random-chat

[cunning jungle]

he got slammed

[quick surge]

youve got to be playing with bots or something

aint no way 900 blunders queen

stupid ass

[cunning jungle]

[quick surge]

no thats like

so stupid

[cunning jungle]

still losing position after i take back with rook

[quick surge]

i hate your opponent

[cunning jungle]

i do the trades

[quick surge]

BRAVOdaREALONE deserves to be put in purgatory

[cunning jungle]

real

my position was way better compared to them

and free queen

[quick surge]

your literal existence is way better compared to them

your opponent should stop playing chess

i aint even joking

[cunning jungle]

inzane

[lunar prism]

PLEASE HELP ME I GOT SCAMMED FOR 5K PLEASEE DEVS MODS ANYONE

HE SAID HE WOULD SEND 5K

[teal oyster]

looks like you didnt lose much inv anyways

[lunar prism]

SO? 5K IS 5K AND I USED THAT

[teal oyster]

it's 5k relax

[lunar prism]

I CANT RELAX WITH THE DAMN THOUGHT IN MY BRAIN THAT SOMEONE SCAMMED ME

AFTER I GOT IGHBALLED FOR FUKING LUCKY CAT

[lunar prism]

pleaseeee warn him, he traded off my items his name is spy_techno

[teal oyster]

what's wrong about that

[lunar prism]

i lost 3k in a trade

now got scammed for 5k

please warn him tho

[teal oyster]

can't

kpd is for cheaters

[lunar prism]

can u inform the devs?

highnoon?

[teal oyster]

it's 5k

[lunar prism]

i cant not do anything about it

im not just gonna let him scam me

[teal oyster]

send an email if you care that much

[lunar prism]

how do i?

[teal oyster]

..

pins in general i think

@white compass

[lunar prism]

well ill make a video

ive got 1p5k subs

gonna bust his ass

[teal oyster]

when did this happen?

skin off their account

[lunar prism]

like 10 mins ago

oh

skin

like 5

[teal oyster]

?

I was saying skin off their account

its off

[lunar prism]

yeah

he probably

traded it off to his main

[white compass]

it was my main

[lunar prism]

thinking it would change anything

[white compass]

xd

[teal oyster]

??

[lunar prism]

then what did u do?

how did u get it off?

[white compass]

nothing

[lunar prism]

how did u get it off tho?

[white compass]

get what off

?

[lunar prism]

my shoes

that u scammed

[white compass]

on my acc

[lunar prism]

dont act clueless i have all the evidence

[lunar prism]

theyre not

u traded them somewhere

[white compass]

what

[white compass]

on my alt?

[lunar prism]

exactly

alr ima give u 1 last chance to gimme my shit

or ima dedicate my next 2 days

on banning u

choose wisely

my yt is dakthekidd if u dont believe i have 1p5k subs

[teal oyster]

could you give your side or smth

it's 5k bruh

[lunar prism]

hes poor

[teal oyster]

petty asf to scam 5k

[lunar prism]

he had like 3k

[whole oxide]

This is quite disappointing to read

[white compass]

Well i did it cuz like i didnt want to grind for santa again so like i uh

ya

[lunar prism]

well give it back

[teal oyster]

so you just admit to it??

[lunar prism]

even if he didnt

[white compass]

Ya? im not gonan lie

[lunar prism]

i have all the proof

[teal oyster]

could u just not

it's annoying

[white compass]

first time mb

[lunar prism]

well anyhow

[teal oyster]

shouldnt matter

[lunar prism]

ima get the trade lobby to report u

since ive got premium

[white compass]

No.

[teal oyster]

just give it back so I dont have to go through the report process please

[lunar prism]

they be meat riders

[white compass]

fine

[white compass]

go to dms

[lunar prism]

uve blocked me

[white compass]

i unbloked u

[teal oyster]

solved?

[lunar prism]

nope

hes fuking around

he tryna say that hes sending the req

[teal oyster]

first off

this is hilarious

[teal oyster]

second idk

[lunar prism]

i bought it cuz i seen him in kmt

active

i didnt think he was a no life

[teal oyster]

he doesnt even have a rank bruh

[lunar prism]

he is very active in kmt

[teal oyster]

well your first mistake was trusting kmt

but anyways

just send them a trade I guess

if they can;t

[lunar prism]

he doesnt even have the item he traded it to his alt

[teal oyster]

request it from his alt then

[lunar prism]

idk it

he says hes gonna do it now

[teal oyster]

guess

[lunar prism]

oh lol

yop

can u check his alts kr

[teal oyster]

ok

[teal oyster]

18

nvm they used up 10

they have 8

can you just send them the trade dak

[lunar prism]

everything is solved

all good

i got my shoes back

[white compass]

@teal oyster No need 🙏😭

SORRY WONT HAPPEN AGAIN

[teal oyster]

that took way longer than it should've but cool

[white compass]

I troll a bit ehheeh

[teal oyster]

mhm

[white compass]

[lunar prism]

yes lol

[white compass]

ily too

[quick surge]

@cunning jungle

[cunning jungle]

the engima gambit i see, very well played

[quick surge]

nahhh but he couldve done that spanish butt fuck churro variation after that dice move tho shii

[cunning jungle]

very well played at the hold em interaction

betting and winning with a 10 kicker

[cunning jungle]

@quick surge remember this

[quick surge]

o yeah that

its stupid

dont touch anotherchess piece again

[cunning jungle]

wdym it's so sexy

[quick surge]

fuck

[cunning jungle]

[wild dune]

s5 ? 🤨

[mortal zinc]

https://youtu.be/r13i4gjplTQ

[mortal zinc]

Average chess game in Ohio

[brisk rose]

And this is how it looks ingame

[near bridge]

W

[brisk rose]

🥰

[tawny wadi]

@flat hinge

Lieutenant no wayy

[flat hinge]

?

[swift fractal]

so what does this prove?

that you paid for your esper?

[flat hinge]

dat wij blijkbaar scammen

[tawny wadi]

Stremz wasn't the only one who yoinked kids

[flat hinge]

echt een sukkel\

[swift fractal]

or are you trying to prove something else

[swift fractal]

waht is your point?

you still havent come to the point

[tawny wadi]

Nah i paid a good amount for both of my esper's

[swift fractal]

like what are we talking about

100$?

200$?

[flat hinge]

and you tell people different prices

LOL

[restive drift]

[storm coral]

like 350

[flat hinge]

Why is Titanboi highlighted?

1.4 for something that wasnt een 1.4

[storm coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1010556466417107058/1012490030847107152/IMB_pLaryo.gif

[flat hinge]

fax bon

[tawny wadi]

I use 2x multi

[flat hinge]

bro go outside 😭

[storm coral]

https://tenor.com/view/mrs-u-kurac-mamu-vam-jebem-charli-damelio-je-sprpkinja-kosovo-je-srbija-marko-peder-picka-ti-materina-gif-20347848

[restive drift]

[flat hinge]

This had me in tears

[tawny wadi]

Not my fault if PPL are down bad for kr

[swift fractal]

bro's not even responding to my question

only taking on questions he can win

[storm coral]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-nerd-emoji-meme-speech-bubble-bubble-gif-25115885

[tawny wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-nerd-alert-meme-speech-bubble-glasses-gif-25033886

[flat hinge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/942490154537459798/1057384185188335706/mechanical_keyboard.gif

[swift fractal]

keyboard warriors when they just cant win it anymore

ratio

[indigo hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-crazy-crazy-eating-0fucks-dont-care-gif-24831074

[flat hinge]

Sth with water

Idk

[frigid mortar]

Way better than what I expected

[golden sorrel]

GAH DAMN

[frigid mortar]

You don't work out right?

[silk oar]

i used to

[tiny skiff]

Nice goatee

[quick surge]

bread 👍

[silk oar]

well

"worked out"

i played football

thats it

[frigid mortar]

Just low body fat percentage

[silk oar]

but i guess 13 years of it becomes something

[silk oar]

old image lol

im clean shaved rn

[tiny skiff]

Lol

Hey do you know who yeat is?

I dont

[silk oar]

yes

[tiny skiff]

Star did this to me

[frigid mortar]

Imagine having a metabolism so good you just won't lose your abs 😭

[tiny skiff]

I asked mod to make my name something funny

[silk oar]

:3

my family is very jealous of me

like extremely

[bronze kelp]

photoshopped

[silk oar]

they all have some sort of fat

and then u have me

i like my body

[tiny skiff]

[quick surge]

definitely a man

[frigid mortar]

Abs scare away femboys surely

They seem masculine

[silk oar]

in theory yes

but they know abs is all i got

[quick surge]

can you add more detail to the armpit

[silk oar]

and see it as a pillow

[golden sorrel]

@flat hinge me too!

[silk oar]

so they cool with it

the last one was a fan atleast

[tiny skiff]

I have the same nav

[frigid mortar]

Abs are very hard pillows

[golden sorrel]

TECH DECKS!!!!!!

[silk oar]

yes but it feels nice

lol

[tiny skiff]

This i mean

[golden sorrel]

do it, hit up creshor

[quick surge]

meanwhile me https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/886570640537186314/1058635119256145993/image.png

[golden sorrel]

yeah hes doing like custom ones

[quick surge]

it was needed to validate for a giveaway

https://tenor.com/view/dioramoseggloshara-gif-25426460

[golden sorrel]

im doing a futurefunk board as practice for a potential next skin

[winged copper]

https://twitch.tv/nocware

[flat hinge]

does anyone have the old krunker hitmarker?

if u do pls send a link to it

the new one rly messed up my aim and now i cant hit a fucking shot

[brisk rose]

https://twitter.com/ShockahTF/status/1609395896718098433

Shockah (@ShockahTF)

https://t.co/Rjq3FgdDKG

Likes

163127

Retweets

19107

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Twitter · Jan 1, 2023, 3:47 AM

[loud tree]

saw that

hilarious

[tiny skiff]

Fruit snacks with a carrot

[vale sequoia]

what even

[solid anvil]

@flat hinge wtf sino yan

[flat hinge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1045924360063557642/1059413903609696257/377062601ac930c9d72e4e2cf2a0aeae.mp4

[narrow depot]

3-4

[upper marlin]

https://twitch.tv/dawnspisce

[brisk rose]

https://twitter.com/aby3fur/status/1610007323719737344

Aby! ✨🌈 🐇 (@aby3fur)

Made some major improvements to my nova skin in minecraft!! ✨🐇

Twitter · Jan 2, 2023, 8:17 PM

Fixed the face cuz it looked weird

[upper marlin]

https://twitch.tv/dawnspice LIVE LIVE LIVE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE

[grizzled frigate]

OMG LOL

BEA SENT ME THAT PFP

[lusty plank]

@silk oar

[silk oar]

😭

[south pawn]

@winged copper lol

u got a fan

[winged copper]

lmao

rent free

[vocal shale]

https://skribbl.io/?8wC2iqHv

[mossy heron]

okay?

[jaunty scarab]

:D

[teal oyster]

is this private lobby?

[vocal shale]

was

ended it a while ago

[teal oyster]

oh 💀

I've just been playing with randoms 😭

didn't realize

[vocal shale]

no shot

lmfao

[teal oyster]

bro I'm popping off though

[vocal shale]

im joining

[teal oyster]

cracked at skribbl

ffs bro

someone just drew a octagon and wrote "8 sides" when the word was hexagon 😭

[teal oyster]

nvm 99 is cracked

[flat hinge]

aight that sounds off i swear

rigged teams

is mic fix

[mortal trench]

who

tryna

1v1

3v3*

[teal oyster]

waiting on 1?

or open lobby

oh nvm game ongoing

[mortal trench]

4v4

😄

🙂

[flat hinge]

no

im banned

im banned from comp @pure seal

[teal oyster]

??

[flat hinge]

join us @flat hinge

[teal oyster]

what is there to be seen

[oak panther]

I think he is showing "looking for krunkette 1"

[teal oyster]

no definitely not

[unique sequoia]

proof that i have skill issues

[oak panther]

Oh

[mossy heron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/798695791471886349/1059651890436132934/image.png

@upper marlin

kpd joined after 3 rounds approximately

[upper marlin]

oki

[mossy heron]

thats why votekick should be improved

[upper marlin]

or switch lobis

[teal oyster]

I think that's a bad example

vote kick just makes the cheaters go to different lobbies

[teal oyster]

paired with the screenshot of all of them being banned*

[mossy heron]

round robbin until they get annoyed

[teal oyster]

plus

what would be your suggestion for improved vote kick

[mossy heron]

The same what literally any other game does, simply give it a timer, out of X check how many voted yes, how many no

then kick based on the result

multiple kicks in a short amount of time -> you get a timeout

its what other games do and this system successfully works

Votekick system has a great potential, but its simply unused

because
A. insta denied by some troll
B. neglect, nobody votes

[upper marlin]

git gud no votekick necessary

[mossy heron]

yes, cheaters have skill issue mostly, I beat them quite often

but still want them gone from the game

Iirc kpd panel also shows how many "reports" someone has

maybe also show the votekick amount in addition to what i suggested above

all of these things i just thought about a minute can be considered thoroughly my the dev team, they have statistics and they know how to implement it best

the way it is now is not good to begin with

[upper marlin]

the dev team is known for leaving these issues

[mossy heron]

its a flawed implementation at best

[mossy heron]

i know

[flat hinge]

[upper marlin]

so are you gonna try to talk to them or elaborate here

[mossy heron]

I already reached out to them

[upper marlin]

cuz for what i know this is random chat in krunker bunker

[mossy heron]

i try to ctrl+f on what i want to give feedback on before i actually do it to see if its a common issue

and im surprised nobody "really" mentioned it

i expected way more people talking about it

[upper marlin]

its been a common issue for the games existence

[mossy heron]

yeah, so how the fuck is krunker dev neglecting this

its like super easy to improve

[upper marlin]

it was huge years ago but no one talks about it anymre

they tried

it was kinda like u said for a while

[mossy heron]

tried what? I have not seen any proper attempt

[mossy heron]

yeah i remember kinda

but iirc there was some issue dont remember

[upper marlin]

the vote requirement was greatly reduced for weeks

but alas what acostu said, there was issues with actually good players just getting kicked nonstop

it was doing WAY more harm than good

[mossy heron]

wym good players, simply dont allow votekick on lvl X+?

[upper marlin]

kpd system good enough in theory

[upper marlin]

alts

[mossy heron]

then dont alt?

[upper marlin]

lmao

[mossy heron]

Does krunker even allow alting

to begin with

[upper marlin]

yes

[mossy heron]

well anyways, then dont alt

[upper marlin]

its a huge part of the game

removing alting in turn for votekick would piss the entire community off

[mossy heron]

ive asked people why they alt and mostly they did cuz either banned before, or abuse of rewards

[upper marlin]

couldnt be removed anyways

[mossy heron]

since they gain more kr when new

[upper marlin]

i alt because higher stats keep me playing this game

[mossy heron]

no need to remove alt, its a natural occurence, if you alt and get votekicked dont blame the system its not prohibited

[mossy heron]

so just ego

and for ego we give up on the health of the game

[upper marlin]

shoulda said that when the votekick change was made

[mossy heron]

KPD works, but barely at max, I consider myself lucky if i get someone banned

not more

votekick would be an intermediate step to counter this problem

[flat hinge]

Bro it's a game 😭😭😭

[mossy heron]

and?

I dont blame kpd either, they do their job as best as they can

its the games fault

[flat hinge]

Well...

People have been slacking

So have I

[mossy heron]

doesnt matter, kpd do their job as best as they can

[flat hinge]

Just can't be asked if there's 50+ calls at once

[mossy heron]

exactly

so make the game rule out cheaters themselves with votekicks

[flat hinge]

I get my 50 monthly from playing pics

Pubs

[mossy heron]

I see 50 cheaters by simply playing some weeks maybe

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/798695791471886349/1059651890436132934/image.png

like come one

this is a joke

[flat hinge]

Images don't load for me

[mossy heron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/798695791471886349/1059651890436132934/image.png

click

[flat hinge]

What's xml

[mossy heron]

oh damn

sec

[flat hinge]

Ah

[mossy heron]

like how fucked has the game to be for something like this to occur

btw is there some kind of replay system for kpds?

[flat hinge]

Anticheat they had worked for lik

[mossy heron]

Which logs a game for idk 10 min

[flat hinge]

2 days

[mossy heron]

anticheat is a difficult topic

[flat hinge]

If we have recording really

[mossy heron]

especially in browser world

[flat hinge]

We can't look back on games

[mossy heron]

damn, how difficult would it be to implement a replay system which holds an ingame replay of the game, basically logging the packets

like legit someone could pull this off without even being in the dev team

[flat hinge]

I think noon said something about that before

[mossy heron]

i mean, minecraft had that idea for ages

[flat hinge]

Not sure if it was here or other server

[mossy heron]

osu has it since 2007

each "play" is recorded into a small .osr file of couple kb

which can be replayed and show what the player exactly did each millisecond

a dedicated system for kpd which holds a 5min replay of a game if someone is reported would be super useful for kpd

they wouldnt even need to join games

only load the replay, do their checks and done

and the good thing about replays, if the votekick system would be restored, it would be visible if someone has votekicked someone wrongfully

in any case, what im talking something is easy to pull off if you are a dev of the game

and not even impossible to pull off if you are not a dev of the game

obv occasion

on cheater

second cheater

no way to votekick

🙃

what a working system

[mossy heron]

@flat hinge thats what i was refering too

[mortal zinc]

Best show on Netflix

[mortal zinc]

Chuck Norris can do wheelies on a unicycle

If Chuck Norris's parents had nightmares, they would come to his bedroom

Ghosts tell Chuck Norris stories around the campfire

[mossy heron]

@flat hinge theres not a single session where this does not happen

[wind karma]

sub to vinegar21

[upper marlin]

bro double pinged poor nik

[mortal zinc]

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ay5joqUWc4k?feature=share

[teal oyster]

@halcyon gulch

[halcyon gulch]

aight

[mortal zinc]

Bro what

How

[mossy heron]

krunker devs neglegting cheater problem

[mossy heron]

@flat hinge 4rth round without kpd and people denying votekick system is rigged

every single session of a krunker game a cheater joins, votekick is denied and kpd is too overloaded with other calls for rounds

[teal oyster]

why do you keep @ ing nick lol

and I dont see a call from you on the list

[mossy heron]

bro what

[mossy heron]

we were in a conversation above so i thought following up on it

dont intend to annoy him

[mossy heron]

wdym "list"?

[halcyon gulch]

same here

[mossy heron]

you got a log or what on krunker?

[mossy heron]

everyone, not only us

[halcyon gulch]

in every after 1 or 2 games i meet a hacker

[teal oyster]

I dont see your call

is what I'm saying

[mossy heron]

i dont understand

[teal oyster]

oSumAtrIX is ign right

[mossy heron]

i

with an i

yes

osu matrix

[teal oyster]

I'm looking at the list right now I'm not seeing it

[mossy heron]

oSumAtrIX

[mossy heron]

then explain the screenshot

yooooo is this a bug?

that would explain why kpd never join

[teal oyster]

what's the cheater's ign

[mossy heron]

taze something

it should be the last reported ign

i closed krunker after a game with him

its whatever

[teal oyster]

ok well

that's probably why there's no call

they prob just left the game

[mossy heron]

no like

[mossy heron]

nono

so basically I played a full round with him

2 rounds

and the third i left

after I saw calling kpd is futile

Is your panel keeping logs of that?

If so we might have a bug here calls not going through

[teal oyster]

no

[teal oyster]

well no

[teal oyster]

were you in the game when I sent this message?

[mossy heron]

no

i left right after I sent the ss

[teal oyster]

alright so it was possible they left then

[mossy heron]

should I play a round to test? I'll meet a cheater in minutes

[teal oyster]

and we wouldnt know

[mossy heron]

weird its implemented that way

kpd panel should at least keep some logs on who reported whom or who got reported by whom

[teal oyster]

why would that be useful though

[mossy heron]

because I can literally bypass current kpd panel by disconnecting and connecting to the game websocket after each game

or "logging in" and "logging out"

you'd have no knowdledge on "how much" someone was reported "in total"

[teal oyster]

not how it works

[mossy heron]

I could reconnect each game and reset the stats basically

[mossy heron]

well, whatever clears your panel

[teal oyster]

but why is that really useful though

it's just not

[mossy heron]

Because I see lvl 20 zooming with aimbot

🙃

I heard from acc sellers cheaters were buying accs from them

so could also be that

The other usecase is my current one

you tried to look the case up but were unable to

[mossy heron]

?

test your panel, if calls go through or whatever happens on your end

[teal oyster]

it works

for sure

[mossy heron]

gotchu

[teal oyster]

I have never had an issue with it

[teal oyster]

but like

of reports isnt really useful

what if they're an alt account that gets reported often

[mossy heron]

Oh btw, I applied for kpd twice so far, I've carefully filled the form, but got no response, what would you assume would be the reason I was denied? I have multiple "toxicity" reports, do you think that disqualifies me from being kpd and is the reason why it was not accepted

[teal oyster]

how do you know that?

[mossy heron]

Well, it would rank up on your panel and you would then be able to check up on the alt and eventually see its an alt

[teal oyster]

ok so

[mossy heron]

I have around 30 is what someone told me long ago

[teal oyster]

you're asking for a whole* new system

[oak panther]

look in #game-discussion

[mossy heron]

I dont know what goes on in your backend, i am just assuming some likely case 🙂

[teal oyster]

its not worth it to put this much resources in to a system that wouldnt really be used

or be of much use

if people really cared about getting someone banned, they would get #report-hackers

[mossy heron]

I am just saying, i dont know what your routine looks like, thats why i can only assume to so much extent

[mossy heron]

yop, its not worth the trouble

[teal oyster]

trouble of going through the report hackers form?

[mossy heron]

would you have a clue about that? I'd stop about trying to apply then instead of trying to apply multiple numerous times

[teal oyster]

or trouble of implementing your system

[mossy heron]

yeah

[teal oyster]

I dont deal with appeals

[mossy heron]

that is 10 min of work

[mortal zinc]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/534605399287136257/1059657132498223174/image.png

Crazy

[mossy heron]

its not a ban appeal, i was applying for kpd

i got a form to apply with

[teal oyster]

how would you know that 🤦‍♂️

[mortal zinc]

Not me btw

[teal oyster]

it's literally the guy above you lol

[mossy heron]

because I develop myself 🙃

[teal oyster]

but are you krunker dev though

[mortal zinc]

Wow

[teal oyster]

I dont deal with applications*

[mossy heron]

I have general knowledge on this topic

[mossy heron]

makes sense, whats your best bet?

[mossy heron]

ikr XD

It felt like popping a pimple

ban
ban
ban

4 actually lol

[mortal zinc]

I've seen 2 arrests in the same game before but never 3

WHAT

[mossy heron]

it was 4 xD

[mortal zinc]

4??!!

[mossy heron]

yep

[teal oyster]

you've got a history for sure

[mossy heron]

krunker moment

[mortal zinc]

4

F

O

U

R

[mossy heron]

😅 roasting dem cheaters too appealing

[teal oyster]

well for one you dont have 80 reports

which is what is recommended

[mossy heron]

ah well then

[mossy heron]

i didnt see anywhere suggesting 80

[upper marlin]

ahem

[teal oyster]

second you have triggerman over lvl 140 but rev lvl 7 so that's an immediate deny

[upper marlin]

you need like a hundred reports

[mossy heron]

wait wym? How does that matter

[teal oyster]

my suggestion

actually, noon's I believe

[mossy heron]

ive "heard" similar numbers

[teal oyster]

my suggestion would be 80-90 looking at recent entries

[mossy heron]

yeah reasonable

[teal oyster]

yea it's not uncommon

to say 80

[mossy heron]

sounds good

[teal oyster]

I wasn't the first, that's just what I say

[mossy heron]

what about this lol

[teal oyster]

I'm joking

[mossy heron]

damn you got me 💀

[mossy heron]

sounds reasonable

[teal oyster]

but get your other classes up

triggerman and smg main 💤

[upper marlin]

also stop arguing/trolling if you genuinely want it looks terrible and will get you denied

[mossy heron]

I like to work and get really good with a strong weapon and not waste my time with worse classes and have an allrounder skill

[mossy heron]

wym?

[teal oyster]

are you saying smg and ak gives you allrounder

oh nvm

you dont want to be an allrounder

[mossy heron]

nah i meant that these are the strongest

[mossy heron]

yeah i want to focus on 1 thing

i switched to smg after ak nerf

[teal oyster]

doesnt that get boring

using most op guns

[upper marlin]

have you tried famas

[mossy heron]

no i love the game because zooming around, only reason x)

[mossy heron]

yeah i need like 3 rounds

not really good

[teal oyster]

3 bursts?

[mossy heron]

yeah

[upper marlin]

lmao what

h

[mossy heron]

mostly 2

[teal oyster]

just aim

[upper marlin]

then u cant aim

[teal oyster]

yea 2 bursts is common

[upper marlin]

its the best gun rn

[teal oyster]

famas, rev, and semi are dopamine

moreso famas and rev

[upper marlin]

semi sexy too

[mossy heron]

thats what she said 🤡

[upper marlin]

ive been using it

8 ammo big L tho

[teal oyster]

if you want to improve though..

[mossy heron]

well im fairly good with smg/ak so ill stick to that, its the strongest and I am able to compete against lvl 200+

[teal oyster]

you should try semis

[upper marlin]

i find myself reloading every time i breathe

[teal oyster]

rev improved my aim a ton

[teal oyster]

I mean it's smg

[mossy heron]

yep

its easy

and its strong

[teal oyster]

but if you're just pub players then fair ig

[mossy heron]

best of two worlds

[teal oyster]

I just play all classes so I don't have to take smg slot in ranke

[mossy heron]

i only play pub yeah, i play krunker cuz relaxing to zoom around

Btw as an kpd do you have to reach a quota of bans or something?

Or do you have a certain routine or is it like you open the game play it and when you encounter cheaters you yeet them

Ik about the panel where you can pick up calls

[teal oyster]

yes

[teal oyster]

no

kpd is voluntary, we have no routines or literally ANYTHING relating to a job

[mossy heron]

ic

[teal oyster]

it's simply perms given to players, no expectations other than a tag quota

[mossy heron]

i'd be a good fit imo lol

[mossy heron]

not difficult to reach right?

[teal oyster]

if you play krunker often not hard

especially after the surge in cheaters

[mossy heron]

daily unfortunately lol

[teal oyster]

I have no issues getting the quota

[mossy heron]

gotchu, does krunker have proper server side ac, ive never seen any fly hacks

[teal oyster]

idk how it is for others though

[mossy heron]

yop makes sense

[teal oyster]

not that I've seen

[mossy heron]

likely the same

[teal oyster]

I believe once I saw someone walljump on ak.. in ffa

[mossy heron]

difficult anyways since you can basically fly anyways

[teal oyster]

I wasn't kpd though

[mossy heron]

💀 haha

[upper marlin]

craziest ive seen is an spawnkill hack

[mossy heron]

Krunkers KPD system is a nice try to tone down cheaters, but I believe the game can only survive if the players take it in their own hand

[teal oyster]

nah

[mossy heron]

how come?

[teal oyster]

game is growing but kpd doesnt scale with that

[mossy heron]

yeah its a nice try

[teal oyster]

as the game grows, kpd becomes less effective

however, ac exists

[mossy heron]

yeah which is why players have to take it in their own hand, guess what votekick couldve been useful for...

[teal oyster]

votekick isnt very useful

[mossy heron]

exactly

[mossy heron]

couldve

[teal oyster]

kpd ideally should deal with manual bans or high-end bans that require conversations

and kpd should only have to deal with a small portion of players that may bypass AC due to it being a browser game

[mossy heron]

I believe its also tedious to hop lobbies and ban cheaters

[teal oyster]

I mean like

ever

[mossy heron]

you likely waste lots of minutes hopping from lobby to lobby

so krunker could improve in that regard as well

[teal oyster]

I mean

I just see it as a sub-mode to krunker

not anymore tedious than pubs already are

[teal oyster]

not much for them to do there

I have no complaints with kpd itself atm

complaints as in, any QoL changes I would want

[mossy heron]

but doesnt hopping to lobbies like take at least 5s

[teal oyster]

does that matter

[mossy heron]

Inb4 i am a cheat dev and inquiring you for small information i can use against krunker 💀

[teal oyster]

I've given nothing anyways

[mossy heron]

Imo switching lobbies is what is most annoying

if it was instant/<1s I'd not care about cheaters

but its absolutely tedious to switch

[mossy heron]

actually a little

[teal oyster]

nope

[teal oyster]

ah that's what you mean

yea cheaters will always be annoying

it is what it is

[mossy heron]

i am talking for kpd

to answer 10 calls you already require 10*5 seconds

[teal oyster]

ok that's what I assumed

[teal oyster]

thats not an issue

[mossy heron]

how come

[teal oyster]

the issue is false reports

that take up way more time

[mossy heron]

theres a lot? yoo

[teal oyster]

yes

[mossy heron]

damn, i dont false report, maybe like once each 50 times when i missclick

[teal oyster]

if I had a constant stream of guaranteed 100% cheaters

[mossy heron]

how come people do false report

its so easy to spot cheaters

[teal oyster]

I would do kpd way more often

but going 10 minutes with 1 tag sucks

[mossy heron]

do low leveled players false report more or high leveled

[mossy heron]

yo no frkn way

thats really annoying

so if someone gets reported you see like a counter for them

even with that theres high change for false reports ?

Oh and a last thing, I usually trigger cheaters so they start to cheat more obv (reason for why theres so many toxicity reports on me)

[teal oyster]

lvl 61

[mossy heron]

no frkn way

literally just get rid of people like that?

This isnt even funny

[teal oyster]

that's what I would hope

I believe this guy also thought I was cheating

[mossy heron]

Nah like 10 false reports in a week and you out or smthn

or you dont have perms to false report anymore?

[teal oyster]

wdym

unhelpfuls?

[mossy heron]

basically why does krunker not restrict people who "abuse" kpd calls like that

[teal oyster]

maybe tone that down lol

[mossy heron]

say the quota reaches <X%

[teal oyster]

I'm not a dev

idk

[mossy heron]

wait i havent finished

[mossy heron]

not speaking from a dev perspective

i mean is there any specific reason?

Cuz that would help with false reports ig?

[teal oyster]

I mean

their calls basically won't get answered anymore

but not banned from the system

[mossy heron]

And I can see that it works, cheaters dont care they literally continue to cheat or their ego makes them cheat even harder, though kpd always tells me not to call out, which i dont understand why? They say the cheaters leave, which I know they dont, i could record and proof like without a pause of the recording

So why are kpd telling to not call them out

[teal oyster]

"which I know they dont"

wrong

[mossy heron]

HOW i literally see them remain ingame

literally

[teal oyster]

that's yo

[mossy heron]

they never leave

[teal oyster]

you*

[mossy heron]

well I am the one calling out, obv its me

[teal oyster]

yes

[mossy heron]

it literally works, it clashes with their ego and they start to cheat more

[teal oyster]

that's your experience

but many do leave

especially high level

[mossy heron]

If i have to throw an approximate number (including cheaters who are leaving regardless) its around 1/20 times a cheater leaves when called out

literally

I dont have reason to lie about it

[teal oyster]

ok that's great

[mossy heron]

its what I can see is happening

[teal oyster]

but who has more experience with cheaters?

[mossy heron]

It doesnt matter, you can be the allmighty god, i can see when someone leaves cant i?

And i see they dont leave

[teal oyster]

but why risk it

[mossy heron]

risk what

[teal oyster]

them leaving

[mossy heron]

risk 1/20 chance of them leaving

in return them cheating more obv

[teal oyster]

realize that's cause you're factoring people who don't care

[mossy heron]

leading to a higher successrate of kpd banning them?

[mossy heron]

wym?

[teal oyster]

if people don't care or have an account that's a throwaway

why do they care if they're gonna get banned?

[mossy heron]

they dont care, thats why they dont leave is what i am saying

[teal oyster]

for those who are closet cheating and don't want to be banned, if they're called out obviously they would care more?

and I'm speaking from experience

[mossy heron]

how many are closet cheating

and how many are obv cheating

the ratio is obv

[teal oyster]

I mean

[mossy heron]

maybe out of 20 cheaters 1 is closet

[teal oyster]

they could just leave anyways

[mossy heron]

exactly

[teal oyster]

so..???

just dont call out

[mossy heron]

.

[mossy heron]

it triggers their ego

[teal oyster]

no

[mossy heron]

its what i literally can see

[teal oyster]

it's just easier to tell everyone to not call it out

[teal oyster]

you're forgetting I'm also talking from what I CAN SEE

[mossy heron]

That is impossible, you as KPD can not see a match until called, I on the other hand can

since calling out happens in the time where you are not in the match

you cant see it

[teal oyster]

you forget I'm a player as well lol

I'm not only "kpd"

[mossy heron]

are you calling out? no

so how come you see it doesnt work

[teal oyster]

we've seen

[mossy heron]

I have no reason to lie

[teal oyster]

call out messages in chat

I've seen

then they leave

or I'm getting evidence for a 2nd opinion

but they leave early cause someone calls them out

[mossy heron]

okay krunker bunker

1*10^10

k that works

[mossy heron]

Okay how can I make you believe what i say, I could record an entire session of krunker. "Luckily" in a single session i encounter multiple cheaters. If calling them out shows that they dont leave, and instead messes with their ego, would you believe me?

you would literally see what i see

[teal oyster]

brother

no

[mossy heron]

okay so literally showing it to you doesnt make you believe

what else does 🙃

[teal oyster]

I've already explained

[mossy heron]

you just said that for you they leave

i said that for me they dont

i even provide visible proof

Your case would only be correct if there were more closet cheaters. Since logically a closet cheater doesnt want to be called out. It makes sense.
But it is the opposite, theres more cheaters who dont care than closet ones, which means tampering with their ego doesnt make them leave

[teal oyster]

--> new cheaters don't care, they just cheat
--> situations where they're closeting or dont want to be banned will leave
--> the "1/20" is most definitely based off the first point

Is calling them out to make them "more blatant" much more useful? Shouldn't kpd be able to see cheats as it is.. just as you saw them before?

[mossy heron]

i predicated what you would write

[teal oyster]

did you read it

[mossy heron]

Is calling them out to make them "more blatant" much more useful? Shouldn't kpd be able to see cheats as it is.. just as you saw them before?
I agree with this

Is it easy for KPD to spot?

[teal oyster]

if you agree then just don't call them out

you're taking an unnecessary risk

[teal oyster]

yes?

why wouldnt it be 💀

we literally see what you see

[mossy heron]

its krunker if i get banned i'd cry for approximately 0.1s

[teal oyster]

thats you

[mossy heron]

ye

[mossy heron]

me

[teal oyster]

ok like

[mossy heron]

reason being is that someone earlier told me kpd can join different regions

that involves issues with ping

[upper marlin]

i'd acc cry

[teal oyster]

situation 1:

• You see cheats, you call kpd, kpd also sees cheats, they get banned

situation 2:

• You see cheats, call it out in chat, roll that 1/20 chance if they leave, kpd sees cheats as they would've before, they get banned

[mossy heron]

its krunker lol

[upper marlin]

i love kruker

[teal oyster]

you're taking that 1/20 chance for no reason

[mossy heron]

create a new acc

lol

0.1s

[upper marlin]

but i dont cheat

[mossy heron]

you dont need to cheat to get banned

[mossy heron]

situation 1:

• You see cheats, you call kpd, kpd might not see cheats, if they are from a different region cuz ping

situation 2:

• You see cheats, call it out in chat, roll that 1/20 chance, but the benefit is high as they go wild with cheats, kpd can see even if different region

But that depends on how well kpd can see

if you say they can see well i believe you

in that case i'd agree

[teal oyster]

how much do you think 200ms changes spectate?

you're acting like it's completely different, like a 3 second difference

[mossy heron]

Quite a lot 200ms is only a bit higher than the human reaction time

So 200ms could be my reaction

[teal oyster]

it's a factor yes

[mossy heron]

yop

[teal oyster]

but aren't most cheaters in pubs blatant anyways?

[mossy heron]

yop

not closet

[teal oyster]

yea so

dont call out

[mossy heron]

so 1/20 or maybe even 1/30

[teal oyster]

just let kpd see it

[mossy heron]

kk

makes sense

[upper marlin]

comp player used blatant esp the other day and said he was watching spawns

yes because you can spawn behind walls

[mossy heron]

Anticheat is not an option for krunker

its too difficult to implement

KPD, well they can only do so much

Give the wand to the people, fix votekick

[teal oyster]

..

[mossy heron]

it is, krunkers mechanics are the worst enemy of ac

[teal oyster]

ac exists though

[mossy heron]

cap?

[teal oyster]

it literally exists

[mossy heron]

in ranked or where

or server sided?

[teal oyster]

everywhere

it just exists

[mossy heron]

so client side is cap

cuz

browser sandbox

not possible to make a proper client side ac

[teal oyster]

ok well it exists

you can choose to believe it or not idc

[mossy heron]

impossible, they need a host to run on the machine

such as in the case of ranked

its impossible to make it for pub lobbies

If the client side ac is inside the game and the sandbox a cheat can simply disable it

theres no client side obfuscation from what ive seen

and from what ive seen also cheats dont have any real measurements against client ac

leading to the conclusion the browser client doesnt have ac

leading back to the fact that only ranked has a chance of an ac with the host running an ac externally outside of the sandbox

[teal oyster]

im ngl im not gonna read that

but ac does exist

[mossy heron]

in pub

[teal oyster]

yes

[mossy heron]

client side

[teal oyster]

idk

can't give details on ac anyways

[mossy heron]

dont need, everything which is client side can be checked

[mossy heron]

thats literally what i am refering to

[teal oyster]

ok

[mossy heron]

client side browser ac is not feasible

its sandboxed

[teal oyster]

alright sure idk

[mossy heron]

and server side well

[mossy heron]

.

fast movement, zooming/flying around

I mean yeah

heuristics

but have you ever seen a cheater getting banned without kpd?

no

[teal oyster]

yes actually

many

[worldly coral]

how long does it take for kpd to respond my application mail cuz its been several days now

[teal oyster]

its in waves

[worldly coral]

oh ok

[teal oyster]

and you wont receive an answer

you'll be added if accepted

[mossy heron]

how come i never have seen

[worldly coral]

ig it takes a bit longer cuz of holidays?

[teal oyster]

doesnt happen in pubs

[worldly coral]

but i need a form first

[mossy heron]

bruh

[teal oyster]

or at least, not live

[mossy heron]

im talking about pub

[teal oyster]

it doesnt announce to chat

[teal oyster]

ohhh

you never received form

[worldly coral]

no

[mossy heron]

yes but i'd see if a cheater goes poof from a lobby

[teal oyster]

??

[worldly coral]

i didnt receive it yet

[mossy heron]

2 weeks max

[teal oyster]

also not how it works

[teal oyster]

ok so you didnt receive form

[teal oyster]

like what I said here

[mossy heron]

you just said this tho?

[worldly coral]

thats right

[teal oyster]

yea it doesnt announce in chat

[teal oyster]

ah that should only take a few days

devs really busy rn

what's your ratio

[worldly coral]

104 ig

[teal oyster]

of

[worldly coral]

104/105

[teal oyster]

ah

yea just email again in like a week or two

if you dont receive a form

[worldly coral]

ok thx

[mossy heron]

yes, so if a cheater gets banned without an annoucnement they would leave the lobby right

[teal oyster]

no

[teal oyster]

I said this earlier