#treasure-scramble
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Yeah my first calc last time was top 100
Sad that I missed top 100 2nd calc by 1 point
Best I can do right now probably, still missing rem 9f
I changed aathalia team pet to owl
Yeah going to swap that to rem team it worked better last debuff because dae gets her ult off
Jérôme have solid f9 you should go for him
Yeah he is on my wishlist
That comps I used to play 4 month ago
U can maybe try theme
Wathalia was very very solid
going to try. Thanks
Nah not yet
Ok
On what celhypo are u investing rn ?
Alna
Yeah started it
Alrighty though I got to go to sleep now. Was nice talking to you, glad to meet you 
Sleep now ? 
It's 3 AM for me 
why is my abel comp getting shat on this time around?
Different buff

Any recomendation, rem comp without alna?
😸
Does the route I pick matter
no
i think you have vanguard instead of scramble unlocked iirc
That's just team 1, it's not multiple teams
Treasure Hunt Camp is baby mode so it doesn't gain extra teams per division
It ramps to 3 or 4 teams by the final division though
Normal Scramble is 7 teams at last division
Fair I just got to chap 12
Is this good for other modes or just volcano
volcano. The debuff changes making certain units less viable
scramblers ?
Look at the guides for all the debuffs and you'll notice that a lot of the comps are the same basic idea in each debuff
I'm about to swap my 209 Grez for Edwin
Ded
Oh nononono
This mf Grez collecting dust in my back pocket
And I don't have the heroes to make him work well. No built Gorvo, no 9f Mishka, no Alna
Only thing I can think of rn is pairing him with the twins to link the boss stat steal to a carry
gorvo?????????????????
also grez isnt high prio anymore tbf
Ya or anything to help him survive. I don't have the heroes to make him work.
what does grez do now
apart from that one CR round
do people still use him in TR?
depending on floor yeah
By floor you mean?
TR floor, your RC level and who you compete against
Tower 
ASaf is done, 430 TE and 55 SG
Gotcha. I've never used him tho. Dunno if I should start doing so. I usually just do merc + other buffers.
you should check the leaderboard
Is Grez, Twins, merc carry a better idea?
I do. Rn it's WAthalia, Liberta,+buffers for my TR floor.
every boss has several meta teams depending on your RC
there is no way

we need to implement a new rule that strips role colors for 2 weeks for people who steal luck from other people 

Top 5 out 10. The only team to use Grez, the rest uses WAthalia
Terrible, merlin need f9 at least
chipi chipi chapa chapa
lubi lubi laba laba
Question I keep getting top 22% and I don't think that my heroes are that bad. Yes I had made some bad investments early on but that is nothing a few hero swap events can't fix. What do you guys thinks?
I am a little bit behind on some 4f heros because I pushed hard to get Liberta 😅
I am f2p
Hero swap events are extremely rare 
I know that is just the denial talking I really don't want my mistakes to be permanent 😦
Kinda all mistakes are permanent, but you can still optimise your acc after the fact
Yeah I know I am hoping to get my f4 heros up to date and hopefully get awakened shemira and athalia by the end of the year.
Mabye also latatune and lucillia if I am really lucky with my pulls. But I know that there will most likely be 4 new heros that change the game that need to be stargazed by the end of this year as well .
at this point you can choose you either restart (I don't recommend for an account as old as yours), retire from RGMs, or just hoard a lot and camp out the current meta
note you might have to camp for like 1-2 years 
trying to play catchup with the meta right now is not a good idea
you'd just be investing into heroes that will reach the end of their lifespan anyways, whilst not even getting the benefits of good rewards along the way
so you'd just be stuck playing catchup forever
I didn't think of doing that it's a shame with an acount as old as mine I hoped that I would be a bit more up to date than where I am now. Good call out though I will start to save all of my resources and focus in on campaign mode, I would rather wait two years then abandon my four year old account. Thanks 🙂
They should totally do a full hero swap for VIP11 and above, and a 4F hero swap at the same time for VIP10 and below
Let me roast your roster a bit
- Lack of furniture on Lyca
- Lack of furniture on Belinda
- To lesser extent not 9F Emilia
- Not +30 Mulan when you already E60'd
- Not +30 Thoran so all your investments are meaningless for him since you can't cheese
- No built Lucilla
- No built Shemira
- No built Athalia
Yeah... You're in for a long ride when it comes to TS
Look at this shit bro
Look at Team 1 performance
well having that pet makes sense for that winrate
I'm this 🤏close to swapping him lol
No no
Don't get distracted by the pet
The pet is just a placeholder. I wanted to test 209 Grez vs an E+ Edwin
There's no way that Edwin is the reason for the wr difference anyway
Edwin isn't doing anything there at E
gotta take into account 21 matches vs 50 matches
I did. Didn't post it since it's from 3 teams but it was 68%. Still much lower than 82%.
That's just wr fluctuation from rank rollercoaster, it's not from the hero being changed
Could say the same thing about Grez, no? In fact, it's a worse conclusion. Grez did worse on average than an E Edwin that wasn't doing anything.
Point is that both were doing nothing so the WR diff is unrelated to them
Well, yeah... But I am comparing the two so they're the ones I'm gonna be looking at
Thoughts on new GB?
gravebronn
Explain this how am I only top 100 percent it’s a new server no way everyone went the most optional route
What is that rank
Ive never seen it
Just oof

It’s a new account might be a beginner thing
def has to be never seen top 100% 😂 just sounds like a thanks for participating trophy
4% is decent. R47?
R45
Even better than
On my test server acc, I was top 20 in hunt camp then got 80% when I moved to scramble 

haha damn
Kinda in the state of did i misss the first run of treasure or is everyone forced to do this beginner thing
did you set your teams the first day?
Soon as I was able to I had to beat stage 11 20 first
And it took like 40 hours to get rem
I hate how aluc needs si40+ and bis coll and shit to work, and everyone's like meh, skip, he's just "okay".
...and yet he's everywhere in TS and CR lol.
Well yeah he's still better than not having built
So nonhavers can just you know, find ways around it
Because he's not that good 
Yeah what he said, surely you can spare some change by now for that 
i mean relative to the amount of investment needed to function, he’s “meh”
feels like f2p or light spenders have better stuff to work on most of the time
Tbh si30 works 
yo dog i dont think this shit is any good
Jesus
ur right maybe e80 jerome will fix it
Si40 too
so true king
not even 36 ice crown honestly can kids these days even 
whens reso 36 Lilith
Still a little confused with TS. It will finish calculating in 6 days? Then we get rewards for the following week?
Ahhh good deal thanks
Everyone knows you need si 60
Where's squidy
A kraken is just a grown up squid. Check dms
how threatening
A kraken is a squid with more and bigger tentacles
yes tentacles
it seem i forgot my collection
You were pushing mauler tower or something and just moved them...?
was doing CR
@copper yacht could u do me a favor and ss when ur cn server acc has guild store refresh? just to double check something. thx!
Look at background
It's from mail
Not necessarily stones
Claiming the Eug while your roster is full then claiming it again from mail 
o
Aside from ashem / lava (not built yet) anyone here NEED e60 for pvp or are they all just nice to haves now
walker
Adjusting teams in TS is so laggy 
My team 5 is so sus 
Are you whel? Does it even have a use for whels?
I find it funny how whels are gonna be the ones who gets 1st place for the most part, yet they benefit the least from the rewards (it's too little)
no but one copy doesn’t make a first wave awk worth building. the rarity is completely nonsensical
Agreed. You're basically just gonna "build" the 1st gen awk from those chests since it's not worth building via TEs like you said. And that's gonna take a long ass time 
That's with every mode 
pain
Should i garison ezio?

His energy gen is really awful, which is why his 9f, AwSaf & AwLyca help him a lot
Does he like ERR on his collection then?
this ts's pretty brutal
@quartz canopy they’re putting us against each other now smh
I won’t the previous one too lol
But they keep putting us up against each other… is the scrambling based off of how many points you have?
Emilia 9f not at all a priority?
Does athalia need 9f? Looking to put her in her own team, was wondering what hero’s work well with her and what don’t do as much
Probably, he's basically a support so he just wants defences, ERR & f.atk
are u talking about normal or awakened athalia
sorry i mean for awakened athalia didnt realize i didnt type it correctly
then yes all the meta awakeneds should have 309E60
Where is the real bok
I locked him in the basement

lol that 4th team does not do you justice huh
Will the real bok please stand up
Any advice what to do againt this set up? Is there a way to beat Si40s?
yea SI50s
My 4th team has 0% win rate lol
my rem and abel have low win rates
The bigger issue is the RC diff
I can easily beat a guy 20 RC lower than me that has 3 SI40s with my 0 SI40s
yeah that's fair
Use this formation maybe

U can try use dae
honestly you probably can't

+40s do make up a lot of RC levels
actually nvm you're probably right 
This isn't a theoretical, it's from my actual arena 
Rank 80 

muh be nicee
Still not having Athalia is finally having a toll on alt no 100 this round 
This debuff is killing me because severe lack of carry roster

I got 91 atm. Been doing test teams on t4 and t5 lol
is making a change that takes one team up 10% WR and another down 5% WR the same as taking a team up 5? Like is there any math weirdness or is just total WR all that matters?
idk how to word that question
There is some weirdness because it'd affect your point gain fluctuations
But I think the benefit should average out to be the same or better as your net gain in total WR
E.g. at 6t, 3 teams of 75% and 3 at 25% would have more rng than 6 at 50%
V nice
I'd assume so but it's hard to gague just based of winrate because winrate can change drastically based on which number of teams you are currently battling on and also what rating you are currently batteling on and also the debuff modifier.
Yeah a net 5% would be too small to notice because it'd be smaller than rng variance itself
Yeah the numbers were just kinda made up
Theoretically if you could know that, it should be a minor benefit
I was just wondering about general strategy for spreading my heroes
Happy that I built Olgath cause I think he's badass looking
Olgath is very useful for TS
Should I e60 or nah? He's e44 atm, Im not pressed for cores atm but I don't have enough for e60 either, also Simona and atreus are on the backburner so not sure if I need to save for them or just keep both at e30.
Not to mention is e60 on Olgath even worth it for just 1 comp in TS? LOL
Should I use 303e0 Simona that I just finished over 203e30 RH in AShem? Or over my extremely swole Oden
r36
RH?
Robin Hood
alright Ill drop Robin
My Oden is higher cmbr than my AShem without collections on them 
My Robin is 209e44 and he's alright, but I feel like he doesn't do enough
Maybe they will release several bad celepogeans in a row and it will be Olgath's time to shine soon
God I hope
I hope the next awakened is a flop too
I still feel like a awakened dimensional will happen eventually
I just wonder how an awakened dim would work, they gotta monetize those wokes
Eugene kinda opened the door there for f2ps to get easy access awakened. It makes sense.
The drawback is that an awakened dim is likely gonna be either a tank/buffer/support role or a jack of all trades master of none role. So it'll be strong but it'll only be in like top 10 awakened, definitely not top 6.
Well my theory is you need to link it to another awakened
The role is irrelevant, all that matters is the cumulative benefit
Be cool of the character changes it's faction based on the hero it's linked too
You heard it here first, quote me when it happens
well if they do it that way i know where my dim key is moving
What totem i should use for mage?
Dark rage
Is there a specific reason this team is so bad until like 6 and 7t then is like 80+%?
Liberta teams aren't good in this debuff, it favours burst teams and heroes like Athalia especially love it
It happened last time too, I guess fire is similar
What was fire again? I only remember things by actual effects 
its the other burst one
earlier on you just fight lots of stacked ashem and rem comps
so wnirate tanks
around 6t and 7t most of the ppl have spread their roster thin so this comp starts excelling pretty hard
Fire is multi hit
Red - Fire/Volcano - Multihit
Green - Forest - Burst
Blue - Ice - Health-loss/Energy drain/Ramp
Teal (lol) - Smog/Fog - Fac bonus disabled
Wrong
Bok - Wrong - ascii monkey
i suck on this ts
haven't fallen into 1% this many times for months
maybe cause i'm hording epic chests 🤔
Current 5 team setup for TS, and full box, still have 3 sig swaps available from event, Nara is at 25 si, wondering if I can scrape together a team 6 with left overs or improve the other 5
Got top 12% this time around with a 20% WR on last day because I forgot to update teams
Could prob split AwSol to some kinda Overheal
Throw Trish into team 1 instead of her then?
Then have asolise / nevanthi overheal as team 6?
Isn't nevanthi better for the overheal because of her si 30?
Yeah
Oh so then nevanthi asolise and Trish in t6?
Smth like Mish/Naro + those
That leaves a slot in t5 stall if I'm moving Joan to t1
Then Ana for AwBrutus, not sure what fills for Scar
Just throw in Tal or Flora into Stall
Cool lemme mess around and come back in a min
🤔
Threw isa into t4 instead of nevanthi for the energy redu, not sure how well it syns with odens
Just hit res 12, what pets are prio to 15? or do i start taking pets to 18. My seal is 18 btw
After res 12 go for lv.18 pets
Anasta would still be better
Other than Owl 15 for CR & Spooder 15 for TS, you mostly care about the 18 skills
Cool fixed it up, additionally any suggestions for a sig swap? (If there's even anything remotely worth swapping)
Ashem has 30 alrdy
Best thing I can think of, is swapping someone to lavatune if I manage to get him to myth before the event ends
Can't see any other needed si30s unless I missed someone
Lava's def a good SI30 but you don't have many SI30s in general so there's not much to even swap from
Rem to Emi or Albedo works ig
hello
there he issssssss
I'm I've been stuck around 2% in R46 for a while now. Any tips to improve my teams?
Not in any meta teams but can be used for budget stuff
Soo.. not worth building then?
For newer players definitely not
Ascend your luci 🙂
And Daem
Well meta teams are mostly AWs and celepos, obvs you won't be able to copy them
First time 26th percent is that good or like bad bad
depends on box
who should i go for first?
@wicked oyster seal should be ur 1st lvl 18
did that on res9 xd
keep building him and you'll see him becoming a monster
nooo like i have him 18 thats why idk what to do next with the new pets and stuff
@wicked oyster build owl or talis to lvl 18
New ice pet pretty bonkers too
Is it finally a good time to si40 a hero? I'm thinking Liberta as my first si40.
If anything it is likely the worst time since the release of si 40. An awakened/hypo is going to release soon and it is probably going to be the best indication whether future heroes will have op si 40
Makes sense
Another question
What are some decent 4f pvp heroes?
I'm very far away from pulling for Dae or WAthalia.
But I have fodder I can use to ascend some 4f.
I'm lf heroes who can pass for team 6/7. Who don't need a lot of investment, 203 max.
Simona pretty nice
True. I alr have her at 203 atm.
Also the usual Jerome naroko Ivan palmer tamrus
I'm good on everyone except Tam, I think he's at 5f rn
Will si30 him once he gets his 9f
New regions there are quite a few people running Scarlet in later teams as well
But not too sure how well that works
I can tell you since I run Scarlet as team 3 
She's okay. Over 50% but needs a lot of support
Think Ivan Jerome.
Scarlet is poor man's ABelinda for new accounts lol
Right now I'm thinking of ascending Sonja and making her 203
all of them contain awakens
welcome to late stage afk arena
:')
Join me, and together we shall scrape the bottom of the barrel to find the "best" bad heroes to sub those CHADs with

I’ll join ya :’)

just ate a banana
Just swallowed a banana
Just swallowed
Now I regret pulling Olgath
Have you built him to usable level?
Framton also have fellow tribesman just like Talene 
Olgath is for krakens anyway 
Lets gooo it's not an awakened
i am lilith i will now release 3 awakeneds at once back to back
He will soon be Mythic now at L plus
SI swap and free eplus tempted me to go for him
Hi lilith im dad
This new hypo gives off meta DPS vibes
watch it be useless
minimum 5036e100 to do anything
out of meta after 2 weeks
i am lilith i dictate it to be yes
Sick hero cant be bad 🙂
can*
Nah
nah
All the hero meta are sick
wrong
Look Ashem how sick she are
Well there's your mistake right there when it's recommended to only make decision once you have 500+ pulls
ashem looks garbage
Last good looking hero was probably
Lilith's been cooking with hero designs lately. Not including Lobin
is*
Athaeus is sick bro
He look so nice
Adrian and elyse is sick
And he very strong
They danced
wrong
Nah they s**k
No they don't s**k
I like Bronn's design too
who is bronn
Baddest hero of all time behind malkyrie
Must build
New gb
who is new gb
The basket player
Lebronn
james
I personally think curr is better than bronn
wrong
Bronn not meta anymore outdated
Casket player

wrong
Ur just always so optimistic
wrong
Guy abive me oppotismistic
'New hypo will make Bronn meta' Copium
wrong
wrong
What’s a good breakpoint for rh?
0
i'm doing 309e36
or might just leave him at e30 as he is now, but haste/is nodes are nice for him
gotta get
Aathalia or Asafiya?
Athalia first

wait it includes awakeneds? no way
noooooooo fuckin way they're so nice to do that
and they added gamemode collection saving too
theyve niced us this event
prepare for triple dim releases now
i refuse to believe it, they're gonna sike us on that day
if it does include awakeneds im throwing AThane away
throw him in the bin
whats this mean?
woke for woke just cant do alucius or eugene
you can save formations with certain collections now
oh thats so nice
There’s a hero swap coming ? I guess I’ll say good bye to my 5f mishka
The collection save is huge. Now I don't have to equip every hero's collection after pushing towers
hello
prio si40 is scar
it does
how do you know
twitter, apparently his si40 additions are crazy
no proper testing yet descriptions alone
well... that sounds fun, im only at about 700 emblems
yup gonna be rough keeping these si40 req heros coming
its rough even for spenders
smol spenders yes, big spenders nah theyll build the resources from winnings quick enough
i've spent more than 100$ on isles event alone
isles event waste of cash
why? got more than 600 red chests out of it, the best value so far since the vip packs wich gave 300 for 60$
- other things, forgot i bought the 15$ pass also
goodluck! how are you ranking up so far?
do you have lucilla?
I’m at 2% rn
Nope
damn! and v nice! alot of ppl have thinner teams once its gets to this t6 & t7 lol
Yea I try my best to spread them out lol hopefully I can hold up this round 
Smh
team 1 putting in work!
team 2 getting trashed
It happens
why does team 1 and team 2 go against a rem i dont get it surely my team 1 goes against someone elses team 1 and my team 2 against someone elses team 2
im not necesarrily sure tbh. This is just my 2nd TS haha
The ordering is irrelevant, it's just random matching
The only thing team 2 can't fight is the exact same team that team 1 fought (as in same exact person)
yea change the stitching app
my score goes up but my percentage goes down
Wr is meant to go down as you get higher rank, or at least stabilise if you're top bracket
*learning *
In team scramble when you adjust formation how long before it takes place is it instant?
it should tell u in the screen "Begin Scrambling in" the duration following that statement is how long u have before what you have set is used in the TS
2 hours after reset, and 14 hours after reset
your've'st'mve welcome
bok has ur back cause i sure as heck didnt know that XD
Thank you!
maybe i should swap my 7 athane copies to alyca 🤔
but then no easy 30960t4 swap if i did abrutus or asolise. ahhh
It'd be pretty meme if it didn't swap gear and you were left with wrong hero T4s
yeh
i'm totally stumped on what to swap for alyca.. sigh
guess i have a few days to ponder it
i think he means you need to work on your sewing
looks pretty standard for ghetto-meta. jerome is stealing rowan's blue pot probably
nothing 
you'd have to remove palmer from slot 4 or frontline abel, both bad options rly
as is backlining jerome
cause ivan will steal it too
i use ezizh there instead of rowan but abel kinda sucks without gavus so it doesn't matter a whole lot either way. rowan's still a good frontliner cause of his kit
Top 100?
Your entire team fell apart before seal could hit enough times
But still it's only 9 battles, worry more when you are getting into 40 without single win, you're probably just facing comps that are too strong
Also Thoran seal team tend to have low win rate unless you built them hard
might do more for you to put seal on AShem for example
lucilla does much of her job without investment i think
i wouldn't take rank-up win rates too seriously either, they're usually bad as fuck
You can't really "aim for win rate" though, if you lack roster either you risk lower win rate across the board, or you stick with your better teams and then do whatever with leftover teams, and pray hard
This debuff is not good for low roster because it favours burst so much
So expect your E/E+ to wipe very fast and you just lose
It means this is the worst TS for Seal Stall
Worse, it means if your hero is not ascended and even engraved, you lose way more, because less stats mean they die faster
And the gist of this debuff is, whoever makes the first kill will most likely win because of massive snowball
Seal team is doable, but if you want win rate you'd probably use it on heroes that actually can last, like Shemira team
There's no issue with using Thoran seal... If you actually have them ascended, trying to use E+ heroes in this burst debuff is practically surrender in most cases
It's like... If you use ascended heroes they might not die that fast, but using E+ they might get one shotted and then your seal can't even start hitting
Top 100?
If only your seal was 18, last team would probably have 30+% win rate
Yes, soon I will have it, he is lvl 11 now and I have 8 spice
I will get lvl 15 soon that should be a good improvement already
You need... Something like 27 spice to get to 18
24 from lvl 12 to 18
But I have him on wl I think I should get him 18 in 2-3 months
With a bit of luck involved
You're catching up 
Hopefully I'll be able to get 60 more spices or so
I'll probably end up 1% for this debuff, just don't have enough carries on team and I can't get Athalia any time soon
Yes im gonna spike hard in the next couple of months. First lvl 18 pets, 2 more fully built wokes and some bew celehypos and 4fs
@tawdry hatch how are both your accounts ranking rn?
Lyca I got back then because her pretty portrait but she's practically my most reliable carry right now
But alas, you need more carries for this round
Lacking Olgath Athalia and all that hurts a lot, and forces you to improvise
So much that I'm unironically considering building Isabella whenever I have spare resources just to meme TS
Just because 'meta' doesn't use her, doesn't mean she can't be used somewhere with good effect
Isabella good
If you are full on TS 'enthusiast' or at least want to just do decent, you'll want Lyca Safiya and Athalia, all of them
209e30
I can't even spare resource for her that's the problem, no room for furniture wishlist, and no gear
Somehow its one of my best performing team lol.
It's mainly because Shemira
Sec I'll pull my Shemira team because I had to improvise not having Isabella built
I still gotta get ashem from e60 to e66
@minor prawn
Nothing
and 2%
Top 50 I kneel
Damn your main doing well 
aaaaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssdddddd
im not being invited to the Top 3 party 

I feel like I shouldn't swap Solise because eventually I'd have to rebuild her for CR and AE anyway, but if I drop say Lucretia for Cruke, I could have another reliable tank to boost win rate a bit, and then depending on next hypogean I may build Lucilla, and with enough TG get Athalia as well
Might have to copium with 1% for a while
what are your WR without cruke?
Shown above, but it's at least a hero I can use, Swapping for Lucilla means I just wasted 4 furniture pulls 
If I swap with Cruke though it's perfect because it's just one E with no equip, and certainly no investment including furniture, clean swap
Also I still need to SG the Lucilla copy if I wanted to
that is probs the cleanest of swaps, bu then the woke swap value is so good
If somehow I had Ezizh ascended I'd swap without a thought, but Solise though, urgh
Might have to rethink if I should just sacrifice her for TS ranks
dddddddddddd
this ssap is actually a tought one lmao
Ya unlike main, that one is locked in place
my decision is whether big dae is better then big alyca
I even purposely progressed to that point because I thought they'd return the hero swap
big brain stuff honestly
5* 3036e80 Athalia ---> 3* 4036e62 Lib / 2* 3011e68 Dae / 2* 309e61 Vei / 1* 309e62 Luci / 2* 3010e66 Lava
5* 3036e63 Asol ---> 1* 3015e60 Alyca
theyre my options for swaps atm
Still using E4X Daemia and been solid
Ah yes that especially, I don't want to end up having to merc Solise from main just to get through that round
Will see, if I can get 500+ TGs before the swap is over then I'll stick with the Cruke plan
Scrambleeee
Hi sorry for the ping but quick question, how’s 203e4x Trish been doing TS? Do you think it’s a better sub then 309e4x oden or 309 Silas
@umbral orbit I wouldn't know, no chance to try Oden there because I don't have Ezio to use on Rem team
That's where Oden is right now
makes sense, ill do a bit of test then

don't use atheus in burst comp
or naroko
use owl for burst comp
use edwin instead of grez in ashem comp
use numisu and taine in scarlet comp. Do not try to LDV or stall out that comp, you will fail
just speed ult as many times as you can
if it doesn't work, tough
you were probably gonna get rekt anyways
The pet level is severely lacking
Numisu decent?
Hmm.. will 203 be a good enough investment?
oh no no hes functinos at 200
Mythic si20?
hes used to make a very cheapt scarlet hburst
No reason to but M+ to A is the most expensive upgrade for non wokes
So it might get stalled there for a while
M to M+ isn't a lot of stats, right?
I'm using like 3 or 4 heroes just for their si so I ascended them to Mythic and stopped there.
Should I be stopping at M+ instead?
No I'm saying there's no reason to stop there but some people are stopped there for a while just because luck
I understood that. I'm just wondering whether it's worth to ascend to M+ instead of stopping at M
For example, I'm using m20 Ferael.. would it be worth it to get him to M+ (no plans to get him furn)
No save the fodder for the same reason you don't make L+ heroes early
Or would that be a waste of fodder...
That makes sense
Afkit says 153f for Numisu lol
Thoughts on stuff to move around? Keeps me at 1-2% but was hoping to try t100 eventually
You make M+ when you have a lot of fodders that you know the M+ won't hinder another hero that will get 8 copies, so you can just relax and wait for the M+to get enough copies
Make adjustments based on your win rates
In my case, I already have enough copies to go to Ascended. I just stopped at Mythic because I don't plan on getting furniture for these si20 heroes..
By the way, is there an updated tree guide for TS/PVP?
TL;DR leave most of your eggs for classes you have most heroes in, which should be sust sorc and might
Or something like that
Don't forget useful tree breakpoints
Any help optimizing 6 teams? I'm 20 pts away from t100
Useful tree breakpoints?
Maybe I need to reset Celerity...
That should be t100 no problem next cycle I'd think
how we screemblin screemblers
Here's hoping!
Have to say though, I'm not a fan of using low ascended here because it can mean they die easier, and this debuff is where you don't want any of your hero to die first
Would you sub nevanthi, mishka, or numisu in here somewhere? All at 20000
I still use Mishka somewhere because I don't have better and E60 is still E60
T91
i used my mishika with swap scroll to atheus

my abel is back baby 58% almost doing as good as ashem and awthalia
i believe in u
all you need to do is make all your wr 69% too
and u will be akin to a god
For the upcoming swap event should I swap Asol to Alyca?
ASaf has been a huge boon. Not because she made AlnaRem better but because she freed ALyca to wreck shit elsewhere
hi choerry
i am doing good in ts now, it onlly took me a year after u helped me make teams
also side note i think AK quit hes been offline for 7 days
Wooo wyca counters alot of comps from what i been seeing. she obliterates squishies
celebration 
Should i swap asol to alyca
Was insane in ABel but moved her to burst. WR isn't amazing but a huge increase from my usual budget burst
finally
Yes they should totally re merge R47 back into R46 because it's end of honeymoon 
god that would be funny people would lose it
I know right? Sowing Discord is fun 
How does pet reso trick even work? Do I reso 12 first or put this guy on reso first to get the spices?
The game just broke during this match 
I have no idea if it counted as a win or a loss for them
crazy, time stop fr fr
I currently run Aathalia Burst and Alna/Rem/Asaf.
Where should i be utilising Alyca?
Replacing Asaf and creating an Asaf dims team?
Adding alyca into abel?
Adding alyca into aathalia burst?
- R40
I might utilise her in Abel during early stages yeah. My Abel WR always tanks until about 5-7 teams
Yeah id defs use asaf during ice debuff
What is the Asaf dims comp usually
That one that countered alyca for awhile? Does it still work
mostly see her on burst if not in AlnaRem
Asaf in burst? Oo okay never realised
Ill have a look
I dont have her yet anyways, just planning to swap my maetria into alyca n wanted to have some teams in mind ready for her
yo WHALES what should i buy from chal store if i already have a0 alna, a0 ezizh (not really interested in engraving him atm), a1 zolrath already? build orthos, buy flora copies, or buy reds?
could just finish getting ezizh's star too i guess..for e30 someday
Can i put Asafiya instead of palmer in here
Im no
but I vote Mortas A1. unless you want to swap flora or something
You could but you're probably better off using AwSaf sonewhere else
I know but i don't know where, the rem team im using lyca...shemira team i don't need her and palmer is needed for Belinda and didn't build zolrath for this team is there any suggestions
:(
You can use AwLyca on that team and put AwSaf on Rem
AwSaf does work there and works for not, but you'll probably put her on Rem when you split to further teams anyway
I see
Thoughts?
If you have 5 beasts at level 9 all of your beasts will get the same level
You just resonate the panda now and he will get 9 levels as simple as that
flora more for seal comp but also future swaps. i barely ever use mortas anymore tbh, he’s m20 atm
I have 6 lvl 12 beasts but haven't activated lvl 12 reso
I want to get lvl 12 panda plus these spices
Haven't lvled up the last lvl 12 beast
Then level it up and you are fine
Then I resonance the panda afterwards to get 9 spices?
Do it now it doesn't change anything
2nd best lvl 18 pet after Seal?
Is owl better than Talis or Ice crown 18 for TS?
I don't know about the ice crown but the 18 owl is needed for the increasing and decreasing 40 haste
I see it huge
Owl is also more widely used, at low twisted floors having an 18 one probably means you rank 1 several bosses
Then you go for talis
Honestly talismane seems to be used less nowadays
Don't worry it's fine
I know it's still wide usage for other modes and it's going to be one of your 18s for reso but still
But the worst part is you need alot of the baits and the rates dont work at all
Well then you can probably expect ranking up in the final moments
The pet levels do matter
Who knows, maybe the pet boost will jump you into 1% or even better
I thought you said pet resonate 
probably yes honestly
grez is just a sucky hero now
he was never a tank, more like build up dps with alna
if you try to force him into cruke spot, he's gonna fail spectacularly
he's gonna fail, and it's gonna be a sight to behold
Wtf is wrong with my TS it is at 3 battles now 
No division changes and stuff? Check if it's just you from fellow r47 peeps
Nah mine is the only one scuffed. I can check other regions and theirs are slow too so it's just mine
no point carding bert 9f if u don't have lucilia ready.
I mean I would if u are at 8
unless you are also close to other crucial furns
^
I was on bert 3f for at least 3-4 months because I wasn't building Lucilla and I was getting shafted on RNG
If I get any of my units to accented my win rate will sky rocket cause my rem will then be accended
Mate ur in treasure hunt
That not just the beginner version of scramble
Thats beginner
Wow you're in baby TS and still lose this hard

It’s cause I’m not doing what most are and getting mythic plus units I’m waiting like the beginner guide said for 8 copy’s for accended
What sort of reward do you get in junior mode anyway?
Some epic soul frags that’s about it
Is that amount given based on your rank?
Oh so just reach point threshold, what about ranking at end of each calculation?
There’s no button to see end rewards
It’s annoying cause of the fact both my teams have to go against rems and my 2nd team can’t beat a rem
But I’m 77th in arena tho
It's the same display as reg TS, it's just small change rewards each day
It's free stuff anyway, because you'd be below the unlock reqs of TS regardless
They should add a menu to show total reqards gained like Isle of Gold 
holding on to sub4%
Hopefully I'm back to <3% after swap 
Nice, sub 2% next ts then
now comes the hard part, im not at 7 teams yet
youve got this, what region?
R40
yeah thats the plan

you got ashem
everyone except those two
TS wise aathalia will probably be your better option out there 
oh yeah, then probably gonna jump a lot in rankings
you got all the other 'important ones' right ?
yeah adding 2 to the list will help a lot, tbh you have the more important stuff (aLyca would be great too but let's not be too greedy here
)
she should be enxt unless next woke is turbo good
Considering you're R40, having all that will probably make you T2/1% fairly easily if you have the other stuff built, can't speak about T100 as I'm not sure how bad R40 is
Yeah, wait for it, previous wokes were pretty skippable and we're having lots of stuff given recently, so I'd save in case they make a new turbo broken woke
whats T2 idk
T2% my bad
going for T100 lol ppl who are less built than me are at 70s
Oh yeah then T100 here we go, as long as you have some 4fs/celepogs built you're good 
There is some interesting stuff here 
But should be doable to reach 1% / T100 if people have equivalent box

oh and i have two hero choice chests with flora in them. And we gonna get a new one in the upcoming events. That means I can swap the 3 floras into any celepog?
I assume so yeah if you’re speaking about that thing
yeye
Then you should be able to swap the 3 extras for any Celepog of your choice 
Anything i should try swapping around?
Your pets
maybe even pull a reso 9 so you don't have to use silly blue pets
You do better than me in TS 
That new lb works for u at 203 like that for u Mr Squid?
Anel isn't even buffing AwLyca at just SI20 
203e30 barely, just not investing until new hypo
Really curious about Kalthin, starting with 500 energy means he ults super fast
S3 prob builds giga energy
Got some teams that are struggling rn, top team only has 22%
Seal team mainly doing bad because low seal level, unsure of how to improve teams 1/2
Up to date box above
Still have 2 sig swaps if that helps in any way, Nara is 25 however so I'm not planing on swapping her
which ones are worth swapping? Im close to reso 6, just wanted to get seal 12 first. need one more copy of owl
Scramble chat dead
Cause we cooked
scramble ded long live the 'cramble
Yay i get to keep t20
Are you sure? There's one more cycle after this one
I mean If i keep 60% wr im sure im t20
These two are doing me dirty but hopefully when i finish alucius , asaf and the new hypo i could get a decent 6th team

My best wr ever
It's so over
HOLDING ON
@minor prawn Top 100 yet 🦥
4-6%
We’re cooked
:despair:
Over it is
only top 20 🤏
@rough hare it might happen again 
Yes i cant be using non glowing ranked plate
Huh?
I said what i said, aint pretend like you didnt hear me
Is that supposed to bother me im t20 in a region with 20 servers and thousands of players?
t20 kinda small tho
Yea it is you're right

Lool
how close to t100 are you
Im rank 94
5 more fights
tru not even bronze
Yep true
One more fight at 67... This should hold yes?
@dapper lance i know your in your break rn, but i hit t100 finally
it only took so long. ty again for the help on teams
I took a really unexpected dive into 1% and have been working my way back up but I am so worried to check now
the fights just ended for 42
its probably close to ending or close, what region are you?
36
ill take a peak

I hereby promote you to vinythepee, from #2 to #1 
Lets gooooooo top 100
lOl
ty ty what a good day today is
congrats!!!
Okay cool, slipped a bit first cycle, ended with 62
ay 62 is really good
gratz
Considering I don't have Athalia... I'm barely holding on, lost so bad first round because I did team wrong and dropped to 2% at one point 
Thanks
seal 15 was hugeee
jacko what is your ign
jacko
he's a chonker
chonker for my tiny stall team 

And last round got only +1 points
i dont think i see it
u probs were like 2 or 3 points off
i got +12 in the last round damn
6 points off. thats a pissoff I have no idea why I took that dive right near the end
The RNG matchup can be very unforgiving

Region which one?
Ah nevermind found
@radiant grotto Wow rank 3 I kneel
@true magnet Yeah sometimes it just happens your teams are all matched against their best teams or teams that win over yours 
Just behind @inland grove Made it to t100 with 7-0 in game 50.
Last minute epic come back, I kneel
Whoever was holding on must feel like turd right now..
Yeah who'd expect someone to +15 last round 
Super clutch, was out for previous 20 fights lmaoo
Now we can have our cool looking rank plate to flex on people 😎
Cant wait to flex on the whales in my server 
Oh yeah mini spender
You?
f2p
This team way underperformed this round
Amazing
Oof that's a feelsbad
I assume unlucky matchmaking?
Or no lucilla?
Its not the best buff for this kind of team but yeah it must be some amount of bad luck because that is a chunky team
You get ranking plate even as top 10% though 
Yeah true, dw we got ice next debuff 💀
big it doesnt sparkle whats the point
Dude I had talismane and it was 30%
Doesn't shine and it has stinky % sign
damn dims not treating you good this entire TS.
I had talis on AShem
I think 46% is about right for that team in Green 
- hydra/tr are usually 1/2, so I'll take it, great comeback since the fuckup on last round

tr unstoppable, congratz!
Region 3 is so unfun 
You aren't far off rank 2 as well. Next time rank 2 
Beat the hydra 
Im goin on a warpath next round I stg
Swap regions with me then 
You'd rather face Cero's alter ego?
well Im #1 in Arena rn at least 
R3 is def easier than R9 at least
And I thought I live on the edge all the time trying to compete with krakens
6th 
get on my level come on now
Even alt is arena #1 because people just don't care about that extra 50 diamond each season
sorry I'm a noob 
me and one guy actually do care lol, we trade it back and forth a lot
I can get 4th or 5th in arena but I'm more than 200 rc below 3rd 
I think I made him start whaling more lol, which I take as a win

What are you doing
just step on them
They're big enough that they hold the top spots without doing anything, most of the people below them are either weak like me or too lazy to do arena
decent where I care
Arena of heroes is the hardest gamemode after all
I'd rather 3/1/1 than 3/6/1 

give me a sec

Just put them to their place, optionally use the exact same comp to assert dominance
teams set are whatever people ask me to set tbh
I think the arena rank 2 is numb from me hitting him all the time as main
But he knows I only hit to burn tickets

I believe in you!
oh yeah, want to see my mail?
Use your chad campaign skills and you will win against even 1T 
Let me guess, filled with them p*rn mags you subbed but didn't collect over the years
I don't do anything for camp 
It's just copy comp -> auto for 5 mins -> pcapped 
afk arena sends us that? 
Pixiv
you gotta show them their place
But I'd have even gone even further by stepping on them until the rating cap kicks in
👠
Try flipping your TS next time
Rank 60% with 3% WR 
Why though, difference between reward is too big


