treasure-scramble

[dusk tundra]

i was right tho, because i tested her

[tawdry hatch]

mf u tested a 309e60 with 4 broken supports

[cinder cargo]

better for them to be slightly behind on meta but always heading the right direction than to take that risk

[tawdry hatch]

that's not testing

[dusk tundra]

i made an alt account with simona as carry

[cinder cargo]

that's not extensive testing though

[tawdry hatch]

I even tested simona trial in campaign at my stage and Raku done way better

[cinder cargo]

you literally cannot fully test a hero within 6 weeks of release

[dusk tundra]

she carries early game, does at least decent midgame and has use late game, is that bad?

[cinder cargo]

or 8 weeks if you are a TS main

[tawdry hatch]

even now simona is kinda average

[cinder cargo]

judging from when he posted that, it's like within 2 weeks of release

[tawdry hatch]

recommended is Rem now anyway, so investing in a 4f hero instead of rem is questionable

[dusk tundra]

was i wrong?

[tawdry hatch]

yes, she's kinda eh still

[dusk tundra]

i said she is a better investment than daimon, not rem

[cinder cargo]

.

[tawdry hatch]

daimon is a smaller investment than simona

[cinder cargo]

again I can afford to take that risk, you can afford to take that risk

[tawdry hatch]

203e00 vs 303e33

[cinder cargo]

but little Timmi in ch8 cannot

[dusk tundra]

where do you see daimon past ch37 campaign and outside it?

[tawdry hatch]

203 daimon > 203 simona

[tawdry hatch]

where do u see simona past ch37 campaign

[dusk tundra]

i use her in almost 300lvl deficits lmfao

[tawdry hatch]

because she's 309e60 and u have nothing better to use

[cinder cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/disagree-yeah-ooh-oh-yeah-oh-yes-gif-15457988

[tawdry hatch]

I mean just campaign, without Ivan

[dusk tundra]

i mean nem i take your advice when you tell me something you've heard from better players but dont talk about a hero you dont know about

[tawdry hatch]

she has use in ashem ts and I think maybe 2 CR's?

[dusk tundra]

again, what use does daimon have?

[tawdry hatch]

I know she's in nemora CR at least, but don't know about the other ones

[tawdry hatch]

he has 1 CR, and just campaign/tower

[woeful plume]

to be fair I do think simona is underrated in campaign but I wouldn't go around recommending ppl it since it's not very well tested. Even my small simona has out damaged my ashem many many times before.

[cinder cargo]

I feel like early game campaign is very "good enough is good enough"

[dusk tundra]

and simona is in ts, campaign, tower, cr

[cinder cargo]

I'd build simona over daimon

[tawdry hatch]

yeah lmao, if it works don't fix it

[tawdry hatch]

daimon is in all except TS, what's ur point

[cinder cargo]

like having a meh that's pretty good late game >>>> a very good early game hero

hence no izold recommendation

[tawdry hatch]

I'm saying daimon needs less investment than Simona, ur saying Simona is better with more investment

[dusk tundra]

im saying daimon becomes useless after a month of playing

[cinder cargo]

more like 4

but

I mean guys

[dusk tundra]

depends, i reached fast ch35+

[cinder cargo]

lets have a look at a very high res image:

oh the resolution is actually not bad

what do we notice here?

[copper quail]

Very good res

[dusk tundra]

haha

[cinder cargo]

They are both there

[tawdry hatch]

so he needs 2 less copies, 300 less reds, 3750 less shards, 400 less cores to max out is all I'm hearing

[dusk tundra]

daimon and thoran can be replaced easily by grezhul and silas

[cinder cargo]

you are a very special case

[carmine shale]

Actually that reminds me

[dusk tundra]

so she has a lot of uses still unlike daimon

[cinder cargo]

so special in fact that you should skip building like 40% of the heroes most new players would build

[tawdry hatch]

she has +1 cr, and +1 pvp comp.....she's not even bis in the pvp comp

[carmine shale]

Should I swap daimons si30? Cause I was gonna swap out Eironn's instead

[dusk tundra]

where is daimon in ts?

[cinder cargo]

eironn is still good in tower and campaign

[tawdry hatch]

ts is pvp

[dusk tundra]

i'd still swap eironns

[cinder cargo]

daimon...

uh

what he do?

[tawdry hatch]

I think for whels he'll be replaced in CR, because of ALuci

[dusk tundra]

oh thought you said simona not daimon mb, swap daimon

[cinder cargo]

or more importantly, what his +30 do?

[carmine shale]

I forget, he was my 1st si30 and I used him to power carry to ch32

[copper quail]

Simona +30 ain't that big.. it just jcrease energy battery

[carmine shale]

But now his use is just 1 CR round and tower

[cinder cargo]

it makes his shield last a little longer

which reduces the window in which he doesn't have a shield and gets 1 shot

[tawdry hatch]

I can't remember, but it was good in r1 Kane cr, but that comp has been replaced by a much better Kane iirc

[dusk tundra]

its double than at +20

[copper quail]

Oh wait I thought it's Simona

[cinder cargo]

which was a problem when daimon was meta carry in ch32

and not a problem in any modern contexts

[tawdry hatch]

not sure if that CR round actually exists anymore
we'll need to see next Kane

[carmine shale]

I have 3 swaps left and my plan was, lucretia = Olgath, Eironn > Trishea, Emilia (si40) = Abelinda

[tawdry hatch]

sounds good

[dusk tundra]

i also got about 200 gaze summs and i dont have olgath built, is she worth it?

[tawdry hatch]

no

[carmine shale]

For ROI maybe not

[dusk tundra]

why did you do em +40? 😄

[tawdry hatch]

I'm 90% sure he means he'll get it with dimblems so that he can save on Reds, and he'll swap it to abel anyway

[carmine shale]

I was pissed off at a dude in arena so I did that to fuck him up lmfao

[dusk tundra]

oh you right yeah

[tawdry hatch]

that's what I'm doing with Rem, getting her si40 with dimblems then swapping to ABel

[dusk tundra]

or nvm

[carmine shale]

XD

[dusk tundra]

im also trying to get rem to +40 with emblems, is it that bad? cuz i dont know who to be my 5th +40

[carmine shale]

It's only 10% increase on rem

[dusk tundra]

i was thinking about atheus

[carmine shale]

Not worth it imo

[tawdry hatch]

it's a boosted version of her si20, it's good but there's higher prios

[dusk tundra]

yea, but stats

[carmine shale]

Atheus si40 looks meta af

[dusk tundra]

or eugene, im 99% sure he will be broken once ascended

[carmine shale]

He's seeing usage in TS too so it's efficient

[tawdry hatch]

abel, aatha, alyca, liberta, lucilla, atheus

[carmine shale]

Eugene si40 also looks OP

[tawdry hatch]

lucilla more a CR thing tho, and u don't do CR

[dusk tundra]

im tryna shift towards nc/cr

[carmine shale]

I don't have lucilla si40 but I've seen it amd I've faced it in TS, honestly I feel like it's underwhelming

[dusk tundra]

any of you know when we will get another two copies of eugene or we gotta wait 6 weeks for them?

[tawdry hatch]

no idea, don't count on it

[tawdry hatch]

it's huge in CR

a lot of people merc lucilla si40 just for that

[dusk tundra]

thought we gonna get a copy each event but last time we got frames instead

[carmine shale]

I'm missing Asaf because I jumped on the Athane/Abrutus train, so can't merc big invest low priority units lol

[dusk tundra]

i miss asaf also, i jumped on alucius train

[carmine shale]

I'm skipping Alucius

[dusk tundra]

i should've done it as well, like i should've done with malkrie

[tawdry hatch]

alucius > asaf is a hella CR thinking

[carmine shale]

So many people said he's only good with max investments and BiS collection

[tawdry hatch]

for now Zekon, try and build the units that I have that u don't have for CR

[cinder cargo]

idk why people are so eager to do bert +40, abel +40 etc.

[carmine shale]

I'm in the same boat as God, trying to build for CR also

[cinder cargo]

it's literally marginal increases for a ridiculous cost

[dusk tundra]

Who am i badly missing here?

[carmine shale]

Yeah People say stats but Abelinda already nukes

[cinder cargo]

ahhh so many +40s

[dusk tundra]

me neither but they carry so whatever, cant be a bad investment

[cinder cargo]

I am a firm believer in unless it makes/breaks the hero, do not get the +40

[inland grove]

I fell out of top 100 @copper quail

[cinder cargo]

and I got +40 abel

[dusk tundra]

i had to jump on the train 😄

[cinder cargo]

but that's because of some haste issues with a certain CR round

[carmine shale]

Hypocrite

[cinder cargo]

so it did break her

BUT

normally, not worth

[dusk tundra]

tbh i dont get the hype around abel at all, she already falling imo

[cinder cargo]

also other benefit is I use abel in campaign, so +40 really helps with powercap :copium:

uh

[carmine shale]

Haste issues, Health ratios with Naroko, Combat ratings, etc etc

God CR is such a mess

[cinder cargo]

I hate how stupid the targetting of buffs is in CR

[tawdry hatch]

LDV is the biggest hit I think, plus asaf/asol, Khaz m30, mortas m20 etc

scarlet si30 and engraving can be used before u get khaz

[carmine shale]

So wait if you think Abel si40 is overrated....should I swap si40 for Alyca instead?

[inland grove]

Back to top 100

[tawdry hatch]

plus veithael

[cinder cargo]

do you want to do CR?

[true magnet]

I love* how they solved that issue with Rosa several years ago and just never did it again

[dusk tundra]

well im 100k coins away from getting mulan so ldv is gonna take a while

[dusk tundra]

i want to switch to cr/nc yeah

[cinder cargo]

CR is gonna be a pretty bad return on investment for you for a very long time

like PRETTY bad

you're gonna be sinking millions of diamonds of resources in for very meh results

[dusk tundra]

im doing decent on ts so theres no point in still focusing that

[cinder cargo]

until you get to top 10%, and then some of that comes back

[abstract storm]

Just focus on getting top 10% on NC, then start focusing on CR

[cinder cargo]

if you are a spending, honestly just holding top 100 or top 50 is all that matters

CR and just be whatever

[tawdry hatch]

this is the last Nemora I did (the closest one I have recorded to coming back)

[abstract storm]

By the time you build most of what you need for NC your box will get a lot better for CR too.

[cinder cargo]

r47 players + CR is just a very not good combo

[tawdry hatch]

see if u have all this stuff

[dusk tundra]

hmm i miss two awakens and scarlett but i can merc scarlett tbh i dont want to invest into her

[tawdry hatch]

so I still need to build Gavus, ABrutus, ABaden and a couple other things then

[tawdry hatch]

nah mercing alyca is bigger

[true magnet]

I dont think anyone meant that

[cinder cargo]

si 40 lyca does sounds pretty good

but abel is abel

[carmine shale]

This is mine, yeah I know my khazard is non existent atm, gonna work on him after Olgath is A1. Still working on Trish and Atheus.

[cinder cargo]

she's the carry

[copper quail]

Daym I'm top 70

[dusk tundra]

oh khazard is used in nc/cr?

[tawdry hatch]

as shown by her 24b round here

[abstract storm]

🫣
You have a long way to go

[tawdry hatch]

ye he's huge in seal round

[cinder cargo]

[dusk tundra]

only one round is he used in?

[tawdry hatch]

can u sponsor me?

[tawdry hatch]

every CR, seal round

[cinder cargo]

also look into swapping for eugene @carmine shale

[dusk tundra]

oh ok then i can gaze for khazard?

[carmine shale]

Im not a whale lmao

[tawdry hatch]

he's BiS, and his min is m30

[true magnet]

r36 and nowhere near that still

[tawdry hatch]

I'd do vei first, then khaz ye

[inland grove]

Rng hitting hard I only win 2 of the 3 instead of all 3 even though my winrate is high for each team

[cinder cargo]

CR really sucks for new players

the newer you are, the more it sucks

[dusk tundra]

hasn't vei fallen pretty hard?

[tawdry hatch]

I'm not top 10% on my alt even

[abstract storm]

Unfortunately I'm not a whale, you should ask flaw

[tawdry hatch]

no

[tawdry hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-misinformation-toji-no-miko-kaoru-mashiko-gif-24078541

this u rn alice ^^

[dusk tundra]

hmmmm

[tawdry hatch]

[carmine shale]

I'm gonna keep Eugene si30 because I'm gonna make him 309e60 😄

[true magnet]

Yeah Im not even new, just not ancient lol

[dusk tundra]

i already got 9f ready for him

[true magnet]

He is a woke, thats a fine move

[cinder cargo]

I mean CR sucks for old players too

CR just sucks

[copper quail]

Mines doing fine

[carmine shale]

But yeah I hate how khazard is needed in CR because I literally refused to waste SG cards on him when I could push campaign without him this whole time

[cinder cargo]

2 most depressing moments in afk arena:

[dusk tundra]

Dont judge my teams i know they prob suck

[true magnet]

I find it fun I just dont do well enough to get the big returns

[cinder cargo]

1. Getting trash rates on SG/TG
2. Getting trash rng for CR

[copper quail]

Looks decent ngl

[cinder cargo]

[carmine shale]

Really wishing I had alyca 9f rn

[tawdry hatch]

my RNG for CR is wild, I keep hitting extremely consistent on alt, but everything is peaking at different times

[cinder cargo]

do people just not use ezio anymore?

I haven't seen people use ezio in alna rem for so long

[tawdry hatch]

so I could be hitting 3-5b higher than I currently am

[dusk tundra]

i dont have him

[true magnet]

when you spend like 600 diamonds for actual nothing 🙂

[tawdry hatch]

he needs 9f

[cinder cargo]

welcome to the pain

worst is different round flunks every time

[copper quail]

Imagine having a problem with CR and NC

[tawdry hatch]

how much have u got so far JD?

[carmine shale]

I tried the team with ezio too, trust me the lack of 9f on alyca is what's killing me rn

[copper quail]

[cinder cargo]

and you hit 40 times and it doesn't line up even once

[tawdry hatch]

yep :despair:

[cinder cargo]

like what the heck bro

which is why you get utak 900 diamonds retries

[copper quail]

That minimum huh

[true magnet]

every time I get a damage PB one team always fucked up

[carmine shale]

I'm st 66m 32% in CR rn

[cinder cargo]

not 900 in total, 900 per

[dusk tundra]

so better to focus nc than cr?

[cinder cargo]

NC you just want 6%

[copper quail]

Wtf

[cinder cargo]

that, or top 200

[copper quail]

[tawdry hatch]

this right here is with everything hitting different each time

[cinder cargo]

I do 900 total

[cinder cargo]

[dusk tundra]

any celepogean to be released soon? i cant hold my cards anymore

[carmine shale]

Not for another month

[tawdry hatch]

this round is my kryptonite

[true magnet]

What if you simply did hold them?

[dusk tundra]

i cant bro 😦

[carmine shale]

You sounded like me with Olgath when I had 90 cards lmfao

[dusk tundra]

i got 100 + 55k diamonds so thats about 220 summs

[carmine shale]

that's only like 5 or 6 copies

[dusk tundra]

-10

[dusk tundra]

i know but maybe luck will come in my way cuz recently every hero i go for takes me to 60 pulls, alucius, malkirie

[true magnet]

Havent hit yet waiting on that sweet sweet Fararararara info

[carmine shale]

I've always been kinda lucky ngl

Especially with my awakened, every awakened I've built so far has been around 350-400 TEs

[true magnet]

waiting for reset anyway I need to merc Maetria

[dusk tundra]

thats maybe average

[copper quail]

Better Abel wins exist

[cinder cargo]

probably

but not for another month yeah

[carmine shale]

Average luck is lucky lmfao, I'd hate to be the sucker who goes 800 TE deep and still not be ascended

[cinder cargo]

if you currently have like 700+ cards, just pull the next best hero

or just hold if you have done everyone that's meaningful

[dusk tundra]

i got most of the meaningful celepogeans fully built

[cinder cargo]

pretty sure that statistically impossible

[carmine shale]

I'm exaggerating obv

[cinder cargo]

but I do know zappy went into 700s

which sucks so much

[carmine shale]

I'd die

[dusk tundra]

deserved for banning me so many times

[cinder cargo]

I keep alternating between 300s and 600s

like ???

[carmine shale]

Can't wait to get olgath and khazard finished though

Because after that I'm done SGing for awhile

[cinder cargo]

can we have a little consistency up here please lilith sir

[dusk tundra]

is mehira used anywhere besides campaign/tower?

[cinder cargo]

CR

[carmine shale]

One CR comp

[cinder cargo]

I use her in 2

[dusk tundra]

thats too bad im not gonna built her then

[carmine shale]

I still don't understand what she's doing there though

[cinder cargo]

she doesn't need to be more than E

M is slightly better in some extreme cases

[carmine shale]

Like does her charm actually work?

[dusk tundra]

i remember how good she was back then, i have her 30960 on my old acc

[cinder cargo]

and you'd need more investment later on when enemy haste picks up

[cinder cargo]

if you have a fat collection on her yeah

I use a 2 M IS one on her

super consistent

[carmine shale]

O.o

The only M IS on any collection I have is on Emilia

[cinder cargo]

well if you want to do well in CR

[dusk tundra]

glad you reminded me, i have to get an IS collection for atheus

[cinder cargo]

you'd gonna need a fat load of IS and PRF collections

I'm talking like 10-15

[carmine shale]

:/

[cinder cargo]

not like 2-3

[carmine shale]

I've been focusing ATK this whole time, except Athalia, who has 2 M CDAs

[cinder cargo]

yeah... unfortunately he wants PRF

ATK is good for TS

[dusk tundra]

mb then lmfao, thx for telling me

[cinder cargo]

and NC

but not campaign and CR

[carmine shale]

Ugh kinda just wanna say fk CR at this point then

[cinder cargo]

(campaign later on becomes very cancerous because enemies start stacking TY with their E60s)

[true magnet]

Just want to sanity check this one last time: next woke ASaf? have Solise Brutus Belinda Baden Lyca Shemira

[cinder cargo]

me too

but

[dusk tundra]

im at ch42-40 so im chill

[cinder cargo]

see this is why everyone should cram

[true magnet]

I did some

[cinder cargo]

but you've gotta be like me

[true magnet]

in those early 500s

[cinder cargo]

enjoys campaign the most of any content in the game

[carmine shale]

I'm not interested in campaign though 😦

[cinder cargo]

which is not that common now since early campaign ends so quickly

[carmine shale]

I like TS the best

[cinder cargo]

it took me like 2 years to get to ch35

[carmine shale]

I just wanna get top 16 in CR however

[cinder cargo]

if I didn't like campaign I'd have quit a long time ago

[carmine shale]

16%

[dusk tundra]

Btw Simona sometimes does very well, this in tower

[cinder cargo]

for the TGs?

[carmine shale]

Yeah

[cinder cargo]

honestly not worth

are you top 100 in TS?

[carmine shale]

Top 50 actually

[cinder cargo]

you look like top 100 guy

yeah

focus on keeping that instead

for CR just yolo it

[true magnet]

the nice thing with CR is that you will rise with time

[cinder cargo]

Some day I'll find time to write another meta game investment theory guide

I feel very discouraged at newer player's inability to see past what's right in front of them

so stopped making those posts on reddit

[true magnet]

I gotta stop checking TS its just depressing, just let this pass and the fixes I made will make the next one better

[carmine shale]

If you say focus TS only then I REALLY wanna swap Emilia for Alyca then

[cinder cargo]

my most recent one was a disaster, so many people woooshed it wasn't even funny

[true magnet]

Its the toughest part of teaching in this game

[carmine shale]

I was only swapping for abel because so many people recommended it for CR and in general

[cinder cargo]

players just want to be told "build X build Y, or focus X focus Y"

don't want to take a step back and look at the bigger picture

[carmine shale]

What's the link?

[cinder cargo]

this one is relatively short, but it was heavily criticized because so many people missed the point https://www.reddit.com/r/afkarena/comments/12z89y9/specialized_investment_theory_2023_update/

[carmine shale]

OMFG that was you?

[cinder cargo]

it was

[carmine shale]

I understood that completely it's the sole reason I focused on TS 100%

[cinder cargo]

do you know how many people roasted me for being "mad cuz bad" and "wanting players to invest offmeta"?

[carmine shale]

I need to get some sleep, gotta get up in 5 hours, but screw it I'm gonna swap Emilia s40 for alyca now, just screw CR

Maybe in 2 years I'll work on CR LOL

[cinder cargo]

that's a good idea

only do CR if you can keep up with TS comfortably and have spare resources

otherwise ROI is just too low

[lime zinc]

People are too stupid to have any idea what the bigger picture even means

[dusk tundra]

Bro vip14 gives an increase of 100% to lab tokens?

[tawdry hatch]

game's too easy

who even needs good teams

[novel nimbus]

Wait I've never seen, was good read

Makes sense too

[upper nexus]

Completely true and kinda nihilistic take lol. Then again, after you get past that "your investments actually mean very little in terms of cost to reward ratio", you free yourself from the trap of only investing strictly on meta heroes, if you don't enjoy that for whatever reason.

[lime zinc]

There shouldn't be such a thing as 'freeing' yourself from it
You invest in meta because you enjoy good units

[unique palm]

Interesting , definitely made me reevaluate what I enjoy about this game. I like building wokes and ranking higher in TS. I guess that means I should pick the low hanging fruit for TE’s and maybeeee continue investing in ts rather than swapping to cr after t100… feels so weird and off meta though. I hope I didn’t miss your point

[lime zinc]

No one's being forced to play well, they do it because they want to succeed

[inland grove]

Im forced

[manic jungle]

I’m forced

[tawdry hatch]

I'm forced

[lime zinc]

hi forced

[cinder cargo]

I too am forced at gun point

It's a sad story

I think newer players should just do TS and hoard excess combo honestly

[upper nexus]

Imo no. The reason people invest in meta is not bc of something as simple as enjoying good units. It's bc of something else, likely, placing higher ranks or getting better rewards.

[cinder cargo]

CR is a resource sinkhole, not worth to actually try hard to place well if to can get top 100/50 in TS

That is, it's not worth to build high invest heroes specifically for CR

But thankfully there's a ton of overlap, which means you'll end up doing pretty good in CR anyways even if yo full invest TS

[upper nexus]

And there is actually such a thing as freeing yourself from it. If there wasn't, there would be no need for JD's post.

[lime zinc]

What does enjoying units even mean though

[upper nexus]

Idk that's kinda subjective anyway

[lime zinc]

If you even cared about that, you'd do it at the expense of ranks like people do

[upper nexus]

After reading that, I will still continue to focus investing in particular game modes (TS). And the reason is the same as why I play other games: I liek number go big

[fair rapids]

[upper nexus]

[turbid scroll]

There is no bigger picture

Resources in this game are fairly limited, it's only natural to ask someone with more experience what's worth building first

[novel nimbus]

the problem is when people essentially have other people play their accounts for them with the amount of decisions managed

[cinder cargo]

Define worth

I'm not trying to play with semantics over here, it's a serious question

Is worth the most value you can extract out of a hero before they fall out of meta?

If a hero is really good everywhere but is so expensive that they only ever pay back a tiny fraction of their cost, are they worth?

Is a hero that is a lot less good, but is very cheap worth?

Are they worth if they only benefit a game mode you don't care about, and even so lose value anyways?

Like I mentioned in the post (I think, maybe it's a different one I didn't publish), there are hardly any investments yo can make in the game that is objectively worth

Players are only kept afloat by a constant bombardment of free stuff

It's like imagine investing in stocks only for them to never grow, and having the illusion that your portfolio is doing okay because you keep pumping more cash into it

[upper nexus]

It's like spending hours upon hours training agility in Runescape to unlock an agility shortcut that saves you like 30 seconds every time you use it lol

[cinder cargo]

So then it follows that players should think about what they actually want (specifically what game modes they enjoy or want to focus on) instead of just blinding building XYZ because the guide said so

Obviously not really a problem for early to mid game

But as soon as they hit a point where they reach the T100 or top 16% CR they were aiming for, this becomes a real question

For me, I like building modern meta and doing okay across the modes, but above that I like playing with cool new heroes in campaign

[upper nexus]

It's the law of diminishing returns

[cinder cargo]

So for me, cramming is super worth

Whereas someone else who does not might look at cramming and criticize it for not helping with RGMs

[rotund island]

You see the new benchmark layout that is going to be taking over jd?

[cinder cargo]

For afkit?

[rotund island]

Yeah

[cinder cargo]

Also btw I asked, and apparently lilith declined previous attempts because they didn't want to have external bots in the server

[rotund island]

It doesn't even have message perms though, it can't read any chat

It can only see commands that it uses

[cinder cargo]

Ik, but they just don't want external bots, not necessarily because of functionality or problems the bot could cause

[rotund island]

Whelp oh well

Atleast we tried

[cinder cargo]

Which is a bummer

[tawdry hatch]

damn lilith is kinda cringe

[cinder cargo]

We could try to push for it with lilith again

But I'm skeptical they'd change their stance

I'm super down to screenshot the new thing and paste it in questions

[rotund island]

Yeah that's fine

[cinder cargo]

But then that would cause the spam issue

[rotund island]

xD

[cinder cargo]

Eh, as long as people don't way over use it

[upper nexus]

What is this?

[cinder cargo]

"I have 300 reds, let me pull up and paste the 8 heroes I'm considering"

Do an outer join with the database

[tawdry hatch]

in one message per image

[upper nexus]

Wow that's very cool

[cinder cargo]

Wow that's cool

Dang love the engraving nodes

[rotund island]

Just merge them all into one giant image

[cinder cargo]

Dude, what if we collage every single hero

Just a mega wall

[rotund island]

the base image is like 790x1400

would be giant

[cinder cargo]

It's okay

Only 140000 pixels wide

[tawdry hatch]

u wouldn't be able to see jackshit on it hahaha

[lime zinc]

Couldn't you just put it in a spreadsheet

[cinder cargo]

But it's not visual

[tawdry hatch]

that's how we're pulling and adjusting the info six, but that's not as fun

[rotund island]

It's not nearly as easy to read though

[lime zinc]

No like the literal images in a spreadsheet

[cinder cargo]

Monkey brain want colorful picture

[cinder cargo]

O

[rotund island]

Probably yeah

[cinder cargo]

But hard to access on phone

[rotund island]

But wouldn't be able to update automatically

Might need to do some more research for google sheet api though

Hated it in the past

[lime zinc]

Ah yeah manual updating is pain

[rotund island]

Doesn't seem possible to do it automatically, I'd have to create an excel file everytime with every image already in it

Then export it into sheets

[lime zinc]

Yikes

[cinder cargo]

What about a website

Like react webapp

Similar to afk builder

[rotund island]

That means I need to finish the afkit website I put off a while back

Had a prototype going, but life got busy

[copper quail]

Oh nc improvement

[turbid scroll]

The most value you can get out of the resources invested into that particular hero

Heroes that won't fall out of meta easily are easy investments, like ashem, liberta, daemia and so on

So it only seems natural when there's someone that's a newcomer to ask such questions, like who to build, there are heroes that will last for awhile which is why they're worth building first

[dusk tundra]

here comes the smart guy

im sure this dude JD needed the lecture

[copper quail]

@dusk tundra you need a lecture about how inflation of signature item cause this dumb stupid game a problem

[dusk tundra]

by someone that has at least two digits iq

[copper quail]

Why.... I can explain it to you with my 1 digit

[edgy pumice]

1

[dusk tundra]

im sure yours is still higher than someones that didnt get past ch31

[cunning ruin]

🍿

[inland grove]

That was truly a treasure scramble moment

[solid monolith]

dont think you need to be told again to stop taking shots at other people, do you

[inland grove]

[edgy pumice]

can i shoot people in here

[cunning ruin]

Are you TS chat because you start unnecessary arguments or do you start unnecessary arguments because you are TS chat?

[cunning ruin]

[tawdry hatch]

https://tenor.com/view/talene-afk-arena-burn-it-all-gif-19187202

[inland grove]

No I'd win the argument

[cunning ruin]

Stand proud, you have brainrot

[inland grove]

🧍‍♂️

[solid monolith]

yes

[edgy pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-shooting-dont-be-a-menace-funny-lmao-gif-6119299

[solid monolith]

i regret my word already

[tawdry hatch]

giving bok any freedom of choice seems to be a mistake

[lime zinc]

🎍

[inland grove]

Bok scares me

[cunning ruin]

as we all should

fear the Bok

[copper sphinx]

@edgy pumice what's your favorite Linkin Park song

[edgy pumice]

CRAWWWWWWWWWWWWLING IIIIIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIIIIIIN

[copper sphinx]

THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAAAAAAAL

[rough hare]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-riffs-cole-rolland-playing-electric-guitar-guitar-solo-performing-gif-26203916

[dusk tundra]

Gotta love region splits

[cunning ruin]

why don't we test that? do you volunteer as test subject?

[tawdry hatch]

it would yeah

[dusk tundra]

Why?

[inland grove]

Who might that be

[solid monolith]

incase you are curious, no, I will not stop taking screenshots of me beating the jd and dragon in my region

[cunning ruin]

ghost ping

[copper quail]

[edgy pumice]

@cunning ruin

[cunning ruin]

[latent elbow]

That's a very cool update but I'm not sure about the breakpoint part. I see how it's done but I feel like new players would go from 203 to 309e4x and waste an early SI30 on Rem

[lime zinc]

Well dims specifically you'd rather do with dimblems anyway

Although idk whether newbies ever can afford them

[latent elbow]

After JoA shards you can have some. But I think as the first hyper-carry they could be tempted to SI30 her asap like we've seen with Daimon. Even some people here have done her +30 with reds

[inland grove]

12% winrate in 4 teams out of 4 matches not bad

Just getting thrown back in and out the whole time

[civic badger]

i'm at 18%

[inland grove]

keep it up

[civic badger]

i dont like ur sarcasm

[inland grove]

Lool it's better than mine

[tawdry hatch]

69% winrate :BigHappy:

[civic badger]

🐳

[tawny igloo]

@dapper lance
I need some pet help yet again

Currently reso 6 but I have 7 pets lvl 9 (with seal being 18 ofc), there's an 8th pet soon lvl 9, I have 24 raw spices and 20 spices from battery

So I'll have about ~71 spices (bare minimum) when my last pet is done, should I go tali owl 18 and start working on reso 12? or should I just go straight to reso 12 and start working on reso 15? OR do I go reso 12 and start working on another lvl 18 pet?

when we first talked about it my plan was to double 18 owl and tali at the same time but the more I wait, the bigger the gap gets in TS and it's getting hard to fight for T50

[turbid scroll]

Damn, looks like I'm getting lucky this round @tawdry hatch

[cinder cargo]

See this is the exact thing I was writing against in my post

You only look at the rewards right in front of you without considering the cost and returns

It's kinda hard to see what I mean when you've not been playing for very long

And haven't gone through as many meta shifts

[turbid scroll]

You must build something regardless, the cost and return of major heroes is what keeps you going

[cinder cargo]

But you'll get it on like 2 years time

[cinder cargo]

That is true, but what should you build?

When should you build it?

[turbid scroll]

I gave you an example, ashem, daemia, lib, alna, stuff like that

They can't fall off meta no matter what

[cinder cargo]

Those are universal heroes that are basic for accounts to build

[cinder cargo]

This isn't true

[turbid scroll]

There's always certain utility for them somewhere

[latent elbow]

Lib is not immune to pcreep imo

[cinder cargo]

We thought that to be true of so many heroes

We thought rowan would never fall off

We thought lyca would never fall off

[turbid scroll]

You can't compare rowan to someone that has cheat death or ridiculous dmg

[cinder cargo]

But powercreep always gets to them eventually

[turbid scroll]

They literally can't fall off meta, there's always gonna be a use for them somewhere

[cinder cargo]

Ainz had ridiculous damage

Look where he is now

Lucretia had a meta breaking kit

[lime zinc]

Young players probably can't fathom it because they haven't seen powercreep over time

[cinder cargo]

Look where she is now

[turbid scroll]

Again, ainz ain't comparable to someone like liberta

Lib on top of dmg also has healing

[latent elbow]

If Liberta is outdamaged his support kit isn't as impressive as Daemia or Lavatune

[cinder cargo]

Ainz also had a mega stun and 50% hp hit 12 seconds into the battle

And is cc immune at the start

Such that yo can't just grab him to stop him from wiping your team

[lime zinc]

I think Ainz stayed at top meta longer than any other hero

[cinder cargo]

He was the real deal back then

Remember the Nilas pvp guide meme?

[turbid scroll]

I don't see what we're arguing about here, there's heroes that will be useful all this year moving forward regardless, those are the first to build

[cinder cargo]

I was talking specifically about after you build your core roster

So in modern day would look like after you are around ch40

I'm not saying never ascend a single hero

[turbid scroll]

And i was talking about core heroes that can't fall off meta quickly, that's why i said that there's nothing bad for someone new to ask what to build

[cinder cargo]

I did also clarify I was talking about late game into end game

[turbid scroll]

Which is why i said that resources are very limited, which why you must get the best out of that resources early on

[abstract storm]

🥳 TS is finally going well

[cinder cargo]

Nice!

[cinder cargo]

I'm not disagreeing

We're just talking about two very different sections of progression

[turbid scroll]

Anyway I'm gonna ask someone with more experience when I'm in doubt just so that i can get the most out of the resources

[cinder cargo]

At the start it's very obvious what to invest in, where to spend resources etc

But people fall into the trap of thinking it continues being that way forever without considering what exactly they are doing with their resources

[solid monolith]

did you stop hoarding marian?

[turbid scroll]

Yeah i got tired of it zappy

I was too early for that

Missing out on rift resources and what not

[solid monolith]

makes sense. i cant hold any resources if my life depended on it

[crimson valve]

raisin bran is a mod!

[turbid scroll]

Anyway i start to hate raku

[solid monolith]

🥣

[cinder cargo]

Zappy is soup I agree

[crimson valve]

no hes cereal brand

[crimson valve]

google raisin bran kellogs

[cinder cargo]

Rng is really bad?

[cinder cargo]

I see the connection lol

But yeah it's the same principle behind not doing things like +40 Bert, abelinda and rem etc for me

Is it good because they are good? Yeah sure I guess

Is it worth the 150k diamonds worth of resources you put in? Probably not

[turbid scroll]

Eh, not that horrible

[cinder cargo]

Nice

37-16 was the worst of ch37

Nothing else was bad rng iirc

[turbid scroll]

Ngl I'm liking that new hero alot

[cinder cargo]

Dancers?

[turbid scroll]

He's a good combo alongside atheus and tamrus

[cinder cargo]

Like how he knocks people back

[turbid scroll]

I pushed a whole chapter with his trial

Funny enough he's more tanky than alucius

[cinder cargo]

Makes it very nice when combined with atheus, Mulan, talis, fox, owl etc

[cinder cargo]

That's true lol

Triple cheat death is no joke

[turbid scroll]

Looks like every stage has flora now

[latent elbow]

That's the thing when you have access to what seems to be a lot of ressources. You think it's safe to use some of them. But for now, whites income is really slow and mandatory +40 heroes will probably appear in the future

[dapper lance]

Can you DM me lol

This is too much to think about while I'm out

[dark kraken]

i havent seen flora in a hot while kekw

[carmine shale]

Can't believe you guys discussed the reddit thread JD posted for like 14 hours now, crazy

[turbid scroll]

Must be nice

[manic jungle]

scwamblers

[carmine shale]

Assemble?

[cunning ruin]

Treasure scammers

[trail swift]

🙄

[turbid scroll]

Looks like you're having a good time

[edgy pumice]

ANY SCAMMERS??????????????????????????????????

[inland grove]

Im top 100 scammer 😎

[umbral surge]

Isnt Rowan still 1st si30 hero?

It sounds like he is not useful anymore

[upper nexus]

With Rem in garrison I'd personally si30 Ivan first. Das just me tho

[copper quail]

4% baby

[trail swift]

most random teams ever

[inland grove]

I have same team as you for rem. But mine is 50% winrate because rem is not 9f

[trail swift]

rcl9 🤔

[true magnet]

GL scramblers

[inland grove]

Are youuuu readyyyyy to scrambleeee

[true magnet]

maybe

[manic jungle]

scrabblers

[abstract storm]

Not the result I expected

[dark kraken]

hes falling off in modes that matter heck ecen campaign

lib mehira core is good enough

[cinder cargo]

I mean where do you see him actually used later on

or even earlier on

you can just spam vaults and get a very similar effect

[proven hearth]

you have to have rowan to get the collection open though

[cinder cargo]

only 1 copy though

[proven hearth]

[carmine shale]

I'm so warped by this game that I almost wouldn't care to be a dolphin and spend 200$ a month.

What's wrong with me

[queen crystal]

It’s not worth it brother

[edgy pumice]

2 years ago I’d have said worth it to support the game but now nah

[carmine shale]

Fair enough

[manic jungle]

2 years ago is like 2018

[lime zinc]

[turbid scroll]

Bruh what, that makes no sense

How tf is it 0%

[queen crystal]

lvl 9 seal

[true magnet]

seal 9 aint gonna be winning fights

[turbid scroll]

It's region 47 bruh not region 1

There should be one weak mf at some point

[queen crystal]

look at reports

but 9 really ain’t doing a lot

[true magnet]

ty for ASaf

[turbid scroll]

So it's facing only rem teams, i see

[queen crystal]

[turbid scroll]

I guess that I'll change it with this and see if it stays 0%

[copper quail]

Looks promising already but not at the same time ,

I might put it back again

[true magnet]

308 cards spent and I have M+ ASaf so I might not need it many more times

[turbid scroll]

@queen crystal it won once, damn damn

[inland grove]

Oi stall team that early

[turbid scroll]

I was trying, probably not a great idea

[copper quail]

Unlucky rng drop me 1%, I'm staying in top 100 for 24hours straight too hays

3 Ashem 1 Athalia team

[inland grove]

Yeah I think top 100 comes down to rng

[copper quail]

It give me -12

[inland grove]

Yeah my teams are all just average each of them are like 40% to 60% winrate

No simona built and no 9f rem make my ashem and rem team kinda mediocre

[copper quail]

I have 80% , 60% 50% and 7%

[inland grove]

7%

[copper quail]

I don't want to break my lineup

[inland grove]

Yeah same here idk wtf I'm gonna do with my team 5

[copper quail]

Oh team 5 I'll break it , even if I lose TS100

[inland grove]

Either I do stall or scarlet

[copper quail]

it is what it is

[inland grove]

Me like aathalia very low investment team but good winrate

[woeful plume]

My scarlet team is 3% win rate

With lava

I need Abel so badly.

[inland grove]

Oh god this was my team 5 plan. Now I'm reconsidering

[woeful plume]

I think scarlet works until it doesn't

Ppl around this rank are too big for scarlet

In 46

[inland grove]

Yeah 46 is a monster

[lime zinc]

That's hype dude, it's actually a number not 0

[tawdry hatch]

the fact ur getting that much in 4t is criminal

[woeful plume]

Annnnd this is why you don't do x10 when you only need 1 copy. I got too impatient.

[tawdry hatch]

:despair:

I single pulled to finish my Lucilla

[woeful plume]

Wtf what's Abel last e44 node aside from atk, MP, haste?

[trail swift]

5*

[true magnet]

I think she has a weird MR or something dont quote me

[trail swift]

her mr has haste sub-stat but not rly worth the cores

[turbid scroll]

Damn you stronk

I'm going down @tawdry hatch

I'm not gonna check it anymore, I don't want any heart attack

[tawdry hatch]

[trail swift]

nlem

[turbid scroll]

Ye, getting lucky matchmaking

[edgy pumice]

Single pulling last copy feels so good

[lime zinc]

Last couple things I SG/TE'd the last copy with singles was the worst luck

[edgy pumice]

Skill issue

[lime zinc]

Actually it's a pro gamer move to get good luck at the start

[edgy pumice]

Wrong

[lime zinc]

Untruthful

[edgy pumice]

false

[lime zinc]

Incorrect

[edgy pumice]

erroneous

[lime zinc]

Superfluous

[edgy pumice]

inaccurate

[obtuse mauve]

Mistaken

[upper nexus]

misleading

[lime zinc]

Untenable

[edgy pumice]

misguided

[upper nexus]

delusion

[edgy pumice]

unsound

[upper nexus]

Shaky

[edgy pumice]

untrue

[copper quail]

Unfixable

[solid monolith]

@edgy pumice post teams so i can copy ty

[edgy pumice]

ulmus x 5 for 7 teams

[astral hatch]

There you go

[solid monolith]

going to pretend lucius is belinda

[inland grove]

fallacious

[solid monolith]

unless you think this can be lucius

[turbid scroll]

Ofc, he that one copy wonder don't you know?

[upper nexus]

Didn't even notice new scramble start 30 min ago.. I hope whatever teams I put there do okay

[tidal ember]

Best teams?

[cunning ruin]

9f Raku
no 9f Daemia
SI30 Rem

[spare palm]

U and ur hate for si30 rem is so funny

[lime zinc]

Someone that old would be old enough to SI30 Rem with leftover dimblems

[cunning ruin]

They have SI20 Mulan

[lime zinc]

Ok that doesn't make sense though

[upper nexus]

I si30 rem cause I wanna give her wings

[cunning ruin]

[solid monolith]

so i shouldnt si40 rem

[lime zinc]

The bigger mistake than SI30 Rem is e60 Rem anyway

[spare palm]

🙁

I have both

[lime zinc]

SI30 is fine if you're super old

[spare palm]

I need some help with a 2nd team cause raku without SI30 is bringing it down to 0%

[cunning ruin]

SI30 is like very low priority but you get it eventually because i is essentially ftee

[lime zinc]

Raku with SI30 would still only be like 2%

[cunning ruin]

e60 is just.. why? The core stats are already unlocked at e44

[solid monolith]

i dont think si30 raku will help

[spare palm]

It was at a cool 70 then after I swapped his SI it dropped to 0

[solid monolith]

to make her e67

[cunning ruin]

Sir I don’t speak kraken

[lime zinc]

Why would you swap it and still use him

[spare palm]

I swapped him while he was still in the team

This is why I’m asking I don’t want to use him

[cunning ruin]

You can SI swap tomorrow so I’d just swap away Tamrus for someone better. Tamrus at just SI30 without further investment is mediocre at best.

You’re missing a lot of furn tho so idk

[solid monolith]

get to swap this for something finally

[cunning ruin]

Lots of heroes want 9f first before further investments and Tamrus is one of them

Instead of Raku you can try Trish but without 303e4x I don’t think she deals enough damage

[spare palm]

She’s at 2 rn and I have a mythic card

[cunning ruin]

Not worth carding imo

[turbid scroll]

Hey, not a mistake, tomorrow her si is getting swapped with daemia

I planned with months of advance

[dark kraken]

uhhhh

[cunning ruin]

SI30 Rem spotted

[lime zinc]

E80 kraken

[edgy pumice]

rem only needs si50

[inland grove]

Should i si 10 rem

[cunning ruin]

do not even activate her SI

at this point don't even link her, use Elite Rem

[inland grove]

I have her L

[cunning ruin]

=restarting

[edgy pumice]

=deletingexistence

[inland grove]

Oi im 1%

[turbid scroll]

@tawdry hatch well that's better than the 4% of stall

[inland grove]

Gonna risk it

[spare palm]

Top tier rem hater 😭

[inland grove]

Downhill from here for me 🫡

[true magnet]

we 'crambling

[upper nexus]

Day 5 (6?) here we go

Errday I'm scramblin

[inland grove]

rank 100 lets gooo im treasure gambling

[twin yoke]

What should my 5th team be I’m out of good heroes

[dusk tundra]

hello

[manic jungle]

scrabblers

[true magnet]

'cramblin

[turbid scroll]

@tawdry hatch damn

[inland grove]

Currently treasure crumbling

[turbid scroll]

Ngl feels good for once to look at rankings and see myself with a decent rank

[inland grove]

Sheesh nice

[turbid scroll]

Not sure how it's gonna be at the end, but if i stay top 10% I'll be happy

[inland grove]

You obviously will haha you are 1%

[turbid scroll]

Yeah but once i hit more than 4 teams shit will go downhill

Even tho this kind of rewards makes it easier to build up daemia and move to alna

[inland grove]

you got this

[dusk tundra]

welcome to t100 bro

[inland grove]

Wtf you mean

I dropped

[dusk tundra]

oh whoops

[inland grove]

I wanted to get to top 60 and messed up my teams

[dusk tundra]

Ez

[inland grove]

Ill get back in though keep destroying the people who just got to 5 teams

Shees top 20 keep it up!

[turbid scroll]

At what wr do you usually maintain your rank

[dusk tundra]

hopefully, its tight maybe i can keep t20

[turbid scroll]

Is it like 57% overall?

[inland grove]

No im dropping with 60

It's more important to win all matches

Like if you even lose 1 of the matches you miss out on a lot of points

[turbid scroll]

Are you also on r47 loler?

[inland grove]

Yeah

[dusk tundra]

depends how much you progress in 2t or 3t teams, afterwards you can mentain your rank with a decent 55% wr

[turbid scroll]

Nice

[inland grove]

I think that's because you are in the upper part of the brackets where you face strong players

[dusk tundra]

i mean i get to that rank within two days, then the rest of ts im just maintaining

[inland grove]

Yeah i screwed up I put rowan with emilia

[dusk tundra]

i was even lower a few days ago tbh, my pool is big enough for 5/6 good teams

[turbid scroll]

@dusk tundra i unblocked you, now make sure not to be a dick again

Let's treat each other with mutual respect

[dusk tundra]

[inland grove]

You should be better the longer this goes since you have a strong pool

Maybe top 10 finish

[dusk tundra]

yea i guess so but we'll see if i can stay t20, t10 almost impossible i dont think so

[turbid scroll]

I'm weak af

[inland grove]

Yeah they are too big whales up there but wish you the best

[dusk tundra]

why did you engrave daimon

[inland grove]

You are doing well if you are 1% with that box

[dusk tundra]

im close to vip14

[turbid scroll]

That was long ago

[woeful plume]

same amount of e60 and si40 as me monkaS

[inland grove]

Nice

[dusk tundra]

oh right ima waste my signature swap to get daimon to 0SI

[dusk tundra]

like 180$ away

[turbid scroll]

I got no swaps left to do now at least

[inland grove]

Bro I'm thinking of spending to guarantee top 100 every time

It's so tempting since I am so close

[dusk tundra]

imo not worth but if you can spare some money why not

if i could i would've refunded all the money 😄

[inland grove]

I can but I already been f2p this whole time it'd be a waste to change up now

[dusk tundra]

theres no reward for being f2p

[inland grove]

Yeah but it's a fun challenge

[carmine shale]

Asaf and alyca are really strong in TS for low spenders

[dusk tundra]

yea if you're having fun that way why not, but if you think you'd have more fun by spending a bit do it

[turbid scroll]

I'd take those every other week as a f2p

[dusk tundra]

there are higher prios for low spenders than alyca or asaf unless your account is old and you got most of them build already

[inland grove]

True, just the top 100 rewards are so juicy haha

[carmine shale]

Right I get that

[dusk tundra]

decent enough yea

[carmine shale]

Athalia abelinda etc

But I mean if you reach a point where it's those 2 vs aluc and Gavus then yeah

[inland grove]

I think alyca and asafiya are like 4th and 5th in prio

[turbid scroll]

I need to keep building bait, i feel like that's gonna be the breakpoint between me and other f2p players

[inland grove]

Sooo good

Sharing is caring give me 1 bait

[carmine shale]

Yeah Pets are massive, full send baits until reso 18 basically

[dusk tundra]

hmm yea probably, but its gonna take a while, i got seal to 18 within two months by spending a lot but since then i havent made any progress on pets

[turbid scroll]

I don't think that many are aware of how batteries work in this game

[dusk tundra]

sure just wait for it

[inland grove]

Cheers

[dusk tundra]

[turbid scroll]

Soon getting mulan also

[dusk tundra]

yea i need 100k coins for mulan also

[turbid scroll]

That shit shop is taking forever to get them

[dusk tundra]

you got merlin built or mulan its the first?

[turbid scroll]

Mulan first

[dusk tundra]

oh.... okk, i already got merlin

[inland grove]

Pulled my misty valley furn pulls and it was eugene and albedo . The two I need the least currently

[turbid scroll]

I felt like she was more useful for me as a f2p

[dusk tundra]

probably, i would've done mulan first too tbh, dont know why i didnt

[inland grove]

Bedo fine actually I get her soon

[dusk tundra]

i already got 9f for eugene i cant wait to ascend him

[inland grove]

Off natural pulls or you got the cards ready?

[dusk tundra]

pulls, there was no point on doing cards on a hero you cant ascend

[turbid scroll]

I'm having a hard time nowdays maintaining a good use of my resources

[inland grove]

Congratz now just a waiting game

[turbid scroll]

Feels hard getting 200 stones monthly for the dimensionals exchange

[dusk tundra]

I got 29 heroes to 9f already, + Eugene that would be 30

[turbid scroll]

At least rem is almost done, then i can move to albedo

[dusk tundra]

its hard for f2p

[dusk tundra]

im waiting to go for albedo also

[woeful plume]

spending a bit won't get you far, probably not worth losing the f2p tag unless u plan to spend consistently from now on.

[turbid scroll]

I probably need to save up some resources tho because I'm certain that soon they gonna talk about new dimensionals

[inland grove]

True got to keep mental

[dusk tundra]

i mean 15$-20$ here and there over a long period of time can get you further than spending 1000$ in a day

[unique palm]

I wonder how whaley is r47 comparing to the early days of r46. Not that I’d expect anyone to really know lol

[inland grove]

Eh not too whaley

Some of the top ones for sure big whales though

[turbid scroll]

I mean r46 had asalgurd who kept the standards high

[dusk tundra]

i can keep t15-30 r47 by spending 4k so you decide how whaley is r47 compared to r46. r46 highest i reached was 54 or 57 cant remember

[unique palm]

We got Dd on that point

[woeful plume]

ya if u spend $15 once a month for like 5 years maybe.

[turbid scroll]

That's because of asalgurd

[dusk tundra]

i said here and there not once a month 😄 but yeah if you spend 100-150$ monthly that would get you pretty far

[woeful plume]

yeah but $150 per month isn't small amount of spending for most people, with that you would defo get pretty big advantage yeah.

[dusk tundra]

tbf only the noble subscriptions are 70$+ for all 3 of them, if you buy the deluxe package that would be another 60$ on top of the 70$

but you can skip the soulstones one cuz they're useless once you got enough heroes so thats 50$ less

[woeful plume]

Around £100 per month is the goldilock zone of spending ya

after that the things are more limited time and have less value per £.

[dusk tundra]

imo the ocasional deals you get on exchange events are worth up to 25$ ones, that can get you plenty of extra resources

or the ocasional 15$ passes

[turbid scroll]

Hopefully the next collab arrives after i finish this mission

[dusk tundra]

Thats another 3 months

[turbid scroll]

Now i gotta start saving big time

[turbid scroll]

I mean if they add it next month that means that I'm in time

[inland grove]

Lol that isnt happening. That's 100 days

[turbid scroll]

Since it takes 60+ days before you can exchange

[dusk tundra]

On vip14 you get double the lab coins

[turbid scroll]

I hate mauler tower btw

[dusk tundra]

Me too, early i hated the wilder tower but now my maulers are lacking badly since i dont have any of their awakens built

[turbid scroll]

Next mauler awakaned better be good, since that's gonna be my next awakaned to build most likely

[dusk tundra]

I think the next aw is mauler anyway

[turbid scroll]

Nah i want it to be after this one

That way i can finish athalia and move to him

[dusk tundra]

Understandable, i started asaf then alucius got released and i switched but i should've stayed on asaf since alucius doesnt seem to be that good

[turbid scroll]

Well, after athalia I'll just wait and see the one that has the most value for ts

[inland grove]

We are just TS fiends haha

[turbid scroll]

I mean ts is the only place where i will get good rewards moving forward

The ts investments gonna work for other places also moving forward

[dusk tundra]

I cant decide if i should do rem to +40 or eugene

[turbid scroll]

Going down again, i was at 1% for 1 hour

Starting to get lucky with the matchups

[inland grove]

Rakudayyy's guide has eugene as average and rem at si 35

[dusk tundra]

@inland grove You cant say Eugene is average when you dont even got engravings and furniture unlocked, for me he looks op

[inland grove]

Yeah that's why he put it average just read it. Depends on how he turns out

1 more good win I'm back in top 100

[turbid scroll]

Speaking of rem

[dusk tundra]

These look op to me

[turbid scroll]

My wr on the first team got a bit higher by swapping daemia and rem

[inland grove]

I mean you likely won't go too wrong with an awakened

And it does look op

[dusk tundra]

Well.. gavus isnt the best hero i've built tbh

[inland grove]

True but still a good hero nonetheless

[dusk tundra]

Average

[turbid scroll]

I wouldn't go that far

To call him good, he's way too niche to be considered as good

[dusk tundra]

Oh i forgot i got Eugene ascended in rift

[turbid scroll]

I mean that eugene doesn't have collection

[inland grove]

Still performed pretty well it seems like

[woeful plume]

try running engine with gavus

[dusk tundra]

Yeah it doesnt have collection

[dusk tundra]

2.0 tdi?

[turbid scroll]

At this point they should give collections to beacons

At least the basic one that you get from missions

[dusk tundra]

Hmm yeah they could give an average collection to trials/beacons

[turbid scroll]

Anyway time to go to work, have a nice day

[dusk tundra]

You too

[inland grove]

👋

[fair rapids]

dd xdno manhua kaden ceirs

[dreamy adder]

Yo! Any tips on how to improve my team for the next round? I’m kinda sitting around top 90 and I wanna be safer into t100 if possible

[cunning ruin]

If you get Numisu SI10 you can make Scarlet desperation team which could do well in newer regions

I’d make T5
Misha ?? Frontline
Numisu Scarlet ?? Backline

Make a proper Alna Rem team with Emi Naro Dae

Jerome out aShem team and place with aAtha

So like
T1 Alna Rem Naro Emi Dae
T2 Mishka [tank] Numisu Scarlet [Support]
T3 aShem Grez Ferael Simona Oden
T4 aAtha JoA Jerry Palmer Bert
T5 Rowan Lava Raine aBel Ivan

Make Simona SI20
Make Numisu SI10 or SI15

Could put Bert in T2 and put Tamrus in T4 instead of him

Could swap aAtha and Jerome position, I usually put my aAtha backline

T2 will probably be low winrate around 20% to 30% depending on the matchups. Other teams should make up for it thob

Just to show I’m not trolling this is what I’m using

[rough hare]

Wheres your bedo for dims?

[inland grove]

Nice troll bud

[rough hare]

[inland grove]

Mate I trolled myself I might not make it 🫡

[rough hare]

oh nah idc you called him troll your just doing better then me in ts

[inland grove]

You are higher rank than me

[rough hare]

what your were like 49 when i last checked

[inland grove]

I did what I call a pro move

[rough hare]

the classic wout throw

[inland grove]

Not doomed yet I'm pulling another pro move

[cunning ruin]

Farara cooked these for me

[inland grove]

Cook for me

I'm in trouble

[cunning ruin]

If you hate on me you hate on Farara just saying

[rough hare]

they do look good, si30 bedo would make them better