treasure-scramble

[shut vessel]

whats zone 2 buff?

[cinder pivot]

This event makes no sense

I can’t battle

People said it was auto yesterday, but I’m getting nothing. My rank is still N/A.

[odd tulip]

Well, you can't control the battle

Its basically hoe but random and less stressful

[cinder pivot]

I meant I can’t battle at all

[odd tulip]

Pretty much

[cinder pivot]

Like there is no buttons to start battle, just adjust formation

And I clicked every button on the screen, but I get nowhere where I could battle

[solid monolith]

you don't start the battle, it battles automatically

[cinder pivot]

Then what’s the point of a battle history section?

[solid monolith]

[cinder pivot]

If it battles automatically, shouldn’t I at least get some rank?

[odd tulip]

So you can view the battle?

[cinder pivot]

Or some win count?

No

[solid monolith]

the new cycle started a few minutes ago, so it might take some time for them to start

[cinder pivot]

What about the previous cycles?

[solid monolith]

did you set your teams?

[cinder pivot]

Yes

[solid monolith]

does your scramble intel have any information on it?

[cinder pivot]

It just said that it will be available after the competition

[warped sundial]

did you click the event the day before? 2 resets ago at this point

[cinder pivot]

Pretty sure I did

[shut vessel]

when does it start scrambling today?

[warped sundial]

i thought it was now, but nothing, so...4 days later????

[shut vessel]

this event is weird

[warped sundial]

yeah idgi either

[worldly wedge]

It just started

[shut vessel]

hmm what 3rd team should i use?

[worldly wedge]

At least for me

[shut vessel]

scarlet cycle, luc cycle, alna gb?

[warped sundial]

you haven't put in team ?

[worldly wedge]

Scarlet Cycle is real bad afaik

[shut vessel]

i did alna gb

[warped sundial]

don't tell me some dude at the company has to manually hit the button

so it starts at random timing

[shut vessel]

oh i have to pick 5 teams now

alna gb, burst, luc cycle, ainz and...

It's so fucking bullshit

Each team is against a variation of athane

[warped sundial]

oof, almost makes you wonder if it's worth just making one viable team instead of 3 teams so that one team gets some wins for points

[warped sundial]

1.5 hours later only 12 battles done

if it's already gonna takes 12 hours for 3v3's, what's 4v4 or 5v5 gonna be like

[minor stirrup]

This game mode is (very bad word for stupid).

[teal ferry]

Really shit

[formal aspen]

has anyone tried scarlet cycle instead of Luc cycle?? I'm just curious

[mild yoke]

Lol the games afk this is the first literally afk game mode for rewards I’d rather this over hoe

[ionic forge]

35

[whole loom]

Especially..when AwThane come

[dusk tundra]

the boogeyman

[peak widget]

5 teams for scramble ?

[warped sundial]

god this thing is still going

[green viper]

longer than I expected

been getting crushed

[warped sundial]

i'm doing terrible in this mode but still slowly going up in points so i guess i'm fine

my minimum investments in engraving don't do so well in this mode

[shut vessel]

yea same

im getting slaughtered

[warped sundial]

i'm sure there's some small improvements i can do but it's not like i'm gonna start investing in pvp so i don't think i should care really

but still, if it takes them this long to run 3v3

[green viper]

well i said that but I'm still very much top 20

[warped sundial]

can they even finish calculating 5x5 in a day

[warped sundial]

wokethane whale

smh

[green viper]

ye my other teams r doing horrible

[shut vessel]

My win rate 60%

[warped sundial]

basically same

[umbral nymph]

Luc team didnt find much luck this event

Gonna swap them for celegb

[warped sundial]

i feel like it's designed so you just put your highest engraved carry and then build from there

team synergy secondary

alna gb kinda sucks but athalia is still holding the 67% win rate on her own

on the other hand my ainz team sucks, but maybe cause i tried to go fancy with it

[reef trail]

idk i think mode is great

nice for people to be able to get rewards for pvp invest

everyones winrate should end up around 50% soon

[warped sundial]

i don't hate it considering the tiny amount of work needed

if this were actually more like CR (or just hoe) where you had to start battle, skip battle, start battle, skip battle, i would absolutely freak out about it lol

[fervent bobcat]

sucks fighting teams with such a huge advantage on me

and unlike hoe i cant choose who i fight

rewards are alot less too

[warped sundial]

as it is, 1 minute a day for rewards, something to watch happening when i'm really bored

[fervent bobcat]

i win and gain +2 i lose and drop -7

[warped sundial]

i do wonder how far they expect people to move with this mode

6 zones, but only 10 more days

at this rate i might end in zone 4?

[nocturne token]

I dont mind a few thousands diamonds/week without doing anything

[indigo epoch]

AlnaGB and Ainz are winning ~70% for me, Luc cycle with Haelus only around 50-55%. In newer region though.

[lilac bobcat]

1st team will likely be ainz or alna gb comp

Those two are always 1 and 2

2nd is likely cycle

🙃

You just gotta guess

And put your comps where they will win a fight

By putting your ainz at 3rd place. It will have a huge win rate

1st alna gb. 2nd cycle. 3rd ainz

Youre welcome

[fervent bobcat]

i dont even have alna lol

still building luc

[civic sage]

I’m glad I’m a new player

Seems like this mode sucks for older players

I don’t really get how this makes sense tho

[indigo epoch]

5pull seems good in my region too lol

Beats my ainz sometimes, gb and luc cycle often

[civic sage]

I think it’s the buff

[sharp rapids]

Maybe even 5, since if the big whales move to the upper division, you will be left behind with people around your investment or lower. Overall, you should end the event like 1-2days behind the big whales, which means around 1 divisions below them?

Maybe

[nocturne token]

But fish is big whale

[warped sundial]

stahp

people are actually believing it

asking me for e80 mercs when i don't even have e60

[peak widget]

hey man can i cop ur e80 a 409 Athane?

[umbral nymph]

How can a 🐟 be a ?

[visual field]

seafood

[umbral nymph]

Is scramble stuck on 83 battles?

[desert spade]

2nd division, still no loss of prestige which is nice.

It's in the title. Scramble. Which means randomly matched against random players with random teams.

[nocturne token]

You had 17 fights in first division before reaching 2k points

[umbral nymph]

I see now thanks

[zinc canyon]

nice find, ill try 5pull as my 3º

[zinc canyon]

wont this be like hoe if you just -0 when you lose(assuming it keeps going), eventually you will get to top division for certain threshold of players(older or $$$) ?

[sharp rapids]

you don't always -0

[zinc canyon]

from 4 team onwards ?

[sharp rapids]

even at 3

I got -6

[zinc canyon]

really 👀

[sharp rapids]

yes

[zinc canyon]

does it happen often ?

[sharp rapids]

most of the loses I managed to see

were -points

I had some -0 too

[zinc canyon]

hmm

then you are right, it might be rough to get to upper division.

at least in a timely fashion.

still stand that this might be like HoE, the tendency is to climb...related to your teams/box.

[civic sage]

seems like some degree of luck as well

a lot of ppl t100 are much weaker then me

but I'm only 2-4% rn

[main abyss]

yeah apparently if you win one match at least you dont lose points

in those weird matchups

[zinc canyon]

is that how it is

[main abyss]

it is a bit of a weird system

[zinc canyon]

ill try to pay attention next scramble

[arctic thicket]

Barely even touched this event, anything manual to do aside from setting up teams?

[solid monolith]

nope, just set it and collect rewards the next day. and change your team if you wish

[arctic thicket]

collect rewards from where? Mail?

[solid monolith]

there are daily rewards you collect on the treasure scramble menu daily, and I believe the weekly rewards for your rating are sent to your mailbox

[arctic thicket]

Ah, thx, probably missed the daily completely xD

[warped sundial]

huh, 92 fights today

it never did 100

i feel scammed

[shut vessel]

You probably did 8 before rank up

[terse heart]

Someone give me a 4th team

For a kiss

[warped sundial]

oh

[green viper]

@tropic canyon

[tropic canyon]

[green viper]

This mode is sad

[dusk tundra]

:T

[green viper]

Thats me

[acoustic canyon]

Nope. Won 1 match out of 3, lost 1 point

[main abyss]

k probably depends on the opponents prestige then makes sense

[ionic forge]

Do you guys have a better third team ? that luc cycle doesn't seem to be any good

[kindred pendant]

Astar mishka burst didnt work better for me. My 3. Team is mostly up against ainz alna/gb

[warped sundial]

ouch 4 teams is yikes

i'm losing 4/4

time to try something really stupid for tomorrow

if it doesn't work at least i can say i tried

[shut vessel]

fuck scramble

i dropped to rank 70

[warped sundial]

i rose up in ranks today, but my 4 team is tragic

[bronze flax]

cycle is really bad for this event

[bitter oasis]

I've Been using Mishka, Raku, Pop Talene sort of shit and It has like 60% wr for me, heavily invested Raku and Mishka tho e80 both

[ionic forge]

Damn, raku is 44 and mishka 60 for me

[bright light]

I need help to set 4th team ,
Luc 5p
budget ainz
daimon gb
wanna do raku 4th with random bullshit but idk who since most my invested heroes r used already

[zinc canyon]

luc 5pull, mishka scarlet are very low %, well need to be lucky vs what you get matched but

[indigo epoch]

Matchups are really hard. I've seen like 3x Ainz lol.

[zinc canyon]

tried my luc burst of sort variant, but its really pityful that winrate

might as well kept mishka or standard

close to 4 teams anyway, so soon

already changed teams, hope changes enter in effect

[indigo epoch]

Teams are locked in for the day 2hrs after reset. Changes only happen the next day.

[civic sage]

I'd put pippa in that raku team for normal talene

but make her be backline

[zinc canyon]

luc and mishka are a tragedy

[solemn pawn]

I feel like mishka and luc should switch teams

[zinc canyon]

not sure how to revise it, usually cycle is pretty trash for me.

[steep igloo]

My Maulers team shouldn't be doing better than Lucretcia

[zinc canyon]

is with ldv that good ? 👀

[solemn pawn]

I think ldv pop ainz is really good

[zinc canyon]

had pop and ldv on another team for raku

but will try it on ainz

[indigo epoch]

Someone on my server has a scarlet comp that looks somewhat successful. Saw it beat a full e60 ainz team.

[zinc canyon]

its not like they dont win, but meh i wish they would be a bit more consistent

[indigo epoch]

I copied their comp because my budget/makeshift burst is pretty bad. So ill find out tomorrow anyway lol.

[zinc canyon]

true

got a 5th and 6th team done but might need some changes

when it comes to teams outside of standard really feel at loss

[zinc canyon]

saw merlin albedo mortas ldv ainz(not sure about order)

ill do something with those 5 for team 1 so i can put arthur on team 5 with raku

still need to think about team 6, whenever i get there.

[indigo epoch]

Im trying a mauler invade with kren for my 5th team.

6th team i dont have much left. 5-pull lol.

[zinc canyon]

maybe good 👀

[ionic forge]

what are your first two teams please sir ?

[zinc canyon]

changed team 1, will try it next scramble.

if not ill keep standard AAA mortas merlin.

and slot it something else on team 5

[ionic forge]

Ty, will try to swap some of mine

[zinc canyon]

[ionic forge]

that 0% hurted my feeling poor luc

[zinc canyon]

yea, suprised cycle isn't that good on scramble

[lilac bobcat]

Cycle is made to cycle

[acoustic canyon]

you're also looking at 4 fights, which is just not representative enough

[shut vessel]

my ainz wr is <50%

[warped sundial]

oh finally, split section for events lol

[acoustic canyon]

👏

[mortal halo]

Love it too

[warped sundial]

it was getting really crowded lol

[mortal halo]

So much

I don't remember who suggested that but what a good idea

[warped sundial]

i mentioned it in a comment but never made a real suggestion

didn't care enough xd

[mortal halo]

I have no hopes in team 5 either. That really works? 🤔

[acoustic canyon]

does anyone know if elder tree actually has an influence in this mode ? we don't have battle reports that clearly shows elder tree, as in arena or any other mode

have a sneaky suspicion it doesn't

[warped sundial]

it does, it's just the stats from zone buff outweight tree

[wise lion]

just watch a replay to the end, then tap battle report as always

it's there

[warped sundial]

look at the stats you get from zone buff and look at the stats you get from tree

[wise lion]

and you can clearly see Tree symbols, esp Cele in burst.

[warped sundial]

zone buff >> tree, which makes engravings extra good and tree kinda meh

[acoustic canyon]

ok good to know, thanks. I assumed since I couldn't outright access it that it didn't exist, didn't think about watching a fight until the victory screen.

[acoustic canyon]

the more we more progress, the more relevant tree becomes though right ? since buffs diminish

[warped sundial]

yes, but most people aren't moving much past zone 4 or 5

zone 3 is gonna take me 4 days

zone 1 --> 1 day
zone 2 --> 2 days
zone 3 --> 4 days
zone 4 --> remaining
zone 5 --> maybe at the end

for me anyway

[wise lion]

nw, neither did I. someone else pointed it out to me lol

[warped sundial]

if zone 1 took you longer, the rest probably will too

[acoustic canyon]

I guess so yes

[umbral nymph]

Stall bois trying their best

This event likes to remind that ainz is still meta pvp after his relase

[zinc canyon]

not sure, not there yet, another 2 days maybe.

[teal ferry]

Yw

[mortal halo]

👍

[zinc canyon]

yesterday

gonna try luc 5pull today along with ldv ainz

[warped sundial]

that mishka abomination has higher win rate than my luc cycle

[zinc canyon]

difference between a professional player and a casual

[warped sundial]

rood

i'm already in physical pain you can't add onto it rn

[zinc canyon]

take an aspirin

but on a serious note, im suprised

it did so well

[warped sundial]

so am i like wtf, should i run that instead of a normal pvp comp

i mean it kinda makes sense since there are extra rules that other comps would work better, but

THAT comp?

[zinc canyon]

try it maybe, not sure if it takes away from anything else you use so

[warped sundial]

i'm running mishka lorsan burst

[zinc canyon]

that has a very high % rate ?

[warped sundial]

50% win rate, which isn't great but it's...acceptable, so probably not taking it apart

[zinc canyon]

that makes sense yea, waste

gonna run this today

and see what works best

[warped sundial]

oh wait burst did 75% yesterday, not 50% lol

the day before was lower

rng be rng ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zinc canyon]

yea, you need to be lucky to get matched vs something you can win or not

[warped sundial]

get matched against wokethane burst, just die

[zinc canyon]

[warped sundial]

they totally made this entire game mode to showcase woke thane smh

[zinc canyon]

swipe swipe

[warped sundial]

the thing is i could absolutely build him right now, but is he more worth than wokelene

[zinc canyon]

hard decision, risk saying no

for pvp is different

[warped sundial]

i was gonna go with him if he did well on bossing in HF, but it seems like he's just mediocre there unless i missed something

[zinc canyon]

awalene is useful pve, cr

[zinc canyon]

wb scarlet ?

[warped sundial]

i don't know actually

[zinc canyon]

i read something here on discord, saying it was not that good but

[warped sundial]

didn't see anything with her in but didn't see her performing badly either

[zinc canyon]

i meant, outstanding

in what she performs on other modes

[warped sundial]

i'm sure hardcore testers will have more data but i'm just casually watching public posts

she didn't exactly do well in AE S6 either

but for a CR unit that's 4f, she's definitely still worth

woke heroes on the other hand

[zinc canyon]

gotta be careful yea, expensive

im still gonna try to ascend awalene eventually

[warped sundial]

it's annoying how much i have to merc her

just, week after week of trying to get one

[zinc canyon]

they are gone in an instant from my merc pool

[warped sundial]

i have a decent amount of "whale"-ish friends but it's still not easy

i can get one most weeks, but there's been some where i couldn't

[zinc canyon]

you got haelus yet ?

[warped sundial]

i have almost everything else that's not *new celehypo

i guess frumpty isn't new anymore, still don't have tho

[zinc canyon]

is he worth it tho ?

[warped sundial]

not really, but there's a week when i have to merc one

[zinc canyon]

thats not too bad, if its just once in a while

[warped sundial]

and he's also decent-not-great in pvp, on the topic of treasure scramble

[zinc canyon]

whats he ran with ? burst ?

[warped sundial]

not really

i don't understand his comps, it looks like a bunch of random stuff to me

[zinc canyon]

i saw some dive push thoran cheese with him tho

on campaign

[warped sundial]

look at that lol, it never makes sense to me

kind of just looks like leftover good heroes that can scrap by one win sometimes, but maybe there's some hidden synergy i don't understand

[zinc canyon]

whats the new hypo doing ?

[warped sundial]

this other comp barely wins too, it seems like it's always there to just clean up 2~3 heroes from last fight

who knows, but it's a celehypo so it goes to +40 e100 so maybe more worth than other heroes

or maybe it's a grez counter if people need a grez counter, idk

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zinc canyon]

awathane

[nocturne token]

why is velocity a grez counter again?

[warped sundial]

uhhhhh didn't she have something with summons

idk if it actually works like it sounds

[wise lion]

vyloris sig deals bonus damage to summons

[nocturne token]

yeah why the skill need to be that specific against summons...

in before AE7 boss summoning shits...

[zinc canyon]

dont give them ideas

[warped sundial]

nothing they haven't already thought of

[nocturne token]

like this event

[zinc canyon]

what time does scramble start ?

[warped sundial]

2 hours after reset

[zinc canyon]

another hour to go then

[warped sundial]

it already goes on for half a day with most people in 4 battles, can you imagine if everyone's in 5+

servers go boom

[zinc canyon]

that sounds

[nocturne token]

6 battles go all day

[zinc canyon]

6 is max no 7th ?

there is another icon

so maybe

[warped sundial]

they're totally hoping their algorithm makes it so most people don't get there rn xd

i think i'll just barely get to 6 comps on last day

[zinc canyon]

point gain is going to be really slow

[nocturne token]

yeah not anyone would make it to 7

[zinc canyon]

unless you are winning all fights

[nocturne token]

its decreasing too

[warped sundial]

yeah, i might just end at 5 too, pretty sure i'll get to 5 though unless point gain stops entirely from today on

it's like forced HoE, point gain slows but because no one can purposely stall till last day, everyone will still be moving

HoE be like "i stall u go" and then no one goes and then point gain stops entirely

[zinc canyon]

4 win gave me 17 points
3 win = 8 9 points
2 win = 2 3 4 points

[warped sundial]

it depends on who you win against too

if it's a player far above you you get more points

[zinc canyon]

1 win = -2

[nocturne token]

i got -8 a lot

[zinc canyon]

i get - 2 -3 or -0 , not too often

-8 is

[warped sundial]

i didn't check much yesterday but i really only saw a lot of -0 -2 -3

i'm sure i could have missed it but i haven't seen -8

[zinc canyon]

4 win = 13 points, thats about it from the last 10 battles

[nocturne token]

i do get +16

[zinc canyon]

4 win ?

[warped sundial]

i don't have a 4 win in my last 10

[zinc canyon]

[nocturne token]

yeah, but cant check rn

only last 10 fights

it depends on the opponents you faced probably

[zinc canyon]

another 2 days for 4k, id say

[nocturne token]

@lusty jungle how many points you have so far in scramble?

[lusty jungle]

4849

[nocturne token]

love u

[red apex]

A treasure scramble meme

[zinc canyon]

professional scramble player

💯

today it goes so slow

1 hour 6 battles

[nocturne token]

yeah

look like more players enter 4 teams

[zinc canyon]

-5

[limpid horizon]

It feels weird seeing 5 pull luc doesnt work anymore

[teal ferry]

Never worked to begin with

[nocturne token]

go ldv

[acoustic canyon]

Only 16 fights. Wait a bit

[warped sundial]

i dropped to rank 100 yesterday from shitty comps but hey, i got 25 followers out of being exactly rank 100 #worth?

[lofty zealot]

I'll follow you fish

[warped sundial]

you like being spammed by useless shit in bard tales?

[lofty zealot]

it's all just spam anyway

what region are you

[warped sundial]

19

mystery dude upvoting everything has doubled

[lofty zealot]

oh shit # 57

big whale

[warped sundial]

comps slightly less stupid today

just go meta bro ;_;

[zinc canyon]

free updots, soon fish will be a contributor on game and discord

[warped sundial]

[zinc canyon]

i know you want it

[nocturne token]

push trift for me

[warped sundial]

no u

[nocturne token]

i buy u next noble

[warped sundial]

[nocturne token]

[umbral nymph]

Framton seems to be always with morael and astar

Idk what the comp does thought

[spring lake]

Any recommendations? Don’t have Haelus or Zaph yet

[umbral nymph]

@spring lake theo for kelthur if u like her

[spring lake]

I have her SI20 no furniture or engraving. Is it worth?

[umbral nymph]

She kinda likes furn

209 would prob be better than kelthur with only 10

[spring lake]

Ok thanks

[steep parcel]

how did they come up with regions? how many Servers are in a region?

[zinc canyon]

that saurus mishka looks good % wise

[indigo epoch]

Thats the scarlet comp i copied

But they have e60 saurus, 309 lyca, etc. So probably better than mine.

[zinc canyon]

could try that, but it would imply removing lyca from pull

hmmm

[bronze flax]

Hmmm

[zinc canyon]

ok did some changes, will try this today, hopefully when i get to 5 teams ill have 4 of them stable with an okay %

[bronze flax]

I mean, I'm happy with mine XD

5 teams is gonna be a pain in the ass rhoufh

[zinc canyon]

also changed ainz and ldv, hopefully order matters here.

[zinc canyon]

its not bad at all, over 50% overall is

[bronze flax]

My weakest team is apparently cycle lmao

I dunno if it's cuz of positioning or what

[umbral nymph]

@bronze flax is because of the buff

Cycle cant cycle vs heavy burst

[bronze flax]

Would skreg behind twins be better positioning or does it matter

[umbral nymph]

Skreg being behind twins is optimal on normal pvp but your twins are L+

They will just die lol

Maybe its better for lucretia

Pseudo luc cheese

[bronze flax]

I mean, Desira helps with their survival in getting an ult off; I usually win with skreg and lucre alive in most matchups

[umbral nymph]

But Desira isnt in your cycle

Is on team 1

[bronze flax]

I mean When I do more 5 teams in like HoE, desira goes in cycle cuz I use skreg in invade

[umbral nymph]

[bronze flax]

What's optimal placement for alna GB?

[zinc canyon]

i like oden behind alna, then its either silas or fereal mid

i like fereal on 3 or 5 cause he will go mid after he ults

[umbral nymph]

I like Athalia on top corner

[zinc canyon]

silas being 3 or 5 can also work similarly since he moves when he ults, i do find, if you are using oden, never place him mid, feels too exposed as far as my experience with it

but since silas has heal, pos 4 can work counter to that exposure.

daimon also a 3 or 5

[bronze flax]

So alna grezh Oden Silas fera works fine?

[zinc canyon]

yes, not sure how it factors with investment ,but in my experience, maybe daimon > fereal depending how fancy he is, recommend you to try it

[bronze flax]

My fera is 209, daimon 213, so

[zinc canyon]

id guess fereal then

[indigo epoch]

Win% might increase for all teams at next division, because larger pool of teams, might face first-second-third string less and more makeshift/budget comps.

Maybe not at first, but as more people cross 4k points I think that'll probably happen.

[steep igloo]

I don't get this event. My mauler team should have the lowest win rate

[warped sundial]

why are you also running that

is that suddenly meta

[steep igloo]

Is someone else running it? My arena team has always been Tidus Thesku Kren Zolrath. Normally have Athalia but swapped her into my GB team for this

[warped sundial]

roxta up there is also running zolrath maulers

oh wait he didn't post in this channel it's in the general chat

no mishka though, it's just zolrath + maulers

[steep igloo]

It works surprisingly well, probably just all the e60s tho. Thesku is very high burst damage at the beginning and stops Lucretcia and Ainz normally. Zolrath is always the last to die so I get a 2nd chance if they lose

Thesku also attacks the person with the highest atk, so Tidus will jump on them too after his knockback into Krens bombs

[warped sundial]

engravings are crazy af in this mode because of the zone buffs and also because engravings are insanely impactful in the first place

still interesting to see it doing so well though

roxsta's looked to be a decent win rate too

[dense lava]

It looks like a random bullshit go team but with engravings.

[warped sundial]

wait is it just me, or does this mode keep defaulting to old comps

i KNOW i reset comps like 5 hours ago, but it's using old comps again

[zinc canyon]

maybe you didn't save ?

you have to go to the last comp to save all the changes

[warped sundial]

i did

i know i did cause i changed 4 and 5th comp

and saved after 5th

and checked after, too

[zinc canyon]

im using the comps i changed earlier...

weird that it defaulted to previous for you(?)

[wise lion]

It defaulted on me previous days. Rly annoying

But today I was fine

[slim veldt]

[nocturne token]

if you change your 5 teams for the next division AFTER scramble start even though you are not in that division yet ( still <4k points when you make changes), will still use old teams. If you change before scramble starts and still not saved then idk

[warped sundial]

it was 1 hour before reset ._.

[nocturne token]

then probably

skill issue

[warped sundial]

[nocturne token]

i changed comps like 5 mins before scramble started and still applied

[warped sundial]

i KNOW i double checked and it was there

[wise lion]

as did I

[warped sundial]

you double checked my comps...?

[nocturne token]

fish has many followers

[warped sundial]

dude they keep coming and i don't know why

[nocturne token]

you did CR early

[warped sundial]

but who goes down ranks to follow some random ass person at 180

and only there for like, an hour

[nocturne token]

there are million people, can happens

or you just dm them to ask

"what are you up to"

[zinc canyon]

it is also true some people likely moved to next division, stronger players.

[shut vessel]

So guys

If you lose all 5 fights

You lose 10 points

[zinc canyon]

thats a lot of points

do you lose any points if its 2 W - 3 L ? and how many

[warped sundial]

pretty sure it depends on who you're losing to

then again i don't know, i don't really watch fights all day

i know you win different points against different ranks tho

[shut vessel]

I normally don't check

It's such a fucking annoying game mode

[warped sundial]

i'm kind of annoyed my comps didn't save yesterday even though i'm pretty sure i saved it but

otherwise it's pretty chill so i don't mind it

did my experiment day, got 4% win rate from it

other days it goes up and down

fairly annoying when you get faced with 5 e80 ainz comps in a row but oh well, such be rng

[limpid horizon]

Can u demote in the event?

[nocturne token]

yes

[shut vessel]

What are people using for their 6th team

[warped sundial]

i might actually end up as that person at rank 21

oml

[hasty canyon]

Lmao

[void raven]

time to find good teams for the upcoming ranks

oh i can do bursts i forgot lle

[zinc canyon]

not sure what a good team 5 would be

[rich badger]

Advice on team 2 and 4

[zinc canyon]

pull ezio is also mildly interesting, skriath ezio safiya eiron lorsan

[indigo epoch]

My mauler invade was terrible lol. Finished at 9%.

Luc cycle, Ainz and GB got a winrate boost though

[zinc canyon]

decided on 5th team with pull ezio, i think it was okay % wise, not sure about team 3 yet, no test.

[olive kestrel]

Is it me or is the reward for this event pretty terrible?

[frail bolt]

what should i change?

[indigo epoch]

Not the best, not the worst. There's daily rewards + weekly rewards. If you place top 100 2x that's 6k diamonds, 60 silver/purple emblem boxes, 24 red emblems, small amount of cores/shards/poe, and 2 T3s.

[olive kestrel]

Welp, not even close to that

[hasty canyon]

Yeah they suck, Im most likely stopping at 5k IF I get lucky.
No SG or ToT cards, no red chests.
There are red cores, but that is for whales only

[civic sage]

There are red chests

[hasty canyon]

yeah, one has to be top 2% or more to get 10 of them

[civic sage]

Well I mean I don’t really get how ppl can complain about free rewards 🤷‍♂️

[mortal halo]

By scoring top 20, you get a T4 chest

Op

[desert spade]

One QoL change that Treasure Scramble needs is copying teams from previous divisions so you'd only need to add one team.

[sly anchor]

nice

[wise lion]

Nice

[still heron]

Lol im also ranked 69

[shut vessel]

66% wr today

Good start

[zinc canyon]

ainz is 100% so far, gb 72

team 3 and 5 are a bit worrying

its inevitable honestly, vs proper burst ainz or gb...but other teams, well as more fights are done bigger sample on vs who

[nocturne token]

what region is that

[zinc canyon]

22

complicated region probably

[nocturne token]

dont really feel that complicated with 100% ainz

[zinc canyon]

more about the other teams, ainz will lose eventually when i get matched vs better ainz or or treznor ainz

[warped sundial]

rip, my 5th team is too meme for this world

[zinc canyon]

how much % ?

[warped sundial]

31%

dropped again

[zinc canyon]

not the worst, above 60 % overall ?

[warped sundial]

57%

[zinc canyon]

struggle is real

[nocturne token]

im making progress if overall is >50% in my region

60% is a dream

[warped sundial]

i'm still gaining points more than losing, i think, so it's going

not going fast, but it's going

my meme is basically exclusively winning against stall comp

[nocturne token]

at least it can win some

not much but, some

[zinc canyon]

if i can keep 56%, its not too bad

[indigo epoch]

LDV seems good in this mode

His cannon just wrecks teams

[zinc canyon]

with who tho?

[lusty jungle]

[indigo epoch]

I saw some ldv/raku/arthur/lyca comp with good win% posted here

But im using arthur in ainz and lyca with scarlet, so gonna try just ldv/raku + whatever

[zinc canyon]

might try this next reset

yea arthur and lyca already in use so

[warped sundial]

sometimes lucky

trash comp memeing it out here

[shut vessel]

what kinda team is that

[nocturne token]

5 pull into 5 charmed into 5 luc cheese

[teal ferry]

@nocturne token
2 Luc Cycle
2 AGB
2 Mishka GB
1 noob comp

My highest WR idk why

[nocturne token]

Damn i forgot what i asked

[teal ferry]

What Burst won against

[nocturne token]

Thats right! Thanks a lot levi

[teal ferry]

[umbral nymph]

[umbral nymph]

Ldv raku and whatever almost works

[dense lava]

Do relics matter for this game mode?

[main abyss]

if you mean artifacts then no

[zinc canyon]

looks somewhat interesting 👀 might try it

these 4 did okay, team 5 was 11%

[indigo epoch]

Ezio will probably work good with ldv/raku, but I havent garrisoned him yet.

[warped sundial]

top half of leaderboard will be going to next zone today

win rate might improve from that, ranking won't really change though

[zinc canyon]

maybe this

[indigo epoch]

I'm trying hodgkin as a lyca replacement

[umbral nymph]

@zinc canyon i would always put brutus in front of raku so he is half protected

[zinc canyon]

well thought, thank you

[umbral nymph]

[zinc canyon]

hopefully this is good, albeit unlikely to reach next division on the upcoming scramble.

[umbral nymph]

PoP and raku have good synergy this comp was very used on one HoE iteration

Is not meta at all

But it can do some work for sure

[zinc canyon]

i do have pop

not sure if preferable over ezio

feel like assassinate could be key on some fights

[umbral nymph]

With scramble buff im not sure either

The only think i know is that engraved shit can win vs non engrave meta stuff

[warped sundial]

for this mode especially yeah

[warped sundial]

....5 grez alna in a row

ok

[nocturne token]

@warped sundial i met the same shit as you

that game decided to change my team

i never put astar to alna team even in my wildest dreams but well, here they are

[warped sundial]

so maybe i'm not crazy

rip u today

[nocturne token]

its okay that the 5th

where backline supposed to die

but astar too tanky

rip

[warped sundial]

mine was a bad 5th comp turned slightly worse too so it didnt' affect me THAT much probably, but it still might have

i'll never know for sure how much it affected

[warped sundial]

huh, my region is one of the first to have a 5k point dude

[nocturne token]

mine get 1 yesterday

[warped sundial]

huh op

[acoustic canyon]

started to count yesterday how many there were, and I only went up to region 25, and there were 14 ppl already

[warped sundial]

25+ has a decent amount of 5k now

23 and below i think we're the only one, didn't check all

did people drop or something lol

[zinc canyon]

region 22 there is only 1 with 5k+, jogdan

13 battles, 66%, it looks good so far

[indigo epoch]

Your ldv/raku comp?

[zinc canyon]

Good! so far

ainz is 88

swapped brutus and ezio spot, compared to earlier screenshot

incase you didn't notice

[indigo epoch]

Mine is pretty garbo. I think because no ezio and only 09e36 ldv.

[zinc canyon]

lean suggested it

[zinc canyon]

same as ? using pop instead of ezio?

eiron pull, from the replay fights, really is key on who is pulling.

it loses vs and

[indigo epoch]

Im not sure if i should try 09 pop

I made adjustments to both scarlet and raku for tomorrow, maybe itll work

[zinc canyon]

can only try, if its too low, might as well

i dont think ill move these 5 teams if it keeps going like this

[sinful igloo]

[silent oxide]

hmm...my raku ldv set is only 22%, but i dont have Eiroon or brutus

[zinc canyon]

both important on their own

[summer epoch]

It's extremely funny to me that this comp ended up working

[haughty jasper]

@.@ what’s the win rate?

[summer epoch]

Around 75%. With Rowan it's appr. 80%

[haughty jasper]

wow nice stuff 👍

[summer epoch]

I'm getting to a higher % now though so it'll probably drop

[warped sundial]

when in doubt, whale a whole ass hero

[zinc canyon]

AAA melrin mortas got 71 %

it started good, but got matched into some hardfights later

[lofty silo]

it's so hard to figure out teams in this mode lol

[red apex]

Copied this from a taiwanese guide and it helped me reach top 70.

[lofty silo]

I'm sure the meta is very different between the different regions

[zinc canyon]

hmm, good comps will do well overall tho, regardless, if you have the heroes for it

in any case at this pace, i dont think ill get 5k points next scramble either

only got 305 points compared to previous day

[indigo epoch]

That sucks! Ldv/Raku/Ezio looked promising yday.

56% overall is still good though

[bitter plank]

got any ideas on improving the last 2?

[sick patio]

show me what u got

@bitter plank

[sick patio]

I didn't mean that way...

just go to that event and show me what you got to spare for 2 last squads

because I'm not good at memorising stuff xD
even tho screens are near ech other

[bitter plank]

it doesnt show many heroes in the formation making screen

id need a lot of screenshots

[sick patio]

do u have awaken thalene?

[bitter plank]

nope

well yes but only L+

[sick patio]

she is still good to go hah, put her in backline with some healing + some dps

you can use mishka and belinda with lucius

[bitter plank]

alrigjt thanks

[sick patio]

the most important thing to have is at least 1 healing source per squad

[void raven]

lel i m currently at 4997 points

[bleak junco]

[zinc canyon]

team 6 0%

[desert spade]

It feels like there isn't enough time for everyone to get into the last division of Treasure Scramble.

Either it needs to be made longer, or buff the increase.

[zinc canyon]

you feel it right, there isn't the point gain several falls down the more teams, you might also lose more often due to the amount of teams

[shut vessel]

So... I think most people won't get the rewards from last division

Maybe only 1 from my region will

[candid wing]

I only just now see the special hero effects. So are these the same for everyone? Will they be the same tomorrow since team changes only even take effect the next day. This event has me very confused. I just even randomly chose a path cause I couldn’t figure out what what even different about them.

[shut vessel]

It just means when you fight against a team with brutus you've won all your fights

[candid wing]

Oh.

Ok

Well this mode still just makes no sense. But i am on the second to last area

I am sure i could be doing worse, i am terrible at pvp modes.

[gusty valley]

I don't think "everybody" was meant to get to the last area, but it would appear rather few will. (Also, doesn't really matter, rewards for the areas are nothing. What possibly matters is placement on leaderbord, rewards-wise.)

Also. This event feels SOOOOOO random. Placement varies probably more due to how your teams are paired up against what opponent and what team, than your actual total team power, especially since each team faces a different opponent.

[teal ferry]

For some reason Eironn Burst remains as the most successful comp throughout the entire event

70%+ everytime

[zinc canyon]

probably due to this, if stacked it works

[teal ferry]

Ohh that's pretty cool

[zinc canyon]

also why pulls do so well in general

[umbral nymph]

At least event will finish without making us do a 7th team

Because ik that team will have like 10% lol

[low iron]

Somehow still top 100 in my region but getting closer to 7 teams and running hilariously low on available heroes.

[wintry fulcrum]

7 teams is horrifying

[zinc canyon]

mauler 👀

[warped sundial]

are you actually getting there

most of us aren't

[nocturne token]

my region has 1 guy reach it

get a +1 for winning 6 fights

[warped sundial]

it's 6k? if it is we have 2

the rest are faaaaaar

[nocturne token]

get a +0 for winning 5/7

since hes so far ahead

[shut vessel]

I'm not reaching it

[nocturne token]

same

[formal yarrow]

Not sure how they tried to balance this game mode, here is what I got with my wilder account

[bronze flax]

Mishka good this mode lmao

[hasty canyon]

Is team 5 outdated or are my heroes that bad?

[zinc canyon]

cheese is bad for this game mode

[warped sundial]

38% is acceptable for a 5th comp tbh

my 5th is 39% my 6th is 17%, landed at 10th place unless there are unfinished battles

[zinc canyon]

i setup thoran cheese 6th again

got a 12% with something random

[warped sundial]

5th only needs to wins against other 5th+6th, 6th only needs to win against other peoples’s 6th

[indigo epoch]

Idk much about pvp, but I heard stall became weaker with engravings. Burst can beat it, etc. In this mode theres also a big dmg buff.

[indigo epoch]

I clawed my way back into top 100 last day lol. Feelsgoodman

[zinc canyon]

nice

[warped sundial]

i landed top 10 by exactly 2 points for the first time last day :3

rank's been a slide, started at 4% first day gone through 2% to 70's to 30's to a couple day of 15's

[bronze flax]

I like to think I do pretty good

just a few point off top 100, with my box of all things

[warped sundial]

lol 94 to 98 rank have same score

[umbral nymph]

Oh i was so close

[hasty canyon]

I liked this event, very original and fun. Might make me focus on pvp moee

[umbral nymph]

@hasty canyon we will make it next time

[hasty canyon]

the power of friendship vs the whales!

[umbral nymph]

[wise lion]

🇫

@hasty canyon @umbral nymph 🤝

[red apex]

Last day was so wild. I was in top 62 at the start of the day and got kick out of top 100 mid day. Go to sleep and wake up to be in top 100 again when the event concluded. Lol

I think it's time for me to invest ee on pvp oriented heroes.

Ee is so important in this mode

[lofty silo]

Damn, so close yet so far

[formal yarrow]

I am hoping this become a permanent game mode like CR

[nocturne token]

not bad rewards for basically no effort, yeah

[zinc canyon]

dont really mind if they wiped every 2 weeks and restart again has a permanent event

[shut vessel]

They need to make the formation section easier

[acoustic canyon]

Yeah, having the existing formations carry over and just add the new one would be a very appreciated qol

[shut vessel]

Just being able to switch formations

[teal ferry]

Pretty average all around

[nocturne token]

100%

[gilded spire]

[frozen crest]

[warped sundial]

[lusty jungle]

[boreal bison]

[gleaming mica]

Hi

[candid wing]

Does it matter which path you choose?

[sacred notch]

Iirc no it doesn't

[sacred notch]

Make sure y'all set teams soon, supposed to start in an hour

[shell jungle]

Cap

[formal yarrow]

Teams are by default the ones you had on the last run so you just need to choose a path and adjust if needed

[sacred notch]

Istg I checked it said like 1h and sum minutes, maybe I was mistaken 😂

[shell jungle]

Nah it did, it just has a stupid timer

Happened last time too

[sacred notch]

Ahh so I'm not crazy

[warped sundial]

today, but actually tomorrow

[nocturne token]

yes u

[warped sundial]

[topaz quartz]

What is the point of the 3 different paths?

[warped sundial]

they group several close by servers together then split by path

server 300-310 might be put in one group, then divided by 3 paths again

[nocturne token]

@warped sundial im suspecting those who choose the same path wont fight each other

not otherwise

[warped sundial]

idk, people who just clicked the middle path had really busy regions last time

[teal ferry]

Yeah

:(

Hopefully the right path is easier

[shut vessel]

I went right

[wise lion]

I was 9 pts off t100 last time. Really hope I get in this time

[sacred notch]

I think I finished a bit over 5k. I got screwed by the auto team placing thing and realized too late

[formal aspen]

they make the paths roughly even by shutting them off from being chosen once they get too full

if you choose a path at the last minute you have only one choice, or at least you did last time

[haughty jasper]

i went center :S

[shut vessel]

Good

[main abyss]

yeah i wouldnt want to steal pts from you guys

[haughty jasper]

-.-

[topaz quartz]

I went right, you should have an easy time

[zinc canyon]

chose center

[dusk tundra]

Is there any advantage disadvantage of choosing the path?

[frozen crest]

.

you wont know what kind of players chooses what path, so choosing a right path is rng

[proper basin]

Yo

[patent gulch]

What is being used for teams?

[zinc canyon]

ainz, alna, zol burst, scarlet team (varies a lot)

[patent gulch]

Hmm… that doesn’t help too much lol.

Zol Burst? What exactly does that consist of?

[zinc canyon]

ignore 5 7 8

depends a lot, can be zol mishka lyca zaph haelus, eiron saurus zol lyca lorsan.

[patent gulch]

Hmmm… AThane fine in that team?

[lofty zealot]

athane can fit into most teams

[zinc canyon]

athane is probably good with (2) maybe 1 as well

[patent gulch]

Also how good is that Hf1 you’d say…

[lofty zealot]

for pvp? not

[patent gulch]

Yea. This is all for treasure scramble

[zinc canyon]

HF 1 ignore, just look at the pvp, the rest is for other events, not a good reference

[lofty zealot]

yes, this is for treasure scramble, but you asked about a team literally labeled hunting field 1

[patent gulch]

Ah lol. Be honest. HF didn’t click lol

So could you give me a Scambl3 AThane comp example? If you don’t have him just use normal thane I’ll get the point

How did a 3 end up there… man my mind is going…

[zinc canyon]

dunno about athane, here is 2 others i did and kept, 10 was low, worst of all around 20~40%

[patent gulch]

So 9 did good then?

[zinc canyon]

yes, probably best iteration of scarlet

last scramble

[patent gulch]

Same debuff this one… so I imagine it will be very similar

[zinc canyon]

usually around 70ish

[lofty zealot]

athane burst is like zol mishka athane lyca zaph

[patent gulch]

Okay! This is what I’m looking for. Is it good in treasure?

W/ that team in mind. Would these make 3 good starters? Any changes? I maybe thought Oden over Ferael.

Ignore names…

[shut vessel]

Team 2 with athane

And burst with haelus

[patent gulch]

Replacing who?

@shut vessel

[lofty zealot]

grez

[patent gulch]

Like so?

[shut vessel]

Yea looks ok

Run team 2 and 3

[patent gulch]

Then 123 next rank. Got it.

Is there a Scarlet team that doesn’t use any of them?

How is scarlet in cycle in treasure?

[lofty zealot]

Pretty shitty in my experience

[patent gulch]

Gotcha…

[candid wing]

Mine still says starting in 24 hours. Is that what everyone’s says

[lofty zealot]

it did but it's started now

[candid wing]

Mine still says this

[sacred notch]

Iirc from last time. The timer was initially 2 days. Makes sense because new stuff usually starts on Tuesday/thurs

[lofty zealot]

i'm guessing it'll just say that until you find your first match

some people are taking longer to matchmake

[sacred notch]

Ahh ye I'm in

[patent gulch]

Gotta love just double slapping Ainz.

[shut vessel]

team worked out ok then?

[warped sundial]

people are already fighting meta teams?

i'm still fighting random af enemies

sample

sample 2

[sacred notch]

Only meta teams I've seen is Ainz pretty much

[warped sundial]

i didn't exactly look through all of them, but most recent 5 * 2 battles didn't have ainz

nvm i lied just got another battle and it was both ainz lol

making up for lost matchups

[nocturne token]

but have you fought e80 shemira?

[warped sundial]

no, only e60

[nocturne token]

i got both top 1 and top 2 last season in my route

[warped sundial]

ha u xd

i only spot one CR 91 rank in my region so far

oh and a KBR guy hiding behind R9 No. 46 banner

[shut vessel]

I avoided robo

I went right path

[warped sundial]

i mean i'm sure a couple more would come up as time goes on

plus the people who don't have CR heroes but go all in on pvp engravings

[candid wing]

I am just hoping i finish the whole thing this time. I don’t even know what my team 3 should be

[warped sundial]

finish the whole thing........?

finish...which part?

[candid wing]

The path

[shut vessel]

There's no finish

It's permanent

[candid wing]

Oh

It’s not seasons

[warped sundial]

bruh, last time like less than 200 people "finished"

total

like 2 per region, some regions only had 1

[candid wing]

Oh

[shut vessel]

There's seasons

[warped sundial]

they changed scoring tho so who knows how many will this run

[candid wing]

I see

[patent gulch]

Yea im fighting meta already lol

Although can you call someone as weak as Ainz meta

[patent gulch]

Amazingly

As you can see

I looked at the other top competitors. They don’t stand a chance

[shut vessel]

what are they using?

[patent gulch]

Nothing extraordinary

[candid wing]

Everyone seems to be using A thane

[patent gulch]

Boring stuff like this

I’m region 4. If ya wanna peek around

There are some… but not many lol

[candid wing]

Where does it say my region?

[patent gulch]

More actually everyone wants to be running it. It’s freaken amazing.

[sacred notch]

Sheesh mythic skriath 😱

[patent gulch]

Leaderboard at the top

Yea Just look at the left teams.

[shut vessel]

yea athane is crazy good in pvp

[patent gulch]

That’s who matters lol

[shut vessel]

haelus burst is working surprisingly well too

[candid wing]

I am region 7

I don’t have athane or haelus

[patent gulch]

Very

[candid wing]

Oh well. I just have my ainz

[patent gulch]

Im going on a completely alternate path for 4 teams+

[shut vessel]

id probably do alna luc

[patent gulch]

Good idea!

Thanks for that catch

[frozen crest]

any ideas on improving my budget ainz comp?

also i forgot to put in rowan in either comp

[shut vessel]

you need the min investment first..

ainz make him 309

[frozen crest]

lacking 2 cards, and no reds, poured them on bedo xD

so my investments just suck no? ill have raku as 2nd team first then

[shut vessel]

yep, unfortunately you'll do pretty poolry in these events as an early game player simply because you dont have the heroes

[midnight dragon]

Good morning
can someone tell me what i have to do to unlock the trade cross completely in the game

[warped sundial]

wat

[nocturne token]

wtf is temporary role?

[warped sundial]

apparently people who haven't been auto-verified

[limpid horizon]

Hmm i always thought ainz + mortas is the best ainz variation but it has lower winrate than standard alna gb

[nocturne token]

first, best ainz variation doesnt mean it would win against other comps

second, thats not best ainz variation

[warped sundial]

also this is burst land that mortas looks dead af

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anyone feels fightings taking too long?

last season was not this slow until more teams

~8 hrs for <50 2-team fights

[zinc canyon]

its slower than last time, i think

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its like the speed of fighting with 6 teams last time