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Oh true sjw has really good survivability as well
You can try that sion set up again and swap daemia and Ivan if you’d like.

That's what I used to run but was also meh. But without SI 40 tbf
Might try Watha carry and Sion Ashem for 1 round and see if she does better
If you mean alna Aathalia it’s generally not good. But can try if you’d like
No just normal watha burst and back to alna envy , sion ashem
Ah I see. 👍
4t is weired since sion alna and watha alone don't really work. 5t is more chill
Tbh you might be better off keeping 4 strong teams and a throwaway team, your ashem and Aathalia team both going to underperform imo
Then can play around with 5 teams after calc
My teams are kinda doing really bad especially t4 and I watched some the battles and aure just keeps dying so fast even in the battles I won so am think of putting Jerome instead of her and moving her with shemria for more survivability
good teams
that envy team is remarkably bad
that’s crazy
sooo i tested the asaf team at 4t
it is not doing well by any means, but i went from #72 to #67 in these 50 battles so i guess it could be worse
but it doesn’t seem worth it
been checking the logs, only thing it seems to beat is watha teams without cheat death
so maybe it’s more viable in 5t because people split their watha into a solo team
Try Aathalia in for asaf. It kinda messes up your plans for 5t. But if it’s really good then you will probably still do better with a throwaway 5th team.
My suggestions…did not work.

I’m not always this fraudulent tho. 
It's just a no Sion problem
Try Jerome instead of albedo for envy and bronn or Randle in Shem
Over albedo or Misha ?
I tried Pegasus on Stall and it was so much worse than Seal 
Think it fits specific Stalls more than others
I edited it, over albedo. 🗿
Yea that’s what I’ve heard, think it’s mostly good with longer alvida comps, or at lvl 24 it might outperform other pets.
Putting so many ressources into garrisoning albedo every month only for her to lose a lot of presence when I'm one month off having her free is mildly annoying
I saw it being good for some people at 18 but I think it's very comp specific
I can't run the AwShem AwThoran Envy + Pegasus comp because it's something only Levi owners can really fit at this low team 
You should be able to get some good mileage out of her, but I think you need stronger dims alongside her. Don’t sweat it tho, at least she’s almost done garrisoning
I’ll be honest in my region I don’t see anyone using her at 4t, but maybe it’s different in other regions.
You mean Pegasus? I only saw ss of people testing it, none in my region
Wonder if it'll be TS specific whether it's any good
The ressources are NOT here to build Cha or SJW imma be honest
I can give e30 to Emilia but feels more like a bandage rather than a real solution
I’m guessing decent in Abex/nc and mostly useful in TS at 24+
Yea I dunno if e30 Emilia is worth, because Shalltear could also use it and she’ll stick around for a long time, but Emilia is phased out a lot sooner.
Rim > Emilia imo
Exactly
I've heard a lot of people say it's nicer than Seal for camp/fac tower so I thought it might also be nice in TS
But it's kinda not linearly good
And from what I'm seeing when I get to build a solid 5th team it'll probably be one of those shall tear hildwin panda comps
Yea skip Emilia for now imo, do you have rim?
Yea it seems more comp specific, and probably shines later with more investment. But I dunno want to over invest when the next woke pet will probably be a lot better
Yeah, I think f2p/low spenders could prob get pretty close to lvl21 just buying the monthly copy for bait at least
But saving for future releases is def the play
I do would he be better than Emilia in the envy comp ?
Yes give him a try, adds a lot of tankiness to your comp. You can’t see his impact as well directly but typically a bit better results
Alright
ill try that, the issue is that i can easily free up daemia with no harm to my teams, but i dont have heroes left to make a good team with her
maybe sjw in seal and dae with sion
so she at least finds use
Daemia needed with the lan comp for dmg tho.
Or maybe I’m misunderstanding…what’s your new 4t/5t
1s
Dae does a lot of dmg in Red TS but she needs someone with fast hitting AoE/team dmg to enable her
What’s your rank?
NICE!!
you’re suggesting smth like this right? and a fifth throwaway team
maybe gorren > tam i’m not sure
Im 5 points away from t100 MAYBE its possible at the calc
Yes I think this is good. Also because you’ll probably just enter 5t for like 10-20 matches, where you’ll be facing much harder opponents, so better to focus your teams, and then can play around with it later
Much better. 

alr ty
i love starting my day with seeing #67, setting ts teams and then spending 6 hours on relativistic and classical mechanics
only to find a 3% staring me in the face
Well, you were testing a really underdeveloped asaf comp, so this next round should go much better since you’re not handicapping yourself
i actually ended 4 spots better than without the asaf comp soehow
Are these fine for 5T you think? Or should i not use chae at all 🥹
sjw sion had like 73%, he cooked
sjw will probably just die without getting value, he works at 20330 but only if he survives
but you have to make a fifth team anyways, so depends on if you have other options
i remember using L skylan and getting 20-30% sometimes
Put sjw and cha in ashem, Misha with rem, and Randle + shuna with liberta.
Silas can go in seal
probably only for 6/7 teams, it’s value comes from burstkilling teams that have their heroes too spread out
but defo try it
glazed to absolution. poor guy
😭😭😭
There’s like 100 afk arena emojis and no good ones for laughing.
😂
That’ll have to do



HA! HA! HA!
yea sobbing is better
btw this was my other 5t idea, but i think its too thinly spread
This one would be good if asaf wasn’t such shit. Think leg asaf only really works in frost now where the dmg is slower.
yea :(
i basically need one more hero to make it work
but that’s fine
hopefully it’s enough for t100
a lot of my immediate competition have envy si40 or smth similar
i dont have that early overinvest which means i should be able to take over in the long run
Doubt it really makes any diff for TS though, bigger deal would be the invest + composition of the rest of his team
big improvements
sion alna
envy dims dae
ashem sjw watha
lib seal
or do i put dae with sion
wow
wassup hat
not much
@trail depot HELP
t4 might be struggling because jerome is not fully built
i think he needs 30930 for ts
Hi. Move Jerome to frontline and add Palmer, other than that I dunno.
What’s your first team WR? Also move sjw behind ashem
I climbed my way back up to #1 
Yea I think Randle and lib are just ass in t100
But thanks
And do you think I can use this over flight?
For shuna and Palmer or Ivan
Pretty risky, I wouldn’t recommend it outside of talene in seal or maybe Ivan in ashem and even then I usually use flight.
You can try it tho on Palmer middle backline if you want
No I think am just gonna use on Ivan
in general it just makes the comp more unstable and the boost isn’t that great
I see
but ofc try and see for yourself, everything is relative
I do be back in t100 and I have a good Aurelia collection now
r50
lookin good
what should my next hero for furn be?
gorren, shuna, shalltear, alvida, even albedo seem like decent options
i think shuna and naroko should take prio over marcille and cha
idk i wanna get marcille and cha for nc purposes
I mean, the Marci round is leaving in <2wks
She could still be used after that, but you won't get much furn in that time for the current R1 
I'd just chuck Shuna into that empty slot though (Gorren's got better furn skill, but Shuna's generically just a nicer hero)
Gyatt damn i think thats good in Cr and Nc
Ivan or reg Tal are the only sust that can kinda get away with it in TS
I still have it so I can make another +2 err vault next week
Reg tal?
reg Talene 
Luci can get away with it too but idk if people even build her anymore
Yea I put it in Ivan for now and put him back line
Yea she fell off a while ago the only thing that kept her was lib and he’s falling off now too
Once your region gets older though you'd just always use Flight on sust in TS
2M Fatk is kinda good enough on the ones that don't stat scale or CC
which ig isn't that many sust but still
Yea I still don’t have a def one for Misha and is for lava Mel Ivan
And err for Knox and lib
IS one is a huuuge pain to make
Am telling you my luck is so bad
IS is good on Knox too
Well his base IS is already pretty decent but enemies in TS can have quite a lot of TS
Ivan doesn't need an IS coll in TS because he's got giga base IS (tied highest of any hero) but he does get value out of +2 Flight's skill if you had one (and normally a +2 Flight would also be with IS)
By ts you mean tenacity?
Well that makes sense but I think am very far off of getting flight +2 I still have a lot more to do
So I guess I can try and make a better ftak coll for Ivan and then is for Knox
Oops, meant to type TY there lmoa (it's nearly 4AM and I've been directing AE all day) 
Without a +2 you can just use Atk or Fatk on Ivan & Fatk on Knox for the time being
Thats me with my envydiel one


What does it look like?
I believed
Oh btw you shouldn’t recast when you only have 1M
But that’s fine for now
Later you want 3 CDA
Its okay dw, i know its not optimal xD
XD
I mean 400 elixir is 40 legendary totems so it’s not that bad
40 legendary how much is that
erm let’s say it’s 20sticks per legendary if your lucky that’s gonna be around 400$
But it’s probably less if you factor in combining
so I’d say about 200-300$
Not that bad

You probably wanna restore the first CDA as well when you make another one
But it’s fine cuz you didn’t use lvl card
@restive gull do you really have to copy my comps and then fight me in the same path. It’s making it hard to get an edge. 

xDDDDDD
at the end we will be t5-10 as always
I picked up Alvida and sjw recently, so hopefully can push higher. 

We split up our wins on the mirror match up. 

That is so kraken
Sigh.. some how I’m still in 1st with IC instead of seal. 😂
how does that happen
whoops i forgot the key part of my whole team, anyways im still literally the best of the entire region
brennan things
also why is alna so bad :(
was performing better without her
Does talimar see ts use?
for smaller accounts for sure, but i think she only really subs in levi team
Will 30060 work
From what I heard cr needs 30960 and nc can somewhat work at 30360 in r6
Feels like a waste that i e60ed her lol
I'm missing like 3s NC R6 without 9f
:(
i went back up to 80
haven’t dropped out of t100 since ts start
that’s a good sign i hope
@trail depot can i improve the sion team? not sure what’s good with sion alna other than ivan
or do i just pivot to alna envy
It might get better at Treat lvl9 
Ngl I have no idea what beast prio is these days 
idk i went for seal into panda and now im working towards owl
All I know is that Treat was one of the beasts that was worth taking to lvl27 (before Fabled Beasts got released at least)
Tbh I dunno how to improve that team without putting another team at risk etc.
think ts pro think
Try swapping daemia and Aurelia
Maybe there's nothing to do as of now sometimes there's a limit to what the account can do and that's ok
ill defo try, i think the big thing is just si40 for sion
but i also want velu si30, so im waiting until i have enough to do both
Am really struggling making 5 teams @trail depot could you lend a hand if your free plz
crazy acc
I think am just gonna make the 5th team ass and move lib
probably a good idea
do you have L asaf? i used that with rem naroko gorren daemia
No sadly
but it’s not that good in Red tbh
what wr does your seal get?
Oh yeah that makes a big difference
oo that should be huge
Put Jerome in ashem and Estrilda in rem comp imo.
Nvm I think I fixed it
I don’t think mythic Velu would be that strong, can use Emilia
I can do that
I liked your previous set up with daemia in rem comp. Your new rem too low dmg
doesn’t aure do more dmg?
No…
Oh shit
She adds more tankiness to your team, so functions better with envy comp
I see
Lots of supports and then he kills everything
Or I can put Palmer in envy emila in shemira and west on rem?
Thoughts?
And is talene E usable?
I know she’s good with seal just don’t know her min
Yes you can take out atheus and use talene
Bet
Use this set up with Estrilda in rem, Jerome in ashem, and Emilia in envy comp
So I don’t use Palmer
Oh nvm
Can use him instead of villa in team 5. 
Yea I just realized
@restive gull how did you preemptively make the same mistake as me and also have IC on your seal team.

@sinful girder is aurelia furn more important than knox one
Ill wishlist accordingly

Knox furn isn't important at all
But you just get it because Knox is good and the effect is still not bad
I copied from you and you gave it to team

Lmao. Is there a setting to click so that it auto copies their comps? Didn’t think you could do that without seeing my 5t ahead of time
magic
…hacks!
yeah
You ready for 5t? How’re your results rn?
Oof
I think i fell out of t100 in last battle…
Its so over for mich
WAIT 1 MORE BATTLE
ITS 49 DONE
MAYBE
@trail depot @north pasture @lime zinc @sinful girder @silver jacinth LOVE YOU ALL MY GOATS


Wait
…
I lied guys
Damn
The 5 battles werent done yet
At least you know that you can get it that’s a huge deal it’s self
From 3% to almost t100
Atleast i made chocolate chip cookies
Yum
Yea…
But my 5 teams seems to work
Better than 4 teams
🥹
Maybe hopeful for next ?

Oh I didn't do anything no need to thank me 
Keep in mind debuffs affect how you build your teams and how well they perform
Maybe it will go better tho
Post the results
You were part of the journey

Yes you were indeed
Silly i peaked 76th this round
🥹

My goats 🥹 🥹 ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 🥹 🥹
yessir
GOAT
t26 is bonkers
nah you’re crazy
im very happy with this ngl
because most of my competition are light spenders
and i’m a “late” r52er
still top90
f2p too!!
They really don’t
lmaoo
but now i gotta secure 7t
That’s gonna be hard one
now that i have alna i actually can make like a 6th/7th team tho
so you never know
Actually i think it’s different between us I think for me 7t is better cuz the region is new so not a lot of ppl have a lot of teams where for you it can be harder cuz it’s older
But who knows
you might still get t100
ehhh
i’d be happy with like 0.1-0.2
but it defo might be possible with good teambuilding
LOLLL
Mine wasn’t that bad ig
Just last team did horrible
My team 5 was 0% if that's makes you feel better
At least all your teams performed, with more time in 5t would probably be top 100

Atleast the cookies taste awesome

R13 #3. Pretty good results dropped from 2nd on the last round which is annoying.
Can’t complain.
Any "I should have been rank X but game decides to pull me down to %er at the last moment" 

@trail depot Thanks for the help! Made it to 75!
You built the first 4 teams for me. Anything you would change if you were me at this point?
Can i see the rest of the results for teams 4 and 5
I think you can safely take liberta out of seal, have him replace Gorren.
rock on, just 1 for 1 swap em?
Villa is decent in seal.
Villa in seal, and for 6t set up Gorren and Rowan in cha comp (take out Brutus)
rock on, thanks a ton man!
finishing t100 for the first leg felt so good. those rewards were huge. will be nice to get every week
Damn, solidly in top 100 as well. 
@civic badger how was your 1st calc, did you reach 5t during it?
nice
wow okay nice
Show your results pls
Good shit. I jumped up from 41st to 26th with a few good changes.
How many accs do you play 
Too many
my goat manages accounts like lex luthor
Right now I do the TS for 3 accounts directly, and then give advice for like 10-12 ppl across all regions.


E60 Levi when you can, also try Gorren instead of lavatune. His 9f really important though.
You’re in the middle between 2 calcs so it won’t really make a difference, but yea his 9f is really good
This is how teams did. All pretty average but kept me top 50
Ah, very nicely done. The Aathalia comp looked a little risky but it did well.

Also the sion comp seemed to underperform before but it did decent here
Yeah to be fair I did run it in previous calcs without lib and in worse modes for watha where it was getting worse over time. But with fire and Lib I guess it got a few % back
Weirdly enough after the first round it increased to like 40% in 4t aswell
Maybe some bad rng, but it made me question my cook with that team.

Sion is always a letdown tbh but his SI 40 gave him some stability I feel. Took way to long since Lan snuck in-between
Having both of them si40 helps a lot. 
Well tbh Sion was on the bonus team on the afkguide for this debuff instead of in a standard team
For newer regions I usually recommend Aathalia Jerome tamrus Palmer and Emilia, and it does okay. Running elite Lysander bit more risky, but it did well enough here. Also Aathalia stronger this debuff
Could try aswell
If you have all the components you can do that and liberta instead of Simona
Yea but for newer regions you can’t follow the guide as well. Because all the recommended teams are stacked, so you have to figure out the minimum components needed for the team to do well so you can shift around your strong heroes.
True true
What are your thoughts on lavatune in ts he seemed to a have fallen off a bit and he's supposed to be my next celepog (not counting the one that's gonna release) but I feel like I would get more value out of building Lysander
Hmmm, lavatune mostly useful in Aluc comps, outside of that he’s not really used for TS.
He’s still really good for other game modes
Decisions decisions
Aluc is so far away for me he'll likely be dead by the time I can build him
But I wanna become a TS/NC centered account
Pretty sure lavatune still recommended first, and at least you can get some mileage out of elite Lysander.
I know lavatune shows up earlier in the prio list but tbh I don't see what use I could get out of him in TS rn
And seeing as I still need to regularly hit top 100 at least before switching focus to NC im kinda skeptical
So I'm looking for second and third and fourth opinions
ngl i think if you’re close to t100 ts, lys probably will not make the diff
You should be doing both rn tbh, working on 6 kills. Lavatune helps a lot. Lysander was used before but isn’t currently for NC. So I think the decision is still favored for lavatune
whereas there’s celhypos that are must in NC
Yeah not using emi or palmer in 5t. This pos good?
Lavatune also good for campaign and hypo tower…and like I said elite Lysander still good for TS
i would say don’t pull yet though, the new cele looks crazy (of course) and might be good in TS too
Nice. Swap Jerome and tamrus, also have a +1 cover on Jerome. (Preferably both)
probably a huge CR hero though, because she needs time to get going
+1 with 1-2M IS makes a huge difference on tam i’ve found
i usually also give jerome insight because it seems to work with knocking people down
Always running this
And this for Jerome
Very good. I just mention it because I hate when ppl run something like that, and the comp crumbles because they have dancer on Aathalia or something.

My highest +1 xD
idkk you can test both
but in general insight is a stat that you can “only” really get from collections
ts is just a probability game so it could work
but full attack is always good
probably doesn’t matter much lmao
I do have 6kills rn with teams that are very questionable
That’s really nice
wish i used miracle so i could’ve carded a perfect coll
Very nice, your teams will look a little goofy early on. I wish I focused more on NC. After you get top 100 TS shift focus to NC IMO
I love TS tho so kept my focus there. 
Goofy teams you said ?
Thank God for those people on reddit who post the most budget comps ever I would have never figured out r5 or R6 by myself
that solise team is crazy
I KNOW RIGHT
im so close to a 6k, i just need either si40 sion or some other uber budget team with him
And I really wanted it to work so I gave it to him
ah nice
Because it takes like 6min something to kill with those teams
7m30s lmao
7m… that’s gotta be one of the highest time 6 team clears I’ve seen.
but kill is a kill

Listen I also tried the more standard comps and it lands me a 3 kill at best
Gotta start somewhere
i really want the new R6 after marci leaves to be a normal kill
not some funky healing comp
She's gonna get out of NC as I get 9f on her lol
Might just send my 300 dim emblems towards cha then
so maybe i’ll pull anyways
same for me, either cha or sjw prob
but cha seems way better and sjw is doing very well at 20360
Yeah I'll probably do the same even tho my SJW cannot get E60 rn
you had a decent kill on R5 right, with a very budget cha
what’s her minimum?
To be fair my dancer is better based on stats xD
damn that’s nice
303e30 shed probably start getting some nice time but you need build westi for this comp
i can merc her
I still have to merc sion :<
oof
Yes but for solo Aathalia she’ll die too easy, I would only use that in ashem and even then I’d prefer a decent +1 cover. Really good for NC tho
im close to getting velu si30 and sion si40
Yeah I know, never using that for pvp
hopefully that’ll make a big difference
Yea it rng’ed between 10 and 14 secs.
looks niice
That ain't budget
why is rosa with half a shirt? is that intentional
I did e41 for Cha, but I’d recommend e60 for sjw and 9f for cha and then see how your time is before pushing cha past e30
if i can kill with cha at 20000 im quite content ngl
She needs Crit on her collection not Crit DMG right ?
think so
Hope you read my edit: I DO NOT recommend e60 cha, just e60 sjw and then see minimal investment to get a good time for that round
i don’t have the money to upgrade SJW gear to T4 because of the 400M i need to spend on bait
Hmm, dims gear still worth imo
Yeah gold actually became a thing I'm limited on xD
Chest can be neglected but the other ones are all good
You guys are getting dim gear....
i’ve got 900K
doesn’t chest give crit? wouldn’t that be nice with the e60 and cha
Still have some saved up and 30M rn but its still rough
I haven't done the diamond to leaves one
Just use the leaves for the 10,000 diamonds, and then save or use baits till reso 18 imo
Maybe? I’d have to check, but pretty much all the guides I’ve seen recommend boots = wep > head >> chest
Don’t use diamonds for leaves, that’s whale territory. You need diamonds for cele/hypos and for pulling dragons
Reso 18 first then you can think about awak pets. And even then this one is more than likely going to be outshined by the next woke pet.
Boots give Crit
just found a way to make 30960 sion work for R3, but now suddenly i can’t kill R5 anymore …
so close yet so far
Sjw and cha generally go in r5 
You probably can’t use it all but it might be helpful
With your box who did you merc over talimar?
Estrilda
I heard she’s really good in r6
I hcp’ed talimar to mythic and that got a decent time for r6. Obviously better time if more built, but that’s a lot of copies away
rosaline gives a better time than shuna in r5 ?
thats what i was using, with tam instead of whoran for the dive, but my cha is 20000 lmao
it used to kill but i can’t get it to
For me it was marginally better, shuna and lucilla are good subs though
I see I see
@carmine sequoia yoo can i ask u smth
Ofc
Can I see ur 5t : D
woaah thx a lot
just dont have daemia and alivida and the new mauler hero
what rank u getting on those
Im getting in and out of t100 so 1% ranking i hope
But future may hold a 2% for me
When 6-7T

If you wanna sure
You can try if you want
wdym
sending box
kk lol
No im just slow and stupid
Its okay we can be stupid together
😔
Try uh making envy team more toned down and try to make the lower winrate ones better maybe shuna down to rem team and put thoran aswell to get 3/2 and a tank for her with timeline mahbe?
Just experiment a lil
Huh so envy team put shuna to rem then ?
But ask others
Im not the smartest in thisngame
I trial error most things if people dont help me

lol it’s ok lol ur doing better than me at least
Maybe try this idk how good it is
Maybe swap lib and envy tho the fourth team might lack dmg
I don't think you can do much more with a box this small
Idk how useful daemia and Alyca are at one copy
😔
Not at all useful
Sowwy
Woah you have vufira
What do you guys think of these ones 🦧
I could slot in the gamemaster god guy

Misha with envy for sure
Don’t know over who though
tamrus maybe?
and swap tamrus with shuna
maybe

what do you think
i like putting rem and shuna together they are so cute
…the teams needs a little work lol
Both Ashem and watha lost wr this time around. So prob old teams better. Surprised its Simona>Lib
Just acting like a healer mainly.
I will run it for another round to see with maybe rng but it will prob be skewed since its close to transition
Ah, interesting, did your rank go up or down significantly?
went down by a few spots only. Seal had higher wr so balanced out the loss 70% instead of 50 so could just be rng
That’s surprising Shem did worse as well. If you’d like can have liberta replace Emilia and put Simona back in ashem
Simona isnt that bad in the sence she does mr shred I guess and energy drain. Lib just heals from the fights I have seen and gives energy but no real damage. Thats all on dae
Yea, looks like she’s helping more in Aathalia comp anyway
Will leave it for one more round to see with rng but that Ashem wr went down is suprising. And by 8% at that
Could try emi lysander maybe
I think liberta > Emilia, especially because she’s uninvested
Was considering e30 tbh. Isnt 20330 min?
But yeah in theory my 30960 Lib should do better xD
Yea basically. I just don’t feel as comfortable commenting on engraving priority too much because I don’t know your other needs. And she’s only in the meta for a little while for newer accounts
Yeah if I had more than 1 e30 rn I would do her but kinda want to save for any e60s
I would prob run Randle Ivan over randle Rem for starter. Then def no mehira, charm doesnt work well, and move some heros
AShem Simona Bronn Tam
Envy Rem Shuna Jerome JoA
Lib Naroko Gorren Shuna Villa
Randle Ivan Palmer (Maybe Lysander?)
Atheus Mira Knox Misha (Flora or Talene if you have) or Thoran Seal
Do you have Talene or Flora? If yes, put maybe Misha or Atheus T1
t4 maybe Brutus last slot
Maybe even Alyca t1 but not sure
same with normal lyca maybe in t4

I know they look bad but they had the best wr out of the teams lol
And my box is small so my team can’t be perfect
What rank did you end?
T26
That’s really good
yea I know from t100 is really good just wanted t20
I think I have let me check
I think I don’t have both
I don’t understand lol
I went down to 6 percent 😔
U mean Randle Ivan than Ivan rem ?
Ahhh let me try these
Yes
So I use those teams even in the 7t rounds like ignore the 6 and 7th team right ?
I can’t find flora
Or talene don’t know how they look like
Nvm I have one copy of talene
Probably
Who is flora I found one copy of talene but don’t know who is flora
Is one copy enough ?
Yes
This is flora
Can you show the teams you did now? And you didn't find flora, right?
Nope nope
Can’t find her
The ones I got top 4 percent with or the ones ur reccomended ?
Sorry for late ans I was in college lol
Who is joa
The ones I recommended. Wanted to get a good overview again
Joan of arc. The dimensional hero you have. She is kinda useless in general but because you lack heros she might do fine. And envy team kinda strong
She is bonded with names
Names
The healer
U said shuna twice
Once in lib team and once in rem envy
It would be nice to use Shuna twice 
More talene into seal for sure. She is only good for stall. Move misha back into envy and shuna from envy into lib
Positioning:
For the randle team, lysander back middle
Maybe ican back and instead of lyca a brutus on frontline but not sure
Envy team move Misha fronline and Envy backline
Better now ?
I changed the teams what do you guys think rank 81 rn

I feel shemira team is weaker now :(
Maybe give it liberta

And aurelia to ivan randle

What region?
Was considering swapping lib and Ivan.
Looks good. Not too sure about t4 tbh since I don't know how lysander will do with randle ivan and lyca might be a liability in this burst region
What were the wrs last time?
Rn they are like this and my box if it helps
No I mean the teams before that. You did run randle ivan already, no?
Yeah Simona>Lib in ashem and Old watha team also better. Damn
Dropped another 4 places so no major decline but still worse.
4 places could def just be matching rng too
Nooo
It was over 2 calcs that the wr was lower.
Considering envy stayed perfectly same wr and the other 2 were consistently lower wr
Then I do think swapping lib and ivan might be better
Yippie
Aside from that teams look pretty good. For 6t maybe use your these teams looks pretty optimal
Ty my goat
@trail depot been running the asaf comp(naroko rem lan dae) and it’s doing okay
kept me in t100 for the entirety of 5t
but it’s getting 20-30 percent
which is enough but not good lmao
Nice. Sometimes it starts off really weak then gets to a respectable WR at 6t because ppl have to spread out their power.
Can I see the full results
thats rn
also had all of these from before
didn’t change it just to see how it would span over more time
@floral igloo the results so far
Can you send old wr? And how did rank change?
It was like top 3 percent for a while then dropped to top 6
Rn I’m top 4
Percent *
Okay so all teams improved overall except for seal that suffered quite a bit
Surprised that randle ivan did as good as rem ivan
Maybe lysander and lyca arnt the way
Lib team is good tho
So what do u think
Maybe lysander back into seal? I guess it did decent, no idea why. Villa shouldn't be the main difference, just keep talene in there
We could try with totem guy and maybe brutus to tank a bit?
Who is totem guy
Oh yeah he is linked to Joan of arc
Ah ok
Trish prob doesnt do anything at that investment so not her I'm thinking
Maybe dae. Has some uses at e in bossing so maybe she can work minimally
She wouldn’t work PvP tho right ?
Not sure, you don't really have anything left so the best of the worst is the goal
Maybe just try to swap lyca with brutus and put brutus fronline and Ivan or randle backline. Can you maybe look at some fights to see what kills the comp quickly?
Kk bet
From what I’m seeing Lyca and Lysander almost always insta die
And only palmar Ivan and Randle live
And the seal team against rem Knox just got one shot lmao
And they don’t lose to the team itself
They just lose to Mira in general
Like they live long enough but Mira kills
Try this
Kk bet
So I link Joan of arc to Trish?
Do you have flight on all your supports?
Then look at your collections and see what you’re using. Put flight on all your supports.
Oh, if they’re linked then add Knox to ashem
I linked her to scarlet instead
Trish is linked to shuna
Okay that’s fine, just use Knox in ashem
Yea looks good
You bet.
Bah
Hopefully this works. Team 1 doing great, team 2 sucks. Can anyone help me work out a better team 2 please? Thanks!
Team 1 replace athoran with Eiron, team 2 add Athoran Mira rem and Palmer
Rem is linked to Eiron so can’t use both. (Probably not the best idea but not sure who else I should link her too)
That’s fine, can put Jerome or abrutus in ashem
Who is the one I’m keeping on team 2?
Misha or asolise
Ok thanks! I’ll let ya know how it goes.
At your stage TS doesn’t matter too much, focus on pushing all the other content
Well currently stuck on 31-24 (but getting close to figuring out something to get past it). 401 on tower is hitting the dumb rating must be higher bit. Everything finished that is available in PoT. Temporal Rift I’m struggling to get past floor 80.
I would link your rem to Mira so that you can take rem to e30 etc.
@trail depot any thoughts for 6/7t? I’m pretty bad at fire lol. No skylan still sucks. No velu is bad.
I made some changes. any obvious mistakes?
It shows you have skylan in these photos?
Oh shoot this is the r52 acc
I meant to send r47 but both are important ig 😂

Could I see your current results
Here ya go.
Does sjw work even at low invest?
Thanks man, I appreciate you T-T
6t I would do alna sion with alyca Misha lan backline. And move Estrilda to dims, can add Ivan to ashem
Is this fine even with no velu?
M+ velu is one big point of struggling
My bad, can do rim or talimar. Can do a quick test against someone on your friends list and see which one you think is stronger.
From what I’ve seen can probably expect 50-60% rn at 6t.
My ashem comp is shredding rn, obviously higher invest though.
I’m running a different one on the good account. What’s nice is neither of them require Estrilda.
oh that does seem good
Yea you can try it if you like, or with Jerome Daemia Ivan for 6t.
….si30 rem
wasn't me. just saying.
I’m not usually this high at this stage. 
It actually wasn’t me though lol
Yea I believe you 
You’re going crazy. Plus you usually come back on calc day lol
I mean I did just start the acc properly a week ago 
Wait which one was your main acc the r52 or r47?
Haha, yea a little bit, my 7th team will be crap, but better than the rbsg I ran last debuff.
I believe you’ll get t20 I mean how can’t you your the goat
Just gotta hope for good matchmaking
R47 is main rn. R52 the pilot is awol so I might just make it my alt.
Ah I see
Yes but my champ pool is actually pretty weak, for other people they’d probably place 50-70 with it. 
I’m focusing on getting a great result with the good account. Been finishing around 7th more recently so shooting for top 3 this time
Watha uses cover in Ts right?
Definitely
Why envy so shit? Any investments or positioning I should improve? I guess Albedo si30 would be good
albedo si30 just gives them attack, but envy is the one doing damage
so doesn’t matter that much
but you’re in t30-40 right
its not horrible
should i just put lib back with watha and have a throwaway team? can’t imagine 14% is even worth it
Albedo is standard on that Envy comp but it's probably a lot more invest reliant + feels a lot weaker this time round
She does also provide protection for Envy with her guard, but it's quite reliant on her having high invest (something that would've been more common several years ago)
Funny that we almost have the same t6 xD
lmao yea
pretty crazy
i remember asking advice about if i should restart
and you convincing me i should
and now im only 25 spots behind you 😈
nah jk
isn’t it the 3f only? that she gets 10s of immunity if someone dies
i’m not quite sure
As in her actual stats for HP & Def
Envy weaker this debuff, and it’s too much protection for too little dmg, so that’s why ppl usually have velu or Estrilda in the comp and don’t use Misha for envy dims
Does misha work with sion?
Yes she’s often paired with sion
But tbh I don’t think Misha + Ivan do well together in the same comp. Maybe it’s just a visual bug it looks like when she ults it breaks the shield away too.
You could move Aurelia to sion comp with Misha and add Ivan to ashem tho. Put Daemia in pos. 3 as well
Yeah he detaches. Was just thinking in what comp velu is without the other heros
Ah, where were you at before roughly?
I think you’re at the limits of your box rn. Even getting those win rates with those teams is really good.
Around 4 percent sometimes getting into 3 percent
And last ts around 6 and 8 percent
Let’s gooooo
When can I get to top 100
Is my box and rank good for 130 days account ?
Maybe another few months with more heroes built
Like 2 more ?
Is it considered good or a bit behind ?
It really depends on how soon you get more heroes built, you should focus on pushing campaign and towers etc
I dunno but you’re around top 5% or so, so not that bad
Bet so push towers and campaign
Yep
I would sacrifice your team 6 to make your others better
Try replacing Raine with tamrus in envy comp. Ivan replaces shuna. And then Randle and shuna replace abrutus and vika.
Forgot to do teams and my preset teams are sporting amazing win rates for no reason even tho I dropped to 8% ranking lol
Did try to move things around a bit still but im quite lost
Tyty
aurelias e30 looks good but e60 looks super collection dependent?
Her si30 is mediocre, it’s the si40 that’s really good but expensive
So can sit on si20 for a bit until you want to push her to si40, e60 is also needed and a good erosion collection
She ramps her Erosion from regular skills too, so E60 is always important
Just that a good coll makes it start at a much higher initial buff
Any tuneups I can make to these teams? From watching the replays, Envy is just getting fried too fast, but I don't know how to fix this without ruining my other teams 
crazy work, gg!!
@trail depot
Sup?
That's the same crit as just reso gear
Oh it's 18% at T3 reso I've been T3 reso for like 4 or 5 yrs so I forget that below it exists
Wait who’s acc is this?
basically his alt
just building envy and alna got me from being 2-3% in 6t to #60

