#treasure-scramble
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Uh if you keep pulling regular you'll end up with way more fodders than the actual hero copies, it means you're not pulling enough
gotta get more scrolls somehow i suppose
What do you mean diamonds is off limits
Two people, one hoard diamond (even to millions), refusing to pull for meta, another actually will and have less diamond, at the end of the day the one who hoarded lose and keep losing, yes I'm mirroring this to certain someone
no no i use my diamonds for pulls im also running low there
He’s talking about hat for anyone following along 
We’re about to get another dragon, so save your diamonds and pulls and hopefully when you pull for him/her you can also finish sion
bro we just got one wtf i have nothing left 😭😭
That’s how most ppl feel, way too soon for another dragolyte release, but they did it anyway
@civic badger what rank did you get
Is that better than before
Avg time between dragolite releases this year was ~12 weeks (Tavriel was 8wk gap vs Begris being 15wk)
Not really
new ppl
Wasn't Hat always 5% back then
@trail depot master chef, what we thinking #classic-questions message
Lmao
Aight, answered
brenn is a mean guy
It is he never responded



I respond all the time. 
I told you all back then and I still go by what I said - Hat is not worth the effort to try to help, at all
@civic badger my advice is to have around 7 good teams and make sure they are set when ts starts 👍

The most obvious way would be to join a prominent guild like Nihi or Floofs but you know, refusal out of pride and sheer arrogance
Hi. Who would make a greater impact in TS: Afawkes or Chicken?
Assuming all prio wokes and dracs built except Aluc, Gavus, Levi, and Maetria
dont forget to join ts calc soon 
I was like WTH flaws back with 2 accs ? 
Make me teams please 😂
I can help with that. What’s your current results and hero box
good ol days lol
same
i wanted to find logs of when we all dipped and found that instead
Tyty, I could use some 1st calc teams
I have most things except Skylan , gavus, and possibly missing invests. Top 1%
Nice, and how’s your current results/rank?
Top 1% but I’m totally out of the meta lmao
Estrilda e60 pretty safe imo
wow
Hmm, thinking I’ll save my remaining cores for double dims. I could probably use some emblems tho if there’s a good spot for them
You have a few options, possibly Seren, kfc, or sjw si40. But I’m not as much an expert in this area so I’ll leave it to others. I’ll draft you 3t-5t tho. Think you have a great box for it.
brenn never gives me help 🤔
Hell yeah, those will probably be useful for all the other rotations for the next month 
Afawkes estrilda SP. lmk if there’s anything you think I might be overlooking.
KFC instead of gavus at 4t*. I caught that late.
Sweet! Thanks a lot. Some of those teams I’ve never seen before , metas changed quite a bit heh
For sure, for the 3t set up the ashem and seal comps should basically be BiS so it should do pretty well. Lmk how it goes!
Will do! Hope this elthara person is nearly as good as Skylan in ts
Tough call, but from the ppl that have built her most of have been pretty happy with her. Tho there’s something to be said that she still seems really good at legendary or mythic
brenn is a mean guy
Fawkes actually blows the chicken out of water, he can reinforce two of the meta teams strongly
Aye copy that, thx!
ah i forgot to set up team
Analytica



Maybe Ob Nihilum
Oh, I've heard some nice things about them. Looks like a nice option for not-too-comp players 

How’s it going so far
bad proxy dont mislead ppl
Really good, thanks to you! 
If 5t holds, I may even end top 20
no one gives me ts help 🤔
Awesome! Glad to hear that.
I did well! Just outside of t20. Thanks again Brennan
Ahh damn! Decent results, surprised the ashem and Zohra didn’t do better tbh.
Could you try something for me? Swap afawkes and elthara.
Is chessmaster Knox? Could do that too
Knox dies pretty fast in seal this debuff
Lysander lol
Oh haha. Yea you could do that. Lysander with elthara should be pretty good tho
Yes
Yayyy nicely done !!
What region are you? I can take a look at your collections
Usually if a team underperforms it has to do with colls or possibly tree issues
(Tank should be kept as high as mage supp and ranger with warrior lower than the others)
Yeah I was resending these. They’re the all equally kinda bad colls I have to work with for askriath, fawkes, seren, zoh
You’re probably right bout the tank tree lol
R47…
Omg…you absolutely need to bring tank tree back up after doing NC. 
You can fish for a good attack one doing blue runs or use some totems for it.
Yup I’ve been for a few months but no luck going about f2p colls so far xD
Ah, unfortunate. These are the ones I got.
Dang they’re good. That’s pretty much what I’m going for.
Yea the +2 effect isn’t necessary. +1 good enough or even +0 with good stats
good to know!
Update - went down 9 ranks. I thought I updated tree in time but it doesn’t seem like it. Going back to previous teams and trying mira. Needless to say, I appreciate your help @trail depot 
i never get ts help 😠
you didnt ping me
i got 7% this calc
Anytime, hopefully you see a good boost this round!
Can someone make me 7 teams plz ♥️
try to make 5 and have poop for your other two 👍
Bl4ckFr4p and Farara's first TS guide together. Hope it helps.
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1pwgq3e/treasure_scramble_forest_debuff_7_teams/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Hell yeah. Thanks farara, I copied the nonskylan one for 7t.

copy the guide farara sent above
the non skylan version
and tell me which heroes you're missing
cant access that guide
its on reddit
where
because no one wants to take the time to look through carefully and tell you what to do
when you can read what to do yourself
we used to be cool
Any changes also i still have palmer, naroko,talimar (30360),tamrus,randle,athalia,vei,selene (20230),rim and levi
yes many
follow the reddit guide
your team 1, 2, 5, 6, 7 sucks
gimme sugeestions lol
Copy the guide
I already told you
And tell me the heroes you're missing
thanks for not giving me help
If you copy the guide
You can get 4%
The teams I'll tell you are from the guide anyway
i hope to get some help next time
I gave you help
Hat we used to be cool
yeah but back then you gave me actual help
i was giving you actual help
what do you want me to do? type out the exact same comps for you
We used to be cool hat
Help is in the guide
I helped test some of the comps
So next time just follow the guide
peak new high, did not expect this with no ashem, deamia or aurelia
Your guide got me my first t20 in many many months

Pogs congrats!!!
Well deserved!
Thanks, you’re the best 
Nou 
kraken much
Why did you send a video if you didn't collect the rewards
i already did
why not just ss it
my phone cant ss

lol do you have a nokia


I call BS
https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/1q36z72/treasure_scramble_blizzard_debuff_4t/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Good Luck have fun~
is there a way to do the zohra ts team without zohra
no
like using hild, shall, melion, lysander but not zohra because who has the cards for zohra in this day and age
maybe if you have Elth instead 
Zoh burst is one of the weaker current meta teams anyway
Is there a replacement for AFawkes and if you use Liberta as sub in team 5 should you use Lucilla instead of Alvida?
generally si40 alvida will be better than lucilla
You could replace him with mira or liberta but it would be very suboptimal
And yes alvida is better than lucillla grumble is right
Time to lock in fellas

thoughts? could swap jerome for gorren still, or even give gorren e30
Imo put treat on sion and IC on envy comp. And swap shuna and liberta. Also panda on team 5 should be better
ohh yes absolutely agree on the pets
what does lib do in the ashem comp, just ero damage so sjw can kill?
It’s more so that sion comp needs more help from shuna imo
logical!
btw this team looked interesting, didn’t think marci would do much
Oh nice, looks that can work better in older regions
I placed 4th, 6th, and 19th across my accounts. Not too shabby. 
nice! i got t100 again, but 93 which is not what i expected
though i thought these teams would do better
come to r2 boi
wait you’re ch54 in r2
i thought you had one r2 acc relatively abandoned and then another one
whoops
Missing Skylan 
They're all on R2 by the way, get rekt @civic badger you poser
yu have 4 accs?
@placid vector No those are four of main's friends who all happen to be in R2
Ohhh
my teams are just not cutting it anymore, barely at 95 rn and i feel like i gotta change something drastically for 6/7t
@trail depot any ideas?
Swap estrilda and Misha
On my older account?
Current plan for older account.
And my current results. 
i’m trying this first for 6t
curious if elth can fill the erosion role in that comp
Yea this debuff in particular she’s still BiS at 1 copy
Do you have 1 copy asaf?
Not a bad plan. 👍
Hmm... Who should I slot into the Maetria team? 
Shall & Zohra are e60, but Melion & Hild are only e30..
I can grab an L Maetria but.....
I've seen people in my region using Tamrus, L Mae, or swapping AFawkes in.
Thoughts?
Can try leg Maetria or Emilia imo
Or Gorok actually if you have him
Also try flora instead of Aurelia. It’s good
that i do
will also try that!
and does flora need invest at all?
I was thinking you can see how it goes first with asaf in that lan daemia comp and use elthara in your Aurelia Aathalia comp
yess, i have both options lined up
also gonna try a shitty lib marci 6th team with 5 stronger teams to see if that does anything, it’s what most people in my region use
For seal team she does not need investment for being a staller team, but every bit of investment counts because sometimes if she can also kill the enemy team, your win rate shall go up
is she just stall in the lys watha team too? seems like a strange spot
Yes, can’t kill her so haste debuff, a bit of dmg, and survives a bit longer so can normally beat mirror pony match ups
it’s okay, seal stocks have never been higher but the lys watha panda comp is still disappointing as ever
the sneaky marci doesn’t seem to change or add much
she matches envy’s damage most rounds, and adds a cheat death so i think its not a bad idea
but the team is really quite weak in total now so i’m unsure
Try treat on asaf, pony on ashem and owl on alna comp
Albedo is mostly useful with si30, so you can do a different hero in place of her
she gives 20% defense!! no but that’s true, i’ll do someone else
should i swap a strong hero from sion to envy? like misha or westra
doesn’t really seem like a good option eather
but i’m in percent atm 
Try swapping elthara and liberta. And hopefully the pet changes will give your teams a boost
seal team has literally gone up 30-40 percent from getting L fawkes and elth but the rest is in the dumpster
not unhappy with the ashem either, it seems like it did okay but just not good enough
could put shuna with ashem instead, and put something else behind sion
usually that ashem team gets like 85-90%, but i guess it is frost debuff
ill swap elth to watha, lib to ashem and put talent in seal
also got treat to 12 maybe that’ll help a bit
That sounds promising
looking for ts advice
clutched up!!
still lookin for advice
where’s your sjw?
if you get him at 20360 at least in your ashem that’d help tons
T7
Looks promising. 
Use pony for ashem, owl for sion and treat for asaf comp

Still lookin
tried it two rounds, doesn’t seem to improve any of the comps
pony is only level 9, no panda on the watha comp took it down like 10%
scared to try again
I see, okay nvm then. Good luck!
My suggestions doesn’t affect your Aathalia comp?
i gave you teams
do you want me to type them out?
fine
alna sion asaf melion lan treat
aestrilda misha begris velu envy trick
ashem levi sjw cha jerome owl
whoran talene mira knox flora seal
alvida aathalia afawkes lys gavus pony
wei albedo wyca shuna rem IC
mae shaltear hildwin emi zohra panda
if you want feedback on your teams, your team 2, 3, 4, 6, 7 suck
uhh sorry, bad wording
having panda on watha seems to be needed to increase it by like 20%
but the rest seemed to work well!
Yes keep panda on Aathalia, but you can put pony on ashem, owl in sion and test on asaf comp, it should work well
im giving you it but you keep ignoring me
you have those heroes i've seen your box
hat sucks
i dont have them
who
on it chef 🫡
lys works at E
instead of begris use gorren
You do need alvida si40 if you want to do well in TS tho
instead of velu use dae
just use whatever alvida you have
instead of cha use selene
instead of fawkes use gorok
also @civic badger u suck
u suck
no u suck
u not me
no not me, u
we're not whales like u
yeah, we're not krakens like u
i'm am a f2p unlike u
im more f2p than you
nope
yup
lies
liar
you're the liar
no u
u
u 2
we used to be cool
yeah we used to be cool
i dont know what happened
kraken much
wow
?
no clue i just say things
got #90 🙏
Awesome, glad to hear that!
How’d you do?
Thanks. 
This was my 6 teams this season, what can i improve and what can i do for 7t?
Im on region52 and my best was 5%
I was not home i forgot to do 7t again and i just dropped from 3% to 14% ffs
I've said many many times it's futile to try to save @civic badger of all things, this place is better without one
why everyone setting teams so late?
You had up to 12 hours after each round to setup for next round, not doing it especially on a weekend? That's all on you
It's actually worse, it means your teams from last time were terrible and didn't hold out, if they did you wouldn't drop so much
because its hard to find advice
for early players, teams from 2 months ago are always poop because you have new heroes
That’s true for every region tho, very rare that you can just coast on the same teams from 2 months ago.
2 months ago i didnt even have 7 teams
same
Wait so that means... They just randomly assigned you with whatever that probably gave you under 10% win rate or something 
No idea but last time i checked my team 6 and 7 was under 10 right before the ts finished
And my team 1 to 5 was not even the same with what i had in 5t that season
I probably didnt save smth or what idk
No
What happens is the teams you set last time at the same debuff will be what shows up for you this time around as well, until you change
Oh shoot
So obviously your 5-7 teams will look different to last round two weeks ago
I was like why im always changing teams every single time
They save teams for each debuff separately
So when you get another next round which should be the new debuff of extra health, that gets pulled, and you have to change it
Oh okey thank you
The next TS starts soon and my server is pretty new around 1 month I feel like I could be higher then top 45% but I have no idea on teams
Thoughts on this for ts?
Which path should I choose?(new player). Can you explain with simple words, english is not my 1st language 🙂
Paths dont really matter you can pick any of them
all paths lead to rome
it does not matter which path you choose, you will just go against other players that choose that path
Oh got it, thanks to everyone
@trail depot hi 😭
Replace Jerome with Estrilda and try treat instead of panda.
If you have alvida si40 then you could also try a stronger Zohra lysander skylan comp.
Nice
do i use estrlida sp or lucius?
Estrilda
In case you haven’t seen this
👍
how do i make the randle comp work?
Swap Knox and shuna
thank you, should i swap pets as well?
You can do pony or IC for team 3
@thin ermine Stop making me lose ranks 
People should not be smarter than they were

man ive heard of this somewhere. and they were serious abt trying to force a stop on me posting guides 
tyyy for the compliment on the guide. glad its good
team 5 is fucked up what can i change
you should use an alna skylan team instead of envy imo
maybe
for sure don’t use marcille or cha in TS though, they’re not great as carries here
okay i can show box rq if u wanna see better heroes or i can just try sum else
do you have another carry? like watha or sion or something
gimme a sec, i saw different teams like this used this debuff
could try this but yeah lmk
the skylan team just seems so bad for having skylan in a new region
def try gorok over gorren in there
okay and a support in the envy team to replace gorok?
52
same as me then
i see most skylan people using
seal
ashem sjw
alna skylan
envy with mega supports
watha team
that’s probably my problem cuz i don’t have watha
this could be worth a shot instead of watha team
okay bet and for an extra support for envy i could do lava, liberta, or randle
also definitely pony 12 over panda 12 for skylan
i don’t have pony 12 unfortunately
no reso? looked like it mb
reso 9 missing one 12
for me pony 9 is almost the same performance as panda 18
okay i’ll switch it out l
but yea this is the one setup, other one would be envy with an extra support and then skylan alna
i could replace gorok with alna in skylan team and then put saitama in envy team
you got saitama?? definitely use him in envy
if he’s at least e30, that’s the one that matters
probably better to replace alvida then gorok with alna tho right
and yeah i got his e30
yea alna skylan gorok westrilda jerome is what you usually see
gorok is really good with envy/skylan
like this?
no lysander, since skylan doesn’t reach the other side
he debuffs the frontline if they don’t reach the other side
okay hold up
what about daemia?
you could try some random team with lysander with daemia and aurelia as rooks
ah and that frees jerome and west
sion could also be skylan backup damage
okay lemme try sum
go cook it up
wait to be rooks are they both frontline?
rooks are backline
i didn’t use sion tho
i think no matter what your 5th team WR will suck, you just don’t have enough protecting supports to do everything
that’s true but this might work better then the other one
could try! i’m super surprised that other comp didn’t get 2% WR
my comp with watha alvida liberta lysander aurelia panda 18 got 18%
so it could be way worse ngl
damn that’s ROUGH
i’m pretty sure this skylan comp will be better in general, just not sure if it’s worth the trade-offs
probably will be hopefully my 6 team does okay
exactly, 5 team doesn’t matter at this point
my 6 team is decently promising so we’ll see
Im not sure m lys is good, rather a win condition for the enemy
The skylan comp will be good, but Lysander comp won’t do well with Ivan frontline. For your region should use Sion with alna Skylan in another comp imo
sion replacing ivan?
also if pippa ends up not being top 4 then i can pull for Athoran and greatly improve my seal team
I think this set up is fine tbh. Maybe swap Aurelia and Velu.
Afawkes before athoran imo
It’s pretty close, but you might get more bang for your buck with 1 copy athoran and full build afawkes. He does dmg and stalls just as long
choice prob depends on what happens to thoran NC use after cha round leaves
Thoran westy going down in priority list 🤔
Idk i think just cha going bye bye - thoran west likely find new spots no?
who knows also nihi sucks
tis unfortunate I dont have enough heroes built for more teams 💔
Your team 3 5 6 7 sucks


i like the ideas tho hat
keep team 1, 2 and maybe 4
and then redraft an envy and sion team at least
we’ll give feedbaxk again
@north pasturets is over mate i got 3%
This is bad debuff for smol accounts because no advantage at all
Im not smol anymore
@lunar sorrel 404 player not found at the following location: Top 100 Leaderboard

People who have better lives, still manage to perform better than you can ever do 
Weak minded excuses, dumping you to the "No longer worthy of concern" pile, good day
Man AI is so good now
u are'
This is mean bro
Lets be nice to everyone chat
mods go
that statement is so brainless ngl but i’m glad you find it useful
does anyone know why kisaka is like this
maybe it’s the CH78 effect
cause he sucks
Lol what did u say to gaslight Gemini bro
Like I had finals while people like you just sit in an office all day
huh? that’s also a crazy argument
what’s your plan for after finishing school
maybe… perhaps… a job?

my arguments are primed for uneducated people
formations?:)
Use whatever you use for your campaign filled with your most upgraded, you're not at the part where using the right comps will make your rank jump up
I finished 2.8% last TS, i need comps for this season's TS
nice
Give me some help on this seasons comps 
Look at the leaderboard to give you the basic ideas of comps that's used over and over
Something like Alna Skylan is extremely popular, if not bring another protection
Another team you can try is Shemira + Sion at the back, but your hero box seems top heavy at the moment
You have some of the roster that could push you to top 20 level, but your pet is also severely lacking
What does "top heavy" mean?
You have admittedly very good assortment of good heroes, but missing a lot of the not so flashy supports to form 5-7 teams to get better rank, so the good heroes fall apart when you don't have enough support for them
I cant check because everyone is at 4 teams so im already doing the teams that i can do that looks like theirs, idk what teams i can do for 5-6-7 i always struggle with 5-6-7 teams 🙁
Ahh okey got it now
I just want to get top100 so i can get some good rewards :/
You want immediate impact? Start by using up furniture cards and rush Alna 9F
Otherwise she can't do her frontline protection job for your carry which is likely to be Skylan
These are the winrates
I think there is some problems with my envy team idk why its that low
Looks like everyone has 1 team with AwaAthalia and Using the one punch man guy to get 2nd alna kinda comp
U know why Envydiel win rate is so low? If you look at the replays he probably die before he can do his thing
Just like SJW he needs protection
Some people move Shemira with him but as your team count go up you need to spread your resources, which means you need to build even more tank supports
Is Velu good enough to put in those TS teams with 36F3e30?
U need to info of her kit and then actually, test, to find out
Someone could say yes and then turns out it doesn't work in your region and only theirs
I think the biggest issue i have is not having enough Awakeneds&HBS built and i dont have enough furnitures.. In TS guides people use like 2 awake/Hbs for each team almost
Your pet is way bigger issue right now, you have seal, and that's it, you need 7 pets
Well ice crown can probably count as one but I don't like the odds of 12 owl
Also unsure how horse performs below 27
Idk i use it since its high level
I also assume your tree is pretty smol at this point which makes trying to climb against older players, harder
Its like this, idk if im building it correctly
Yeah your tree is way too small by R52 standard that trying to compete is a pain, try to aim for proper breakpoints like 62 or even 77 for haste branches first, for example sust and sorc
Skimming through your roster your stat priority looks something like sust = cele > sorc > tank > might
It's hard to get out of until you start to get the last % bonus from 107
Then the impact of people having much better tree is lessened
Move rem frontline and replace atheus with Velu, she’s plenty big enough.
And put talene frontline instead of Knox
Guys I'm curious, how long does it take to reach this roaster as a f2p? I just started a fresh account, at the time it was Ainz and Lucretia meta so there's much much that I'm missing
around 11 months i think he’s been playing
i’ve got a similar box and similar playtime
Yeah its almost 11 months now
T6 and T7 look a bit suspect but generally it looks pretty good actually!
swap shuna and dae
and i can’t really see how to fix 6/7 team while using lib and luci they’re pretty bad in TS these days
might be better off with an alna eironn team, and using sion as a rook in your lys watha team
or as a very sad alucius sub
For TS (and pvp in general), who holds more weight, Askriath or Alucius?
prob aluc
Does Aluc need Gavus and Levi for his team to be really effective
Thats the most efficient team for him
levi is almost not subbable, but gavus has some decent subs
aluc team was almost completely dead until levi release
I see.. guess i need to build levi first then. Thx!
Yes Aluc isn’t worth building if you don’t have Levi
I have the ff non-woke
Cele: dae aure lib lys alna orth flora
Hypo: knox lava
For TS focus, who are the next 3 celepogs for me to build, and in what priority?
@mild patrol There's like not that many worthwhile options left besides Selene and Serenmira
You could go for twins for occasional NC or CR usage
Talene is also a thing if you need to make your seal round better
Actually tempted to do this since im focusing on TS now..
Between Selene and Seren, who would be the prio?
For just TS they're roughly the same (uncommon) usage, Selene has edge in CR being carry for some rounds, Serenmira is mainly about overloading Zohra so she murders everything
Aye thanks!
Don’t do talene, Selene and Seren are both better. Also Flora roughly same performance as Talene and won’t need extra SGs
I see, alright. Flora already at A1 now through the free boxes
Also, ive seen Icariel in TS comps in the test server (as seren replacement in Maetria comp). Any word on that in global?
Yea flora is good enough, and I’ve seen ppl recommend icariel for seal but could probably go in Zohra if not needed for seal
Interesting then.. might not have to build Seren anymore if Icariel works well enough
Do you have a bunch of SG? Selene pretty safe to build imo
And melion can be used instead of seren if icariel not built yet
Yep.. around 800+ atm.
I have melion built alr though.
Yep, so can use melion in Zohra and Selene for ashem/envy. Selene also functions at minimal investment
20330, tho si30 is a good boost for dmg
Alr that's a good plan, thx! 🍻
You bet!
R52, rank 59 right now but my 3rd team sucks on WR, what can i do now?
I wouldn’t use alvida till you can get her si40
Then should i start saving for SI40 on her or i SI30 someone else since i have around 85 white 220 red
Alvida si40 is probably the biggest boost to TS out of any you could do. You’ll need a lot more emblems either way tho to get her or someone else to si40 so you should probably keep saving at this point
Hold off seal for as long as possible because its effect diminish as people get stronger over time
r52 is easy
And what about saitama, he ll be active in 4 days i thoguht maybe i can SI30 and e60 him insta
Tbh if TS is your focus you’ll probably get more out of e60 sjw than saitama, I would wait and see what he really needs
Also i can do 2 e30 and 1 e60 if someone needs it for TS
I heard si309f and e30 for saitama at first then can e60 later
Then maybe SI30 e60 SJW is the play then save for saitama and alvida?
His 3f is good too, 9f you can probably slow build
Yea I think that’s a good call, maybe just e60 sjw for now and see if you think that’s strong enough
Okey sounds great
Also 1 more question i have is who should i start using cards for furn, i used the cards for Alna 9F
Si30 for sjw is good, I just dunno how that compares to saitama. And tbh Saitama is mostly good with a strong hyper carry like envy. But if your envy is already good then he’s not as useful
He is 40960
Yes my point was that if your envy comp is already doing very well then saitama won’t be as impactful
You can try pairing Saitama with Aathalia tho if you need to fill out your TS comps
Dont have awathlia
Ah, yeah you need to fill out your hero box more, Saitama won’t be as useful yet
(I’m not saying you should build Aathalia next, just saying in general)
yea im a little uncertain too of how good he’ll be if i already have levi for envy
but def worth trying
If you have Levi then you can probably pair Estrilda and Aurelia with him and do Saitama with envy actually
oo
i have that for 6t already, with misha with envy
saitama will be better for sure
Yeah i ll go for Zohra
and for E30 should i do Mira? or anyone else to do first
Or maybe Begris even?
That’s a bit tricky, Mira might be best for TS, but Palmer or talimar maybe better for NC etc
I think afawkes next is better tbh
Yeah well i cant even kill 6 in NC and i cant do top100 ts
Then idk what to do
what do we think 👀
laios = saitama
No seal comp?
Okay that’s probably fine then.
unsure about marci, esp for burst but i kinda need elth for seal without thoran/fawkes built
Yea Marcille isn’t really gonna do anything there, can find it a round tho and make adjustments after
could try 20330 melion in there
Yea or Melion instead of Gorren, but I would just run it as is and then make adjustments
will do! ty my ma


Any changes i can do for now? Will get Saitama in 2 days. Im num 71. TS in R52
@carmine bison What are these teams 
- Using Alna but not with Skylan? And like you said Saitama still isn't here, no reason to castrate your rank until he comes
- Sorry but TS isn't really a "change out good parts with less good parts so you can balance out win rate", I don't see Sion being able to perform anywhere near as good as Skylan, I'm sorry
- Alvida is still a risk without SI40
- Albedo useless without SI30, her purpose is to boost dim damage, not so much tank unless you heavily invested
- Might be easier if you posted the teams and their actual win rate instead
- Tamrus is liability, you don't want someone squishy like him only to boost your team defensively, offense wins you battles, Tamrus don't have offense boost until 9F (with SI30 as icing)
- Also show pet because roster don't really mean shit without the right pets to bring their power out
PS: You're not at the top level bracket to even consider 'balancing out win rate', you want to grab as much reliable wins as you can
I thought i need to do some balanced teams to keep up win rate thank you for explaining
Here are my pets
This is 4 teams win rates
That's not really how it works, it's not like slight adjusts like "which supports to bring to Envydiel team instead of Aurelia? Gorok/Lan/Estrilda/etc
Can't remember when treat even has the protection skill unlocked but you really really want to push your pets ASAP especially on pretty old region like 52
Ah okay you already made the changes nevermind
Things to note:
- Velufira probably better on Envydiel team
- Can't remember if Envydiel has conflict with Ivan because I think his 3F blocks your allies from targeting him, so Ivan shields someone else?
- Don't forget the right SP when you use multiple awakened in one team
I checked the cheat sheet comes at 18
Well can't do much else I guess, your pets are severely lacking, but getting top 100 is still impressive with those handicaps
I think Estrilda wants her 9f
Im mostly following this but i think this is like kinda end game thing?
Jerome technically also benefits from his 9f to ramp up faster
He is 8f sadly im working on it XD
TheAFKGuys has multiple problems
- The actual guide is out before the debuff found, they change accordingly and post new one much much later, before next same debuff round starts
- I tend to mock it as "If you want to reliably top 100, then follow them" because, I don't see them as being effective for higher rank pushes, I personally use different guides
- Not F2P budget friendly, that's for sure
Look at Farara guides, they're modern and updated as each round progresses, albeit has some basic requirements like resonance 18 to work well
Sometimes it's worth card rushing a 9F especially if it's gamebreaking like Pippa
For Saitama later on, take your time
It's risk taking but when you card you generally are rushing for 9f or lesser extent 3f, the only milestones
I won't tell you what to do exactly but I want to train you to develop the thought process so you can better decide
Okeyy thank you
Is 3f or 9F is a must on thoran?
Maybe i can improve seal team with that
Read the description I don't remember exactly, Thoran is phased out of NC
Generally anything that benefits you offensively like 'enemy take more damage' or 'allies gain attack' are highly desirable, but not gamebreaking enough to need to rush
Make sure you keep up on top ranking twisted realm for easy poe
Im always in top 3 changes according to the boss
Ah already have a competent boss, very good very good, anything I say will just be supporting material then
Hi. Are 9f and/or e60 needed by Saitama for TS?
You'll probably want E60 overall but I'm stepping on people with 3f regardless, are you on test server where the region is like, stacked? Or
Is new wilder useful at all in seal team with only SI20 instead of 1 copy Elthara, so i can do elthara skylan comp?
Or 1 copy of talene instead of elthara
i think she needs her si40
it’s safe rounds now, so for sure go test it
compare her and flora
and use elth with lys/skylan
Im struggling with deciding who to SI and stuff my options are these;
- SJW SI 20 to 30 he is e60 9f already
- Saitama No F No e but i can e30 him,
- Talimar is 3F e30 i could sı20 to sı30a
- Save for alvida sı40 she is 4f e30
and box is here
You can replace Alna with Sai or just slap Sai onto AwShem for simple changes
Sai Envy also good, with them both frontline
its similar to ashem with albedo but instead of bedo its sai
Yep on test. Was able to crack T100 last TS. Looking to improve moving forward.
I have him at 30330, and can card to 30930. Its the effectiveness of his e60 im debating on. Got about 9k cores atm.
Test TS is the hardest RGM mode there actually.
There's only 1 region. You got about a thousand or so players, all the way from server 1, on the same TS ladder.
wow
To be fair half of them probably quit already
true
What ranking this ts hat
1% for me unfortunately
But hope i can hit rank 100 with new 309 hild e60 Levi and 18 ghost upgrades
8% but i expect it to drop
i'm waiting for the new hb to decide on who to a1
then i can spend my furn cards on said hb and pippa
It's not unfortunate if top 100 is the exception and 1% is the norm 
Yep true. However, all the new players all become part of the same region. Surprisingly, there are still new players coming into test.
The order of rgm prio there is NC > CR > TS
@meager shard @main breach @carmine bison
how’d saitama do for you guys and where did you use him?
He kinda did shit without skylan
Is Saitama not literally a Alna replacement/second Alna?
For budget conscious F2P - you could try to Saitama with Sion like you did with Alna back then
I might do alna envy / saitama skylan
but then its kinda hard to fit sion to somewhere else since SJW is with shem
alna but better
why not do sait/alna w sion/skylan and use west with envy
or maybe even sait west with envy i saw some good results
Yeah im not sure about the results 😭
I did saitama envy west but didnt fight yet
envy is just bad this debuff yea
I just used saitama in watha in 5t and in 6t i put his in the fodder team with e60 randle and marcile
It increased the envy team wr from 38 to 52
niice
@north pasture @wise harbor for pets i go treat 18 then panda 18 right? since i finished 18 seal 12 ice
I wouldn't know the exact order priority thing, but take a look at leaderboard and figure out which pets are clearly the most prominent (and you losing to the most, probably)
Owl treat and panda to 18 are all very good
For overall TS use, which non-drac Si40s are the priority? Considering all prio Si30s are already done
Im thinking:
LB: Aluc, Alvi, Westri
Mauler: KFC (?)
Wilder: Misha, Atheus, Gorok (?), Wippa (?)
GB: Athoran, Afawkes
Cele: Aure, Lyss (?)
Hypo: Knox, Envy (?)
Dims: SJw, Saitama (?), Shalltear (?)
Lucius is unusable without his 40, if your carries aren't big enough, the effect unlocks on 'supports' like Aurelia becomes useless because if carries die you just lose
wow
you don’t have aure? i’d agree lucius is bad without his si40, but generally aure is the single best support and needs si40 at this stage
I already have her at 40. Was just listing all heroes per faction which i think have a prio 40.
The ones i dont have at 40 yet are: KFC, Misha, Atheus, Gorok, Wippa, Lyss, SJW, Saitama, Shalltear.
Are there any others I missed, or who 40 isnt needed?
I see.. so its 40960 or nothing for him. His team is amazing in pvp, but quite expensive to build (Levi, Gavus)
He has great stats, but powercreep means it's still not enough to keep him alive, so he needs more to peel for him until he can at least ult
I see.. thats why he's one of the first to 36f..
It's why the chest pet is also used, another layer of protection, because that team if Lucius dies it's pretty much a loss
Before chest it was treat for the same reason
What are your thoughts on Saitama as a 2026 Alna? (Still on the fence if i should 40 him)
He unlocked on alt last night so I built 303E30 to test, didn't really work that well, unsure if it was matchmaking or it's fine for NC but lacks protection in TS, so I gave him E60 also
Still not great, probably do want SI40 to actually be good in pvp like main did
He unlocked in test just as TS ended. So haven't been able to test him yet.
How's he doing for your main at full invest?
Dominating
If you want to keep up he does want that SI40
Probably 9f too depending on region
Wow thats something to look forward to then.
Planning to 40 sjw and sai, now that the next dims are a bit far off
Maybe this debuff is wacky but you still want carries first as always, they are the ones that decide whether you win or lose
Very rarely, do you see matches where say, your Leviathan is finishing them off
On that note, is zohra si40 needed?
The way I interpret it is it 'doubles' her damage
Hmm that could be why my zohra team isnt doing that well.. just realized now from what you said about carries
Thanks.. will re evaluate my teams with all this info
Well, 'double' damage is not quite right but she's now hitting two people with star cores instead of 1 which means two take extra
True. And that would be very effective in pvp
I think that comp needs Estrilda, he’s working pretty well for me.
R33 #3
Current rank?
It shows it right above that pic. But rank 3 in region 33, and rank 3 in my other region 38
Can i even hit top 100 in ts consistently? Cause whatever I do I can’t seem to get it. Plz help
nice
Try this. It’s set up to primarily make the first 5 teams good. If seal suffers a lot from removing elthara then you can put her back.
If the results from this are good then keep the teams the same and just add a filler 7th team.
Thank you so much 🙏🏻
You bet. Lmk how it goes. 
ive found sait envy better so far, for the guard buffing
do you prefer sait west?
curious
maybe e60 diff
Whoops good catch, yes envy Saitama better *
Think I looked at his performing comps and shuffled some of the heroes around but didn’t properly reset that. 
Keep estrilda sp tho. 
i just realized i don’t even know what SP stands for
Special Power?
Super Passive
Solid Protection
No you cannot, how can one consistently perform at top 100, when you have yet to achieve it for a first time?
You have the potential however, start by getting the rosters you are using to their proper investment level
This isn't a "If I copy from a top performer, I should perform similar but at lower ranks, and that's okay for me", some comps just don't work out with way too low of investments
👌🏻👌🏻
Also reminder, this isn't fighting static comps like NC or CR, you're against different set of people each round so you're at the mercy of them, even if they work in another region with low investment, doesn't mean R54 will let you off, missing some key heroes means R54 will do things differently to all older regions
Oh wait nevrrmind it's just Shalltear
Just because he hasn’t hit it yet doesn’t mean he can’t get top 100 consistently. He has a good base so if he can get 5 solid comps top 100 should be doable.
Missing investments on SJW and all that, you can't expect underinvestment like no engrave heroes to do well
it’s a good r54 account, you’re out of touch my man
Thank you man you’re the goat im rank 76 now
That’s awesome!! A couple suggestions: swap estrilda and envy positioning (keep estrilda sp tho). And replace talimar with Palmer but put him in the center position.
Also try swapping elthara and flora. If seal team becomes noticeably worse tho then you’re welcome to swap it back.
I’ll try that cause the last team doesn’t do anything hah
I’m 67 now
That’s crazy
Going from top1% to 67
Hopefully that’s safe for top 100, your last 2 teams are basically gonna be throwaways. 
So i made two variants of 7 teams this time around and would like some advice.
Variant 2:
sjw needs to be behind ashem instead of ivan, the whole idea of the team is giving protection and energy to sjw so he can munch everyone up
use saitama with envy, gorok goes to sion instead of gorren
still that eironn team is super silly but these will help at least
speaking of variant 1 btw
Maybe do shem rem sjw daemia ivan comp and use the estrilda with envy comp
Made some changes lookin for some feedback
I still have palmer, jerome, Asaf, tam, gorok, randle, selene (20330) and lava unused
If No seren can use melion or Selene. Elthara usable at 1 copy. If no Elthara use Selene or liberta there.
For overall TS, which has higher prio, Elthara or Levi?
For TS definitely Levi. Also elthara is like 70% as effective at 1 copy. I would wait for new hbd tho to see if he’s busted
Alright, sounds good. Will hodl a bit more thx!
Anytime
show winrates
maybe later
Did you use my suggested comps or do your own thing?
Showing WRs is a very small ask when multiple ppl went to the trouble of giving you advice
agreed
Will the new hb be in ts thatz the question
He looks generally broken no?
Hope hes better than elth
Nah.. elth still mvp because which HB works at 1 copy 
Whats the rotation of TS again?
Volcano - Forest - Ice - Fog - Pure?
Does Lyss 40 have a big impact in TS?
Lysander is the center piece of horse comp and his role to me is kind of like Jerome at buffing your units so they become stronger and stronger, can't say for sure how much of impact SI40 will have, if you don't even have the setup ready
I see.. so it's better to have the horse comp all complete and invested first, then getting Lyss 40.
@mild patrol But like, you don't invest in a hero just to focus one mode most of the time, Lysander 40 is still a staple in current CR and NC
Thats true. Im trying to really work on my TS now, and working on hero investments which also cover NC and CR.
Will get Lyss to 40 if next celepog isnt a prio.
Next celehypo 3 years
Last two/three were mostly fan service heroes 
Selene is pretty good and shes the most recent no?
yep. best waifu we've had in a while
If Saitama is best paired atm with Skylan..
Where does Alna go now?
i’ve seen a lot of people has success with envy sait, even tho it was a bad envy debuff when it released for all the non-buyers
so maybe keep alna w skylan
but yea just try all of it and see what works best, probably is sait invest and region dependent
Currently have sait at 30960. Will try him then on envy this upcoming rounds
some people had success with sait west and envy backline but it didn’t work for me
I think you could do alna envy or alna sion, I used alna sion last ts it had around 60-65% Wr in 7T
I got 92🎉 you’re the goat
Wooo, close one. Congrats!
Thanks man should I use the same teams?
I got one copy of Awfawkes
For the most part yes you can.
You can also try swapping estrilda and Gorok, put envy in forward position with saitama tho
That’s what i got right now
For 4 teams see about incorporating your good heroes leftover - Gorok can replace talimar and Aurelia can replace Jerome.
This is what I got right now
Yea…just do what I suggested
Thanks 🙏🏻
Question, is there any updated guide/recommended teams? Been mainly doing the same thing each time which has had varying levels of success, but also feel like I could be doing better.
need to get a guild or mentor to help you out to get personalized teams
oh funny, you're actually in KG
Yeah fair on the personalized bit, but even a general guide like what you linked will be helpful!
KG?
kuudra gang
the issue is that TS is becoming more and more kraken lol
small box TS is hard lol
Oh lmao that is funny.
not too often I see skyblock players here.
What can I say. I enjoy games that take way too much time, and can potentially take months to see meaningful improvements lol.
Yeahhh though that was the case. True end game limit. Credit limits.
fun fact i have 3500 hours on ironman
guess why i stopped 🫢
That’s nuts. I have 3k from just regular and that was back when the midas was the strongest lol. You’re insane lol
Suffer!
lmaoo it was pretty insane yea
my acc got hacked and someone deleted the ironman
it was good for my personal life but mannn
i was like top 200 at a certain point
W
can anyone help me make ts teams ? i can't get past 40% ranking
Lookin for ts help
swap sait and alna. i’d say also don’t use lib and luci, you’d be better off using lysander and elth, putting daemia somewhere else (maybe with ashem to free west for another team)
can i see your winrates from previous TS please
@north pasture Don't bother with someone who actively ignores the effort others put to try to help 
That Saitama investment will do nothing but hinder him, better off with Alna
:P
I dont have elth and lys
@sinful girder that west dae lan team went insane in r51
wait casual you made that team?
also here's a combined wr. ||mine rank 76||
some more or less interesting situations i saw
Besides Aluc, which meta TS heroes are not used in Ice debuff?
Pretty much any that relies on shield (Leviathan) or ult becomes much less effective, and anyone with energy drain in theory, gets better
But in reality many of the new releases effectively disregard them anyway, because they are way too powerful to be stopped
I see.. so thats why Westri is still used, but Aluc is dropped altogether
Estrilda effectively bypasses the problem with her own 'shield' system that disregards the mechanics
And still be able to be shielded
How about Gorok? Would he be still effective
I don't think he relies on shield, just there tanking
But will see
Didn't have issue last time
Alright thx 🍻
Can someone help me improve ? I usually get around top 8% with my current roster. Which Teams could I Build with what I have ?
Your potential rank is generally decided by other people's rosters and not you, if possible imitating the comps used by top leaderboard players is a good idea
Don't forget other factors like pet level engraves furniture and biggest of them all, collections, all matter, sometimes a comp that works well for others may not work for you due to underinvestment, or region style differences
Will apippa or afawkes give me a higher winrate increase? And does anyone know what to do when you dont have maetria? I feel like subbing her out destroys the entire burst comp
Thanks for the information :)
Is there anyone that has a big knowledge about ts and likes to help with ts teams? (account specific)
best way to get personalized help is to join a guild and ask them
wow
Recruitment specialist 
join a TS focused guild
TS 
Just curious, why is Tarnos effective in this debuff? In 7t
should i follow these teams guide even tho i'm still early, i have around 3-4 real campaign teams at stage 34
will it be relevant since i don't have all best in slot heroes
do it its a good one
not totally relevant, but you can copy the general team structures
ok thanks
what i mostly need is a debuff?
for the anti energy
if it's debuffable
well, the biggest takeaway with frost debuff is that shields don’t work and energy reliant heroes (like ivan) don’t work
Better ask my partner lol

my elthara team is doing pretty bad, usually it's the best team. is it because of the big damage reduction for the first 30s of the fight? because elthara is like ult at 15sec in then fights over but it might not work here
is ivan in there?
alvida issue, she needs si40 to work in that team
Whats a good team to swap out the maetria team? Sorry for asking here I dont have enough karma on reddit to comment
Saw this on reddit, maybe it helps
Is Selene BiS in any TS team/s?
Like, if subbing her will have a noticeable drop in performance
No
she works well in a lot of teams, which gives you an extra hero to use in another team
Still bummed i didnt get apprentice supporter
i think saying “No” doesn’t count as support
I didnt say no
