#lighting and heat

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prisma citrus
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I’ve used a heat mat for a very long time but want to switch to overhead heating. My question is when you turn the light off at night does it still provide heat? Also wondering if there’s anything else I need to get and if the wattage is good to you guys?

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Considering it’s a daylight basking light, when turned off at night I’d assume the heat source would turn off too?

narrow marlin
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Yes the heat turns off. You do not need heat at night as long as the tank doesn't drop below 18⁰C you'll want 12 hours on and 12 hours off NQA

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I'd suggest getting a dome instead of the bracket holder? I'm not sure what that is. Unless you have PVC enclosure

prisma citrus
prisma citrus
narrow marlin
narrow marlin
median star
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NQA Any heat sources would still need to be controlled via a thermostat though for safety ideally. NQA

CHEs used for ambient temp increase doesn't need dimming as said above, so a cheap on/off would do fine. As also said above, if you keep track of the tank temperature and it doesn't drop below 18 C all these extra steps would be unnecessary.

narrow marlin
prisma citrus
median star
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For?

narrow marlin
prisma citrus
median star
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NQA Are you trying to say 30C at night or day? Even so, heat mats don't do much when paired with PVC and wooden enclosures since... They get insulated. Putting them inside with the substrate is also not the best idea since it doesn't push the heat up enough, and the Leo could burrow and touch that really hot source. NQA

prisma citrus
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But this is why I want to move to overhead heating im just confused on where to start

median star
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Well, you got the right parts in the cart picture. Do you know if that thermostat is a dimmer kind or on/off type?

trim rain
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not sure if you can even dim a heat mat so it would be on/off?

prisma citrus
trim rain
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on/off then

prisma citrus
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But it’s never went over the heat I have set it at

prisma citrus
median star
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NQA Alrighty! I've mentioned to try and have all heat sources off at night to see if the ambient temperature drops below 18C, because if it stays above 18C, you would not need to worry about providing heat at night times. In their natural habitat, night time temperature drops are normal, the only heat source would be the leftover heat absorbed by surfaces like rocks.

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Since the sun, which the light bulb is emulating is gone.

prisma citrus
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So if I turn it off tonight and I wake up and it’s at 18c it’s fine

median star
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NQA Well, ideally you'd try to track the lowest dip in temperature. Wake up before the heat/light sources turn on, and see what temps it is sitting at.NQA

prisma citrus
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It says online you need 2 heat sourced

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So I’m guessing this information is false

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median star
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Does your room/house run with a central heating? Looking at the settings would help see rough temp of the room...

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Have you read our guide? It's a great summary of updated husbandry based on scientific research.

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!guide

gentle houndBOT
median star
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All my responses are based on things on that document.

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Night time heat is not needed based on the guide, ONLY if the temperature does not drop below 18C or 65F.

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Then you'd need to supplement a heat source some way or another.

trim rain
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my room drops to 50F at night during the winter. so during the winter i use a CHE on an on/off thermostat

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hang on

median star
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Good ol' substrate days.

prisma citrus
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The problem is I have a wooden enclosure so I can’t do that

trim rain
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hmm... is it possible to install 2 light brackets? the concept is the same

prisma citrus
median star
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Damn, ok, perhaps you'd need night time heating then in that case. You'll have to get two fixtures, for the light(daytime) and DHP/CHE(night), then another thermostat to control the additional heat source.NQA

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My tip is, get a dimming thermostat to use with your light bulb. This will remove the annoying on/off when temps are right and it's throttling. You might not notice this before because you used heat mats, but if you have a light source, you'll see that power turns on/off like flicking a switch.

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The dimming thermostat will instead dim the bulb to a suitable level to hold ideal temps. Your old thermostat(possibly on/off type) can be used for a CHE to control how hot it'll get during the night.

prisma citrus
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But a daylight bulb turns the heat off when u turn the light off

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So I need to scrap that

median star
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Why?

prisma citrus
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Because I can’t leave the bulb light on all night can I

median star
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That's why you'll have separate non-light emitting heat sources at night time, via Deep Heat Projectors(DHP) or Ceramic Heat Emitters(CHE)

prisma citrus
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I’m really not that fully educated on this

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And my dad doesn’t seem to believe overhead heating is necessary

median star
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Have him read the server !guide and convince him with husbandry based on scientific research to provide the best for the gecko.

gentle houndBOT
prisma citrus
median star
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Uh, you could... But you can't do that while away. Hence why you'd need two lamp holders. One that stays on during the day with the bulb, and turns off at night. One that stays off during the day, and powers on during the night, with a no light heat source.

prisma citrus
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Sounds fairly expensive

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Unless I just opted to using the heat matt at night?

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And when I’m away

trim rain
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yeah

nqa your other option is a DHP. no light, produces the good IR wavelengths that heat mats do not produce. you can use it during the day and at night and it only requires one bracket bc its one bulb. its spotty and not as good as incandescent bulbs but its far better than a heatmat still

prisma citrus
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The thing is I have no source of income but I do have some amount of money right now. So I have to be careful how I use it if I want to actually get this and 2 bulbs seems more expensive then using the heat mat only at night