for the raids at the top.

There was a bug for summoners where it would summon their dungeon summons for the fight instead of their raid summons, but other than that everything was good

[honest bramble]

Erm

Guys

[soft hare]

That might be doable, though it obviously didn't work out the gate. I clicked the equipment icon, which showed my dungeon loadout, but my stats and offhand spell were based on my raid loadout (note the offhand symbol does not match the skill)

Swapping Anguish paths mid-monument sounds like a very tall order...

[honest bramble]

When i u codexing kit on the thronmakers mobs

Nothing happen

[soft hare]

I was so confused why my ward was so low... until I saw "twin blast" and it clicked 😅

[soft hare]

Weird, I used them successfully on two of the shades 🤷

[honest bramble]

Hm

[vapid dagger]

Does the mask have boss scaling?

[vapid dagger]

I definitely think thronemakers now needs a seal exchange system like Ragnarok

[zenith lava]

True

[vernal fable]

Misc Monuments + Thronemakers feedback

• Add a faction Monument to the Monumental Guild building;
• fix the disparities between the Beasts path and all others (don't nerf the Beasts one, just buff/fix the rest);
• guarantee at least one event mob spawn on each floor;
• buff "exploration" chests (non end-of-floor ones): remove the 1 Proof of Avarice drop, improve other rewards or make them scale off of Anguish;
• make end-of-floor chests scale off of Anguish: Ang0 rewards should be slightly lower, Ang3/5 rewards should be slightly higher already;
• make the Raid at the end of event Monuments drop a fixed amount of Proofs of Monuments and/or Torment based on the Anguish level;
• make materials rewards' rarity scale based on the floor, from the lowest to the highest: the last mats reward shouldn't be 8 Bones;
• add a function to favorite 3 chest rewards and have them auto selected at the end of each floor based on the order (if both favorite 1 and 3 are available, 1 should be prioritised).

[dire valley]

Thoughts of easy 2nd chance from new pet for RS are greatly exaggerated. This new buff have high fade off chance (also it must be added to codex to know exactly). On practice, Rerise keep itself 1 turn on avarage

[torn sand]

oo

[stark musk]

I'm guessing that it may be harder to find the three very rare monsters on the Path of Beasts because of the sheer quantity of Osiris

[weary remnant]

that looks like it is the case yes

[stark musk]

Looool

This just feels wrong to get

[vital notch]

Why? Event related item for running event content no?

Nvm, you said "feels" not "is"

[stark musk]

Idk, it goes from crafting exclusive to getting it for free from a monument. I'm not saying it needs to be fixed it just feels weird

[slender brook]

you an also get it from a rare mob tho

[stark musk]

I'll believe it when I find a Ramesses

(But that's also new for this run of the event, and I was specifically referring to the previous method of obtaining the Regalia)

[dense orbit]

I have 6 monument at my OT and have done 40+ event monument....0 Ramses, majded, or gold bois

[stark musk]

I'm back to exclusively running the Path of the Thief because I'm convinced the amount of Osiris dilutes the chance of other event packs

[dense orbit]

If I ran 40 horde dungeons I'd have seen Medea at least 10-15 times

Same I run theif and war as I want the adornment

[weary remnant]

it's a bit sad that the end-of-monument raids only drop 1 seal each

(and osiris drops none, but that seal is useless anyway)

[fast berry]

This behavior in monuments is making using the interact button awkward

I’m on the tile for the monster but the interact button is trying to grab the chest despite it being too far away?

[ornate thicket]

It's already reported as a bug

[brisk patrol]

What's funny is arguably you are closer to the chest then when on the chest tile

[manic seal]

Does it matter which color the monument was when running it as the event version in terms of Guild exp and proof gain?

Once I select the event monument my faction doesn’t matter?

[weary remnant]

it does afaik

[stark musk]

Yes, faction monuments still give double proofs/exp even if you choose event

[brisk patrol]

I believe that your faction monument gives double XP and double proofs but other than that not sure if there's anything else. Tho the monuments now have specific drops meaning that if you the one with the most materials it may not be your factions element monument

[slender brook]

Killing t10 versions of the raids isn't completing the wuest, is it intended?

[little loom]

They should work, yes. But they may not work when the end of monument boss, now that I think about it

[slender brook]

they were summoned with scrolls when they didn't work tho

[brisk patrol]

Uh is there a quest for low and high tier

If so that could answer why it's not working

So does anyone else feel like 10 aaru anvils in the 15$ pack is kinda p2w with there being new gear released and the fact that that's literally lvl 1-10 via anvils

[leaden ravine]

That depends on what do you count as "win". Waiting a week is also an option.

[weary remnant]

that's a catch-up mechanism for newer players , they don't obtain anything other people couldn't obtain through normal game play, that's how monetization should work imo, not p2w rather tools for newer player, if they want to, to catch up to people already in the game for longer

when you think about it a super xp potion can be more relevant than anvils for that regard yet no one is pissed by them being sometimes available in real money packs

[ornate thicket]

Yep, anvils are ok

[brisk patrol]

If it's tools for newer players than why is it in a payed pack new players are less likely to spend money than veteran players. 10 of them it to much especially when you can already bring lvl 1-10 down to 2/3 days via double hammer. New gear released making it so people who pay for the pack get to instantly upgrade the ornates they got that they Wana try out. Anvils shouldn't be okay in this quantity maybe if it was 2 or 3 sure but 10 is insane

[weary remnant]

it's exactly because of double hammer existing for endgamers that 10 anvils aren't very relevant if anything for endgaemrs, and only really good for newer players. It is not "insane", the game shouldn't have that time-wall anyway to begin with...

[ornate thicket]

Also what's the "win" in this p2w? Trying new gear 2 days earlier? Having a bit more fun earlier than others?

[brisk patrol]

The time wall brings continued investment and play time rather than instant gratification for new players. 10 anvils is insane because you can upgrade your entire inventory to 10 in 10 minutes or less

[weary remnant]

(you can try items even if they aren't godforged)

[brisk patrol]

Pvp side of things or things get nerfed hard because extreme players abused it before anyone else could even get to use it

[brisk patrol]

You cannot try something reliably that gains slots with lvls or stats with lvls. You can decide it's not worth at lower lvl item but can't say if you'll like it or use it until you can use the full extent of items

[ornate thicket]

Well...
Let's be honest, PVP is a very weak argument since it's mostly PVE anyway
For second point - surely you'd want to "abuse" smth not related to stats like passives? You can easily do this on any lvl then

[brisk patrol]

I don't see a 9% ward mask being weak for pvp specially when it's near perfect for swash

Which is 18% ornate

And somewhere in the 70s for gf

[weary remnant]

and you can have it very quickly without paying

there are anvils from previous archpaths and some even for AP rn

and only the last few anvils matter

you aren't using it 1 to 7 lol

[brisk patrol]

But you won't get the slots or full power of it and it's the item most likely to get nerfed

Yes less anvils is okay 10 anvils is not

[weary remnant]

you can have a GF mask rn

even without paying

[ornate thicket]

Well, ig this won't lead to anything. Agree to disagree.

[brisk patrol]

You couldn't tho unless you specifically kept anvils from previous events. (Most people won't if they have a batch of stuff they Wana get to using

Like I'm okay with there being 2-3 anvils

But 10 just seems outrageous

The pack already offers a skin an aura astra seeds scroll materials

You're already getting a lot out of the pack without having 10 anvils

10 anvils is worth 15$ alone imo

Technically more because an hr of my time working is 17$ so something that makes between 1 hr and 72 hrs instant is worth more

[weary remnant]

anyway raids should count for event xp (and this time it really matters as there is no access to mass-event minions unlike in jan and feb, and there is a 150 AP item in the shop) and end-of-mon raids should give more seals (1 fixed is too low)

[leaden ravine]

I do not quite understand the core of the complaint. You seem to want others not to have godforged item earlier? Or you want yourself to be able to use the item before the nerf? Or are you trying to "balance" the pack in comparison to other packs?

[ornate thicket]

Brother I'm sorry but you are not "working" 72 hrs to upgrade 😭
Some kind of blacksmith gnome does

[weary remnant]

he is the Bsmith gnome union representative though

[ornate thicket]

Also again I'm completely ok with someone having GF mask 1-2 days before me if that means Odie can eat smth nice today
That's just my pov though

I'd say Paw was SO much worse

[weary remnant]

paw for PvP would have been unacceptable and in fact, it never worked in PvP so that problem never came

[brisk patrol]

Odie can eat something nice just from the other contents in the pack

[brisk patrol]

No but waiting 72 hrs (lvl 9-10) is the equivalent to me working for 72 hrs because it's time that I cannot utilize the item

The main complaint is that 10 is too many due to the amount of time they save you waiting to utilize it

[dense orbit]

You people need to reevaluate p2w.....let's not act like a 3 day to 1 week advantage on upgrading item is even remotely an issue.

Now if the pack gave you 1 hour of 200% drop qualities....that would be p2w

[prime lichen]

That's a good shout, writing that down

Odie, community came up with a BANGER runeshop item

[brisk patrol]

P2w is an advantage over other people for money. The ability to upgrade your entire inventory in 10 minutes is an advantage over people who didn't pay money for the pack. Look at it as if it's clash of clans it's only a time wall for when you get your upgrades yet you can pay for that and progress faster. Progressing in orna via gear means you have the ability to use/abuse something the devs didn't give enough attention to realize it can be a problem. The advantage here is that you get access to the gears full potential prior to the rest of the world meaning that for the duration that the community doesn't have it fully upgraded you have an advantage specifically this mask being as broken as it is

[dense orbit]

This is a f2p game, devs have to make money somewhere. Even if you manage to upgrade all of your gear in 10s....what advantage do you actually get....bragging rights for 2-3 days? 1-2 extra pvp wins?

We don't have a ranking system or seasonal leader boards where any of this matters

[brisk patrol]

We do have a ranked system. Called blades of finesse. Or global leaderboards or conquerors guild. They make the same amount off the other contents in the pack they make more than enough off of cosmetics and arch paths. 10 anvils is too much to call the pack 15$. 10 anvils is worth 15$ easily. And for a kg who's active for pvp we go through about 3 wars a day that's 9 wars minimum (that's if people use double hammer the entire duration) up to a maximum of 21 wars that can make the difference

Again my argument is that 10 is too much for the price of the pack

Bring the number down to 2-3 and it's balanced

[keen stone]

Imma buy this pack just because darkgamer is annoying

[dense orbit]

Disagree but I'll let you keep posting your opinion

[brisk patrol]

Go for it glad I could make the devs a sale

[kindred mauve]

Its not that bad tbh, it's the tiniest advantage ever,

If you can even call it that

[brisk patrol]

Saying you don't value a weeks worth of your time says a lot about what you value in life

[open lodge]

A week’s worth of our time? I feel like you severely overestimate time spent on things.

Why are mage names poop colored now?

[brisk patrol]

Add up the hrs it takes without a hammer the total time is 7 days a single anvil is between 1 and 72 hrs. 10 anvils is over 150hr saved

[open lodge]

Do you think I’m spending 100% of that time staring at the screen watching it count down?

Is that what you do?

[brisk patrol]

That's time you can't use said item

[open lodge]

Friendo, you know you can do other stuff while the countdown is happening, right?

[brisk patrol]

A weeks worth of your time spent not using something someone upgraded in 10 mins or less

[open lodge]

It’s like that one among us task where you restart the computer

You can leave and do other tasks. You don’t need to stand there for a minute

[kindred mauve]

You're a funny guy icl

[brisk patrol]

Again it's time spent without the utilization not that you can't go do other things

And compare to clash of clans. It's just a time wall not like you can't spend time doing other things right?

[leaden ravine]

If you compare to clash of clans lets compare it "right".

Imagine you already have lvl 18 walls and new kind of walls come out which have a slightly different effect (idk, lower hp but block flying units for example).

And now you can replace the lvl 18 walls you have with these new walls after you upgrade them. Regardless of how much time it takes and how OP new walls are - nothing stops you from using your lvl 18 walls.

[prime lichen]

Probably a good time to say we might agree to disagree here and not dominate the thread with it.
Fair bit of scrolling to find any feedback related to other event content at this point, let's return to that if we can. Cheers!

[brisk patrol]

I was gonna DM you to continue the conversation out of here but it won't let me DM you so feel free to add/DM me if you'd like to hear what I have to say

[leaden ravine]

I sent you friend request

[brisk patrol]

Im gonna assume a mod did that and say I was about to refer them to dangys message

[open lodge]

Man, these monuments are eating through my key stash faster than I expected. I can’t sustain this for a month. I’ve started taking the key chest at every opportunity to mitigate it a bit.

[jade iron]

You can run normal monuments too if you sont need anything from the path of the beast

[open lodge]

I’m just tryna farm arisen ptah

[brisk patrol]

Drop scrolls?

[open lodge]

Wanna get an ornate robe

[brisk patrol]

I dropped like 80 and got like 40 of them

My thief and warrior ones were lacking

But i think it's due to t8 having mage but t7 and t6 thief and warrior can't be summoned by t11 without special scrolls

[open lodge]

What?

[brisk patrol]

Are you talking about the shade or the raid

I thought arisen ptah was a raid

[open lodge]

The raid

[brisk patrol]

Drop scrolls for it

Like use them

Don't actually drop them lol

[open lodge]

I mean, I do use scrolls for them, too.

[brisk patrol]

Ok that's gonna be the easiest way and cheapest way to get it imo

Tho if you're torment is higher than agony I can see monuments being better for you

[dim fractal]

yes, I am looking for it since this morning. 30 monuments were not enough 😄

[stark musk]

Odie is really not in a patch notes kind of mood today/yesterday I guess lol

Osiris now has skills

[toxic fable]

Documentation is a crutch.

[dim fractal]

Yes, I codexed it when it still did not have

[dense orbit]

And can have event adds

[analog kindle]

maybe once you complete the Thronemaker's questline the monsters/bosses (not the raids, obviously) could appear in dungeons too

[torn sand]

as long as i can find glided kheper I'm fine

[dim fractal]

Boss horde dungeons: no event boss there 🙂

[torn sand]

why it's so Rare

@honest bramble up voting your own suggestions

[honest bramble]

Because i like my suggestions

[torn sand]

lol

[open lodge]

I’m still 10 ornates away from the tail quest being completed. These things just don’t wanna drop.

[torn sand]

i want glided kheper amulet but considering how they don't spawn ig I'm not even finding one

[honest bramble]

Sorry made small mistake, not what i meant

The summoner aaru gear is kinda weak (yeah yeah hp bonus is good, but when there is negative def and res it doesnt matter).

The negative def & res is quite bad, considering that summoners already have quite bad defensive stats, so any other item with summon stats is gonna be better.
To differentiate it and give it a bit more of a niche use - add +15% instant OR double summon chance on the armor, and +20% pact power on the boots to compensate for tha awful negative def/res stats.

Thats better

[glossy hill]

On the other hand, the arisen aaru sandals are beyond busted. Pretty good defensive stats, excellent ward + adorn slots, coupled with access to spammable reraise by followers and summons.

[open lodge]

Discord isn’t letting me downvote merrr

[honest bramble]

• yes and no

[toxic fable]

Why does the armor need to either double Ruairc gear's double summon chance or bring one of the strongest summon passives to make it niche?

edit: sorry, almost triple Ruairc gear's double summon chance.

[honest bramble]

It makes your summons use a usrless skill

[glossy hill]

That means he’s blocked you like he does everyone that disagrees with him

[open lodge]

He blocked me for downvoting a post? Wtf

[glossy hill]

Welcome to the club

[honest bramble]

Well

[open lodge]

I only even downvoted as a joke to offset his upvote, too

[honest bramble]

As i said, boots add an unnecessary skill to your summons

[honest bramble]

Thats exactly the reason i blocked you

[open lodge]

That’s your threshold of what’s worth blocking someone over? Goddamn, how do you not have every user on discord blocked by now?

[honest bramble]

Stop the drama and topic its unnecessary. Lets move on

[toxic fable]

Gonna be real with you dude, you are inviting it by upvoting your own posts.

[open lodge]

You literally started drama then tell people to stop it. What?

[glossy hill]

Reraise being called useless is hilarious. It’s lowkey busted, and will probably be even stronger on non-summoner classes that can use high skill rate pets to ensure it gets constantly spammed

[honest bramble]

In my opinion these items deserve some more love. Because there is no reason really to use aaru summoner armor over yelm/arisen fey myrm because of bad defres stats

[toxic fable]

100%, it's probably just an annoyance in some instances for summoners in that it lowers summon attack chance.

[glossy hill]

I can see how it might be less useful for summoners because of that. BeoH and Deity will probably love it though

[toxic fable]

It's already got some hilarious traction with BeoH raiding, but of course you just die the moment you get 1 dot

[torn sand]

if we need to make it better for summoner while keeping it same for other class we can just add other summon passive

it's easy

[honest bramble]

Thats true though

The beomonner perverts

[toxic fable]

Deity I see it as being less useful for since you don't need a reraise if you just 0 everything out.

[glossy hill]

Keeping it the same for other classes? I’m not sure it doesn’t need to be toned down for other classes as it stands, there’s really not much downside to running it 😅

[open lodge]

How exactly does that work? It has to have a limit, right? Otherwise you could put it on mimic and be immortal

[glossy hill]

That’s the fun thing, mimic just spams it. And if you cast mimics mischief turn 1 then it just casts it on you turn 1

[torn sand]

hmm i don't understand what you mean?

should it be nerfed on other class?

[toxic fable]

it's cateogirized as a temp buff, so yeah it currently gets spammed.

[torn sand]

gear itself isn't great so our have to sacrifice something for reraise

it's fair enough

[glossy hill]

In my opinion it should. Reraise really shouldn’t be a skill you can give to any pet

[torn sand]

and reraise doesn't stay for long

[glossy hill]

Isn’t great? Great defensive stats, good ward and a lot of adorn slots

[open lodge]

Right, so are you immortal with it?

[glossy hill]

It does if your pet always casts it

[toxic fable]

Haven't played around with it yet, how long does it seem to stick around for?

[torn sand]

is that worth sacrificing your get

[glossy hill]

Being immortal? Yea, it is

[torn sand]

usually it last for single turn for me

but I'm not using buff duration

[glossy hill]

It drops when your turn ends. If you’re running mimic, it will recast it as soon as it drops

[toxic fable]

Ah. So you completely give up all usefulness on your follower for something that only activates when you die.

[torn sand]

and sacrifice your boots too

it isn't overpowered on other class

maybe rs

but not on other

it doesn't guarantee immortality

[toxic fable]

It definitely has an obvious use case, but as I said earlier you have to give up other slots to prevent dots from just killing you after reraise procs.

and for Beo that... is crappy.

Where it is strong it will be really strong though, I wonder how abusive it will turn out in general. PvP it will be cancer though.

[torn sand]

so sacrificing boot and pet for chance to survive at 1 hp

[torn sand]

it can be nerfed for pvp bruh

[toxic fable]

Yeah it will have to be.

[glossy hill]

What do you mean by sacrificing boots? It gets 39% ward, 1400 of both defensive stats and 9 adorn slots at 200% (for a max of 57% ward)

[toxic fable]

And honestly, we will have to wait and see if we get a consistent golden kheper follower strat that allows us to forgo the boots.

[glossy hill]

At least the pet has other skills that make it more balanced

[torn sand]

but reraise being overpowered is other thing rn we should focus on problems that are affecting directly

like spawn rate of rare enemies

[stark musk]

Can someone pleae confirm for me and maybe send a video of being immortal with sandals and TMM?

[toxic fable]

It's less about the defensive stats and more about how you aren't using something specific like windtamers or whatever. You are locking out a specific gear selection in that slot.

[torn sand]

yeah i really want to see someone test it

[toxic fable]

Think "trying to use something instead of arisen aaru robe" in chest slot kind of thing.

[open lodge]

I just tested it. You need immunity from dot conditions, but yeah, you become immune. I’ll see if I can get a video.

What’s an accessory that gives burn and rot immunity? I never try for those ones so I don’t remember

[glossy hill]

Annwn

[stark musk]

Ring of Annwn

[torn sand]

few things i think should be added /changed

1. Summon bonus on eye of osiris.

2. Prolly more summon passive on osiris gear

3. Rare enemies spawn rate buff.

4. Maybe buff on drop rate too

[stark musk]

As Realmshifters Bordo and I are very familiar with every piece of immunity gear

(even if he's a former RS)

[hidden osprey]

My man is a gilga now, a big boi

[glossy hill]

2h shield when?

[hidden osprey]

WHEN

🫸 🛡️ 🫷

[glossy hill]

Wouldn’t any amount of hp regen also bypass that?

[open lodge]

Here’s 50 seconds to show

[untold urchin]

Can you do one in a pvp mirror battle?

[open lodge]

It’s more difficult in pvp because followers are a thing

You’re only immortal to a single attacker

[weary remnant]

gsh summons die before they can cast the 2turn spell because you know, gsh eats them constantly

[glossy hill]

I’ve already stated I don’t think GS is the class that will be most problematic with it

[night iris]

Ye summons or followers will still wreck you after the first hit but against single monster raids it's immortality time

[stark musk]

Thanks!

[vapid dagger]

Rest in piece reraise on pets, you will be missed (not by people who like PvP though )

[toxic fable]

So single monster raids where you can completely immune dots, and you are restricted to BeoH which has its obvious raid build (ultimastrikes) destroyed by maluses early on. I guess BeoH can still raid with chakram, but that is oddly specific.

[open lodge]

I don’t think it’s a problem in pvp

Unless you have no pet and/or no way of doing a second instance of damage

[torn sand]

i hope reraise itself doesn't get nerf because it's decent on gs

[glossy hill]

Most pets not focused on offense will deal 0 damage with their offensive skills though

[clever sigil]

Just curious, anyone tried the reraise follower in settlement for defence?

[vapid dagger]

I have just got the info that eastern mask has boss scaling, so an ornate has 70%+ ward lmao

[glossy hill]

Balanced

[honest bramble]

Op

Man, first reraise now mask

[torn sand]

everything instead of uniting for glided kheper and other rare enemies spawn rate buff

[weary remnant]

ye ok but i am trying to say that it's not "less problematic" for GS, it's completly unplayable other than by weak early t10 without the pieces for the smooth build, in which case it's a defensive piece with some chance of occasionally saving you sometimes

[keen stone]

I really hate that you set up an entire anguish path around short, quick fights (Towers) and then get forced to use that same anguish path in longer self buffing content (raid at the end) I think the only saving grace is that the raids are really easy or there would be a lot more complaining but I hate the design. I also don't enjoy having to swap back and forth from loadouts constantly.

And yes I'm aware that towers are very similar in this regard but guess what? I don't do titans anymore for these exact reasons

[glossy hill]

Seems like the solution then is removing/replacing reraise from it. Makes it more useful for GS and less abusable for other classes

[torn sand]

then it should be something good enough that's worth replacing second chance

[weary remnant]

in general giving summons skills is a bad mechanic (bad in the sense of "not good to use"), unless maybe it's 1 turn skills. GSH summons just don't stay around, GSA summons have to hit the enemy and any dilution is making them worse, GS-BP summons could theoretically use some skill but they have to guarantee they buff the GS and not the summons lol, and anyway a piece without summon stats is unusable in GS BP at any relevant agony, and the build is ultratight anyway

[glossy hill]

Or a free second chance maybe shouldn’t be given when the original one is already so game changing in PvP

[torn sand]

it could be nerfed in pvp

and second chance is probably one of most popular passive being in many classes iirc

[weary remnant]

btw this event has no summoner stuff lol

[glossy hill]

Sure, that’s a possible solution. I’m just pointing out that, in its current state, I believe it’s a problem specifically in PvP

[torn sand]

atleast it has horde summon

[torn sand]

and by nerfing it in pvp no problem exist

simple solution

[weary remnant]

oh you are right i have to check that in gsh if it autosummons more than alternatives then it's a decent improvement, my bad haven't tested it yet

[open lodge]

I really don’t think PVP will be a problem for it, though. Everyone has a follower. Unless either you or your follower cannot do damage, reraise won’t be a huge issue.

[torn sand]

it will summon 4

[weary remnant]

i can do monuments shackled but i have to unshackle for the raid at the end that's alreay pretty boring

[torn sand]

cr summon max summon possible from spell

[open lodge]

Like, I tried to get a video of the mirror and couldn’t show off immortality because the enemy mimic would kill me after my mirror broke the reraise

[vernal fable]

It will definitely be a problem in live PvP, especially team live PvP

[glossy hill]

Stonewarg, mammoth and other common defensive pets are typically zeroed by most opponents

[torn sand]

why are we talking about reraise in pvp when nerfing it is easy and best solution

[open lodge]

In team reraise is even worse! Because now there are even more people to do a single point of damage

[glossy hill]

Shouldn’t the mirror mimic also be spamming reraise?