#Leo isint eating

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dawn charm
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My lil gecko is about 2 almost 3 years old her tank is 80cm x 50 cm the heat is from 27celcius to 31 celcius, any ideas what might be the cause?

proud plank
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How long has it been??

dawn charm
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about a week almost 2 weeks

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wait lemme calculate

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exactly a week

proud plank
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How often are you feeding her?

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Also I wouldn’t worry about it if it’s just a week, she could be either shedding,brumating, or just not feeling it since as geckos age their metabolism can slow a bit NQA NQA

dawn charm
dawn charm
proud plank
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is she pooping still??

dawn charm
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when she last took a kaka?

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Like the same day or the day later after eating

proud plank
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yeah that makes sense, idk I’d probably just give her some time as a week is kinda normal? if you want to try you can try and tong feed her if you’re not already doing that but that’s what I’d doNQA

dawn charm
timid shuttle
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tongs are basically long tweezers if you're confused on what they are ^

dawn charm
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She is ignoring the food

proud plank
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Maybe just let her have a break if she’s not interestedNQA

dawn charm
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still not eating

grand hawk
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are the temperatures you mentioned your ambients? what is the basking spot temperature? and what heat source

dawn charm
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Thats for the day

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I use a heating lamp

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For the night its a heating mat

grand hawk
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thats too low for a basking spot, should be closer to 35-38c

dawn charm
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20-23 celcius

dawn charm
grand hawk
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35-38 max yeah

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if i did my celsius calculation correctly LOL 95-100f

dawn charm
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I googled it again it says up to 32° under the heat lamp

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If its any hotter than that ive tried, my gecko goes to the cooler side

grand hawk
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that is not a reliable source of information

dawn charm
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Okay

grand hawk
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too low of a basking spot can contribute to not eating but i also wouldnt be concerned unless you notice weight loss, lethargy, etc. it is starting to become breeding season

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many leos go off food during that

dawn charm
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She has been in this temperature range since i got her

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Its this time that shes just not showing intrest in food at all

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Tho i measured the floor temperature when the lamp is on, there its 30-32

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She can climb on her hide its definetly hotter there

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I dont remember exactly, i measure the floor not ontop of her cave

dawn charm
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Im just very worried

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Cuz it happened in this same time range im scared it will happen again

grand hawk
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if you mean metabolic bone disease it isn’t something they would have had, they will keep that their whole lives. leos can go months without eating during breeding/brumation season and have no issues so if issues are occurring during their strikes id look into your overall husbandry with the !guide. try multiple healthy feeders to entice them, try boosting temps, and make sure your care is on par with the guide

safe cliffBOT
dawn charm
dawn charm
grand hawk
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you just said your leo developed mbd if they actually did which is over a very long period of time without proper supplements getting into their system. more commonly though you will see weight loss or lethargy like said above

dawn charm
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My leo developed mbd last winter, i force fed her mashed up crickets with calcium and she eventually ate one her own

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So i did manage to slow down/stop it from getting worse

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Tho now she hasnt ate for 2 weeks should i really trust her and leave her alone

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She isint skinny or lethanergetic tho

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Her tail and body seems healthy weight and she climbs, explores often

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Oh and also she has a lil calcium bowl i noticed that she has definetly licked from it often

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For how many weeks can she eat and be fine?

grand hawk
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i wouldnt force feed. if it gets to the point of them needing meal intake due to weight loss or mbd progression then you need to see a vet. if shes acting and looking fine then generally there isnt a cause for concern for a healthy leo but if your animals mbd is severe then i can see why that could cause them enough discomfort not to eat. but my advice would be to address your husbandry with the guide and a potential vet appointment if it is severe mbd to see if it is affecting their quality of life to an extreme. an animal going off food to the point of developing mbd i would assume to be a husbandry issue

dawn charm
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Hadnt eaten for a month or two

grand hawk
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that requires a vet attention

dawn charm
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That was a year ago

grand hawk
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im aware im stating it bc force feeding is not how to handle the situation especially without a vets approval and dont want that to be what occurs during this strike

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so if your animal isnt eating and getting ill from it you need a vet and to address husbandry

dawn charm
dawn charm
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Complicated situation with vets that i have but what do i do if it gets bad again and i cant visit a vet?

grand hawk
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why can you not visit a vet?

dawn charm
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I would if i could and if there was an issue that would mean that i have to

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Last time that my gecko developed mbd my mom started treating my gecko like her own

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And said that theres no need for a vet

grand hawk
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ah parental issues very common unfortunately

dawn charm
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I begged her i know it wont work

dawn charm
grand hawk
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a vet is my suggestion so they can determine quality of life and other health issues, if that is not possible then id look into potentially surrendering them to someone or an organization that can get them veterinary care

dawn charm
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My mom talked with some owner or a worker of an exotic reptile shop and we were told to force feed

dawn charm
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Mom says that its like abandoning and giving up and not something i should do

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Id really like to see a vet to even check the effects mbd has done to her

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I cant

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Im gonna try raising the temperature a lil bit more and enriching the tank

grand hawk
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im very sorry about that. you could try to raise the point that it is closer to abandonment for not giving a pet proper veterinary care? but if she isnt budging then im not sure what else to suggest. its a crappy situation to be in and im sorry about that

dawn charm
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Its not your fault

grand hawk
dawn charm
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She wont understand anything

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She barely knows leo care at all and she trusts herself in making choices for my own gecko more than she trusts me

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Also is getting a loose substrate gonna help a little?

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Ive noticed my gecko trying to dig and i feel very bad cuz the stuff underneath her is paper towel😭

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But ive heard that with poor husbandry or even not with that it can cause impaction

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And the way that i have no access to a vet would kill my gecko if that happens

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And how to identify that your gecko has swallowed some of its substrate and has impaction

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I believe my momma would let me take her to a vet if she really did have impaction

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Im sorry if i ask to much

grand hawk
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improper husbandry, especially heating, can make the risk of impaction greater yes. id take a look at the guide and if you have any husbandry related questions we can answer then a qa can get to you as soon as possible. potentially loose sub may be softer on her joints? i know a qa here has a leo with mobility issues on loose sub and does fine

dawn charm
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What things should i look into before switching to loose substrate?

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Heating yeah

grand hawk
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proper heating ideally from a regulated halogen bulb with a hotspot around 35c will be the most important id say. another thing is to assure the gecko is healthy outside of mbd concerns. other care aspects are laid out in the !guide

safe cliffBOT
dawn charm
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Thank you a lot!