Force all players (across all modes) on 0.5-1ads (Discussed with Glen & Comp Admins)

[tired flume]

This is from a competitive standpoint. The meta has evolved and revolved around players running around at 200+ speed, and perfectly tracking people with peekers advantage. This makes holding a site extremely difficult e.g 2nd site industry. This disadvantage for defenders has forced players to gain speed on site and then run off as soon as attackers are about to push as seen in: https://www.twitch.tv/krunkerna/clip/CrunchySincereLocustShadyLulu-VmmaYsAe--4TSn9M?filter=clips&range=7d&sort=time

Forcing players on 0.5-1ads will make it harder for people to run around and track people while being on a high ads. This also applies to players who are roaming. This overall makes the experience for players and tournament viewers much better as it slows down the game and makes it easier for viewers to understand what's going on and makes a more healthy hardpoint experience.

Experiments done with 1 ADS (3 years ago): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVCeq3YQnLA&list=PLLIe5ajJNIW5siHr70UMoCtkLEXqGHcqn
1v1 done with 1 ADS (1 day ago): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z62Eu_ijMMA
More examples:
https://youtu.be/wHXptRJmL64
https://youtu.be/ZzMMbP2vGpw

@carmine plaza made it

[carmine plaza]

alright

^ i wrote this up so flame me if u disagree

[flat thistle]

meee

first

[austere patio]

[hardy lodge]

this is very haram

[dusky urchin]

Yea, i agree with this. Having a fixed ads fov would not only solve that “issue”, it also remove the suggestions/thoughts of movement speed nerf as an increased and fixed ads fov would naturally fix this issue without touching the movement

[hardy lodge]

500 movement speed with .5 ads kinda makes no sense

also takes away the uniqueness from kruster

we can just play krunker strike atp

kruster strike FTW

💪

someone make a thread for shutting down io and migrating to kruster strike

thanks

[mortal talon]

imagine trying to make good people worse instead of trying to make bad ppl better 😭

[severe shard]

imagine a guy in the opponent team havin boulder and you have 1ads

aimin boutta be so dead

[hardy lodge]

even tehchy wouldnt approve of these dogshit

if this gets approved we might aswell get back the unlimited wall jump smg , 5 bullet sniper , 350 damage shotgun

[nova pewter]

ok

I dont agree

[hardy lodge]

or better just force people to play krunker strike instead of forcing some dogshit onto poeple

[harsh bramble]

[naive plover]

No

[harsh bramble]

If you wanna peak and have a slow paced comp match go to Val or Cs krunker isn’t for you

[hardy lodge]

we have krunker strike

thats PERFECT

[harsh bramble]

😂

[hardy lodge]

unlimited ZOOM

no slidehopping

no fast ttk

[nova pewter]

hi

[harsh bramble]

But honestly if u want a slow paced comp game krunker isn’t for you

[flat thistle]

u say this but all it is is bringing back the game to how it was

[carmine plaza]

this "uniqueness" was added in 2021 after its prime

[flat thistle]

yea facts

[hardy lodge]

ok we should remove slide hopping and allat too

[flat thistle]

why?

[hardy lodge]

or we are not suppposed to piss off parkour andys ? and can only piss off pubstompers and stuff

[flat thistle]

why do u take it to the extreme

[hardy lodge]

why piss off specific group of people just piss of everyone right

[flat thistle]

no change will make everyone happy

[hardy lodge]

ok then chuck in the movement deletion too

[flat thistle]

nothing can fulfill what everyone likes

[hardy lodge]

make everyone mad at once

[flat thistle]

bro u genuinely need to get ur brain checked

whats ur iq score

[hardy lodge]

its not wrong

?

[flat thistle]

must be sub 80

[hardy lodge]

why ruin the game bit by bit just do it in 1 go

[flat thistle]

it is wrong

?

nah ur either just a ragebaiter

[hardy lodge]

i dont rage bait coz i dont need to

just the truth

[flat thistle]

theres no truth

[hardy lodge]

[flat thistle]

u realize the games prime was with 1 ads

if anything people will like it more

[hardy lodge]

nobody was slide hopping at 500 speed too that time

so lets goo full reverse

instead of half assed reverse

[flat thistle]

u can still go fast with higher ads

just a higher skill ceiling

[hardy lodge]

yea but the " games prime " didnt have going fast

why make exception there

[flat thistle]

u dont know what youre talking about

and everyone can see it

[hardy lodge]

pubs died coz of this same bullshit

as 100-150 people cried ab deleting cw

same is happening here

[flat thistle]

0.5 ads wont make the game die

[hardy lodge]

let people play how they like playing it why force some bs on them

krunker strike exists for slow paced high ttk 200 ads power comp gameplay

[flat thistle]

almost no game lets u adjust ads

[hardy lodge]

we can play comp on there

and play pubs on io

😃

[flat thistle]

u should of never been able to adjust ads

no games lets you

[hardy lodge]

ok ? no game lets u slide hop at 500 speed either

or have zero recoil

[flat thistle]

?

the game was made without u letting u change ur ads

i dont know if u understand that

[hardy lodge]

anyways no point this will have a good chunk of downvotes only

and even if after all that it comes in game

then we can delete all this suggestion bs

coz itll be useless

👍

[flat thistle]

ok unrelated what changes would u like to see to the game @hardy lodge

[hardy lodge]

change default settings to .5 ads or lower instead

[carmine plaza]

its not like it wasnt possible for people to go fast on lmg back then

there was a clip of bambi going like 500 speed in a weekly but i cant find it

[hardy lodge]

few off instances

anyways arguing is pointless as downvotes are guaranteed

just a waste of time for both sides let the votes speak

[carmine plaza]

we are gathering feedback

like damn 😭

we learn more from what u guys type

[flat thistle]

he has a rock in his head

[carmine plaza]

im just reading what u guys are saying and its like not good points

the game wasnt made with being able to change ur ads and it was arguably way better when u couldnt

and idk why u guys are under the impression that krunker is meant to be fast paced

[hardy lodge]

add it to comp preset and enjoy playing on that dont ruin the game for others

nobody will complain

[carmine plaza]

if its slowly incremented

for example an increase of 0.1 ads every month

people will get used to it

[hardy lodge]

could go other way too

[carmine plaza]

wdym

[hardy lodge]

slowly bring default settings down to .1-.2

[carmine plaza]

ultimately low ads causes more problems

[hardy lodge]

how

[carmine plaza]

i addressed them above

[flat thistle]

facts

[hardy lodge]

low ads is necessary coz of fast pace movement so just address the core issue of fast movement

and nerf that

[carmine plaza]

ye we will see peoples response to a movement nerf

just seeing what it is for ads

thing is movement is already nerfed for comp but it needs to be nerfed more

but then people will be playing a different game in pubs and comp if its nerfed more

[carmine plaza]

and the core issue isnt fast movement

its how you are able to aim really easily while moving fast

[flat thistle]

someone who isnt moving vs someone who is moving, the guy moving auto wins most of the time because its easy to aim while moving, but if ads is higher, moving and shooting will add more skill

[hardy lodge]

if movement is nerfed itll make easier for people not moving to kill the people who are moving

[carmine plaza]

yea but theres this issue

@hardy lodge

[hardy lodge]

they alrdy are with the current movement cap

[carmine plaza]

yea and its not enough

[hardy lodge]

will just make em better at movement in comp due to it being even more capped and slowly they will automatically get better at movement everywhere

[carmine plaza]

nah thats just not how it works

and having a game work differently in different modes just hurts the user experience

especially for low level people

[hardy lodge]

could try both on comp presets for 4-6 months each and then come on to a conclusion

[carmine plaza]

its common sense though it doesnt need to be tested

low ads is making the game more and more aids

as people get better

it also makes it easier for players to just hard tdm and roam and stomp bad players

new players are playing against pub players who are zooming at heinous speeds and getting full beamed

[hardy lodge]

thats a issue caused by unfair teams

[carmine plaza]

that cant be good for user retention

[carmine plaza]

your right but its still an issue that we wont see fixed for a while

and that doesnt include the other negative things low ads brings

[hardy lodge]

like for example my last comp game it was 2v3 2v3.5
if i didnt tdm that game we wouldve lost basically
if teams were fair we wouldve just focused more on stacking same for the other side

[carmine plaza]

no i know and i agree

[hardy lodge]

removing 0 ads alone forcing people to play .1 made kb get spammed for well over a week with non stop hate imagine what .5 would do

people absolutely hated that change this is like 10x worse version of it

[carmine plaza]

people like it because it makes the game easier

but it ultimately does more damage than good as players get better and better

like imagine csgo removed recoil and spray patterns

because it made the game easier

[hardy lodge]

there are 1000 other changes and fixes that can be made to make the game better instead of pissing off people

[carmine plaza]

yea but like ur just thinking in the short term

if this game wants to be more competitvely orientated, tournament streams and whatnot need to be viewer friendly

[hardy lodge]

yea bcoz 1 step at a time
sid did the same bs promised big shit and told us to forget ab the small things and those big things never happened

[carmine plaza]

yea so we can slowly increment ads power

1 step at a time right

[humble schooner]

What's wrong with the tournaments right now

I enjoyed watching the last one

[carmine plaza]

well the main thing is that the spectator cam that views sites is like pointless

[humble schooner]

Every game was super close

[carmine plaza]

in a hardpoint mode. most of the action is happening on the other side of the map

[hardy lodge]

then just change comp preset for tourneys all the t1 andys are good anyways they can adapt to it easily and make people play pickups on same settings

[carmine plaza]

where people are just roaming the map

[carmine plaza]

how is this logical though

😭

[hardy lodge]

making changes and focusing on a small minority of the game isnt logical either while everyone else is left to rot

[carmine plaza]

it applies to everyone

why does the game have to be easy to be enjoyable anyway

[hardy lodge]

bcoz core playbase of the game plays on chromebooks thats why pubs are easy and comp should have a diff preset

like it does rn

which is more catered towards how comp is played and how it should be played

[carmine plaza]

no other game does this either

[hardy lodge]

other games dont run on chromebooks either

or browsers

[carmine plaza]

uhhh

ur right about browsers but

if i run the game at 1000fps on a browser it doesnt really make a difference

[humble schooner]

I mean I was happy with the action that was happening on the point, I would ask you this though: Who are you targetting for viewership and do you take in viewer feedback post tournament

[carmine plaza]

well to be fair the only "viewer" feedback we took was from like 20 comp players in a vc after the tourney

[humble schooner]

Yea and that's fine if you're only targetting comp players for viewership

[carmine plaza]

but it just seems better to see 4 people fighting against 4 on a site rather than the actual fight happening on the othet side of the map, and viewers cant even see it

[carmine plaza]

well no because of this^

[hardy lodge]

if you change ads power of default settings people will automatically feel the diff and become better and better which will only increase retention + there will be nobody to complain about it coz if they wanna continue on 1x they can keep doing so

[carmine plaza]

yea but with low ads comp is resembling less and less of hardpoint

as the years go on

[humble schooner]

What about having angles all over the map? Or switching to a player POV occasionally

[hardy lodge]

yea than that issue can be dealt with comp preset 😭

[carmine plaza]

we could but at the end of the day it still takes away the merit of hardpoint

[carmine plaza]

the root of the problem is the mechanics of the game though

[humble schooner]

So you think theres not enough stacking and full team pushes in tournaments?

[carmine plaza]

well 100% not

teams dont hold site either thy just run off it

not because they want to but they have to

if they stand still and hold site then they will be swung by players on 200 speed who have crazy peekers advantage, and those guys have perfect aim too

its suicide

[hardy lodge]

lowering default ads power is just better as the core player base will find killing people easier and will enjoy the game more
meanwhile the comp andys and others can play however they like on their comp preset
( it makes casual andys better at the game , doesnt piss off anyone , people will happily play comp at harder settings coz them getting better at it will make em better outside of comp too automatically and the main thing player retention itll increase that too and make the make more active )

instead of pissing off existing players
generating alot of hate
one day people will adapt to it but the casual andys will still be stuck where they are and still be in the same situation they are today

[humble schooner]

So what would an ideal comp game look like in your eyes that would be viewer experience friendly

[hardy lodge]

basically krunker strike
slow paced , high ttk

[carmine plaza]

this is so confusing lmao because no one was speaking like this during the peak of krunker

when im sure enjoyment was at its highest

[carmine plaza]

teams used to make actual strats

such as coordinated pushes and holds

rat spots

but that doesnt happen anymore because people dont need to/ cant

because the only way to win is to run off site and roam around the map

an ideal would be players being near to the site most of the time, because its hardpoint after all.

teams cant crutch on running off so they have to make strats

other teams will make anti-strats

and for the viewer its easier to understand whats happening near the site

[hardy lodge]

its not
pubs = easy
comp = actually skiilled
bcoz ur core playerbase is chromebook andys

[carmine plaza]

i guess it wasnt the peak of krunker?

and the casual modes in every other game dont change the core features and mechanics of the game

[hardy lodge]

we dont have slide hop , way to change entire ui and everything of the game , mods in other fps shooters either

[carmine plaza]

that doesnt mean u should be able to change ur ads? im confused

[humble schooner]

Do you have any clips of this, I would like to compare the 2 tbh just to get a better understanding

[carmine plaza]

yea i can try find something

[hardy lodge]

well it doesnt mean we cant have 2 diff presets either which caters towards their respective player bases

[carmine plaza]

well thats what u are suggesting

i didnt suggest that

[humble schooner]

From what I gather though you're saying the game is more entertaining to watch when people werent running off site

Everytime

[hardy lodge]

im not suggesting to make it a thing it alrdy is a thing im saying keep it as it is instead of trying to make it 1 bcoz playerbase of pickups and shit and pubs is polar opposite

[carmine plaza]

They are different modes but still the game game

[hardy lodge]

and why cant we have that

its good as it is

[carmine plaza]

Any game with deathmatch doesn’t change the game features in dm and comp

I’m not gonna remove spray patterns from csgo death match to make that mode easier

[hardy lodge]

any game doesnt have slide hop , way to change entire ui and everything of the game , mods either

[carmine plaza]

Bro 😭

That doesn’t change how the game works tho haha

[hardy lodge]

theres nothing wrong with having 2 modes

casual and competitive

with their individual playstyles

[carmine plaza]

Every game has that but they don’t change the mechanics of the game

Because it’s inconsistent

[hardy lodge]

bcoz the people who play those 2 things dont have the same hardware capabilities and stuff

[hardy lodge]

no it just caters to the specific playerbase and fullfills everyones needs

[carmine plaza]

The game doesn’t have fps sliding anymore so it’s more accessible

[tired flume]

One thing I'll say since I don't know where to jump in

The only games with very low ads powers

are games like quake

that have died out

[hardy lodge]

they can just remove the 1ads handicap from default settings and give casuals a better experience and change shit in comp preset and standardize the comp experience

[tired flume]

It simply accelerates the skill floor to the point new players have no chance

The current zoom values have no meaning because of ADS power

The maps that were made were not made with the intention of u being able to fully see everything the same as hip fire

a lot of things structurally inside krunker are made for 1 ads

now 1 is a stretch so i get 0.5 since a lot has changed

[hardy lodge]

maps can be reworked

[tired flume]

0 ads literally adds no meaning to zoom

there is not a single fps game like that

and if u say quake, well i dont want u to mention quake. we have so many issues similar to quake (terrible viewing experience, etc) im trying to not go on that trajectory for krunker

i want an actual future for the game

[olive grove]

This is for competitive only right

[hardy lodge]

theres not a single game either where u can mute ur footsteps and make enemy footsteps 10x louder

[hardy lodge]

NO

[tired flume]

yes these things have to be changed

[hardy lodge]

for everything

[tired flume]

I know ceafs thread is focusing on a competitive standpoint, but it makes pubstomping actually take skill on 0.5 ads - 1 ads

[carmine plaza]

They don’t understand this

[tired flume]

Literally all this does is make you have to work more for your kills

[tired flume]

yeah

[olive grove]

I think it'd be better if it were for competitive since I think many pubstompers play on .1 .2 for fun that way both are happy no?

[hardy lodge]

why force people into adapting smth instead of removing an existing handicap from the core audience

[carmine plaza]

Because it ultimately is unhealthy for everyone to be on low ads

[humble schooner]

Game has to become more new player friendly for sure

[hardy lodge]

comp doesnt run the game

[carmine plaza]

So it’s better to go higher

[hardy lodge]

pubs does

[tired flume]

it is very unhealthy in general for a sniper to only zoom in just a little bit

same for a semi

[olive grove]

I agree

[tired flume]

this is just accross all gamemodes

even for an ak, other games have spread

[humble schooner]

I cant imagine being new to Krunker in 2025 💀

[tired flume]

we have a HITSCAN 0 ADS weapon

[hardy lodge]

sniper is only broken against unfair teams u know it more than me

[tired flume]

genuinely

most players that came

[hardy lodge]

semi is just busted overall

[tired flume]

came when there was 1 ads

[carmine plaza]

Uhhhh

What? Haha

[tired flume]

If people want a future for Krunker this is the only move forward, I believe there's a lot of in-game features that have to be more standardized as well such as -devil mentioning custom audio values

[hardy lodge]

why nobody plays sniper in tourneys then where everyone has relatively same skill

[olive grove]

I think it's a good recommendation competitively

[carmine plaza]

Because it doesn’t bring value when you kill someone whos already hurt

[hardy lodge]

its good as long as it stays it comp but thats not the case which is why its bad

[carmine plaza]

But in uncoordinated games sniper can tear up

Much easier than on other guns

[tired flume]

comp and pubs shouldnt be seperate

when i joined the community there wasnt seperate gamemodes or speeds

[hardy lodge]

why not both playerbases have polar opposite playing conditions

[tired flume]

brotha the core fundamentals of pubs is rooted in a bunch of bad players who are too scared of playing comp so they stomp terrible players

that is literally the whole concept of pubs

if u guys could have famas do 60 damage a bullet pubstompers would eat it up bro

if u could have shotgun at 20 hp

of course too

pubs should adjust towards comp

like in every single game

valorant does its balancing based on pick rates in pro scene / ranked

it spills over in unrated and spike rush

and generally it spills over well

[hardy lodge]

we shouldnt have insane movement speeds either like every single game

[tired flume]

u're talking abt mechanics

im talking abt structure

all the class balancing updates recently have been for both pubs and comp

[hardy lodge]

shotgun alien blaster crossbow all that should be allowed too in ranked then

rpg

[tired flume]

shotgun is allowed i believe

[hardy lodge]

its not

[carmine plaza]

Valorant doesn’t remove spray patterns in unrated or deathmatch for the casual players to make the game easier either

[tired flume]

literally

[hardy lodge]

their casual playerbase doesnt play on chromebooks with 30fps either

so they can force skill onto their casual andys

krunker cannot

[tired flume]

i actually agree

[carmine plaza]

Seems like our casual playerbase did back in the games prime and they did just fine

[humble schooner]

So what's your end goal in all this, are you trying to like phase out pubstomping or

[tired flume]

but crossbow with 0 ads slow charge up speed

[tired flume]

there won't be phasing out pubstomping

i hope the players that are level 150+ can still stomp pubs

with these changes

i just think u got to always earn your fights

[olive grove]

They can very much lol

[hardy lodge]

pubs are alrdy getting almost zero focus entire focus is on ranked

[tired flume]

pubstomping itself is a stupid concept

rename pubstomping to smurfing

[humble schooner]

Im just trying to understand your vision of the future of this game

[tired flume]

because u are too scared of playing against players ur own level

[hardy lodge]

so people farming in pubs is bad but comp andys farming bots in ranked for 10k ss is not ?

[olive grove]

Alting...

[tired flume]

i want a game where changes can be adjacent with all communities, for example in comp we can use skins in krunker market and same speed values

[tired flume]

both are bad

[hardy lodge]

yea half of eu t1s alt in asia lobbies to farm 10ks 12ks

[tired flume]

"i like waffles, so u hate pancakes" ahh statement

[carmine plaza]

Where are u getting these metrics from

[olive grove]

Lol

[tired flume]

yes they for sure alt to farm asia lobbies

for sure

def not possible to do on main

[hardy lodge]

yea i never saw a thread ab fixing the matchmaking and making alting tagable in ranked

[tired flume]

because they get eventually match maked up

they can stomp for 3-4 games sure

then they get ranked up

and play plats

pubstompers tweak out when they cant find a full 8/8 guest lobby

[hardy lodge]

u gotta play alot of games once u get stuck into the matchmaking bs

[tired flume]

if they are truly a smurf

[haughty cobalt]

List atleast 10-15 accounts rn

[tired flume]

they end up in plat or diamond

[hardy lodge]

literally ud play 10 games and only win or lose due to having or not having unfair teams

[humble schooner]

So you think right now the communities are too different from each other or

[tired flume]

i dont think the communities are too different

i just think there is seperate versions of krunker

and i think the version of krunke that pubstompers play on

is very unhealthy towards krunker acquiring new users

overall just a very unhealthy and not a good look for the game

i wish pubs were skill based

[olive grove]

[tired flume]

and different levels get assigned to different lobbies

nuking and farming chromebook players is just genuinely weird

go play players ur own level

[hardy lodge]

weeti , flnguish ( psure ) , legacys , lase and many others

[tired flume]

there is not a single game where there is a portion of the community bragging abt stomping lower tier lobbies

not in fortnite, valorant (val actually bans to avoid), cs, etc

nukes come down to who finds the guest lobbies first

[carmine plaza]

Lase and legacys are Asia players…?

[tired flume]

not comes down to how great u are

[carmine plaza]

And legacys is someone’s main btw

Not an alt

[haughty cobalt]

how many of them are alts?

[carmine plaza]

Weeti is on his main

😭 😭

[hardy lodge]

alts are down in the lb but yea we can do that way ill give you a list of alts daily everytime i see em

[tired flume]

i might be very biased in this but i feel like this common sense, when i played pubs i had a 2.5 kdr and already felt guilty grinding pubs against chromebook players so i played comp

maybe it's just perspective

i saw pubs as a waiting lobby for nack/kpc queues

or a way to practice ur mechanics

not pop a energy drink and lobby hunt for nukes

[humble schooner]

I agree with that but at the same time pubstomping is a large part of the game even now, so do you wanna get rid of pubstomping as a whole?

[tired flume]

just think there is nothing wrong with 'stomping' pubs

but there needs to be some skill

[olive grove]

Nukes became a thing after introducing nuke tamer and these badges removing it will anger a large part of the pubstompers wouldn't it

[carmine plaza]

And you shouldn’t be stomping new players

That’s just unhealthy

[hardy lodge]

yea thats why they seperated guests from logged in players which made farming nukes alot harder

[carmine plaza]

They don’t need to be removed

[tired flume]

i dont think things like nukes should be removed

[hardy lodge]

[olive grove]

Oh yea

[tired flume]

should just make things more skilled

[olive grove]

I mean, nukes would become harder

Almost impossible *

[tired flume]

ultimately i believe all players should treat pubs as a way to train mechanics against players ur own level. if pubs can reach this, i think "pubstomping" is healthy

[carmine plaza]

The thing is the game needs new and more players rather than aiming to please the smaller current playerbase

[hardy lodge]

u alrdy cant farm nukes like u used to before when there were guests in lobby now anyone just instantly goes on shotgun or throwing knife and ruins the streak

[carmine plaza]

That doesn’t mean ruining the game for current players

But if skill based match making is what it takes for new players to hopefully stick around

Then it’s worth it

But I think we are getting off topic

[tired flume]

yeah

i think the mindset and philosophy is what u got to distinguish

[olive grove]

Hm

[tired flume]

players that want to keep things the same, even prefer old system of pubs have a different outlook than id say myself or ceaf

or anyone else taking that side

[hardy lodge]

yea coz theres nothing wrong in having 2 diff parts of the game catering towards their specific playerbases

[tired flume]

which is healthy

comp with matchmaking

or pubs with the goal intention of making new players not have a good time

[hardy lodge]

yea and pubs with removing all the spawn trapping and shit

and adding stuff to grind

trying to mix up these 2 will just make things worse

[carmine plaza]

people are still playing the same game if there is a minimum ads power haha

[hardy lodge]

and that should be lowered

to .3 or .5

in default settings

with a bunch of other things

which are currently a handicap

[carmine plaza]

u just wanna promote things that are ultimately unhealthy for the game

and no new players would even complain about a minimum ads power because they never knew it could be changed

just like in the prime of krunker

[hardy lodge]

unlimited walljumps too

so we all can fly like lazhern

lets chunk that in too

in the list

[carmine plaza]

Yea cause that’s what we are talking about adding…

[hardy lodge]

point is going full reverse leaving nothing behind

😃

[carmine plaza]

0.5 minimum is full reverse yea?

[hardy lodge]

no need of .5 1 will be good with no slidehop

slidehopping was a bug anyways

just patch it

[carmine plaza]

No chain of logic there

[hardy lodge]

" full reverse " i just said it

[carmine plaza]

Are you ragebaiting

[hardy lodge]

i dont rage bait

[olive grove]

[hardy lodge]

if everything needs to be skill then we gotta add a massive shotgun nerf too

too the list

and throwing knives ofc with inverse damage dropoff

and fixing every single map to remove all spawn traps

also fixing spawns

[carmine plaza]

u was thinking that everyone was gonna quit the game if they took locked unobs and gave them away

[hardy lodge]

also those fucking bunnies which lag everyone out

[carmine plaza]

when only u and 2 other people would quit cause ur vitual inv would lose value

i cant take what u say seriously

ur just trying to ragebait

[hardy lodge]

economics 101 giving people free money = rise in inflation

thats what kt did which is why we are here ( boosting all the rare shit - basically making peoples worthless trash worth millions )

[carmine plaza]

what i said was your words

[hardy lodge]

yea it does remove the whole aspect of investing in old skins and such

items being locked makes minimal difference coz they are locked bcoz people sold them
if they didnt sold them just quit as it is they would still be rotting in their dead accs hence them being locked or rot in deadaccs forever makes pretty much no difference

[humble schooner]

What about putting guests and new players under lvl 10 in separate lobbies and having some in game tutorials about mechanics like slidehopping

[hardy lodge]

10 people quitting - 10 items rotting on their accs forever ( maybe 1 returns and trades them gets smth else and again dips )
vs 10 people bming and quitting - 10 items getting locked and being gone forever

its basically the same

[humble schooner]

Game in its current state is not big enough for a ton of separation in pubs rn

[carmine plaza]

u can say whatever and explain it but im asking about if them releasing those unobs is going to make EVERYONE quit

cause that was what u was saying

[hardy lodge]

yea why would u grind for smth thats not worth investing in 💀

makes no sense

[carmine plaza]

i dont think ur reading what im saying

[carmine plaza]

i do believe there is a seperation

however tutorials would be good

im sure the devs would want something like that just maybe they dont have the time to implement it rn

[humble schooner]

Yes I think its with guests but what about expanding that to lvl 10 or lvl 5 or something

[hardy lodge]

yea it will make alot of people quit the game ( it will also make it easier for us to grow our invs by 10 folds but itll be pointless coz there wont be any investment value to it so best option is to quit )

[carmine plaza]

alot being the 3 ultra rich people

when they see that others have their special skins they cannot stand to play the game anymore

😔

[carmine plaza]

it is

[humble schooner]

Oh really?

Aight that's good

[carmine plaza]

i dont know the exacts but if def not only guests

[humble schooner]

Then just better in game tutorials maybe

[carmine plaza]

pretty sure the game has been growing since

and it makes sense

when new players arent getting stomped as soon as they click in the for the first time

no game should be like that

its why pubstomping culture and clan wars is such a bad thing

[humble schooner]

Yeah

[hardy lodge]

ohh so grinding the game is our fault

right

[humble schooner]

But its also a huge part of the game

I believe there was a suggestion about clan wars being separate lobbies, pancito made it p sure

[carmine plaza]

stomping noobs isnt healthy though

players can still "pubstomp" just within players near their skill

[hardy lodge]

also since u alrdy brought up trading in this
its the comp andys who break tos in 200 diff ways and keep finding new ways and get locked the most

[carmine plaza]

i dont see how thats relevant at all

LOL

[hardy lodge]

same reason why ando hated it

[hardy lodge]

well tanget for tanget

[carmine plaza]

what i said has some relevance

[humble schooner]

Thats kinda being addressed right now though by putting noobs in separate lobbies, you could do the same thing with clan wars

[carmine plaza]

being what u say is just ragebait so i cant take ur opinion seriously

[carmine plaza]

yea exaclty

we can have clan wars but it just needs to be reshaped

[hardy lodge]

i dont need to rage bait

[humble schooner]

Well in the current state of the game there's not much for pubstompers to do outside of stomp noobs in pubs, maybe instead of making a change like this to pubs clan wars could be brought back to take pubstompers out of normal pubs

[carmine plaza]

well the change we are talking about isnt to give people something to do

but

plenty of ideas have been given to the devs as in content for pubstompers

now its out of our control on whether they become a thing or not

[night flower]

Agree for comp(0.4-1) would me much nicer to start with, kinda disagree on pubs, let it be the way it is for that

[humble schooner]

Idk we kinda went off topic talking about the impact of this on pubs and then it spiralled out of control

[night flower]

Actually I feel like 0 ads should have never been in the game anyways

[carmine plaza]

The problem is this creates inconsistency

Imagine how a new player feels after grinding to lvl 10 on 0 ads

And then they queue ranked and realise they can’t use 0

[humble schooner]

There was a similar convo for this about hitboxes p sure

When they changed them for pubs back when ranked was first added

To keep it all consistent

[carmine plaza]

Honestly it should always be the same between both modes

Including ads power

[humble schooner]

I would say this is more of the controversy tbh

[carmine plaza]

Imagine if csgo had spray patterns in comp but no spray patterns in casual

Because they wanted to make the game easier for casual players

It doesn’t make sense

New players have to play pubs to be eligible for ranked

So pubs are basically preparing them for ranked

[hardy lodge]

Csgo's core playerbase doesn't play on 20 fps either if they did they would have to do the same thing

[carmine plaza]

So it should be the same game mechanically

[night flower]

I think new players are always mostly gonna get shit on either ways coz of how insane the movement mechanics of this game is(not complaining about movement btw love it)

[carmine plaza]

Krunkers core playerbase did back in 2020 1ads and they seemed to do fine

Considering it was the prime of krunker

And I’m not even talking about using 1ads

0.5 could be a good place to start

[hardy lodge]

Yea and everyone didn't used to zoom around the map either and when I said that u showed me another one off example

[hardy lodge]

And 130-150 capped speed with it

[carmine plaza]

They did lol

He’s not a one off

Mr_rodd was a borderline casual doing that shit back then

[hardy lodge]

Another one of these specific examples

[carmine plaza]

Lmg trolling was a trend

And these guys didn’t have some god given talent

They just played the game and got better

[flat thistle]

this is still going

get a j**

[carmine plaza]

I’ve had one for longer than u

[flat thistle]

get a j**

[carmine plaza]

Buzzalright

[hardy lodge]

I used to nolife the game back then rarely saw it happen

[flat thistle]

buzzz alrighttt

[hardy lodge]

[humble schooner]

yea I dont think was as common as you're saying it was

[hardy lodge]

It was always people walking like NPCs or doing half assed bhop and sometimes the red tag Andy's zooming around the map killing everyone

[flat thistle]

can someone summmarize the current argument i don’t wanna scroll up

[carmine plaza]

Basically

The same points being made like 50 times

[flat thistle]

..

i mean u both have opinions that are fixed and won’t be changed

like yall are solid on ur opinions

no point to argue

[hardy lodge]

Yea bcoz that's how polar opposite comp and pubs is

And there's nothing wrong in that

[flat thistle]

not really i have many different opinions then ceaf too

but i agree with this take

it’s just everyone’s perspective

and it’s fine

[hardy lodge]

This thread should have 2 versions

Comp + pubs and comp only

To see which is more favoured

[humble schooner]

Or just make some thread saying "Comp changes should also be applied to Pubs"

Something like that

And see the discussion/reactions

[hardy lodge]

Yea there's nothing mentioned in the thread

That this shit will be applied to pubs

Which is misleading

@tired flume can u edit it and add that THIS INCLUDES PUBS

[carmine plaza]

That shouldn’t even be needed to mention…

What is this game vro

[hardy lodge]

Nothing wrong with it being mentioned

It's just extra information

[carmine plaza]

In any other game they would never need to mention something like that

[humble schooner]

This is Krunker though not any other game 😭

[carmine plaza]

@flat thistle Check dms lmfao

[hardy lodge]

Other games don't have people playing on pentium CPUs and 5090s either

[carmine plaza]

Holy fuck bro

The same point for the 10th time

[hardy lodge]

It's just the truth

[carmine plaza]

And I give the same valid response

And u ignore it

[hardy lodge]

U keep comparing it to other games when it's nothing like other games

💀

[flat thistle]

of course every game is unique

but there’s many similarities

[carmine plaza]

No game is identical but they follow the same principles

Because it’s common sense

Eg

[hardy lodge]

Yea but krunker is extremely far from all of those things combined

[carmine plaza]

Have the same mechanics in casual and comp

[humble schooner]

You can just make this a suggestion and see what ppl think

[flat thistle]

yea but ideas are all taken from other games into its own unique one

i know this game is very unique

but it’s still got many similarities

[humble schooner]

Maybe not mechanics but changes in general

[hardy lodge]

Yea but this one isn't being taken in a unique way it's just being copy pasted into krunker like how it is in other games which doesn't fit in the game

That is the issue

[flat thistle]

no this idea being made isn’t new, this is something that was already implemented and made the game healthy which you don’t understand or want to try to understand

i get it if this wasn’t a thing before

but we already know what it was like before and it was healthy

[hardy lodge]

Bcoz it focuses on one thing not multiple diff things being done together to overall create a healthy experience

Increase ads a bit and cap the speed even more why just " balance " one thing

[carmine plaza]

We not saying do this and then never touch the game again

[hardy lodge]

Yea but both can be done at the same time 💀

And the tweak accordingly

Then*

[flat thistle]

i think cause doing to much at once will make people go crazy, u gotta do small steps at a time

[hardy lodge]

Can be done by setting ads to .1 and putting speed cap to 190 in pubs and 180 in ranked

Both at once

And if this cannot be done then first do the movement nerf again

Tweak the existing things first according to current meta and if even that doesn't work then try new things like ads and shit

[flat thistle]

personally i just wanted to have movement nerfed first

and see what happens

[hardy lodge]

Yea that's how it should be

[carmine plaza]

That’s how it’s been done

Why do u think comp speed is 0.96

[flat thistle]

i do still think ads should be capped at a higher ads then lower

[flat thistle]

true true

[hardy lodge]

That was long ago can tweak it again a bit and see if it makes things better or not

And if not THEN experiment with new shit

[flat thistle]

i was expecting ur emote to appear just now

[hardy lodge]

[flat thistle]

buzzzz alright

[carmine plaza]

Lowering the speed more is just creating a different game to pubs

[hardy lodge]

No do it to pubs too

[flat thistle]

facts

[carmine plaza]

Probably wil have to ask the movement people if they care about that

We will have a thread about lowering movement speed soon btw

I have it written up

[humble schooner]

It should get nerfed 🤷‍♂️

[hardy lodge]

So if they don't want it then it won't happen

But if pubstompers don't want 0 ads to go away regardless of their opinions it will happen

?

[carmine plaza]

Ur not killing pub players by adding 1ads u clown 😭

But some jumps become impossible on lower speed

[hardy lodge]

Hosting custom takes few seconds

[flat thistle]

LMFAOOO

[carmine plaza]

I’m pretty sure they have voiced their issues with lowering speed

I don’t remember their points though

[hardy lodge]

Well capping speed won't kill Parkour Andy's anyways as they will still have a option to host a custom game and do it

[flat thistle]

ok devil can we agree that u think the game is a little to fast and easy rn

[hardy lodge]

Yea but that's how it needs to be in pubs for the sake of chromebook Andy's and also like they seperated guests they need to add people upto lvl 10 atleast to that group

[humble schooner]

Agreed but ceaf said its more then just guests that are separate so I guess its already being done

Or been done

[hardy lodge]

It's only guests

[humble schooner]

Well

[carmine plaza]

Buh

[hardy lodge]

I tried guesting even got rate limited

It's literally only guests

Nobody else

[humble schooner]

Have you tried making an alt

[flat thistle]

rightttt

[humble schooner]

And playing on it

[flat thistle]

get it??

buh rightttt??

[carmine plaza]

I get it bro

[flat thistle]

yessss

[hardy lodge]

If you open client while being logged in ur thrown into normal game

I see alot of the day 1 prem andys in pubs

[humble schooner]

mmm

[hardy lodge]

Even as a guest it sometimes puts you in normal lobbies

[hardy lodge]

Also will make pubs even harder when all the default settings people will be on .3-.5 ads

[flat thistle]

wdym even harder, they aren’t hard rn?

[hardy lodge]

The nuke farming aspect is alrdy been killed except like fra and maybe brazil

[tired flume]

a new player is going to scope in with sniper on 0.3 ads

and be like "what the fuck"

then leave

[flat thistle]

LOL yea….

[tired flume]

i would've ran as far as i could from krunker if it had forced ads when i first started

[hardy lodge]

Atleast they will be able to track a fast moving player easily

[tired flume]

even when i was 14 i realized how bs and gimmicky it was

im not tryna play kovaks in a fps game

[flat thistle]

uh

asokra what

[tired flume]

like

forced 0.2 ads

what i meant

id be confused why my ak isnt zooming in

[flat thistle]

oh yea

[hardy lodge]

Farming part is gone since they seperated guests

[flat thistle]

i agree

[flat thistle]

i think it’s fine tho u can still farm new accounts

imagine if it was forced 0 ads and i zoom my sniper and it don’t zoom

like buzzz alright

as a new player u just would quit

[alpine flax]

I have been vouching for this for a while, im glad its finally being taken somewhat seriously

[flat thistle]

that’s why it needs some zoom like 0.5-0.7 , u don’t even need the full 1 ads but 1 ads is still good

[hardy lodge]

Also can you add the pubs part in the mssg

[hardy lodge]

Default should be .5 and then people can choose if they wanna go down to zero or upto 1

[flat thistle]

u should not have the option to have no zoom

it’s literally no skill and makes it so easy

theres already no recoil

no zoom just makes the game so easy

[hardy lodge]

it's fine

All this special things make kruster fun

@tired flume the edit

[tired flume]

it says "Force All Players"

[hardy lodge]

Doesn't say where tho

can just mention that it'll be implemented in pubs too

Rn it's MISLEADING...

[carmine plaza]

Spawn delay is always an option and easier to implement for those things

[hardy lodge]

STILL THE TITLE IS MISLEADING.....

[carmine plaza]

Think it should be slowly incremented

So the minimum goes up by 0.1 every 2 weeks or a month or something

[hardy lodge]

And the speed cap goo

Too

Goes lower and lower

But the title is still misleading...

Can we fix that

[carmine plaza]

Not sure if 0.4 is high enough

Like I’ve been thinking and there might also need to be lower limit on what fov u can use, maybe to like 105

I’m curious to know what opinions in that will be

[hardy lodge]

Can u make another thread

To add all the weapons and throwing knives to ranked too and comp preset

So it's not 2 diff games

[carmine plaza]

Devil please go do something else

[hardy lodge]

Now I agree with you on making the game same everywhere and u don't even like that

💀

Why racism in comp to not have shotgun and stuff

[carmine plaza]

Ye let’s add golden gun in val to competitive

😂

Use ur brain

[hardy lodge]

I highly doubt u get diff guns in val death match and val comp

Or if some are banned

If we want comp and pubs to be same then everything should be same

[carmine plaza]

Problem is when you use a higher ads then if u just up ur fov it kind of counter acts it

[hardy lodge]

Imagine some bow main queuing ranked and not being able to play his main class he would instantly quit

[carmine plaza]

I don’t see a reason why someone would use like

Above 110 fov

But that’s another topic for later

Depending on how this is received

[hardy lodge]

False feedback as title is misinformation

[lusty marten]

i think some people may play on high fov because they havent figured out that they can change it

the same way weeti plays on mouse accel

[carmine plaza]

Ah hell nah

Dudes on the araf method

[carmine plaza]

Don’t think they will be hurt too hard if their fov is dropping by like 10

At that high of a fov I don’t think it makes a big difference

[hardy lodge]

Same for speed

.86 speed instead

[carmine plaza]

Bro devil

[hardy lodge]

U can't be mad after me agreeing to your logic

💀

[carmine plaza]

U need to find something else to do

[hardy lodge]

I'm waiting for title to be changed

Asokra is offline

[carmine plaza]

It can’t be that important to you

[hardy lodge]

But while waiting I realised bow mains are being cockblocked in comp

Let em free same for all other weapons

[hardy lodge]

Like this is bad

[humble schooner]

😭

[carmine plaza]

Make a ticket

Not ticket

A thread

[hardy lodge]

Also it'll streamline the experience and cause less confusing to why some classes are allowed and some not

[carmine plaza]

Ye make a ticket

Fuck

Make a thread

[hardy lodge]

You do it that's not my logic I'm just agreeing to yours

Or we should wait for asokra to come back

To change title and also do that

😃

[tired flume]

Force all players (across all modes) on 0.5-1ads (Discussed with Glen & Comp Admins)

[tired flume]

honestly i agree with u

[hardy lodge]

Omg

[tired flume]

the reason why is simply because those guns are too over tuned

we'd have to change them fully

[hardy lodge]

Yes

[tired flume]

inflitrator is one that is too weak

while crossbow is too strong

the projectile element of crossbow doesnt exist

dude if i ran this game from 2019 forward

[hardy lodge]

Balance the shit out of shotgun bow throwing knives and stuff and add em all in comp

[tired flume]

i would have all guns allowed

[hardy lodge]

💪

[tired flume]

the old comp guys didnt want it

and didnt want to find solutions

so they banned

[lusty marten]

throwing knives in comp

[tired flume]

i think throwing knives shouldnt exist tho

eh it's a weird gray area

[hardy lodge]

Yea well they can fuck off if everything should be same then literally everything should be same

[tired flume]

i think it shouldnt do full 100 damage

i think that's insane

[hardy lodge]

Inverse damage drop off so it's actually skill

[tired flume]

i genuinely dont mind an adjusted throwing knife where u can projectile throw it for 50 damage

[hardy lodge]

The further u are the more damage it does

[tired flume]

it wouldnt' be useful ever really

maybe it could be a pseudo sniper counter

[lusty marten]

i dont have a problem with things like thrown knives xbows and rpgs in pubs

pubs are meant to be fun

[tired flume]

throwing knives would have to be reworked

same with classes like rpgs

[hardy lodge]

@tired flume this would instantly balance it close range they would do 10 damage and in long range 200

[tired flume]

oh yeah

i dont know how easily that can get implemented tho

people would learn lineups

which could be cool

[hardy lodge]

Yes

[tired flume]

honestly tho i prefer throwing knives just to do 50 damage from a charge up

i dont see a world where long range even gets used

it's like a once in a billion moment

[hardy lodge]

A void coming in flying into a site killing someone in tourney live would go hard

[lusty marten]

@tired flume imagine a tournament round starts, both teams throw up knives towards the other teams spawn area

[tired flume]

yeah

would be insane

i wouldnt want a throwing knife to kill

that's just too much

should just do same damage as regular knife but u can just throw it once

[hardy lodge]

Yea but people would still complain inverse damage drop off gives them zero chance to complain about

[tired flume]

i guess

[hardy lodge]

It'll be like do it once and forget about it's existence forever

Even fucking rpg 2 shots ak

[smoky veldt]

@next ridge hey

[hardy lodge]

That thing need to be toned down and added to rank

And comp preset

[lusty marten]

no it doesnt

[hardy lodge]

Yes

Krunker " needs to be same in both pubs and comp " so to make it same everything needs to be in ranked

[lusty marten]

i know they say that but its not true

movement speed is different

some guns arent available

its not the same game

[hardy lodge]

Yea but they flamed me for saying pubs and comp are 2 diff things and forever should stay as 2 diff things

[lusty marten]

i see what ur doing

[hardy lodge]

So if it needs to be same then it has to be same in every single aspect

[hardy lodge]

Giving up and embracing their logic

💪

Unless everyone decides that it's better for those 2 things to stay different

Then I'll switch sides

[lusty marten]

@tired flume if you want to rework things like shotgun xbow rpg to be comp viable, then pub players will complain

i dont think its worth trying

[hardy lodge]

No we won't

They are broken

And needs balancing

[lusty marten]

for you they are broken but for some people they are the only way to kill better players

[hardy lodge]

Also would increase the skills required to play those classes

As that's what everyone wants apparently

[lusty marten]

i want skill in comp

pubs can stay fun

[hardy lodge]

So do I

But they want comp and pubs to be the SAME

So then have to be literally same

[lucid jolt]

ok now lets allow explosives in ranked too

[hardy lodge]

There can't be any exceptions

[hardy lodge]

Yes we can use your special delivery then

[carmine plaza]

Devil I said we want the mechanics to be the same

[lucid jolt]

you can make noob tube lineups to splash site and stop regen

from your spawn

thoughts?

[carmine plaza]

Also devil

What time is it for you

[hardy lodge]

Yea throwing knife mechanic
Projectile weapons

Also alien blaster didnt do nothing wrong 😭 why is that banned

[lusty marten]

too op

[neon lance]

alien blaster is way to op

basically mini semi

[hardy lodge]

Yea but same = same
Same with exceptions cant be same

[carmine plaza]

Have you been here perma ragebaiting since 2am your time?

[tired flume]

🛏️

[hardy lodge]

All these weapons should be balanced and all and then add em

[carmine plaza]

And now it’s 6am

?

[lusty marten]

bro we got your point, you can stop now

[hardy lodge]

Im tired of telling that I don't rage bait 😭

[tired flume]

ima be honest bro

it's time to go to bed

[carmine plaza]

4 hours of ragebait…

In the desd of night

My fucking god

[hardy lodge]

Especially not that this low scale if I ever did rage bait it would be fucking grand

[tired flume]

I've noticed you are in every single discussion in this thread, I don't like telling people not to engage but it's good to allow new discussions and new topics

[carmine plaza]

I can imagine

U seemed skilled at this

Like seeizing level of skill

[tired flume]

Every single time the convos have been centered around your topics

[tired flume]

(within this discussion)

I'd like to hear some movement players talk about their angle

things like that

:)

[hardy lodge]

Well first I don't agree it gets called as rage bait then I finally agree to smth and even that gets called rage bait

Tf am I supposed to do

[carmine plaza]

Go to sleep bro

That’s what

[hardy lodge]

Later will go to gym first

[lusty marten]

@hardy lodge you are not contributing to the topic

[hardy lodge]

I did

I kept taking a stand for the fellow chromebook Andy's

[lusty marten]

currently you are ridiculing the "pubs and comp are the same" thing

we know they arent, move on

[hardy lodge]

Coz for last 4 hrs if not more everyone kept telling me that they want it that way

😭

It's their words not mine

[lusty marten]

maybe they do

but that will require a lot of reworking and balancing

[hardy lodge]

But leaving things half assed would just make people more mad

[carmine plaza]

The comparison that was made was that we wouldn’t want spray patterns in csgo to not be in casual modes but be in comp

Idk how u have taken it completely 180

[humble schooner]

Has this really been going for 4 hours

Time lowkey flew icl

[lusty marten]

i honestly cant see how you can make pubs and comp look the same without making some group of players angry

[carmine plaza]

Could be time to sleep soon

[hardy lodge]

I was saying they shouldn't be made the same coz they both are 2 diff things but IF by chance they are made same then they should be fully same without any exceptions

[humble schooner]

Only 8:30 pm for me

For devil this is probably lasted like

All night

[lusty marten]

i dont think having different gamemodes where the game runs differently is a bad thing

[hardy lodge]

exactly and it makes even more sense if the difference in between was competitive and non competitive

That's not confusing at lal

All

[carmine plaza]

lol

[lusty marten]

they could actually add a mode with different gravity and speed

that would be about movement control

[hardy lodge]

Chaos snipers is fun asf

[hardy lodge]

Yes but they don't have some guns in casual and some in comp either so that should be copied here too

[carmine plaza]

Well like

Cs has golden gun too no?

[hardy lodge]

Tf is that

Only thing ik ab val is anime version of cs with ability spam

[carmine plaza]

Yea golden gun is like something u get from one of the casual modes

It just 1 taps and regains its bullet everytime u kill someone

[hardy lodge]

Nope

[carmine plaza]

Could just be a val thing

[hardy lodge]

One in the chamber ?

We have that in kruster

[carmine plaza]

I mean u can’t compare games right

[flat thistle]

bro

i come back

AND URE STILL UP DEVIL

go do something

please

please anything

[carmine plaza]

Me and YOU pvlse need j*bs

[flat thistle]

😭😭😭

bro i swear

[hardy lodge]

U started it not me

[flat thistle]

these people r not real ceaf i cant

[carmine plaza]

WE need a job

[flat thistle]

like being in a kb chat from midnight to 6am

is criminal

[carmine plaza]

[flat thistle]

LMFAO

[hardy lodge]

[flat thistle]

ye ur done

[carmine plaza]

Wait why do I have nitro

[flat thistle]

get out

[carmine plaza]

WTFFF

[hardy lodge]

-2$

[flat thistle]

yea we do

devils job is to disagree and ragebait every kb thread tho

[tired flume]

I applaud you bro @hardy lodge

keeping kb alive

[hardy lodge]

No u gotta pick a side

[carmine plaza]

Let’s goo

[hardy lodge]

Me agreeing to yalls logic is ragebait or me not agreeing to yalls logic is ragebait

[flat thistle]

no yk what ure doing

[hardy lodge]

Coz I'm fucking confused

[flat thistle]

and it’s good

[carmine plaza]

Give him kb mod

[flat thistle]

this is like top tier ragebajt

like i haven’t seen it this good from anyone

[carmine plaza]

Pvlse ur so cute

[humble schooner]

Can we censor this thanks

[flat thistle]

awww

ur so cute to ceaf

[hardy lodge]

😭 I literally don't do rage baits

[flat thistle]

whatever u say man

like u win bro

[hardy lodge]

Still confused

[left belfry]

[dire stratus]

I wholeheartedly agree with this. This change will also make sniper and semi unwieldy at close range like they're supposed to be.

[austere patio]

This updated is needed , not only because it makes the gameplay better but also , Make the classes like Sniper which requires ADS actually feel like sniper and also make the class less broken (for the players who really blame sniper to be so broken and cannot be nerfed , well here it can be nerfed)

Not exactly nerfing the class but the player need to precisely match their movement while tracking

[digital rain]

This is another thing but it’s also so boring watching clips on low ads

There should just not be a setting that changes your ads fov. Everyone should be playing on the same weapon zoom ☝️

[austere patio]

Also for the movement players , Keep Weapon ADS and Knife ADS (could be adjustable as it brings no big change apparently) separately , to be honest i was a movement player but i really did feel i was super used to a fixed knife ads while gaining speed for the same though i wanna hear what the current active movement players wanna say about this though

@oak dirge yo

what do u say abt this

[digital rain]

@heady falcon we need an expert opinion

[heady falcon]

look at you following the game

i dont think its terrible but wouldnt solve the core issue asokra seems to want to target. as a sniper player most of the aiming is done before ads-ing anyway in a fast paced game like this so that doesnt sound like a huge adjustment. i already play the same sens for scope in and out so 0.5-1 is a moot point.

i agree higher consistency between settings for players would be good, but based on the complaint the real issue seems to be the uncapped movement speed players can achieve, the peekers advantage won’t go away.

tl;dr: wouldn’t hurt to try but i dont think it would change much

[digital rain]

True, and also players won’t be moving as fast when they can’t aim at the same time either

[oak dirge]

What's this for