#Enclosure Questions

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whole vortex
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So Im trying to get a list together to make this pretty girl the best home she can have for now. So far the list I have is:

-Halogen Light Bulb
-Basking lightbulb
-UVB light
-Kasa power strip
-A CHE
-Holder for CHE
(Need to know if I can use my kit dual light holder for the halogen and basking lights as well)

I was looking through the shopping list and I see that some of the stuff is gone and some isn't. Are the Arcadia more reliable than Pangea? If so should I just go for those instead?

Should I have the temperature to regulate for her CHE to like 70 degrees at nighttime as well?

lilac scarab
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Have I got the !shopinglist for you!

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Heckling bot !shoppinglist

jade bisonBOT
whole vortex
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Been there and have been looking thats where most of the information from this is coming from.

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The arcadia link doesnt work for heating

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and Im still trying to figure out if I can put the bulbs inside of the dual lamp I got with the kit for the tank

lilac scarab
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That’s great that you’re looking there! As far as nighttime temps, I’m not a trusted adviser but I’ve been told here it’s ok if the temp drops at night as long as it’s not below 65f

whole vortex
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I have ac and central

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I dont want to take any chances

lilac scarab
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You’ll need linear uvb if you mean that.

whole vortex
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so If i can regulate it a safe temp that would be fine

lilac scarab
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The halogen is the basking if I remember correctly

whole vortex
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these and a halogen is what i was looking into getting

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is that a no go?

lilac scarab
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Confused as to why there are both on there when they are interchangeable to my knowledge

whole vortex
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Wish I could tell you

lilac scarab
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Best to wait for a TA then 🙂

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The ta’s can also tell you what kind of UVB you need depending on the mesh on the enclosure. Sending a pic of it here will help them!

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Different mesh lets in different amounts of UVB so the lights are made to accommodate that

whole vortex
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Why im running to get her proper heating and lighting

lilac scarab
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Ah, did someone buy that for you or did you get it not knowing what the proper stuff was?

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No shame either way. We all start somewhere!

whole vortex
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but im rectifying it

lilac scarab
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Baby steps! You got a new tank on the way too?

whole vortex
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After quaratine

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Im going to get her a 50 gal or so and get it bioactive

lilac scarab
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Budget reasons? Cuz you can keep a larger tank in Quarantine mode just as easy as bio active.

Also be wary of gallons, more gallons doesn’t necessarily mean more floor space.

whole vortex
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Not realy budget reasons, I got the tank I might as well use it plus it gives me some time to decide whether I want to build it myself or get a breeder near me to build one for me

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a bio active one that is

lilac scarab
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Yoinked this from peachy
“Thriving minimum is 36x18x18 inches / 90x45x45 cm / 648 sq inches of floorspace”

If that helps!

I ask cuz quarantine is several months and that’s a long time in a smaller container

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After some refreshing i do see a 20 can be used for temp housing.

whole vortex
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Oh, I also need holders for the heaters

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Whether that is the Halogen, Basking light, and a CHE or not

lilac scarab
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The kit came with a basking/halogen though so you’ll be ok there

whole vortex
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no

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it came with a red light for nocturnal

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and a white light

lilac scarab
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Can you send pics of the boxes they were in?

whole vortex
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the box is on the link

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i dont have it anymore

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i threw it away

lilac scarab
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That’s ok, looks like it says heat lamp?

whole vortex
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It gave off like 0 heat

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when i did do a heat test wth it

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the hot side dropped to 83

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so i turned back on the red light

lilac scarab
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The white one is a coil uvb

whole vortex
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and the red one hurts their eyes and is not good for them period

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from what i know

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unless i was just lied to

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The white one might be good for now but i def need a bask

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and I dont have that exact white one

lilac scarab
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The ineffective form of uvb is the coil.

I haven’t heard that the red hurts their eyes? Just that it doesn’t work as night heat cuz they can still see red

whole vortex
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it looks similar

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but its a bulb

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nearly the same shape as

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the nocturnal

lilac scarab
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It’s uvb but not that one you need

whole vortex
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Gotcha gotcha

lilac scarab
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The red should work till you can get one of the bulbs off the list

whole vortex
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They will be done tmr

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thats why Im trying to get the list together now

lilac scarab
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Ah, I’ll tell you then, the ta’s be sleeping for the next while. They tend to be up in like six ish hours? I’m a night owl so I lurk in the wee hours

whole vortex
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Thats understandable

lilac scarab
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End up answering a few questions while doing my best to be clear that I ain’t the authority on these things

whole vortex
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Hopefully they can read this and then see and give their own feedback

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because it would be greatly appreciated

lilac scarab
whole vortex
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and thank you for ur time as well

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Its not the most fun answering new peoples questions especially when they just throw themselves into it

lilac scarab
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You are trying and that’s what matters

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You got her on paper towels now?

whole vortex
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I have it double layered

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I have news paper under the paper towels

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to act as a softener

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So why is the exoterra such a lower price than the Herpstat

lilac scarab
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If I knew I’d win big at the stock market 🤣

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Is one a dimming thermostat?

whole vortex
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They both are

lilac scarab
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Huh… then I refer to my stock market comment

whole vortex
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Its like

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a 40 dollar difference for the herpstat 1

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and a 120 difference to herpstat 2

fallen dagger
fallen dagger
fallen dagger
# whole vortex these and a halogen is what i was looking into getting

for heating you want an incandescent (“basking bulb”) or a halogen (arcadia, pangea, etc on the shopping list) — i personally really like the exoterra intense basking as well as the arcadia halogen. bulb choice can be tricky because it depends on your home climate!

those are your basking bulbs. you only need one. both have their pros and cons. incandescents can usually be better if you have colder ambients and wanna raise them, halogens usually have a more focused beam and can lead to cooler ambients. i recommend starting with a 75w and testing it until your temps are in a good spot. you may need to increase or decrease the wattage as needed.

if your temps drop below 65f at night then you’ll need supplemental heating. this is what a CHE or DHP is for. i personally use a CHE in the winter when my room gets cold.

both will need to be on a thermostat, so you will either need a thermostat with two outlets (like the herpstat 2) or two thermostats to regulate the heat sources. both will also need a dome, i use the flukers 8.5 inch dome on the shoppinglist.

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UVB will depend on your tank mesh as well as the distance to your basking point. so once you have your thriving minimum tank, let us know the brand or send a picture of the mesh and we can help you figure out the best uvb to use.

whole vortex
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fallen dagger
whole vortex
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What should I get for this enclosure

fallen dagger
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i would wait until youre at thriving minimum to get uvb.

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it can be hard to safely provide uvb in a 20 gal due to the height and the inability to create a gradient. instead you can supplement with calcium w/ d3 until then!

whole vortex
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My gradient is pretty good actually

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I have two thermostats and her cool end is 75 and her hot end is 93 rn

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But yeah I understand

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I have d3 supplements and regular calcium

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I was going to do every other day d3 calcium with the other being regular

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Is that okay?

fallen dagger
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jade bisonBOT
fallen dagger
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you want to refer to the “without uvb” section and then supplement accordingly to your leos age. you also want a multivitamin to supplement with.

whole vortex
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How is this looking for a starter enclosure for Luka?

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midnight burrow
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what size tank?

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double domes are not good to use btw

whole vortex
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its what i have

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for now

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and its a 20 gal