#(Fey) Menja Gear

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midnight rock
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This is a place to gauge people's opinions strictly on (Fey) Menja Gear.
Please be civil while discussing :)

muted panther
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The only piece I see with real potential is the chest as a niche defensive piece for dukedom defensive, everything else is just not good

primal copper
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why the staff has only 15%VD and same slots as surtr sword. ¿ couldn't they make as good as helhest as wizard VD weapon?

muted panther
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I was kinda hoping her gear would boost offensive power as when I think of a war mage I think of a back lines fighter launching powerful artillery spells

upper nest
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I genuinely don't see the how the warstaff would ever be used, it's very disappointing for pure mages and if someone wanted to run hybrid there are way better options unless if it's some very niche experimental build like gilgamage sequencer.

Battlerobe is not bad, kinda needs specific scenarios with the existence of surtr's cuirass but could still be useful

I don't see anyone ever using the hood if they have an ONC (which they should from the questline). It has the same special effects, more slots, more ward, more balanced def/res. It needing greater souls for upgrading makes it even more of a tough sell for me

Shield is terrible, negative ward doesn't play well with the reflect offhand at all and even more so when it has no innate defense

upper nest
short patio
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Here's some stat comparisons between Fey Menja gear and other similar/comparable pieces.
Using 185% (average ornate) GF via Rawrbot !assessat, then with all 2% ward adorns.
Commentary included. I'll add some proper thoughts separately.

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Fey Menja's Hood: 1264 def, 474 res, 29%+16% = 45% ward, 4% crit, t.mag-/-- immune
Best comparisons:
Old Nothren Crown: 1499 def, 1499 res, 31%+20% = 51% ward, 386 MP, various immunes
125% Old Nothren Crown: 1021 def, 1021 res, 21%+20% = 41% ward, 263 MP, various immunes
Fey Yeti Horns: 982 def, 982 res, 31%+22% = 53% ward
Arisen Fey Banshee Veil: 1578 def, 1657 res, 0%+16% = 16% ward, -492 HP, -492 MP

There aren't many mage-usable headpieces with high def and nonzero ward. And getting ONC in a good quality is hard (on average), so I added a lower quality for more realistic comparison.
FYH is probably the best comparison, and vs that you gain some def but lose res and ward.
AFey Banshee has even higher def and has res to match, but no innate ward and further reduction from HP/MP cuts.

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Fey Menja's Battlerobe: 1533 def, 313 res, 40%+16% = 56% ward
Best comparisons
Fey Surtr's Cuirass: 1175 def, 1175 res, 66%+16% = 82% ward
Fey Yeti Coat: 1059 def, 1059 res, 34%+16% = 50% ward, 593 HP, 593 MP
Arisen Fey Banshee Robe: 1578 def, 1657 res, 23%+16% = 39% ward, -492 HP, -492 MP

Has a very good amount of ward (FSC notwithstanding) and very high def, beaten only by AFey Banshee there.

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Fey Menja's Shield: 1018 res, -1% ward, 1 slot, Reflect skill
Best comparisons:
Fey Surtr's Shield: 1057 def, 1057 res, -114% ward, 1 slot
Beguiled Mystic Katar: 210 def, 153% ward, 4% crit, 4 slots, Counterattack 2 skill
Argent Shield: 683 res, 113% ward
Arisen Wolven Tower Shield: -125 att, -125 mag, 790 def, 790 res, 149% ward

This shield's niche is a high-res offhand that doesn't destroy your ward. That said, I'm not how useful a niche that is, since you could trade off a few hundred points of res to more than double your ward.
If you were looking for a countering offhand, I think you'd take the Beguiled Mystic Katar.

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Fey Menja's Warstaff: 1018 att, 1292 mag, 31%+16% = 47% ward, 3% crit, 252 MP, 15% VD
Best comparisons:
Fey Surtr's Sword: 1298 att, 1298 mag, 3% crit, 147 dex, 168 MP, 20% VD
Arisen Fey Crowsong: 1766 att, 1766 mag, 100 dex, -100 HP, -100 MP
Arisen Fey Macha Pillar: 1856 mag, 23%+16% = 39% ward, -262 HP, -262 MP
Arisen Kaladanda: 1497 mag, 584 mana
Arisen King's Sceptre: 1140 mag, 40%+16% = 56% ward, 1% crit

For pure mages: it has relatively low mag, but sizeable ward in its place. May be a good pick over Arisen King's Sceptre if you're using that, but I'm not sure that sees much use outside of Summoner?
You almost certainly wouldn't use it in place of AFey Macha, too much mag loss. But may be a more reasonable pick if you're still using the midrange weapon options.
For hybrids: It's the only one-handed hybrid weapon I could find with ward. Loses a lot of raw power vs an AFey Crowsong. It is also a staff, so potentially allows for hybrid Sequencer shenanigans.
For VD: why. Who thought 15% VD was a sensible amount to put on it 😅 Even fully adorned it doesn't beat even an Arisen Gazing Staff, let alone approach the meta options.

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So, conclusions:
1. I also expected the staff to be geared towards power, but it looks more like a piece for hybrid builds and relatively ungeared mages.
It would be nice if it leaned more into a damaging identity IMO. More mag, a passive or something, that sorta thing.
2. The head and chest seem alright, they compare reasonably with other options. Could stand to gain a lil def/res though?
Snotra makes def ~irrelevant, so a hard sell in a lot of content, though has a use in pvp and towers if you know specifically you're fighting something that dgaf about res
3. I'm not sure what you could do with the shield to make it more noteworthy without completely changing up its identity
4. VD on the staff. Please either put it up to 20% like the others, or remove the VD and give it something useful instead

surreal epoch
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'best gear around' was advertised for drops for this new raid boss. I am not really seeing it, especially with non Hel/Surtr stuff

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Not going to give specifics because it really does apply to every single piece imo

muted panther
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Very in depth Mein

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I think the snotra point is pretty important, as the skill is used so widely.

lofty juniper
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I agree with chow mein

lofty juniper
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Just to add the biggest gaps to me are on fey war staff and fey surtr sword… both need a sizable boost in offense stats to make them competitive and chase worthy. Otherwise would rather save scrolls for a morri (afcrow and afmp) since scrolls for this event = trash clearing for runes anyways

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Would love to see warstaff / surtr sword from fey snake around 1500 at gf, would be 200-300 weaker than a morri but quite interesting utility wise

muted panther
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1500+ some effects/passives would be cool

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Kinda like how the ymir zaltys staff heals

lofty juniper
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Just a thought: maybe slightly higher mag and then a cool passive such as 15% speed up baked in (similar to Oceanus lungs) to both the staff and sword

muted panther
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Ooh bulky psedo sequencer, pretty cool

lofty juniper
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@midnight rock this is going to fold into your ORN post?

midnight rock
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Possibly probably maybe

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That being said the ORN post already links here, so the proposed suggestions should be seen.
But adding them wouldn't be a bad idea anyway.

surreal epoch
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5%-15% quick cast or 5%-15% double cast would be sweet

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Good suggestion

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Forces you to sacrifice other options too so feels balanced depending on exact %

primal copper
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for the armor and helm, how sound either changing the mag to 90 (half of heretic robe) or % of autocasting t mag+ and t. mag++?