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native kelp
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thats such an issue in the lower ranks

willow wren
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If you want a good kite you have no knkw where hunter is and what he's doing ALL the time

cedar crane
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Oh ok !

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For you guys Kitting is Macro or Micro ?

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Micro = skill issue
Macro = knowledge issue

willow wren
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Both

cedar crane
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50/50 ?

willow wren
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Eee

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Bro 😭😭😭

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Idk what percentage

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Just

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You need both

native kelp
willow wren
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You gotta play this game more like a human less like a robot

cedar crane
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Cause i'm not bad in "Knowledge/vision" u know

cedar crane
native kelp
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kiting is skill issue

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some people just cant kite

willow wren
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Mindgames are A HUGE part of this game

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There's no strat

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For example pallet mindgames, rescue mindgames

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You won't have a guide for this

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Sometimes you have to bait, sometime keep running

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But theres never a guarantee what hunter will do

cedar crane
native kelp
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hunters are unpredictable most of the times

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you just have to be ready

willow wren
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First two bans good, smiley is... fine I guess but if you rank up stop

cedar crane
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so its a free stun pallet

native kelp
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always ban shadow no one can kite her

cedar crane
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in my elo* for me its low elo x)

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sorry

cedar crane
willow wren
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Imagine im ex titan bro, why are my randoms first time alicorns lvl 30 😭😭😭

native kelp
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Im good tho

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randoms are randoms tho

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so many of them are bad regardless of levels

willow wren
cedar crane
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@willow wren with the prisonner i'm crouching in the start and waiting an another SV to be chase before doign anything its good to do that ? And sometimes i use my link spell to bait the hunter on 2 empty cipher accros the map in the start. What do you think about that ?

native kelp
willow wren
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He's supposed to be easy why do I suck 🥀

native kelp
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ripper is different especially after his buff

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he used to be such an easy kite

spark ridge
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I wouldn't call modern ripper easy tbh

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hes a tie hunter yeah

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but depending on ur character

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if u have no distance items he can catch up fast

willow wren
native kelp
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Ripper is not a tie hunter

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people cant save against him

spark ridge
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and if he knows the walls to chip through he will get you

native kelp
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and little can kite him

willow wren
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I play with 130-180ms on regular basis @cedar crane

spark ridge
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Thats just a skill issue tbh

cedar crane
native kelp
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probably

spark ridge
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Ripper at his peak against survs who are competent should only tie

native kelp
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but also hes buffed so

willow wren
spark ridge
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Yeah Ivy is always a valid ban

willow wren
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Is this ur 2nd account

native kelp
willow wren
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Ur scaring me

native kelp
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my main

willow wren
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Newby DNI /j

native kelp
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i sold my account 3 years ago

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😭

willow wren
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Cries in lvl 95

native kelp
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LOL

willow wren
cedar crane
native kelp
spark ridge
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Hiding in low tier isn't the worst but once you get spawn select you cant really do that

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You're better off rotating

willow wren
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Bruh

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Mods ban this guy

native kelp
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NOOOO

cedar crane
summer jackal
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Hiding w spawn select is like er

native kelp
summer jackal
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Unless the hunter is a bonbon main

spark ridge
native kelp
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if you don’t wanna kite first dont play decoder

summer jackal
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prob only faro postman mech work

spark ridge
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Or play decoder explorer and pray the hunter is blind

native kelp
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YE

native kelp
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explorer is so good

spark ridge
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Nah explorer is trash

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💀

native kelp
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no

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hes great

willow wren
spark ridge
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Unless the hunter doesnt spawn near you i dont see how u dont find him

cedar crane
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Cause they didnt understand that

willow wren
native kelp
cedar crane
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Spawn Select ?

native kelp
cedar crane
willow wren
cedar crane
native kelp
willow wren
cedar crane
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I'm a really good Fighting Player, so abuse noob player with "trash move" can't be used on high rank, is free win

spark ridge
cedar crane
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i didnt know if u know what i mean

native kelp
willow wren
native kelp
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I think all survivor characters are good

cedar crane
willow wren
native kelp
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playing decoder is a death wish if you cant kite

willow wren
# cedar crane Spawn Select ?

No, there a fixed amount of spawns. Based on their own spawn hunters can evaluate where other survs spawns. I even have maps hold up!

cedar crane
native kelp
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but theres so many smurfs in mammoth

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so i dont know how long that would work

willow wren
native kelp
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mammoth is smurf city

willow wren
native kelp
willow wren
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Hunters in Asia high tiers sometimes even bring freaking listen for my S badge Explorer main friend

spark ridge
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Ali late season is just as bad as griffin

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get out while u can

cedar crane
native kelp
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Trust i will be exiting ali soon

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i barely escaped griffin hell its soo many throwers

cedar crane
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I'll try the Gravekeeper in QP and maybe... i will drop my prisonner EB_EeveeBeg

native kelp
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grave keeper is good

cedar crane
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My Prisonner 😭

willow wren
spark ridge
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Don't have to drop pris but having a few backup survs is nice

cedar crane
spark ridge
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I think he also got S GK

native kelp
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is pris still meta

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or no

rapid bay
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yea prisoner is not bad anyways

willow wren
spark ridge
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NAEU cooked

rapid bay
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but not meta

willow wren
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You think he did it himself??

spark ridge
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Boost with a 30% wr

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💀

willow wren
spark ridge
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I forgot how many games he had last season

cedar crane
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and i'm not "good"

native kelp
spark ridge
native kelp
willow wren
spark ridge
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nobody gets good at kiting overnight

rapid bay
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experience builds skill

native kelp
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real

spark ridge
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its a long journey

rapid bay
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i mean playing decoder is also a means to force yourself to learn to kite

spark ridge
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^]

cedar crane
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i will try in QP

native kelp
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most mechs dont use pallets right

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its kinda sad

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also dont use ur bot to body block

willow wren
native kelp
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always drop the bot

cedar crane
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x)

cedar crane
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i've tried a lot of time

willow wren
cedar crane
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its hard af

spark ridge
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Mech bodyblocking is dependent

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if its a hunter you think you can kite

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you can try it

willow wren
spark ridge
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but if its someone you know you probably wont last long vs

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drop it and rotate

native kelp
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also carry tide on mech

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never carry windows

spark ridge
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also chip hunters you generally always drop

cedar crane
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i didnt understand well sorry

cedar crane
willow wren
native kelp
native kelp
willow wren
cedar crane
willow wren
cedar crane
cedar crane
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ok

native kelp
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dont mech body block

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after ur bot is gone ur character is useless

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mech is weak so you have to be able to decode while your on chair

cedar crane
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i was like "its so hard bro.."

native kelp
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LOL

spark ridge
vernal vale
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Yeah the Asia propaganda isn't gonna work anyone a lot of na eu hunters would be top hunters there too

vernal vale
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I'm spectating some games it's just so

willow wren
# native kelp always drop the bot

I'm calling a cap, I keep the bot on myself and it works much better thank you very much!!

My mech strat is holding onto bot till (someone else then me) gets a hit (mechanic decides very slow if someone is injured so it's good to decode with ur main body as long as possible in the beggining) OR my cypher has 50% decoding progress. Then I drop the bot and go for another cypher myself simultaneously finishing 1st cypher.
Bot battery is enough to use it during endgame to feed tinnitus/rescue/open the gate or just push another cypher this way.

Plus if I keep the bot on me and hunter is on me I can guarantee a 3 cypher kite and if I do that my bot wouldve been useless anyways.

Of course decision to drop or not depends on the hunters and map. On some cases I drop them and transition too (eg. Lakeside idk against axe boy) @cedar crane

spark ridge
vernal vale
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Everytime someone discredits our players or hunters it's often coming from a place of cope

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Cus they often don't do well themselves anyway

spark ridge
willow wren
spark ridge
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Like I'd defo have like a 60 or smt in Asia I feel like

native kelp
spark ridge
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they just have a lot more competent survs

willow wren
vernal vale
spark ridge
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at least in comparisson to bad players

vernal vale
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Is your ping good in na eu?

willow wren
spark ridge
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Ehhh 80 is fine for me

vernal vale
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What's ur ping here and average season finishing winrate

spark ridge
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End of season my Witch usually averages 90%

vernal vale
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My average finishing winrate for a season is around 90

summer jackal
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cant relate when i play w 100ms asia

vernal vale
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Average ping 80-130

spark ridge
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Last time I loaded in my smurf on Asia I had 200 ping lol

willow wren
spark ridge
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witch on 200 is awful

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😭

native kelp
vernal vale
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I know I would do well there from what I'm seeing

cedar crane
willow wren
native kelp
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why am i skulled 😭💔

summer jackal
spark ridge
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if not its a tie

native kelp
cedar crane
native kelp
vernal vale
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Like everyone spectates our games and clowns us but I still see the same stuff in Asia games

cedar crane
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It was a friendly Hunter added me in

summer jackal
vernal vale
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Like it just not gonna work anymore if u pretend I never see games over there

native kelp
spark ridge
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I dont doubt Asia has its throwers its moreso the good players im scared of

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💀

cedar crane
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Ok i'll read all after, i need to go to work, see you guys ! thx you so much for all ur advice

spark ridge
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And ik Asia has waaaay more good players than NAEU

native kelp
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its so easy to hide a mech bot hunters are blind

vernal vale
spark ridge
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which is partly due to their way larger playerbase

spark ridge
vernal vale
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I think my winrate would be about 5-8% lower max

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Considering I'd be on reliable ping

willow wren
spark ridge
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If I had good ping id play a lot more meta hunters

native kelp
spark ridge
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Mainly Opera cause shes always seemed fun to me

vernal vale
willow wren
vernal vale
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Like none of these people know how to face wax or Ann apparently, it's not just our players

native kelp
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100 ms is unplayable 200 is crazy

spark ridge
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Does witch still have the highest rank WR in CN?

vernal vale
native kelp
spark ridge
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💀

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So sad

willow wren
# cedar crane Its good ?

You don't know what's Slytherin???? 😭😭😭😭😭

Its for Harry Potter book bro, it's not about if club is good some fan just used name from a book 🥀

spark ridge
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One day ill move to the east coast for that sweet 10 ms

vernal vale
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I'm ngl I didn't have a natural talent for opera I actually worked quite a bit to get a bit of consistency with her

vernal vale
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Over NY?

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Wait no

spark ridge
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I think NY is highest

vernal vale
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I'm dumb

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That is NY

spark ridge
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But east coast is NY lol

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yeah

native kelp
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im in jersey and my ping is a good 20

vernal vale
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Yo NY has been having it good since the game was released

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Straight up they've never seen ping higher than 30

spark ridge
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fr

willow wren
spark ridge
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Ill look at east coast streams and they stay at 20 or under

native kelp
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Low ping is key

vernal vale
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I season 1 my friend from NY had 30ms ping stable

spark ridge
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got me tweaking with my 80

vernal vale
vernal vale
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It's so buns

spark ridge
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Yeah I tried 80 ping opera few times

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didnt work out

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I just cant flip back fast enough to win the hits

spark ridge
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😔

vernal vale
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This is as fast as u can get it to go

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Like u can literally see her get stuck after every dash

spark ridge
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😭

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yeah

vernal vale
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You haven't seen me on 20ms it's like ridiculous how smoothly she transitions between shadows

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Actually this is way more clear

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Look how awful that js

willow wren
spark ridge
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Yeah I look at CN server gameplay and also just the COA opera really show how fast she is

vernal vale
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Japan is where it's at if u wanna see good opera. Movement cus they got some crazy low ping

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Like numa that guy has what

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14ms

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Bro

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That's why they rate cheerleader so lowly

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How can a 80ms opera still keep up with cheerleader

spark ridge
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I mean I believe it considering Peter came from there

vernal vale
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See how ridiculous the potential is

latent crater
vernal vale
latent crater
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she was spam pinging me that there were too many survivors to handle while i was phasing through walls 😔

vernal vale
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I think even base presence opera just blows up cheerleader

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She does what

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2 dashes

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Unless it's one of those maps where she gets from a terrible area to a super good one in those 2 pompoms

spark ridge
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Yeah she blows up most transition kiters

vernal vale
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She's dead already

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Like it's all about the first hit anyway

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That's what the game has shifted to

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Just stall the first hit is the main priority with most hunters

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If not all

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Cus following up is a lot easier now

willow wren
vernal vale
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That's why I don't believe in "pallet spam" like what are u gonna do with those pallets if u don't survive anyway

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Not many characters will allow for a rebound regardless

latent crater
vernal vale
# willow wren Brrrr scarry

I've spectated several opera games and they already force out an item so fast in the first 20s depending on the spawn

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It's kind of crazy

willow wren
vernal vale
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The game barely even starts and key items are already being used

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Yun is such a good hunter but coa is so hard

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I feel so bad for him

spark ridge
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Who does Yun hunt for again?

quaint geode
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How to play chairing hunter?? :-:

spark ridge
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But yeah COA is just another level of gameplay

spark ridge
quaint geode
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I never chair survivor.. so idk about the tricks

quaint geode
spark ridge
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uhhhhhhhhhh

willow wren
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@bright stream hi

spark ridge
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tldr chair

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dont ever give free rescues

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so always injure the rescuer

vernal vale
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Okay I can't watch the 60 winrate wax artists tho

spark ridge
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and hit the chaired surv before tide turner ends

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thats the tldr of camping

quaint geode
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Only I play is Undead.. but that one doesn't need chair

vernal vale
willow wren
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Ooop

vernal vale
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It's over man

willow wren
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Bro started from percy and now is confused

spark ridge
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I forget

vernal vale
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I'm not sure but it's not the kind of character that has that kind of winrate

quaint geode
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Is Ivy strong camper?

spark ridge
vernal vale
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I give them a chance to see why they might be losing their games and I'm thinking damn the survs must be good

spark ridge
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but camp isnt her whole thing

vernal vale
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And it's just the hunters error

spark ridge
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its mostly mind games

quaint geode
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Compare with Undead who has no camp ability

spark ridge
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Well... anyone has better camp than undead

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😭

quaint geode
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But exchange with massively chase

willow wren
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Want a strong camper? Hastur/Feaster heh

quaint geode
willow wren
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Naiad pretty good

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Especially basement naiad

spark ridge
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Depending on the map undead has pretty good chase

willow wren
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Same case with erm Foolsgold

vernal vale
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Eh feaster is a little overrated in his camp potential

spark ridge
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like eversleeping and CN town yeah undead is pretty goated

vernal vale
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I don't think he's too good at it

spark ridge
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throw him on arms though and its like

quaint geode
willow wren
vernal vale
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Even an old school rescuer like merc he just rushes in, takes the tentacle hit, rescues and then elbow pads out instantly

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It's like

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Too hard for feaster

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To get more

quaint geode
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There's a spot for Leap of Faith for Undead 😼

spark ridge
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BUT

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theres so much rebound potential on hospital

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so nah

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In general few hunters like that map

willow wren
vernal vale
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Are they actually working on a red church nerf or are they baiting hunter mains into thinking they will

willow wren
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They all getting dd

spark ridge
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What would they nerf about church

vernal vale
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I don't actually need red church to be nerfed but when they said that it sort of got my intrest

quaint geode
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Tbh.. Undead perform worst in Arms and Church.. but good to try

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Sacred heart if survivor like to kite in maze ruin

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That one has many leap zone for Undrad

vernal vale
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It's the safest play

willow wren
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They all getting dd

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Always

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Against feaster

spark ridge
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Feaster before max presence should never be a dd tbh

vernal vale
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If you don't even wanna mind game u legit just walk in, take the tentacle rescue and it's literally instant elbow pad out

spark ridge
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^

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Or just have the chaired surv bodyblock

willow wren
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My merc randoms get hit

vernal vale
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A lot of people forget this guy cannot swing

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Before the rescue is even done

spark ridge
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Its only max presence feaster thats scary

vernal vale
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It's not wax artist aha

spark ridge
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before that its chill

willow wren
spark ridge
spark ridge
summer jackal
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Also feaster’s strength is that he can dmg consistently after res

willow wren
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Bro forgor Cueist is a smol Ann

willow wren
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Nah ur fine

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Just teasing

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We don't speak about my LG kite

spark ridge
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Who was i playing

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Oh yeah doc

willow wren
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Also that grave in LG match was SO WEIRD

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He didn't use his shovel

fallen knot
willow wren
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If i didn't get a free hit thanks to her we couldve easly tied this

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But she refused to leave basement

spark ridge
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Yeah after he got max presence early I knew it was a wrap

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I prolly should have just fed tinnitus and lawyer healed u up

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That rescue after was NOT worth it

willow wren
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Damn true

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Yeah

spark ridge
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but I saw she had two stacks and was like

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rebound maaaybe...?

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but nah

willow wren
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Bro gave her a chance after this 🥀

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Nah i never rescue 2nd time if random died fast in the first place

eternal swan
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Wtf

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My ping keep spiking

rapid bay
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imagine if i could convert these to something

eternal swan
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How can i even spike when mine is set to low performance and my WiFi is good???

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No genuinely why is someone asking for a archer buff

lone magnet
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Top 5 character needs a buff

eternal swan
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I literally said when u aim for long and hit the hunter with the bow it can insta stun but like they said u still need to fill up the heart even if u aim for long at the hunter😭

lone magnet
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Most of the time I'm chase you can just give 50 anyway

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And kite normally

native kelp
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buff minds eye decoding but make her extra blind

summer jackal
sudden talon
storm rain
blissful cliff
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Guys how to play dentist frfr

errant quest
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btw I just make a tierlist

summer jackal
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Lizard below nightmare and clown

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Biased

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untrue

errant quest
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tourney tierlist

summer jackal
errant quest
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watching freddy get perma tie after a few game

summer jackal
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freddy needs to perform more

summer jackal
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Nothing to hide he uploads almost everything

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💔

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Qb not even in tourney yetIDVPatroller

errant quest
summer jackal
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No

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but

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But

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im just curious why mad eyes is pretty high

errant quest
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lizard is fine and strong but I cant find a tailored map that make him win

errant quest
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just the fact that you can tailor eversleeping

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but he is still kinda oom tho

rapid bay
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ive heard of nightmare potential but im curious

errant quest
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rank tierlist would be very diff like nightmare will drop a lot

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bc he is only good in like 2-4 maps

rapid bay
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also im surprised to see bonbon that high

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ic

errant quest
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less than half

rapid bay
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which maps?

errant quest
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lakeside and moolit is very strong

rapid bay
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seer being up there since the dawn of time is just funny

errant quest
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china and leo kinda doable
not sure about darkwoods

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outside that you just don't bother

errant quest
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he prolly one of a few hunter that can play in every map

summer jackal
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Ok

errant quest
summer jackal
errant quest
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but is lizard even good in current meta

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bonbon kinda awkward enough

summer jackal
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I think he’s somewhat weak

errant quest
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sculptor is just so bad rn

summer jackal
errant quest
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but looking in comp and win chance she has a bit of hope

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but in a strong comp she is so bad

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bonbon is better against surv item than sculptor

summer jackal
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Lizard winning in tourney sounds like a dream

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Freddy is strong but thats freddy erm

lone magnet
errant quest
lone magnet
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Oh its tourney

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Makes sense then

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I'm surprised seer is still a top tier in tourney he feels so meh in rank

hazy owl
vernal vale
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U just walk in

errant quest
vernal vale
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Feaster don't need to elbow pad in

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This guys attack recovery even with full berserker isn't fast enough

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To double hit

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If u elbow pad out of the chair after rescue

summer jackal
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Still who stands at chair

hazy owl
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That's fair enough

vernal vale
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Even if he proxy and found u early

hazy owl
vernal vale
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And feasters don't even leave the chair that much anyway they kind of need to stay close for the double hit

summer jackal
lone magnet
summer jackal
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can just hold tentacle wait to cancel res

errant quest
# hazy owl Ahhh, I see

Mainly respect her bc how she does well in rank and some clerk player like DX still perform

lone magnet
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Not knowing u can basic

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If you shoot chip

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Even if uts primed

vernal vale
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Cancel rescue and then what it's still not fast enough

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He still gets the rescue and makes it out

summer jackal
vernal vale
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That guys camp is completely overrated

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Feaster camping is as mythological as ripper

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So buns

errant quest
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Thats the only thing he has so

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He is just oom

lone magnet
vernal vale
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It's a myth it doesn't exist it's too old school

lone magnet
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Its all he has

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Is it good

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Fools gold even too

vernal vale
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Nah fools gold has a better double hit chance then that guy cus it actually has a decent staggering effect

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Feasters stagger doesn't exist cus they reworked that with bonbon bombs

lone magnet
vernal vale
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The instant you get hit by tentacle it doesn't stagger you, you can resume the rescue immediately

vernal vale
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It's the same logic as clown and holding the pick

vernal vale
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Better than what feaster can muster already

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I've seen high winrate fools golds in every server compared to feaster feaster is just awful

lone magnet
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I mean fg has good mobility so if the fg is good at chase he can actually get a normal down

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U can't just pre run him for 20-30 like feaster

summer jackal
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not gonna deny that feaster just suckBQ_Stunning

hazy owl
vernal vale
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Try watching feaster vs even slightly observant survivors it's so annoying

lone magnet
lone magnet
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And feaster does

hazy owl
eternal swan
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Ivy on top

vernal vale
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U can't even find a situation for the feaster player where they could do better cus it's just a character problem everytime

eternal swan
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Can't believe zq lost to te

vernal vale
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Seeing TE get this far is crazy I'm ngl

lone magnet
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Patroller feaster tho actually doesn't seem as bad

vernal vale
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The least expected thing

lone magnet
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Until u get supported

vernal vale
hazy owl
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Why are they not doing batch adjustment of old hunters in this current meta and just waiting for one question for scheduling buff for one character

vernal vale
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It's literally a simple fix as well it's not a huge balance change

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To get rid of the aiming ms debuff

lone magnet
hazy owl
hazy owl
vernal vale
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Ai balance change team

lone magnet
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Like he'll ember buff

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Was all numbers

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I don't think its that hard to change numbers

vernal vale
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Hell embers missed attack recovery is insane though

lone magnet
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Like they could just do like alot of old hunter balance changes

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And just put them

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In test servee

vernal vale
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The way they dodge around vio/ripper/feadter changes is like as if they think it's illegal for those characters to ever be useful again

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Has feaster even been used in coa ever

hazy owl
# lone magnet In test servee

THIS! They have a test server, why not batch number testing instead? It's not that hard if it's only the statistics.

vernal vale
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In coa 2

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And that's it

summer jackal
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Qualifiers

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mai

vernal vale
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And he did well cus he was the only guy doing it at the time or something

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Coa 2 rockson

hazy owl
vernal vale
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Actually I remeber playing customs with rockson when he tried to come back to the game

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Would do scrims

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He would play BQ and feaster but his feaster would get 3 escaped
Dude just straight up said he hates the game balance and left the game again after maybe 2 months

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Even tho in top tier he still had a 97 winrate

lone magnet
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Lowkdy that's kinda average hunter main

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Having 97% wr and when they lose

vernal vale
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Like I practiced vs his feaster in those scrims and the game was getting to a point where it was so obvious what characters have fallen off

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How can a career feaster just get 3 escaped easily with standard gameplay

vernal vale
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And more persona points

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Other hunters have greatly benefitted for sure but I find it hard to imagine feaster has

hazy owl
# lone magnet Having 97% wr and when they lose

It's different though, ranking composition vs professional (or soon-to-be) composition. At ranking, they just care about their character pts and the rank pts, so the composition may have a huge hole in it against certain hunters.

vernal vale
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I think I was merc
My team mates played mech prospector and female dancer

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So for that time that was still a strong team comp

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Seer banned for the scrim

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I like how seer has been nerfed and he's still goated tho

errant quest
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From FT HIM (chinese hunter)

frank crane
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TE 4 escaped DX's dream witch...?

native kelp
native kelp
summer jackal
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Sure sure

hazy owl
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She would be a character for one that seeks horror and thrill

errant quest
onyx fractal
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is a strong word

onyx fractal
errant quest
summer jackal
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dx’s dw didnt lose once

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More than once IDVPatroller

onyx fractal
summer jackal
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Postman in this meta is eh

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there are better choices

onyx fractal
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postman rn is a menace for all the hulla and opera mains

summer jackal
#

erm

errant quest
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I find postman strong but he isnt that good against other meta

onyx fractal
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even cn teams are picking postman

summer jackal
#

erm

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erm

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erm

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One more will be counted as spamming huh

errant quest
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Postman is like picked only once tho

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And he is weak against hulla and opera. He is only good against cueist lowk

onyx fractal
lethal finch
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Does it alert the hunter when ur inside the escapologist smoke and u vault?

spark ridge
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😭

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So tragic

errant quest
onyx fractal
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oh huh

errant quest
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Weeping and coord pick is absurdly high

onyx fractal
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I swear I saw at least 2

errant quest
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Wildling too

native kelp
onyx fractal
native kelp
onyx fractal
native kelp
willow wren
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What the hell is this bro

covert lichen
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hi y'all

willow wren
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Yo

fervent vault
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New to idv, building geisha, is this decent?

spark ridge
hazy owl
ivory kayak
spark ridge
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Yeah only thing I'd say is impulsive might be worth more

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Especially since as geisha you will be in chase like

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a lot

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Plus it can help her get some cheeky pallet hits

spark ridge
hazy owl
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Geisha can pretty much instant chase in many maps, just dash towards survivor spawn

fervent vault
hazy owl
hazy owl
fervent vault
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Just never took a screenshot after

fervent vault
spark ridge
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Uhhh you mean trait?

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If so then blink

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If theres a lot of stun or harass you can go excitement

hazy owl
spark ridge
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Ik some geishas do like it but ehhhhhhh

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I mean it helps with map pressure I suppose

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Still though ik most prefer blink

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But hey if peepers works for ya it works

fervent vault
hazy owl
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Reasonable

fervent vault
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Thx for the help yall

spark ridge
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Another thing I don't like about peepers is that the higher you climb the better people get at kiting geisha sometimes so blink being there for that tie guarantee is nice

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Np

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And if you don't have to use it for down you can always use blink for drop down hit

grand timber
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Not really strategy but idk if im bugged because online it says it takes 500exp to hit lvl 4 and then you have to get to 650 to hit level 5, meanwhile I’m at level 4 with over 1300exp. Also apparently i cant play ranked if im under lvl 5 yet i have it unlocked and have played it a lot, idk if this is because I’m playing on a really old account maybe i have to make a new one 😔😞

craggy saddle
#

Any clown pros here?

eternal swan
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Weepy,smiley,mike or mike switch

craggy saddle
scarlet bone
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@summer jackal I’m so scared Right Now

shut swan
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am i better off playing geisha or disciple in rank?

craggy saddle
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Guys im really confused I saw a smiley face game on youtube and the player used their rocket dash, hit someone and their dash was immediately available to use

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Why is that happening

spark ridge
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It let's you unlock presence (your abilities) faster

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So after 1 hit you unlock rocket dash as opposed to the usual 2 hits it would take

craggy saddle
spark ridge
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Have the vid link?

craggy saddle
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I tried replicating this in a single lobby and it had a cooldown

frank crane
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do we get points from afk teammates

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bcs mine just went afk

craggy saddle
frank crane
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ok yeah thank god bcs

spark ridge
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I know some abilities like BQ mirror and soul weaver spit reset cd once you hit max presence

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So I assume this is like that?

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You said you couldn't replicate that though so I'm unsure

vernal vale
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The CD resets if you you unlock 1st pres

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Not max

craggy saddle
brisk dove
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yeah cd reset cuz of presence

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it cant be the hit though

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so it was super duper well timed inso i believe

vernal vale
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It's just timed well

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You get +500 from a hit

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And he was probably 998

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Presence

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Or even 999

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Once he hits 1000 it resets cd cus of inso

craggy saddle
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I don't understand why that matters

vernal vale
#

It matters cus that's how insolence works

craggy saddle
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u would reach max presence even if ur presence was a bit lowe

vernal vale
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Insolence trickles

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Over time

craggy saddle
vernal vale
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It was basically primed to 99% of max presence already

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So he was literally 1999

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I'll show u

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Lemme reset something

brisk dove
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but for a normal player its luck

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and just reeeeeally well timed

vernal vale
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There you go

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I had to reset something for practice mode to be green ping

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It was giving me west coast

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Pay attention to the timing

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It's a strategy for one trick clowns if they're not having the best early games but ideally you don't rely on this anyway

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It's reliable if you're opening max presence though

craggy saddle
vernal vale
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It's the same logic

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You just keep track of the progress

craggy saddle
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But cd is not reset on 2nd pres

vernal vale
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It should for clown

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They haven't removed Cd reset for clown

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Or BQ or geisha

craggy saddle
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Thats the part im asking about

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I know that first pres resets cd

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but he is already past 1st pres in the video

lone magnet
#

hulla ban.

onyx fractal
lone magnet
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@onyx fractal cueist or bee?

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i think cueist?

onyx fractal
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qb

lone magnet
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lucky?

onyx fractal
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Yeah

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Qb can freely chase embalmer late game

lone magnet
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alr

onyx fractal
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Just make sure to check

real haven
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this soulweaver skin, will it be somehow obtainable after it leaves the shop?

onyx fractal
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If Embalmer has full kite

lone magnet
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alrightie

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ty

real haven
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A unlock?

onyx fractal
onyx fractal
onyx fractal
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Just QB has better chance imo

lone magnet
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chaired corner

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novelist didnt come in

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so all 3 were decoding

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so i kinda just camped ada

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then embalmer came in but too late and i just downed him fast

onyx fractal
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Yeah just get her off her cipher

lone magnet
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yea then i saw embalmer get off so i went embalmer direction and bro saw me and dipped

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😭 🙏

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i think embalmer had tide

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i didnt see any kiting persona

lethal finch
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Does anyone know if a survivor vault inside escapologist smoke does it alert the hunter?

lone magnet
#

does goatman basic without cage get rid of escape fog?

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flywheel

vernal vale
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No

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It counts as a chip

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To his main body

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It costs a cage to get rid of the mist

lone magnet
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wait i just did it in my game

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i didnt use cage and just hit him

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goat counters escape??

wooden iris
#

Need help, how do I do the dentist deduction quest on.
Make the survivor come into contact with the light beam part

I could swore that the survivor already walk pass through the wall lightbeam and my deduction still not complete

vernal vale
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Mist dissappears after u just basic swing?

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What the

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Since when

lone magnet
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i didnt palce cage

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swung him

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then swung again

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chip

brisk dove
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WAIT

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i just realized

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the issue i have with thinking thief is broken is because i'm a pc player

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he's probably actual freelo on mobile 😭

winter ravine
#

Is borrowed time actually worth taking or should you just take flywheel and broken windows on archer? Because the way I feel is that if the ciphers don't get popped or they don't get popped at a proper time, then it's just a dead trait. And even in the situations it works, 70% of the time the hunter has detention so you get maybe 5-10 extra seconds before just going down in 1 hit anyway

winter ravine
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Okay but why

lone magnet
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she doesnt need kj

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her kite is strong enough

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only time i can really see knee jerk is if u know who the hunter is

winter ravine
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I guess I just don't get it because I'm new but like

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It just feels worthless to take something that I feel isn't used in 70-80% of my games

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I just feel that like even when I'm alive and all the ciphers get popped, it's either in a situation that borrowed isn't helping me anyway, or we're winning so hard that its pointless

lone magnet
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archer kit is strong enough where u can kite basically every hunter

winter ravine
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I think I'm too dumb

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I get that archer kit is strong enough on its own

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But I still would rather have something I can use whenever I need it against something that will get used automatically when someone pops the last cipher

rancid matrix
willow wren
#

Anyone knows if it's possible to link one idv account to 2 different mails?

winter ravine
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I don't doubt that you're right because you clearly know a lot more about the game than I do, but I wanna be able to understand over just blindly using it

ivory kayak
willow wren
rancid matrix
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That's valid honestly but I would experiment with a few builds in QMs to understand the final talents. If you aren't playing any rescuer type characters don't worry about bringing tide on anyone right now. Two final talents on every build is mandatory, and exit path (self heal when downed) is also non negotiable. Feel free to mix up a combination of the final talents but I think after some exposure you'll find that stability you're looking for in Borrowed Time as a perma final talent

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Honestly I think the most beginner friendly build is just kneejerk reflex and borrowed time because those speed boosts will almost always get you value regardless of your skill level in this game

ivory kayak
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Only time I would tolerate someone not bringing bt is a really good kiter/harasser who you know the hunter wont go for, like wildling and forward

rancid matrix
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It's very easy to fail a flywheel compared to getting value on speedboosts

winter ravine
willow wren
rancid matrix
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I'm going to break the news to you gently Shon

stuck comet
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Bt is for loser

rancid matrix
#

DBD has good servers so deadhard is fine

ivory kayak
rancid matrix
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idv servers are nonexistent if you are EU

winter ravine
stuck comet
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I carry that Sui build on painter

lone magnet
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but rn standard pick

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flywheel bt

winter ravine
willow wren
winter ravine
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In fact I'm not even sure what force healing even is ngl...

ivory kayak
lone magnet
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where cipher is 90%

stuck comet
#

DBD HAS FLYWHEEL?

lone magnet
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and the dead on chair person got downed?

winter ravine
stuck comet
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🤯

stuck comet
winter ravine
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It's now just basically an extra health state

lone magnet
ivory kayak
stuck comet
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Close enough welcome back IDV

winter ravine
bright stream
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To rank or not to rank

lone magnet
stuck comet
lone magnet
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so if cipher is 90%

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u heal to delay

winter ravine
#

I see

bright stream
lone magnet
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like for example

winter ravine
#

But also like I said I do not see that in my games

stuck comet
lone magnet
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geisha cant do anything abt heal stall

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but chip hunters or stunners

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can deal with heal stalling

stuck comet
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It’s not worth to solo

ivory kayak
bright stream
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What if I’m scared to hunt

lone magnet
stuck comet
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Also it’s been a while talking

willow wren
# winter ravine See bodyblocking and force healing isn't something that happens in my games

I told you already but you seemed to miss my message. You will rsnk up soon, and the higher you rank up the better the players will be and they will add all those small stuff.
Force healing is when last cypher is very close to be primed like 95% but not enough to pop it and the person hunter is chasing is dead-on-chair (which means they will fly away the moment they are put on the chair).
Force healing is just healing the downed survivor so hunter can't pick them up and forcing hunter to hit you and then cypher pops!

ivory kayak
stuck comet
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Ann and naiad brutal

lone magnet
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only if its 80%

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but even then

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u cant really heal stall

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80%

vernal vale
#

Need a hunter with poison Effect/DOT

bright stream
lone magnet
#

against like 85% of hunters

ivory kayak
winter ravine
bright stream
stuck comet
bright stream
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With cipher control

lone magnet
vernal vale
#

It'd be a unique dynamic

bright stream
#

🤔

lone magnet
#

without even bt

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😭

stuck comet
#

Better than Ann ngl

winter ravine
#

So you don't force heal/bodyblock if someone doesn't have bt then right?

lone magnet
#

she hit once

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and we self healed bro

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before her recovery ended

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😭

bright stream
ivory kayak
lone magnet
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but lets be real

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ur not gonna instantly just swing

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cause of stress and what not

stuck comet
bright stream
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Yes

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Link me please 🙏

stuck comet
#

S1渔女

bright stream
#

Thank you

stuck comet
#

No problem bromacho

bright stream
#

Gonna be pro naiad now

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Bear style

stuck comet
#

I had to search up mandarin for naiad

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Thankful it wasn’t hard

bright stream
#

I should try that with my mains too

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I’ve just been using tiktok

stuck comet
#

LMFAOOO I REMEMBERED HIM

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OMFG MY MEMORIES

ivory kayak
#

I have a feeling dentists wont bring detention in ranked with allat chipping

willow wren