The Hallowed Event Discussion Thread

[winter saffron]

-feedback After doing 6 mostly hour long rift breaks and more than 20 hoard dungeons, it feels like the witch is very light by comparison to the other mobs. In the rift I am getting < 1 to 10 of the other mobs.

[kindred quarry]

Im getting that with both the witch and the undead

Just now

[cold mantle]

Nice !

Thank you

[rough gale]

Ok so about an hour of rift break and this is how my mob farm looks like (killed every mob I saw and when I didn't see a single one, party reset trick, rinse and repeat)

[broken topaz]

looks like noise with average around 40

[pure aspen]

At first I thought this event is great, but now that every time I open an inn I hear knock knock trick or treat who are you, I'm a ghost, I'm a little ghost 🎶 in my head, I changed my mind. I'm gonna need some breaks

[tough gorge]

I just do towers

[wheat solar]

No joke same thing was happening to me.

[honest quail]

i got 10 mats from a trick or treat inn

this is awesome

like 10 Cores from a single treat , yum yum

[past stirrup]

Any hope for improving access to witches? I'm struggling to get enough of them, have over 100 each of the world farmable mats and 3 refined sugar lol

[blissful kettle]

I know that they supposedly upped the ability to get treats from inns, but I think I’m at 78 or 79% tricked in the last two days and since the beginning, I would say I’m at about 90% tricked. This is not one or two this is roughly 112 inns that I’ve been to.

[junior cargo]

Ideally the solution would be to let us trade any material 1 for 1 for any other material.

[hybrid cove]

that would leave us with the potential to be a dungeon-only event, which was deemed unwanted

[past stirrup]

I don't think 1:1 trading would be a very fun solution as it makes it irrelevant what you're farming - I feel like part of the fun of the event is the different trick or treaters you have to track down

I did notice that witches seem to appear very infrequently in riftbreaks, making their spawn rate more in line with the other mobs could help. I'm not sure what else would help make witches a bit easier to farm though

[broken topaz]

what if you have to trade them one by one with a click and hold button

[pure aspen]

I clearly don't have the same % of trick. It has maybe been updated with yesterday update. On my side, inns rewards seems fine (I would even say more than fine)

[past stirrup]

Anecdotally, I only got tricked once out of like 10 inns. Obviously not enough to be statistically significant on its own but sounds like that's a general trend, possibly

[pure aspen]

It didn't track the % on my side but it felt like 3 trick for 10 inns average today, will track it tommorow for some more accurate data if needed

[kindred quarry]

So, after some more hours of world farming, I’m pretty confident stating this: undeads are far rarer than vampire and mummy in world farm (easily a 4:1 ratio at the very least). I assume this is related to them having a “Rare” rarity, while the other 2 are tagged as “Common”

My proposal would be changing them to Common to ensure spawn parity between all 3 of the overworld monsters, so as not to cause an inevitable mat imbalance

They seem to be rarer in riftbreaks as well (I’m assuming rarity comes into play there as well), but I haven’t completed enough of them to be able to state that clearly

Other than this detail, the event feels so much better now, and has been a very enjoyable experience overall

[hybrid cove]

I’ll likely make the others common at some point. fwiw rarity is not used by Riftbreaks

[kindred quarry]

Appreciate that. I assumed that was the case for riftbreaks since skeletons and ghosts seemed pretty common there, despite having the Rare tag

[honest quail]

From pure ~20f tower yushhhhh

the change to the towers to have so many event-battles is so nice!, i actually enjoy way more the event-battles than avoiding dragon, beowulf with 3 fey and immortal lords, maybe there needs to be some tower mob refresher :x ... please :B?

[winter saffron]

👀

[sudden atlas]

Those are nice

Didn’t know you could get that much from the inns

[ancient pendant]

That was part of the last event adjustment, #game-announcements message

and agreed those are nice

[cold mantle]

Wowza lucky duck

I got a rotten leaf

Yes 1

[winter saffron]

Update: I know you're probably wondering what took me so long to come around since I'm fairly confident you designed this event with me in mind. Today the enjoyment level surpassed last year.

It took me a little while to find my groove and create my strategies, but as someone who spends more time in inns than 95% of the others, and as one who made a recommendation for the inns to be utilized in this event, this is awesome. Pure enjoyment all the way when I visit an inn. Even when I'm greeted by a ghost, I let out a little Aaaa! I'm pretty sure this whole event is supposed to be played with 1 HP anyway.

This is definitely better than last year, and I'm sure worse than next year. Thanks for thinking of me.

[winter saffron]

I feel this. I'll let you know what I work out on the witch/sugar this weekend. Make sure you go to every inn you can.

[past stirrup]

Yeah no kidding! Feels like it's practically the best way to get sugar

[blissful kettle]

The few rewards from inns I’ve gotten is good, but I got tricked 4 more time in a row on the way home today

[prisma thistle]

Endless was pretty fun last night. The Hallowed monsters have a wonderful assortment of materials.

[native rampart]

Normal horde dungeons should get you plenty of sugar

[charred warren]

honestly 50 floor towers are pretty balanced

[native rampart]

dried oak is somehow my lowest qty of the 6, and my play style is pretty dungeon heavy

[charred warren]

and currently its to the skies

[native rampart]

I'm pretty good at queuing up my f50 towers and letting them time out

[charred warren]

that too is a skill i have

[winter saffron]

I'm getting one witch in a t11 hoard dungeon. I'm not understanding the reason it's a 4 mat but I'll keep trying till it works.

[charred warren]

i am also very good at farming raid scrolls and never using them

i did a solo t5 horde and got like 4-5 witches

[native rampart]

Just rng, my last dungeon had way more witches then any other event mob

With fomor going on monuments seem a bit of a bust for hallowed scroll farming

Which is unfortunate when I have 3 monuments and no non themed dungeons at work

[winter saffron]

Just tried a bunch of tiers of hoards including t5. Still one witch per. RnG is wild.

[kindred quarry]

T11 will always be your best bet, event monsters are tier agnostic, so you just want the highest number of opponents

[blissful flame]

Crafted 54 scrolls so far, but these ghosts are eluding me I swear

[native rampart]

I've been trying to focus on targeting my mat shortfalls in riftbreaks, kind of been working

[past stirrup]

Here's my mats, mainly been doing RBs, picking off some mobs in the overworld, and working through some towers. I don't really care for normal horde dungeons but I've only been getting like 0-2 witches per 25 floors which feels a bit low. Are you guys getting more in your horde dungeons?

[native rampart]

I haven't kept close track but it feels like I average at least one event mob per floor, the "problem" is that there are so many.

There's what, 8 from hallowed in dungeons and for now we also get buggane there.

I'm okay with having that many as long as they're dropping mats, and ss/vss drop keys which is always nice

[sage reef]

The same problem with the witch.

[winter saffron]

I can't seem to land more than one witch per hoard . You're not alone.

[hybrid cove]

Explanation here: #1290720457078870148 message

[tough gorge]

Kinda glad my material farm discussion allowed to have the metric and conversation seperate and clear

I will try to do thoses going forward

[burnt violet]

Did my first Riftbreak today (the first which wasn't like 10 Km away)
I didn't had problems with witches on my own.
Ghosts, on other hand, seems to be really "shortprint" and spawns very little, here

[junior cargo]

Fair point

[distant ingot]

is there any difference in appearence between Scary Skeletons, Very Scary Skeletons and the (useless) Skeletons that i dont know? ^^

[serene dawn]

Where do I find the hollowed blades?

[distant ingot]

@serene dawn mean that? https://orna.guide/items?show=853

Kingdom Raid ^^

[jagged vector]

Would it be too much to ask for a special screen clear move for world lol

just like hit it and it just wipes all the mobs on the screen that’s only visible with view distance.

Is that too much? Give it like a huge cool down of like idk 10-15 mins. Or it charges depending on the amount of mobs killed

[autumn mortar]

Hi guys. What's the most efficient way to farm scroll mats? Did few riftbreaks, some towers and dungeons and got kinda less than expected amount of mats...

[distant ingot]

how do you guys get witches to spawn? i rarely get them even in a riftbreak.

[slow bramble]

Ive been doing rift hoard dungeons and towers and im at 70 scrolls so far

[autumn mortar]

Like how many approximately you did

[slow bramble]

Way to many about 13 per hour and during cooldown i was jumping in towers

Picked up a rift on the way to work and on the way home

[autumn mortar]

What tier you dung are you doing?

[slow bramble]

T11

[distant ingot]

worst thing of all that time and effort put into that is, that you maybe could not even get an legendary of the item you want. ^^

[slow bramble]

Thats why my plan is too try and get over 500 scrolls by the end of the month took me 530 rhadas to get a decent ornate spiked shield im determined to get his armor

[distant ingot]

holy sh*t 😄

[slow bramble]

Also its work time so it aint that bad tomorrow is gonna be my first day off during the event so imma see what i can do in 5 or so hours

I work for a call center so my hands are free most of the day lol

[tough gorge]

Considering the event population is split between world and dungeon spawns, I would be inclined for trades withing theses categories, so that if you have an imbalance of one dungeon mob or 1 world mob you can rebalance it while staying in the same pool of means of acquisition

[pure aspen]

I m a dungeon enjoyer, but I would be disapointed seing this kind of thing happening, as I really like having something not completely duable via dungeons. That being said, on my way to public transport to have fun playing the game and collecting datas about inns ! 😁

[tough gorge]

what do you mean? you prefer having 2 of the 3 dungeons mats being much higher than the other one and having no control over your ability to get that specific material over the 2 you have in abundance for no reason?

[pure aspen]

I m fine with the fix we ll have for the spawn difference on riftbreak 🙂 and I don't want the event to be duable via spamming dungeons only

[dry cobalt]

Same

[tough gorge]

That was my whole point

Being able to trade DUNGEON ONLY with DUNGEON ONLY
Being able to trade WORLD ONLY with WORLD ONLY

[pure aspen]

Oh then I missunderstood sorry 🙂

[tough gorge]

I know english is not my first language but surely it was clear I did not mean mixing the two

[pure aspen]

All good, my english is trash.

But you can send another SS with arrows everywhere just to be sure I get it right (joking)

[tough gorge]

French Canadian and French from France having to fight over word meaning in English, the things the british crown did to us

[pure aspen]

Still feel bad every year on 25th October, Azincourt memory 😢

[blissful kettle]

Ok…another 11 inns…only 3 treats…8 tricks…still at 75% ugh

[pure aspen]

113 inns : 41 tricks / 34 event mats inns / 38 "others" (regular mats + shrines).

[winter saffron]

It's 50%

You just have to find the right 50

[blissful kettle]

When I include other days….im still at 70% negative over 150 inns….

[winter saffron]

It's a seed. Doesn't mean that 50% of the ones you open.

[pure aspen]

Will do some more tomorrow, but it looks like it may be around same odds for tricks/évent mats inns/"other" (regular mats and shrines ?

[winter saffron]

I've gone 16 in a row with no trick. It's just a preset outcome.

[pure aspen]

You mean tricks inns will remains tricks inns ?

Then may be nice to include a reset in case it's not already there (there may be a weekly reset tho)

[winter saffron]

Nah

[pure aspen]

Seed like memory hunt ones ?

[winter saffron]

Probably like 1,000 preset seeds with 500 being ghosts and 500 holding rewards. They roll each day. Not that, but like that.

[pure aspen]

What is your sample size ? Could you share results like I did some messages ago in case you tracked those

To know if it's worth it that I keep tracking mine

[winter saffron]

There was this #1290724870853886044 message

I open over 100 Inns a day. I'll pay closer attention, but I'll say it feels very balanced.

[pure aspen]

I m wondering if he is refering to 50% chance to get tricked, or just same chance of trick compared to event mats inns

[winter saffron]

What would the difference be?

[pure aspen]

Because if it's a pure 50% trick, it means it's not a 50% event mats, as there are also non event mats and shrines.
It may be something like 33/33/33

[winter saffron]

I got ya

[pure aspen]

⬆️ and this sample is too small but it tend to makes me think it could be 33/33/33

[winter saffron]

Yeah 50% tricked. Definitely not the other 50 event mats. I think the event mats are slightly higher than half of the other though. It's a lot of event mats when it's a successful knock.

Dang fat fingers

[pure aspen]

Yes I agree about the last part definitely

[winter saffron]

I'll start tracking

But I'm also still questing. There's a lot happening in each inn for me.

[pure aspen]

Nice, will go for 100+ more tomorrow then so we can add our results for better sample size

[winter saffron]

I'm sure Odie will also chime in on this for us.

Guys definitely can't say hey I did 10 knocks and 7 were ghosts so it's 70%. A much larger sample is required as there's a lot more inns in their area contributing to the outcome they are not visiting.

[pure aspen]

Not so sure. He s probably just waiting for us to start our inns trip to change odds 10 times while we re collecting datas 😁

I'm sure it's one of his favorite hobbies

[winter saffron]

Calculate this suckers

[pure aspen]

Good luck guys

[kindred quarry]

It’s more than 50%, but only because getting Hide from an Inn should be considered a trick

[distant ingot]

Rifts are still got less witch spawns than anything else, was the adjustment already made?

[lusty prawn]

I've a theory : all monsters with pumpkin candy bags are in reality children who just disguised for halloween. That's why they're so weak and why we got confused when we slaughter them. Also why they can only trick or treat !

We're monsters !

[sage reef]

In the rift, witch spawns are minimal or non-existent.

[distant ingot]

Same, read odie write he'll make adjustments if i remember correctly.
But seems like thats still in the works

[sage reef]

Yes, I read that he made changes regarding the witch. But I didn't notice that it worked.

[sudden fulcrum]

He Said: he will(!) make. So i think we have to wait 😦

#1290720457078870148 message

[charred warren]

someone mentioned using 'a party reset trick' buit i have no idea what it is

[placid radish]

Changing the party your in refreshes mob spawns

[junior cargo]

If you're not at the location, like you have the RB in your queue it's even easier to just leave the riftbreak and join again from your queue.

[cold mantle]

Yo I tell my wife they're kids dressed up and we've been tasked with volley 3ing them all

Get off my lawn kids

https://tenor.com/view/bow-arrows-shoot-hit-gif-12968662

[winter saffron]

A better method than swapping parties as that uses up all your invites: Kill all the mobs, leave the riftbreak, click the kingdom tab, exit your kingdom, go back to the rift break, click the kingdom tab, exit your kingdom, and voila. New set of events mobs.

No cool down on leaving and entering the rift so it's super fast.

[restive silo]

Could we allow inns to be accessed by wayvessel please? I don't feel that the odds of getting anything once a day per inn and once an hour per wayvessel would be game breaking. If the inn items reset every hour also I would understand the block.

[winter saffron]

The new Vulcan monument only had two Halloween event mob battles for a total of 4 possible mats. Seemed tighter than last week.

[restive silo]

When you say tighter than last week, are you also meaning since before the Autumna event started? This is only the 6th/7th day of the event and Autumna started on the 3rd.

[winter saffron]

Autumna is fine, only saw a few of them too. It just seemed that the monuments would hold more Halloween mobs than a single hoard dungeon.

[tight bluff]

I thought I saw a comment about the idea of implementing a mat exchange. With a response that they didn't want event to done solely in dungeons. I can't seem to find it now though. Has the been any other discussions regarding. I don't see why there couldn't be two separate exchanges for the 3 world mats + 3 dungeon mats.

[tough gorge]

#1290724870853886044 message
This?

It happenned on the weekend and yeah, same page as you, I have a metric lack of sugar, but that conversation mostly happenned on the weekend where Odie and the team gets to enjoy life

I have faith in Odie fixing the witch spawn this week and the metrics will dictate if we get a trade or not

but yeah, we have no control over our ability to farm a specific mob in the pool of 3, for dungeons and world, so It makes sense to be able to trade into thoses pools to rebalance what ever the game decides to imbalance

[tight bluff]

Yep, exactly

I get we can put in the effort to balance mats in RBs. It'll come at a bit if an efficiency loss though. Extra effort and penalties to fix a problem that's in no way my fault isn't too exciting either though.

In addition to witch theres the undead spawn being much lower in world as well.

Some people can't hunt and farm RBs as readily as others too. So it'd just be nice to be able to rebalance after fixed to into place and move forward.

[tight bluff]

Ty for the response. The post I remember seeing, I thought, had a reply from an Oddie or NF representative. Was curious if my suggestion had already been made and it had by you.

[tough gorge]

yeah I made it to Odie earlier but it was not really a conversation. Considering the witch spawn fix was comming there was no point pressing him for more untill they get data on how the spawn rebalancing fixes things

[vapid elbow]

Is refined sugar really rare or am i just really unlucky? i’ve done like 5 full dungeons and haven’t found one yet lol

[cold mantle]

It's rare because it's nose sugar

Those witches ya know

https://tenor.com/view/mean-tweets-gif-22797384

[tough gorge]

there is a spawn issue waiting to be fixed this week

it is already known by Odie

[hybrid cove]

For vis: #1290720457078870148 message

[kindred quarry]

Also making the undead Common, pretty please 🙏

[dusk wren]

To people who are mostly farming via towers, what's your bottleneck? Mine seems to be cores

[lusty prawn]

Sugar too, and i only farm through towers

[autumn mortar]

+1

[mortal kestrel]

That might just be the luck of what shows up in the tower batches, honestly

[lusty prawn]

Maybe. But it feel they also have less chances to loot sugar

Probably just a feeling

[broken locust]

guys I am not sure if it is normal that there is only 1 or 2 mobs spawning in a party dungeon.
I understood duingeons have been nerfed but that is a very low rate

[tough gorge]

party dungeons are nerfed specificly

you get more in solo mode

[winter saffron]

It feels like witches got a boost today. More testing required. But it seems like I'm seeing four at a time in rifts instead of two.

They are not respawning as fast as the others though

I understand the logic behind the decision, but it still feels like they should be a three mat instead of a four mat.

[dry cobalt]

Eh, you can craft almost 200 scrolls,its good enough, I think the Devs did a good job of improving the event while keeping it not so easy, if you don't participate in Towers/World/Riftbreaks, you can't craft anything, but if you participate in Towers/World/Riftbreaks then it's kind of easy (depending on how much you farm too), and the rarity of the drops from the raid was reduced to famed.

[clear moth]

Friendly reminder that just because someone grinds hard for an event does not mean it is balanced or good. See Amorri burnout of yesteryear

[winter saffron]

Correct. What you have is good enough doesn't address the needs of more casual players, not to mention I've been chasing the witch to achieve that. It doesn't matter, it's been addressed now.

[spark leaf]

So now that the spawn rates seem to be good enough for the community, should we talk about gear?

Like how OHB and Aglovale are super cool but not at all usable in the current Orna landscape 😥

[kindred quarry]

World farming still has the undead imbalance. Any chance we could have them changed to common so that people that enjoy world farming without riftbreaks aren’t permanently capped on rotten leaves?

[dry cobalt]

I'm casual now and can get 40 scrolls in one week(inns and towers), I would make more but I dont have enough fragments of the core, the best way to farm right now are inns

[clear moth]

My first response was about you telling someone they were fine cause they “farmed 200 scrolls”

In general it is best to talk about economies or rates of acquisitions and not volume. As the first is more likely to be a holistic approach then the second

IDC how you farm tbh. Or anyone. But it important if you see outliers to report them. IE which spawns in rifts changed today due to convos around the mob rate

[tender kite]

I'm not sure how much could/should be done a piecemeal basis. Celestial nerf would certainly help without touching OHB/Aglovale. Zwei, GUrsa, Trev 2hand effects could probably be better in a more general "2hand v. 1hand" topic. ||It feels like we're perpetually waiting on this though.||

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Sticking good 2hand abilities on all 2handers in general is a powerful separator for them. Assuming their stats aren't way out of whack (compare with e.g. 5selenehand celaxe 1hander), it seems like one of the best reasons to use 2handers could be just getting access to otherwise unreachable skills. Swansong kinda does this but they all could/should do this.

Giving OHB something that guaranteed Doom would be unique (fun build-around with assassin stuff in pvp/pve), giving Aglovale a high damage Arcane skill (matching its t.arcane^^ proc) similarly. Thematic, unique... good things.

[dry cobalt]

Cleave

[spark leaf]

Agree with the above, OHB and aglovale are sort of exceptions though because of the negative ward.

Even if all of the above was implemented tomorrow, they are probably still not practical in an environment where survivability is directly tied to ward.

I don't think this means we just slap a bunch of ward on them either, cause that is lame. But give them a serious (like 10k) HP buff or something and suddenly they have a use in towers

[dry cobalt]

I think I didn't express myself well, what I meant was that I think the changes that have been made seem sufficient to me and much better compared to last year, that's why I referred to the 200 scrolls and my 40 scrolls, the event already meets the requirement of having a good balance(although, the best way to farm is inns instead of full world)

[pure aspen]

Sorry to bother, but could we keep this channel for the Hallowed event talks 😜

[tender kite]

willing to spin off "OHB/Aglovale aren't useful" somewhere else. they're definitely part of the event, but the problem and solutions don't seem in scope for the event.

[winter saffron]

We are sharing facts over feelings though. The event feels great. Facts show deficiencies.

But with the new adjustment made today we'll see how it balances.

[tight bluff]

I didn't hear many complaints about the scroll acquisition rate. I assume a lot of people felt the way I did. Farmed hard at the start of the event. Then I looked at the imbalance of sugar compared to all other mats and realized that 5 other event mobs barely mattered. The only way to progress # of scrolls required the witch.

Instead of what would have been a much more enjoyable farm with lots of mobs to target. With the player clicking and killing to their hearts content. Turned into a Waldo witch hunt with the frustrations of Waldo not showing up for a cold page at a time. Less time killing and more time looking.

I'm glad the spawns are equalized now but still kinda disappointed that the where's Waldo witch hunt will continue until sugar catches back up to the rest of your mats. Which is easy enough to do over time now but it's still not how I'd prefer to be running this event.

It would have been nice to have a method to help equalized that didn't require me not to care about 5 out of 6 event mobs in rifts. For example putting witch and only witch into UWs or a system to exchange mats. I'd even be happy with just removing sugar from the scroll recipe all together which instantly solves the current issue players have that was caused by the mistake in spawn rates.

[hybrid cove]

if we were much later in the month, i would definitely agree with entertaining sort of catch-up mechanic for the witch, but I think we're early enough that it should not be warranted

[rough gale]

I'd say there's decent enough event mob packs in towers, coupled with rift breaks and dungeons to make the grind engaging ~ not too easy, but manageable, kinda like beast felled being limited to beast dens or something.

If I could add something though, I think a little bit more tweaking on tower mob composition to add more witches would be nice and highly appreciated.

[tight bluff]

That's fair and I have no doubt it's well within our means to be able to fix the unbalanced mat problem that's been created. I was more speaking to how it affects the way the grind feels mattering as much as the need for its rewards to seem justified.

With the spawn issue fixed there's at least an end in sight which mentally is huge for the player compared to before. There's still this period ahead of us where focus will mainly be on one mob. So unlucky stretches where it doesn't show up much feels bad in the moment. Which, of course, likely varies greatly from player to player.

I didn't mean to sound too negative, really enjoy this game and appreciate everything you and the team does. So I'll add a thank you as well!

[untold talon]

Did Riftbreaks got nerf?

Or am i just unlucky to have only 2 spawn of mob bucket event on Tricks or Treats

[untold talon]

Nvm its good now 😚✨

[cold mantle]

Time for a swim

[tough gorge]

Number of times it's on top of the mountian my house is build on the cliftside of, or worse, on the other side of the peak lol

This event, checking every hour, half the time it's on the peak or other side, and 20% of the time it's on the parallele where it is easely street accessible

I know Odie said he's working on limiting their spawn to places people actualy went to before, so I imaigne it would be based on spawned pvp nodes or something

[sudden atlas]

[cold mantle]

Best spot for witch spawns?

[winter saffron]

Regular hoard dungeons and riftbreaks. Not really a best spot.

[kindred quarry]

Alright, I said I’d give more feedback so here are my mid-month impressions on the event. Keep in mind that I am someone that enjoyed the original event’s iteration.

That said, the new additions to the event seem overwhelmingly positive, as they allow people that didn’t enjoy interacting with the event last year to farm scrolls in whatever way that better fits their playstyle. Towers seem to have a healthy amount of monsters and the event fights actually breathe some life into the usually monotonous battles that everyone has gotten used to.

I’ve also changed my mind and no longer mind having 3 monsters in the overworld and 3 in dungeons, as that means I actually have something event related to do in-game when I get home. Last year I’d go for world farming sprees and then not touch the game for the rest of the day.

With all of that said, there is one outlier that has been hindering my enjoyment of the event. Undead’s rarity means that, as a world farmer, I’m always hurting for rotten leaves, and that means that riftbreaks (which could have been a super fun kill everything on sight bonanza) just become endless loops of kill undeads -> exit and reenter to spawn more undeads -> etc etc. This one last change would imo make the event perfect and super enjoyable.

That said, I’m still having a blast and would definitely agree this iteration has surpassed last year’s.

[coral warren]

Rift breaks are great since you can refresh them

[dreamy zephyr]

I have loved having the mobs in Towers. Between work and kids I havent been able to venture out in search of riftbreaks. But with most mobs being in Towers I still feel like I can engage with the event (which I really appreciate.) And, it feels like a productive use of in game time as Towers are a viable option for end game progression. So I love that as well.

Ive got a slight imbalance with how many of each ingredient Im able to find (sugar seems to be rare when Tower farming.) But Im not hugely worried about it as I think Ill be able to shift my gameplay focus towards the end of the event to balance out my ingredient levels.

Overall Im enjoying this event currently also.

Slightly disappointed with the sudden drop off in Bernie memes tho...

[distant ingot]

whats the best tier for (event) witches in Dungeons? rifts dont really help getting sugar ^^

[zealous igloo]

Even monsters don't care about tier, so it should always be Highest Available

[distant ingot]

^^ k thx

[tough jackal]

Oh I just remembered that I wanted to leave feedback as last year apparently only negative feedback was received and this cause some surprise when people came into the thread saying no wait we liked the event (lol)

After several balance patches I think this event is in a great spot now grind wise in terms of accessibility and crafting costs. The inns are a GREAT touch as well. Thematically October is my favorite month and I love seeing the little sprites to give more feel of the season to the game - the inns help contribute to this as well

Thanks for all the hard work these past two weeks!

[river hazel]

I still like last year better and prefer my “gps” content to be played in motion (world mobs), not sitting at a tower or rift break for an hour.

[pine wind]

Okay, this was my breaking point, what the heck

Steadfast 2 on Gilga btw lol, trying to cast affinity from turn1

What's the intended strategy here other than "just suck it up lmao"

[kindred quarry]

Use immunity gear for statuses that cost turns, have only the necessary skills to avoid confusion being a problem

Or get higher foresight to act first and kill them before they annoy you

[pine wind]

That's my problem.
0 counterplay against confusion

I'm running a foresight gear piece already

[kindred quarry]

If you only bring offensive skills, confusion won’t be an issue

[pine wind]

Well

Will be, cause I still need 2 turns to get a lightning affinity and kill one if it doesn't get second chance

Ans during that 2 turns, I'll get 8-10 tricks thrown at me

That I have 0 counterplay chance against

[kindred quarry]

Enchanting the weapon gets rid of the need to use affinity, could be an option there

[pine wind]

But then I'll need to do elementless elsewhere, which doesn't really solve the issue of having steadfast 2 with a Ymir vritra charm (status resists), and not being able to avoid confusion at all

[pine wind]

Also even then, killing 1-2 mobs a turn (if lucky) still leaves all the others to bombard me with confusion that I can't resist

[sinful marsh]

It's funny how the only two (viable) pieces of confusion-proof gear are only available for Valhallan/Summoners (AC Atepomarus Mail) or mages (AC Ogmios' Satin Robe). Aglovale doesn't count; a legendary rarity EoD isn't an answer

[pine wind]

Yeah, I knew there were a few gear pieces I can't wear, but change class doesn't seem to be a fun solution to a problem like this

[sinful marsh]

Obviously button shouldn't be the solution either

Confusion just isn't a fun mechanic. Even moreso when it can't be cured out with items

and even even moreso when it can decide to eat your healing item usage and decide to use a skill instead

[twin shadow]

I wouldn't want to play this event on a non steadfast class

[sinful marsh]

why can't we counter Trick(s) with (bag of) Treats

[pine wind]

I honestly wouldn't care about it taking an extra item usage if it could get cured, but now what happens for me with themis is:
*Gets confused turn 1 *
Maybe turn 2-3 I get cleansed on my confused action
Before my next turn I'm confused again
This makes my 3-4 turn encounter clears into a 10-15 turn slog

[sinful marsh]

oh, cleanse and dispel can actually remove confused but not panacea

Steward Hengreon is the new meta then (highest heal chance I think + dispel) Sphinx Kit is even better at 50 heal rate

[pine wind]

Doesn't solve the perma confusion issue sadly, since it acts after I got the confused action 😢

[sinful marsh]

ugh, you are right, I hit myself in the confusion!

[pine wind]

So am I left to rage at it everytime I have to do the ghost encounters?

[sinful marsh]

Either that, or

or embrace gilgamage

Not gonna lie, as a filthy magic user I like that a single physical immune enemy in towers is enough of an obstacle for chained shield builds, AV2 supremacy for at least a month

[pine wind]

Windtamer shield is also countered iirc 😮

[sinful marsh]

It makes me wonder how would anguish50 meta would change if there would be a single physimmune enemy in boss dungeons

[pine wind]

I mean we would probably find the element that has the least amount of resistance mobs (like for endless it was earth before dragon)

[candid snow]

Elementless spiked shield when?

As in the same "element" as mages dance

[coral warren]

Just kill it before it can confuse you

[pine wind]

As I've mentioned, I don't have enough turns to kill it before it can confuse, especially if I get outFS-d with foresight gear.
Also doesn't solve that there are encounters that have multiple confusing enemies (check the picture I've put up, what am I to even do?)

[coral warren]

Oo I was thinking you were talking about kill them in rift or dungeons sorry

[pine wind]

No prob^.^

[winter saffron]

For whatever reason, when I'm confused it always defaults to Ultimastrikes.

Well it FEELS like there are more undead in the world. I'm encountering 4x in the past 24 hours what I have previously so hopefully that means an adjustment was made.

[wheat solar]

Remove multi turn moves from your attack list and smash your main attack and hope it goes through.

[kindred quarry]

Thanks Odie!! 🎉🎉

[coral warren]

Make witch common too

[mortal kestrel]

I take it the dungeon ones will stay Rare

[coral warren]

I don't even do dungeons for witch so doesn't matter only rift matters for me

[kindred quarry]

Odie confirmed rarity doesn’t affect rift spawns in this thread

[coral warren]

😶

[winter saffron]

Mama mia!

[spring inlet]

2 Old Hallowed Blades so far this month. At this rate I won't be able to finish the quest. Just did 3 100% damage raids and nothing

[pure aspen]

It's available from both kingdom and wolrd (summoning Scroll) raids. Rarity of the item is high so Indeed it's better to solo to have a higher chance to drop it. But it shouldn't take you too long. If you really have some issue with this quest, farm some scrolls (horde normal dungeons with some luck gear and/or fishing).

[spring inlet]

I've done 38 Arisen Pumpkinheads and received 2 Old Hallowed Blades. It's not that I don't know how or where to find them it's the stupid low drop rate combined with needing 5 "unique" items just for the quest. It's a nearly 1 in 20 return, that's 100 Event raids. That's too much.

[pure aspen]

There might be an issue, as it shouldn't be 2/38 at all if you 100% those raids.

[pure aspen]

That's all I ve done, and I had the 5 items before those 29.
38 arisen pumpkinheads for 2 items seems too low to be 38 solo raids, or it's really really unlucky 😅

[spring inlet]

Most are solo, I'd say 10 are 50-70%

[pure aspen]

You would say but it's maybe more, and still, that's 28 arisen pumpkinheads solo if you're correct with your numbers. 20 more (and probably way less), according to my results and some of many players, should do the job as long as you solo all of them. Good luck 🙂

[slow bramble]

I got mine in 6 raids

[amber thorn]

I'm waiting til great felling to drop for mine

[restive silo]

Yeah, that's a bit much just to finish the quest line. Depending on personal time and the kingdom setup, you can't rely on the kingdom raid to get them.

[mortal kestrel]

(they are also world raids)

[spring inlet]

Finally finished, 51 Arisen Pumpkinheads
2 Swords in the first 38 raids, 3 in the last 13 😂😭

[rocky adder]

By the way, Pumpkin Buildings are definitely my favorite building-sprites pack so far. Just wanted to make sure that’s clear. I’ll be leaving pumpkins around the world in my favorite places.

[distant ingot]

what consumables do you guys use in riftbreaks, get barely eventmobs needed for scrolls. ^^

[zealous igloo]

Chaos, occult, affinity, torch.
Max luck, two (ornate if possible) lover's lost

Enter riftbreak, kill all pumpkin holders, when there are none, leave riftbreak, refresh (by restarting app or entering kingdom menu), rejoin riftbreak, refresh again

[distant ingot]

k thx ^^

[winter saffron]

Um.. Hallowed Candles

Surtr swords also increase monster spawn, Keep your eye out for amitys that do the same.

[restive silo]

I feel like Hallowed candles literally double the amount of pumpkin creatures around? Haven't done the math, just what it looks like when I'm out walking.

[tough gorge]

Did a 3 hour drive poking all the inns. Got me 26 scrolls. Sugar please be more common

[winter saffron]

I don't know if I can ever go without..

[tough gorge]

yeah inns sometime bless you with 2 scroll worth of sugar

[winter saffron]

I got 160 sugar from inns today

[tough gorge]

again, i got 26 scrolls worth from my trip, which is.... 130 sugar

just that the disparity once max scrolls are crafted, is big

[spare kestrel]

SNIFF

[blissful kettle]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xpFIPsNw4ns

[pure aspen]

Feels like we had a New update

[cold mantle]

What did it do

[pure aspen]

I wrote on the wrong channel sorry. i just saw settlements location reset

[wild warren]

Anyone have the full Codex on Arisen Pumpkinless?

[prisma thistle]

Yes, here it is.

[wild warren]

Thank you

[restive silo]

Wow!

[tight bluff]

I wonder how a "House Of Horrors" Riftbreak will suffer from a "Trick or Treat" Riftbreak 🤔

[restive silo]

Everything is berserk!

[tight bluff]

Sold!

[cold mantle]

Double opportunity for RB seems awesome

I miss the old system for RB spawning

[restive silo]

what was the old system?

[cold mantle]

Not related to parks or poi

Now they're always same spot(s), less likely for OT lucky spawn, which encourages impromptu hour grind sessions.

[idle swift]

I am loving the fact we can grind for scrolls in towers as well as dungeons and world, but I find the event mobs appearance rate skewed to favor some over others.

Doing towers and horde/endless dungeons, I find myself lacking mainly ghosts, and then witches.
I would suggest tuning down ghost/witch mats from 4 to 3, to make it more even.

That being said, anyone knows where ghosts and witches appear more than the rest? 😅

[clear moth]

Dungeons horde dungeons. Although if you missed the first few days of the changes where there wasn’t overlapping event mobs it is a grind at a which or two a dungeon

[idle swift]

Those I do, but ghosts, still a big problem.

[clear moth]

Ghosts and whiches were supposed to be from dungeons. That was been previously the argument on why they are more expensive

[idle swift]

Doing dungeons and also towers where they appear as well, I find both are lacking from the landscape.
I hope at the end of the event I will have equal numbers on all mats, instead of the spikes in both directions I have now....
Even a way to convert mats in the last 2 days would be amazing.

[clear moth]

I am hoping for a great time with the new short event

[restive silo]

I feel like I frequently have riftbreak spawns around my OT? But granted I'm not hunting them down like I did the first few days.

[jagged vector]

I’m having a hard time understanding two different rift breaks for the hallowed event. Why not have made it house of horrors week 1.

Whenever I came across a rift break trick or treat, the monsters I needed weren’t as available as the dungeon monsters were. This turned me off so much so that I haven’t been active with this event. Feels bad cause last year I was on a break and I was excited to farm this event this year but after first and second week of just bad event design I’m back to feeling like I need another break. I’ll try out House of horrors if I come across one but with only a few days left it’s disheartening.

Also can someone tell me if old hallowed blade is available in the Monument Shop? If not why?

[sinful marsh]

OHB won't be available because it's legendary rarity, and nothing of legendary rarity can show up in monumental

[restive silo]

Honestly, I've been getting MOST of my stuff from knock knocking on inns while driving too/from work. I get the old hallowed blade from the arisen pumpkin head kingdom raid.

[dry cobalt]

Eh? What about Arisen Fey Babd Catha or things like that??

[sinful marsh]

Also legendary, so you won't get that either

[restive silo]

I just got 18 refined sugar from an inn!

I'm all hopped up for the day!

[sinful marsh]

Plus everything from AMorri is also excluded from showing up in monumental, no matter the quality

[jagged vector]

Gotcha

[jagged vector]

Good to know, knocking on Inns just sounds meh though.

Also yea OHB not for the quest line I meant like getting a chance for ornate.

[jagged vector]

I was under the assumption it’s because arisen morrigan is available all year round albeit low chance of spawning but I didn’t know monument didn’t spawn legendary gear which is a bummer in my opinion. I thought that was the whole point of monument was to get a chance to roll for better quality on event raid items.

[wheat solar]

Haven't seen the new riftbrrak yet. Does it differ from trick or treat?

[kindred quarry]

Haven’t found one either

[sinful marsh]

5 scouthawks later, not a sign either

[cold mantle]

See any riftbreaks at all?

[clear moth]

3 hour drive in one direction and I didn’t see a haunted house rift break

[kindred quarry]

I don’t think anyone has reported seeing one yet. It’s probably safe to assume they’re bugged

[idle swift]

Hadn't seen one as well, and I really hope they only contain more ghosts, and the rest witches.

[slow bramble]

Drove for 30 mins yesterday to find one no luck and today on my way to work another 30-45 mins no luck on finding one

Although inns do give juicy rewards just wished more sugar would spawn in them lol

[winter saffron]

I finally have a riftbreak at my OT!

[blissful kettle]

Ok. So it’s not my bad luck…it’s either broken or the frequency is too low

[slow bramble]

Yep

Inns looks more reliable honestly

[tough gorge]

there is a "park" that is a cliftside rigth next to my house but too far from me, that is soaking all the riftfalls, and yeahhhh no riftbreak unless i break a leg

makes me want to buy a drone just to fly my phone there and come back

[amber thorn]

Ithought the "house of horrors" riftbreak was just the existing trick or treat variant? With increased spawns. Maybe I misunderstood

[restive silo]

Haven't seen the haunted house break either. Granted I didn't go look, but was out and about some yesterday.

[restive silo]

Maybe noe one has survived those breaks to talk about it?

[prisma thistle]

I found one but the lake seems to be interfering.

[tough gorge]

They exists!

[cold mantle]

Wowowoeo

I want one

The hotel I'm at hasn't had one spawn in a few days at all

[sudden fulcrum]

Yesterday night with Full spawn-things.

[pure aspen]

It's not a rift, it's Oktoberfest

[slow bramble]

Cruel game spawned 2 rifts but not on me (at work cant go out to get them)

[restive silo]

How rude!

[candid snow]

Origin town at workplace this is late stage capitalism :((

[idle swift]

I pray for a conversion option, my core fragments count is abyssmally lower than the rest, with only sugar pretty close to it.

[restive silo]

Me too. I'm down to 0 sugar/fragments but 150 of each of the others!

[winter saffron]

I haven't even World farms this event outside of the first 5 days. So even just taking rifts which I only attack the three that I'm down on and inns into consideration it seems it's going to end on a gap for sure.

[tight bluff]

You could probably even out with 6-10 HOH Rifts

[winter saffron]

Probably will try to do some of that. I have 200 more inns to visit today for one last push.

[clear moth]

Get it Lamp! Awesome grind this month!

[idle swift]

House of Horrors rift didn't appear near me yet, didn't even see one.
Still hope for a conversion method 🤞

[pure aspen]

Not a fan of a conversion method for this event

[ancient pendant]

Agreed, I think there was time to address any shortfall after the initial adjustments were made. I'm actually blocked on the ghost drop now.

[clear moth]

Ghosts, but mostly sugar for me

[winter saffron]

I'm ending the event with 840 scrolls. 100 are dead already. The rest will be planted in The Pumpkinless Patch and given away as prizes mostly.

I can't remember how many I did last year, but this year feels healthy.

[prisma thistle]

I only had 1 AP in the codex from last year. This was a hundred times better.

[winter saffron]

I was just informed that today is not Halloween, so I am in fact not done yet.

[dusk wren]

Primary method was inns + riftbreaks?

[sleek bobcat]

Have you guys discussed about riftnreaksriftbreaks in popular areas? I see many riftbreaks that are completed in 5-10mins and unless I am walking out, I cannot reach them before they are completed

[winter saffron]

Yes. Mainly inns. Riftbreaks were not reliable.

[idle swift]

Honestly I would appreciate any method of balancing the scroll materials...

[dreamy zephyr]

Final feedback from me:

• Trick or treating at Inns was super cool. Great application of GPS element of the game.
• Making event mobs accessible in various content forms (eg towers) was great as it meant players had multiple ways to access event mats.
• Refined Sugar was a huge bottle neck for me.
• Spawning patterns for riftbreaks was a bit frustrating. Its extremely rare that I have time to wander around looking for things in game, which meant I was only able to access two riftbreaks in the month.

[junior cargo]

Did riftbreak spawns for the ToT one get lowered at some point mid month? I thought I remember the amount of event mobs being decent when it started but now seems so unreliable.

House of Horrors riftbreak did allow me to balance my materials a lot better though

[slow bramble]

With the rift breaks they arent reliable if u stay in them but if u reset it u can easily farm hundred of the mat u need

And even with the house of horrors if u reset it just to get sugar u cam pull over 300 mats did that yesterday lol

[sudden fulcrum]

I Hope they will re-use the idea with the Inns at some different Events. It was fun to Visite them all.

[native rampart]

This year was significantly easier to farm, I was also facing a sugar bottleneck but some of that could have been avoided if I hadn't been focusing on conqueror. The only change I'd like to see is to get rid of mini events that dilute the hallowed mobs in dungeons.

[clear moth]

^I think this is my only main feedback as well. However the house of horrors was an awesome way to focus on the low mat.

I had a great time this event and rounded out 300 scrolls this month. Very fun

[winter saffron]

40 more today for 880 for the month. It was a blast chasing the low mat.

[clear moth]

Huge wow. Almost 30 scrolls a day. That is awesome work Lamp 💪

[winter saffron]

They will be my primary prize for tournament winners at the UBC.

[native rampart]

Nice, I ended up with a little over 600, so about 30 each workday

[restive silo]

So what made the house of horror different? I'd drive through it a few times but was focused on other things, so not sure what made it special.

[clear moth]

It was everything you wanted in an event rift break. All event mobs

[clear moth]

What is UBC?

[tribal bolt]

Unfelled Battle Club, its a PvP Oriented Discord that hosts Blades of Finesse Tournaments

[slow bramble]

(527) killed 20 of them during the felling event

Great event thank you odie

[tight bluff]

Finished with 1,355 total farmed between me and my two alts (all solo rifts).

[lusty prawn]

I just wanted to say that i really enjoyed what NF did with inns for this event. The rest of the time they're pretty much 100% useless, it was nice to have something to do with them and i hope it will give them some ideas to rework them 👍

[winter saffron]

Inns are not useless to me. Not utilizing them for what they offer doesn't mean no one is.

#questingguild

[whole stump]

👍

[lusty prawn]

Considering the rewards of quest, i suppose their only purpose is to complete them for the fame and for the global rank 🙂

[winter saffron]

Again, not 100% useless. Only useless by players who choose not to use them.

[winter saffron]

Again, not useless. 😄 I feel fancy.

[dry cobalt]

What's that???

[hybrid cove]

a questing beast imo

[dry cobalt]

Oh thanks, I thought it was a mimic

[hybrid cove]

honestly, it could be

[whole stump]

That's what a mimic would say!

[winter saffron]

[winter saffron]

You are a gentleman and a scholar.

https://tenor.com/view/bow-honor-bowing-down-formal-bow-honor-gif-15998984674314455977

[cold mantle]

100k is GF QB

Gots lots to work towards then

[native rampart]

The real question is do we get access to the questing beast follower after 100k quest completions

[cold mantle]

#QuestingGuild

[winter saffron]

Can confirm

[mortal kestrel]

(Lamp, it's called "Great Questing Beast")

[winter saffron]

Awe frick

[whole stump]

Quick, repost it

[winter saffron]

You know, sometimes you try to be so cool...