weapon nerfs and buffs (updated)

[indigo field]

here we go

[hexed apex]

NO

[indigo field]

pistol - balanced, actually, one of the most balanced guns in the game

akimbo pistols - they are supposed to be weird, so give them a 20 round mag and make them fire in 2 round bursts

boulder - make it so this thing has a melee attack, bc it would be funny to smash peoples heads with a boulder

sawed off - either make it deal more damage or give it a second shot

compressor - make it so if you run into a player it deals damage and throws them, and then they take damage if they hit a wall
also, make it so if you hit a wall while using it, you take damage based on how fast you were going

noob tube - increase blast damage, but other than that, fun as is

auto pistol - increase headshot damage to 1.2, but nerf base damage by 1 or 2 points (which doesnt seem like much, but it will make a difference trust)

zapper - make it so it doesnt lose its charge when fired unless you fired its last shot

techy-9 - reduce the recoil

alien blaster - balanced-ish

assault rifle - balanced.

sniper rifle - maybe make it have more damage drop.

SMG - maybe nerf the firerate a little

LMG - not really balanced, but not unbalanced either

shotgun - dont change its range, increase its damage drop, and make it so it can get longshots if you kill someone who is on the outer edge of its exsisting range

revolver - not balanced, but idk what to change to fix that

semi-auto - actually the most balanced weapon in the game imo

rocket launcher - increase the blast damage

akimbo uzis - reduce the agent back down to 100 HP. make it so the uzis cant shoot thru walls

runner - make it so the runner does 75 damage with the knife and 50 damage with fists, OR make him move and attack faster

crossbow - make it reload slower and/or give the bowman 90 HP

famas - increase the delay between bursts (i was not impressed with your "nerf" where you removed 6 shots from the mag)

blaster - kinda overpowered if you know how to use it, only if you know how to use it tho

charge - its not balanced, but i cant think of any good changes

why no techy recoil reduction @knotty sleet ?

[knotty sleet]

Techy is already the best secondary in the game

And reducing the recoil is stupid, when it's already easy to control it

[sturdy thistle]

behind ab, compressor, and boulder, anyways

[knotty sleet]

I guess

[sturdy thistle]

Yeah, sorry to say, but if you can't control tehchy recoil, then you need more practice

[indigo field]

i think it would be funny to turn yourself into a weapon with the compressor, which is why i suggested that change to it

[sturdy thistle]

If anything, make it higher because of that god-tier alpha volley

Compressor, boulder, and AB are overpowered as fuck, please don't buff them

[indigo field]

AB is alien blaster?

[sturdy thistle]

yes

[indigo field]

ok just making sure i was reading that right

[sturdy thistle]

Even though it only kills one person per mag usually, it does so faster than most primaries

A pocket semi

I'd consider rev balanced now that smg is 100 hp again

[indigo field]

wow lol

[sturdy thistle]

just wanna say that despite any misgivings I have about this suggestion, it's WAY better than the last one

[knotty sleet]

☑️

[raven garnet]

I think it should be like a heavy throwing knife, but only does 80 damage. So you can chuck it at people's heads but it doesn't one-tap anyone, and is heavy, similar to the noob tube rocket where it curves quicker than other rockets. This would give it unique physics and work as a secondary, rather than how the throwing knife is some people's go-to, as its a pretty easy one tap weapon.

[indigo field]

not throw it

just hit people with it

give it like, 125 damage and a long ass cooldown

[raven garnet]

Compressor isn't meant to be a damaging secondary, its solely for movement and trickshotting

[raven garnet]

I like the idea of throwing it better

[raven garnet]

already pretty OP as a secondary, its just a one-shot rocket launcher with janky physics

[raven garnet]

already a pretty good secondary, doesn't need a buff

[raven garnet]

I could definitely see this working since range and HP are pretty much the only downsides to sniper, as it one shots all but the Spray n Pray

[raven garnet]

I think rev is relatively balanced, most classes require 2 shots to kill, while the stronger classes only require one shot. Its like a pocket sniper without the damage decrease, so the main downside is it requires good aim to use

[raven garnet]

rocket launcher can kill most classes in two shots, thats where the secondary comes in for those it can't

also very movement based class to make up for its slowness, thats where rocket jumping also comes in

[raven garnet]

should be nerfed differently, just not sure how

[indigo field]

i didnt mean increase it by much, just by like, 5-12 points

[raven garnet]

Damage is based on the weapon, so everything would have to revolve around the movement itself

or HP obv

[raven garnet]

Thats quite a lot, and damage for explosions is also based on how close of a hit it is

[raven garnet]

I think giving 90 HP and making shooting faster would be a good balance

makes it one-tap for Revolver while giving it a smaller buff

considering its already pretty hard to use, especially with longer range

[raven garnet]

its basically just AK with some delay between shots, like a cross between the crossbow and AK

[raven garnet]

Charge Rifle just sucks tbh

I don't think it needs any changes, its literally just a one-tap sniper you have to charge, which gives recoil and makes it harder to aim

[indigo field]

can i DM you rq

[raven garnet]

for what

[indigo field]

knowledge about the charge

[raven garnet]

what "knowledge" is there to have

what was the point in deleting that

[indigo field]

cause reasons

[raven garnet]

also thats probably intentional

[indigo field]

ik

the charge has perfect noscope accuracy on its killbeam

there, undeleted

[sturdy thistle]

It's great against LMG, SMG, and uzi

[cedar cypress]

Which would only help if you’re hugging the enemy because anything further your crosshair will be looking at the sky if you’re aiming downwards

Which then at that point, what’s the point not Adsing

[green mason]

didnt read the suggestions yet, but why make a new thread? You have both your own, and asokra's forum to discuss weapon nerfs and buffs.

A forum for every kb member's suggestions on weapon buffs and nerfs is unnecessary,

[sturdy thistle]

I don't think you understand. Perfect accuracy while hipfiring means that you can noscope at long range and still hit

[cedar cypress]

I still don’t get how this is so special though

[sturdy thistle]

Why are you keeping that secret, you literally learned it from me and I have that as my game end message for all to see

[cedar cypress]

Also I’m pretty sure most people know that

[sturdy thistle]

100 points minimum per kill because of the noscope bonus. You can die more and still win through sheer SPK

kinda like runner, except more viable

[green mason]

why not talk about like its actual benefit

which is not having to wait the scope time, spk should be irrelevant

[cedar cypress]

Pans deleted message

[sturdy thistle]

Same argument can be made for prescoping on sniper

[cedar cypress]

Just buff rev and call it a day

[green mason]

what?

[sturdy thistle]

If you start quickscoping 100 ms before peeking

I mean, I don't see how ADS time plays a large role anyways, since sniper scope time is only a tenth of a second

[cedar cypress]

Prefiring with charge rifle also allows you to still not shoot around the corner blindly

You can still stop the firing before it shoots if you notice nobody is there

Unlike sniper, you’d waste a shot and possibly just die due to it. Nobody prefires with sniper

[green mason]

alright, but my point still stands. Sniper requires the ads, inf doesn't. In a pinch where you're not ads, you see where I'm going

As for ADS time not playing a large role, yea given how fast it is it's a small adjustment but significant when comparing to rev. Remember that ads time essentially plays as a the "ttk" measure for most games (yes I know this is not exact but you get the idea)

[sturdy thistle]

Okay yeah if we're doing rev vs. charge, ADS time does make sense. I thought it was for sniper specifically and hence my confusion.

Although in the case of rev, I've found that I instinctively start ADSing before a peek for that reason and thereby nullify it

[green mason]

(whoops)

[sturdy thistle]

oh
Back to confusion then

time to do some rereading

[prime pasture]

we starting good

[prime pasture]

never mind.
2 burst is a good idea but just make them more reliable instead of adding more ammo
boulder- already op, don't make it better.
sawed- could do more damage sure but people use it for the impulse. make the impulse the same as compressor's, as sawed off is a lot less relevant since the addition of compressor.

[prime pasture]

compressor is already broken. let's not do that
noob tube - not necessary
ap - not nessecarily needed but sure ig
zapper - just repurpose the whole weapon damage over time isn't made for a fast paced game like this

[prime pasture]

t9 - lol no play it better
ab - yep
ak - lowkey slightly too strong imo but the community outrage isn't worth it, keep it as is. it's strong but not absolutely insane levels of strong.
sniper - meh it's fine as is on that aspect.

[prime pasture]

smg - not nessecary. a slight nerf I wouldn't be against but it's kinda okay atm.
lmg - less hp (170, 160 if we reduce sniper hs mlt), more movement accel. especially since boulder is in the game.
sg - we don't need another shotgun nerf it's already weak enough

[prime pasture]

rev - just slight reload nerf ig? idk tbh its kinda ok
semi - i guess. it's really fun to play as of now and is strong without being too strong
rocket - fix the high speed damage bug first then just add a 4th rocket probably. or make it so self-damage doesn't reset the cooldown to healing. i'm no rpg main but it's what i'd do
uzi - it should have 100 hp but a buff to the guns themselves. 110 hp + its movement is absolutely busted while the actual weapon lacks juice
runner - don't balance runner. its purpose is to be bad and a meme class

[prime pasture]

bow - 90 hp would be coherent without impacting its gameplay. it's a strong weapon that can one tap so it makes sense to have this, maybe accompany it with some slight buff idk. a slower reload would be aids to play though.
famas - yeah i agree with this. that mag nerf was a joke lol
blaster - saying ak is balanced but blaster op is actually wild (ak has 2x the ammo, more dps in a lot of situations, much better at long range, similar reload speed (and slower than famas, smg, semi..), and ak has a secondary. blaster has walljumps and consistent 35 dmg but that gets eclipsed by ak's strong points). it's op in nobody's hands as if someone's great with blaster they'll be greater with ak/smg in most situations.
charge - increase hp to 110 or so

[rocky harness]

shotgun and longshots 💀 probs the dumbest shit ive heard in 2025

[fossil marten]

Ahahah I laugh so much thx @indigo field

[heavy wyvern]

nerd talk insane got mfs typin paragraphs on why shi needa be changed 😂 yall goofy af

[raven garnet]

Suggestions are better if they are debated and specific

Plus balancing is a major issue with krunker

[cedar cypress]

If you guys are gonna bring 0 value to these suggestions it would be appreciated if you guys don’t comment on them

[rocky harness]

There was no value in it to begin with 💀

Atleast the shotgun part