How to actually fix krunker, an analysis + advice (refer to pinned messages)

[digital ledge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fI879_283DqMGCuLlSJdmBVMVaMQYR2x-2PSK7vlXGc/edit?usp=sharing ^^

`Movement, ADS, or weapon balancing are not the root of Krunker's spawnkilling issue. It is brought on by out-of-date spawnlogic, poorly designed maps, and insufficient spawn spots. Band-aid solutions won't work. The game's structure has to be changed. here a TL;DR / summary of the google doc

Core fixes:

• Dynamic spawn system
• More spawn points on every map
• Map redesign
• Temporary band aids
• Rewrite legacy code
• Telemetry and testing

What to not do:

• ADS changes, movement nerfs, health tweaks, punishments for spawnkillers. none of these adress the core issue

To sum it all up:
To permanently fix spawnkilling, krunker must rewrite the spawn system, add more spawns, redesign flawed map geometry, implement dynamic spawns and test everything with actual data.
**under this post of mine a google doc with a full explanation has been posted by a moderator (written by me), please read it as it contains more context and may already address questions/concerns regarding this suggestions`
via @fringe blade

[fringe blade]

thanks my hero pancito

ping me if you have questions and read the doc pls, it gives context to the solutions

[obtuse nexus]

I am probably going to upvote but I will first take my time to read it 😅

[fringe blade]

I forgot to add reactions, thanks for mentioning it, I understand it takes some time but I strongly recommend it since it enhances the logic/context on given solutions

[cobalt yacht]

I’m so inspired @fringe blade

you’re making your moves in KB

new man

[fringe blade]

What do you think @cobalt yacht

Of the idea

[cobalt yacht]

You said how to fix krunker

And spoke about 1 topic only

😭

[fringe blade]

I think that is the situation we are in, spawns are the problem

[cobalt yacht]

I’d say the spawns are pretty bad yea

but you can’t just say the ads enforcing is bad

[fringe blade]

I compare it with a band aid solution, basically meaning its purpose is to serve as a temporary solution, while devs figure out the real solution

[cobalt yacht]

The spawn idea that you came up with isn’t bad

[minor rock]

too many words im downvoting

[fringe blade]

😭

How to actually fix krunker, an analysis + advice (refer to pinned messages)

[soft kettle]

ong i read it all

our saviour

@fringe blade

[urban sapphire]

dude

i thought u talked to an actual map maker already and found out alot of this stuff isnt possible

and spawns are the root issues to spawn traps, which isnt what 0.5 ads is trying to solve brooo 😔

[weak seal]

Good thread if possible

Just way too hard to test

We've tried this exact solution 3 years ago @paper swan 😭

Just some players don't play the game enough or are involved

[paper swan]

This person sounds like a nerd emoji

More spawns is actually worse

been tested

[weak seal]

😭

I read his document

and I was like "WOW"

this guy is not involved at all

[soft kettle]

for pubs ?

[paper swan]

only thing i agree is that devs need to just change the code for spawns

[weak seal]

rs

[minor rock]

print more money so there is less poor ppl

[paper swan]

You reply to me too fast please go touch grass

[weak seal]

https://tenor.com/view/catwait-cat-wagging-tail-gif-15164511416751561383

[minor rock]

bro is flexing link perm

[weak seal]

what role do u need for link perm

[soft kettle]

kb doesnt have a touching grass emote

lowkey slacking

[soft kettle]

ur role

mod

[weak seal]

fr??

that sucks

[paper swan]

That’s why the mod posted for midbait

[minor rock]

idk its mod prob

[paper swan]

Document is a big nothing burger blended with iinfinite burger because it asks for no solutions with infinite solutions all at the same time 😭

[weak seal]

flipbait will not beat the chat gpt allegations ever

[weak seal]

what i thought too

told him in modmail also

guess he kept it the same

[paper swan]

💤

[weak seal]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jordan-mj-laugh-michael-jordan-laugh-michael-jordan-no-gd-factory-gif-12988437911705674771

[fringe blade]

So no real critique?

That's a shocker

[minor rock]

u sucks

[weak seal]

🍿

[fringe blade]

Real

[fringe blade]

Can you be more specific?

[minor rock]

when the reply is longer than the post ....

[paper swan]

Just to evaluate the nothing burger

1. There are many more knowledgeable people who have said the same thing so i will let it slide. I’ve personally been saying it that yes, spawn logic needs to be fixed. This point starts off strong only because everyone and their mother with a brain cell will agree
2. “Modern Joke for FPS” tbh i see worse spawn trapping in COD maps which is essentially what this games hard point esport bounced off of. Moreover, more spawns has been tested multiple times by myself on different maps with upwards of 20 spawns and it actually makes the logic worse. It forces even more specific spawns in some scenarios or had no impact. The small number of spawns essentially forces the game in a non spawn trap scenario to send u further than normal. With more spawns it can do half its job to a spawn a medium distance away and the player is still half trapped
3. You ask to move spawns out of the way of common lines but then say that cubbies are bad for spawn movement. Instant contradiction so -1 points
4. Invulnerability timer just means a new timing for people to play around instead of
5. Same as 1 but just repeated i guess?
6. Game is too dead for this to develop. This just sounds like what ranked SHOULD do but can’t because of player count. Either that or game can add more AI like Fortnite
7. Just another thing to add to 5 or 1, but most playtesters (myself included) will just top down view multiple replays to figure out where spawn traps happen and why they happened. If i watched a “bad spawn” happen in real time, with my experience, i can tell you exactly why it happened. Using your brain is the telemetry. (This wouldn’t be terrible but it feels redundant to just add to the nothing burger
8. Spawns aren’t randomized… watch any pro game why else would people “spawn on” also nothing burger: “penalize spawn killers” who is even saying that with a brain

As a salaried engineer, yes trial and error is literally the worst thing in the world to hear, learned that from a professor, but we deal with it and learn to maximize spawns with the trade off that a spawn trap exists… considering triple a titles like cod or bf6 can have just as bad spawn traps then i think Krunker can survive 😭

I just have no idea why anything past 1 even needed to be added to a document

“Devs just need to prioritize recoding spawns” 👍👎

[weak seal]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-is-finished-cooked-finished-dog-closing-eyes-dog-with-eyes-closed-gif-8933440936102921947

[paper swan]

It was that simple all along 😭

[weak seal]

LOOL

i told flipbait in the thread a week ago, literally just typing words just to say it

[paper swan]

and he’s talking about Telemetry and heatmaps like he’s spent more than 10 minutes in the editor 😭

[weak seal]

i read that portion

i was like

"what the fuck"

remember there is a line limit @fringe blade , paragraphs are good here

[urban sapphire]

ur a piece of shit

[weak seal]

[fringe blade]

Thanks for the specific part

1. Im not claiming to be the first person that says spawn logic needs fixing, im outlining why currently the logic is failing and where the foundation breaks. Agreeing doesn't make my point redundant.
2. Cod compariso: its not relevant unless the underlying logic is the same, which isn't. And If testing shows it made it worse, send the scenarios to devs so they can evaluate the mechanics instead of an anecdote.
3. The contradiction you mention is based on your own interpretation. The goal is avoiding predictable spawntraps without sticking spawns in dead end cubbies. That's a design direction not a conflict.
4. I think this should be tested before taking conclusions with trial and error, like you told us trial and error, can't know for sure if its something that works or not if you have not tested it
5. The rest is just filler stuff that adds nothing to what I wrote or attacking me on points i haven't mentioned in my draft, don't attribute it to this argument
6. And lastly, you tell me that I should use my brain for telemetry??? What a great and totally not thought about argument, how can you expect the new devs to know all these kinds of analysis that you can perform but they can't since they sont have the experience? Give em some help for God sake

[weak seal]

am i giving u ptsd

[urban sapphire]

LOL

[fringe blade]

Yes, but only 7 lines used this time instead of the restrictions that are put in place

[weak seal]

good

I hope u realize everything u said though

is like common sense

except some things

that just come with experience playtesting and being in the editor

i took my upvote because it's literally just a block of words

if ur document had detailed clips or videos, or even portions of krunk editor

[minor rock]

who use editor when u can make map with editing JSON in file

[fringe blade]

I made my document in response to glen telling me to post a suggestion for the game instead of pinging him

So i did

Instead of basing it off your suggestions, @weak seal , which has been suggested by some, I wanted to shed some light on it

[weak seal]

yeah im just lyk ur same suggestion was said in a townhall 1 year and 2 months ago by some random dude and everybody agreed

[paper swan]

1. And knowledgeable people (map makers) know why the logic is failing as well
2. It just feels lazy you mentioning all these “fixes” when someone with actual map making experience (ME!!!!) already knows all these issues by heart and has shared them with devs before it’s just like baby’s first steps towards consciousness

[fringe blade]

Bcs @urban sapphire thinks bcs I mentioned other ideas, that I based this one on it

[paper swan]

i think a non-map maker talking about spawn logic is like a non-pro player talking about gun balance changes

[weak seal]

heavy on point 2

[paper swan]

It’s just a giant regurgitation so you can feel something when the devs maybe do a fix like “HEY!!! I RECOMMENDED THAT AFTER EVERYONE ELSE BUT I PUT IT IN A GIANT NOTHING BURGER DOCUMENT FOR UPVOTES ON DISCORD THREADS!!”

[fringe blade]

Okay, but as I addressed before, I made this bcs glen said to give your ideas a try in the forum so I did what I was told, and idk why it makes you feel like im the one that is lazy to have posted this, but that certainly isn't the point im trying to make

I do as I was told by glen, and if that makes you feel attacked then I think that that issue is one YOU should take care of and not me

[paper swan]

I’m not attacked 🤣 it’s just silly to see the same idea spat out once a year by a different person who thinks it’ll spark a revolution

[weak seal]

can't play victim then push everything onto glen

he just told u that u can post ur suggestion bro with free will

which was already common sense

this is an incredible suggestion

#1443586536313458750 message

@soft kettle ill give it to u

[soft kettle]

🤔

[weak seal]

A lot of suggestions are considered lazy

just 1 sentence "fix spawns"

a plan of action is a great suggestion

this is good

no sarcasm @soft kettle , even if I disagree with ur approach and philosphy

this gives the devs a plan of action

[fringe blade]

Okay, let's not deviate from the subject

[fringe blade]

Weird sarcasm dude, I just thought I would bring it up since asokra discusses so many ideas with glen, that I thought this was the perfect time for it, and calling me lazy or saying it feels lazy is indeed framed as a personal attack so im very right in saying this is a direct attack towards me

[weak seal]

no deviation

we just agree with u

it's just like

cool suggestion dude

[soft kettle]

thanks

[weak seal]

idk what to tell u

[paper swan]

I think it becomes full of itself when it needs to be put in a google doc

shit did not need to be a google doc

[weak seal]

I feel like in kb the past week u've spent more time getting personal and u did in the google doc a bit

[paper swan]

“How to actually fix Krunker, an analysis” except you haven’t spent time in the editor or attached any clips so how is it analysis”

also adding “actually” makes it personal 🤣 😭

[fringe blade]

No way its this deep kid

I called you out for attacking me

And ur like this

[paper swan]

you turned a one sentence suggestion into a google doc talkin bout deep 😭

[fringe blade]

To give context

[paper swan]

context was essentially made in Point 1.

[fringe blade]

And so it can be understood by other people than you?

You are not my target audience

[paper swan]

It could have been a paragraph that was just point 1 and that would have been fine

your target audience won’t want to open a google doc either

[fringe blade]

That's why I added a tl;dr

?

Actual brain fog in ur head dude

[fringe blade]

If that is how you see it, then you see it like that

[weak seal]

calling the guy that actually knows what he is talking abt "brain fog"

[fringe blade]

Yes

[weak seal]

everybody sees it

[fringe blade]

Bcs he says its too long and ppl need to open a Google doc

While quite literally under it is a summary

[weak seal]

open a google doc with absolute dogshit

[fringe blade]

So basically proving his argument wrong?

[weak seal]

no analysis

[fringe blade]

If that's your way of wording critique

[paper swan]

because nothing has real substance to the general player base besides point #1 which has been agreed upon since the ancient times

[fringe blade]

That's your way

Very weird way if you are in the power position you are in to say things this way

But you do you

[paper swan]

i have no power anymore i just know what im doing when im asked to do it

[weak seal]

have u taken the time to look at the editor

[fringe blade]

Im talking to asokra

Being salty

[weak seal]

you're a role collector at heart

ive never seen u be involved with players and pickups ever

this document just proved to me even more

[paper swan]

My Krunker husband 😍

[weak seal]

u would have never made this thread if i didnt make the past 2 threads

because u simply don't care

[fringe blade]

Proof?

Give me actual facts this time

Not your opinion that bcs i referenced your suggestions so that must be it

[weak seal]

Explain why it's braindead in the thread!

[fringe blade]

U don't know my time in tier 2? That's sad to say the least

[weak seal]

Emotions!

[fringe blade]

Speculation

All circumstantial evidence

I can say the same about your title "discussed with glen"

[weak seal]

do u know who developed the concept ?

[weak seal]

Glen tells us to put that

like u said glen told u to put ur suggestion

[uneven hornet]

i respect his opinions and must be taken into serious consideration

[fringe blade]

Okay

Still all speculation and circumstantial evidence

[minor rock]

bro what they keep yapping in this post since the begining ?

[fringe blade]

No definitive proof

[weak seal]

More krunker less personal stuff -> 🌹

[fringe blade]

Idk someone is accusing me of stuff I didn't do

Basing it on speculation

[minor rock]

gimme my money back flopbait

my 500$

[fringe blade]

No

[minor rock]

ok :(

[fringe blade]

I put it on red

[weak seal]

the thread ended here basically

unless u edit on the doc with actual analysis

any testing we can do in comp testing discord

[fringe blade]

idk man

seems like ur just salty and saying stuff without giving actual proof of me basing it on your suggestions

you feel attacked, bcs its based on your suggestions, proceeds to give me screenshots that add nothing to support his claim

[weak seal]

u need a break

[fringe blade]

no, busy with going to the gym in the evenings

[fringe blade]

not really

ur telling me I base it off something I didn't do, ur assuming and ur assumptions are wrong

that I do know

[weak seal]

are we talking abt the original thread?

[weak seal]

should've closed from here

[fringe blade]

wait you are telling me to not deviate? when you start to deviate yourself? @weak seal and now that you don't like where something is going you try to use my argument against myself?

hold on you repeated yourself again buddy

[weak seal]

oh i left it there

i dont need to provide evidence

literally everyone sees it

some things are just pretty clear

[fringe blade]

and now ur ignoring me

what a dude

telling me to talk abt the original thread, but when I show you the times you start to deviate multiple times in the thread you try to now play it off as something everyone clearly can see?

I hope people can clearly see this aswell

[minor rock]

KPC owner against NACK owner

[indigo vessel]

top ten best KB thread

[minor rock]

average comp community

[fringe blade]

asokra has his grudges

we cant change that

[weak seal]

Do you know the history of Asokra?

[fringe blade]

are you braindeda?

have you not watched my video?

I unlisted it

[minor rock]

#self-promotion

[fringe blade]

and renamed it

its called "asokra's corruption (krunker.io)"

[indigo vessel]

flopbait did you make the document or was that pantico

[fringe blade]

I made it

[weak seal]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-lion-monkey-angry-wisdom-gif-15744115571249218128

[fringe blade]

im gonna start pulling out old cows from the ditch now asokra

[weak seal]

Want me to rename the thread too?

[fringe blade]

so what is it

an appeal from roadman? or from you?

ill happily wait on your response

[weak seal]

Noon who doesn't even interact in the community knew more info abt the situations

[fringe blade]

so you dont answer the question once again and go deviating when you told me to not do it?

like cmon

[abstract dock]

man why we bringing past conversations 😭

[fringe blade]

are you this childish

[weak seal]

bringing up shit from 2023

[abstract dock]

relax

[weak seal]

idek what to say

[abstract dock]

its a discussion page not a blame game

🙏

[weak seal]

Roadman wanted to appeal in vc with me, said he'd do anything. He was going through some shit and he was very disapponted to see u also use all his stuff for attention in a vid

but w/e

at the end of the day, i dunno if he even got unbanned

[fringe blade]

Yet was the one who initiated the chain of events

[weak seal]

u are the only one holding a grudge

having an entire yt video on me

and starting dms off talking abt nme

dunno what to say

still though im kind enough to try and help u

cuz i really dont care abt drama

[urban sapphire]

ayyy help me out too

[indigo vessel]

do we know how spawns currently work

[weak seal]

[fringe blade]

You started questioning my authority first by questioning my activity, I just do the same to you

[fringe blade]

Ur just salty for no reason? Started it yourself in your very first messages

[fringe blade]

I don't but I think devs can contact map makers for info like this

[minor rock]

u click to spawn and u spawn

[indigo vessel]

spawn logic isn't handled by the map

[weak seal]

... baby steps for flipbait

[indigo vessel]

LOL

[fringe blade]

No way ur still mad bro

Can't handle it anymore?

[weak seal]

i have the biggest grin on my face

[fringe blade]

Can't fathom how you have so much hate towards a suggestion, jeez

[weak seal]

the edit is kinda cool

@fringe blade

shouldve kept the original version

[minor rock]

so who won

nack or KPC

[real delta]

Holy shit dumb and dumbass going at it in Krunker bunker threads was not on the Thanksgiving bingo am I right guys?

[fringe blade]

Thanksgiving, lol

[fringe blade]

Its so much better since you are still continuing

[weak seal]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-lion-monkey-angry-wisdom-gif-15744115571249218128

[cobalt yacht]

ngl @fringe blade you lost when you brought up past stuff

[atomic locust]

@fringe blade remember that ur a role collector at heart.

<3

[cobalt yacht]

@fringe blade what happens if he brings up recent stuff of you full ripping it in KPC chat 🤔

[weak seal]

[worthy star]

@fringe blade do you have any items you could send my way to AlterFroX?

[indigo vessel]

bro is everywhere

[worthy star]

Just need some items haha 😂

[weak seal]

he gave them all way in the vid exposing me

[worthy star]

Nooo

Not poggerz

Fs in the chat

[digital ledge]

@cobalt yacht when r u gonna use my monte or astra in a game

[worthy star]

press F to pay respect

[weak seal]

But

[worthy star]

F

[weak seal]

you could win items playing the current NACK season

[worthy star]

Really?

[weak seal]

Yeah!

[worthy star]

[weak seal]

[worthy star]

@tame flame what are your thoughts on this?

[patent sun]

W ad

[worthy star]

[worthy star]

Flipbait be like: the game is bad

Me and asokra be like: yo nah the game is go o d

[fringe blade]

I think it demonstrates rather clearly when it comes to asokra disagreeing with someone how he tends to react

Calling them names, like he did here "role collector at heart" and instead of being able to have a normal conversation he starts out with telling me im not involved enough

Real cheapshot when you resort to calling me names as a comp lead

[weak seal]

You're very two faced

I don't like two faced people

[obtuse nexus]

Okay I read the document

Krunker does not need spawnprotection
And 15-30 spawns is just not viable on any map. You would spawn in a straight lane if this happens
I do agree with your first point, spawn logic should be rewritten in a logical way

[fringe blade]

so you decide the best way to out your feelings is by namecalling?

[weak seal]

it's pixels bro

relax

[weak seal]

More spawns from what ive noticed just confuses the game

Tries to optimize

Closing thread, conclusion has been met

[urban sapphire]

holy aura

the lion has spoken

[weak seal]

Thread unlocked @outer stone @maiden vector @sturdy ibex @kayra

[maiden vector]

lets go guys

[dry carbon]

lowkey might not be kayra idr

ye it was abood not kayra bad coms

[weak seal]

I'll add my input

I love dynamic spawns

[sturdy ibex]

thanks

yeah i for sure dont think this is going to fix the whole game but most of the ideas actually arent all that bad

and i do actually believe the multiple spawn positions are a good idea if the algorithm was to be remade

its obv not a priority as of now as there are bigger fish to fry in the game but I see no reason for it to be shut down

and if tweaked appropriately a short invuln would help against shameless traps where you spawn right into some snipers crosshair

whilst not having any other large effect on the game

unless im missing something

[outer stone]

thanks man

[weak seal]

it's just things like this

it sounds good

but even games like quake

have sucky spawns

[formal lava]

Maybe adding an in-game randomized spawn delay could help with spawntrapping

[weak seal]

or just an increased spawn delay which we are testing this weekend

we'll see how that goes

these are easier changes

[formal lava]

Ye bc usually if im getting spawntrapped id js manually spawn delay but most people dont even know that mechanic

[obtuse nexus]

From a map perspective it doesn't make sense too.
So many corners, sight lines and seperate areas would have to be added to make it work

[soft kettle]

several others spawn incase ur not spawnning

maybe backup spawn points
if a player is in a close vicinity of the specific spawn u spawn in same area but on that backup spawn

if player is in red box 1
u spawn on green spawn 2
if theres also a player in red box 2
u spawn on green spawn 3

and this spawn should be put behind the box which basically deletes that spawn trap

[weak seal]

but if it gets put behind the box

people would never spawn on

It's super weird and hard to explain

we've tried so many of these theories

especially on site

[soft kettle]

wdym

ohh like someone can sit there forever and have nobody spawn on him

could be shifted to the box where i was standing then

the one behind me

[weak seal]

yeah

just requires a lot of testing

[formal lava]

No because if you are getting spawntrapped the person spawntrapping has to time it and if you know the timing for when they are going to peek they will be inside your zone and you will spawn somewhere else

[soft kettle]

Pubs ?

No

You just keep shooting

[formal lava]

Depends on the type of spawntrap

Im not talking about the broken spawntraps where you just aim your crosshair and shoot

[soft kettle]

That's spawn camp then

Trap is where u don't even let them move

[gaunt hinge]

a lot of this is just bs

wont work

whoever thought of all of this just has no experience

[pastel moth]

I agree with LeBron lookalike above me

[outer stone]

just lower ttk not change ads power

[formal lava]

its literally the same thing

an easy fix would be like a short invuln period and that would almost guarantee a stop to the shameless spawnkilling

[soft kettle]

not rlly

u can camp every single spawn in every single map

u cant trap every single spawn

traps are the issue not the camps

coz in traps u just stand still and shoot endlessly

[formal lava]

Spawn traps are the easier fix

Literally all you have to do is add invulnerability for like .8 seconds and its enough for them to turn around and shoot you

[urban sapphire]

That works

[minor rock]

oh god plz no

it gonna ruin the pubs

the goal is to kill other ppl before they can even shoot

[formal lava]

???

[formal lava]

genuinely what 😭

I mean i guess but if you want an even playing field then no

[soft kettle]

spawn camping will always be a thing

invuln will just punish good players

if they just fix the traps itll be done and dusted

[sturdy ibex]

oh my god i also hate it when the enemies can shoot back

more braindead ais please

i dont get it do we want the game to be better or do we want to spawntrap guests for our artificial nuke counter

cause i can assure you NOBODY has fun when they die without any counterplay

[minor rock]

they have to be better

[sturdy ibex]

whatever man

[formal lava]

yes bc it takes so much skill to sit behind a box and one tap with a sniper as they spawn in

✌️

[soft kettle]

??????

[formal lava]

Why "??" thats basically what ur saying

[soft kettle]

" sit behind a box and one tap with a sniper as they spawn in "

i literally said fixing spawn trapping

use 🧠 ?

[formal lava]

"Invuln will punish good players" if being good is sitting behind a spawn and just one tapping then how are they good

[soft kettle]

are u dumb ?

💀

[formal lava]

How is invulnerability punishing if its only for say .8 seconds and prevents immediate death from a busted spawntrap like the one on kanji where you sit behind the fence

[soft kettle]

how would they sit behind a spawn if they dont exist 💀

[formal lava]

.

[formal lava]

what

[soft kettle]

BCOZ you move the spawn

so people cant sit behind it

coz invulnerability is kinda dumb

[formal lava]

Its not

[soft kettle]

it is

[formal lava]

How..?

[sturdy ibex]

the whole thing about invulnerability is that its a quick fix

[soft kettle]

coz its a fast paced game

[sturdy ibex]

i assure you with the current krunker spawn system you cannot design a map where there are 0 spawn traps

[soft kettle]

u die fast u kill fast u move fast u aim fast

[sturdy ibex]

it would need a whole remake

[formal lava]

Spawntrapping is a bigger problem because there is no counterplay, when you camp someones spawn they can delay, slow peek, go an opposite direction, etc

[soft kettle]

yea and nobodys against fixing spawntrapping

[formal lava]

So why are u saying invulnerability is stupid if it directly prevents shameless spawntraps without any real downside

[soft kettle]

bcoz its a dumb way of fixing that issue

ur basically guaranteed death if u run into a open spawn and smeone spawns in and theres alot of open spawns

[formal lava]

How is it dumb? would you rather krunker spend months time and resources trying to remake map spawns, not to mention having everything be playtested? would take upwards of months

[formal lava]

I dont think it should be for every spawn on every map, some spawns are well protected and dont have this issue, but for other spawns where there are known spawntraps it should be added

[soft kettle]

if its gonna be a guaranteed temporary thing then sure maybe
but theres nothing temporary in this game as we saw with those shitty ass classic ffa maps and bazaar which shouldnt even exist rn

[soft kettle]

like the industry 1 site spawn if ur on a streak and someone spawns there while ur running u cant do shit ud instantly die

and theres soo many of those spawns

[formal lava]

the one on the double box?

[minor rock]

on site A

[formal lava]

Yeah theres multiple spawns on that site, the one on the double box ur talking abt??

[minor rock]

spawn 1 is the spawn in front of the site A with the double box yes

[formal lava]

Not really, as soon as the person with invulnerability shoots it should go away to prevent smt like that from happening

[urban sapphire]

Yeh bro

🔥 🔥

Ur him

[pastel moth]

Tell em

Bunch of members

Ha tfu

[soft kettle]

🤔

[fleet osprey]

How to fix Krunker How to fix spawns

i like the direction tho

Making the game more enjoyable for newer players, definetly a priority