vocal rune
does anyone know info about M.S. Farms Exotics on morph market? From what i've seen, they seem good. I have not messaged them just yet, Just want to see if anyone has purchased, heard from or etc. The only thing that concerns me is the prices.. they seem a little low but i dont know the value for these guys.
pastel elm
Never heard of em but i'll go take a look rn
opaque halo
i like their geckos, yes!
i follow them on instagram and theyre a very good breeder!
i also follow them on morphmarket @vocal rune :3
just so you see this
pastel elm
whew those geckos are
absolutely beautiful
and those prices are pretty normal considering the morph of the geckos imo
opaque halo
whew those geckos are<:chefskiss:910619573571702784>
if you want to see more pretty geckos check out glenview geckos :o https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/reptiles/lizards/leopard-geckos/2006931
(sorry for the gecko spam lol)
opaque halo
https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/reptiles/lizards/leopard-geckos/2364840
love that one!
pastel elm
https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/reptiles/lizards/leopard-geckos/2354916
this one though😍 😍
all of them
i loveeee looking at pretty geckos man
vocal rune
im gonna say hes a decent breeder then
carmine juniper
im gonna say hes a decent breeder then
just as a note importing geckos from the states is gonna be about 300
carmine juniper
you have to pay for the gecko and then import fees
i would look at cangeckos!
they're based out of kingston ontario
pastel elm
ohh not in the us?
carmine juniper
cute!
pastel elm
i dont, i just wanna see them all lol
well its a love/hate relationship i get it
shes pretty!
on the website it says she was sold tho
oh nvm i mistaked her for another one
vocal rune
vocal rune
oh nvm i mistaked her for another one
ah
opaque halo
her tail looks small
opaque halo
yeah but she has a healthy tail in the mm picture
vocal rune
opaque halo
hmm
carmine juniper
her tail may also look smaller cus she's a little ovular in some pics
she's similar to how apricot looks
opaque halo
ohh yeh that makes sense
vocal rune
pastel elm
is she the one you want?
vocal rune
probs the angle
opaque halo
i would get her shes pretty
carmine juniper
gotta get the setup first 
pastel elm
true
vocal rune
is she the one you want?
dunno. its hard when the reptile expo is so late in the year where you cant ship.. so you can't hold for that long
carmine juniper
you can have them shipped if you get the setup sometime soon
vocal rune
gotta get the setup first <a:Giggle:925824609037733888>
i have everything coming.. i just need a tank
vocal rune
you can have them shipped if you get the setup sometime soon
but i also wanna look at the ones at the expo
carmine juniper
proper products :o?
vocal rune
assorted rounds and flats aswell, i have some heat lamps, temp gun, tongs, water dish, moss and uvb is being picked up in person
i also have some wood an rocks
carmine juniper
make sure to get the uvb after you get a tank since it is dependant on that
vocal rune
why?]
carmine juniper
the mesh of your lid / guard / if you end up getting a 2' tall tank to internally mount all affect what bulb you're gonna use
mesh is not equal and all of them block out a different amount of uvb.
sadly not a one size fits all thing
same with heat bulbs and such
which heat bulb you get will depend on your environmental factors.
carmine juniper
well yea, but i know what tank ill be buying
do you :o?
vocal rune
do you :o?
well not like what brand but if i buy like 7% and get zoo med or wtv, its too strong for albinos
carmine juniper
well not like what brand but if i buy like 7% and get zoo med or wtv, its too st...
not true
vocal rune
i might bite the bullet and get pvc or smth tho
carmine juniper
also that gecko there you sent isn't albino
but a 7% on a zoomed tank is perfectly fine for albinos
zoomed blocks 35% uvb like exoterra does
vocal rune
carmine juniper
albinos do not need less uvi than non albinos.
she's not albino
she's het albino meaning she's not
carmine juniper
even if she was 7% would be fine for her in most cases
vocal rune
alr
carmine juniper
the only difference between care for albinos is that they require more coverage
otherwise lighting and everything is the same
opaque halo
actually peachy while ur here, with quiche being so light sensitive is 7% still okay for him with proper coverage
carmine juniper
carmine juniper
actually peachy while ur here, with quiche being so light sensitive is 7% still ...
yes
opaque halo
okay good to know tyyy
carmine juniper
okay good to know tyyy
the brightness is not going to change depending on your % . the only thing that changes is the uvi output if you go down to a 2.5% and it's only slightly weaker than a 7% on 35% mesh
so it wouldn't really make sense to change with his tank
opaque halo
ohhh
vocal rune
why dont they make taller enclosures, like, if im going pvc, itd be nice to have a 3x1.5x2ft
none of the pvc ive looked at does
opaque halo
4x2x2 is easier imo
vocal rune
i would love a 4x2x2
carmine juniper
is it depth that's restricting?
vocal rune
i will when i am finacially stable for a 1k purchase for just a tank lmao
carmine juniper
or is it just a money situation
vocal rune
is it depth that's restricting?
length and depth. my dresser is 36x19
(it can withstand weight, its solid wood)
vocal rune
or is it just a money situation
nah not really
carmine juniper
ahh
vocal rune
i have dogs so i do not want the tank on the ground
if i had no dogs id probably get a 4x2x2
i might be stuck with a stupid thrive tank for second hand gawd damn
carmine juniper
i mean they work
vocal rune
yea but doesnt the mesh block a crap ton of stuff
carmine juniper
60% uvb but you can just use a 5% on that tank
vocal rune
inside the tank?
carmine juniper
!uvichart
dense grottoBOT
carmine juniper
no on top
you can still use a 7% too on it technically
if you get things to about 16% away from the bulb which wouldn't be too hard. just gotta stack stuff which should be done anyways for clutter and climbing enrichment
a 7% will do just fine
vocal rune
is the 5 "Stronger"?
vocal rune
i always thought the 7 was
carmine juniper
nope
output % doesn't mean anything in terms of strongness between those two
HO and SO do
vocal rune
northern geckos doesnt have it
carmine juniper
i'm not sure if they carry the fixture
carmine juniper
7% is the most commonly used bulb / fixture
vocal rune
its crazy what people charge for second hand tanks
carmine juniper
i charggeeddd 150 for my exoterras
vocal rune
thats great
here theyre charging like 200-250
like atp its retail price
or the good deals are far from me
whats better, exo or zoo? ive heard exos mesh doesnt hold up well
carmine juniper
i've only ever had exoterra tanks and i've never had an issue with their mesh falling in or anything
and i've set stacks of slate and wood on top of them for years
but we have plenty of people here with zoomed tanks
both are fine quality
carmine juniper
i've thought about testing that tank. i just really hate sliding doors
and i don't know the mesh blockage on it
vocal rune
so much cheaper on their website
vocal rune
178...
what the fack
it is quite literally cheaper on amazon
they say free standard shipping on orders over $300
where is the free shipping
carmine juniper
carmine juniper
I wonder if it’s only free for American
Since they’re not a Canadian company they have to import
vocal rune
i wish i have over 3.5k followers on my tiktok lol
then i could join the affiliates
vocal rune
These are the 4 ive been really looking at, ive contacted the first one and the last 2 (the same gecko) and theyre both fine with handling and good eaters and shedders. The first one has a regen tail at the end
carmine juniper
These are the 4 ive been really looking at, ive contacted the first one and the ...
huff's is american and will need importing
vocal rune
huff's is american and will need importing
yea
carmine juniper
you're okay with the 300 import fee on top of the animal?
vocal rune
dunno yet
carmine juniper
who are the other two from
vocal rune
i messaged CAN geckos and they just looked at my message
carmine juniper
yeee it normally takes breeders a day or so
vocal rune
who are the other two from
first one is Hypnotic Geckos and the last one is Dragon Heart Exotics
vocal rune
yeee it normally takes breeders a day or so
even after they look at it?
carmine juniper
they got lives too 😮
but if they just looked at it they'll probably respond soon
vocal rune
well.. yea but theyve looked at it 2 hrs ago
carmine juniper
i have dragon heart blocked . probably due to enigma breeding
i think i blocked her well over a year ago tho
vocal rune
they dont have any enigmas rn from what i saw
carmine juniper
yeee i still block people and keep them blocked if they breed / bred enigmas
vocal rune
the one im looking at is pet only tho
carmine juniper
just shows me they don't really have good ethics if they continue do it
i haven't looked at her social media in a long while though so i'm not sure if she's stopped
i've seen Hypnotic Gecko and i like their stuff
huff's showed his ass in an aft fb group so my opinions of him have changed heavily
vocal rune
just shows me they don't really have good ethics if they continue do it
i get ur point but now they dont breed them, they answered all my questions
carmine juniper
oh that's good if she's stopped! like i said i haven't looked at her stuff since i blocked her
vocal rune
im leaning towards hypnotic
carmine juniper
oh <:catwat:480578431390711813>
yeh he uh. said actual weather and regional data where afts come from is false and dangerous
vocal rune
vocal rune
yeh he uh. said actual weather and regional data where afts come from is false a...
oh.. sucks cause their geckos are gorg
carmine juniper
that little black night is really cute...
vocal rune
yea
carmine juniper
i'm not a fan of the solid black nights so when i see a chocolately one 
vocal rune
real
im going to wait to see if CAN geckos will respond, if they dont by like thursday, then idk
vocal rune
i just found out theyre at the ottawa expo. Im hoping the gecko im looking at wasnt sold there
