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what was your whale r6?
cr?
yea

...drez?


Solid Bossing hero
never saw him outside 2020 AE
I used him 4 CR. Ago
🤝 Lyon taught me this
How
Why these teams perform that bad? Can I make it better somehow?
38% Abel. Is solid
yea, that wr for no palmer no ivan is good
everyone ready

time for your first t50
nah
Yuh
idc, t50 is too far away. need good matchup rng to get it
just being solidly t100 is enough for me
Ootinistic 
what kinda of word is that
optimistic
^
I've become fluent in draken
2

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1154020432782037002/Peepo_Rich.gif
can you translate that then ?
i feel like i'm splitting my strongest team and thats dumb....
Took me a sec to find the second it's a N not a M 
Dims Mae? 
yea
I was getting 9B with AwAtha merc no Dae but somehow Dae didn't improve it at all 
Wtf
That's why I think Lyca dims Mae stall is smort
i run mulan ivan stall and mae elsewhere. its op
but belinda suffers without ivan, who cares she suffers with ivan too
show alyca WR in dims pls

that whyca position seems sus to me
It's better than what I have perp made that one and it's mega brain
maybe I don't understand whyca
Bedo gets delayed ults and saves emi or Bert and then it wipes
ok, i trust you, draken

i have 1:50 to regret it and change it back
i think whyca is just op in green
where ivan?
abel
oh right that's only 4/5 team
remjob?
DID IT
Many options and 1 min to lock
mulan in stall and bert in dims

ig bert not so good with saf
I hope I ain't just sell you
mulan is good stall hero anyway

she just ults and buys time
This what I thought
i wouldn't have done it if i thought it was real dumb

and i trolled you a few times anyway
If we fall we fall together
Lol it was not on purpose i hope
it wasn't, but some were reward day
It happens
just like today 
Let me get my first t20 reward day 

@spice finch maybe atha does better bc she has more variety to fight
doing pretty well so far

im hoping
good start =


Sad kraken noise

Dragon booli
His wyca dims lost 2x 
Abel wycaless isnt a good idea
I trolled and forgot to set 5T yesterday so I set one up this morning 

Good start , no more checking
Good... 

How far did you drop?
Do bad early means you do well later, so this is a good start

Wrong
I didn't sell celowz 
Why would you sell celowz 
i'll buy celowz for $3
I'll give 3.5
$4
$1000
Whale
That's chump change for myu, big whale
Like buying bread for him
I want a celowz pet


kinky
what did you do, joux 
next patch maybe ? spooder ship is close to the end
And we'll need it for next NC boss 
Oh that's pretty soon then 
always too soon
Wonder if it'll be a trickable pet or not
Im ready for next pet 
given the recent heroes/pets, it will most likely be good/broken
Hello reso18 kraken 
Hopefully broken
Yeah I wish they would chill on OP stuff tho 

I dared attack whales
You can't trick the new pet cause it's needed to kill the NC boss
You dont even know yet 
Once you've got Seal 18 and reso 12 I feel like tricking is even less important 
Because you need to progress to multiple 18s regardless
But at 12 reso the distance is shorter than earlier reso combined with many beasts being at their usable breakpoints
joux is probably right tho
Might not be needed for new boss, but I highly doubt it'll be bad and will probably be needed at least somewhere
New boss may give eorin another chance, since it may need attacks from both sides
I can activate reso 12, but I've been told it would be better to keep tricking
but tbh I just want to have reso 12 
Crassio and AThane are free too I think
Doe Athane work on any current bosses besides fire demon?
in a year or two i'll get res 12
Maybe hound? Could free up rem
Well, it doesn't really make sense to trick on reso 12 and spooder at the same time 

Why not? Means you can keep the battery and even get 9 more pets in the battery after
Spooder is too big of a deal to have at 0 when you've already got so many other things to trick on
do it
you are the best, pizza 
True, tho spooder before 15 is kinda meh. Slightly better on baden round Cr and best on puppet but not strictly required
Idk how much Spooder 15 actually affects CR/NC
(I'll see in a couple months when I go for it myself lol)
It's obvs needed for TS usage though yeah
wtf leo censored
I’m tricking Spooder because I’m able to kill puppet without it and I wouldn’t bring it to 15 right away anyway
I’m hoping the new pet is OP, otherwise I guess I’m getting owl 18
oh yay, jess 
you have zero personality
A true piece of cardboard
jess needs to not pick my path
ghibly picked red exclusively
You can just
it's easier
everyones ganging up on me..
I’m pretty sure whatever path jess pick is the danger path
u whale
😓
ok sori
@worthy rapidsv😭

nice work
Also that's free XP 
apparently i only get xp every min
Avoiding jess
cant spam 
That's how it works yeah...
Just choke someone every min then 

Pause 
Continuously send emojis with a one minute interval 🫡
Do you get XP from just emotes ? 
Wack that you only need 150 fights to catch up in TS
You probably do? 90% of my messages have been 😓
probably yes, because emotes are text between colons
I had 2 accounts who started ts late and now they are already in top 20
That's good to know, not like I'm not already doing it anyways 
With how the rating works, you stabilise to your actual rank really quickly
default emoji enjoyer
Yeah 
emotes give xp lol but it feels wrong to spam single emotes 

i at least add context sometimes probably maybe 

🎉
Do multiples 

🫡


What the hell 

I wanna reach teal but it's so long 

it’s your fault
i want t20 


beebop into questions, it goes faster
uwu
Just spend a week in #classic-questions you'll reach teal quick 
Sorry I'm just so tired of this game, picked random path and didn't bother 
Kraken wtf @candid jungle
if i dont get t20 i blame jess 
I can let you know my next path if I'm still alive 
I used to be the one asking questions and when I see how it is now I'm scared of it 
i have no control over this statement lmao

pick red next time
back to the status quo for r32
I'll ask things in questions to farm my way to orange 
Also I'm not too good of an early game helper 
dont need to be good to help on this server
Just say anything and it'll work 
just say some random bs
Prime example
yup
Can I farm my way to teal by sending read the pins 
you? 
I don’t need to answer any questions
I have what we call tenure


careful i enjoy this kind of thing




i should do it more often, then

backfire 
HI CHOEIR
hi clez
hi choromery
Hi celowz 
hors
🤡
are you peeking 
ok bye work technically started 13 minutes ago 
hello hythlo!
I’ve peaked and haven’t came down
dunno what’s happening
nothing better than getting paid to chat here 

royce t1?
Good luck 🫡
zappy paid me to chat here
T5 

why no t1
busted
that m30 whane too good
zappy is fake
it's true zappy only exists in our imagination
zamby is fake and bok stfu
bappy
mute smoku pls
bamby
Cuz t1 too hard 
need more money
Only works in our region, I thought he would die too fast in burst but he rly is just there for the SP
bambi eyes? 
thane relegated to SP bot 
i wanna peek so bad but don't wanna find out that draken sold me 
I’ll just say that ur doing good celo 

I wanna hcp Ivan but he's not 3f anyways 
he si30 is enough
He's M+ already
But my Abel is suffering and was hoping for his 3f to help me out a bit
Would need 5 copies for 1* 
thats expensive
Yeah I'm on 20k dia so I'm not really hoping for hcp luck rn....
sosaj
3F won't really help AwBel much
yea, 9f would help abel tank a bit more, but it's not a prio
Might help a tiiiiny bit in CR ig
But in TS the 3F regen is prob too slow to ever notice
Hot
no u
You spamming F r F r to inspect the hot dog?
yessir
Even at lower ranking (2-3%) it's not that big of a diff ?
If not I'll wait a bit more before getting his copies because hcping 5 of them is yikes
It's a really really tiny boost that you'll never notice, the main thing is SI30 and engraves
Idk if the 9F is even ever noticeable, but I don't have it myself to actually check
Arf sad, 5 hurts, but I'll try to get some copies by next TS if engraves are huge
i finished mine right befoe green started so not a fair test for abel 
I don't think I'll have an AW that actually enables more teams until like Dec/Jan 
i don't think the new ones have been enabling new teams that well
atleast the past 2 ones
altho alyca has bowling going for her
My next focus seems to be wThalia so far, but by the time I get cards there will be 2/3 more absurd wokes to build anyways
ALyca in bowling is OP this TS
Well, I'm including the fact that of my AWs, AwBrutus, AwThane & AwBaden are basically unviable as teams of their own 
woke soup 
AwThane burst is ~40% wr
Invade is like 35% wr
AwBaden is absolute horse shit outside of stall but that's just Seal 18
man you are a huge whale s1xeyes

40% and 35% wr is pretty good
to be fair, it's kinda impossible to run dims without abrutus (or any woke fo that matter)
Yeah he's on dims until like 6T
so brutus invade is really low on prio
when will abrut get powercreeped
do you run worm invades your ass at 6~7t? 
I did it for red lol, I didn't have engraved Naro back then though
It got more akward to split to invade with Ezio usually being occupied on Rem Job
😭 worm invade
tbf its a pretty solid team
Safiya is a pretty huge boost to an already strong team
Lyca too
That's why I'm getting her next lol, it's not a new team but it still should be 20-25% more WR
I want someone who can use gbs
realistically +20-25% wr is all you're going to get when you get a woke for a solo woke team anyway
AShemira gonna bring Silas and oden back 
when ashem is coming
I'd probably get even less from the ones that could make separate teams, due to not actually having the units to properly make said teams 
wyca took my burst from 30% to 90% 
Wyca gave a whole +40-50% to my bowling 
lyca rapidly becoming second prio
Too early to tell, we need more cycles
in terms of pvp shes a monster
Really need to see how she does in Evil Nem and Kane CR, although she does have potential in them for sure.
I can't tell if she'll be good or useless in Ice Shem 
who said shes skippable
Personally I never thought she was skippable 
Lyca pretty so Lyca meta 
But am also holding back any strong opinions until we can actually gauge things properly
are people saying she's top 2? 
she was doing more dmg than waden in her first cr 
- better than saf in pvp and works in stall and burst
make that make sense
Yeah it's clearly because i knew this and that's the reason i built lyca a few hours after her release
wait, she works in stall too? 
yeah lol
i used her there
I feel like AwSaf will be way better than AwLyca in Blue, but slightly worse than AwLyca in the other 3
I see 
Just build her cuz simp
And totally not because i am a hype slave
not fully built yet, but she improved the winrate by 20-30% for me last season
(seriously i just wanted to have a woke animated pfp)
Wyca nutty
how do you even use her in TS without 9f
Went for this partially 
That's a pretty huge jump 
Takes any comp to 80%
Jerome is so op
JD stands for Jerome Deez
deez what?
I think she's top 2 as well
Seems overall better than awsaf 
i wonder if lyca is worth getting dupes of
thats why i put her in stall. the team was suffering anyway, so figured there was harm in trying it
Her real contender is awthalia I think
36f
whos top 1? abel?
lyca is a skippable top 3
Yes
Every single dupe is op I’m already duping her
didnt wyca just replace abel in nc?
honestly is abel skippable
No
If you are a new player Belinda isn't a clear cut rank 1
Waiting for next couple CRs to see how she compares to AwSaf overall 
building around NC is dumb, since its leaderboards are the worst
and that is a pretty stacked comp for whyca
Hi whales
But if you are slightly older Belinda is bonkers in CR
She adds like 8b to every round
building around cr is dumb since its leaderboards suck even harder for f2p
Literally not even close
Every round that isn't Brute maybe 
(Ig Brute too if you had a big Fox)
Depends when you started
i STRUGGLE in Cr and imma old player NC way better
jd make us a woke tier list
CR is the only mode I feel like I can compete in

Ur a leviathan that’s y
for those new players who get diamond III in CR it's really important to have a good round 
Do we factor in player skill
CR is the only mode we can compete in
Like legit though
TS & NC are just cursed to be impossible forever
TS is just doomed rip T100
But you can actually improve your CR
uses the same heroes as abel?
We can't out progress people that have everything when we don't
CR is starting to get icky as well though
Our old investment is on its way out the door
Conclusion: quit game
Is that including beasts
Ye
I missed legend by 1b in CR 
I'm missing beasts for every round other than Seal every week 
Like without it the comp does not function type missing
hardstuck 0.1% :(
I was whacked this round of cr and nc. Record low…
Hardstuck 3% 
How much did you end up getting?

CR/NC is just diamond 1 city for me
That's not too bad
Almost the same as me 
23%/35%
A lot of push server people got like 26%
I got 16% in cr last two times and typically end up above 30% on nc
I hope Agb2 will somehow fix this
I got pushed down to 26% so I spent 600 dia to get back to 23%
Whale
I got pushed down to 13% last hour
life is hard


why would it fix it
Ur bappy u fix all
is anyone else stuck in 0.1% TS here tho
did lyca somehow make it better
It'll fix it by making it worse

Yes
A little bit
Help, I am stuck in the laundry machine
My TS isn't completely in shambles now
Not everyone has an account run by 3 hackers to get good TE rates 
Increases both winrate by like 40%
Mine is
can you build agb though
Dude you're getting top. 1%, you're chilling
one of my teams literally has 0% wr
I was literally clutching 1%
t100 for time card or bust
I'll have like 500 cards by then
Getting 1% is for whales anyway 
I have two sitting at 35%
jd has more wokes than me at this point
No hacks trusted 

I want t100
I regret so many builds
He is a whale wat do u expect?
If I had JD rates for TEs, I'd have like 9 AWs built
Real I wanna swap my whane and whalthalia
Dragon and co were advocating hard for her
Kinda thinking twice about my choice of building awlyca now since I didn’t get to use her much in cr…
Literally nothing she’s so bad
In TS, very little
She's still fairly big for CR though
i'm happy going saf over whyca
I guess she's kinda like Mae for CR
she's more of tower and campaign hero now
She's way bigger than Mae for CR
only bc dragon has almost all the other wokes
She’s always in cr or nc
Completely fuckin useless for ts tho
mae and asol still have uses
Camp AwSol is really easy to replace
like, draken has to decide between asol athane and wutus... solise is a no brainer there imo
We have so many options now it's not even funny
Ded for TS 
wutus is good for ts
i have a few useless things but not really too much at this point. basically just -3 e60's and -olgath
Athane
For TS
no
Makes me sad bc I had such insane rated on her
What the heck does CR +1b do 
I've literally replaced her with just Nev and it's worked (although it took a fuckload of auto)
False
Try daemia
Daemia and grez are so nice together
every team i see runs dims with abrut
Just was giving the most meme example, done other replaces that were easy fixes
My dim team has Wutus and it’s at 30%
He's clearly not t20 TS though
Hasn't been like 3/4 times last cycle
i just got daemia to 20930
he will be soon, just has to finish invests on his already whaled char
is her e60 good?
My daemia 301130
Even if he is, he wants to be easy t20
For Ts yes
what region is he
That's more value than 1b CR imo
building thane is just stupid when focusing CR is the better long term option. ofc he's just gonna get both eventually
he got 6 wokes in 3 months lol
draken's a whale he'll build em all
I’m getting it
why are you guys in the newest regions so much more whale than the previous ones
he can build all of them in another 3 more
focusing cr is fine for draken but not for me

Irels is worse
yeah
They're young and supremely unhinged
It feels like dumping money into the wind
This^^ if we spent like they did we would have crazy accounts 
you have to whale hard to catch up on wokes and pets
Easier to compete 
dragon is like 19 years old and makes 7 figures of course he spends it on afk arena
the fact that asulgard has a nearly maxed account after like 5 months is fucking absurd
By dumping ur life savings?
well "nearly" still has a while to go but
He’s 22
I'm not spending enough to even consider it saving 
his acc isn't 3 months old
i don't even know how his rc is so high
how can you get that much dust
Irels and dragon be spending my mortgage 
cant you just chain buy flora deals to max rc
wtf is flora deal
We don't talk about them 
the deals that pop up with flora
yeah he buys every single popup. they're quite flexible
when you level up or finish dailies or do something mundane
isn't that rowan
That’s in the span of two days none the less
Their monthly budget is higher than my all time one 
Or talene deals
Dragon hasn’t even been playing half the time I have and he has more wokes and is a higher vip lvl then me
is asulgard even the biggest whale
when robin hood
Been playing for almost 3 years still on 3 wokes, that's my fault 
Zappy deals
sorry i only buy Ulmus deals
nah, there are bigger, some asian ppl spend a lot
I’m 3 years in w 5 wokes dragon is 4 months in w 6
Could've had maybe 4 but I skipped rift since it's creation 
U skipped rift
Acc, wtf 
if i dont get t20 i will ban zappy
you say that like its a threat
I hate rift to the point I just skip kt

I'm consistently slow with rift, and even I find it weird 

whatever you can me from, it is a bonus to be away from stinky horse
Half skipped it, quit at 222
I can't find any fun doing it I'd rather pay people for it
With ur hero pool 300 should be smooth
Me with ae
Farara, Acc's post was what I needed to stop being lazy with rift 
maybe I just needed to see someone who dislikes it more than me 


I guess I just don't know how to do rift and pick random stuff
Me with hf 
I'm the biggest rift hater out here
Bro I hate AE the comp guild I was in ruined it for me
I hated rift when it was like 800+ floors
I hate trift so that's why I finished 300 asap so that I could forget about it
Same
Our guild r too chill to have issues with ae
Can’t not get the rewards they too good
That’s something a good student would say
Can I auto rift to floor 300 with my box @thin ermine 
relatable 
get your ranks and all is well
U can auto each floor but make sure to at least get better floors and relics
I was an awful student in HS but I'm a postgrad researcher now 
Like flora dew and stuff
Life lol
What comps do I even use there 
Rift pain
@ someone I'll give you 10 cents for rift
Go check out what ppl r using in rift channel just run the same stuff
Get those tg and baits
I have no idea of your roster, tbh
But check the pins at temp-rift channel and go for the one from bob
10 cents per fight deal
I'm getting scammed
Maybe I should check, Can I restart it ?
Yeah u can if needed
wdym thats just 40$ from floor 220
Someone offered to push to me for free as I dislike it 
"It's fun"
rift the best mode
Do I have to manually grind each floor 
but p2w part sux
Just swap teams around if needed
Nahhh I did like auto campaign/KT just need to swap teams around
Rift time after meal 
Good luck
Pure pain but thanks! 
@earnest tendon can i get your whane if you arent busy? 
Seal won in 13 seconds 
Meal done, depressing rift time
arti?
does he even use anything other than dd?
which one? I thought it was bob 
It’s old. I should update it but I’m bz lol
The one in pins that lists comps
Hope it somewhat can still help lol
It might actually save me
Because I'm so bad at this
Arti is fine. Need to use him for tower
Good luck~
oh nice! I may use it since I suck in trift
Farara rift savior
Real
I think I went too hard on auto last time I have Raku/Shemira/Eironn/Arthur/Hodgkin as beckons 
how do I go from 0 
sent
giving up on rift again too confusing 
run one healer/shielder 1 dps and stall hero
im on floor 222, can't I just go back to 0 
I don't really mind I'll just auto it
I just can't keep pushing with Raku/Shemira/Eironn/Arthur/Hodgkin as beckons 
Wolise + Seal 18 = ?
10 fights left 
last team u want to run in burst
if you don't have a memory saved on level 1, joux pinned a message on the trift channel on how to do it
good ol 5 am rng hitting

We hit the wall I did not sell you
I’m not checking, is it that bad? 
It was going so good for you pre x200
You gonna make me have a heart attack, how many rounds left?
You where at #10

You sold me
not me XD

I'm 23rd
You are the one that is t20
4 points behind rank 20

I can't ask for Top 20 rng, I got the nc frame hehe

All my teams doing kind of bad ngl
Fucking whale
ya saw my new freme?
No send ass
@spice finch
A ss
X200 wall is not nice too us
Not ass


For nc?
yes, top 50

YUGE
CONGRATS veri nice
thx!
I got 31st lmao

I got like 30%
How bad is it going for you?

Guys, regarding pet / beast batteries: Is it normal? It started with 14, then with each new acquired copy it decreases the amount of copies I will get and increases the spices. Where I kinda was expecting that I will get 14 copies and XX spices when I hit that button. So is it how it works or something is going sideways?
I also got 30% in cr which is better then wat I usually do
Look at poor rem
Na you want 14 spice 0 pets
My rem team at 40%
reverse dragon advice
Yea, that has been my wr all green, except last round

I got 6% in CR but only did the 200 dia reset, I kept it cheap
Mine has high been 60%
yeah, so it's how it works, right? And after hitting that button (and having 14 spices), pet will actually remain on level 0, right?
No it will hit reso 9 and then you will have 14 spice
basically resonating at that lvl will always give you 14 beasts, but any copies you pull is one less copy you get from hitting the button (because you don’t need as many to reach the resonating lvl any more) and one more spice to compensate
I jus did the first auto then didn’t care after that
it's so much resource if you optimze your ranking, its what let me keep up with bigger spenders
K well I’m bad with subs for cr and I’m missing a few heros so
@spice finch hey there. Wanted to give you some props. Were following your ch40 / ch41 campaign clears 🙂 Lowest clear level and comps that I could actually assemble myself 🙂 That seal 18 was unexpected though at some point in ch41 😄 Dramatic jump from 12 to 18 ) Thank you )
in CR, you can look at idea from region leaderboard, so you see weaker people
@restive goblet okay, thank you both
Am dumb Whel corb we established this
lmao
U also have better pets/tree
hi @fair rapids hows your life going
the left is correspond to ur reso level amount of copies to hit lv 9 or at least the amount the game think u need to hit ur reso level
the right is how much copies you already have of said beast which will turn into spice
looking good
Hi Draken
ty. I jsut wanted to make sure I am not screwed or that trick still works ) Appeared it's how it works, so I am good )
I'm getting a streak of +3
duud 🙂
The x200 wall is not nice

dragon, I thought u were omega kraken
You and celowz have been getting destroyed at the 200 wall 
ya should be #1
They hype my spending up I'm not even Royce lvl yet
Primo calls everyone a whale too haha
Before 200 we where 11 and 15
Now look at us
Yeah y’all were chillin in t20..rip
Yup
after winning the majority of your games too
Yea
Celowz got back 2 back +20 at fight 13&14
ZAPPU ZAPPU ZAPPIDY ZAP ZAP
you need better teams!
All y’all need to do is sneak 1 or 2 games from me and that’s fat points 
Is it over
6 more games for r44
Jesus
6 more for r30
I just hit the next 200 interval
maybe it’ll be better match making for you and celo now
Why is it so different every week
Burst did better than I thought wtf
Those are all normally 10-20% higher
My teams r doing unreasonably bad
I would keep seal there if not with stall and do soemthing else with mae
maybe
My haelus is just getting destroyed too before they even come out
So far
I'm thinking about just dropping next budget on only pets tbh
Does your haelus have t4 gear?
your best pet is pet then juice,
aint no way i was t20 for 43 battles and now im t27

That’s what I did for the past few months 
🤝🥹 x200 wall
what sp did you use 
I think I just spend like 3 grand on pets should get me close to res 18
Start buying bait popups
Awlyca
is that the wrong one

Abel prolly doesn’t ult fast enough without her SP huh

I'm not that dumb
Oh well, I’m just feeding dragon and celowz points 
No enough
with that influx of money I'm become a true whale
Rip t20 dream I'm 40 points behind fuck me

30 minutes for showdown ?
that’d be nice
you should keep perma juice and bait noble
still will take months to finish
and pick bait from every choice chests
Mulan
I could copy him 1 for 1 if I had her
better start now so you get to the finish line one day
Didn’t realize that nno never went aathalia
she's bad
Ahh I see
what else can he focus on? NC?
Investment wise at least
He building wokes and shit for CR
Think he likes cr/nc
going for CR with a new account is kinda dumb
How close are you now for mulan
you need pet rc 18 and fat tree to get good rewards there
I forgot to set teams

Wonderful feeling

Aight 5% inc
jd how are you this skill issued smh
one guy in my region has audrea burst with green puffball
Honestly f2ps are doomed, should I just go back to cramming
he's a huge BnB whale lmao
4 of 9 furn
????????
I started cramming this week!
Lmao
just go to a free region?
For AE? Or just bored
its easy smh 
Dragon wanna play ow?
Cramming to get higher faction tower to get time cards
???
Cramming for time cards income! lmao
Wait I’m pretty sure force gazing is cheaper than doing that
Maybe in a bit kind of been lazy last few days xD
mulan too good in green..and most of TS
time cards, not star card
I know
U good js lmk
I need 6 Mae but need to save 500 time cards for the new awakened and I'm at like 230
no but I'm curious
Oh that’s interesting
what is force gazing 
So basically you know how after you get an awakened 5* you can trade additional copies for new awakened?
yes, but that's omega kraken thing
Basically they don’t take away the ability for you to stargaze wokes that are 5*
and those omega kraken already are drowining in time cards
So you can force stargaze new awakened
When she gets 9f she is mine 
that sounds stupid 
It’s basically 3:1 exchange
But you do get the option to supercharge your awakened acquisition
but those who has the resources to do that already have too many time cards
If we compare pushing cramming to push faction towers to get more TGs
I think force gazing is cheaper
but getting a single woke to 5* is quite expensive
Ye it’s a sunk cost you have to just deal with
it's 12 copies, then you need to do 3 into 1
It’s definitely not cheap, nor a good idea for f2ps
But if you’re at the point that you started cramming just to get TGs, you should do the maths and consider force gazing
Faction towers you get ~3 floors per RC level
And you get 40 cards per 20 levels
Wait not 40, 20 cards per 20 levels
isn't it 5 cards per 20. and u have 6 tower, so 30?
(If we account for all 4 towers. We don’t count celepo because you should already be maxed)
why u assume I'm maxed in cele hypo?
So thats 7 levels per 20 TGs
Because I’m maxed with my crappy celepo roster 
you are like 150 higher RC than me
Oh really
I’m rc 688
hypo tower is a massive pain lol
But celepo doesn’t grow at the same rate since only double comp
So let;s just do composite function
7 levels per 20 TGs in 4f, 10 levels per 10 TGs in celepo
How is your mauler higher than gb 
gb is like thoran cheese back to back and I just can't make it work. also my izold is 209e13 lol
Whereas force gazing 27 TGs worth only costs 40.5k
Oh damn, my Izold is only 207e0 
Does that make sense?
from market, it's 900 for 3501. so a level is 11451 diamonds
Why force gazing is a better idea*
so 80k for 7 levels
Oh you;re right
2 battles left and im t20 
I remembered the number for exp and gold as well from my previous maths lol
But anyways, you’re still paying 2x as much
Now obviously you do get RC levels as well and that’s pretty cool, but iirc you’re not the biggest pve fan
So it might not be very meaningful for you
jd im gonna cram at rc 932
force gazing is a minimal investment of 12x average sg require + 3x average sg require/copy. let say I want to do that for 6 mae, that's 30 copies required. let say the average is 40 sg per copy, then that is 600k diamonds
Well you do also get more stuff from faction towers, but then you also get more stuff from gazing
It’s expensive, but not as expensive as cramming basically
useful for AE and other rewards too but I don't play to do it too much, just a bit, I'd like to hit 700
also factions towers give a ton of dust
oh yeah, I'm going for a small bump, not to finish all the towers in a week haha
Oh I meant like pushing more doesn’t give you free resources, you’re basically paying to excavate the resources faster
Through powercreeping, you get closer and closer to the limit anyways
Last NC cycle (that ended this morning), I used up and included the 700 diamonds attempts, even if I'm top 200, just for a chance at a frame
that's literally 0 value
at least spending diamonds on dust has some value
is split 1 over
1 battle 
100%, I'm easily at power cap in campaign and idk if there is a one in tower but I'm close in level to the lowest clears
Forever not 20 

My last fight was a sexy +19 tho
I’ll take a 76th
it's over ?
It's over Kevin 
there is one, but I don't think we'll reach it
KT maybe, but you have to be mega hardcore pusher
for me it's around 580 deficit
@sterile zinc 

I barely made it no #20
Jesus huge deficit
I'm currently at 493
@spice finch it's over sir
but battles are already starting to time out


