treasure-scramble

[thin ermine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1152109159106494514/image.gif

this'll help

[radiant grotto]

We'll persist though! I believe in us! 😤

[dapper lance]

[radiant grotto]

and thanks, Fara, was going to ask for that one

[thin ermine]

[dapper lance]

I have one quick trick to make waiting bearable

[radiant grotto]

Do tell me

[thin ermine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137640870426984468/1149062390378418277/30bdeb1fd21b0ef46255409598c451da80cb3e39.gif

[dawn tinsel]

Please share senpai!

[dapper lance]

It involves the transfer of monetary mediums

[radiant grotto]

[cinder cargo]

8m off

[dawn tinsel]

[thin ermine]

[thin ermine]

1 rc lvl would help?

[cinder cargo]

ok but where do I get that

[cinder cargo]

[dapper lance]

[thin ermine]

^^^this person's fault

[oak yarrow]

Wtf is this

[thin ermine]

mega ainz dims is doomed

[solemn sage]

2021 meta

[dawn tinsel]

Since we have you here, what is Choerry senpai’s official opinion on ASaf, Mae, Whyca relative ranking (TS+CR dual focus)?

[cinder cargo]

yikes

expensive frame and expensive team

[oak yarrow]

And still lost to my garbage team

[wise harbor]

Only Albedo Merlin and Mortas is still usable now

[cinder cargo]

it's tragic

[dapper lance]

my opinion is to build all of it

too difficult to determine proper woke priorities these days, and i don't have the energy to parlay with others

[solemn sage]

that was a meta team 1.5 years ago

[oak yarrow]

Look at where we r now

[cinder cargo]

I afked for 50s and came back to a victory screen

[wise harbor]

Okay a simpler question: Lyca or Solise next?

[oak yarrow]

I’m 7 heros behind

[cinder cargo]

except it was 2 stages beaten instead of 1

[dapper lance]

lyca lol

[cinder cargo]

[wise harbor]

Okie guess I'll TG Lyca and SG Liberta or something

[cinder cargo]

this lyca rem dae thing is meta

[oak yarrow]

I hate it that’s all I’m fighting

My teams r dying on the inside

[thin ermine]

think abt ppl without rememi. so sad

[dapper lance]

asulgard doesnt have rememi

[dawn tinsel]

Wise (and completely useless) words

[oak yarrow]

I have that and I’m still 1%

[dapper lance]

you asked

[oak yarrow]

I hate lyca (plz help me I need her)

[wise harbor]

Then pull her, maybe bring extra ropes

[thin ermine]

whale don need nothing but money

[oak yarrow]

I spent 300 te and got 4 copies

[thin ermine]

[oak yarrow]

Sir this is f2p chat

[wise harbor]

Now I'm demoralised, way to go

[thin ermine]

F2p u mean

[dawn tinsel]

Yeah I know - I’m just trying to get someone to make my decision for me, which is stupid and defeats the purpose of playing for fun

[dapper lance]

I see, ask me again

[oak yarrow]

Your welcome

[old fog]

is dragon here to lecture me about waiting or am i allowed to say that i want to pull

[dawn tinsel]

Since we have you here, what is Choerry senpai’s official opinion on ASaf, Mae, Whyca relative ranking (TS+CR dual focus)?

[oak yarrow]

f2poor yes

[thin ermine]

went to bed

[old fog]

ooo yes choerry we need your expertise

[dawn tinsel]

This is a safe space.

[old fog]

[oak yarrow]

Choerry is smort

[dapper lance]

asaf

[wise harbor]

Dragon's famous quote: "If a problem can be solved with money, then it's not a problem"

[rich tree]

I don't think you wanna be CR focus

[thin ermine]

[old fog]

zura are you a therapist or something that was great

[rich tree]

CR is scary

[dawn tinsel]

Awesome - time to pull for Whyca

[oak yarrow]

Especially now

[thin ermine]

[old fog]

where does aathalia sit in that mix do you think

[dapper lance]

I am flabbergasted

[dawn tinsel]

I’m an “or something”, but you’re welcome.

[dapper lance]

No idea lol

[thin ermine]

i thought im the only who says that.

[old fog]

ur a great “or something”

[oak yarrow]

Man is bewildered rn

[old fog]

guess i gotta be patient

[thin ermine]

patience

[dapper lance]

🤝

[dawn tinsel]

Just kidding - I’m definitely leaning ASaf right now, so if that’s your honest opinion with whatever info is available so far, it helps reinforce! I’ll wait till the last day of 20% discount to give Whyca a little more time, and then go all in on one.

[dapper lance]

i screenshotted my answer to all prioririty questions

[oak yarrow]

Wats that

[dawn tinsel]

Yes, I am.

[dapper lance]

I'm never not serious; everything I say is the unadulterated truth

[old fog]

sorry to annoy you with another one lmao

[thin ermine]

something u actually have if u havent pulled awlyca yet when u have enough resource already

[dapper lance]

nah lmao

im just memeing

[thin ermine]

unlike my money. not something i have

[oak yarrow]

Yea nah I shoulda waited longer but I don’t have patience and wasted it

[oak yarrow]

Can u tell which hero I keep getting

[wise harbor]

But time is running out for the discounted TG pull

[thin ermine]

wtf rem

[dawn tinsel]

Good to know! I almost have 800 tes, so with decent rng I should be able to build two soon — so guess even if Whyca turns out better than expected later, going ASaf now won’t be a waste (unless Whyca is a replacement in the same comps).

[wise harbor]

Is Rem serving you well?

[thin ermine]

10days more at least imma wait for cr/nc results

[oak yarrow]

Was till Alyca was a thing

[oak yarrow]

I need other furn but the game won’t gimme it and I can have naroko done rn but the game won’t gimme copies

[wise harbor]

Just top 5% NC every week, free furnitures

[thin ermine]

i feel u i need naro fun trish furn ivan furn and most of all 1 bert furn...

[thin ermine]

R4 HERE

[oak yarrow]

Y not jus card Bert

[dapper lance]

whyca is a replacement in god comp lol

do you have athalia built?

[wise harbor]

[thin ermine]

i havent been pulling poe. waiting for awlyca testing

[wise harbor]

You are just as unfortunate as one of my guildies PressF

[oak yarrow]

She’s insane so far in ts if that helps

[worldly belfry]

choerry do i use my red cards to 9f my dae(5f) or just save it?

[thin ermine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137640870426984468/1149062130117644369/a18570cc7b899e516c631bca07a7d933ca950dfb.gif

[dapper lance]

saveeee

[dapper lance]

who made solise cry i will kill them

[thin ermine]

[worldly belfry]

thanks, i need someone to stop me always

[wise harbor]

/ run

[thin ermine]

nc r4 always makes asol cry

[dapper lance]

ah shoot i cant do anything about that

[wise harbor]

Considering your top 10% score in R4 is as good as some other region's top 200

[thin ermine]

needa go kidnap lilith ppl to fix it

[cinder cargo]

hey guys

[thin ermine]

top 10% in nc r4?! my dream

[cinder cargo]

optimal nodes for daemia is e41 right?

[thin ermine]

i havent even made to top20% in nc yet

[cinder cargo]

since she actually does quite a lot of damage

[oak yarrow]

45

[thin ermine]

i thought 44 no?

[cinder cargo]

wheres' the other 3?

[thin ermine]

lemme check: nvm its e41

[dapper lance]

while youre there kidnapping them, can you tell devs to give chinese dress costume to a hero

[cinder cargo]

I know there is MP/IS and MP/Crit, then there's the ATK one

there is another MP one that gives like 0.85 MP, but I don't think that is worth

[thin ermine]

i needa book a flight first

[dapper lance]

[thin ermine]

its e41 u right JD

[cinder cargo]

there is a 6.27 MR one, and 6.27 PR one

[cinder cargo]

oh ok

[old fog]

i haven’t even killed 2 bosses yet… i did only unlock it yesterday but jeez i suck

[thin ermine]

u just unlocked so no rush....while i played for 3.5yrs already and here i am. disgrace to p2p

[sterile zinc]

Should I e67 my rem

[cinder cargo]

no

[old fog]

i got 1.9% left on the boss earlier with abel and it’s cuz my palmer ain’t engraved lmao. needa save the shards and cores tho

[cinder cargo]

imo not worth it

[thin ermine]

i e65 by mistake...was gonna do si30 but went to engraving tab without thinking

verisad

[sterile zinc]

[sterile zinc]

[thin ermine]

only mindless mistake so far in afk for me

[dawn tinsel]

Nope - only wokes right now are Baelinda, Waden, Wolise. I do use Waden in my burst though, so if I have both ASaf and Whyca, Waden probably gets displaced… Any suggestions for a single woke team for Waden that does not need Alna 😅

[sterile zinc]

Im surprised I haven’t fat fingered the pet reso button

[thin ermine]

woden wolise comp is used frequently

[dawn tinsel]

You’re the only person I’ve heard say that…

[thin ermine]

dont fat finger it~ dont be mindless like me

[oak yarrow]

Evry time I’ve faced her I get obliterated

[dawn tinsel]

What comp is that? I use Wolise in some mishmash Seal stall with Mishka, Anasta, Thoran, Neva/Astar. I don’t have OGlene, so can’t do a cheap Thoran-Kelthur stall…

[old fog]

waiting to see if she has her own comp if not then i go atha

[thin ermine]

its actually pretty solid. lemme find it

[proven vault]

I can finally rest in peace, I reached master in HoE

[oak yarrow]

I reached It today too

[sterile zinc]

My nightmare at least e65 isn’t tooo much, kinda

[sterile zinc]

congrats heart!!!

[thin ermine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137640870426984468/1137839131339268096/ezgif-1-f977c641ac.gif

[thin ermine]

how i comfort myself lol

[lime zinc]

I want my 25 SGs from Master now

[thin ermine]

master rewards r kinda whack ugh. they should update

[dawn tinsel]

I’m off to bed now, but will appreciate this! Will look and respond tomorrow.

[thin ermine]

gn!

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1137640870426984468/1149062129828253787/44699f25ab18972b8ad72114a3cd7b899c510afb.jpg.gif

[dawn tinsel]

😴

[lime zinc]

They're pretty dated but at least SGs are in high demand atm with double celepo + AW release

[proven vault]

Worst nightmare is seeing the "your opponent rank has changed please refresh" popup, and after refreshing you see you've been attacked by 4 people and lost 400+points

[thin ermine]

verisad

[thin ermine]

trueee

[proven vault]

talking about celepog and sg, I might have summoned for bert
he's now A1 e60

[lime zinc]

Wtf you beat me to it

[proven vault]

idk how I'll get my woke to A1 tho

[restive goblet]

[thin ermine]

most frequently used is tarnos asol nev awbaden palmer. ive done variations with orthos/mishka/astar as replacements.

[thin ermine]

imma tell u what. try pulling the awathalia out and put tam. sometimes that does better actually i have no clue y

[lime zinc]

Seal is the best celestial

[thin ermine]

[proven vault]

[restive goblet]

facts

[thin ermine]

i needa push hypo tower to 580. at 560

[thin ermine]

and im ded stuck on 581 cele.

rnged for 2hrs+

[lime zinc]

5 of my fac towers are all roughly at the same enemy RC
Then there's wilders 45 floors lower

[thin ermine]

ur wilders need love

[proven vault]

wilders is easiest 4f tower

[lime zinc]

Took me <1min
You are 45 RC lower than me though

[thin ermine]

imma copy urs rn and give it a shot

[lime zinc]

You definitely have better options than me
I just have higher RC

[proven vault]

higher RC is the best option

[thin ermine]

so ded stuck lemme try every single formations within 100 rc of me

[lime zinc]

I'm probably just using the same comps but worse

[thin ermine]

i wanna push to pcap

or max the tower

[lime zinc]

Pcap KT is doable but pcap fac tower is big whale energy

[thin ermine]

dream

[lime zinc]

Maybe easy once there's 3 AW per fac

[thin ermine]

[radiant grotto]

Does it get that awful later on?
I'm 100% on baby towers still 😔

[proven vault]

I'm so far away from you guys in cele tower,
I'm at like floor 430

[lime zinc]

Real fac tower starts at 661 with 3 teams

[proven vault]

and it's a pain

[lime zinc]

Tbf I did push like 20 floors today

[thin ermine]

ive been stuck in cele tower for a bit already again

prob need 9f bert

and rc

[proven vault]

I'm pushing rn too, now that I have bert it seems more easy, I was 421 before that

[radiant grotto]

Thanks! And neat then, still 200 lvls to go
Consistently powercapped, so the progress has been slow af

wait, no, 260*

[lime zinc]

I did all my fac tower <3T before Seal was released

[radiant grotto]

Aww, that sounds rough

He's the MVP for sure, best 4fac/celehypo hero

[lime zinc]

Dw, cele 582 R2 is fking awful
Wukong + Astar
Edit: nvm Lib and Dae are busted

[trail swift]

who is next best pet after seal lion tali rcl for reso prio

[proven vault]

owl

[trail swift]

oops after owl too

[lime zinc]

Owl typically higher than Lion

[proven vault]

moth or spooder then ?

[lime zinc]

I'd probably do RCL later because the 15/18 skills are pretty meh

[trail swift]

he's not 12 yet

my wishlist is seal (permanently) + rcl , wondering who to give last slot to hit 12 first.. prolly doesn't matter much

my ice beast has 2 copies into 9 from a long time ago lol. could do him for faster reso, or leave him and get 2 free spices

no copy of spider yet :q wasn't gonna bother til after 12, unless rly good

[proven vault]

Pushed 23 floors today in cele tower

[trail swift]

fuck trying to do 2 team cele tower

i don't even have 1 carry.. vei more of a tank

maybe after roberto invest

[austere lark]

does it always cost 3 pets to level up?

[lime zinc]

Oh 12 RCL is good

[cinder cargo]

no

12 - 18 is 4, 18-36 is 5

[thin ermine]

I’m gonna keep on auto for the rest of the time being. Gonna go get bz.

[trail swift]

why is it every single time i copy a formation that uses rem without alna she insta dies ;q

tower, campaign, doesnt matter where..just dies

[cinder cargo]

rem is str gear

and does not have invincibility inbuilt

how can she survive against like 300-400 deficit enemies

[lime zinc]

I actually pushed all the way to cele 595

Also the fact that Rem furn gives survivability to everyone other than herself makes her super fragile by comparison

[trail swift]

idk, she does though based on their formations. just never seems to work for me, 5* 30960 full t4

unless its just huge rng

[oak yarrow]

Whales

[worthy rapids]

Brutus so bad

[trail swift]

i run him in an invadey comp now

abrutus anasta joan (yenn/mulan) fill

[worthy rapids]

He will get mulan at 5 teams so should be better

[trail swift]

usually does pretty decent

[worldly belfry]

a short lasting dopamine that will be gone in a couple minutes

[foggy pawn]

Need some better teams

[fair rapids]

Good morning everyone

@spice finch

[old fog]

hey dragon

i was 1% earlier

2% now but thats ok

[old fog]

alna-less god comp went well

is she gonna go with abel now?

[solemn sage]

we'll see at 4-5 teams

[worldly belfry]

do u have rcl 9

[old fog]

me?

[oak yarrow]

No only 12

[worldly belfry]

[old fog]

i pulled for aezizh that was good choice right?

[worldly belfry]

no

[old fog]

but he is so good

[fair rapids]

100%

[indigo quail]

how am I still t37

[worldly belfry]

enabler smh

[old fog]

ok i must be best

[oak yarrow]

Yes ezizh best woke

[fair rapids]

I want to make team 3 so bad

Need olgath

[solemn sage]

gonna run same teams again but with lyca SP instead of asaf

[worldly belfry]

do tarnos and awsol

[fair rapids]

I debated it but don't have built Neva

[worldly belfry]

build nevi

[fair rapids]

I will slowly

[old fog]

im running low on si emblems bro

[worldly belfry]

i've been telling u to build nevi sonce day 1

[fair rapids]

She would have done me lil use tbh

[old fog]

all the +20s i need to do are catching up to me now that i unlocked NC

[worldly belfry]

u gotta follow choerry and be a simp

[fair rapids]

I told you

ATM I just need to +20 Merlin

Also Raine Neva hodkin +20 queen +10

[old fog]

yeah ive gotta do nevi and then get eorin and raine from +10 to +20

and im poorest on gold emblems as well

[oak yarrow]

Whale

[old fog]

oh and prolly lyca soonish too

[worthy rapids]

gib gold emblems

[oak yarrow]

And he’s getting lyca ur a kraken

[oak yarrow]

I have 4k

[old fog]

normal lyca

[austere lark]

kwaken

[worldly belfry]

push rift

[old fog]

not woke it looks like im not gonna get her atm unless a team which she carries in is unearthed

[fair rapids]

Just got my 203 lol for her furn quite quick

[fair rapids]

She looks to be doing alr in my dims

[old fog]

if mae is out and it still does well then ill consider it

[old fog]

no more gold emblems unless i get them from the choice chests which is throw

plus i dont have 5 good teams to run

and i js hit 220

ok gtg chill with the family we got pizza

see ya later scrumpletons

[cinder cargo]

So ezio is a carry now

[solemn sage]

when comboed with daemia yes

[cinder cargo]

What does daemia do again

Like dmg buff wise

[solemn sage]

increases damage received by enemies up to 50%

buffs ally attack by 50%

[lime zinc]

Ult is 100%

[solemn sage]

oh yeah, +100% damage dealt during ult

downside of her ult is it prevents dropping below 20% HP, that's why ezio combos so well with her with the execute

[lime zinc]

I think all sources of health-loss can go through Dae ult's HP restriction

[cinder cargo]

ye

so daemia herself can kill enemies during her ult

or does health loss not kill

this might sound dumb but i wonder if niru would be a good combo with daemia

iirc he executes at 10% HP uncapped

[spice finch]

[tidal tide]

How do you optimise Solise comp for PvP when F2P?
I don’t have ABaden so I can’t run her in the GB comp.
I’m considering dropping Astar and bringing in Naroko. Thoughts?

Edit current:

• ASolyse 30961
• Mishka 20960
• Anasta 30960
• Nevanthi 30930
• Astar 206

[worthy rapids]

get worm

[cinder cargo]

do you have tarnos?

she makes a nice comp with tarnos and lucilla

[lime zinc]

Bob's super old doc said health-loss can't lower below 1 hp
I feel like I've seen some things dying during it before though, in cele tower which obvs doesn't have Ezio

[cinder cargo]

ah must have been hacking then

I feel like health-loss sounds like it can't execute

similar to bleed

[lime zinc]

Maybe I was just mistaken from the lingering animation that made it look visually active but wasn't actually

Kinda hard to tell wtf is going on at 4x speed with Dae

[lime zinc]

Pretty sure bleeds are health-loss (smth like Tidus' is at least)

[spice finch]

abel has 50% wr at 3 teams

[lime zinc]

That's better than my AwThane burst

[worthy rapids]

better than brutus

[spice finch]

how did your brutus do

[cinder cargo]

try seal with abrutus

[worthy rapids]

[lime zinc]

Seal is standard for AwBrutus dims

Before you split to running a stall team at least

It's also better with Yen or Mulan pos4 but I'm guessing you don't have them

[worthy rapids]

mulan is here

[spice finch]

[cinder cargo]

whale comp

[spice finch]

pizza benched abrutus invade

[lime zinc]

I have to split to AwBrutus invade at 5 or 6T

[cinder cargo]

I heard that strategy was popular amongst vip 19+ people

[spice finch]

yea, pizza is right around that vip19+ corner

[worthy rapids]

[spice finch]

see how many e60s he has

[lime zinc]

Why would high vip be using a weak outdated comp in early TS

[worthy rapids]

says one with seal 18 2k baits and 30 spices

[spice finch]

don't know what you're talking about

[worldly belfry]

no point lying celowz

[worthy rapids]

• im 2 celepogs and one woke in the back

[worldly belfry]

we got the evidence

[spice finch]

you have better celepogs

[worthy rapids]

dae

[spice finch]

ok, u right, but i have haelus

[cinder cargo]

exactly

pizza wouldn't use weak outdated comps in early TS

[worthy rapids]

gib swap scroll

im swapping brutus in no time

[worldly belfry]

use salami pizza

[worthy rapids]

[spice finch]

for who???

[worthy rapids]

even thane

[cinder cargo]

abrutus isn't even bad wdym

[spice finch]

are you dumbbbbb

[worthy rapids]

hes trash in nc and cr

[cinder cargo]

???

[spice finch]

brutus is the maetria sub por seal comps in CR

and he carries dims

[fair rapids]

^

He solid

[cinder cargo]

he's the asaf sub for r3 last CR

[spice finch]

see

[worthy rapids]

i tried it

[cinder cargo]

you can still get like 7b, which is crazy for missing the woke carry

[worthy rapids]

it was x10 less dmg

[cinder cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/earrape-gif-21212225

[spice finch]

[cinder cargo]

hmm that's interesting, he did like 6.8b max for me

[worthy rapids]

maybe im thinking about the wrong thing

[cinder cargo]

asaf merc was around a 8.5b max

[worthy rapids]

who 5

[spice finch]

emiemiemiemiemi

no JoA

[cinder cargo]

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[worthy rapids]

who instead of joa then

[cinder cargo]

that looks a lot worse than I expected

[spice finch]

albedo

[cinder cargo]

framton

ye do albedo

where else are you using albedo

also backline your merlin

[worthy rapids]

idk fog is playing with my brain

[cinder cargo]

merlin gets rekt by mulan at pos 1 and 2

albedo is albedo, she'll be fine pos 2

[worthy rapids]

[spice finch]

yeaaaa

[worthy rapids]

we'll see

[cinder cargo]

looking good

[worthy rapids]

abel can wait

[cinder cargo]

I'm running the exact same comp, around 80% WR rn

[worthy rapids]

who do i put here then if no emi

[cinder cargo]

by 80% I mean 63%

where else are you using emi

[worthy rapids]

bruh

[cinder cargo]

also athane burst sucks 

[spice finch]

gbssss

[cinder cargo]

oh

alyca ezio

[worthy rapids]

oh ivan is free

[spice finch]

ivan oden?

[worthy rapids]

ye

[cinder cargo]

do you have dae

[worthy rapids]

E+

[cinder cargo]

??? why are you using L athane

[worthy rapids]

for the sp

[cinder cargo]

is it that good?

I feel like zolrath would be a lot better

[worthy rapids]

it worked before so i guess

[worthy rapids]

ok 1 sec

[spice finch]

[cinder cargo]

like athane burst but awthalia instead of athane is pretty good

[cinder cargo]

[indigo quail]

🙏

[trail swift]

nailed it

[indigo quail]

Talis carry

[indigo quail]

sus

[spice finch]

[indigo quail]

[cinder cargo]

alyca WR is pretty low

only 82%

[worthy rapids]

oh merc reset tomorrow

[lime zinc]

My AwBrutus dims only at 60%

[cinder cargo]

vs awthalia 84% and asaf 87%

[cinder willow]

T29 needs e60 Mulan to be a lot stronger, beats any remjob without rcl already, loses to Mae teams, burst 50/50 until e60

[worthy rapids]

gib asaf

[cinder cargo]

whale

[indigo quail]

[cinder willow]

No you

[lime zinc]

Krakeen

[cinder cargo]

I'm kinda tempted to get asaf

she's meta in CR and TS

[spice finch]

like, merc?

[worthy rapids]

ye

[spice finch]

1s

[cinder willow]

If anyone wants wyca merc to test lmk still got her free

[worthy rapids]

sgs are waiting for me

[lime zinc]

AwSaf is in a lot of CRs, maybe every CR other than current Idre

[cinder cargo]

I feel like by the time I build her she'll already be on the downhill though

I might just get AGB2 instead

[cinder willow]

5 rounds saf is in

[worthy rapids]

asaf has insane utility tho

[cinder cargo]

I mean used != needed though

[spice finch]

[lime zinc]

She's needed for at least 1, can't remember for the other 4

[cinder cargo]

needed is only when not having that hero is going to plummet that round's score

like trishea last CR

[lime zinc]

Ice Shem R3 without AwSaf is awful at least

[cinder cargo]

what was last CR again

[lime zinc]

Ice Shem was prev

[cinder cargo]

it was ice shem right?

ye I only lost like 1.8b from no asaf

[lime zinc]

With Mae?

[cinder cargo]

abrutus

and just sub abrutus with like yenn

[lime zinc]

What did you use on Seal round then

Oh Yen?

[cinder cargo]

yenn and bbyg both worked, but I ended up using yenn

1.8b is like

[worthy rapids]

[cinder cargo]

as much as not having mae loses

[spice finch]

[cinder cargo]

call shards

[worthy rapids]

what was his comp there?

[cinder cargo]

if it's already 5* you should un 5* it

[cinder cargo]

basically just replace asaf

[lime zinc]

I can't remember how much impact AwSaf has on Kane/Nem/Brute/Dune

[worthy rapids]

wtf

[cinder cargo]

I remember mercing her every time

[worthy rapids]

i 100% tried that and it was very bad

[cinder cargo]

let me chekc

[cinder cargo]

she's horrible in idre

[lime zinc]

Oh AwSaf is needed for Kane R3 too, getting Rem to work without her is rough

Yeah Idre is the one she's never used

[cinder cargo]

asaf adds around 1.5b to dune

[lime zinc]

My Evil Nem comps were all scuffed so idk if AwSaf was needed there (I merc'd AwSol that CR)

[cinder cargo]

allows a better setup though

[lime zinc]

Dune is shield-based so it makes sense she's an auto include there

[worthy rapids]

is she used with crassio anywhere? it seemed very good on nemora nc

[cinder cargo]

adds 500m to brute

adds 2b to nem

[lime zinc]

Are you getting these numbers from your past runs or some database

[cinder cargo]

around 1.2b to kane

[cinder cargo]

both, mainly database

ok so to summarize

[lime zinc]

My Nem was like 4b less without AwSaf merc

[cinder cargo]

idre - 0b
dune - 1.5b
brute - 0.5b
nem - 2.2b
kane - 1.2b
shem - 1.8b

[cinder cargo]

did you get to use olgath

I did olgath + saf vs olgath without saf

[lime zinc]

I tried Olgath but couldn't get it to work since it'd be without AwSaf if I merc'd hin

[cinder cargo]

but ye she doesn't really add a lot to CR I don't think

it does make teams a lot easier to compose since you don't have to worry about swapping a bunch of stuff around

but so far she's not looking like must have

[lime zinc]

Numbers have a lot of caveats anyway, since X amount is based on everything else you have

[cinder cargo]

that is true

but we assume you have everything else maxed because why wouldn't you

[oak yarrow]

Jd is a whale

[lime zinc]

[worthy rapids]

see and thats why my brutus did x10 less

[cinder cargo]

ye everyone has to do their on digging

[cinder cargo]

I don't think r3 needed a lot of things though

I think it was only 4 wokes

[worthy rapids]

this was with bad rng

brutus was doing 500m-ish

idk

maybe im dumb and i did something wrong

[copper sphinx]

Gm Friends

[terse heart]

what the fk is this

[cinder cargo]

oh

needed vei, hae and lion 18

small pre-req

[copper sphinx]

yeah nothing too expensive

[worthy rapids]

technically i could use brutus and merc fat haelus

idk if that would be better tho

[cinder cargo]

I think lion 18 was the main thing

[worthy rapids]

[cinder cargo]

haelus is good in that he gives everyone shields

and obviously abrutus loves shields

but lion 18 was the main booster

[worthy rapids]

lion is like 4th 18 prio no?

[cinder cargo]

not even I don't think

[copper sphinx]

Who's top 3 ?
Seal, Tali, Owl ?

[cinder cargo]

seal owl talis ye

then probably spooder...?

or fox

[copper sphinx]

Oh spooder is that good damn

[worthy rapids]

oh ye fox is strong i forgot about him

[copper sphinx]

I mean, can't think too much of lvl 18 pets I'm working on reso 12 already

[solemn sage]

talis and seal are the only clear frontrunners

[cinder cargo]

I think Owl is pretty clear as well

+40 haste -40 haste is kinda op

[copper sphinx]

But I assume once you reach reso 12 you focus on pets like seal, owl, talis right ?

[cinder cargo]

-40 haste probably not that important, but then dehaste is not a cc effect, so people can't just TY ignore it

[worthy rapids]

how much copies is from 0 to 9 again? 15?

[copper sphinx]

Or should you focus lvl 18 pets starting from reso 9 already?

[cinder cargo]

6 for lv 6, 9 for lv 9

ye 15 copies

[cinder cargo]

I think get 15 seal, then get 12 reso, then get 18 seal

[fair rapids]

@spice finch did you hit CR?

[copper sphinx]

Oh 15 seal is huge huge already ?

Thought it was 18 that was big

[cinder cargo]

seal 15 is probably the biggest jump

[worthy rapids]

if i trick vesperio and the white furry all the way to 9 its 30 spices + by the time seal will be 15 if not higher

[solemn sage]

15 is when seal starts doing its thing

18 is also big upgrade but before 15 seal doesn't really work

[copper sphinx]

Damn, good to know, mine is 10 so I'll have to wait for more spice to go 15

So Seal 15>Reso 12>Seal 18, noted thanks !

[obtuse mauve]

Spooder 15 I can see why it's good, but why is spooder 18 a thing?

[spice finch]

yea, but not great, copy nnoitorrra

[indigo quail]

how to kill r5

nc

[worthy rapids]

get bert

[spice finch]

impossible

[indigo quail]

bert merced, still impossible

[spice finch]

you can merc r5 tho, right?

[indigo quail]

yes

[fair rapids]

Myu can I get waden?

[indigo quail]

sure, req

[worthy rapids]

whats the avg bait income/day without any additional sources like exchange etc

[spice finch]

did you test E dae there?

[fair rapids]

Ty

[worthy rapids]

get fat ira

[indigo quail]

need her for r2/r3

[spice finch]

i get 20 from afk rewards

[indigo quail]

ira

[worthy rapids]

ye lol

cant be more budget than this

[spice finch]

[indigo quail]

[lime zinc]

How do you spare both Palmer and AwSol from R6

[indigo quail]

Wol palm r6

[worthy rapids]

i dont use them there

[indigo quail]

Maybe i need vei 9f to kill r5

How to get 2 more vei furn

[spice finch]

card

[worthy rapids]

including fast rewards or not?

[spice finch]

no

[cinder cargo]

well you can use a M naroko instead of M+

[worthy rapids]

i think i have to make some spreadsheet for my acc

[worthy rapids]

fast rewards is 30 50 80 100?

or 50 80 100

i forgot

[indigo quail]

not enough

[olive moat]

20 50 80 100 100

[worthy rapids]

oh 20

[olive moat]

It's 200 after that, I think a lot of nihi people like to do the 200 as well

[worthy rapids]

is there avg baits for lab?

im doing big math

[olive moat]

Sample size 71 labs

[solemn sage]

isn't it free/50/80

[olive moat]

Oh Maybe

[worthy rapids]

[solemn sage]

then 100/100/200/300/400/600/800

then stays at 800, can buy it like 6 times iirc

[olive moat]

Do the mega kraken max fr

[solemn sage]

nah, I just found numbers in the jsons long time back

[storm moth]

is dragon here

[worthy rapids]

ye its 50

i mean free -> 50

[solemn sage]

found it again

you can do 800 diamond FR 11 times in theory

not sure what VIP that'd need

[worthy rapids]

[storm moth]

high asf

[fair rapids]

Damn no lizard

He needs +30 right

[storm moth]

akka has 17 or 16 and hes vip 17

[worthy rapids]

y

[fair rapids]

[storm moth]

@fair rapids

[fair rapids]

[copper sphinx]

[fair rapids]

Even mines about to run out

[copper sphinx]

wait wtf even is discord nitro price

[fair rapids]

@old fog

[fair rapids]

Like 3$

[copper sphinx]

why that number, it's super weird LOL

yeah classic nitro

but idk why 10.13 for big one it's weird

[fair rapids]

Big nitro is for krakens

[old fog]

@storm moth hello i am here

[copper sphinx]

im a discord kraken

[worthy rapids]

imagine using nitro

[storm moth]

mine run out after not paying for 1.5 months

[fair rapids]

Give him some nitro

[storm moth]

[fair rapids]

Wait tf ..

[copper sphinx]

i like it

[old fog]

nitros smokus nitro so it nitros more

boom done

now whale my bert dragon

or let me get back to geometry dash

[copper sphinx]

gdash damn, haven't seen that game in a while

[fair rapids]

I'm broke

[indigo quail]

here takes my nitro gift @old fog

[fair rapids]

No more afk money this month

[copper sphinx]

how much was it this month

[indigo quail]

[copper sphinx]

[old fog]

STOP PINGING ME THIS LEVEL IS RLLY HARD

[indigo quail]

[rare grove]

Doubt

[old fog]

PLEASE

[solemn sage]

what level

[fair rapids]

@old fog @old fog @old fog

[solemn sage]

[copper sphinx]

good luck on that very hard level

[old fog]

it’s an easy demon it’s called the lightning road

[indigo quail]

use lightning reed

[old fog]

i bet perp was a gd nerd back in the day

[solemn sage]

I have no idea what game that is

[old fog]

or that

[fair rapids]

[copper sphinx]

geometry dash

[solemn sage]

oh

heard of it, never played it

never got too into rhythm games

[indigo quail]

its easier than super hexagon

[copper sphinx]

it was kinda fun back then but I haven't played it since I was 14 or 15 so it's old memories now

was more into osu tho

[indigo quail]

game for kids :pepe_yes:

[copper sphinx]

[solemn sage]

I did try osu for a bit but I'm too OCD for that shit

[old fog]

I FAUQIN BEAT THE LEVEL LOVE YOU GUYS

[solemn sage]

I downloaded every single ranked beatmap and just SS'd them one by one

[copper sphinx]

Now I'm playing rocket league and valorant so I'm vibing away from rhythm (idk selling) stuff

[old fog]

maybe it’s a 14-15 phase im 14 rn and 15 in 3 days

[solemn sage]

gave up about 2000 in

[worthy rapids]

ok i did the math, i should have 2 lvl 18 pets after 137 days of f2pooring

[old fog]

am valo gamer too used to play rl too

[copper sphinx]

yeaaaaah osu can be very chill but once you're going for harder stuff gl with that, got pretty good but my game was lagging too much

[obtuse mauve]

Did anyone try alyca with scarlet in masked?

[copper sphinx]

You'll see that in a few days then

[copper sphinx]

Damn what rank on both ?

[solemn sage]

main reason I quit osu was I got stuck on something I couldn't SS because I sucked at spinning

[copper sphinx]

that's kinda sad

[solemn sage]

spinning with mouse is hard

[old fog]

played rl when i was like 11 so like gold i think, valo i don’t play comp much so i’m only silver but if i actually pushed i could prolly get higher

[solemn sage]

and I never got into enough to get a tablet

[copper sphinx]

yeah it's annoying on mouse

[old fog]

don’t bully my suckyness i’m only smol

[copper sphinx]

still got my tablet in front of me, miss the game but it's too laggy

[solemn sage]

I feel like I wouldn't be able to use tablet anyways

I'm lefty

but I tap with left hand too

[old fog]

all lefty people are smart

[copper sphinx]

2 of the top 3 players of all time are lefty iirc

[old fog]

never met one who isn’t

[solemn sage]

but do they tap with right hand

cause I can't really do that

[old fog]

actually no that’s a lie my friend leon is lefty and he’s got room temperature IQ

[copper sphinx]

oh that's kinda nice, I'm champion 1 in RL and silver in Valo but I think I can reach gold if I try it

[copper sphinx]

yup left hand aiming right hand tapping

[old fog]

dayum he’s cracked

[solemn sage]

yeah I left hand tap but would left hand tablet too

it's like why I can't field in baseball

I catch and throw with same hand

[copper sphinx]

were you tapping with mouse ? how did you even play

[solemn sage]

I can mouse with my right hand

but not write

[copper sphinx]

yeah the weird thing is getting used to having your hands having a separate task, but once it's done it's ggs

[solemn sage]

and not spin apparently

[copper sphinx]

ooooh I see

spinning on mouse = pain
tablet feels natural on this tho

[copper sphinx]

had too much time to waste*

[old fog]

it’s ok i spend lots of time playing afk arena and i still am bad

[copper sphinx]

I don't understand anything about comps in afk arena so I feel you

[old fog]

but that’s cuz i don’t spend that’s my excuse i feel like i’m doing well for how long i’ve played

i’m good at pvp comps no clue about anything else

[copper sphinx]

i just press the copy button for comps

or ask for help

my account isn't that bad tho, nothing wrongly invested, just a bad comp person

[fair rapids]

Good

Why not 1% then

[copper sphinx]

money too op

[old fog]

because im only good at them when i have wokes to work with

i was 1% before too

[copper sphinx]

speaking about wokes, how's ALyca so far ? I'm close to pulling with my 550 cards but not sure if she's worth it or better go with someone else (ABel/ABrutus done)

[obtuse mauve]

Imo it's still too early to tell

[old fog]

same boat, thinking wathalia rn cuz alyca doesn’t look like she’s gonna fit my needs but waiting to see if she shows up in any TS comps

but alyca looks good for CR and does well in burst and god comp in TS, not sure about NC

[copper sphinx]

she does well but does she perform better than ASafiya tho

[copper sphinx]

yeah I assumed as well but wanna take advantage of reduced cost cuz not sure if I'll be there to pull the next week

[fair rapids]

Problem is you don't have a burst and don't need to improve rem alna

[old fog]

that’s why i’m thinking wathalia bc i have baby burst planned for her

[obtuse mauve]

I'd say that the discount is not worth the risk of making the wrong call, even if I did pull the discount earlier than I should other times

[solemn sage]

Just did a test, my left hand can stream ~200bpm and my right hand only ~180

[copper sphinx]

I mean, technically right but I don't think you're in the wrong if you were to pull another that's been tested & approved during discount, doesn't have to be Lyca if she's not doing well to the point of considering her absolute prio

[copper sphinx]

where did you test that

[solemn sage]

https://ckrisirkc.github.io/osuStreamSpeed.js/newindex.html

[fair rapids]

[copper sphinx]

did you leave 20 clicks or more ?

[solemn sage]

just did 20

I wasn't playing stuff with longer streams than that

[copper sphinx]

ill give it a try

[solemn sage]

200 is probably still pretty slow I know top players can do like 300+

[copper sphinx]

left hand peak (other tests were more 250-280):

lemme try right hand tho

right hand peak (more around 250-270 with it tho)

[worthy rapids]

[solemn sage]

okay actually trying I can do more like 220-230 left hand

[old fog]

what is this

[solemn sage]

right hand still only 180

[old fog]

is this a cps test but backwards or something

[copper sphinx]

300 is super uncommon actually, bursting 300 can be done by some people but actually streaming it is actually super super rare

200 isn't that bad actually, most people are around that iirc

[copper sphinx]

kps test yeah

[spice finch]

osu players

[copper sphinx]

big numbers nice

[solemn sage]

what bpm of a song you can tap eighth notes (?) for in osu

[spice finch]

old man hands

[copper sphinx]

it'll be okay

[polar dune]

Boomer speed

[worthy rapids]

i can get to 320 but then my hand gets a stroke

220 avg

(never played osu)

[copper sphinx]

yeah I peaked at 310 but it hurts if I force it too much, my avg is around 250-270 (or 280 depending which hand) on a short span

longer stuff I'd stay I'm more around 220-230

[spice finch]

[copper sphinx]

damn you played quite a lot

[spice finch]

its a lot more than that

[copper sphinx]

offline player ?

[spice finch]

it only counted ranked maps at some point, and practice diffs also don't count

[solemn sage]

okay I just tried 200 clicks and by the end I was down to 160

[copper sphinx]

oh I had no idea about that

[copper sphinx]

200 is a ton LOL I don't know much songs that have 200 notes bursts

[solemn sage]

yeah that's some dragonforce shit

[worthy rapids]

[spice finch]

thats impressive, pizza

[worthy rapids]

100 too hard

[copper sphinx]

even dragonforce doesnt have 200 notes

[copper sphinx]

[spice finch]

the unstable rate not being that terrible is more impressive than the speed

[copper sphinx]

260 on 100 is huge wtf

thought my stamina would die faster than this

[worthy rapids]

i was doing similar stuff where you have to click fast so i can kinda do that but it was much slower than this

[copper sphinx]

idle games ?

[worthy rapids]

you needed to be precise kinda

[worthy rapids]

strafing

[copper sphinx]

minecraft pvp ?

[solemn sage]

I bound one of my extra mouse buttons to a spam click macro for clicker games

[worthy rapids]

wtf no

[copper sphinx]

what's strafing then

[worthy rapids]

i can send you in dms cus too much offtop is risky

[copper sphinx]

sure sure, wait lemme open dms

should be open

damn I wanna play osu again now but lags are scary

[olive moat]

Hmm it's pretty hard to do this click test thing on a phone

[copper sphinx]

I didn't even know it was possible

[olive moat]

It's not

[solemn sage]

this one is designed specfically for osu so yea

[olive moat]

idk what that is

[solemn sage]

I'm sure there's ones for clicker games that would just take any input

[olive moat]

Ohio state university

[copper sphinx]

rhythm game

[spice finch]

a rhythm game

[solemn sage]

a game where you click the circles to the beat

[copper sphinx]

I used to go with kohi click tester that was more for jitterclicking tho

[solemn sage]

except nobody actually clicks the circles, they move their mouse over the circles and press z/x

or use a stylus+tablet if they're real tryhard

[spice finch]

[olive moat]

Operating a Stylus sounds way easier than a mouse

[copper sphinx]

it feels more natural

To me at least

[solemn sage]

unless you're a weirdo like me who's lefthanded for both stylus and keyboard

[spice finch]

time to play for 5 minutes and get frustrated for being washed

[copper sphinx]

go for that 7* fc

[solemn sage]

I can mouse with right hand because I grew up with it

[spice finch]

can't do that anymore

[sour jay]

U can't bowl me bitch

[copper sphinx]

my biggest regret is that I actually quit before reaching 30

[solemn sage]

but stylus with right hand and tapping with right hand both feel super unnatural

[copper sphinx]

just train a bit to tap with right hand it'll get easier, was feeling weird for me at first too

[solemn sage]

40 bpm streaming difference feels like it'd be difficult to train

[copper sphinx]

well, depends the type of stuff you play tbh

I can tap fast but don't really need it because I play jumps more nowadays

[fair rapids]

Old man

[spice finch]

[spice finch]

have you played it draken

[fair rapids]

Dw I could never do osu

[fair rapids]

I tried for maybe a week or 2

I'm not good at it

[solemn sage]

what if I play every ranked beatmap in the game in order of ascending difficulty until I SS them all

[cinder cargo]

btw what is the p2wins comp in TS again

[solemn sage]

I have completionist tendencies

[cinder cargo]

p2wins, emi, who else

[copper sphinx]

I think you wouldn't get issues until you reach high level tbh, and until you reach that point you'll get much faster

[cinder cargo]

mulan middle back and bedo?

[spice finch]

[cinder cargo]

woah

[sour jay]

Why is your tree evenly levelled

[cinder cargo]

osu vet

[spice finch]

that not me

[cinder cargo]

wait are you whaling super hard @sour jay?

[sour jay]

What

[cinder cargo]

your account looks stacked vs your tree level and region

[copper sphinx]

is that the polish dude

[spice finch]

that xasuma

[sour jay]

That's my arena team

One woke and dims is stacked?

[copper sphinx]

polish dude did worse

[cinder cargo]

looks very scary

[still heron]

Bush Sir

[cinder cargo]

17 seal as well

[sour jay]

I tricked it, the rest of my pet are shit

[cinder cargo]

if you didn't tell me I would have guessed your spending was on pace for. vip 16

[sour jay]

I spend a bit, but usually just deluxe monthly and occasionally a bit more

Either you're trolling or you really don't understand the game lol

[solemn sage]

I quit because I got one S rank because of a failed spinner since spinning with non-dominant hand is hell

[sour jay]

I'm like $100 off vip 11

[lofty silo]

[copper sphinx]

ouch

[cinder cargo]

I guess. don't understand how early progression works much anymore

[solemn sage]

and it was DTHR, so 100% with DTHRHD+spunout was a lower score

would have had to 100% with fullmod including flashlight to beat that score with spunout

[copper sphinx]

spunout is cool but it's annoying it lowers score when it's already spinning slow enough

[solemn sage]

and fuck flashlight

[oak yarrow]

Hi scrumblers

[copper sphinx]

fl is some dangerous stuff

[olive moat]

Evidently you have literally zero intuition for estimating spending

[solemn sage]

yeah Joux's account is a lot smaller than mine and I'm not VIP16 yet

[cinder cargo]

tbf, I don't mean he has spent 5 digits on that, but rather he is on pace for vip 16 after a few years

I know what vip 16 accounts look like enough to know that is not vip 16

but looks like vip 12 or something in 2 months

[trail swift]

im vip 100

[copper sphinx]

how much even is vip 12

[solemn sage]

isn't joux account like 3 years old

[cinder cargo]

no he restarted

like pretty recently

[solemn sage]

oh

[cinder cargo]

hence my reaction

[solemn sage]

kraken then

[cinder cargo]

like it doesn't look much worse than dragon and co.

[sour jay]

It's one team

[cinder cargo]

one team whale, all teams whale

[fair rapids]

It's like v11

[sour jay]

I have only 2 woke and 4 e60 are my only ones lol

[cinder cargo]

2 wokes already

[sour jay]

Draken has 5 woke

[fair rapids]

Joux is smallest whale here I think

[cinder cargo]

mini draken inc.

[solemn sage]

yeah JD way bigger whale

[cinder cargo]

[fair rapids]

Potato has 7

[sour jay]

2 wokes in 9 months isn't much

[fair rapids]

And celo has 4

[cinder cargo]

I mean I'm technically bigger, just not whale

[sour jay]

Soon I'll have 3 wokes in 9 months which is avg pace for light spending

[cinder cargo]

oh r43 is 9 months old?

[sour jay]

Yeah

[cinder cargo]

I thought it was like 1.5

[sour jay]

[cinder cargo]

oh in 9 months that makes a lot more sense

[sour jay]

Now I'm tiny again

[cinder cargo]

but new region is less depressing than old one right

[sour jay]

Well I can actually get t100 ts

[cinder cargo]

at least you get to be top 100 and feel like you are competing alongside bigger whales

rather than "yep, you suck because you didn't spend"

[sour jay]

Most of my competition has bigger boxes but trash comps

[solemn sage]

just maintaining monthly card long term will put you at huge advantage over f2p

[cinder cargo]

it is only 365 per year though

[solemn sage]

1 more woke per year with your rates

[cinder cargo]

which is like 0.8 wokes. oh ye

[sour jay]

Almost a whole woke ye

[cinder cargo]

considering f2ps already get like 4 free per year

[sour jay]

Plus 12 pet copies and whatever cores

[cinder cargo]

oh yeah I remember why I wanted to do 3:1 TG exchange

[sour jay]

🤡

[cinder cargo]

because I was already almost getting enough to get all the wokes

[polar dune]

Damn @tranquil crane new rem team next week?

[cinder cargo]

so 3:1 exchange with diamonds from cramming would result in an additional woke per year

[sour jay]

Why is flaw named flaw, is this an imposter

[lime zinc]

I think I'll only have enough for 3 this yr

[cinder cargo]

which would bring me a lot closer to total net neutral in wokes

[cinder cargo]

same

[solemn sage]

at the cost of celehypos

[cinder cargo]

wait not same, I already have 3 and it's only septemeber

[olive moat]

wrong

[cinder cargo]

no I mean just diamonds from cramming

like strictly limited to 900 per day

[copper sphinx]

I still only have 2 Aw

[cinder cargo]

so ye I guess won't be able to afford more than usual celepos

[olive moat]

In your case you just suck bc you suck

[cinder cargo]

[lime zinc]

I've basically only built 1.5 this yr so far, + the TE I currently have

[solemn sage]

that'd take you most of a year just to get your initial 5* woke

[cinder cargo]

not really

5* from 1* is just 12 more copies

[solemn sage]

12 copies * 40 gazers per copy * 500 diamonds per gaze divided by 900 diamonds per day

266 days

[cinder cargo]

oh

hmm

sorry remembered wrong. 0.4 wokes per year from just cramming diamonds*

[olive moat]

It would take you 800 days to fully build a woke 3-to-1 if you only spend 900 diamonds a day

[solemn sage]

then another 66 days per 3 copies to exchange

[cinder cargo]

but I wasn't accounting for TV then

[sour jay]

Still no TV this season, it seems like big gaps between

[cinder cargo]

but the problem with that is I'm exchanging tier 2 celepos for tier 3 awakeneds

[olive moat]

OK so that's plus 7000 diamonds/month since you'll obviously get 4th every time

[cinder cargo]

tier 2 as in not super meta, but good (eg. lucillia)

[cinder cargo]

tier 3 as in not even that good, just ok (e.g. maetria/olgath now)

now is it worth to exchange 3 lucilla tier celepos for 1 maetria tier woke?

probably not. Which is why I'm not doing the 3:1 thing

[solemn sage]

olgath is weird

started out as kinda trash

then mae made him good

[olive moat]

I think you should exchange daemia Bert and alna for talene

[cinder cargo]

I think I'll pass on that offer, ty for offering though