treasure-scramble

[fierce plaza]

Why? They've already done it once before. And done plenty of double celhypo releases. It's not something new.

[tawdry hatch]

more or less the same as usual, just albedo in stall and no mae

[tawdry hatch]

gavus/eugene technically wasn't even a double woke, it was more lenient

because we had the Gavus release, and now we're getting a Eugene release, except with Eugene we already have a ton of free copies

[fierce plaza]

Maybe they'd do a delayed release on one again like they did Gavus/Eugene. But still they did it once so double wokes isn't a wild thing to expect.

[tawdry hatch]

I hope they do a double woke like gavus/eugene was, that was better than 2 normal wokes for f2p

[fierce plaza]

I wish they'd just release the rest of the 4f wokes this cycle. I need another mauler and wilder for tower

At least mauler

[unique palm]

I’m out of the loop, do we have a confirmation or guess on when the next “double woke” is coming ?

[fierce plaza]

Nah there was just 2 heros that popped up in datamining. Don't even know what they are. If they stick to normal woke release schedule we wouldn't get new wokes for like 50-60 days. But I wouldn't be surprised if they do something weird with the schedule because Eugene is the next release

I have a feeling they aren't gonna wait a full cycle for the next woke release because Eugene isn't a brand new hero

[tawdry hatch]

no

so far everyone has been basing these assumptions off of leaked game files

Draconis (new faction) and 2 wokes from it

[rough hare]

its looking more like new faction plus 1 rare, 1 epic, 1 woke

[tawdry hatch]

makes sense

[fierce plaza]

Would be so stupid for them to add a new faction it already takes way too long to cycle through the 6 factions for new wokes

[tawdry hatch]

so it's like a 4f faction then, not a CHAD

[rough hare]

floofs leaks

speculating that pure blood is the woke

[unique palm]

Ah interesting, thanks for the updates :)

[copper quail]

No dims leak?

[rough hare]

No ideaaaa

[copper quail]

Hmmm my 180k poe coins are waiting

[rough hare]

you hoarder

[upper nexus]

I'm bouta leak

[copper quail]

Ngl, it got reduce it should be 200k max , I bought wukong for swap

And as planned , im not gonna build Alna

[rough hare]

[copper quail]

[upper nexus]

Why not

[copper quail]

Like look , my account barely change

[copper quail]

Why build a skinless hero when you can build a hero with skin

[rough hare]

Sames

[copper quail]

Not e80 alucius

Shame

[rough hare]

later, saved for eugene rn

[copper quail]

Oh true , you should have 1* by Eugene drop since he's summon able

[rough hare]

tommorow is gonna be fun for me

[copper quail]

Is it tommorow?

[rough hare]

Eugene 309e60, Lucious 3*, ashem 3*, maybe alyca 3*

[copper quail]

Atalia ew

[rough hare]

and RC1000

[copper quail]

Wait which unit you missing ? Brone?

[rough hare]

nah some hypos that aint needed

leofric etc

[copper quail]

Oh make sense , btw you knew brone combo?

[novel nimbus]

did you do kalthin

[rough hare]

i did kal

[novel nimbus]

bronn is eh

[copper quail]

With Ashem and the orb girl

[rough hare]

bronn is HCP and done for the ship

[copper quail]

Kalthin is weird , he's a miss ngl

[fringe light]

the orb girl?

[upper nexus]

I like athalia scissorhands

[novel nimbus]

Simona

[rough hare]

for small accounts yeah skip, for me i kinda need him

[novel nimbus]

It's a bell

[copper quail]

Celestial girl.. that puts a big galaxy orb

Forgot what she calls ...

[fringe light]

Morael?

[novel nimbus]

Tf?

[copper quail]

Yeye moreal , bronn , Ashem ,

[fringe light]

Why Morael?

[novel nimbus]

Ah pulls into bronn's path

[copper quail]

I think it's because of f3?

[novel nimbus]

Ngl there are probably way better

[copper quail]

Nono it kills Ashem shadows , which bronn make big buffs or somehow wait let me find the soueces

[rough hare]

bronn is tragic ngl

[novel nimbus]

Hold on if bronn morael is a thing lemme go HCP bronn real quick

[fringe light]

Ew no, no comeback from Morael plz

[copper quail]

O wait it's malkarie

Lmao not moreal

[fringe light]

[copper quail]

Malkarie + bronn Ashem combo

[novel nimbus]

Makes sense

[fringe light]

skateboard girl than

[novel nimbus]

That was for ice

I doubt it would work otherwise

[rough hare]

i need to pull malk next at some point

[copper quail]

It said that it's malkrie execute Ashem shadow , bronn will get the soul then buff team PP

[novel nimbus]

Does it? Usually skills like that exclude summons

Unless it's some weird ashem thing

[copper quail]

Yeye shadows is consider summon

[fringe light]

Does Malk execute summons?

[novel nimbus]

Yeah 9f

[fringe light]

[novel nimbus]

Wait no e60

[fringe light]

that's somewhat worse

[novel nimbus]

Wait no e30

LMAO

[fringe light]

[copper quail]

No I remember it's eirthe f3 or e30

[novel nimbus]

I just checked it's e30

[copper quail]

Its a hyper buff team

Just put a hyper ad carry on that

It's weird whel shit they found xD

[rough hare]

i aint seenit used anywhere lmao

[copper quail]

It's weird like it's super hyper carry , you can try it tho ( Ashem , bronn , malkrie , Jerome, Atalia ) for the first day of TS

[rough hare]

i dont have malk

[copper quail]

[dusk tundra]

Bruh is malkirie meta in the ashem comp?

Together with bronn

[dusk tundra]

Oh lmfao i didnt see this, the coincidence

[woeful plume]

Does anyone actually has screenshots for that team?

Or is it mostly just heresay

[lime zinc]

Well krakens do use it

[tawdry hatch]

yes

[dusk tundra]

Do You happen to know at what investments they start to be meta in ashem comp?

[lime zinc]

Malk was kraken meta for AwShem even before Bronn, but Bronn made it stronger

[dusk tundra]

Do You have any SS of it?

[tawdry hatch]

I have 0 idea nah, don't have either

[woeful plume]

Well I tested, malk does execute ashem's clones. Interesting

[dusk tundra]

Is it considered a Bug? Cuz i dont wanna invest into them to get hotfixed

[woeful plume]

Idk malk is supposed to execute summons but I didn't know ashem's clones counted as summons.

[dusk tundra]

Did anyone ask belinda or someone else?

[lime zinc]

Does executing the spirits deal dmg to the original even

[woeful plume]

Dunno it's hard to tell

If it does it's not a noticeable amount

I can't even tell the hp dropping when watching at X1 speed

[lime zinc]

Bronn only buffs the team with his e60 from executing the spirits 15s into the battle anyway
Because he has to actually reach the enemy side
Although obvs his defensive buffs & health-loss are also good

[dusk tundra]

Hmm i was using filling heroes in ashem team anyway but maybe they will make the ashem team have a higher wr

[winged trail]

What would you guys recommend for third awaken after ashem and aathalia for ts?

[dusk tundra]

Abel/alyca/alucius/asaf but most likely alyca i Guess, but Abel better overall?

[wise whale]

whales

[winged trail]

Doesn’t Abel need other awaken supports to perform though?

So maybe not her?

[dusk tundra]

No? She can work with any buffer supp like lava, palmer, idk

[winged trail]

Oh I thought I read her winrate isn’t good without gavus etc

[true magnet]

only in very old regions

on normal debuffs (ice bad for her) I get ~70-75% WR with Abel team (No Gavus)

Gavus also beats AShem which is the comp that beats ABel most easily

[winged trail]

Got it

What about going gavus third?

[dusk tundra]

Bad choice

Unless Eugene is really broken with gavus

Wait till they get tested If You got doubts

[true magnet]

Gavus seems very unlikely to be third even if he is amazing with Eugene. you really need wokes that can carry as your early ones

he also supports wokes, so the fewer you have the worse that part of his kit is

[winged trail]

Thanks

Sorry last question how would you compare Abel and alucius since they kinda share some supports

[dusk tundra]

Abel has more use needs less investment

[winged trail]

Why did you put alyca most likely over abel?

[dusk tundra]

Alyca is used in TS nc Cr more, Abel is used everywhere tho, like guild bosses, AE

[winged trail]

Alyca is used more in ts than abel?

[true magnet]

ABel is 100% used in CR more, she is the carry on the highest damage team in (I think) every round

Alyca is the better TS hero overall but ABel is more of a carry which means she can be her own team. Lyca can sort of be but at a top level of competition and older regions she is more of a support and sub DPS

[winged trail]

Ah I see, alyca is stronger in ts but abel is more of a core

[dusk tundra]

Tbh with alucius Abel got pushed out of her normal team so i assumed alyca is better

[dusk tundra]

Yea She has a general purpose

[winged trail]

I’m more trying to optimize for a new region so considerations are slightly different

I guess abel turn

Thank you guys

[copper quail]

You should also consider that is only possible with a big investment Alucius

[trail swift]

scumble

[edgy pumice]

Sumble

[trail swift]

cumble

[carmine shale]

Umble

[trail swift]

e

[manic jungle]

crumblers

[inland grove]

mble

[dusk tundra]

Pleasure scrumble

[trail swift]

please crumble

[wise harbor]

Scrambled Eves

[manic jungle]

👍

[lime zinc]

Scrambling hard or hardly scrambled

[rough hare]

hardly hard

[lime zinc]

It happens with age, I'm sorry

[upper nexus]

Rock hard

[trail swift]

hock rard

[rough hare]

rock rock

[trail swift]

https://tenor.com/view/kuro-iliya-fate-gif-13998686

[upper nexus]

"I'm gonna kiss your neck"

[civic badger]

Gay

[dusk tundra]

Rock solid

[minor prawn]

"I E80d Asolise."

[trail swift]

the good kind tho

[civic badger]

Ooo

[wise whale]

whales

[maiden crag]

Best si40 units? Ive spared up all si40 chests so i dont make any mistakes

Currently thinking about ashem and aathalia and save the others for future usage

[lime zinc]

I wouldn't do AwShem SI40
AwAtha SI40 helps for NC, not sure about CR

[winged trail]

what is your guys's recommended stargazing order?

lib -> daemia -> alna -> lucilla -> lava?

[lime zinc]

Lava is def way before Luci

[winged trail]

Switch lava and luci then?

I had it that way cause I’m not sure I would have a third awaken unit up and running before 4th celepog, so I dunno if lava will have a team right away

Lava also has high investment req from what I understand

[cunning ruin]

Lib > Dae/Alna (can’t go wrong with either) > Lava > Luci
With
aShem > aAtha > aLyca/aBel/aSaf?

Just my 2 cents tho

Heavily biased towards aSaf personally

[dapper lance]

I recently told someone to follow their heart with respect to saf/lyca dilemma

they went with lyca

[copper sphinx]

[dapper lance]

what are you doing outside your dungeon

[copper sphinx]

taking fresh air

[dapper lance]

fresh hair

[copper sphinx]

can't make typos anymore

[dapper lance]

[copper sphinx]

how u doing friend

[dapper lance]

busy at work trying to distract myself

[copper sphinx]

quit job and full distraction time

[dapper lance]

job enables afk arena amongst other things smh

i quit job i quit afk

[copper sphinx]

[dapper lance]

[copper sphinx]

wait that sounds bad

[winged trail]

How come you would say asaf over alyca?

[cunning ruin]

Personal bias

General utility seems around the same and each have their respective TS modifiers in which they shine.

Can’t go wrong with either

[dapper lance]

lyca because cute

[winged trail]

Which team does lava tune go in if your first 3 awaken are shem athalia and asaf/lyca?

[dapper lance]

shem

[winged trail]

oic

[trail swift]

cio

[civic badger]

Gg

[trail swift]

gG

[woeful plume]

@dusk tundra can u test kalthin as ezio replacement in rem comp on day 1?

[novel nimbus]

I'll do that for you too

[woeful plume]

thanks ❤️

[trail swift]

you could replace ezio with walker day 1 and it'd still get like 90%

[copper quail]

Replace Alyca with lyca trust

[trail swift]

i only just got alyca so i've always run asaf there :q

still 90%+ day 1, although asaf isn't exactly lyca 😛

finally get to try alyca team this ts

[copper quail]

A build in Eugene nukes teams on my region xD

[trail swift]

mine's 309 atm

i'm gonna decide if i'ma pull him to star or just do it slowly through stores once i get enough shards to e30

[copper quail]

E30-60 is big for survivability

[trail swift]

yeh

just no point atm i only have 2000 shards :Q

[copper quail]

Hella big ngl , might worth tho

[copper quail]

2000 shard?

[trail swift]

i'm definitely gonna e60 him

you need 3750 shards for e30

[copper quail]

Aaaa

[trail swift]

or 3650 whatever it is

[copper quail]

For engraving

I haven't spending shit even for Abel until I see which dimension they gonna release

XD ,even thought I have resources for +40 , E60 , F9

[trail swift]

i'm sitting on 2100 epic chests lol

i'm less finicky about shards/cores though

income rate for them is pretty decent

[dusk tundra]

[trail swift]

[dusk tundra]

Dont have his execute

So Eugene +40 worth?

[trail swift]

doubt

[dusk tundra]

Guys how much investment malkrie needs in ashem team? And does she work without bronn?

[trail swift]

i usually see her at 30960 but she's a whale build right now so not vry surprising

[dusk tundra]

And bronn?

I could 30960 her now but If bronn is core to this i aint got enough

[trail swift]

who

[copper quail]

@rough hare lemme barrow Abel next week if she's free , I wanna rerecord my guild boss , thanks

[rough hare]

lemmie check its not reserved

[copper quail]

If it's not no worries , I'll look for other abel

Mines still not 1* Soo.... Can't really make a differences hays

[rough hare]

Not reserved 🫡

[copper quail]

Hell ye thanks hahahaha

[rough hare]

You still with olympians?

[copper quail]

Yep why?

[rough hare]

Wanna join the FS discord chat? Make it easier for you to merc stuff and lots of OS friends are there

[copper quail]

Yeye drop me the link

[rough hare]

Dm'd you

[civic badger]

Fs discord?

[trail swift]

it's a trap

[copper quail]

[minor prawn]

[trail swift]

i still don't have a single copy of deer lol, so can't reso

[fallen patrol]

Is rowan used in TS?

[trail swift]

not lately, mostly cause abel is surrounded by people who will steal her blue pot these days

[fallen patrol]

i see, i still have 1 grit chance left, looking to use it for a TS meta hero

[lime zinc]

There's not really many 4Fs that are actually meta in TS, or the few that are would still rely on specific AWs

[fallen patrol]

I'm also browsing the media on this channel, looking to see what 4F's are included on their formations

You're right, not that many 4Fs lol

[trail swift]

jerome, tamrus, palmer, lady simona (for ashem), some others...

ivan is huge

naroko

[fallen patrol]

I have all of the mentioned ascended

Don't have a built woke yet tho, still at 330 TE

Welp, i'll just try to get by this season's TS with what i have again

[inland grove]

Yeah 4fs are just supports

[trail swift]

basically

lilith is a shit really

[dusk tundra]

are u f2p

[dusk tundra]

I mean count the 4f heroes

5 out of 20 not bad actually

[trail swift]

there's almost 100 4f tho

~60 chad

[upper nexus]

Things to note for fog debuff?
No faction bonus, Albedo bad, Jerome buff no LB bonus... what else?

[trail swift]

this debuff exists to bully albedo and it's weird ;q

[raven ginkgo]

glad i dont have her yet lol

[inland grove]

They need to update these buffs/debuffs

[trail swift]

a no awk debuff would be fun

[inland grove]

That's crazy I was just typing that

[trail swift]

i don't see them ever doing that cause awks are their $$$

[inland grove]

Tru they don't want us to have fun

[upper nexus]

No awk debuff sounds pretty cool ngl

[trail swift]

it'd bring out some unique/oldschool teams

[sacred notch]

Alna grez

[winged trail]

Wait my acc is 3 weeks old and I’m in r47 with people who been playing for like 8 months? Is that right?

[lime zinc]

They don't split new regions until there's enough players that aren't super young

[minor prawn]

:3 weeks old

I cannot unsee it

[lime zinc]

:g

[winged trail]

Lol fixed that

[winged trail]

I knew that but I still thought it would be more frequent than that

[lime zinc]

It's probably slower because there's less new players these days

[wise whale]

whales

[weary geode]

Can someone help with some improvements?

[wise whale]

build this

[spark steeple]

whale

[glad plank]

Swapping ur athane is a crime

[weary geode]

Hm?

[wise whale]

y

[wise whale]

wrong

[frail barn]

https://tenor.com/view/break-monitor-i-swear-rage-gaming-gif-20207711

[spark steeple]

vip so high it can't be calced

[wise whale]

wrong

[wise harbor]

5* Lyca doesn't get along with not whale

[trail swift]

[wise harbor]

Why plan that far? Plan as you go because situations change

[spiral schooner]

In AShem / Luci-Berta / Ivan / Seal team would you choose M+ 30 Eugene over 20930 Robinhood and whose SP would you activate?

[dusk tundra]

Are these ok?

[true magnet]

AShem SP, I assume Eugene would not be great because M30 Eugene has been available for a long time now and hasnt appeared at the top level yet

[spiral schooner]

That makes sense

[trail swift]

i have a 0* 309 eugene. gonna try in ashem team later

probably needs engraving

[spark steeple]

For scrambling, it says 1 hour and 4 mins before scramble. This means I have that much time to put on different gear correct?

[raven ginkgo]

yes

[spark steeple]

Thanks man

[trail swift]

yeah but don't push it too close, i've had times where i did it within like 10mins and it didn't update

[true magnet]

ready to 'cramble my friends and enemies?

[woeful plume]

I don't think so

[cinder cargo]

Hey guys what's better

Ashem celepo kids awthalia, or awthalia in Alna rem Alyca

[true magnet]

Id imagine AShem kids

[cinder cargo]

Oke

[true magnet]

JD Im catching up in campaign

[trail swift]

luci is not a kid she's a 5,000 yr old demon wife

[true magnet]

[trail swift]

maybe i should actually buy dim gear for ezio if he's gonna stay in ts meta 🤔

[cinder cargo]

[trail swift]

i rly need to push campaign

can probably push like 5 chapters lel

thoran cheese tho 🤮

[true magnet]

thoran cheese the least of your problems the more you push

[trail swift]

sometimes it's super easy but a lot of the time these formations, my thoran doesn't ult

[sacred notch]

What chapter you on

[trail swift]

so i have to spent 15 mins messing with gear and pets and etc to get him to ult

46

[sacred notch]

RC?

[trail swift]

529 lol, way too high for my chap. been ignoring campaign forever

[sacred notch]

Fair enough lmao, I got an account, was in ch44 around 490rc. Now almost done with 48

[trail swift]

i used to always be like the lowest rc and had massive formation views but let it slip

or 2nd lowest etc

[sacred notch]

You've got a new follower, or maybe old follower. Dont know if I followed u on the old acct

[weary geode]

Because I don't have enough time to always swap the teams according of how they working as win rate

[wise harbor]

@weary geode You should still make an effort to, since each round are 12 hours apart, and sometimes even the slight changes can mean difference between going up rank or going downhill, and difference between top 100 and not top 100 is pretty big

[weary geode]

Well, I've gave up on top 100 since I'm constantly 1-2% and I've tried lot of times to change, but it always was the same or worse

Usually is downhill

[raven ginkgo]

Still get decent rewards in 1-2%, no?

[sacred notch]

Miss out on tg income but meh

[dusk tundra]

No TE unless top 100

[wise harbor]

Being in a big guild with guides help a lot

[dusk tundra]

yes, join mine

[wise harbor]

Unironically BnB Ami families actually good options to be able to perform better thanks to having people to help

[trail swift]

rob bank, whale, get top100. really that easy

[wise harbor]

If you whale you wouldn't settle with top 100, you would try for top 10

[trail swift]

top 10 is more kraken territory on some regions

[winged trail]

if my acc is like less than 3 weeks old what's a realistic expectation for TS placement on R47?

since i'm facing much older accounts right

[empty elbow]

less than 3 weeks f2p I’d assume you’d be placing like 80%

[winged trail]

i'm not f2p, i'm like a decent spender

[woeful plume]

then it depends on how much you spent, it's hard to gauge.

[empty elbow]

oh that depends on how much and how well you’ve spent then

send ur box

[wise harbor]

It doesn't depend on spending, it depends on your roster and your picks

[dusk tundra]

Depends on region too. Idk about r47 but r46 seems whaley

I could get top 100 in r44 with f2p acc

[winged trail]

aight i guess basically i just have to see

too many variables to predict

[wise harbor]

Well yeah, you can't predict what other people does, nor your matches

And even sometimes battle have RNG that make you lose despite having stronger team

[winged trail]

i mean sure but that's not really what the question was about

it's okay though, i got my question answered more or less

[dusk tundra]

Try too see leaderboard and look for an overachiever (smallest acc with highest rank).
Look at their comp > read the heroes skills > and base your ascending order/investment on that.

Meta moves very fast and all my early game knowledge went obsolete now.

[inland grove]

I leave blue to avoid DD and he followed me

I was like oooh I got a loss interesting lets see who beat me

[dapper lance]

he's attracted to fear

[inland grove]

I escaped asulgard only to find DD

[dapper lance]

[thin ermine]

[dapper lance]

[thin ermine]

confirming target is alive. mission complete

[raven ginkgo]

Which route u went this time? Green? lol

[inland grove]

middle one i think green

[wise harbor]

The route just offer illusion of you controlling your fate

At the end of the day if your roster is good you will achieve

[trail swift]

fo cheezy

[raven ginkgo]

Trueeee

[raven ginkgo]

Just go red every time lol

[inland grove]

fake news

day 1 is all that matters

if ur not 1st day 1 ur not treasure scrambling

[wise harbor]

[dusk tundra]

imagine touching ts teams before you reach 4t

[edgy pumice]

gabe said u suck

[dusk tundra]

fake news smh.
Bok's credibility points: -1.

[trail swift]

BNN

[dusk tundra]

nvm I wont shill here and get bonked

[trail swift]

🤔

why is slowmode still on

[minor prawn]

Eeeeh so close yet so far

[fair needle]

How good is Atheus E60? Worth invest for TS?

[minor prawn]

Idkkk Im a 1%-er

[trail swift]

looks like it's a bit more cc, i'm keeping him at e30

also my inn hates that dude. still 1f lel

301e30

[dusk tundra]

So this not good?

Or even better

[trail swift]

@dusk tundra what's your simona invest

[dusk tundra]

30960

[trail swift]

305e33 atm and not sure how high i wanna take her engraving.. e39 is vry tempting for mp + is nodes (already have haste)

[dusk tundra]

Im not that Smart so i cant give You advice

I either E30 or e60 heroes theres no between

[trail swift]

the in between is the sweet spot a lot of the time :q

not lately though since every fuckin hero requires e60

[dusk tundra]

Not an issue when You E60 every hero on release

[trail swift]

simona's e60 is MR reduction, pretty decent i guess but not huge

im corebroke

saving for eugene

[dusk tundra]

You didnt get all copies?

[inland grove]

Ur not first smh

[dusk tundra]

Bro its literally Dd😭

[trail swift]

i have him ascended, i just don't have shards/cores to e60 him lol

so haven't starred yet

[dusk tundra]

I was thinking to +40 him but we will see how well he does this ts

Oh wait i need to swap naroko with kalthin

Better now

Literally only 2 4f heroes in the first 3 teams lol

[trail swift]

waol

[woeful plume]

You don't have alyca?

[cinder cargo]

Kalthin?

Woah

[polar dune]

u tell em king

[dusk tundra]

whale

[rough hare]

🐳

[dusk tundra]

Exactly

[trail swift]

ayy

[rough hare]

e60 kal before jerome is a sin

[dusk tundra]

Doesnt IT fk up the teams?

[rough hare]

idk, i just know e60 jero is a good option

[dusk tundra]

dont you think i'd e60 jerome and palmer directly if ppl didnt tell me its bad because of idk what>?

@tawdry hatch neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeem

[tawdry hatch]

the problem with Palmer e60 is u do his atk nodes with it, and there's a risk of him having more than ABel and stealing buffs from her (since he buffs highest AR hero)

so if ur not planning on doing his atk nodes then both are safe

[dusk tundra]

i can skip nodes when doing e60?

[dusk tundra]

i mean would it be an issue if my abel has +40? doesnt that mean she has higher att?

[trail swift]

it’s not an issue with e67 and 18f

[tawdry hatch]

I mean, the entire reason of doing the e60 is for the nodes

[trail swift]

si40 is more attk than both of those i think

[tawdry hatch]

urs is fine because he's still si20, and she has a +2 coll

[tawdry hatch]

he wouldn't have more than her no

[tawdry hatch]

also u got abel past e60

usually abel is left at e44

[trail swift]

her coll attk is only 2.93%

fug collections i refuse to grind for them

[tawdry hatch]

plus 4%

[dusk tundra]

oh ok then i can get both to e60 cuz my abel and awthalia are +40

[trail swift]

palmer undoes it anyway

[tawdry hatch]

oh right, but yeah a 209e68 Palmer will have more attack than a 309e44 ABel, that's why we don't push it

I recently did my abel so that I can then do Dae, then Palmer

[trail swift]

i took mine to e60 planning to e6x later but never did

not sure if even worth now… he’s not the king of buffers he used to be

[dusk tundra]

so which has higher prio to e60? palmer or jerome?

[tawdry hatch]

he's still one of the best, and one of the few that actually needs atk related stats

[tawdry hatch]

Palmer

[trail swift]

but yeah if palmer attk is ever an issue you have plenty of options between si40, e67 and F dupes

and collections

[rough hare]

what about a 4036e88 abel?

[tawdry hatch]

I think you'd need a palmer with the same invest and an atk coll to overwhelm that

[glad plank]

this is f2p chat sir

[rough hare]

lemmie have a look what i can doo

[dusk tundra]

[tawdry hatch]

chat I've decided to not dupe just yet

[dusk tundra]

Im close

[rough hare]

yeah i think imma be okay

[raven ginkgo]

need more atk

[trail swift]

lel

[rough hare]

[tawdry hatch]

alt has nearly 40 maxed, nearly 700 red

[rough hare]

I need moreeeeeee

[tawdry hatch]

5 SG cards gg, eugene fun

[rough hare]

call me ikea cause im packing furniture

[tawdry hatch]

more si40's!!!!!

soon

[dusk tundra]

so it is safe to get +40 on him?

[tawdry hatch]

wut I have no idea

I'm not doing it until more testing

[raven ginkgo]

who do u have si40'd? @tawdry hatch

[tawdry hatch]

abel, liberta, watha

next plans are alyca, potentially eugene

moooreeee

[dusk tundra]

oh you reminded me to push hypo tower

[upper nexus]

Between bert and Athalia, who should I si40?

[tawdry hatch]

up to u

[raven ginkgo]

just reminded me as well thanks

[dusk tundra]

Kalthin just built different😎

[raven ginkgo]

mine not 9f or e60 😮

[trail swift]

i’m going to sleep

[upper nexus]

Does that mean they're on par?

[dusk tundra]

yea they kinda are

[upper nexus]

What's this about Athalia si40 making her worse?

[tawdry hatch]

old news, fixed now

[upper nexus]

Glad to hear it

[dusk tundra]

oh boy why alucius has such pathetic att rating lmfao

[wise harbor]

What investment?

[fringe light]

His damage scale on his def anyways

[dusk tundra]

ye but im running alucius with palmer so its bad if palmer has higher ATT, i had to remove palmer collection

looks like i gotta start e6x or e80 heroes now

[upper nexus]

#classic-questions message

Help please 🥺

[fringe light]

That's up to you, I'm chapter 50 and I don't have any hero more than e60 except my maxed Mulan

[dusk tundra]

I know You a whale dont bs me

[rough hare]

I mean alucious kinda wants e7x but youll end up just e80

[fringe light]

[dusk tundra]

yea might as well get him to e80 if he wants e7x

[rough hare]

i means its an extra 3k cores so i wouldnt

[dusk tundra]

whats 3k cores nowadays

[fringe light]

a lot

[rough hare]

almost an entire e60

[fringe light]

[raven ginkgo]

chump change

[rough hare]

thats why my alucious works and yours wont

[raven ginkgo]

whats ur at? @rough hare

[fringe light]

what do you mean by lvl 31, 39 and 40?

[rough hare]

currently 4011e72

[raven ginkgo]

hes trying to get to si40 with optimal reds and whites

[fringe light]

¸ohh

[dusk tundra]

Yapping

[raven ginkgo]

ooooh

[rough hare]

its 3t

[dusk tundra]

no thats 7t

[rough hare]

I’ll yap away tho thanks

[dusk tundra]

Bro is 1 game in and flexes on me

[rough hare]

i mean that was from last round so

[raven ginkgo]

hes rank 2 in r47 rn

[dusk tundra]

why you fking lie bruh you got eugene ascended

[rough hare]

yeah i got that as soon as he came out LMAOOOOO

[dusk tundra]

TS WASNT OUT WHEN HE CAME OUT

[polar dune]

Yapping

[dusk tundra]

who do you take me for? a fool?

[fringe light]

[rough hare]

i mean considering he was yes i take you as a fool

[dusk tundra]

unless you playing on test server i dont wanna hear

[rough hare]

eugene came out yesturday morning

[polar dune]

Indeed

[rough hare]

which means the first split today he was in TS as A

you dumb MF

[dusk tundra]

i thought you talking about last ts

dummie

[rough hare]

ROUND

[dusk tundra]

why do you send me screens from 2t

they dont count

[fringe light]

Reading is fundamental

[rough hare]

cause your flexing t2 at 2 teams so i thought id flex too

[dusk tundra]

i wasnt tho, i was flexing lucius 7t

[polar dune]

Gotta mention star gives 2.5% att so he is missing out on like 10%

Also assume his sht is actually optimal

[dusk tundra]

This boy running lucius without his SP

[rough hare]

in ashem team you wouldnt want his tho?

[dusk tundra]

yea but why you running him tho

he is useless

[rough hare]

same reason hes running 4 wokes in that team

fun i guess

[dusk tundra]

oh he stupid

[little bough]

This boy running ashem without her sp

[dusk tundra]

who loses for fun

[rough hare]

someone who doesnt play this game like their life depends on it

plus you only need to try like 1 or 2 days before calc

[polar dune]

Apologies , maybe tank just has rlly low atk

[rough hare]

have you tried e100 to fix that issue?

[polar dune]

possible

expensive fix however

[dusk tundra]

gotta give this fatty everything

[rough hare]

could also take attack off palmer coll

[polar dune]

the palmer doesn't have any atk on his collection

[rough hare]

lemmie guess thats 5M MP's then

[polar dune]

[rough hare]

@dusk tundra what VIP you at now?

[dusk tundra]

14

[rough hare]

17/18?

ah nice nice

[dusk tundra]

yea bro i aint that rich

[polar dune]

smell like broke in here

[dusk tundra]

not broke but not rich either

[rough hare]

19 yet?

[polar dune]

ages ago

[rough hare]

oh damn nice

[edgy pumice]

I’m 69

[wise whale]

bok

[dusk tundra]

E30 who? Malkrie for ashem team?

Or joa

Is She even used anymore?

Or eorin

[rough hare]

damn, so much that needs investment

[dusk tundra]

Im 6 months old

[thin ermine]

whoever u actually use often. im guessing ur still ts focused? given ur rank id consider swapping focus over to cr or even nc

[dusk tundra]

it was just luck getting t9

[thin ermine]

swapping over game focus once u have t50 ts stable is a nice strat. up to you

[dusk tundra]

i want to do it to nc

[thin ermine]

expensive but doable for u. focus on investing in the newest boss nc units then

[dusk tundra]

then to what i should switch😭

[thin ermine]

current newest boss is focused on wathalia ivan palmer. imma assume u have em well built?

[thin ermine]

r6 boss seems solid for what u got. lets c if ur missing any invest for r5

[thin ermine]

id invest a bit into silas hodgkin. imma ssume u merc waden?

asol works at L so

[dusk tundra]

Yep

[thin ermine]

yeah id try to push ur hodgkin and silas to min invest for that round

what time do u get on r5 typically?

[dusk tundra]

What investments silas hodgkin?

[thin ermine]

check afkit

[dusk tundra]

About 6 mins

[thin ermine]

just r5, not the entire thing

[dusk tundra]

Oh wait 1 sec

[thin ermine]

[dusk tundra]

1:20

[thin ermine]

on r5???

[thin ermine]

yeah u needa work on that r5

do u have L asol?

[dusk tundra]

Ye

[thin ermine]

or even run naro r5 lol should be like 1 min max

try to look at leaderboard comps, and c what invests they have. u can then copy pasta

[dusk tundra]

Will try asol

[thin ermine]

good luck. def checkout afkit rec for silas/hodgkin invest. u need those

[dusk tundra]

Thx

[thin ermine]

np!

[dapper lance]

yw!

[thin ermine]

my fav person~
how long until ur back...i lurk in OS cause of u

[dapper lance]

soon^tm

[thin ermine]

[dapper lance]

btw eugene op

[thin ermine]

superb in nc i saw

[dapper lance]

and ts

[thin ermine]

not sure abt ts?

where!

rem?

[dapper lance]

i replaced ezizh with him in wuc comp

so i can get the daddies together

[thin ermine]

lmao

:solisenoted:

does it do better than ezizh?

[dapper lance]

its only day 1 but i havent had 100% for this long in literal months haha

[thin ermine]

ill give it a go when i get my hands on eugene. trying to stay patient hehe

[true magnet]

Afkguys infographic put him in AShem comp

[lime zinc]

He'll make attacker-oriented modes even more of a meme with counter-teaming

[dapper lance]

I'm my own guide

[copper sphinx]

(Hi friend)

[dapper lance]

[copper sphinx]

How u doing mate

[dapper lance]

im at work

[copper sphinx]

Oh

Terrible then.

I wanted to ask you, what’s your stance on kalthin, I’m getting opinions here and there to make a choice between him and olg

[dapper lance]

both meh unless youre really into pvp imo

i feel like kalthin is better but only by the smallest of margins; no proof lmao just feelings

[copper sphinx]

I mean, I have 800 SGs saved up and wanted to pull something, but yeah, saw him in CR and TS and he looked interesting

Still thinking about it

[dapper lance]

im prob not the best person to ask tbh

when i tested in ice, i got similar wr between olg/kal

this is the base comp:

shem edwin test simona silas vesperio

test was either olg or kal

gonna run similar tests after 6t, but idk both feel really mid haha

[copper sphinx]

I see I see, no worries I asked for many opinions here and there,
So far everyone said that kalth was a bit better but as you said, not meta defining units

Have yet to make a choice but since all the meta stuff is done I am now attacking more niche/mid units

[dapper lance]

if you cant decide then give alyca stars

bbg deserves all the stars in the world uwu

[dusk tundra]

Funny

[copper sphinx]

I am not to the point where I can star wokes

Would rather build new ones, missing wucius and gen 1/mae, else we chilling

[dapper lance]

[copper sphinx]

unless you can fund me somehow there bbg will get all the stars

but until then 1* is the way

[dapper lance]

https://tenor.com/view/chest-afk-journey-thoran-no-u-gif-2009266732597413472

[copper sphinx]

I can't fund someone that has everything 5* :wtfisthis:

[winged trail]

from a pure TS point of view should i go merlin before mulan?

[dapper lance]

in the higher ranks, i find myself using merlin more often than mulan

[dusk tundra]

I Guess so

[winged trail]

I was thinking Merlin enables the dim team core whereas mulan is more of a flex slot as far as I can tell

[lime zinc]

Merlin isn't necessarily what enables dims, but he is standard for them

For a newer player Mulan would have more impact, but when it comes to top meta she isn't used much anymore
A newbie would be several years off copying top meta though

[dusk tundra]

Why is lucius such a god?

nvm gavus is the one dealing dmg

[winged trail]

What would mulans impact be?

(purely from ts perspective)

[dusk tundra]

So is malkrie meta in ashem team?

[dusk tundra]

Her 9f that will make her cast her stomp at the start of battle.

She is really good for PvP in early game because you could target squishy backline with her.

Less impactful as you leave early game, but at this point you might already have Merlin if your LCT rank is high enough.

Also she might need t4 gear on wep, boots, and helm at some points for ACC stat.
She could miss her opener otherwise.

[trail swift]

tis the season again

[cinder cargo]

what the kraken are those comps

I wonder if abel would work in lucius's place

[dapper lance]

i was testing in friend arena without lucius and its worse; gavus entry dr allows for enough time to get lucius to do his ult for shields

super tanky

[woeful plume]

Alright ref lets ring the bell

[dapper lance]

without lucius it kinda just melts, doesnt ult fast enough

[inland grove]

Sheeesh big

[trail swift]

whales everywhere

[raven ginkgo]

someone say whales?

[polar dune]

Amount of 40 in that pic , im an only fan now @dapper lance

[dark kraken]

@dapper lance do u have t5 planned

or nah

[alpine grove]

ASafiya or ALyca?

I already have 2 copies of ALyca and no copies of ASafiya

[thin ermine]

wyca then~

[dark kraken]

stop the count

[trail swift]

https://tenor.com/view/hancock_whale-gif-12151079

[inland grove]

Faanny number ahhaha

[inland grove]

Hacker

[woeful plume]

All the cherry blossom trees near my house have bloomed

[upper nexus]

Pics or it didn't happen

[wise harbor]

How about now

[trail swift]

thats real japanese

[inland grove]

All the sakura trees near their house have bloomed

Sugoi

That is a treasure scramble moment indeed

[dusk tundra]

Bro why rem sucks that much

[trail swift]

yeah my rem has been dipping lately, usually around 45-60% after day1

maybe the lv12 pet is catching up to her :q

[dusk tundra]

i dont get why she is still a core team in ts, she sucks badly

[woeful plume]

Well you can't run x7 Ashem

[trail swift]

not with that attitude you can't

[inland kindle]

Find the right pet. Mine is lv.12 as well

[dusk tundra]

i mean rem is used in first two teams

[trail swift]

well a 40980 alyca probably helps too. what region

i'm gonna replace ezio with lavatune and see what happens 🤡

[dark kraken]

by 1 point

[wise harbor]

[dark kraken]

r44

so a sorta freegion

[inland kindle]

Not rly. Dea is most dmg hero most of the times. R37

[trail swift]

interesting

what pet 😮

you're hiding your pet on purpose aren't you

[inland kindle]

Yeah

For u to figure it out as I said before

[granite void]

From a purely TS perspective - should I use my TE on ALyca (0 copies already) or ASaf (3 copies) , or just save for next awakened

[dark kraken]

i use panda tbh

but idk how he func without 18

[trail swift]

probably badly

mine's 12. i only just now got around to wishlisting him :Q

[inland kindle]

Panda without lv.18 is shit

[umbral wasp]

Hi guys! Anyone already tried gavus and eugene combo in TS. How are they so far if anyone have tried them ?

[raven ginkgo]

no gavus 😦

[true magnet]

From what I have seen most people are not using them together so far

[polar dune]

it suck

[umbral wasp]

I havent seen any so I was wondering how they do. I guess I will give it more time and check again later

[umbral wasp]

Ouch so they dont work well in comp together ?

[polar dune]

yeah both aren't good together sadly

for this TS at least

[umbral wasp]

We shall give them more time lol

Ohhh and ty for the info. I might need to change my next awaken target

[inland kindle]

They don't have any synergy

Eugene works rly good in energy drain/reduction teams so with aShem/Lady Simone

While Gavus works as Enabler with aBel or other teams that need a bit to ramp up

[lime zinc]

Their kit synergy effects are far more minor, more like Geralt & Yen instead of Lib & Luci

[upper nexus]

Sibling bond > Bromance

[trail swift]

sibmance

[upper nexus]

I got another word for that

[tawdry hatch]

hot?

[upper nexus]

incest

[tawdry hatch]

same thing

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-misinformation-toji-no-miko-kaoru-mashiko-gif-24078541

[dusk tundra]

What is wrong with this game and why IT keeps giving me back to back games with these 2 dudes😭

[winged trail]

Who are the 4f worth 5 starring? Ivan Jerome Palmer naroko, anyone else?

[lime zinc]

Well A5 4Fs is just something you do naturally, would have to be pretty whale to actually bother HCPing stars

[winged trail]

What do you hcp?

[dusk tundra]

Nothing unless new/meta hero

[woeful plume]

The more you HCP the less you can gaze

[winged trail]

oh you just don't use your HCPs

[spark steeple]

Yea honestly I have not used mine much since I have been just using sg

[cinder cargo]

HCPs are much higher value than sgs cost:returns wise though

I would recommend depleting them every month

[spark steeple]

🫡 will do

[cinder cargo]

You get roughly 5x more heroes

Sure lavatune might be strong

But is he stronger than 5 built new meta 4fs?

Probably not

[winged trail]

There are like 5 meta 4fs total tho

Well I guess for ts only, for other modes there are a lot more

[cinder cargo]

Wait I disagree

Especially for new players

What are they gonna use

Awakened lucius and gavus and asaf and lavatune and malkerie and kalthin and maetria and Zolrath, all of which they don't have?

[dusk tundra]

i got almost all of those!

[cinder cargo]

You sir are a whale

[dusk tundra]

barely a dolphin

[cinder cargo]

Now you could make the argument that they could just jump to the whale meta a skip on building cheaper options

The problem is by the time they have the whale load out remotely built

Everything would have powercrept out of existence

[raven ginkgo]

swim swim swim

[cinder cargo]

[dusk tundra]

any of you whales know if kalthin/eugene +40 worth?

[cinder cargo]

🪞

.

[dusk tundra]

also any whales running malkrie with ashem?

[cinder cargo]

All the krakens are

[dusk tundra]

do you happen to have a ss for me?

[cinder cargo]

It's bronn Simona malkerie

[dusk tundra]

im really curious if i should 309e30/60 malkrie

[cinder cargo]

I forgot who else was Frontline

Atheus?

[dusk tundra]

i really wonder at what investments would that comp work cuz my bronn doesnt even have 3f

[cinder cargo]

I think 309e60

[dusk tundra]

oh so that comp wont work without bronn>?

[cinder cargo]

Well yes, but it's not as good

[dusk tundra]

oh boy i dont have furniture for bronn now..

[winged trail]

the combo is bronn e60 + malk e30

from what i saw

[cinder cargo]

No bronn is like Simona malk Trish/Robin

[dusk tundra]

trishea in ts? lol

mine is 30960 but never used her in ts

[winged trail]

bronn e60 boosts team PP on kills and malk e30 executes the shadows

[cinder cargo]

Hey I use her in ashem

[dusk tundra]

that malkrie e30 really looks juicy honestly

[cinder cargo]

It does?

[dusk tundra]

oh you right might work as fill in this debuff because of the factionless

[cinder cargo]

Faction bonus is whatever honestly

[dusk tundra]

I will run this 4t

[cinder cargo]

There's more to worry about

BTW you should save stuff

[dusk tundra]

might swap cruke with kalthin tho, i remember i did but w/e

[cinder cargo]

Like everything

[dusk tundra]

why?

[cinder cargo]

For next patch

[dusk tundra]

its like at the end of april

[cinder cargo]

We are getting 3rd major creep in April for some reason

Mainly save money

[dusk tundra]

so i need to save everything? lol

[cinder cargo]

Actually, yes

[dusk tundra]

do you got any insights or

[cinder cargo]

I have slightly more info

Not sure if I'm allowed to share

[dusk tundra]

i wont tell anybody

[cinder cargo]

But yeah a lot of whales are prepping for it

Mostly Mentally and monetarily lol

But

[dusk tundra]

i barely got myself t20 in ts bro i dont need another powercreep 😦

[cinder cargo]

Yeah I wouldn't go and build a bunch of expensive meh stuff right now

Who knows, maybe with creep you'll be top 10

[dusk tundra]

nah that would mean to outspend the top 10 whales in my region, but actually i got t9 last ts haha

[cinder cargo]

Depending oh how ridiculously expensive and/or overpowered the new thing is

[latent elbow]

ALucius is a meh stuff ?

[cinder cargo]

Imo yeah

[cinder cargo]

Nice

I forgot you were in the newest region

Lucky ducky

[dusk tundra]

Skill issue

[cinder cargo]

I wish I started earlier

Oh well

[latent elbow]

T10 without reso 18 is wild

[cinder cargo]

In r47 though?

When I think r47 I think of people running scarlet burst

[latent elbow]

T10 is kraken territory no matter the region

[cinder cargo]

True

Even test server top 10 is kraken lol

[dusk tundra]

Hey im working to it

[latent elbow]

If you can keep t10 or even t20 it will help snowball a lot

[dusk tundra]

i really started to focus baits only

[polar dune]

people run depend on whatever their max pet is @cinder cargo

like 15 diff possible variant bc its 3t

[dapper lance]

i dont gonna try to figure it out day 4

[dapper lance]

[polar dune]

ayo wtf

[true magnet]

any 'cramblers? Which team do you think palmer will benefit more

[dusk tundra]

i cant even use my palmer with alucius because alucius att is low af lmfao

[wise harbor]

Not top 10 anymore, I think even I'd struggle in R47 with how try hard it is

[umbral orbit]

What’s the wr on Abel with or without Palmer do u know?

[true magnet]

always uses Palmer so idk without but with its usually in the 70s by the end, often lower before like 5t

[umbral orbit]

For me i often move palmer to awthalia burst. I would say that palmer is better of abel, but its also harder to know cuz ur in a older region

[cinder cargo]

I think right

palmer is too slow for abel nuke

by the time he ults, the battle is basically over

if you don't have gavus, you should get him and then use him

if you don't have gavus, you should use like raine/ivan/haelus instead

also put either your abelinda or lava in the middle

I think the meta is lava middle, but honestly both have worked fine for me

what you don't want is palmer in the middle

[inland grove]

Why is palmer not good in the middle?

[cinder cargo]

he ults really slow

so does not boost the lava zone thing

[true magnet]

I tend to put Palmer middle because of his circle

I will try Haelus probably then

[wind mica]

isnt he jump to the middle when he active skill?

any other reason to put him in middle?

[dusk tundra]

Wtf is this

[inland grove]

Probably matchmaking

Probably u keep going against ashem teams

[cinder cargo]

He ults faster at the start

So his zone expands faster

[dusk tundra]

Started so bad went to t22 now im back to 8

[small tulip]

What would you change to make this better

[raven ginkgo]

was there supposed to be a pic attached to this?

[small tulip]

OMG

why wont they send

ahhh thast why

to many attachments

i need to try make some semi alright teams

[small tulip]

can you see em now

[raven ginkgo]

oh i can but i just copy peoples formation that are high ranked :/ have u tried that?

[small tulip]

Yes

[raven ginkgo]

youre v early game so i would strive to push campaign and tower heavy thats what i did

[small tulip]

hard to do none gb tower

[steel geyser]

Why emilia so weak this round? 😭

Ig not too bad

[tawdry hatch]

that is hardly any indication, especially in 3t

[wise whale]

whales

[dusk tundra]

Doing good

[inland kindle]

R47 is gifted

[dusk tundra]

Wdym?

[raven ginkgo]

Hmmm dropped 2 spots for now

[dusk tundra]

How is the 5th team?

[dusk tundra]

Juicy

[simple kernel]

forgot i built lucilla simona olgath and aath since last rotation so my bert dim comp is at 5% still in t100 tho somehow

[wise harbor]

Yeah I forgot to update 4 teams properly with Lucilla and stuff, also did Belinda team badly so it was 3% win rate

[trail swift]

🤡

[lime zinc]

Well your Dae doesn't have 9F

So you've got barely any dmg, esp when it's no AW

[wise harbor]

Are you losing to other people's Rem teams?

[raven ginkgo]

My T4 is 16% rn lol

[spark steeple]

no asaf or alyca probably?

[knotty verge]

hello, how does treasure scwamble work?

[true magnet]

might be easier to ask more specific questions

the broad answer is just that you fight enemies and gain points then based on your leaderboard rank you get rewards

[knotty verge]

oh twaesur swamble sounds really fun then

[true magnet]

its also got the best rewards in the game basically, of any competitive mode

[knotty verge]

@quartz salmon hi

[upper nexus]

uwu

[true magnet]

[dark kraken]

what the fuck??????????

[true magnet]

must have lost to a kraken

[lime zinc]

How many people are even higher than you in the bracket for a kraken like you to even get a -0

Oh ig it's just a narrow overall loss vs higher rank

[trail swift]

he musta went up against me 💪

[wise harbor]

Imagine being in same region as someone else you're familiar with on discord

[upper nexus]

Yea I get matched up with someone here

Every time it happens I'm like.. well, this is awkward

[wise whale]

whales

[inland grove]

If u are in the same region as me dont beat me

I forgive but I don't forget when i treasure scrambleeee

[lime zinc]

I know some people in my region but they're far from my own shitty rank

[rare grove]

Most people I know are on the same region as me

[polar dune]

Sorry my point now

[lime zinc]

Are you the r9 penguin too

[trail swift]

im bored

[upper nexus]

Let's steal a car

[brazen mirage]

Make sure it's a stray car or the owner ud be sad

[upper nexus]

If it meows it's over

[trail swift]

what if there's a baby inside

[trail swift]

cool hero

[polar dune]

I can't confirm or deny said statement

[upper nexus]

Guess we'll have to raise it together