help me rebuild the tank pls, tell me anything i need to change ASAP i dont want her to die

[spiral briar]

she have to stay there for a long time..

[calm orbit]

oh?

[spiral briar]

since my relative stay at my house

like from evening to late night...

and theres so many loud fireworks

arent leos sensitive to sounds?

[calm orbit]

will it be longer than a day

[spiral briar]

no but relatives visits daily

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eww

[spiral briar]

so ill have to move her in and out of her tank every day

[spiral briar]

ugh ikr

[calm orbit]

really no chance of convincing parents to bring the current tank up? i feel like that moving will be horrible for the lil guy

[spiral briar]

my worse fear is they grab my leo

i would commit right there

[spiral briar]

they dont trust my ability to clean her in my room

[calm orbit]

like, im 100% willing to try to help convince. we still have over a week

[spiral briar]

since my room is a big pile of mess rn

my parent really dont put trust in my independence soo yeah.

but i get why they dont trust me tho

[calm orbit]

what if move the current tank temporarily to your room with all the heating etc

[tardy wolf]

1020 messages omg

[calm orbit]

the moving from and to little container seems like a really bad idea

super stressful

[spiral briar]

my parents would say things like

"you'll freeze her to death"

"you cant feed her in your room"

"she'll run away"

"its too stressful"

[calm orbit]

i think the lil container would freeze her even more

[spiral briar]

"she would see u everyday and she would be scared"

[spiral briar]

thats the thing!! 😭

[calm orbit]

i think its hard to do anything without convincing your parents. or at least trying

[spiral briar]

i cant even respond to this claim

[spiral briar]

i just tried today

she ask me to use this small one

and put it

like

the place rn

which is near the dining table

[calm orbit]

respectfully, that would make her so much more scared

[spiral briar]

also im like in my room and cant get out cuz once i get out they'll know im awake and, the consequences is crazy

[spiral briar]

YES OMG 😭

since theres so many like

sounds

[calm orbit]

im very invested now

[spiral briar]

ill find a way to convince them first

asking them to directly talk to u will literally cause them to crash out on me 😭

[calm orbit]

i hope it goes well

[spiral briar]

hope so too

and for some reason

she kept saying

"the breeder is professional! listen to him"

and bla bla bla

[calm orbit]

breeding geckos =/= professional

😔

[spiral briar]

https://www.instagram.com/mystique.creatures/?hl=en

this is the

one that provide me my gecko btw

if im not wrong..... cuz idk

i just see the logo

[calm orbit]

oh my god

is that a lemon frost

eurhgh

idk if this will help but tell them to look at the lemon frost post then tell them to google up lemon frost leos

[spiral briar]

the facebook

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lemon frosts morphs are so ethically bad they are even banned from being sold in the usa iirc

[spiral briar]

ohh

[spiral briar]

is it because its prone to a lot of disease or?

[calm orbit]

banned from morphmarket* mb

dont know the exact one but i believe they all have cancer

[spiral briar]

wait

WHAT

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they will usually have to get euthanized because their quality of life is so bad

[spiral briar]

ohh

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someone breeding and selling lemon frosts is the biggest red flag you could ever see

[spiral briar]

ohh i see

[calm orbit]

simple google search shows all of this, its very obvious and common knowledge if you know what to look for

[spiral briar]

https://www.facebook.com/people/The-Geckorisme-Lizards/100066440935310/

[spiral briar]

is this one okay?

i didnt find any professional post

but they claim to be keepers

[calm orbit]

enigmas

[spiral briar]

ohh

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theyre prone to neurological disorders :((

[spiral briar]

oh no, why tho?

https://www.facebook.com/geckonest/

how about this one?

[calm orbit]

unless its an eclipse.. let me check actually

[spiral briar]

owh okk

[calm orbit]

honestly its hard to tell you for certain if a breeder is bad or not without seeing their setup and maybe even contacting them

[spiral briar]

😭 oh dear...

[calm orbit]

there are big red flags you can look for (eg. lemon frosts) but its limited, really

lemon frosts. enigmas. and spiders(this one being a ball python morph) are the big nos

[spiral briar]

are there other signs?

[calm orbit]

many breeders that dont breed these morphs are still bad tho

racks, usually 🤔

like, the bad racks

uhhh how do i explain this

[spiral briar]

racks?

[calm orbit]

the breeders (adults) being in racks. nqa there are reasons a baby could be in a rack/bin setup

[spiral briar]

ooh

bin being the container i showed earlier?

[spiral briar]

Oh my days

arent that stressful?

[calm orbit]

yes

[spiral briar]

its even smaller than my container

[calm orbit]

too little space, too little clutter

no privacy

[spiral briar]

ohh

also i just realized

most vets near me dont take lizards...

[calm orbit]

anyways those are the big red flags i know. the rest i cant say because i dont interact with breeders much, and a lot youd figure out when actually talking with the breeder

[spiral briar]

ohh

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oh

[spiral briar]

this is just hard now 😭

they take those furry animals

do leopard geckos consider an exotic ?

[calm orbit]

yes i believe so

[spiral briar]

https://www.facebook.com/exopetvc/

[calm orbit]

birds, reptiles

[spiral briar]

is this a trust worthy vet i can consult?

for issues

[calm orbit]

i think we have a vet list actually

ummm hold on

https://members.arav.org/search/custom.asp?id=3661

[calm orbit]

i dont know much about vetting, well, vets mine was found through recs. sorry

[spiral briar]

ooh okok tyy

[spiral briar]

ohh

okay thanks for the help so far, but i have to sleep now its almost 4am..

😭

[calm orbit]

oh gosh yeah go to sleep

[spiral briar]

ill reach out to you if i need more help

tyy

[calm orbit]

yeah, definitely feel free to!

[spiral briar]

Guys how do I move aurora to a temporary bin

I need to remove the subs now (my parents don't let me do it last night)

And I can't do it if she's still in there

[warm finch]

Try placing a hand under her and picking her up that way nqa

[spiral briar]

Ohh

But what if like yesterday she refuse

I don't want to force a handling

[stiff latch]

to do things like switching sub, you may force it

[spiral briar]

Ohh alright alright tyysm!!

How thick should the paper towels be btw?

[stiff latch]

i do 2 layers for leos

[spiral briar]

Ohh ok thanks

This girl is under too much

[stiff latch]

omg the little bins

do you not have a bucket

[spiral briar]

My bucket are smaller than that

[spiral briar]

Ok substrate part is done

[stiff latch]

were you using a spoon

[spiral briar]

Yes and no

Combination of spoon and hand scooping

[stiff latch]

i am not gonna lie to you

i would've picked it up and dumped it out

[spiral briar]

I can't pick it up

It's too heavy to be picked it up and placing it back

I need my dad

[stiff latch]

fair enough

[spiral briar]

Btw do you have any recommend fake plants I can buy for the tank?

[stiff latch]

exoterra fiscus is really nice

in general you can go to crafts stores like michaels or hobby lobby and get them relatively cheap

make sure they dont leach dye and youre good

most of my plants rn are from michaels

[spiral briar]

Ooh

Tyyy

[spiral briar]

hey i kind of lost the feeding list can somebody plss send it again to me pls im trying to buy them online 🙏

so sorry for the trouble

[warm finch]

!feeders

[gentle kite]

https://i.imgur.com/UfSyX6c.png

Feeder Information

https://www.rainbowmealworms.net/
https://dubiaroaches.com/
https://www.joshsfrogs.com/live-insects-feeders.html
https://flukerfarms.com/
https://aafeeder.com/
https://www.rodentpro.com/
https://bigcheeserodents.com/
https://perfectprey.com/

[warm finch]

This?

[spiral briar]

YES

omg omg

tysm

hey i have a question, are leopard geckos picky for certain food?

since i experienced my gecko not wanting to do anything with crickets before so i want to know if theres some feeders that geckos dont like

[stiff latch]

really varies between leos. some are picky and some will eat anything. most leos tend to have preferences

one leos favourite is anothers least favourite

i know leos that want nothing but superworms but my own leo hates them and will spit them out

[spiral briar]

ohh maybe that explains why aurora eat nothing else 😭

i just realized ive been feeding it superworms

instead of mealworms

hey is this sub okay for leo?

[stiff latch]

nope

youre gonna want soil and sand

the only approved premade mixes are arcadia earthmix arid and technically joshs frogs arid bioactive ready substrate but both are extremely overpriced considering the mix you can make on your own

[spiral briar]

oh ok thanks

[spiral briar]

I really struggles with finding a soil cuz i cant find any proper soils online at all... is there any recommendation?

thats not over my budget

do this work 😵

!shoppinglist

[gentle kite]

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zW8Nq-6wF5ZAeq7j4cE7Bwa9EpXqKhIX/view?usp=sharing

[spiral briar]

!guides

[gentle kite]

Server Care Guide

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SKbLFeeE4pxPQdi4EP3-elTuvVSfAw3L/view?usp=share_link

[spiral briar]

Are these okay?

[warm finch]

Where are you located?

[spiral briar]

Malaysia

[stiff latch]

nope

for uvb youre looking for a long fixture

i believe reptisun t5 is available in your country

using the wrong uvb can cause burns or worse