treasure-scramble

[inland grove]

Mate you can't be doing this to me 😭 @dusk tundra

[cunning ruin]

What’s that team tho

[polar dune]

Their best probably

[inland grove]

The I don't have anything team

[cunning ruin]

Talking about Zekon’s

Is that a genuine team because that just seems like a bunch of meta heroes bunched together

[polar dune]

Yeah their best probably

[inland grove]

I meana bunch of meta heroes together would be strong

[cunning ruin]

iirc he has a pretty good box tho

[polar dune]

You sure ?

Its literally his best

[cunning ruin]

No, I might be misremembering

[inland grove]

Yeah but he is like rank 23 right now so its working

[cunning ruin]

It’s just weird for me to see Alna without Rem

[tawdry hatch]

welcome to ice

[cunning ruin]

oh right

[inland grove]

Yeah ice makes everything weird

[cunning ruin]

Very good f2p 3 week progress, good job

[polar dune]

Thanks man

[inland grove]

Id restart

[viscid prawn]

Is there a TS meta comp guide

[tawdry hatch]

no
check TheAFKGuys on reddit if u want whel shit

[inland grove]

Yeah reddit theafkguys but you need to sub and stuff

[rough hare]

so close

[inland grove]

[polar dune]

If i get a full refund , I wouldn’t play this game

[cunning ruin]

The fuck man

[polar dune]

or maybe i’ll finally try it f2p

[inland grove]

Lol i respect that

[cunning ruin]

Are you still spending?

[polar dune]

Can buy so much hooker with the amount

I have not bought anything since last week

[rough hare]

and cocaine

[cunning ruin]

[rough hare]

[inland grove]

Would you rather have 100 hooker at the same time or a abelinda si 40

[cunning ruin]

Shop value is great man, 260k diamonds for 1 SI40 is great value

[polar dune]

Abel 40

100 hooker on 100 diff days

[rough hare]

100 hookers

then i can dissapoint 100 people all at once

[polar dune]

They can take turn to do my house clean up

[inland grove]

[rough hare]

what if theyre male hookers?

[polar dune]

Doesn’t change the fact they have to clean my house

[cunning ruin]

The fuck you mean by that

[polar dune]

they clean the house regardless - I don’t gain anything from any other activity

[cunning ruin]

You have your priorities straight

[polar dune]

Either I clean or I pay someone

[rough hare]

[edgy pumice]

At the same time?! What the hell i only have 2 arms

[inland grove]

Yes

[rough hare]

youve got many more useable limbs if your resourceful

[edgy pumice]

Ok let me just turn my entire body into arms

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-marvel-infinity-war-avengers-multi-armform-gif-14602091

[civic badger]

shiva?

[tawdry hatch]

that's doctor strange....

[civic badger]

i mean the directors took that from shiva

[tawdry hatch]

I don't think the directors have seen Shiva do that before

since he doesn't exist

[rough hare]

Good plan

[native sundial]

Why does Dr Strange exist ?

[tawdry hatch]

because he's a cool concept

[dusk tundra]

How good is Merlin 209 for TS?

[dawn tinsel]

What are you doing in my server?

[feral coral]

Server or region

[dawn tinsel]

Region *

[feral coral]

I'm there to bully you

[dawn tinsel]

Time to bring out the 💳

[feral coral]

Aren't you already using it

[dawn tinsel]

True. Guess it’s time to max out the 💳

[cinder cargo]

Watch out, his got the 💳

[feral coral]

[viscid prawn]

What are ideal formations for ts based on who I have?

[tawdry hatch]

what on earth are those pets man, looks naked

[viscid prawn]

I’m f2p

[tawdry hatch]

si30 ur Naroko, get furn for ur bert, grab his star and e60 him, engrave that Oden

[viscid prawn]

Oh yeah I forgot to si30 him thanks

[tawdry hatch]

and haven't been focusing pets clearly, at this rate my alt has actually nearly overtaken u and it's only a couple months old (also f2p)

have u done ur engraving rewind yet? if not do mishka

[viscid prawn]

I haven’t rewinded yet

[viscid prawn]

Who should I used my resources on??

I have enough cores for liberta rn Im one more copy away from getting him to one star

[tawdry hatch]

Liberta when u get his star, Oden if u can spare them
hold the rest, Tamrus and new heroes will want engraving

[viscid prawn]

What’re pet priorities then😭

[viscid prawn]

Gotcha. So oden needs e60?

[tawdry hatch]

as for teams rem/alna, naroko/daemia/oden with winged lion is probably safe
u have bad wokes so maybe you'll have to use dims for ur second team, joan/albedo, mulan/emilia/liberta with talis

[tawdry hatch]

no :wtfisthis:
he wants like e44 or e41, do things like atk mp haste crit nodes

[tawdry hatch]

grab bait from everywhere that u can. ur pets are severely underlevelled so u can't get t100 in TS unfortunately

however u do have the right pets so it shouldn't be too bad going from here

I assume you've been grabbing cores, because a lot of ur heroes are more or less overinvested

I assume ur in region 45? one of the newer accounts perhaps

2 wokes seems strange, especially with that many e60's and that RC, and ur pets in relation to this are small

[viscid prawn]

My luck with awakened heroes has been horrible unfortunately

And right now I’m working on athalia then I’ll probably do ashem after

[viscid prawn]

How leveled do they need to be?

[tawdry hatch]

don't work on heroes, save 500 cards then get the hero instantly

[tawdry hatch]

what server are you? I can screenshot my box for comparison as a t100 player

[viscid prawn]

34 I think

[tawdry hatch]

what

[viscid prawn]

My account is like from 2021 and I quit due to horrible advice

[tawdry hatch]

oh wtf

[viscid prawn]

I recently started playing again in April of last year

[tawdry hatch]

I was completely off then, well it seems you opted to not restart last year when someone told u to so PvP is dead to u

[viscid prawn]

Rip

[tawdry hatch]

btw this is my box, less e60's (possibly less cores invested in total)

but these are my pets....

[viscid prawn]

Dang bruh tf

[unique palm]

cough p2p

[viscid prawn]

My luck is insanely horrible with pets I get one beast per 1k baits

[tawdry hatch]

I don't advise restarting here if ur not a tryhard, because ur LC, AoH, LCT, TS will all be dead to you

[tawdry hatch]

pity is like 600 bait
average is 400

[viscid prawn]

I’m definitely not getting one every 400 💀

[tawdry hatch]

I doubt ur recording them tbf

[viscid prawn]

But dang alr imma try to focus on baits

[tawdry hatch]

I thought my rates were shit on my main, and either it was a severe change in luck or physical tracking but my recorded rates are almost all above average

[tawdry hatch]

for sure, pets are my area of expertise (I'm something of a genius) so if u need help with prios or tricking them then u can ping me here

[viscid prawn]

How do u calculate that? Manually? Or is there an easy way

[tawdry hatch]

not a word from you

[viscid prawn]

Gotcha Ty

[tawdry hatch]

a little thing called excel

[unique palm]

testing slow mode too. Nvm I thought it was decreased

[viscid prawn]

😞

Alright so I don’t need to engrave Mishka at all

[tawdry hatch]

or maybe just ping me in #classic-chat where there's no slowmode actually......

[tawdry hatch]

feel free to rewind her, aside from Ainz she was the second best option for a lot of people
I personally done Lucretia, which was next best for people that didn't do Mishka

[viscid prawn]

Did she fall off??

[tawdry hatch]

she fell off so hard I think she broke my floor

[viscid prawn]

Dang at the time Mishka was one of the tanks to go for

[tawdry hatch]

my floorboards are cracked in half, and the carpet is terrible there so my chair hardly rolls over it

[fringe light]

[tawdry hatch]

oh ur talking about Mishka? I was talking about Lucretia
anyway yeah Mishka just a tower and rare CR hero now but she works at 209e00 so eh

[viscid prawn]

Oh yeah luc definitely died 💀 ppl keep telling me to keep her at e60 tho for some reason

So who do I e60 then after I rewind her

[tawdry hatch]

I can see why actually
ur account is just NC, CR, Tower and Campaign at this point, and she's decent in 2 of those 4

[tawdry hatch]

I listed the prios above ^
if ur done them then save
holding resources isn't a bad thing to do when ur at optimal stages and close to another hero for instance

I'm not a hoarder for example

[fringe light]

I need shards

[tawdry hatch]

hehehe

I have 3 targets for my shards tho kill me

Mulan, Jerome, New Woke, New Celepog (likely Vei)

[viscid prawn]

Hm

[fringe light]

I guess still not use for Malkrie? I'm holding my SG cards

[tawdry hatch]

Kaia is testing for us

and a couple others but I'm keeping my eye on Kaia

bro my WPM is killing me here, I finished typing that sentence with fricken 10 seconds left

[feral coral]

🤧

[viscid prawn]

Tamrus only needs e30 right

[tawdry hatch]

e36, haste and IS

[viscid prawn]

Alright

[tawdry hatch]

I got shafted back down to 1% earlier

[viscid prawn]

And oden first. E41

[tawdry hatch]

celowz kept bullying me

[tawdry hatch]

atk mp mp

[feral coral]

Fun

[manic jungle]

Any scramblers

[dusk tundra]

im sorry bro

[buoyant violet]

[abstract storm]

Veribad

[inland grove]

All good

[simple kernel]

waw

[trail swift]

don't hate cause i'm whalin on u

[tawdry hatch]

Bro I could 1v5 with ashem 🗿

[trail swift]

https://tenor.com/view/noela-sad-teary-eyes-sniffing-fox-girl-gif-22321696

[trail swift]

i would like to dedicate this dead af channels corpse to zappy

[restive goblet]

[polar dune]

Bro my walker is outweigh your whole roster

[feral coral]

[cinder cargo]

hey guys, which three pets should I go for past 18 for CR focus?

[real forge]

Seal owl panda

[cinder cargo]

I'm trying to decide between panda and talis

not sure which one is better

@polar dune what do you recommend

[trail swift]

polar

[tame quiver]

I sorry but his alt walker solo ur account

thats the best advice I can give

[trail swift]

bruh

[polar dune]

Moth

[cinder cargo]

[polar dune]

Panda

[cinder cargo]

actually panda over talis?

could you explain the reasoning

[edgy pumice]

No

[edgy pumice]

Radish

[trail swift]

the best skin

[real forge]

[edgy pumice]

Dead chat

[worldly belfry]

true

[copper sphinx]

wonder why

[worldly belfry]

all my friends are gone

hi kranki, no, only left os. Just came back cause bored

[edgy pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/lemon-tree-fools-garden-all-that-i-can-see-i-wonder-how-i-wonder-why-gif-16713011

[edgy pumice]

HELLO???????? 2.5 HOURS NO CHAT?

[abstract storm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/716766135596613634/1155977301964640417/ezgif-2-fd0372095f.gif

[edgy pumice]

wow look it's a nitro booster, can i have free nitro pls

[abstract storm]

Yes

[lime zinc]

Just for you bok, you can pay double the price

[edgy pumice]

[feral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/chat-is-dead-chat-dead-dear-diary-today-chat-is-dead-today-chat-is-dead-dead-chat-gif-24222927

[restive goblet]

I take a potato chip…

and eat it! (While setting my TS teams)

[tawdry hatch]

I take another one....
and eat it! (While adjusting them further)

[edgy pumice]

I TAKE ALL YOUR POTATO CHIPS AND EAT THEM WHILE LOOKING AT TS

[bronze flax]

this are some... choices

[inland grove]

Top 2% so far this is it I love ice debuff 🥹

[glad plank]

new code

[unique palm]

that cant be possible right? O.O

[bronze flax]

They're trolling

[inland grove]

Yeah code is nottemporalrift

[unique palm]

i wish

they have been generous lately

[open vortex]

That's funny 😂 yea new code for sure...

[shy ferry]

how's afk arena these days

[inland grove]

Afk arenaing

But si 40 now has ability and now it goes to si 50

[umbral orbit]

dead

[proven hearth]

this server dead for sure

[dapper lance]

look at taverns chat room

[queen crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/palla-deserto-desert-hot-gif-6014273

[proven hearth]

I mean, it’s Friday. everywhere dead

[dapper lance]

like my enemies in TS

[cinder cargo]

Top 4% so far I hate ice

[inland grove]

Dw soon after I dropped to 3% I'll be joining you soon

[polar dune]

U okay bro

[manic jungle]

any scramble rs

[unique palm]

Any skribblers

[cinder cargo]

I'm missing a lot of heroes needed for core comps

so early teams really tough for me in ice

since alyca doesn't really work

oh my WR currently 70%

climbing

[lime zinc]

Blue is so weird

[edgy pumice]

oh shit evelynn is now full mod everybody RUN

[tranquil crane]

[manic jungle]

I’ve been full mod for like 2 days

[sullen trail]

Need help with making 2 treasure hunt formations

[cinder cargo]

basically senior mod now

[tranquil crane]

I'm not gonna make specific hero recommendations cuz I haven't had to remember invest breakpoints in forever so I don't recall what key skills your heroes are missing, but I would suggest building your teams around woke passives (the SPs).

Ashemira SP wants CC and energy hate, so read through the skills of your build heroes and put them with her if they're thematic 🙂

[manic jungle]

[feral coral]

2 deers 1 moth pls game

[lime zinc]

You mean 3 Panda?

[dusk tundra]

which SI to get +40 after abel?

[feral coral]

I will play sudoku if that happens

[civic badger]

i heard they added new mv rewards

[lofty silo]

Liberta

[dusk tundra]

i went for awthalia, i think liberta is my 3rd

[lofty silo]

Mostly poop. But yeah, 20 red chests/10 epic chests

[lofty silo]

I’m holding because I don’t want to +40 if its true the ability will be at +35

[dusk tundra]

they reworking it?

[dusk tundra]

im sure they're going to compensate us the difference if they reduce the emblem cost

[lofty silo]

That is true. But not for the 36-40 you put in excess

I’d stop at the ability at first

[dusk tundra]

i mean they cant release a new skill at +40 then reduce it to +35 and leave the people that spent emblems to get +40 like that

[lofty silo]

Might do 1 reset or something

[dusk tundra]

this would piss a lot of people and whales, either they gonna let us reset all +40 or they gonna compensate the amount we used to get to +40

[lofty silo]

Whale will get to +40 at least for the massivr stats boost

And krakens are going for +50 once the epic chests appear in cash deals lol

[umbral surge]

Would u change anything? Not sure if should I take out Naroko and Jerome. Scarlet is 3f but still only 2 copies. Ive seen that Atheus op but no copies at all

also next si 30 Jerome?

[twin sandal]

Is there a place I can find best comps

[glad plank]

Look at t100 of ur region. Find one with roster similar as urs.

[twin sandal]

amazing thank you

[alpine grove]

@rich wraith are you seeing better results with joan rem rather than alna rem because it’s ice?

[rich wraith]

idk honestly, it was doing 40% in 3t but its really good now, like 70-80% range

[rich wraith]

im using this as a guideline

[alpine grove]

Oh weird I’ve literally never seen that before. I’ll try the alna seal team for 5t and try out rem/joan

[rich wraith]

yea ice has some weird comps due to the energy debuff

[true magnet]

It feels like everyone does worse in ice. But if everyone does worse in ice than wouldn't we all do the same? It's a mystery

[alpine grove]

This looks insanely cursed

[abstract storm]

Looks good

[alpine grove]

Does 000 Edwin and e+ Luci work?

[abstract storm]

...Probably not 😓

[alpine grove]

Top 50% here I come

[abstract storm]

Do you not have any replacements for Lucila?

[alpine grove]

I could do this

[rich wraith]

lol

[alpine grove]

Now that malkrie is kinda not looking super high priority are you leaning luci or vei? I have 700 pulls ready to go and idk who I want

[rich wraith]

People been saying malkries mid yea, im going for luci also

[alpine grove]

Yeah she is. I had been saving up for the new celepo and she flopped

[rich wraith]

Ikr

[alpine grove]

I can’t break t100 I came within 6 points I hate this game. Hopefully peoples t4s suck

[rich wraith]

R47 might come during/after this season so it’s gonna be easier for all of us

[restive goblet]

Albedo instead of Luci?

[alpine grove]

Still garrisoning rem/emi

[restive goblet]

oh gotcha

[rich wraith]

I’m thinking about using hero coins to triple garrison bedo

[alpine grove]

It’s so tempting to just grab her though I have 1200 reds idk what to do with

[alpine grove]

Me too

[rich wraith]

Just waiting for lab store reset so I can buy some dimblems for her +30

I wanna line her up with Luci which I’m delaying until I get her 3f

[alpine grove]

What are you taking luci to

[rich wraith]

203 for now, I don’t wanna e60 her just yet

203 is all you need for nc so

Also do you have 240s nc quest done

[alpine grove]

I can never get 240 it’s frustrating

[rich wraith]

I barely got it done this month, had to spend like 5k diamonds for attempts

[alpine grove]

Can you send your teams I’m struggling out here

[rich wraith]

Talene has to be lowest hp

[alpine grove]

That is a fat crassio

[rich wraith]

It’s merc xD, 203 will work as well

[alpine grove]

Mine is only 200

And I’ll have to merc a safiya

I can use my Linda somewhere though that’ll help

[rich wraith]

You can also merc eorin for r6, it’s the easiest one by far

[alpine grove]

I’ve been meaning to build eorin to like 203e30 as I could use him in burst and split aathalia into something else in later ts rounds

[rich wraith]

A 30960 eorin is as good as a 203 watha lol

[civic badger]

my eorin's 30930

[alpine grove]

In r47 whenever that comes out that should be plenty

[lime zinc]

Woah, I'm surprised Eorin even does that well

[tawdry hatch]

Given that most of watha comes from si30 and e60 im not surprised

[simple kernel]

he’s always been a sub for aath/thane for me

[inland kindle]

Eorin also damn good unit for invade teams u can use in rift or campaign/tower

[dim estuary]

any deputy from ad nihilum here?

Please PM me if there's any deputy from ad nih. We have something to talk about. And it's not about my application 😄

[tawdry hatch]

you'd have more luck asking in nihi server

[dim estuary]

A ye? They have one? Will try to find it tomorrow then, thank you

[tawdry hatch]

pretty sure their guilds ingame have the invite link

[candid jungle]

@polar dune is deputy there

PM him

[polar dune]

Bro i’ll slap you with my sausage

[candid jungle]

🤏

[cunning ruin]

[fresh yarrow]

⁉️

[little cairn]

It's just a sausage mate

[alpine grove]

Is Belinda just garbage in ice

[thin ermine]

yes. but just trash in general for ts as well

[polar dune]

Likely

[polar dune]

She good in burst and 0 faction no?

[thin ermine]

u think so? her wrs dropped a lot...guess gavus and wyca can kinda make her work?

[polar dune]

Or was it red

[tawdry hatch]

"good" is relative

[thin ermine]

red is burst. green is multihit

[tawdry hatch]

she's almost aways a sub 50 team, gavus does help out a decent chunk

[polar dune]

I’m not obligated but i found a very interesting interaction with her

Most kraken will catch on when its play

[alpine grove]

What investment does Edwin need to be useful in Ashem comp

[polar dune]

Rem with Abel @thin ermine

[thin ermine]

ill play around! ty for the heads up

[thin ermine]

200e00 min iirc.

[alpine grove]

Oh ok I can try that out then

[thin ermine]

[alpine grove]

Can vei be used at M 300 in r46 do you think

[polar dune]

Ya

[alpine grove]

What investment does luci need? I could get her to 300e60 or would that be dumb

[polar dune]

If you have no other prio

[thin ermine]

min is like 20330 iirc or something like that for new region use in ts. nino dragon prob knows better

[polar dune]

Yeah dont

[alpine grove]

What should I use my resources on

[tawdry hatch]

209e60 would be the best for TS
but around what farara said is really cheap min

her 9f is big
man this slowmode is terrible back to supcom

[alpine grove]

I’m just slacking so hard on poe right now it’s rough

But I have 1200 reds so that’s fun

[trail swift]

robin hood is op. carrying those shit heroes on his back

[carmine shale]

My rem team needs an ambulance asap

[mortal sentinel]

Rem is bad with Alna this TS, better Alna team is Alna, Naroko, ASafiya, Palmer and Daemia

[fair needle]

Any Asaf subs?

[polar dune]

ASaf is a hard sub

[trail swift]

i’m running that..it’s ehh. probably get better at higher ranks tho

[lime zinc]

Her best sub is settling with bad wr until you have TE to get her

[open cosmos]

Not a deputy from Ad but I'm a deputy for one of the other guilds if you want to DM me.

[dim estuary]

ty, but I need ad nih specifically

[thin ermine]

just go to nihi server and ask for ad deputy. most peeps left this server or dont lurk here

[dim estuary]

thank you, will do so

[thin ermine]

[umbral surge]

I wouldnt really want to start playing this game again after free 1900 red/white emblems lmao
New players are gonna be so fucked up

[civic badger]

yeah

the game's slowly going to hell

[unique palm]

Oh boy I feel bad for the new players that missed this the red chest wave

[carmine shale]

So, is si40 gonna make Athane meta again?

[simple kernel]

prob not

[polar dune]

No - source: i have athane 4036e100

He is not any better

[carmine shale]

Well that sucks

[lime zinc]

He's too far behind for just the SI40 to save him

[tame quiver]

+50 could work

[south mist]

Game is dying anyway, theyre not investing in new players

[alpine grove]

Does Ivan work in seal stall in ice?

[last isle]

No shields no ivan

[carmine shale]

Nobody wanna discuss maetria si40?

[queen crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/desert-tumble-weed-ghost-town-gif-11132442

[true magnet]

Ice sucks. Pass it on

[cinder cargo]

Ice sucks. Pass it on

[wise whale]

ice sucks. pass it on

[carmine shale]

Ice sucks. Pass it on

[astral hatch]

Ice sucks. Pass it on.

[trail swift]

slowly

[true magnet]

I had an effect on the world

[cinder cargo]

Can someone help me with ice TS

I'm literally getting 4%

No asaf, awthalia, maetria, olgath sucks

[lime zinc]

Shouldn't Gavus be good in Blue, I thought you built him

[cinder cargo]

He's pretty good

Solid 23%

Gotta love ice

Those would usually be 70% WR comps

Ice makes me want to quit

[lime zinc]

Well you are in a bad TS region, you prob won't end at 4% anyway

[cinder cargo]

I dropped from 2% to 4%

Still dropping

[lime zinc]

I've gone from 6% to 2% then to 4% in a single round

[cinder cargo]

I literally don't know what to run

Do I just run thoran stall

Why does this debuff suck so much

Who came up with it

I have beef with them now

[lime zinc]

What's your Remjob wr at? Alna-less is mostly an AwSaf comp

[cinder cargo]

Oh

My Alna rem was like 45% day 2

[lime zinc]

I don't think it works without Alna unless you have AwSaf there or you're in a baby region

[cinder cargo]

Oh OK

Dunno what to do with the rest of my heroes

I'm just completely lost

On a scale of 1-10, how crappy is this comp

[lime zinc]

Blue is pretty weird

[cinder cargo]

I hate ice

All the comps use heroes I don't have

[lime zinc]

It's like, barely passable at 6 or 7T

[cinder cargo]

Not even sets of comps, straight up just every comp uses heroes I don't have

[cinder cargo]

Thank you for your words of encouragement

[lime zinc]

That's me and every TS + every NC + every CR

[lime zinc]

Mulan is pretty ass in Blue outside of just stalling around for Seal
Dims really relies on having extra oomph to not be mediocre

[cinder cargo]

Best strat is quit competitive and go cram in a corner by yourself

[cinder cargo]

So... Awthalia

Which I don't even have a single copy of

This is doomed

[lime zinc]

Cramming is simping for campaign

[cinder cargo]

campaign is the best mode in the game

minimal discrimination between spending ranges

no sense of hopelessness

you even get a new background every once in a while

[lime zinc]

Wdym, it has an innate sense of hopelessness from how pointless it is by nature

[cinder cargo]

hey a number goes up on your screen

that's pretty worth

[lime zinc]

[trail swift]

just out-last all the people quitting and you'll get into t100 by attrition

[umbral orbit]

literally me

[civic badger]

same

[simple kernel]

i wonder what the bell curve is of how much people spend relative to how long they play

like obviously its generally upward trending but i wonder if theres like a $100-10,000 range where fomo and sunk cost traps lose their grip vs 100k+

[tawny flame]

got malkrie to L but thinking about stopping building her considering she doesnt seem all that good, should i cut my losses or keep building?

[simple kernel]

shes not really important at all, prob dont build celehypos before knowing if you should build em

i mean if you think shes cute and just wanna have her go all in

[tawny flame]

its been a hwile since last cele hypo turned out not meta

so cant really blame me for expecting this one will prob at least be somewhat useable

[simple kernel]

yes i can

[edgy pumice]

yes we can

[tawny flame]

[trail swift]

i'm glad, maybe i can finally build olgath

[polar dune]

No you wont

[trail swift]

y

[polar dune]

Trust me , by the time you build olgath. Next great dps hypo will be out

Thats why a few people have zikis bc he was olgath before olgath

[trail swift]

that kinda sux. i have 3 copies and 5f :Q

all the copies were free tho

[polar dune]

[trail swift]

i could also build cruke... seems like the same exact situation tho

[feral coral]

2 more deers, pls game be nice

[civic badger]

whose lvl 18 is better talismane or owl?

[tawdry hatch]

owl for u

[civic badger]

serious question

[thin ermine]

serious answer. owl for u (was for me as well)

[tawdry hatch]

yeah and my answer was serious as well.....
owl is better for CR (for older regions) and Talis better for TS (but ur region is far too old to value Talis higher)

[edgy pumice]

There’s an emoji limit I can’t send the MS copypasta here

[copper yacht]

big money

[lime zinc]

Yw

[umbral surge]

Im curious when they will create new region

[edgy pumice]

now

[astral hatch]

Nice

[cinder cargo]

Rem is just cooked without asaf in ice huh

[inland kindle]

Looks like it

[cinder cargo]

I tried with alna, wihtout alna, emi flex in, all failed

I guess I'l just take my 2% then

[inland kindle]

Or the casual dim line up

Got at least 64% wr
(Why the hell has this channel 10sec downtime...)

[terse heart]

Dead game dead chat

[inland kindle]

Hmm

[cinder cargo]

hmm I wonder why

[inland kindle]

[shy ibex]

yay top 50

[astral hatch]

Try Joan

[cinder cargo]

My Joan is stuck in dims

[astral hatch]

[cinder cargo]

Let's go lv 5 island

Or isle

What even is an isle

So an island

[dusk tundra]

hello

[trail swift]

konichiwa

[dusk tundra]

i dont speak spanish

[edgy pumice]

woof woof

[tawdry hatch]

ohayo

[obtuse mauve]

Hello master bok, what do you think of the recently leaked alucius skills?

[edgy pumice]

haven't seen it

[lime zinc]

woof woof

[edgy pumice]

arf arf arf

[trail swift]

mooo

[terse heart]

dead game

[trail swift]

dead game dead server dead channel

[lime zinc]

Zoo game

[obtuse mauve]

Squeak squeak

No mention of lavatune I'm sg guide. Dead guides

[trail swift]

lavatune is higgs from death stranding 2 🤔

[obtuse mauve]

Meanwhile, izold still in second prio group of gbs

[trail swift]

you might say... the guide izold (laugh track)

[obtuse mauve]

🥁

[obtuse mauve]

Actually third, but still wrong. He's paper weight these days

[tawdry hatch]

in #classic-questions he's too far down the line, and in #faq-resources that channels just dead

[lime zinc]

People make stupidly long SG guides that go all the way to Olgath, surely Lava being like maybe 3rd or so isn't that far down

[trail swift]

i'm kinda at the olgath/cruke/etc level of sg and not sure :q

rly wanted olgath for ashem in TS but seems likely a hypocele that blows him outta the water is likely sometime soon

i said likely twice

[true magnet]

Omfg

[trail swift]

rip

[native sundial]

Are you guys bored of afk arena or is it just me

[umbral orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e4INH1yr9c&ab_channel=RioRomeo

[true magnet]

I still get lots out of it. Frankly like it more than I used to since I actually have heros and stuff that let me do well

[umbral orbit]

this how it feels every time i open the game

[queen crystal]

wait you guys still play

[dark kraken]

whoo guys im done with pets!!!!

[queen crystal]

niceeeee best feeling

[dark kraken]

now time to focus red chests again

[tawdry hatch]

I'm still reso 9 :despair:

[queen crystal]

takes a massive weight off your shoulders at least

[dark kraken]

welll

i have a lot of e60 to do as f2p i need to +40 wisely and my furn and my tree isnt maxed

[queen crystal]

[lofty silo]

Grats!!

[cinder cargo]

nice!

[polar dune]

wish i can be done with pet as well

[turbid scroll]

Next month reso 36

[lofty silo]

@queen crystal losing to Silas

[queen crystal]

stop slapping me with your massive trunk

[lofty silo]

You did a lot of dmg, but Simona prevailed

Ya also beat me @queen crystal

[queen crystal]

damn sim dishing out dmg

[lofty silo]

Weird fight. That athane

[queen crystal]

[wise harbor]

I think I pushed into top 50 for first time

[queen crystal]

have you spent much on juice?

or is that just from hard focusing it from events etc

[lofty silo]

Not at big level but the classic 1$ deal in events. And I focused on juice since s4 AE up to bait release

[queen crystal]

[turbid scroll]

Anyway ice sucks

[queen crystal]

it’s not that bad

[tawdry hatch]

ice is nice~

[restive goblet]

Somehow ice is my best buff

even though wutus is basically useless

[glad plank]

can't wait to swap wutus

[restive goblet]

Idk if I should swap thane or Brutus if we ever get one

[glad plank]

it'll be a riot if they don't do it for their anniversary event again , considering all the powercreep they've introduced

[restive goblet]

Did it swap all the invests and everything too? I didn’t swap anything the first time

[glad plank]

yup swaps everythings

[queen crystal]

that was the only anniversary they’ve done it, it’s not really guaranteed

[glad plank]

yeah, just hopium

[restive goblet]

They’ll give us double dims for the anniversary instead

[queen crystal]

double woke again as a special treat surely

[true magnet]

thnx for asaf btw, even though not entirely sure she's the merc Ill need for CR

[queen crystal]

np good to have options

[true magnet]

She's my most common CR merc for sure

[queen crystal]

got baden?

[true magnet]

ye

[wise whale]

krofty

[lime zinc]

She was my most common CR merc before I built her myself

[real forge]

[polar dune]

Good work

[trail swift]

5.5 hours since last post, channel officially dead. mods pls delete

[dark kraken]

how does this happen 12B to 2B

[lime zinc]

Some rounds can randomly die at the start and fail like that

[native sundial]

Who is rosa following ?

[lime zinc]

[trail swift]

herself

[native sundial]

Rem i suppose

[feral coral]

Ofc rem

[cinder cargo]

evil nem is like that yeah

[proven vault]

@feral coral I forgot about engraving reset, and it ends tonight.
You said the best choice would be Lucretia for me right ?

[feral coral]

Yup

[turbid scroll]

So you're the reason they put a 10 days enrollment timer on mystic starzone

[proven vault]

Yeah I told them to wait until I get back from holidays

[umbral surge]

Would you still recommend to invest into raku? Ch34

[rough hare]

nah raku falls off

[native sundial]

Si30 Rem or Ezio ?

[little cairn]

Rem for stats

[fringe light]

Ezio works 209

[unique palm]

It feels like raku fell off the meta in the blink of an eye — wth happened

Normally it takes the community a while to recognize an outdated piece of advice but this time it felt real fast

[true magnet]

It wasnt really that fast I dont think. Just more and more people finishing Liberta and new players SGing him first so Raku isnt good in campaign. And I never saw much success with him in TS. except he was ok in ice for a bit iirc

[restive goblet]

Raku used to be in CR a bit and he was useable in TS in newer regions for a bit

but now he’s pretty terrible for TS and not in cr much at all

And people don’t care about campaign anymore, which is the main reason why people built him in the first place

[unique palm]

Maybe it’s the cr meta changing then

[true magnet]

yeah CR def left him behind

[surreal stream]

Hey guys can I get some help with engraving rewind pls?
I'm trying to decide between rewinding e4x Ainz (1650 cores) or e60 Mishka (4.5k cores), not really sure which to go for. I still use Mishka in quite a few places tbh but it's more than double the cores

[glad plank]

Ainz, he is not used anywhere.

[surreal stream]

Yeah, thats fair

He really isnt anymore lol. Thanks

[light palm]

Does anyone have a really good budget Ashemira team without Simona. Currently my Ashemira team is struggling

[lime zinc]

Well Raku has been like that for over a year now so

[unique palm]

Hmm fair. Everyone was recommending it when I started 3months ago. Guess there was still a delay before the meta shift

[lofty silo]

SI40 might help Raku make a come back

[polar dune]

Yeah no

[lime zinc]

As 4F dmg goes, he's still one of the best. It's just that 4F are dogshit for dmg

[polar dune]

If you hit a dummy he is the best, problem with turret hero.

[trail swift]

probably would to some degree but it's like..massive opportunity cost to si40 him so he can still be worse than the actual meta heroes who would have used those SI chests better

[fair needle]

For Budget versions, she works well with likes of Cruke,Robin hood,Ivan,Oden,Ferael and probably Melusina for this TS

[manic jungle]

any scramblers

[true magnet]

Im scramblin and im mad because ice is so wildly inconsistent for me

[vestal matrix]

Can someone help me out and figure out how to improve my teams?

I have ashemira as well but I usually put her with lucretia

[tawdry hatch]

Joan in Rem, Alna instead of 2lene in stall, Mulan in dims

[vestal matrix]

Thanks!

[polar dune]

Some weird pvp sht

[feral coral]

Another panda I'm dying. 1 DEER PLS

[trail swift]

what’s the optimal red/new chest use pattern again

[tawny igloo]

this?

[trail swift]

ye thanks

[civic badger]

too many charts in the game

[umbral surge]

How big prio is emi si30?

[tawdry hatch]

moderate

[rough hare]

medium, idk what the prio is f2p tho, theres defo higher prio first

[dusk tundra]

Are these good teams ?

Or should I switch some around doing Alr top100 in r46 but if there’s anything I can do better

[inland kindle]

Still wondering why u not ask in our discord

[little cairn]

He has, just asking for more opinions obviously.

[inland kindle]

Zer0s isn't enough ig

[little cairn]

And tbf we have you there so people get confused

[inland kindle]

[dusk tundra]

More opinions

[little cairn]

Sadly ts chat dead here now that the main group left

[dusk tundra]

There are more whales in here to

[inland kindle]

This chat is dead cuz time shit

[icy surge]

Nah, it's because the event is shit 🤣🤣

[umbral surge]

Yeah I know, I'm just thinking what do I have left from basic heroes, got ashem, berta, Rowan, jerome, naroko, ivan.
Grez is low prio until endgame, oden felt off, raku dead, other celehypo far away.

Right now next can be silas (not sure about how prio he is now) if I ascend him before lady simoa but I think I do her.
Thoran is optional and I dont really want to do him.

Just i dont really have in mind other high prio heroes to si30

[civic badger]

oden's still used in camp

[umbral orbit]

Oden will still be used. He has somewhat of a unique skills

[umbral orbit]

Did you make these teams yourself or some whale helped u?

If someone else gave u the ok, I probs won’t touch it

I would take out alyca, she will mess up your team more then it helps u but that’s just my opinion

Also potentially spread out your teams so ur 6th team ain’t that sus, but if ur high ranked in TS, u do u

[dusk tundra]

Yes but she want more opinions yk what I mean

[dusk tundra]

And number 6 is random bs lol

[little cairn]

Alyca helps a lot there with making enemies target mulan and joan instead of rem also gives energy to rem

[umbral orbit]

Too much brain effort for actual teams cuz I don’t know what her box is. but take out Emi, make dims team, and make Abel standard. I would put alyca with weakest team. Move narako out to Awthalia. Make team 6 ashem plus Gb or something and ur Bert luci team should still shred with any other support there

[little cairn]

But yeah sixth team is mostly a problem of not having enough heroes to make a solid team and switching others is mostly a bigger downside in %

[umbral orbit]

That’s if she is 9f it’s 0f….

[little cairn]

Didn't see that still 1 point stands

so same thing as before not enough other good heroes to change it

[umbral orbit]

It just messes up the comp from what I seen but I just know it will mess up comps. Testing and watching fights is required

[little cairn]

Well me myself cant answer on that as I don't have alyca but I know others that used the setup
Edit: but they did have 9f

man this slowmode is annoying

[umbral orbit]

All the buffs come from the furn. They are meat sheilds without it

[dusk tundra]

These are rates

[little cairn]

Who are meat shields? joan and mulan will be the ones getting attacked

[umbral orbit]

Joan is 200, she is a meat shield either way

[little cairn]

Gleem don't you have rock lizard

Spider is not a great pet for abel

[umbral orbit]

Is this r46?

[dusk tundra]

Yes

[umbral orbit]

Fox is also another alternative

[dusk tundra]

Who to put instead of spoofer

[little cairn]

yeah fox is ok a bit worse in ice but yeah

Panda or rock is good also but 9 / 12 is needed

[umbral orbit]

Hmmm actually ur right I was thinking rcl goes with lib but that team is hella over stacked

[little cairn]

Panda seems to be used a lot in abel now but new pet so prob only lvl 6

[umbral orbit]

Tell whoever account this is, look at leaderboard and try to find any alyca comps without 9f working

[little cairn]

Well it's gleems

[dusk tundra]

Ok I’ll look at them

[umbral orbit]

Ahh I see

Also u could put Rosa in Abel, I have no clue what 9f does outside of cr but it should work?

[little cairn]

rosa is very meh in ice

[dusk tundra]

Idk what the differences are in the 3 choices so I just pick wtv each season

[little cairn]

Well ice makes gives all heroes early 90%dr slowly going down and halves energy recovery and shields don't work

[umbral orbit]

U have odd investments, its kinda hard to know whether or not it works

[little cairn]

He likes to over-invest some x)

Rowan is a weird one tho

[umbral orbit]

Some furn is just not there

[little cairn]

yeah well it's r46 tho. New acc

He's a bit of a dolphin is all

Furn is a bit harder to whale on

[umbral orbit]

Rowan 9f, Rosa 9f, no furn on alna, alyca

[little cairn]

yeah early things prob

[umbral orbit]

I feel like someone shoulda stoped him early on tho but no one did, also the team building is a bit odd

[dusk tundra]

9f Rowan was luck

And Rosa 9f was luck

[little cairn]

rowan doesn't even need furn

3f is nice but not needed

[dusk tundra]

Both hero’s I want summoning for it just Happened

[little cairn]

Yeah I get it

[dusk tundra]

And Alan and Alyca are new so haven’t got nun for them yet

[cinder cargo]

Atheus op

[little cairn]

He's tanky for sure

[cinder cargo]

200 investment at 500 deficit

[little cairn]

Will he be used in stall comps?

[cinder cargo]

Once it uploads

[cinder cargo]

Maybe, or ashem

[umbral orbit]

Consider swapping Rowan with someone if you can’t keep up with powercfeep

[umbral surge]

Thats true but between prio and usable there is huge gap imo. Especially si30 gives just dmg

[cinder cargo]

Like what is that survivability

[little cairn]

Well he does have like a quadruple immunity in hits or something on his third skill and aoe cc

and tons of hp recovery

something 5% hp on woodshield use

Would not surprise me if he became meta in seal team

[vestal matrix]

Is there anything that can be done for my dims team? Its hurtin’

[little cairn]

First thing that can be done is putting mulan in middle for early cc

her dash hitting 3 instead of 1

dmg is probably biggest issue there

what do you have left?

[vestal matrix]

These are the other teams plus the one I’m slotting in at rank up

I have most non-awakened meta heroes minus lavatune as well

[true magnet]

anyone else find that the TS team building area is that slowest running thing in the game?

[little cairn]

You have farael oden or simona for team 5?

Robin also

Like Vei, ashem front and Lib, Simona, Robin back

Farael is good in ice also can sub one

[vestal matrix]

I have ferael and oden, no simoner

[little cairn]

Invested?

[vestal matrix]

Oden 309e60, ferael 209

Robin is just +20

[little cairn]

Farael is prob better

[vestal matrix]

[little cairn]

He gets time to stack up a lot in ice

[vestal matrix]

Is spoder a good pet for that team? I’m not really sure what spoder is good at

[little cairn]

Helps in health loss dmg

Liberta only being health loss

So spider is fine

third choice usually, first being owl then Rock lizard then spooder

Owl and rock are good in other teams also tho

LvLs matters also

@vestal matrix Robin is good if you wanna slowly build him up to 30933 haste

Like buying dim emblems in lab shop

[true magnet]

Does Robin really want si30?

[little cairn]

It's good

[true magnet]

I was under the impression that 20 was good for him

[little cairn]

Sure it's good but dims are so easy to get si up on thx to lab coins

and he's very good in ashem team in ts

Like he's not highest prio dim to get si30 on but he's a fine option for ts

That's why I said slowly, with ts being one of the best modes for resources

[vestal matrix]

Worth doing robin +30 before emilia +40? Her +40 looks stupid good for pvp

[little cairn]

I would not si 40 emi yet

Like lib, ashem, abel just for stats alone are higher prio for me

[vestal matrix]

But emi +40 you can do with dim emblems from lab store

[little cairn]

Yeah sure but 50 extra energy loss per second while frozen is ok at most in my eyes.

When it comes to dims alone rem for stats, bedo for extra team stats.

[true magnet]

Any si 40 who isn't a carry is pretty dangerous imo

[vestal matrix]

Hmmm fair. I considered rem’s si40 to be pretty win-more, as in it only helps if you were already going to win

[little cairn]

Eh base stats are big

Helps actually get to the win

Difference is like double

Si31 - 40 is more stats than si1 - 30

[vestal matrix]

Wow, okay.

[umbral surge]

Silas or simona to ascend? Ashemira is A

[little cairn]

Simona

She's top 3 gb hero

[umbral surge]

Okey, thanks.
How prio is her si30? And furnitures

[little cairn]

Si30 is very good quite high prio if you have ashem

For furn her 3 is high prio, 9 is good but not needed to function.

[umbral surge]

I consider her A as I need 1 more copy and new woke is out soon. Would u consider that's good time or there are higher priorities?

[little cairn]

Her si 30 is worth it here

You already got the ones needed for your built heroes

She wants engravings also but lib, ashem, palmer have higher prio there

Probably naroko also

Hows your furn wishlist?

Rem, ivan, lib, emi, ashem, jerome, naroko, palmer, simona, last one up to you

Raine 3f is nice to have

[woeful plume]

Hi Mercy

[little cairn]

Elo

[umbral orbit]

I would hold of si40 anyone for a long long time until a clear guide comes out

[little cairn]

For newer players yep

Me competing in ts I just went with the carries that are unlikely to fall off any time soon

This is if you are already competing at quite a high spot

Otherwise hold

[edgy pumice]

HODL

[umbral orbit]

Majority consensus is to hold stats aren’t worth it

[edgy pumice]

Hold forever, never spend any resources because it isn’t worth it

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[little cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/crycat-crying-cat-crying-cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-ok-gif-22851318

[restive goblet]

They increased the stack size for everything a patch or two ago

[little cairn]

So that mean they are increasing the rate we get stuff right right ???

[lime zinc]

[turbid scroll]

Damn, i thought it actually stopped at 999

[restive goblet]

The diamond chests still do but idk what the new max is for dust/gold/exp

[umbral surge]

+9 cards. 4 ashem, 1 mulan, 3 scarlet (she is dead to me, just 2 copies) in storeroom

[little cairn]

Ashem wants 9f, simona wants 3 at least

Mulan wants 9f

[umbral surge]

Yeah, cards are prepared for ashem. Not sure if its worth to use any other yet

[little cairn]

Wait and see

[umbral surge]

Isnt emi 9f optional?

[lime zinc]

Emi 9F is just for CR & as progress towards IS dupes

[cinder cargo]

[light palm]

Guys is Trishea used in TS? if not then what is optimal investment for her to be used elsewhere like Cursed Realm

[true magnet]

She is not in PvP at all, she wants 309e60 ideally

[lime zinc]

[vagrant prawn]

[thin ermine]

u can somewhat use her in ts is ur missing units like olgath/simona to pair w. ashem. her optimal investment is pretty much 30960 but can be used at 30330

[polar dune]

Modern day Tarnos - alot of utility and damage but not master of any

[thin ermine]

^^^

[tawdry hatch]

yes, however only in newer regions as a substitute for AShem comps~

she's primarily a CR/NC unit, and needs 309e30, 309e60 ideal

I think she can work in NC at 303e30, less RNG for Morass with a smaller trish~

[austere patio]

can someone arrange TS teams for me

[tawdry hatch]

something like this idk what r45 uses

[austere patio]

[tawdry hatch]

swap ivan and trish for simona and ferael btw~

[austere patio]

oghei thanku

[tawdry hatch]

I forgot to and my ranked dropped

[cinder cargo]

I use her in ashem

she's pretty good there

but then so many things are pretty good in ashem so idk

[true magnet]

hm honestly havent seen her in PvP

[tawdry hatch]

same, but I think a built Simona is better

[cinder cargo]

simona is for sure better yeah

[true magnet]

but if she fits

[cinder cargo]

but like imagine having a built simona

[true magnet]

I cant imagine when I will have the time for that lol

[cinder cargo]

we need one this CR

[cinder cargo]

CR is so doomed

[tawdry hatch]

oh wtf forgot there was slowmode here

[polar dune]

??

[true magnet]

also mr campaign main I beat 46-40

[true magnet]

is that ice? doesnt Ivan suck for you there

[cinder cargo]

I'm almost done with 61

the singles are starting to get brutal

[true magnet]

I am hard capped once again

[cinder cargo]

powercap used to be so low that you can just run some random BS go comp and win

but after the ch60-61 accelerator enemies feel incredibly tanky now

[polar dune]

Bro wtf else were you building

[cinder cargo]

so not having daemia/lava/ivan makes abel feel very pool noodly

[abstract storm]

Isn't JD a low spender/f2p? 🫣

[cinder cargo]

but at the same time those three units won't be anywhere near built enough to be in top 5 power

[tawdry hatch]

hush I forgot to change it back

[cinder cargo]

atheus sir

[polar dune]

Bro building walker at this point

[cinder cargo]

though maybe I should have built simona first

[abstract storm]

LOL

[polar dune]

Thats sad

[abstract storm]

Couldn't you have HCP'd both? Simona has been out for a while now

[polar dune]

No wonder you arent t100

[cinder cargo]

no I had to use both rounds of HCP for atheus

I think I have three left over

but not enough to build simona

[abstract storm]

Ah

[cinder cargo]

f2ps only get 6 hcps per month

[abstract storm]

Ohhhh that makes more sense

[polar dune]

Jd bro on god this btch need zero investment

[abstract storm]

Wait no, we only get 7 per month, hasn't Simona been out for over 2 months?

[cinder cargo]

yeah I love that about him as well

[polar dune]

U get 6 , jd just doesn’t lookmax so hes a bit spas

[cinder cargo]

nah her ship is still here

I'm pretty sure

[abstract storm]

[polar dune]

Before was vikab btw , jd on some good sht

She hasn’t been in ship for 3 weeks lil bro

[cinder cargo]

oh

well even more reason to not rush to build

[polar dune]

Do you just not hold every 4f card you get when you sg

[cinder cargo]

I'm holding a bunch of cards

waiting for my wishlist to populate with heroes to star before pulling

[polar dune]

Yeah u get 1-3 copy easy

[cinder cargo]

recent pulls have been too saturated with random junk

I've got like 450 scrolls too

[polar dune]

huh

[cinder cargo]

I did actually get 1 copy of atheus

which was pretty cool

other than that I haven't sged in a while, so no excess of cards

[polar dune]

Yeah i got none and mine is still 4*

How is it 4* actually

i dont remember

[weak cobalt]

i kinda need help for teams now that im about to reach 5k points

forgot to add this

or dods my box not have enough units built

[trail swift]

should i si30 my rosa 🤔

[fair needle]

No imo

Considering we need them reds to SI 40 a lot of meta heroes

[civic badger]

hopefully baits totems and silver chests more easily

[simple kernel]

ya know just before they announced si40-50 i was talking about having no real exciting si30's left to do at all

[civic badger]

🐳

[weak cobalt]

help?

im already at 5k points and my wr is dropping below 50%

[rough hare]

your box has nothing people can help with tbh, you need to throw a random team together of 5 units and see what happens

[civic badger]

@weak cobalt focus on building ur heroes also

[weak cobalt]

ayt thanks, is there a list of heroes that are good in TS?

or is it too much season specific?

[tawdry hatch]

just generally meta heroes

[tame quiver]

yh dont do things like that

[tawdry hatch]

we could only tell u which heroes are bad in specific modifiers

like ivan is bad in Ice, Albedo is bad in fog, scarlet is bad in everything except fire

[dusk tundra]

hello

[zenith spire]

Hi

[upper nexus]

Does AShem need e60 or is e44 optimal?

[tawdry hatch]

e60

all wokes except abel are e60
screw this slowmode

[upper nexus]

I saw a discussion saying e60 is luxury on ashem

[rough hare]

E80 luxury, e60 mandatory

[glad plank]

uhhh e60 is not mandatory at all

[tawdry hatch]

e60 isn't a need, it's just good on her
and 309e44 ashem looks derpy

[upper nexus]

But e60 is good on anyone....

I can stop at e44 ashem and get a head start saving for scarlet/grez/oden engravings. Not sure what to do.

[edgy pumice]

No it’s not, resources are finite

[upper nexus]

Well, that's my point

[mossy bridge]

na, ashem e60 over those

with collections and the new si bullshit the game is becoming a bit more "centralizing" on less carries

[cinder cargo]

If you want fully optimize progression, it's true that a lot of e60s for awakened heroes aren't actually needed

But people just 309e60 anyways because they are awakened heroes

[edgy pumice]

wrong

[upper nexus]

Sounds like I could go either way. Thanks for the answers everyone.

[umbral orbit]

Is lava a 30960 hero or can I just leave him at 4x

[queen crystal]

Wants 60

[cinder cargo]

Lava e60 is the most op e60 in the game

Not even one of

[edgy pumice]

wrong

[cinder cargo]

The most

[true magnet]

More than Bert?

[cinder cargo]

Imo yes

[edgy pumice]

wrong

[cinder cargo]

It's just dumb tbh

What do you gives all allies permanent +80 haste 10 seconds into the battle

Like Who balanced that

To put into perspective

Lyca gives 35

Twins ult gives 80

[cinder cargo]

Combined with his stage energy passive

It's actually over

[cinder cargo]

Woah

Nice palmer collection

[queen crystal]

yeah I recently e60 lava and difference is night and day

[true magnet]

On a similar note if AShem the best 9f in the game? Felt like she big very little for me until I got it

[lime zinc]

It's big but probably not the number 1 best

But it's largely arbitrary and pointless to find that anyway

[true magnet]

Yeah I just find it interesting to think about. Even though it's not gonna change much

[lime zinc]

I just meant like, there's a lot of different ways to evaluate strength

[cinder cargo]

Her 9f is very good yeah

It honestly makes me want to Yolo Arthur 40

[lofty silo]

That is good for palmer

[true magnet]

Yeah. Like Alna. She doesn't really do anything without it but is it the strongest just on its own merit.

[edgy pumice]

I feel like this should go on Liberta instead of ASafiya

[cinder cargo]

[lofty silo]

That one is cute

[lime zinc]

I still don't have anything over 3 Ms

[edgy pumice]

have u been using 3 blues

[lime zinc]

Yeah

[edgy pumice]

so have i.......... maybe it's your choices when they give u the special shit at the end of each level
i always pick the highest tier to upgrade even if it's smth useful that i can use
and i also always pick the 3 of the highest tiers if available to combine even if they're all useless
i also always pick the highest tier to copy even if it's useless

[lime zinc]

Yeah I do that too

It's just rng in the end, the runs I did this week had a lot of 0 M

I even almost had a run with 0 L (and ofc you can't fail when using sweep)

[edgy pumice]

i have 3 colls with 4/5 Ms
and i've sold all the 0 L colls but i've gotten like 2/3 of those

[cinder cargo]

Have tried getting more than 3Ms