treasure-scramble

[lime zinc]

The regions would be fine if the rank reqs weren't so strict

[solemn sage]

yes some regions are much harder than others

but you're still mostly competing with similar age accounts

[lime zinc]

I'll prob get 16% CR before I can get like 26% NC

[solemn sage]

that's not really a region issue though

just an issue of NC difficulty being very weird

[lime zinc]

Well, just a comparison

NC has its issues but the rank diffs being comparatively smaller makes it relatively less of an issue

[wise whale]

Hi frens

[sour jay]

someone in r4 would be better off competing in r3, an older region

idk what's going wrong there

[polar dune]

r3 is still pretty hard

[solemn sage]

yeah that's because of the all the whales that joined the game around R3/R4 regions

[lime zinc]

R3 would only be a little bit easier than R4, but not that diff at top ranks

[solemn sage]

meanwhile my R1 NC rank is about the same as my R1 CR rank despite NC having way bigger regions

[lime zinc]

My CR region rank is usually around like 220 ish

[solemn sage]

R2 and R3 are about the same

[cinder cargo]

that's good

[solemn sage]

R4 is hardest

[cinder cargo]

not biased in anyway trust

[solemn sage]

don't think I'm holding top 50 this time

[cinder cargo]

ye honestly I'm super down for top 1% if it was like 3 TGs

just make it more like CR

[sour jay]

Huge jump to t100 then tiny step to t50 reward, it's strange

[cinder cargo]

it's actually pretty big steps to t50 too

[solemn sage]

yeah the reward brackets in TS are rough

T50 T4 is significant

[sour jay]

I mean the extra reward is a small step, it's t4 instead of t3 then like 1 more time card and sg

[cinder cargo]

reward brakcets in TS basically call out low spenders for being poor

[cinder cargo]

isn't it 2 more?

or was that t50 to t20

[sour jay]

I think it's one

Either way doesn't motivate me to spend for lol

[solid monolith]

haha poor

[cinder cargo]

I feel like that's the ironic thing about TS

[lime zinc]

Make it 3 for 1%, 2 for 2% 1 for 3%

[sour jay]

I'm solidly t100 verging on t50 but the only way I get significantly more rewards is t20. I'd have to spend thousands for that, like vip 15 min

[cinder cargo]

people who actually get top 100 already have enough TGs to build every woke

[sour jay]

Better than some region where vip 15 is min for t100

[cinder cargo]

the people who need it can't get it

[lime zinc]

Or even like 3 for 1-2%, 2 for 3-4%, 1 for 5-6%

[cinder cargo]

^

then falling out wouldn't feel as bad

[sour jay]

Yeah that would be a good change

[cinder cargo]

the drop from 5 to 0 is actually so tough

[lime zinc]

The value jump is so insane

[cinder cargo]

it

it's like +8000 diamonds in value or something

[solemn sage]

#classic-suggestions message

[sour jay]

Already passed

So Lilith doesn't give a shit

[lime zinc]

It's probably bad on purpose

[cinder cargo]

ha get rekt I have more party emotes than you

[solemn sage]

one person disliked yours

nobody disliked mine

[cinder cargo]

that person is cringe

[solemn sage]

infinite more dislikes

[cinder cargo]

your suggestion is better

mine was just me raging about dropping out of t100 after they increased rewards lmao

[sour jay]

It's only 100% more, the bot dislikes it too

Bots are people too

[cinder cargo]

ok but have they passed the turing test

[solemn sage]

first up/downvote doesn't count it's just there so there's buttons for people to click

[cinder cargo]

so we didn't ask for excuses

[sour jay]

No the bot just can't decide his opinion on either

[cinder cargo]

wow this gif is nice for questions lol

[lime zinc]

Best change for both CR & TS would be reworking rewards to be some composite of global & regional ranks (idk how you'd do a global TS rank though, just gauging it off total elo prob wouldn't work)

[cinder cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/check-the-pins-kowalski-penguin-gif-20219688

[cinder cargo]

just measure vip points amount on a rank

or have everyone be in the same pool

[tiny lily]

Cut out the middle man and merge all servers and massively buff rewards

[cinder cargo]

but then split rewards regionally, similar to CR

[tiny lily]

[cinder cargo]

the problem is lilith servers literally can't handle that

[edgy pumice]

delete all game modes and rewards

[cinder cargo]

they'd have to have like 50 different paths

which like, do you really want that

[solemn sage]

Expand the leaderboards so we have top 200, top 500, top 1k rewards

[tiny lily]

Instead of paths why not just randomly assign people

[lime zinc]

Honestly, just make a 'fabled' for TS that you can access after reaching top X rank the first time

[solemn sage]

start %s after that

[cinder cargo]

that works too

[cinder cargo]

yes make fabled for every game mode

you know CR used to be like that

being in CR at all was kind of a fabled experience

[lime zinc]

CR used to not be accessible by most people yeah

Back when TR was the only routine mode

[cinder cargo]

the tradeoff was crammers got absolute trash ranks

I think I was averaging like 26-35%

[lime zinc]

Actually fabled TS would need some other kind of req to get in, if it was just ranks then everyone would slowly get pushed there over time
Or it'd have to have some mechanic that pushed X amount of people out of it

[tender arch]

can i see some like whale type trift teams?

[cinder cargo]

just do current FR system

but like x5 the people or something

RC got shafted a little too hard I think

[lime zinc]

Ig that'd be fine

[cinder cargo]

should be somewhat relevant

I think martial was a good balance

[solemn sage]

I just chucked together these for 140 autobattle push

[cinder cargo]

shouldn't be like you can literally cram your way into top 100, but older players should rank slightly higher because of their RC

[tender arch]

oof. thats too whaley

[solemn sage]

not at all optimal but optimized 5 teams are still not figured out for new heroes

[cinder cargo]

oh I can almost copy that

dang I'm such a whale

[tender arch]

hmm

[cinder cargo]

btw did you guys see new gb damage in CR

it's actually trash

[lime zinc]

I think it'd be fine to make a fabled TS with something like 3 reward tiers for 30% 60% 100% that are comparable or slightly better than current top TS

[cinder cargo]

like wow that sucks

[solemn sage]

it's test server they never figure out the right CR teams

[cinder cargo]

I mean it was in grouped with ashem

[lime zinc]

Simona has a big multiplier on normals but I didn't really think she'd deal much dmg herself, seems more like a debuffer/energy supp

[cinder cargo]

that's about as good as you can expect for an AoE damage main

[solemn sage]

She has 40% ally magic damage increase and 30 MR debuff

[cinder cargo]

chinese server was hyping simona to be strong AoE dps based off her bell ring skill

[solemn sage]

she'll make abel or someone do even more

[cinder cargo]

I see

[lime zinc]

The 40% magic dmg buff is from the S3's E30 too

[solemn sage]

also has shield destroy, so she should go into a team against high shield enemies

[lime zinc]

Simona might deal not awful dmg in Ice Shem or Idre

175% dmg aoe normals that ramp in dmg sounds strong for Idre (although she can't give allies energy in Idre )

[solemn sage]

is the test CR team using moth

seems like the pet for her if trying to make her the DPS

[lime zinc]

I think so? It is for R4

iirc it was AwSol/AwShem/Raku/Simona/Tam - Moth
Prev Brute was AwSaf in that AwShem slot and Gin in Simona slot?

[solemn sage]

I guess the issue there is she has to be highest damage to get the moth bond

[restive goblet]

I thought she would be more of a support anyway with the energy steal/redistribution on ult and the magic damage buffs

[solemn sage]

but that means you can't pair her with a high damage ally

which ruins her ally magic damage buff

[restive goblet]

what’s the debuff in cr next week?

[lime zinc]

No stat buffs (have to use debuffs or dmg inc buffs)

[sour jay]

My poor sexy vei

[sour jay]

At least it's not idre... Fuck idre

[solemn sage]

We get it joux you want to fuck oden

[lime zinc]

Ivan was still meta for AwBel R2 in Brute, I think just for the energy & e30 though lmoa

Atm Kane & Idre are my worst CRs, Ice Shem & Dune are my best

[restive goblet]

His skin looks so good

[dark kraken]

idre is the best!

ice shem sucks

[umbral orbit]

if someone doesnt mind, is mulan e41?

[solemn sage]

36 or 41 I think

real gamers go e60 though

[radiant grotto]

e41, atk pp haste

[lime zinc]

Also, 30941 Mulan is missing 6 haste vs 30960 Mulan (due to haste stars)
30 12 41 Mulan can get 2.7 extra haste which can help get the opening stun vs certain matchups

[wise whale]

Hi friends

[wise whale]

Does she work at 209?

[dark kraken]

yes

9f is her main thing

[wise whale]

Useable for ts r30?

[solemn sage]

Come at me

[dark kraken]

idk mine 209e30 is ok for me r5

[lime zinc]

[umbral orbit]

ohhhh that might be the case then, ty

[wise whale]

Word I’ll do e30 then thank u

[umbral orbit]

Any idea why one stuns flora but the other doesnt? I’m confused which investment I’m lacking

Flora dodged but even leaving it on auto for a hour doesn’t make a dif

[solemn sage]

haste

[umbral orbit]

Ah so gear?

[solemn sage]

or more stars

or furn dupes

or haste node in engravings

[umbral orbit]

hmm ill move stars around then maybe it will fix this issue

[solemn sage]

with e30 3* is highest you can gain haste from

[lime zinc]

There's some weird breakpoints for being fast enough to stun stuff but too fast to stun others
E.g.
A5 30941's 21 haste can't stun Anoki
A5 30941 w/ Call has 36 haste & stuns Anoki but misses Skreg
A5 30960's 27 haste can stun both Anoki & Skreg

[solemn sage]

for flora I don't think you can have too much haste

[umbral orbit]

mulan so confusing

[lime zinc]

I don't think you can be too fast for Flora yeah

[umbral orbit]

finally got it work by giving my rem t4 weapon somehow so ig all is well in the end

[lime zinc]

I haven't used Call much but there are a small amount of weird ones where it's too fast

[umbral orbit]

im guessing it doesnt really have much effect in pvp? more for campaign

[rich wraith]

Does Brutus and Alna immunity count as buffs ?

[solemn sage]

in pvp you can never have too much haste

that's why I 18f'd my mulan

[rich wraith]

Cause aathalia somehow is able to bypass Brutus shield sometimes

[lime zinc]

I've only personally tested that weird Anoki + Skreg one
PvP prob just wants as much as possible, you can't use arti anyway

[sour jay]

Mulan v flora is weird, some stages it works perfect some stages it never works. Same setup and no enemies that give haste or the like

[solemn sage]

just max out your mulan haste and it always works

[sour jay]

I don't e60 pvp only hero smh, not a kraken like you

[lime zinc]

I think only Call has enough haste to cause niche issues

[solemn sage]

e60 is the starting point

gotta 18f too

[lime zinc]

I'll prob start working on some 15F hastes in a few months

[solemn sage]

most recent heroes have at least one haste category it's rough out here

[sour jay]

It's been a plentiful year for meta, only like 1-2 real skips

[solemn sage]

obviously the wokes and liberta, but also naroko jerome and robin

thankfully robin seems mostly skippable

[sour jay]

Yeah he won't be in meta for long I bet

[solemn sage]

oh and trish has haste too

also olgath if you end up building him

and cruke

[sour jay]

I think Trish will be a skip because by the time I get around to her someone will replace her

[solemn sage]

everybody gets haste dupes

[polar dune]

Well one dodge

[lime zinc]

Lib has 2 haste rows so he'll be one of my first 15Fs

[polar dune]

The other didn’t

[solemn sage]

you mean 27f

[polar dune]

Don’t have to max it

[terse heart]

N

[polar dune]

[solemn sage]

Lib deserves it

[sour jay]

Perp can't comprehend not maxing something

[solemn sage]

Nah I'm fine stopping at 12/15f on heroes like naroko

[lime zinc]

Ah fk, +2 is actually more haste than a weak row +1

[solemn sage]

but liberta is everywhere

and gonna be everywhere for a long time

[sour jay]

Yeah , annoying

[cinder cargo]

so is naroko though

I regret not buildng naroko earlier

[lime zinc]

So Ig I'll 18F Lib or smth idk, will decide when I'm closer to actually achieving it

[cinder cargo]

same as khaz 9f

[solemn sage]

Naroko is everywhere but not as make or break to the teams

[cinder cargo]

that's true

[lime zinc]

Could legit take like 6-7 months to get 18F Lib anyway

[solemn sage]

she'll get replaced sooner than lib

[cinder cargo]

I don't see lib going out of meta until like june next year

way too many places he can slide in an do more damage

[solemn sage]

longer than that imo

[cinder cargo]

I saw a r4 with bert too, 12b

[solemn sage]

energy supports have long legs

even if he falls off as dps

[lime zinc]

Even if he isn't the main dmg he'll still contrib more dmg than most/all other energy supps

[cinder cargo]

ye

[lime zinc]

And continue to annoy the fk out of us with HP manip for many months to come

[solemn sage]

can't wait for an ivan liberta round where you need to manipulate both HP and attack

throw in raine for combat rating

[cinder cargo]

at this point they should add a rosa thing to bert

[solemn sage]

oh wait raine is attack rating too

[cinder cargo]

he's just as annoying as manipulate, arguably even more so than rosa

[solemn sage]

throw in orthros

[lime zinc]

Lib's kinda designed to swap targets mid fight

Even if that is annoying

[solemn sage]

ivan really deserves the rosa treatment

[cinder cargo]

have a toggle

[solemn sage]

and it'd be nice on raine too

[cinder cargo]

we just need enough chinese whales to complain CR is becoming a chore

which it 100% is

[lime zinc]

But he's meant to save allies that fall in HP with his Link

[cinder cargo]

ye, so have a toggle between modes

[solemn sage]

yeah liberta's targetting being dynamic makes sense at least

ivan, raine and orthros are just annoying

[lime zinc]

Yeah

They won't fix it though

[cinder cargo]

oh ye ivan buffs my emilia rather than abelinda now

[lime zinc]

Doesn't AwBel have crazy high atk stat

[solemn sage]

probably star diff

[cinder cargo]

ye star diff

my abel is e66 too, doesn't help

well actually it helps, but is not enough

[solemn sage]

for campaign you can probably fix it with different artis

[lime zinc]

Oh nvm, mine is lower than Emi too
I just never have cmbr to use Ivan with AwBel+Emi for singles

[cinder cargo]

ye I just use like eye or something cringe on emilia

[lime zinc]

Emi without an atk arti should be lower

[cinder cargo]

I mean for multis that have a free-ish abelinda round

[lime zinc]

Or conversely, AwBel with like Warden

[cinder cargo]

my single comp is just no win condition now lol

basically stall until fox kills everyone

[solemn sage]

problem is if you're hardpushing powercap, class artis give more combat rating

[cinder cargo]

it barely ever affects it though

[lime zinc]

Well both with Warden would make AwBel higher

[tranquil crane]

as a new player who is still riding that motivation high where nothing's gotten too routine yet, I love the high effort CRs cuz those are the ones where I suddenly go score twice as high as normal

[cinder cargo]

powercap/nerf jumps are too big for it to be that big of a deal

[solemn sage]

I can only use talismane, other pets too low combat rating

[cinder cargo]

that makes sense

[lime zinc]

If anything you're more likely to change AwBel's from Eye > Warden than Emi's from Warden to not class

[cinder cargo]

ye dolphind also have to deal with not all their pets are highest level anymore

[solemn sage]

seal -> talismane is significant combat rating increase

[cinder cargo]

abel + eye is an awesome combo though

ye

I think if I were to bring pets above 18 I'd probably stick on fox

man I wish pets just stopped at 18

[lime zinc]

I meant like, class is more cmbr so you're more likely to swap AwBel's
I don't have E60 Ivan anyway so he's never high enough cmbr

[cinder cargo]

oh

[lime zinc]

I can barely even use Ivan in KT due to pcap

[cinder cargo]

I usually just swap the two

[lime zinc]

I'm 300m under pcap now since I used a merc+trial for 27
(That's 7% more cmbr)

Chasmic has giga slowed down in Ch51 compared to 49 & 50

[solemn sage]

Put 5* class artis on everyone, ivan's fairly high at 5* e60

shame his dupes are so trash

dupes give a lot of combat rating

[lime zinc]

Yeah he's high at e60, just not at e44

[solemn sage]

olgath creeping up with my yolo investment

I was able to ashem olgath some singles with the ashem trial

will need to dupe/star her to push powercap without trial though

[lime zinc]

Mine's missing stars too, so he's only 37th at A1 30944 class

[solemn sage]

I haven't done any olgath dupes yet, gonna at least +2 his haste so he'll climb a bit more

[lime zinc]

At least I'll be able to use AwShem a bunch when she's 9F, already higher than 301241 Rem at 30460

[solemn sage]

sounds like you need to e60 your rem

[wise lion]

someone pick asaf vs ashem

[lime zinc]

I need like 10+ e60s

[tawdry hatch]

@fair rapids should I go with poe or baits next twisted bounties? I remember u said with atha and better pets I could get t100 r44, so wondering if I should switch to the bait and let my furniture slow back down

[lime zinc]

Imo they're pretty close, I did AwShem because she's newer and the +1 copy makes AW after her a tiny bit faster

[tawdry hatch]

Saves like 40 cards

[solemn sage]

Ashem is better in TS, CR and deficit pushing
Asaf is better in NC and bossing

[tawdry hatch]

I did ashem as well

[cinder cargo]

My campaign setup is like

literally pick top 5

[tawdry hatch]

[terse heart]

L

JD push my campaign for me

[cinder cargo]

don't you push your own campaign now

[terse heart]

yeah

[cinder cargo]

I'd be down to otherwise, robo is always insta stage cap

[cinder cargo]

lol

[lime zinc]

I don't have A5 trial for camp because AwBel & Zol mess with it

[wise lion]

does bossing refer to AE?

[cinder cargo]

after trial is done I just use normal Ashem

[terse heart]

zzzz hate the worm bitch

[cinder cargo]

are you power capped ferret?

[terse heart]

no

[cinder cargo]

close?

[terse heart]

idfk

[cinder cargo]

61-16 is pretty late

[lime zinc]

Naro already in camp is terrifying

[cinder cargo]

I faced her a bit in cele tower

[terse heart]

she was in 60 too but i forget if 59

[lime zinc]

Both Ivan and Naro sound awful in pve

[cinder cargo]

she frickin sucks

[solemn sage]

And CR round 6 and any other bossing events we get, bosses don't have energy for ashem to drain

[lime zinc]

Do you have AwAtha?

[terse heart]

I kinda passed ch55 to ch61 in the span of 3 days

[cinder cargo]

naro herself is meh, her sandworm dunks on your team

[terse heart]

so it all blends together

[wise lion]

I'm not sure about that. RHood is in Idre CR r6

[lime zinc]

Dumps works too

[solemn sage]

Idre is a special case though

[wise lion]

which like... he should be totally useless if there's no energy to drain

[fair rapids]

Both

[crude flax]

@cinder cargo shem pls

[lime zinc]

Robin still generates coins without stealing, since he has skill that have a base amount
But it's a lot less

[tawdry hatch]

The what

[solemn sage]

idre is just weird in general

[cinder cargo]

ok

[fair rapids]

You can get both your whel so you should do both

[wise lion]

which skill generates coins without reducing enemy nrg?

[lime zinc]

Oh it's just ult has a base 20 coins

[tawdry hatch]

[cinder cargo]

robin feels like such a miss

[lime zinc]

Oh nvm you're right, he generates 20 at start without but needs it for all others

[cinder cargo]

lilith probably tried to make him pretty good

he's just not it

[tawdry hatch]

How much bait is needed for reso 18 in total?

[fair rapids]

Alot

[solemn sage]

Lilith did 3 energy drain heroes in a row, I feel like they've got something planned where they'll be useful

[cinder cargo]

323 * 300

[tawdry hatch]

6 digits or high 5?

[wise lion]

Robin always hits what he intends to. Lilith dropped the ball on this one

[cinder cargo]

~100K

[cinder cargo]

[tawdry hatch]

96,900 yeah

[wise lion]

300*[pet copies to get 1x 18]x8

[tawdry hatch]

Welp this pass is 1% of that

[cinder cargo]

I think that was ashem

he's just not used in ashem

[lime zinc]

I feel like he's not that far off from being really good
If they made him always generate coins but do something extra if the enemy had energy he'd prob be good

[solemn sage]

A little higher to account for not getting spice from rares until you 18 them all

[cinder cargo]

true

3000 should do for that

would it? let's just pretend it does

[tawdry hatch]

323 for 1 copy assumed?

[cinder cargo]

300 for 1 copy average

[solemn sage]

323 copies for reso 18

[cinder cargo]

I think

[lime zinc]

Like, if they made his SI double in effect for each coin an enemy was unable to drop
He'd prob be pretty good

[tawdry hatch]

Ah, I'll go check how many copies I need, how many copies is it for the levels 12-18?

[wise lion]

4 per lvl

[cinder cargo]

he also improves one of the CR rounds by 1b at 309E60

[tawdry hatch]

And how many pets for that matter, is it 6 for reso 18?

[solemn sage]

Some people are using robin on mirror twins

[tawdry hatch]

Or 8 I think it might be

[cinder cargo]

8

[lime zinc]

Well it's 1b with kraken bis, so it'd prob be closer to 500m for non-kraken

[cinder cargo]

when you get reso 12, you're about 1/3 of the way there

[solemn sage]

wait where's 323 coming from

[cinder cargo]

307

memorized the number wrong

I actually pictured that guide when I tried to remember lol

[solemn sage]

plus a few more

for 1 copy of all the other pets

[lime zinc]

Yeah it's 307 ignoring copies of all beasts other than first

[solemn sage]

it's 307 for 1 copy of eight pets, plus enough copies to 18 those 8

[cinder cargo]

anyways it's around 100k bait from scratch

[solemn sage]

then 7 more copies for the other 7 pets we have

[cinder cargo]

it's a nice number to remember

[lime zinc]

Oh right it's including the 1 for 8 but not the 1 for the 7 others

[solemn sage]

so 314 for every pet at 18

+1 for each new pet

[lime zinc]

I should hit reso 18 around May/June next year

About 2/3rds the way there

[solemn sage]

We'll get more bait income after new powercreep you'll just have to choose it over the new stuff

[lime zinc]

Ah yeah, idk how much mine'll lower due to new creep focus

[solemn sage]

Supposedly it was gonna be mainly using diamonds

but who knows how much lilith's ideas have changed since then

seems to have been delayed

[lime zinc]

My guess was that dia would be for rerolling but we'd need "arti coins" to craft them

[cinder cargo]

rerolling is gonna be so cringe smh

[lime zinc]

Or something comparable

[tawdry hatch]

72,600 bait more needed for my account

[crude flax]

[cinder cargo]

don't think about the bait needed, it's pretty depressing before you get a bunch of 18s and reso 15

[cinder cargo]

my game was loading

and I forgot to check on it

[wise lion]

is AShem still better without Olga?

[cinder cargo]

ok I lent it to Nerds

[crude flax]

Why computer so slow

[cinder cargo]

on phone

[tawdry hatch]

Well, thinking that I'm 30k through already is a good thing

[cinder cargo]

the bad news is the next 70k is a lot worse

[fair rapids]

With battery and tricking it's not that bad tbh

[cinder cargo]

you get like 10k from hand-me-downs

I'm about 10k bait away from reso 18

[tawdry hatch]

Well, the 70k is to reso 18 itself, I'm sure it's much less for seal 18

[radiant grotto]

aren't you at 9 mostly, Nem

thinking so far ahead

[tawdry hatch]

I'm not even reso 9

[solemn sage]

if you have trish fully built she can replace olgath for ~60-70% winrate new team instead of 80-90% with olgath

or you can toss her in stall for like 20-30% winrate increase afaik

[tawdry hatch]

Nearly just misclicked this photo and sent a pic of my nuts

[solemn sage]

asaf really just depends on your rem team

[cinder cargo]

in TS I feel like no olgath is a better setup for most people

most people as in people not in like t50

[solemn sage]

if you have alyca then you don't need asaf for rem

[radiant grotto]

why do you keep giving too much info

[wise lion]

Trish has 2 furn...

[radiant grotto]

anyway, pets, what I thought ye

[tawdry hatch]

My macadamias alpaca

[terse heart]

I'm glad i got to see them

[wise lion]

whats the setup

[radiant grotto]

sure, man

[cinder cargo]

just ashem kids random bs go

[tawdry hatch]

Pls what did u think 😭

[radiant grotto]

[cinder cargo]

I used talene and cruke for 6 team

[terse heart]

"I almost send you my nuts"

what are you supposed to think

[solemn sage]

ashem + libcilla is overkill for 5-7 teams

[cinder cargo]

98% WR on day 9 r2

[solemn sage]

better to split them and have two good teams

[cinder cargo]

top 100

[tawdry hatch]

Since everyone's asking so much, here's my nuts

[cinder cargo]

that's the problem

[fair rapids]

He meant the salty ones

[radiant grotto]

[cinder cargo]

I feel like for most people split produces two meh teams as opposed to one bad one super

[solemn sage]

Even libcilla dims is too good to keep together in fog

[cinder cargo]

I'm using abrutus with dims

[solemn sage]

abrutus dims, libcilla stall is the better split

[cinder cargo]

not that bad

normal stall is also not that bad

it's just burst that sucks for me atm

[solemn sage]

burst was my worst yea

[cinder cargo]

and abel ig , but my lyca is stuck in alna rem

[cinder cargo]

yikes

even with 3 wokes can't save burst

[solemn sage]

libcilla stall is 60%

[cinder cargo]

I hate how tarnos is so expensive

[wise lion]

do u want jerome taking pot?

[cinder cargo]

oh that olgath team is that high WR?

I assume you need a decent vesperio though

[solemn sage]

it's either him or haelus

both did similarly for me

and any other positioning was trash

[terse heart]

[cinder cargo]

oh that maxed awthalia in our lab team is yours?

[fair rapids]

[cinder cargo]

made lab super easy btw

[solemn sage]

that was bad RNG round, did better first explo

[cinder cargo]

alyca burst r1, awthalia athane invade r2

all sub 2s clears

[terse heart]

big

[cinder cargo]

huh, that's interesting

[solemn sage]

Vesperio isn't required, just nice to free up other pets

was using talismane at 6 teams

[cinder cargo]

ye fs

also day 10 r2 isn't bad rng, it's just more people actually try

[cinder cargo]

so the number of mirror matchups would double for instance

[solemn sage]

most non-whales won't use ferael in that team because he'll steal ivan

unless you're willing to star olgath, or your ferael isn't e30

[lime zinc]

Which ones aren't you using out of Seal/Tali/Owl/Fox/Spooder/Lion/RCL/Vesp?

[fair rapids]

Tali flexes to dims after prob

[solemn sage]

wasn't using winged

[lime zinc]

Lion was my guess yeah

[fair rapids]

Aren't you using

I read Wong

[lime zinc]

Lion was doing well on my AwShem dims, so I'd assume it'd also work on AwShem Olgath comp

[solemn sage]

full teams

[cinder cargo]

you have olgath?

[solemn sage]

in other debuffs probably would have winged in remjob and spooder in a hypo team

[cinder cargo]

are you like zod or something

[lime zinc]

No
I don't even own him at E
I meant theoretically if you had the comp without 18 vesp

[cinder cargo]

o

I hope we get a better split comp

[solemn sage]

at some point burst might drop even from other debuffs

[cinder cargo]

or a cheaper one

[solemn sage]

well, the traditional style burst anyways

[cinder cargo]

until then I'm just gonna plonk ashem with kids every debuff

[solemn sage]

with zol lyca

[cinder cargo]

lilith always finds a way to revive with some crazy new heroes

they've done it with zaph, mishka, athane, awthalia

[lime zinc]

Very good comp trust

[solemn sage]

I mean at what point is it a revival vs a completely new team

[cinder cargo]

they can do it again

[lime zinc]

AwShem has good synergy with Lib

[solemn sage]

yeah ashem kids is the best pvp team now

[cinder cargo]

I mean same lyca zolrath jump (zaph/tamrus) core

[solemn sage]

but in TS you gotta split it

[lime zinc]

Yeah krakens were using the LB variant with Palmer + Jero for one of them

[umbral orbit]

do people still use zol?

[cinder cargo]

ok but why do you have 309e60 @brisk urchin

[solemn sage]

in other debuffs yes

[wise lion]

ok I pulled 7x shem in 200 cards

[cinder cargo]

ok we need a ban here

[lime zinc]

Because it was a dumb mistake from aeons ago, back then I was using Fera in TS more than Oden for Alna GBs

[umbral orbit]

[wise lion]

yeah, for you, since you've had those rates since day 1

[solemn sage]

oh I didn't get a screen of my ashem LC team

but it took out happycat's remjob with no losses

[lime zinc]

I have countless mistakes from the past

[wise lion]

I deadass have 11 in 230...

[lime zinc]

Wtf

[wise lion]

and the 12th from chest

[solemn sage]

I took an R1 LC winner to full 15 rounds because of ashem kids

[lime zinc]

That's JD lvl rates

[solemn sage]

in fairness he saved it for last and probably could have swept me with it

it'll be the new sweep team

[wise lion]

I could probs afford my 5th awk right now

but I don't have the furn cards to build two awks

[polar dune]

Boujee sht

Happy no care either

[solemn sage]

still

[polar dune]

The bar for lib luc very low

[lime zinc]

Oh that was only your 4th? You must be way over 5th right?
I'm at 250 after getting AwShem my 5th and my rates were very mid

[wise lion]

yh I have 673 left

[tawdry hatch]

Ashem dim kids is best pvp comp right?

[solemn sage]

This beat a full 5* e80+ remjob with no losses

at tree deficit

[wise lion]

I was busy last discount event and totally forgot to pull

[polar dune]

And you test this via friend attack

[wise lion]

so i thought I'd save for next discount event, not realizing how many i had stocked

[polar dune]

Yea?

[solemn sage]

I haven't tested how consistent it is but it worked in qualifiers

[polar dune]

And you are willing to sac that much to be mollywhoop

[tawdry hatch]

So after Vei, would Lucilla be the next stargaze prio if I got ashem?

[lime zinc]

Oh that's a lot lower than me but still almost certainly 5 (would have to go worse than 1/56 to not get 5th)

[indigo quail]

[solemn sage]

isn't that the point of LC

[polar dune]

And exhaustion accounted yeah?

[solemn sage]

stack 2-3 teams to sweep

[polar dune]

Not in the current meta ,

[terse heart]

My current goal in LC is to ignore it

[wise lion]

u still think asaf>aatha, yeah?

[polar dune]

There is enough strong sht that no one team can sweep unless bad position

[lime zinc]

Imo yeah, mostly considering AwAtha is very minor for CR

[wise lion]

hmmm. do I pull asaf now given I can't get her furn, or wait for next discount

[polar dune]

Wait for next discount

Next awaken maybe better asaf

[solemn sage]

Just stick every woke on wishlist and build whichever one gets 9f first

[polar dune]

Potato for thought

[solemn sage]

Next woke probably isn't until jan 2nd

[wise lion]

@olive moat your thoughts?

[granite mason]

@olive moat

[terse heart]

you could just do every awakened

[tawdry hatch]

I'm still in desperate need of poe it seems

[granite mason]

[tawdry hatch]

Scram u whale

[terse heart]

BIG

[tawdry hatch]

How hard are cores to get?

Asking for a friend

[abstract storm]

Very hard

[tawdry hatch]

Interesting

[terse heart]

Only $31 !

[tawdry hatch]

Ferret it's not $31

It's 1.5 hours of work

And 1.5 hours of work is nothing

[terse heart]

More like 30 seconds of work!

[tawdry hatch]

Where the hell do u think I work

[terse heart]

Think about it though

Is that pack worth an hour and a half of time to you

[tawdry hatch]

I don't think this guy got the memo for building wokes

[terse heart]

He'll get them all eventually

this guy gets the memo

[tawdry hatch]

Not even si40 tho

Checked, they're all 35

[terse heart]

🌮 🥺

too expensive

39-40 is 300 by itself

[thin ermine]

[wise lion]

trish or edwin hcp, or start to sg olga/girl?
or hodl for gb girl?

[thin ermine]

girl?

lucilla?

[wise lion]

yeah

[thin ermine]

do u have ashem or mae? id consider olgath if i have either or both

[radiant grotto]

I mean, didn't you get shem just now?

I feel that luci makes sense, bob

[wise lion]

yeah I just did shem

[radiant grotto]

[wise lion]

but new girl coming out in a few days seems like she'll synergize well

[polar dune]

Olgath for that nc and ts

303e30 big impact

[thin ermine]

wait a little for the new girl and c ig.

going with olgath/luci and mercing the other pretty much works all the time for me

[radiant grotto]

I completely missed olgath on the list

[solemn sage]

Hodl for hypo after Simona

[wise lion]

Confirmed?

[solemn sage]

not confirmed but seems likely

[radiant grotto]

not yet, but still

[thin ermine]

do u have enough resource to pull hypo to A1 and 30960?

if not might as well hoard longer

[wise lion]

nc store reminder

[thin ermine]

[cinder cargo]

does it reset soon?

[shy ferry]

tomorrow

this is last week of duskwailer

[radiant grotto]

I still need to do the 4 heroes kill

[cinder cargo]

so basically sg + red + 2 juice right

[shy ferry]

i just take tg + sg + twins

[thin ermine]

go with whatever u like

[tawdry hatch]

Should I hold my mats for AShem (2 copies from her star) or engrave Daemia now?

[thin ermine]

i go with fram, tg, sg, reds

[tawdry hatch]

I went tg, sg, baits

[cinder cargo]

ashem

[shy ferry]

i would build framton but i don't have mae or olgath

[lime zinc]

Is Dae 9F yet?

[cinder cargo]

you should have 2.5k left over

[tawdry hatch]

Oh forgot about that, nah she's 4f

[shy ferry]

and more importantly i don't have the critically important hypos, Zikis Leofric Mezoth and Vyloris

[lime zinc]

Then don't engrave Dae until she's 9F

[tawdry hatch]

How bold of u to assume I'm even reaching 3 kills

[cinder cargo]

oh it's based on kills?

[shy ferry]

there is a quest to kill 4

[tawdry hatch]

Quests to kill 4, kill 4 in time limit, mirror demon with 4 heroes and 2 bosses during their special phase (which I missed)

[cinder cargo]

wait mirror demon with 4 heroes?

oh shoot I haven't done that one yet

can someone give me a comp

[shy ferry]

lmao just copy my team

i usually post the budget 4 kill as soon as new NC comes out

[lime zinc]

It's really easy if you just take supps from other rounds and ignore that they fail

[cinder cargo]

I don't thnk I've ever done the 4 hero kill mission

[shy ferry]

Alyca Rem Palmer Ivan is the easiest 4 imo

[solemn sage]

???

[shy ferry]

what the fuck

[lime zinc]

what

[shy ferry]

seriously wtf is wrong with you LMAOOOO

[solemn sage]

you just do one hit stacking 4 OP heroes into the team

[shy ferry]

^

[cinder cargo]

which pet?

[shy ferry]

soufflé

[cinder cargo]

NC released during the period that I quit

so I have no idea what the heck NC even is

[shy ferry]

it's like CR but it's all bosses

[cinder cargo]

I just copy comps and try to get one that doesn't have too low of a time

[fair needle]

Is new GB milf OP on test server?

[shy ferry]

whether or not she's a milf is subjective, is she even an M

[cinder cargo]

lol I took 1 min 25s

[shy ferry]

doesn't matter, you just need to complete the quest

[cinder cargo]

ye ok I did the quest

[shy ferry]

if you don't have twins or framton built it's probably better to get their copies over getting bait or juice

[solemn sage]

it's JD he has framton built

campaign main

[shy ferry]

okay then maybe he can build zaph

[cinder cargo]

I have everything built ye

well no leofric or zaph

[lime zinc]

[cinder cargo]

but I'm never building those

[shy ferry]

well i'm not gonna tell you to build leofric LMAO

[shy ferry]

unless swap event..........

[fair needle]

Captain Garp or Worm girl who is better to have at Mythic?

[cinder cargo]

I

I'd just swap like flora or something

[shy ferry]

flora and wukong got banned from swaps, maybe

[cinder cargo]

or just fat farm wukong for the duration of the swap event

[shy ferry]

they aren't allowed in grit lol

[cinder cargo]

I swapped my wukong into a tarnos last time

[shy ferry]

lilith got mad because everyone and their mom swapped wukong to get tarnos

[thin ermine]

[shy ferry]

i swapped wukong to get alna

[fair needle]

Can't remember the last time they gave a free wukong

[cinder cargo]

most people did cruke

[solemn sage]

lots of people swapped atalene/aezizh into better wokes

[cinder cargo]

or some atalene swap

[thin ermine]

u wasted quite a bit of baits thou for not doing 4kills....

[shy ferry]

i don't think anyone swapped cruke for tarnos

[cinder cargo]

no I bought out TGs SGs and baits every time

[lime zinc]

[cinder cargo]

so it's just juice/reds

[thin ermine]

yeah missed juice/reds then

[shy ferry]

it would be really funny if wukong and flora get their own category

so you can only swap wukong to get flora

[fair needle]

Better than me skipping 2 or 3 NC rounds

The mode takes too much effort

[fair rapids]

Wu for cruke

[lime zinc]

Wuke & Kongisa

[thin ermine]

i wanna swap wukong for olgath

my dream

[fair rapids]

If It let wu swap I'ma just buy a bunch from lab and gaze him to frampy

6f frampy of rip then I will 30960

[fair rapids]

Whale dreams

[solemn sage]

I'd either swap luc to daemia or wu for zikis

[fair rapids]

[solemn sage]

just to work on all heroes ascended

[fair rapids]

Is Lucy for dae just for stars?

Tree cap

[solemn sage]

luc has my only e80

and is obsolete

[fair rapids]

[lime zinc]

Zikis on AwShem team when Olgath moves back to Mae

[fair rapids]

Lol

Trish will prob take that spot

[solemn sage]

yeah not sure zikis would do any better than trish

[lime zinc]

[solemn sage]

even if I was willing to build him

[fair needle]

I still don't know what else Zikis does instead of jumping in the air and pew pew pew

[solemn sage]

I'm hopeful new hypo will go in one of olgaths two teams

[fair rapids]

Time for the drop

[fair needle]

Why are Zikis and Olgath's ultimates so similar?

[solemn sage]

probably gonna end top 4%/top 200

[solemn sage]

because olgath is zikis but better

[fair rapids]

[lime zinc]

Even I can only remember 2 parts of his kit
He has a skill that's kind of like Morrow's web & ult is shit Olgath

[thin ermine]

[thin ermine]

[lime zinc]

I can remember more of Leofric & Titus than Zikis

[solemn sage]

zikis was good in old rift for a bit

but only because we were 3 class limited and he was a viable cele carry

[fair needle]

Fox or Rock Lizard Better pet for lv12?

Or are cake or Spider better?

[fair rapids]

I did rock after spider and fox

But rock is solid

[radiant grotto]

I mean, yes

[terse heart]

@tawdry hatch are you from mississippi?

[tawdry hatch]

No I don't think so

Pls don't follow this up with "because ur the only miss who's piss I'd like to sippy" 😭

[terse heart]

FUCK

[thin ermine]

[solemn sage]

Ferret getting too predictable

[golden lantern]

[fair rapids]

This ain't a thing pls say it ain't so

[tawdry hatch]

I wish...

[solemn sage]

it's the 2023 version of tennesee -> ten I see

[thin ermine]

[golden lantern]

@fair rapids

typical day in questions

[thin ermine]

[solemn sage]

Never become known as a helpful person

[thin ermine]

what r u guys doing in questions....

[solemn sage]

at least they asked their question before pinging you

instead of just pinging and saying "can you help me" then waiting for a response

[fair rapids]

Fair

[fair rapids]

Lvl 81

[golden lantern]

LOL

[thin ermine]

for?

[golden lantern]

living life

(i dont like it in questions)

[thin ermine]

[golden lantern]

[solemn sage]

copium that one day Mei will add Mythic role

[thin ermine]

thats some heavy copius

[fair rapids]

I hope it's another shade of green.

[thin ermine]

i hope its shade of red

[solemn sage]

it's back to white again

[fair rapids]

Grey*

[thin ermine]

white would be OP

like me rn

[lime zinc]

It's invisible because you get banned

[golden lantern]

[fair rapids]

[thin ermine]

[cinder cargo]

@thin ermine join olympians when

[umbral orbit]

i heard u get candy when you join

[cinder cargo]

^

||I didn't get any, but don't tell him that||

[thin ermine]

[umbral orbit]

||its ok gabe pulled me in without letting me know too||

[thin ermine]

idk when. maybe when my guildies all leave or new event is too competitive for all rewards

[fair rapids]

Same

I miss floor time frfr

[cinder cargo]

Once again not close to dropping out of top 100 at all wdym

[umbral orbit]

u should join again

[cinder cargo]

we need to fill up the 45 spaces that @main abyss made when he left

[fair rapids]

[cinder cargo]

[umbral orbit]

we all living in zods world, but now the one many army is gone we in pieces

[cinder cargo]

^

[fair rapids]

I'ma give it a good long thought

[umbral orbit]

i was about to say that u should stay cuz ur competative but i got baited

[fair rapids]

Not comp yet but during next æ I'ma try

[umbral orbit]

i think its a tree problem

[fair rapids]

Probably tbh

[umbral orbit]

just grow some leaves and u got it

[fair rapids]

@tranquil crane what's best thing to buy for juice? I need to get my tree up a tad it's very smol

[solemn sage]

events are the best way I think

wait for a tile flip event and max out juice

[proven vault]

Come to nihi instead

[thin ermine]

ill roll a dice

[proven vault]

roll a d6 if it's between 1 and 6 go to nihi, else you're free to go to olympians

[thin ermine]

[fair rapids]

Alright I've been maxing baits bc I need baits sm but my tree is lacking now and it's holding me back alot

[old fog]

wassah people

[thin ermine]

same here. im in the other chat talking about juice holding me back

[fair rapids]

I should be near t10 for TS I have better stuff than potato in just held back by his way bigger tree ~cope

[proven vault]

what should I do with my tree now that it's resetted weirdly ?
push fort back to 77 first ?

[thin ermine]

im thinking about it myself

i wanna see how next week's cr is before deciding but feels like its safer to go for fort 77 first

[proven vault]

I could reset mage, sus and put it back in fort but they also benefit from being lvled up

[thin ermine]

yeah same here

and i feel its bigger bump actually

i could do mage/sus to 140 first might/cele to 120 and then do fort 77 if thats better too. this is my second

kinda where im at contemplating

[proven vault]

your might is 107 already ?

[thin ermine]

yeah

i had avg 107

[proven vault]

mmmh mine only 77 atm

[tranquil crane]

yup, like perp said its events- lost sigils is great, some might be even better, i wasn't keeping track of exact values back when divers last showed up

[thin ermine]

prob do might 107 first ig

for rem and awbrut

[proven vault]

over fort 77 ?

[thin ermine]

idk how good fort is now especially after this round

[tranquil crane]

obviously nobles too but i assume you are getting that

[fair rapids]

I'm not

Poe and baits still bc I'm not reso 18

[tranquil crane]

fair

[thin ermine]

yeah i think might 107 over fort 77 i think.

[fair rapids]

Poe can be swapped out next month bc I'm getting most of the prios for furn done

[proven vault]

which noble gives juice ?

[fair rapids]

Poe and bait one

[tranquil crane]

Twisted

[proven vault]

I'm getting cores and bait

[tranquil crane]

cores is a different noble

you could still take juice as deluxe on your bait noble if you wanted

(or poe or shards)

[thin ermine]

prob do juice after bait ig

but im thinking if poe is higher value than juice value wise

[solemn sage]

you can do both

[proven vault]

how can you get multiple resources out of one noble ?

[thin ermine]

my wallet cant

[proven vault]

Am I missing something ?

[fair rapids]

You can double them up for extra 25

[solemn sage]

spend more

[tranquil crane]

the deluxe button

[proven vault]

[thin ermine]

u get a second resource but no diamonds slightly cheaper than the with diamond version too

[proven vault]

so you have to pay the 30€ for noble + 25$ (ig another 30€) for it ?

[thin ermine]

yeah basically. for me its 25usd+20usd

[solemn sage]

I think it's 30€ + 25€

[tranquil crane]

For me in the US its $25 for initial noble choice, then $20 for the second choice

[thin ermine]

^^^

i just go with one...i get over budget if i get both

[proven vault]

yup won't buy both either

[fair rapids]

I get two of each

[tranquil crane]

well, the second pick is actually more efficient than the first

[solemn sage]

you can do cores + reds (or cores + dust) and bait + either juice, poe or shards

[tranquil crane]

at least by most reasonable diamond values

[thin ermine]

just gonna wait until i finish reso18 and swap

[solemn sage]

not when you factor in the actual diamonds

[tranquil crane]

yes when you factor in the diamonds

[thin ermine]

almost similar value if u look at potato's calculator for reference

[solemn sage]

you're getting 10k diamonds for $5 more

basically 20 SGs for $5

okay 8600 diamonds

but still a good amount for someone like me who values SGs

[tranquil crane]

which is still worse than the actual diamond efficiency of the premium currencies

like dont get me a wrong the diamonds are nice

but they're not more efficient by most diamond values

these are the values using potato's default diamond values for stuff

[solemn sage]

okay I get what you're saying, the noble resources are such good value that adding 8600 diamonds for $5 is actually lowering it

[tranquil crane]

yes

[solemn sage]

but still 8600 diamonds for $5 is still absolutely worth it

moot point anyways cause you can't get one without the other

[tranquil crane]

XD

[thin ermine]

whats the limited deal of the $5 sg again? i think thats like how much i value it ig

[solemn sage]

15

and some diamonds iirc

or the current different limited deal is 10 SGs + 150 cores

[thin ermine]

15 yeah

15 sg and 300 diamonds for $5 usd

[proven vault]

refreshing the hero coin shop is worth right ? 1000 dias for 1600 juice

[solemn sage]

if you have the excess barracks coins yes

I usually refresh it once a month

[thin ermine]

if u can yeah

[proven vault]

I have 480k

I just retired a few fodder

[solemn sage]

don't forget to hold some for robin

[thin ermine]

wow. my dream. prob needa push KT more for that

[proven vault]

yeah it's 40k max for robin right ?

[tawdry hatch]

40k yeah

[thin ermine]

yeap

[tawdry hatch]

of guild and barrack, then 160k of lab iirc

[solemn sage]

old people use challenger

because lab coins are better value for us

[thin ermine]

i still dont

needa get older

[proven vault]

I'm old but idk if I want to use chall

[thin ermine]

id use challenger if i had most of 3* and a few 5*

[lime zinc]

I'm gonna use as much chal as possible

[tawdry hatch]

you'd need all the dims and zolrath ascended to justify it wouldn't u?

[thin ermine]

[solemn sage]

like I said, old peple

[thin ermine]

yeah so old ppl stuff

[solemn sage]

I have all those heroes 4* or 5*

[thin ermine]

i still need stars

[tawdry hatch]

share chally coins when

[lime zinc]

I've got all the chal celepos A1 or higher (mostly from chal alone) and had all the dims from their original exchange events

[proven vault]

I have atha/ezizh/zol/alna A1, orthros A and mortas M
what do you think perp ?

[tawdry hatch]

nice nice

[thin ermine]

A1 first at least

[lime zinc]

Would still push at least Mortas A1

[still heron]

Buy Treznor and make gabe proud

[proven vault]

was my thought too, just making sure

[proven vault]

why ? he's already A5
not sure gabe would like me using trez as fodder for a niru

[solemn sage]

you spend 200k challenger coins to save 60k lab coins
200k challenger is most of a hero copy or ~30 red chests
60k lab coins is ~40 red chests

[still heron]

Doesnt matter

[solemn sage]

so if you don't care about hero copies you're basically throwing 10 red chests away

but if still care about them then just spend the lab coins

or spend the $50

[proven vault]

nope not happening

[thin ermine]

[solemn sage]

10 red chests is not a big deal either way

[proven vault]

who tf buys single release dims

[solemn sage]

I do if they're meta right away

2 months of not being able to use a meta hero sucks

[still heron]

Kaia did

[solemn sage]

robin trash though, so I'm waiting

[thin ermine]

[lime zinc]

So you bought Joan & Mulan?

[solemn sage]

yes

[thin ermine]

[proven vault]

yeah but that's different, big whels are not normal people
(I mean we are not playing the same game)

[solemn sage]

actually maybe not joan I don't remember

but I did mulan

[thin ermine]

[solemn sage]

and I bought both rem and emi

[still heron]

Tbh im surprised wheloerry didnt

[proven vault]

it's a dude

why would choerry whale a dude

[still heron]

He whales everything normally

[solemn sage]

if it was femboy maybe

[thin ermine]

[still heron]

He has 5* AwShemira

[proven vault]

he has 5* all his wokes

[fair rapids]

[thin ermine]

[granite mason]

[thin ermine]

[umbral orbit]

For trift If I got awsaf, Awthalia, awezizh, you think that it’s enough to push to 300 down the road? I feel like I can’t get beckoned any better then this besides dae

[granite mason]

I can made it to 300 with 0 wokes easy

so yes, doable

[proven vault]

lyon you're just built different

[solemn sage]

300 is easy if you fish for beckons

[umbral orbit]

Ur a scary individual

[solemn sage]

I got 6 beckons on my way to 140

and I don't even need them

[umbral orbit]

Should I just hold for the rest of the season or like it ain’t that big of a deal to reset down the road

[thin ermine]

as long as u have floor one saved ur fine

[solemn sage]

save a floor 1 for beckon fishing

[fair rapids]

Lyon is just supa smort

[umbral orbit]

I don’t remember if I saved… this is bac

[umbral orbit]

It’s ok I can sack 2 weeks to get to floor 1

[fair rapids]

Just sack 1k dias

[umbral orbit]

Wait I’m stupid I still need to push so I can get essence I don’t get this game mode

[proven vault]

don't you get a fix amount of essence /hour no matter your floor ?

[solemn sage]

yeah there's no reason to push early anymore

you do get essence drops at certain floors, but you can get that whenever

[proven vault]

you get like 10 essence per hour iirc

and your level only change the amount you can save