general

[haughty pebble]

ur not built to get good at games i fear

[silk eagle]

I'm fine with that

[amber pivot]

rotations

[silk eagle]

I just don't think it's reasonable to expect people to get good with such a bimodal distribution of players

[amber pivot]

m2rk did none of this and only had demon aim

[silk eagle]

in 2019 sure, that was my fault

[cold narwhal]

honestly even if you did want to get good at a game you shouldn’t put that time into krunker

[amber pivot]

still won tournaments

[amber pivot]

Now you should lol

[haughty pebble]

because ur basing it on u
most people r fine if they actually play
ur just…diff

[amber pivot]

1000$ tournaments

[nova grove]

hi chat!

[cold narwhal]

oh interesting

[silk eagle]

I have run into maybe one or two pub sessions where I was anywhere near matched in skill

[amber pivot]

Yea and people are getting signed to orgs

[unborn reef]

Dont ask what valian put all his time into

[silk eagle]

In FRA it's all bots that don't know how to shoot

[amber pivot]

for like 50$ a month but it will probably rise

[modern rain]

Akallabeth

[cold narwhal]

top 100 NA…..

[silk eagle]

in US servers it's all people that are so much better than me I can't get a shot off

[unborn reef]

Us both

[cold narwhal]

2000 concurrent…..

[haughty pebble]

idk what to tell u
if u wanna get good and don’t have an iq sub 80 then it should be trivial to work out what ur bad at and then practice that thing

[unborn reef]

Very...

Forgot the word

Optimistic

[cold narwhal]

get signed and quadruple ur net worth

[haughty pebble]

if they r faster, prac ur movement
if u cant hit them, aim prac

[unborn reef]

Emd

[haughty pebble]

etc etc

[amber pivot]

Thanks automod

[silk eagle]

yeah, I did aim practice. I can shoot targets moving under mach 7 just fine

[amber pivot]

But you get 50 a month to j*rk off in a clan

[cold narwhal]

mordhau check hit maybe i can get a mcchiken…

no meal

[haughty pebble]

ok so get better until u can hit mach 9

[amber pivot]

idk who isn’t taking that

[haughty pebble]

like

what do u want

[silk eagle]

but I can't since nobody goes mach 3

like in 2019 there were people at my skill level

[cold narwhal]

bro just give it up 😭

[silk eagle]

now there's nobody

[unborn reef]

No pop no nothing

[amber pivot]

@haughty pebble wanna sponsor me for my new mouse

I need 20 buckssss

[cold narwhal]

brother i don’t even think they’re gonna wrap the mchcicken for me

[haughty pebble]

ok so use kovaaks idk this shouldn’t be hard ur just banging ur head against the wall

[cold narwhal]

just gonna throw that shit at me

[amber pivot]

if you put a buck in my cup

Then I will shut the f*ck up

[unborn reef]

They might not even give you mayo

[silk eagle]

it's like saying "oh your dumbass can't figure out how to compete with NBA players? just shoot hoops"

no I'm never going to be that good

[haughty pebble]

sorry i’m poor
what mouse tho

[cold narwhal]

i have mayo money buddy

[amber pivot]

Attack shark x3

[unborn reef]

Ok integral what do you want from us

What is your desired outcome

[amber pivot]

I don’t have money for that expensive sh*t

[silk eagle]

I'm just bitchin lol

[unborn reef]

Gotcha

[haughty pebble]

u might be disabled
ur complaining u can’t
i’m saying ur not putting in even a tenth of the prac they do
if u wanna keep up do something about it

[silk eagle]

point is, it's not a pleasant time to be a noob in Krunker pvp

[unborn reef]

Do u got secret sauce money?

[cold narwhal]

it’s gonna be tight

[amber pivot]

Wanna scrim against me ceaf and demise

NBA level

[silk eagle]

I don't even know what scrim means lmao

[cold narwhal]

oh brother

[amber pivot]

What rank did you reach in the vaaks @haughty pebble

[bitter pilot]

what is happening in this chat

[silk eagle]

I'm a mediocre bhopper don't shoot me I didn't do nothin

[silk eagle]

I'm getting bullied for griping about good pvpers

[bitter pilot]

i smelled slidehopping and i got summoned

[unborn reef]

Valian gripping rn

[haughty pebble]

very low tbh
i’m not a kovaaks kid
jade s4

[silk eagle]

what does that smell like

[bitter pilot]

very good

[odd relic]

Smells like bella

so

[amber pivot]

I don’t even have a rank

[odd relic]

mud

[haughty pebble]

i’m doing hella old routines rn

[bitter pilot]

shut up verty

[silk eagle]

damn what he do

[cold narwhal]

??

[glass pawn]

what ever happend to dq professional noob

[haughty pebble]

aimer7 training

[bitter pilot]

alot of things

but its a joke when i say shut up to him so

[oak blade]

Well with that attitude you wont be

[bitter pilot]

sunny truth bombing

[silk eagle]

Nothing, in particular. Still doing his own thing

[oak blade]

Bro thinks nba players come out of the womb at that level

lol

[amber pivot]

There’s always gonna be someone better than you at anything

[odd relic]

except bella

[oak blade]

Shouldnt compare yourself to people

[amber pivot]

your aim is to go around them and ask questions

What are they doing you’re not

that’s how you improve yourself

[silk eagle]

You tabula rasa people think that Danny DeVito could be an NBA player if he trained hard enough lol

[bitter pilot]

im better than you at anything

[silk eagle]

people are genetically predisposed to be better at certain things

[glass pawn]

how do you feel about jokic averaging a triple double

[cold narwhal]

who you think winning tn

[bitter pilot]

hi secret

huge fan

[oak blade]

I think you can do anything you put your mind to in life, if you're gonna come out the gate saying "oh im never gonna be this" well you've already failed

[modern rain]

hello bella me too

big fan

[silk eagle]

it doesn't matter that much, again a) I'm just griping and I don't intend to fix it b) I was making a more modest point that it's not pleasant. Just because it's possible to develop your skills doesn't mean it's enjoyable. Having a dismissive attitude about the majority of the prospective user base (people who aren't all that great) is just setting up Krunker to continue to struggle to retain new players

[silk eagle]

you're wrong

how many people with downs syndrome have gotten a PhD in mathematics

[regal spear]

🍿

[amber pivot]

Bro

ur not serious

[quasi turtle]

Hiiii

Good night everyone

[odd relic]

so ur better than me at being stupid

[quasi turtle]

Have a great day ahead

[odd relic]

Tuff profile

[silk eagle]

serious about what

[glass pawn]

Ah i have an unfinished massive palace map that younger me thought would get me verified

[quasi turtle]

Thank you, a special someone made it for me

[bitter pilot]

actually no, ur better than me on that

[silk eagle]

share in MMOK

gtg rn but

[regal spear]

[silk eagle]

anyway

[regal spear]

Should have finished it

[glass pawn]

Younger me from 5 years ago made it so its shit, ill show a picture though

[oak blade]

😭

[odd relic]

So u lied wow

[cunning notch]

max win

[oak blade]

Very strange example

[silk eagle]

yay

[bitter pilot]

u lie everyday when u talk in the cool server so, me lying one time wont change the economy

[silk eagle]

sometimes it takes an extreme example to show the absurdity of a claim. It's called reductio ad absurdum

[odd relic]

thats a lie also

lol

[glass pawn]

its in mmok

lol it looks so bad

[bitter pilot]

i think if i pinged orca rn

he would say otherwise

[odd relic]

do it

[oak blade]

I dont think the claim is absurd at all

[bitter pilot]

dont wanna bother the big O

[odd relic]

L

@stoic yarrow

[bitter pilot]

well ig u did

[silk eagle]

What you said is a motivational plattitude

And it's objectively false.

There are obviously things that people can't do, regardless of their attitude.

[solar forge]

Another day and still no update

Any news on it?

[amber pivot]

You’re the most depressing guy I’ve met bro

[bitter pilot]

update is in 2027

[amber pivot]

This mindset is so terrible

[oak blade]

If you go into things with that mindset, you'll never achieve anything in life

[silk eagle]

How is it depressing to not lie

[pseudo girder]

some things are physically not possible sure but its more about the mindset

[stoic yarrow]

whats up?

[odd relic]

orca

hi

[bitter pilot]

that verty keeps spreading lies and misinformation in the cool server

[amber pivot]

Yeah you can be real but this shit is like you think you’re permanently going to be a loser

[silk eagle]

Another false plattitude

[pseudo girder]

I couldnt be a brain surgeon because I have a fine motorics disorder

[bitter pilot]

is that true

[pseudo girder]

thats just how it is

[odd relic]

whats a pretty whale like you doing in a place like this

[stoic yarrow]

hard facts

[bitter pilot]

see

[amber pivot]

You know how many people told me I was too small to play basketball

[stoic yarrow]

the haters were right

[bitter pilot]

the haters are always right

[amber pivot]

not if I got offers from d2

[regal spear]

You can still become a brain surgeon. Not good with but still a brain surgeon

[silk eagle]

How? There are certainly things within my ability. It is a reasonable goal to become conversant in Spanish or Italian or German. It is not a reasonable goal for me to become a neurosurgeon, because I don't have steady hands.

[amber pivot]

while being abroad

[odd relic]

get me out of the UK bro

its too cold rainy and dark

[bitter pilot]

u put yourself there

[silk eagle]

Exactly

[bitter pilot]

fucking american

[amber pivot]

if you have a dream, go for it

[odd relic]

Its abt the experience

[oak blade]

Im not talking about physical disabilities

[amber pivot]

that’s how it’s meant to be

[silk eagle]

Are you in the NBA?

[bitter pilot]

why u complaining then

[oak blade]

But even people with physical disabilities do extraordinary things

[odd relic]

Its cold rainy and dark

[amber pivot]

I’m not even old enough

[silk eagle]

NCAA?

[odd relic]

Yeah just look at bella

[bitter pilot]

im LOVING the vibe rn that its dark, rainy and COLD

[pseudo girder]

its too cold

[odd relic]

it gets dark at 4pm

I cant

[bitter pilot]

L

[bitter pilot]

i think u messed up the names

[amber pivot]

Yes

div 2

[bitter pilot]

i think u meant to put yourself there

[silk eagle]

Extraordinary things, but there are limits. There is a reason there are the "paralympic" games.

[odd relic]

Nope

[bitter pilot]

i wish it was -1 here

[silk eagle]

why not d1

[pseudo girder]

Id take -8 over -1 with wind

[amber pivot]

I’m not good enough

[bitter pilot]

im chilling with my 22c and raining

[amber pivot]

Also I’m abroad

[silk eagle]

Right, and do you think you could be good enough to be in the NBA when you're old enough?

[amber pivot]

Of course I do

[pseudo girder]

thats when people start to wear short clothing here

[amber pivot]

I’m gonna be the best Kobe Bryant

[silk eagle]

ahuh

[bitter pilot]

average germans

[amber pivot]

tunnel mindset

[bitter pilot]

we wear shorts here with 30+

[silk eagle]

see there's nothing wrong with saying "you can usually achieve more than you think" but it's not "loserthink" to acknowledge there are limitations on what you can achieve

[pseudo girder]

30+ is considered very hot here

[bitter pilot]

u wouldve died like a month ago then

[pseudo girder]

highest I got last year was 38

[amber pivot]

There aren’t limitations

results show

[silk eagle]

yes there are

[bitter pilot]

it got to like 35 for like a week straight feeling like 37-38 ish

[modern rain]

until 40 it is not so hot here

[amber pivot]

You’re talking about things you can’t change

[modern rain]

40 is hot

[amber pivot]

like height etc

[silk eagle]

what results

[bitter pilot]

a few years ago it was month straight 40 degrees

[amber pivot]

You can clearly see where you improve

what are you trying to say

[silk eagle]

did I say you couldn't improve?

[pseudo girder]

kinda interesting how you can experience heat/freezing related health issues/injuries at lower/higher temps depending on where you live

[sour wren]

cuff is pushing 40 btw

[amber pivot]

you said what results

[silk eagle]

I merely said there are limitations and there are things that are not reasonable expectations for people to do

[regal spear]

Shorts until -5

[amber pivot]

results is where you improve

[bitter pilot]

crazy

[pseudo girder]

truth

[sour wren]

why stop at -5

[silk eagle]

You said "There aren’t limitations
results show"

There are limitations

[pseudo girder]

but Ive been getting more sensitive to temperature

[silk eagle]

I was asking for some study

[amber pivot]

.

[bitter pilot]

i wish it was cold like that here, i despise when its very warm

[regal spear]

My mum used to take away my shorts when it got -5 when I was still in school living at home xD

[sour wren]

my brother is in berlin rn and his weather app said "felt like -14" 😭 @pseudo girder

[bitter pilot]

imma move to europe

[silk eagle]

So?

[oak blade]

If you have that mindset for everything you do in life you'll achieve nothing, but yeah if you're blind you cant become a pilot, that's obvious

[pseudo girder]

the wind is horrible bro

[silk eagle]

Do you think I've achieved nothing?

[amber pivot]

This is what I’m trying to say

[sour wren]

its 7 here rn idk abt the feels like

[amber pivot]

you sound so miserable

[bitter pilot]

imma go to europe hunt verty down, and live in a cool country

[amber pivot]

like optimism is your worst enemy

[silk eagle]

I'm not, I'm a content person. I'm saying your plattitudes are wrong and silly.

[amber pivot]

it’s like it’s you against you and you lost

[silk eagle]

And they are, objectively wrong, and you acknowledged as much.

[amber pivot]

You don’t have self pride

[regal spear]

All of y’all are right. There are limitations but you are still able to reach almost everything or at least get closer to that goal if you really want and try. Not EVERYTHING tho and it’s always a good mindset and motivation to keep one going

[oak blade]

We're talking about mindset, not objective truth

[sour wren]

yeah kill verty

[sour wren]

broforce, fire game

[amber pivot]

being able to push yourself is what pioneered everything around you

[bitter pilot]

will do so mr bjarny

[silk eagle]

There is a distinction to be made between optimism, delusion, and useless sayings.

[oak blade]

For real

Im glad you recognize the pfp

[pseudo girder]

everyone should move to germany

[regal spear]

???

[bitter pilot]

isnt germany like very stinky

[amber pivot]

I’m not talking delusion or useless sayings

[sour wren]

i played that game way too much with my brother

[bitter pilot]

or am i geeked

[pseudo girder]

apart from politics its great here

[regal spear]

Some cities like prob everywhere in this world xD never had issues with that myself

[oak blade]

Yeah it's really fun to play with others, I used to play it with my dad

[regal spear]

And still worse politics out there

[pseudo girder]

yeah

[bitter pilot]

germany politics cant be worse than brazilian

going all in the germany

[silk eagle]

The inciting claim of this discussion was "I think you can do anything you put your mind to in life". This is false and everyone here has acknowledged at least once that it was false, so we're done here.

[sour wren]

belgium would never have problems with politics

[bitter pilot]

i know 2 words in german am i cooked??!

[pseudo girder]

fair enough

[pseudo girder]

same

[bitter pilot]

ok so if a german knows 2 words in german im safe

[oak blade]

Physically there are certain limitations yes, nobody is denying that. Im saying if you apply this mindset to anything you do in life, you've lost already

[sour wren]

whenever i see german and brazil in the same vicinity i think of 7-1

[sour wren]

me too

[pseudo girder]

I remember watching that live

[bitter pilot]

thats what emily does to me

everytime

[oak blade]

Idk why anyone would try and push themselves if they had your mindset

[sour wren]

😭

[pseudo girder]

I hate that they made fun of people crying about it tho

[amber pivot]

@oak blade Have a good night bro

I’m sleeping

[bitter pilot]

i mean

[oak blade]

gn mate

[bitter pilot]

crying about football is the cringest shit for me

i cant lie

[regal spear]

^

[amber pivot]

Nah there are some times where you are allowed to cry in a sport man

[sour wren]

i joined kb when i was 15 and now im almost 18 😿 3 years of life i'll never get back

[regal spear]

Yelling at people as if you would play better sitting in front of your tv shovelling chips and beer into you are the same

[pseudo girder]

I myself feel the same but with everything that has happened in my life Ive learned to not be too judgemental of what other people enjoy

[amber pivot]

I cried all night when I didn’t get a single d1 offer but no one knew

[bitter pilot]

i mean i dont judge people aswell, its just my personal opinion

all my family despises football

so

[amber pivot]

you’re not Brazilian

[pseudo girder]

I used to be a youth trainer and played myself

[silk eagle]

Because I can distinguish between reasonable and unreasonable goals. Again, this aspirational/motivational plattitude is unnecessary if you are not depressed or a child. I set goals that are reasonable and I generally meet them. Is it possible that I have missed the opportunity to do something great? Yes. But I did the risk analysis and I didn't think the opportunity cost of trying was worth it. That's okay.

[amber pivot]

I strip that title off you

[sour wren]

fake brazilian

[bitter pilot]

please do

[pseudo girder]

I have a shirt with the signature of Marco Reus

[bitter pilot]

i dont like being brazilian

like at all

[amber pivot]

MANOOOOO

T TOMA TOMA

[sonic turret]

Hello

[unborn reef]

🙁

[sonic turret]

Anyoen i know here

[bitter pilot]

i would much rather be from any other country

than brazil

[unborn reef]

Por que

[bitter pilot]

pancito knows portuguese??

[sour wren]

belgium accepts everyone with open arms

[bitter pilot]

no way

[regal spear]

Don’t say that to the Germans

[sour wren]

😭

[pseudo girder]

over recent years Ive become quite proud to be german, sure we have some problems but so does every country

[bitter pilot]

do you say that to the loud people u talk to?

[pseudo girder]

we still somewhat care about our own people when it comes to social issues

[sour wren]

belgium has 0 problems 🥱

[pseudo girder]

netherlands from wish

[bitter pilot]

[sour wren]

ignore wallonia

[sonic turret]

Play matches sell items and do the zombie strat where u get frogs and sell then

Them

[pseudo girder]

I was in brussels 2 years ago

[sonic turret]

Woah

[pseudo girder]

actually no

3 years now wtf

[sour wren]

my condolences

im going to brussels in a few months

for a school trip

[sonic turret]

What was the stuff again to get into jump

The kanji and slide moonlight right

[sour wren]

you have to jump

i think

[bitter pilot]

sub 5 minutes on slide_moonlight

[silk eagle]

sub 5 on moonlight + Kanji

[bitter pilot]

and kanji jump

[silk eagle]

stop copying me

[sonic turret]

Yea alr i knew it then

[pseudo girder]

I was supposed to go to tuscany for a school trip but covid happened 💔

[regal spear]

Don’t be banned

[sonic turret]

Woah

Alr

[sour wren]

💔

we're going to rome

[bitter pilot]

🤨

[sour wren]

or well most of my class

it's during a break tho

and im not going

[regal spear]

[bitter pilot]

[sour wren]

only trip that got cancelled for me was canterbury and that was because of the brexit

[pseudo girder]

😭

I applied for a new travel passport today

[sour wren]

yeah something about not everyone having a passport and they cant force us to get one or something

[sour wren]

fire

[pseudo girder]

kinda interesting that its easier to get into turkey now than the UK

[bitter pilot]

go hunt secret

[sonic turret]

How do some people not have a passport?

[bitter pilot]

i dont have one

[sonic turret]

Aight

[sour wren]

i mean i don't need a passport for all the countries i travel to so

[pseudo girder]

I only needed my ID for turkey, for the UK I need my passport, travel passport and something similar to a visa

[sonic turret]

Most people i think in my area have ine

Ig its not uncommon not to not have one

[sonic turret]

Ah i see

[silk eagle]

goodness Sunny just finish up

[pseudo girder]

travel passport expires and within the EU you rarely need one

[sour wren]

yeah i mean the only other countries i (regularly) go to are spain, germany, france and the netherlands ig

[oak blade]

I mean if you wanna live in your own comfort box that's cool, I dont think it's a bad thing for people to have very high aspirations for themselves, as long as you're young you have the freedom to pursue whatever you'd like, you just gotta have a plan. It's also okay to set goals for yourself and not meet them, it's good to get out of your comfort zone and try out different things in life

[sonic turret]

Yea im sadly not in the eu

[pseudo girder]

I usually stay within Germany but I do want to travel more in the future

[bitter pilot]

freedom country?

[pseudo girder]

I need to go to Luxemburg, then Ive been to every country around germany

[sour wren]

i mean regularly very loosely, i haven't traveled outside of belgium in a few years now i think

[sonic turret]

Ig

[sour wren]

last time was either spain or germany

[sonic turret]

Not America tho

[sour wren]

"freedom"

[pseudo girder]

I was in Switzerland and Lichtenstein for a day trip last year, it was amazing

[bitter pilot]

🤨

[sonic turret]

I like Europe its real beautiful

[sour wren]

my friend goes to switzerland a lot to go skiing

[pseudo girder]

literally an instagram post trip 💀

[sonic turret]

Anyone here serbian i doubt it tho

[silk eagle]

Outside comfort zone fine, just be realistic. I don't like plattitudes. No, not believing "I can do anything" won't impede you from your goals. A lot fewer people would be in massive debt if they had circumspect views of their abilities and talents.

[pseudo girder]

barely any people around, found a small restaurant hut in the middle of a valley and ate cheese and ham surrounded by mooing cows

[sour wren]

actually nvm i just realised i went to paris last year

[sour wren]

😭

[pseudo girder]

I havent been to Paris yet

[silk eagle]

People need to acknowledge that sunk costs are sunk and opportunity costs exist.

[sour wren]

i went with school last year

[old wedge]

how are weeeeee

[sour wren]

2 days

[pseudo girder]

it felt unreal

[bitter pilot]

hi billt

huge fan

[sour wren]

paris was nice

[old wedge]

hII BELLLA

BBUGE FDAN

[pseudo girder]

I dont think Id want to spend much time in Paris tbh

[sour wren]

i walked around near the notre dame for like 3 hours

[sonic turret]

Anyone here flip balisongs

Butterfly knifes

[sour wren]

yeah no it was nice but im glad it was only 2 days

[pseudo girder]

if the Eurostar wasnt so crazy expensive

[sour wren]

i have one but its rusty asf

[sour wren]

yeah we went by bus

[sonic turret]

Ah lol i got a blue one

[oak blade]

Theres also a lot of people who took risks getting out of their comfort zone and are very successful today

[pseudo girder]

flixbus my goat

[sour wren]

whenever i go to spain its by bus too

because my mom is scared of flying

[pseudo girder]

okay that sounds awful

[sour wren]

it is

[oak blade]

But if you keep your expectations low, you'll never be disappointed so if that's how you wanna live your life go for it

[sour wren]

last time it was okay though

the bus was basically empty

so i had the entire back row to myself

[silk eagle]

People have a disordered view of success.

[pseudo girder]

Ive been using flixbus for 2 hour ish trips and Ive honestly never had issues

[sonic turret]

Anyone here serbian

[pseudo girder]

never even had a seat neighbour

[sour wren]

yeah i dont remember how long it was to spain but it was a while

and a few stops of course

[pseudo girder]

that has to be over 20 hours

[sour wren]

the stops in france were so expensive

[pseudo girder]

unless it was like a direct connection

[sour wren]

yea it was a while i dont remember how long tho

around that i think yeah

[silk eagle]

Going outside your comfort zone for something that has a low opportunity cost like asking a girl out, that's great and the kind of comfort zone breaking you should do. If you're just not talented or very intelligent and see dollar signs in say a surgical position, you should absolutely not dump money into med school. See the difference here?

[pseudo girder]

I pay less for a 1st class ticket with seat reservation and a meal from south to north germany

[sour wren]

😭

[silk eagle]

You cannot actually do anything you set your mind to, and you need to be judicious about what you spend time effort and money on

you have obligations to things other than your own greed

[pseudo girder]

and thats one way

[oak blade]

"if you're just not talented or very intelligent"

Notice how you instantly set those limits for yourself

[sour wren]

i'm gonna pay around that (a little more) for an entire year

for my train next year for college

[silk eagle]

I'm not setting those limits for myself. I'm intelligent enough to be a medical doctor, I just don't want to be one because I think human flesh is utterly disgusting.

[sour wren]

its €184

[pseudo girder]

Idk how much my UK trip is gonna cost yet

[silk eagle]

I would be miserable in the very first anatomy class.

[pseudo girder]

I hope I get my passport in time 💀

[silk eagle]

I was speaking generally

[sour wren]

😭

[oak blade]

Alright so you can be one, but you're choosing not to pursue that field of study, completely fine but you're not saying you cant be

[silk eagle]

there are those who lack the intellectual abilities and talent to go into the medical field

[sour wren]

thank god a massive student discount exists otherwise itd be like 600+

[pseudo girder]

but flying to london and back with a carry on is around 120€

[silk eagle]

Because I know that being a medical doctor is a reasonable path. I did say however that a neurosurgery position was outside of my reasonable career paths, because my hands just aren't steady enough

[pseudo girder]

you could unironically go for a day trip with a small rucksack for under 50€

[oak blade]

Right so they just shouldnt even try according to you?

[silk eagle]

If someone has chronically shaking hands no they should not try to be a neurosurgeon. Waste of money and time.

[oak blade]

yeah im not talking about a physical disability

Idk why you keep bringing that up

[silk eagle]

There is no hard line for physical disability

[sonic turret]

Man it costs around 1k per person in economy class to go from where i live to Europe

[oak blade]

you're giving the most clear cut examples of a physical disability lol

[sour wren]

where do u live

[sonic turret]

Canada

[sour wren]

normal canada or quebec canada

[sonic turret]

Normal

[sour wren]

good

[sonic turret]

💀

[sour wren]

im from normal belgium not wallonia

[sonic turret]

Lol cool

[silk eagle]

Shaky hands is not clear cut. I have shaky hands. Diagnosable? No, probably not. Here's another example: I do not have the same rote memorization capacity as some other people. I'm not disabled. But there are some people who just have better rote ability.

[sonic turret]

Belguim is nice

Gium

Aight igtg

Yall should add me on krunker

[oak blade]

So you have to work harder than those people

People are born with advantages yeah, but hard work beats talent

[sonic turret]

Hard work paired with talent is the best

[oak blade]

ofc but hard work still beats talent

[ashen heart]

[sour wren]

chiccen

[sonic turret]

Yea i get it

[sonic turret]

Food

[pseudo girder]

in my opinion you need some baseline privilege to be remotely succesful

[sour wren]

chicken nugget 🤤

[sonic turret]

Lmao

[silk eagle]

One of the reasons I think testing accommodations are so silly for mental disabilities, is that mild attention disabilities are not clear cut. I don't like testing much either, and I struggle to focus sometimes. But I don't get these advantages because I am not marked as having this disorder, which is an arbitrarily defined behavioral-observation-diagnosed thing.

[sonic turret]

Aight imma go jow

Yall add me

[sour wren]

im hungry

[sonic turret]

Its the second word in my anne

Bame

Bamr

Name

Holy

[sour wren]

stroke

[sonic turret]

Lol

[sonic turret]

Me 2 lowley

[sour wren]

time to make some food

"make"

[silk eagle]

Not always, again, doesn't matter how hard a 60 IQ person works they're not going to get a PhD in mathematics, because they are too mentally disabled to do so.

Hard work can beat talent plus low effort, but talent and hard work will beat mere hard work.

This is another useless and misleading platitude.

It's just unnecessary

[modern rain]

yep

[solid helm]

Wus Goin here.

[silk eagle]

discourse

[oak blade]

You'd be surprised how many talented people are out there who put low effort into things

[pseudo girder]

@real pivot 👀

(jk)

[amber pivot]

YEOOO I JUST WOKE UP TO A BANK NOTIF

DA MONEY HIT

[solid helm]

Ok ok

NICE

[silk eagle]

how much

[solid helm]

now gamble

[amber pivot]

I don’t leak that sh*t

[silk eagle]

😄

[amber pivot]

Too confidential

[solid helm]

👌

[amber pivot]

(100$)

[oak blade]

It definitely helps but I wouldnt say it's absolutely necessary, lots of people have had success despite not having privileges

[sour wren]

put it all on black

[amber pivot]

I’m putting it all on Amazon bro

[solid helm]

U know it

[sour wren]

boring 🥱

put it all on green @amber pivot

[oak blade]

I just think if you're gonna count yourself out of something without even trying, it's a bad mindset to have

[amber pivot]

Nah bro

I’m putting it on hakari

[sour wren]

hakari from jjk

[oak blade]

So what about a person with an average IQ

[sour wren]

kb's average iq is 40

[oak blade]

🥀

[modern rain]

@sweet trail @lone stream am i the best tank or what??

im diffing every tank so crazily

[regal spear]

no

[lone stream]

good night

[modern rain]

am i or am i not

[lone stream]

good night

[modern rain]

ok...

[sweet trail]

You gotta play tank in ranked

[modern rain]

i dont trust anyone but you guys, im sure id die in 1 sec because of bad teammates bro

[lone stream]

Yes you are my glorious tank in shining armour

[modern rain]

thanks

it makes me cry out of happiness

[lone stream]

What im saying is I want you to play rein

And nano solo shatter my sleeps

[modern rain]

i thought about it when they were zarya

[sweet trail]

Thatd be a spectacle

[modern rain]

but Ram is more my wager

i was doing well with Dva too

they just swapped to zarya

im so good with roadhog and sigma too

bro Im insane gn

[sweet trail]

Good day

[lone stream]

Good night

[silk eagle]

There is no discrete level of ability and disability when it comes to intellectual ability (besides, I guess, dead), but your innate talents are definitely relevant in what you are likely to achieve. If you had the global average intelligence, it's still pretty unlikely you're going to nab a PhD in, say, mathematics or physics in any respectable program.

But again, we already went over this and we more or less agree, I just don't like your framing.

[lone stream]

🤨

[cunning notch]

@modern rain lets play deadlock

[unborn reef]

@real pivot you still playing

[stoic sphinx]

anyone know how to recover an old account

[stray shell]

whats the current account requirement to host 20 player lobbies?

[stoic yarrow]

you might need premium

[pure zodiac]

supoort

support*

[haughty pebble]

average iq could 100% get a phd in many even if not every field
most academia other than maybe forefront understanding of new scientific concepts is more effort and work ethic/study based than raw intelligence

maths and physics still very much on the cards

[silk eagle]

What's the highest level of math you have taken?

[haughty pebble]

nothing crazy
discrete maths set theory algorithms and shit as part of comp sci at uni
average iq could probs do a phd in those areas i’d assume

[signal zenith]

It's more about having enabling environments more than anything

[odd relic]

hi asokra

[signal zenith]

You'll see this a lot in history with intelligence at least

[signal zenith]

hi

[silk eagle]

We are in the most enabling environment in human history. In the US, internet access is functionally 100%.

[haughty pebble]

weird take when i’d assume even u can work out that family environment and opportunities r the factor we r talking about

[silk eagle]

I don't think you have an accurate understanding of the intellectual capabilities of the average person, even in America, let alone globally.

[haughty pebble]

maybe i’m over estimating them ig

r u average?

[silk eagle]

No.

[haughty pebble]

rough

[silk eagle]

I am far above average, as are you.

Don't let your intelligence and your peers fool you into a false sense about the world.

[haughty pebble]

i talk like a spastic online how could u know that 😭

i need to step up my game
or down? idk

[silk eagle]

It is a reasonably fair assumption that someone who has made it through university set theory and algorithms classes (in what, C?) is batting a bit above average in the noggin.

[odd relic]

this conversation is too intellectual for KB

[haughty pebble]

yeah most of uni was in c

[odd relic]

what are yall even talking abt

[signal zenith]

Well internet access doesn't equal enabling, for example look at how education systems are structured in the west compared to parts of asia

[silk eagle]

Yeah, again, you are operating under severe selection biases because you lived in (or went to daily) an educational institution.

[vague shoal]

someone tell to Glen and Leo that how much should we wait more for season 9.1?

[silk eagle]

Internet access enables any motivated person to get a free education through at least an undergraduate level.

[haughty pebble]

goth girls

[signal zenith]

keyword motivated

but motivation is different for many people

[odd relic]

Yeah but not a lot of people take that opportunity

they would rather stick to something they know

[signal zenith]

some people can't because of the status they are in the world or because they are shunned

[haughty pebble]

i’m shunned for being too hot and awesome so i get it

[odd relic]

Real!

[silk eagle]

Status, in some cases yes. Shunned?

[signal zenith]

certain public school districts concentrated in bigger cities perform far better than rural public school districts. Primarily due to possibly small things such as even having the teachers for AP classes and infrastructure

[signal zenith]

ye

[odd relic]

+budget

[signal zenith]

nf

[odd relic]

?

[haughty pebble]

also parents
i lot of people don’t even know how much they can learn online

[silk eagle]

Having attended both a large highly-funded urban school and a small, poor rural school, the rural people do it to themselves and they deserve their outcomes. Students who weren't spitting in the teachers' faces on a daily basis did perfectly fine.

[signal zenith]

Not necessarily

[haughty pebble]

so much of that is parents tho

[signal zenith]

If you are a kid you don't get to choose where you are born

[odd relic]

I think it is parents and also people/kids prefer the easy route

[silk eagle]

At a certain point people have to stand up and take responsibility for their actions.

But yes, parents can be a terrible influence.

[haughty pebble]

they don’t know how

[signal zenith]

I guess but like I said

[haughty pebble]

they were never taught

[signal zenith]

that's where motivation has to be so far

like you can be average IQ but have feeder systems at a young age to help you succeed

and you see this with wealthy families especially

[silk eagle]

what is a feeder system

[signal zenith]

they aren't running cognitive tests to see if their kid will do great later on in life

just what asian families do

start 2 instruments at a young age, multple languages, chess

wealthy asian families*

[odd relic]

U dont really need that to "do great"

imo

[ashen heart]

[signal zenith]

like in india there are kids that are 7 that are genius programmers

[silk eagle]

In India there are a lot of people

It's a sixth of the planet

[signal zenith]

yea but if u adjust for capita

it's pretty impressive

what some asian countries do

[silk eagle]

Back that up, I don't believe it

not Indian Americans

India

[haughty pebble]

per capita im the best in the world at everything

[silk eagle]

India is a squalid place with pockets of wealth

[signal zenith]

I meant to say more developed parts, you got a point. There would be too many outliers all over the place

Parts of Kerala and the more developed portions of China

The point tho is they just straight up set the systems and don't really be thinking abt how smart their kid actually is

and then most of the times the kid does do pretty good

[silk eagle]

Most of the time the kids in Korean cram schools do pretty good, doesn't mean the conditions aren't miserable.

[haughty pebble]

well yeah whether the kid is happy is a different story lol

[silk eagle]

It's not just happiness

[signal zenith]

yea

kids naturally aren't meant for it

but the fact that they can shows something

is it ethical and correct? really comes down to ur beliefs

i dont think so

it goes to show tho that those kids have a completely different up bringing and approach to education than someone that might grow up on a farm and could possibly be a genius but never sees the need to apply it

[silk eagle]

When trying to stretch five rubber bands to a particular tension, the right thing to do is not stretch them all to the maximum length of the most inelastic one.

Our expectations can be far higher than they are in say America, but people aren't the same.

[odd relic]

I think people expect too much and overwork themselves

Also unreal expectations

[cyan grove]

parents overwork their children*

[odd relic]

it could be either

yeah

[cyan grove]

i dont think children naturally pressure themselves without outside influence

and they carry that well into adulthood

[signal zenith]

Parents really don't know that but what we end up seeing is a lot of average IQ people doing very well at top fields in academia, the geniuses are obviously at the top but yeah. Then again like Zangi said, it's just parents over working their children but there is truth that there isn't a hard stop at least based on IQ

[odd relic]

What i mean is more like people have a false narrative of what it means to be successful

[haughty pebble]

everyone is silly
just have fun !

[silk eagle]

Rarely in the US, but certainly in wealthy Asian countries.

[odd relic]

I wouldnt say its rare

[cyan grove]

yeah exactly. schools and society in general all around the world tells children to go to school then on to college/uni to gather huge amounts of debt (most of the time).

financial independence should be the only goal that parents should push from a monetary perspective

[signal zenith]

For those asian countries, those kids are the big break for those families

So it's a standard

different in western countries fs

[silk eagle]

I repeatedly said there is no discrete disability preventing people from doing things, but it does influence the likelihood of success. And probability is worth taking into consideration.

[cyan grove]

and passions children have should be nurtured, yet the schooling system actively punishes creativity and “weird” interests that dont align with what they believe to be “correct”

[silk eagle]

Then it is as I said and practical realities should be taken into consideration, and we can't actually do anything we set our minds to, the genesis of the conversation that everyone continues to agree with my point on, despite wanting to argue about it for some reason.

[signal zenith]

I was just adding that IQ is always over exaggerated in these

[haughty pebble]

arguing is fun it’s y i’m here

[cyan grove]

the US is one of the largest culprits of this. the amount of pressure placed on children about uni/college in the US is insane

[silk eagle]

No it's not.

[odd relic]

Cuz of how expensive shit is

[signal zenith]

It's just subjective based on school

[odd relic]

its common in most top universities

[silk eagle]

It's seen as standard especially among professionals, but there is no overarching pressure.

[silk eagle]

Selection bias.

[haughty pebble]

ground plaza hurts my arm

[silk eagle]

A third of a percent of college students attend Ivy Leagues. Of course the people that go there are going to be neurotic and pushed.

[haughty pebble]

vertussy did u keep up the kovaaks grind

[odd relic]

I diagree i mean im not in ivy league and I see kids getting pressured by parents all the time

integral where are u from If I can ask

[odd relic]

Naur

i downloaded it recently on my new laptop but I havent played

[silk eagle]

By "pressured" you mean "you should go to college so you can get a professional salary and a desk job".

[odd relic]

No i mean like get As or the belt lol

[queen onyx]

The statement Integral isn't exclusive to Ivy League attendees

[haughty pebble]

isn’t college like hard to afford in the us

[odd relic]

yes, very

[queen onyx]

Rather, it says that those kids are even more likely to be pressured compared to those that do not attend Ivy League universities

Extremely

[odd relic]

so its like the parents are dropping 50k a year, so they want the kids to do well

[haughty pebble]

which most can’t i’d assume

[odd relic]

yeah

so they take loans

[silk eagle]

If outcomes are so tied to motivation and parenting, then we should not see an America where nearly half can't read to sixth-grade standards and a fifth are functionally illiterate.

Your perspective, again, like cuff's, is warped by selection bias.

[queen onyx]

what

wdym integral?

[odd relic]

idk if I believe those stats but I havent read on it

[silk eagle]

No, it's extremely easy to afford.

[odd relic]

??????

no its not 💀

integral do u live in the US

[queen onyx]

This is just entirely false though?

what.

[signal zenith]

It’s hard to afford already in the USA with a gdp per capita of $80k

Also household incomes not just capita

[silk eagle]

Yet, according to a recent study from the Department of Education, roughly half of U.S. adults, aged 16 to 74 years old — 54% or 130 million people — lack literacy proficiency.
From Assessing the Economic Gains of
Eradicating Illiteracy Nationally and Regionally
in the United States

[odd relic]

what defines literacy proficiency

[signal zenith]

How many of those U.S adults have went into upper education?

[white surge]

Yall

[odd relic]

he said 6th grade

[signal zenith]

Cuz ik the point u said earlier was the motivation for American students in university

[white surge]

Omg Asokra

My goat

[odd relic]

Yall

[silk eagle]

Maybe.

[odd relic]

Then u should know that college in the US is extraordinarily expensive

[signal zenith]

He mentioned something about motivation not being a focus of students who go to school in USA

[signal zenith]

Yo I’m going to sleep, cover my night shift in kb

[queen onyx]

got u

[odd relic]

no lilli

give willy mod

[white surge]

Uhhhhh

I like this play

[odd relic]

yeah I mean thats somewhat true

[white surge]

(Idk how to mod)

[odd relic]

"I spent a day as a KB mod"

[scenic sluice]

Hello helloo

[odd relic]

hi pebbles

[white surge]

🤩

Who’s watching that

[odd relic]

me

[pseudo girder]

hi pebbles

[odd relic]

and all my homies

[scenic sluice]

Omg hii Verty

Hi Emily hru both doing ?

[odd relic]

it is 3am

[pseudo girder]

I should be asleep

[odd relic]

🙏

[white surge]

Omg it’s pebbles

[scenic sluice]

Huhhh

[pseudo girder]

wbu

[silk eagle]

I was being somewhat sarcastic, but it is quite easy to take on the debt to do so. Would you consider someone who gets a mortgage on a three million dollar house to be "unable to afford it" because they can't pay up front? Can a business who runs operating budget on a business loan "not afford" to buy their materials?

[scenic sluice]

Did you move, Verty ?

[scenic sluice]

I should be too, very tired

[scenic sluice]

Hihi

[odd relic]

im in the UK for a semester :D

[queen onyx]

Having to take on debt inherently means you cannot afford it.

[scenic sluice]

Ohhhhh

If you told me before and I forgot, soz 😭

[odd relic]

yeah im British now it sucks

[queen onyx]

or

I should rephrase

[odd relic]

I dont remember

[scenic sluice]

British kinda sounds hot icl

[odd relic]

its cold, rainy, and dark

also im in Ireland

*northern ireland

[queen onyx]

If you are required to take on debt in order to be able to purchase something, it isn't affordable to you imho

[pseudo girder]

its pleasant to hear proper english when you are surrounded by germans

[scenic sluice]

I lived in the US for years and I would prefer people speaking British accent...

[queen onyx]

Housing prices are not affordable either at the moment

[odd relic]

I love the irish accents here

[oak blade]

Especially in Canada

It's very bad over here

[scenic sluice]

Oof, cold here too

[queen onyx]

fuckin canadian housing market.

[silk eagle]

Yeah I disagree, few people can afford houses up-front. Most people buy houses that exceed their liquid cash.

[queen onyx]

hate this fuckass okace

[odd relic]

One of my profs has a proper english accent

[odd relic]

Where are u again?

[scenic sluice]

German accent too dominant fr 😭

[scenic sluice]

Germany currently

[pseudo girder]

mine isnt too bad luckily

[odd relic]

Nice nice

Visit emily

[queen onyx]

Fair, however by definition affordable means reasonably priced

[scenic sluice]

One day I should

[queen onyx]

Houses are not remotely reasonably priced

[pseudo girder]

she lives on the other side of the country I think

[odd relic]

Come with us to the UK

[scenic sluice]

I need to sleep now 😭 almost 4 am

[odd relic]

emilys gonna visit me

[scenic sluice]

Ooohh count me in

[pseudo girder]

same 😭

[queen onyx]

University tuitions are ABSOLUTELY not reasonably priced in the U.S.

[scenic sluice]

Good nighttt !! Imma sleep

[odd relic]

gn!

[pseudo girder]

gngn

[haughty pebble]

australia too

[odd relic]

hi cuff how's the move in

[haughty pebble]

was at the new place this morning measuring stuff and making sure my car can get up up the drive way hahaha
legal ownership transfer isn’t until the 16th so actual move a few days after that

[odd relic]

Damn good luck

Ill come over to help yall move in

u need a big strong man

so ill just be there for moral support and to watch the movers do it

[haughty pebble]

hahaha

my dad and brother will help
and we’ll hire movers

[silk eagle]

Affordable wasn't the word used. What was said was something to the effect of it not being easy to afford college in the US. Afford means "to be able to pay for", not "reasonable." I think all normal education should be freely accessible, past elementary taught by communications professionals scripted by education professionals, with teachers relegated to tutoring efforts and overseeing practicals.

[odd relic]

So socialism

[silk eagle]

Incredibly inefficient to have thousands of professors who don't want to be there teaching kids who can barely understand them.

[queen onyx]

Affordable literally means that you are able to afford it

[silk eagle]

If that's what you want to call it 🤷‍♂️

[queen onyx]

it doesn't matter that I used affordable versus afford when one is the root word of the other 😭

[haughty pebble]

i can afford a maccas soft serve

[odd relic]

Who's gonna pay for the freely accessible education

[silk eagle]

"To be able to pay for" was quoted from Merriam Webster, but it's a silly argument.

[odd relic]

I can technically afford a used supra should i spend all my savings on one

[haughty pebble]

yoooo get one
it’s worth
it’s so fun

[odd relic]

on it

[queen onyx]

I think all normal education should be freely accessible, past elementary taught by communications professionals scripted by education professionals, with teachers relegated to tutoring efforts and overseeing practicals.

and just what, precisely, is gonna happen if a student asks said communications professional who knows fuck all about the topic during a lecture if it isn't planned/

[odd relic]

do they come in purple?

[haughty pebble]

not factory but wrap it

i’m gonna wrap mine pink one day

[odd relic]

send pics!!!

[silk eagle]

The taxpayer pays for around half of public universities' revenue and gives a surprising amount to private universities as well.

We're talking over a hundred billion a year.

[queen onyx]

In what form?

[silk eagle]

That's not even counting subsidization for tuition.

[queen onyx]

Governmental grants?

[silk eagle]

The lectures should be recorded and freely distributed, and that's what they can ask teachers for, on their own time.

[queen onyx]

[odd relic]

• public universities get funding from the government, yeah thats why they are called public but also charge tuition because not every public university has the same programs
• private universities rely mostly on tuition and endowments not governmental grants

[silk eagle]

Why build billions of dollars in educational facilities when they are used for lecturing?

Unnecessary.

[odd relic]

Because learning in person is considerably better than learning from a screen

[silk eagle]

My point is that we pay more than enough to have a publicly available course in every conceivable subject.

[odd relic]

The concepts can already be found on youtube, what cannot be found on youtube are labs and practical, hands on learning.

[silk eagle]

But no, we pay billions upon billions to these semiprivate institutions to waste money, force researchers to do things they don't care about, etc.

Let researchers research and let professional communicators communicate.

[odd relic]

Along with in person communication and work habit skills

[odd relic]

Graduate students get federal grants to work on projects in public universities for the government and the betterment of the scientific community of the US

[silk eagle]

Yes, labs should be done in person. Obviously. Labs and examinations. The lecture hall is unnecessary, however.

[queen onyx]

you'd still need to build infrastructure for those labs?

and examinations

tho

[odd relic]

Which have already been gutted by the current administration

[modern rain]

Glorious morning @cunning notch please morning shower playlist

[silk eagle]

I never denied this. I just don't think it's unreasonable to have top educators collaborate on well-produced publicly-available video lecture courses.

[modern rain]

Speed please I need this

[silk eagle]

Why do you think it's such an insane spending item?

Moreover, there should be affordable examinations where you can test your knowledge and get credit for these courses that you can do online.

[odd relic]

Okay so in end lets look at it from a financial standpoint:

You want to cut spending on lecture professors, lecture halls, and remove government grants for research and instead have the government provide free online lectures, free labs facilities and free research opportunities... all while not increasing taxes?

[odd relic]

if its all online you could just use ai

[silk eagle]

College is expensive now because they're semi-for-profit institutions gouging the taxpayer and the students, and colleges are luxury institutions (but everyone wants to go).

[modern rain]

Cut spending on lecture professors for real bro my professors had grudge on me

lets make them all suffer

[oak blade]

lol

[silk eagle]

It's not the lecture professors per say. Most of them are researchers. Let them research. Don't make people that can't communicate well teach classes.

Let the best of the best do it.

[modern rain]

Are you aware thats too logical to ever happen?

[odd relic]

People go to college for the opportunities, connections, and certifications to get into corporate or other areas

[modern rain]

i had good professors but there were 2 bad ones. every apple tree has a rotten apple afterall

[odd relic]

All my professors are good

and do research

[silk eagle]

Almost all university homework is already online (perhaps barring postgrad). I'm suggesting in-person exams and practicals though.

[modern rain]

@unborn reef if ur awake please give me a morning shower playlist

like 5 songs or smth or 6 idk

ill fill the rest of the gap myself

[haughty pebble]

i dont think i met any of my professors lol

[odd relic]

Okay so just the lectures are online?

[silk eagle]

Most people go to college to get a piece of paper. Top colleges, a good deal for connections. I'm just suggesting that the accreditation should be priced to students by the opportunity cost of studying, some fees for labs, and some fees for taking the exam.

[silk eagle]

Yes, like OCW. That should be standard in every subject, at least for undergraduate classes.

[modern rain]

i went to uni so I could socialize and flex on studying what i studied and then dropout

then i figured out what i studied is absolute trash

[silk eagle]

We already spend more than enough money to produce this content and make the testing centers a reality.

[haughty pebble]

based

[odd relic]

Im pretty sure in person lectures and classes are significantly more beneficial for learning than online

[silk eagle]

What percentage of the outcome differences is a result of selection bias?

[odd relic]

a student is more likely to skip their online class than their in person responsibility

[haughty pebble]

i skipped both

[odd relic]

Idfk

[modern rain]

I hated online classes

[odd relic]

just speaking from experience

and others' experience

[silk eagle]

There is no "skipping" OCW. There is only doing it, or not doing it.

[modern rain]

yet again i skipped most my lessons it is a miracle i passed the finals

fuck them lectures

[odd relic]

if all the lectures are online im sure even more people will not finish and drop out

there is 0 commitment

[modern rain]

factual

[odd relic]

0 financial commitment

[silk eagle]

Wrong

[odd relic]

graduation rates will plummet

[odd relic]

u said they were free?

[haughty pebble]

its free but 1 million dollars for every class u miss

[modern rain]

Wow my music provider friends are not online I guess this is what it is like to be an adult

[silk eagle]

Sitting around studying is a financial commitment.

[wheat garden]

I hate online classes

[silk eagle]

Opportunity costs.

[wheat garden]

I’m less committed

[modern rain]

NAV FUCK OFFF

[queen onyx]

Opportunity cost is not a financial cost

[wheat garden]

Secret barely knows what wifi is

[rocky ermine]

my linear algebra class was online on monday and i had no clue what happened even tho i wason the zoom the entire time lolol

[queen onyx]

It's a social cost

nt

[haughty pebble]

go to my everything playlist and just hit shuffle

[silk eagle]

There are no class slots in OCW. It's just consume the material, or don't. If you don't, you will probably not do well. If you don't do well, try again.

[oak blade]

What?

It's not a financial commitment lol

[modern rain]

Are you making fun of my state where I am dependent on my friend's router until I get my own one?

fair play Nav

[odd relic]

what...

[modern rain]

gg

[silk eagle]

Opportunity cost of going to a university is usually more than the financial cost.

[rocky ermine]

depends if youre missing out on hours at work or something like that

[odd relic]

Thats not a financial cost

[silk eagle]

Even if it was free, there is still a major opportunity cost.

[queen onyx]

It is a social cost, not a financial one

[odd relic]

Like lilli said

[queen onyx]

There can be financial outcomes tied to it, but opportunity cost isn't a financial cost itself

[modern rain]

ok unironically gona try

[silk eagle]

I know, which is why I distinguished the two.

[queen onyx]

uh

[queen onyx]

?

[odd relic]

you cannot say that studying "costs" the money not gained from working instead because you sacrifice short term opportunity costs like ur saying to get a better return long term

[wheat garden]

😭 😭 😭

[modern rain]

ill make u eat ur own words when I get my own router this week

[wheat garden]

Oh boy I can’t wait for you to show me ur 50/10 speeds

[odd relic]

u choose not to work for 4 years and pay for an education in order to make back that lost money using the degree earned from it

[modern rain]

wtf disrespect

Another excuse for me to commit war crimes i guess

[haughty pebble]

u can commit war crimes on me if u would like

[wheat garden]

❓

[haughty pebble]

what

[real pivot]

chat you know what they call me

[wheat garden]

Maybe killing cuff isn’t a bad idea

[haughty pebble]

cant a girl have desires navid?

[real pivot]

they call me walk em down vindicta

[modern rain]

Garlock the Destroyer

[wheat garden]

I’ve been AWOOOO’ing all day playing silver

Life is great

[modern rain]

Mina no diffs btw

[wheat garden]

Mina lucky i can’t reach her

[pure zodiac]

really stupid question. but is it possible to level up without putting stats on your account besides playtime?

[real pivot]

?

[oak blade]

I mean if you look at it that way I guess, theres a difference between that and paying money to take a course tho

[wheat garden]

Silver don’t got a lot of range

[modern rain]

Ok Nav now quit this

[wheat garden]

No

[modern rain]

You are pissing me off

[pure zodiac]

fuck

welp

[modern rain]

Do not ever say that about Mina again.

[oak blade]

Theres pressure for you to get the credits and pass

[wheat garden]

Shut up secret

[pure zodiac]

thats unfortunate

[wheat garden]

Don’t make me turn off ur VPN

[oak blade]

Otherwise you're wasting money