treasure-scramble

[cinder willow]

Why ldv

[oak yarrow]

Don’t have anything that makes sense there till Mulan

[proven hearth]

Someone’s done work against Ghibly in his path

[cinder willow]

Tamrus yenn Astar Mulan anasta

[cinder willow]

He’s f2p now right

[oak yarrow]

No mulan

[cinder willow]

Use any of them

[oak yarrow]

Oh

[proven hearth]

He was almost 100 points ahead yesterday

[cinder willow]

He got chopped down

[proven hearth]

Yeah, that’s what I meant

[cinder willow]

braindeadFinch is top2 now but he’s messed up so bad

[cinder willow]

Emi back mid

[cinder willow]

Did I tell you about finch I found out from atr0 what happened

[oak yarrow]

Swolise comp look Ight or switch Bert back in?

[cinder willow]

When is Bert 1*

[oak yarrow]

Can’t do shit abt rem job that team been sucking from the beginning

[oak yarrow]

In one copy

[cinder willow]

Rcl is BIS on remjob, can use palmer or Astar on Solise until Bert is 1* use palmer on Abel when you’re on t5 I’d say

SI30 big on Bert for damage

[oak yarrow]

Ye I was holding off on Abel as long as possible rcl in rem job did significantly worse then lion tho

[cinder willow]

Maybe because you lack saf but rcl works better for me too so idk

[oak yarrow]

Bert 27100 will be 30330 within a week or so

[oak yarrow]

Saf huge difference from wat I’ve seen but I’m debating building her or Alyca

[cinder willow]

When you get later on split athalia from burst add tamrus there instead

Saf is super strong across all game modes I read the wyca skills Royce sent me and she looks good aswell if that’s the actual abilities

Mulan x vei kinda build if it’s true

I got 650 cards so I got one in the bag easy

[oak yarrow]

I read the skills too sounds super good tbh

[oak yarrow]

Split her to where dims?

[cinder willow]

Could run a dims w Bert

Then run invade with Brutus or add him to stall

Kinda wants Mulan for invade Bis though but could work a little in t7

[sour jay]

Am I going insane or are pets not saving properly in ts

I swear to God I changed it several times and it's still not there

[cinder willow]

You’re going insane I think

[oak yarrow]

No luci tho would it work?

[polar dune]

every guild is tired of that

[old fog]

which skills

[polar dune]

but its a dog game , really about who has the bigger dog

[gilded salmon]

Meanwhile im here with a cat

[solid monolith]

yeah, but most guilds dont have weirdos who make alts to shit talk my members about it cause theyre pussies

[cinder willow]

Can fill w other Joan etc

[rich tree]

Meanwhile I’m here with Covid

[polar dune]

happen , no matter what you do

ur toxic one way or another

[native sundial]

Wth bro

[cinder willow]

Bedo aarhalia Joan Bert Merlin for example could work perhaps

[oak yarrow]

Joan in rem job

[polar dune]

viable alternative if u dont have awaken

[olive moat]

Those are probably not real

[cinder willow]

Idk if there’s point using orthos here when you have cruke and athalia

[native sundial]

Wtf with all these defeats

[oak yarrow]

Orthos works rly well in hoe so idk

[cinder willow]

Every 200 points you vs better people it’s like divisions 200poijts so when you get 3200 etc you have a lose streak for a bit

[cinder willow]

Hoe debuff is like ice somewhat

You can try it but idk

Could work potentially

[native sundial]

So its normal ?

[cinder willow]

Primo had the same thing

[old fog]

it’s alright i’ve had a headache for 3 days and i’ve got a god damn runny nose now too

[cinder willow]

It happens sometimes

[flat tapir]

what guild are u in?

[rich tree]

I’m in the chill and overheat phase with headache

Sleeping is so uncomfortable

[flat tapir]

my lungs hurt today kind of sucks

not rly sure why, maybe its not even my lungs but my sides or some shit

[native sundial]

Dam ill never get t100

[flat tapir]

maybe allergies

[cinder willow]

Just whale it

[cinder willow]

I drop at 200 gap aswell so it’s normal like when I hit top20 I lose alot because I can’t compete there

[flat tapir]

same here lol

[fair rapids]

Just woke up what's that

[flat tapir]

its a garbage event

io dont think its worth it at all

[cinder willow]

It happens you’ll naturally go back to your proper ranks across the 50 battles

[flat tapir]

but i dont think anyone has numbers for it yet

[cinder willow]

No clue looks complicated those abilities so could be a thing similar to saf but who knows

[flat tapir]

esp with new power creep coming idek if i wanna spend diamonds like that anymore

[olive moat]

New opportunity for u to throw ur money into a burning dumpster

[flat tapir]

potato, do uhave numbers for it?

what board is worth it?

[sour jay]

First page will likely be decent if we get a free hit every day, otherwise kinda shit

[old fog]

mf it’s been out for 3 hours

[cinder willow]

I just did 3rd board for diamonds

[olive moat]

Bad event waste of time

[sour jay]

Rest looks like kraken for me

[flat tapir]

its been out on test for days @old fog noob

[sour jay]

Ok so it's all shit

[cinder willow]

Don’t be rude to nitro

That’s my guy

[flat tapir]

hes not ur guy

prove it

[proven hearth]

No, you didn’t

[flat tapir]

im still rank 37 somehow in TS with a 53% wr

[old fog]

oh true

[cinder willow]

That’s my guy

[old fog]

THATS MY GUY QUAKIE ILY BRO

[fair rapids]

Looked at it don't think fits my budget also not crazy value

[flat tapir]

ok quakie i am mistaken, hes also my guy since hes on my FL also

[cinder willow]

I’ll send the SS in dms 4am cba to type

[flat tapir]

how am i rank 37 with 53% wr

i guess it kind of makes sense

[fair rapids]

Doubt I win spice so I aint gambling

[flat tapir]

im legit 2 spaces left in melodic rewards

i need to check rn when it resets actually lmao

8d20h so im fine lul

[proven hearth]

How many records have you used?

[flat tapir]

i dont kjnow but a lot

i might be on my last one i wont lie

is there a way to see hwo many uve used?

[proven hearth]

Really easy to check. Click the i

[flat tapir]

20

so actually not a lit lol

[proven hearth]

Well, maybe they’ll figure it out?

[flat tapir]

lot * and afk im in a LoL game

[cinder willow]

Who knows they were running waden dims where wutus usually sits so idk if they have the concept

The new num1 is just running meta teams but way less invest then finch

[old fog]

tf is this bro is emi suddenly terrible

[cinder willow]

Even if he copied he’d be top1 by a mile

[proven hearth]

Why LDV

[old fog]

was trying raku ldv-dims clearly it sucks lmao

what should i switch to

[sour jay]

Ldv only usable in green

[old fog]

oh shi rlly

[cinder willow]

Just try some sort of emi stall with seal

[old fog]

i thought he was only bad in ice and fire

[proven hearth]

There’s almost always a bit of a learning curve. I remember when my lc leader account changed hands. We all wondered what happened for a bit

[sour jay]

In green his cannon can sometimes cheese cause of the extra burst

Otherwise he does nothing, can't cc

[old fog]

ah ok ty

[cinder willow]

Yeah time will tell he’s been good in LCT but not been there for TS maybe he’s just not caring about it but idk seems like it would be an ego thing to lose top1 after being there since r39 opened

Some comps are… whacky

[old fog]

what kinda stuff you suggest all i’m used to running is extreme budget thoran stall for t7

[proven hearth]

Ghibly runs these comps in every debuff. It’s a kraken thing, i swear

[cinder willow]

Grez thoran bedo emi joa seal no clue though so budget I can’t understand it

[old fog]

baby ts so tough istg

[cinder willow]

Yeah probably but I’d still think he’d run up to date stuff, he doesn’t even use alna rem

[proven hearth]

That’s fairly new, maybe season before last? He started losing more

[cinder willow]

Yeah like 3 TS cycles I think

[proven hearth]

That Thoran team has been there since day 1, well before seal debuted

[cinder willow]

I understand if he doesn’t react but once you see the rank dropping a lot (he was one rank above me after day 2) you’d think he would Atleast check what’s up to date in leaderboard to fix it quickly

[cinder willow]

Ig fully e80+ let’s you get away w it for the most part

That’s probs finch mentality too

He has like everyone 4036100 so doesn’t matter if it’s not optimal

Until rem job and Dimkids comes along

[oak yarrow]

@cinder willow wat sp for athalia team

[cinder willow]

Solise

[fair rapids]

@spice finch idk Abt stall

Tried many variations

[proven hearth]

Sent you a friend request

[olive moat]

It's up on the sheet u can take a look if u want. Actually better than I thought, 3x3 best board if u still have woke to gaze, using 2x10k Diamond higher value than buying more tries but it sets u back 5k diamond overall lilith waste my damn time, u can only use hammer once

@fair rapids

@krakens

[fair rapids]

[olive moat]

Personally I'll get the $7 and spend 20k

Also this is what is meant by random bs budget allocation . This thing definitely qualify as lilith bs

[cedar copper]

what in god's name is that flora

did u swap her or smth

[fair rapids]

double event
Could be classified as triple

[fair rapids]

What's wrong with flora

[cedar copper]

what isn't wrong with her

[fair rapids]

Lilith with there BS

[fair rapids]

She perfectly normal

[olive moat]

@tranquil crane if u care

[oak yarrow]

Thoughts on these?

Been playing w them

[restive goblet]

Doe Ivan need e30

[fair rapids]

t4

[indigo quail]

how to kill r6 nc

[rich tree]

Ira

[abstract storm]

Brute force it

Also Aefryn, what was your NC speed this week?

[cedar copper]

it's extra stats so yes

e40 ish

[oak yarrow]

Yes I see it a lot

[cedar copper]

I'm unsure if slotting aw Thalia in that stall comp is a good idea

[rich tree]

5:38

[abstract storm]

Can I copy you 🫣

[rich tree]

This was with trial luci so your going to need to merc someone if you’re not built

[abstract storm]

[rich tree]

I’ll post in nihil, improvement is vei instead of Silas in r5. Move Silas to r1 or 2

[oak yarrow]

Seen it quite a few times and always beats me so giving it a shot

[rich tree]

Posted in nihi nc

[oak yarrow]

@cedar copper

[pulsar cove]

I thought I hated frost but I changed my mind I hate smog

[rich tree]

Same

[pulsar cove]

1 yes and 2 it’s too early for Abel

[abstract storm]

Thank you, I'll try it after mercing Luci 🫡

[rich tree]

Np, back to fighting Covid

[thin ermine]

anyone have any clue how the ice thingy works with using 10k diamonds and opening a slot?

im very tempted to get that one spice or the two red furns

[olive moat]

U gotta clear the whole board to get the spice/red card

[thin ermine]

i thought i could just hammer it

i can only hammer the top layer then? and get 15k diamonds?

[olive moat]

U can't hammer anything along the right or bottom edge. Those are like reward for getting bingo on that row/column. Bottom right cell is reward for getting ultra-bingo, which is bingo on the bingo cells, ie clear out the board

[thin ermine]

I’m just gonna keep my diamonds then ugh

[olive moat]

This event waste of time

[thin ermine]

Thx for telling me. Looked so confusing

[olive moat]

I actually thought the event could be decent bc $7 and 5k diamond for 18 tg, 2k poe is actually quite good but turns out u can't use the hammer more than once

[thin ermine]

It’s a waste of time….I was hoping I can hammer through too

[oak yarrow]

Whales

[flat tapir]

no1 with an average IQ

is doing that event cause its not worth it

even if ur a whale, do u know how many diamonds that is lol

unless ur dumb enough to buy the scrolls

[old fog]

i hate both bro now my nihi joining is gonna be delayed for at least another week

and if i can’t get 1% in green or red then i’ll have to wait even longer

terrible

[oak yarrow]

@old fog how’s HoE going

[old fog]

chilling dia 3 after getting pushed up while i was asleep

i’m getting bumped between high gold low dia rn

[oak yarrow]

Edited my teams for hoe and they doing amazing on defense swolise team hasn’t lost yet

Happy w em glad I put Bert in dims works way better than swolise comp

[restive goblet]

I wonder if Tamrus would be better than Albedo here

at 5 teams

[oak yarrow]

Wats ur Tamrus at

Also yenn e60 over emi e60?

[old fog]

man i want cool teams like that mine look so scrappy

[oak yarrow]

They got a long way to go

[old fog]

mf you ain’t seen mine

[restive goblet]

Tamrus is 309e60
Yen was e60 before Emilia even came out i think and I was starved for TS carries

[oak yarrow]

[oak yarrow]

Tamrus free from other comps?

[fair rapids]

@golden lantern

[oak yarrow]

@fair rapids is good?

[fair rapids]

Bro whaled his Merlin so he could win

[fair rapids]

His Merlin was 200
Now 309

[oak yarrow]

Rip

My Bert 27130

[fair rapids]

27

[cedar copper]

it's still incredibly small

not even 5*

[oak yarrow]

Yes my current si build rn

[fair rapids]

Why si 27

[oak yarrow]

Cuz I ran outta chests

[fair rapids]

I only up when I can take to 30nto avoid that

[oak yarrow]

Fuck it

[cedar copper]

he had to pay rent
those 3 levels went into that emergency expense

[fair rapids]

[oak yarrow]

Gets done either way lol

I can e30 Ldv Rosa or queen which one?

[cedar copper]

ldv I guess
gets haste e33

[oak yarrow]

Word

[fair rapids]

Yea do e33 LDV

Smoku will thank you

[oak yarrow]

Exactly wat I was gonna say he been waiting on me to finish him

[lime zinc]

don't be me, remember to e36 LDV

[old fog]

any of you guys wanna take up my account for a couple days? got school camp and no phones

[cedar copper]

what's 36 for

[old fog]

dm me :)

[cedar copper]

insight?
I think I did that but well it's PvP focus

[cedar copper]

how big is your rem

[old fog]

208e44

[oak yarrow]

Tried Ldv in pvp let’s say it didn’t go well

[old fog]

i could card but prolly not worth

[oak yarrow]

Ldv?

[lime zinc]

LDV isn't used in PvP
Insight is important for PvP anyway

[old fog]

rem

[olive moat]

Mostly anime that I don't know in that player survey

[oak yarrow]

No si 30?

[lime zinc]

What player survey

[old fog]

more important stuff to do, got next woke, daemia and bert to do before rem. and i’m only at 400 ish reds

[cedar copper]

can't be real
he's literally in my PvP Def and offense !!

[oak yarrow]

@olive moat wats the nodes for whalthalia

[lime zinc]

[cedar copper]

yeah so anyways why would insight matter if not used in pvp

[lime zinc]

Insight is for CR

[olive moat]

It was asking how excited I'd be for various Dim collabs. U didn't get it guess I'm more important

[cedar copper]

oh

alright that makes sense
forgot that other pve game modes can have those stats

[lime zinc]

I think some of the surveys are rng whether you get asked

[olive moat]

Hmm no I will choose to believe that I am simply better than you

[lime zinc]

wrng

[cedar copper]

may not be wrong

[oak yarrow]

@cedar copper do yk the nodes for whalthalia?

[olive moat]

Anyway I answered "I don't know the source material" for pretty much all of them

[lime zinc]

[cedar copper]

nope
don't have her yet

[sterile zinc]

[solemn sage]

all of them

[cedar copper]

no scratch that ,won't have her.

[oak yarrow]

Kroyce do yk?

[oak yarrow]

Wont?

[lime zinc]

Perp knows them

[solemn sage]

I e60 all awakeneds

[cedar copper]

yeah I doubt I will ever get to building her

[oak yarrow]

I thought it stoped at e6x?

[solemn sage]

but she has double crit nodes and a CDA node so probably those

I don't go past e60

[cedar copper]

for now my next targets are wooden then materia or someone else

[old fog]

is ldv worth carding to 9f hes at 6 and i’ve got 4 cards

[oak yarrow]

Not worth thought sum heros needed it?

[cedar copper]

he's massive for pve

[solemn sage]

no hero needs to go past e60

[cedar copper]

should be massive for cr too that's a major dmg taken debuff

[oak yarrow]

Tell that to my e80 thane

[cedar copper]

ok whale

[solemn sage]

past e60 is for AE optimization or whale shit

[lime zinc]

Your e80 thane doesn't need to be over e60

[oak yarrow]

This isn’t f2p chat?

[solemn sage]

or back in the day, for luc campaign

[oak yarrow]

Was best for when he released

[olive moat]

Nah

[cedar copper]

ferret can attest with his e100 luc

[lime zinc]

Ferret's a kraken anyway

[oak yarrow]

Don’t forget krally and Draken

[solemn sage]

The problem with going past e60 is it's so expensive and every hero eventually falls off

[oak yarrow]

That’s true damn

[solemn sage]

like sure some heroes are still used 2 years later but they're rarely the primary part of the team anymore

[cedar copper]

even thoran? :pippaga:

[solemn sage]

thoran doesn't need core investment to work

and he's trash in most modes still

only pvp and campaign/tower

skippable in pvp

you can make stall work without him

[cedar copper]

wu kong stall it is then

[fair rapids]

[solemn sage]

I'll probably e80 some awakeneds eventually

but I'll wait to 5* them first

[old fog]

man i guess i js have to wait

[restive goblet]

Yeah I have thane and Atha together.

For team 5 I’m using Seal cruke/Brutus/thoran/Mulan and either flora or tamrus

[oak yarrow]

Tamrus

[solemn sage]

I don't actually have too many e60s I regret

normal thane probably the big one

[oak yarrow]

Ainz my only regrettable e60

[solemn sage]

drez and antandra got a ton of use

ainz too

thane e60 was only relevant for like 2 months

[umbral orbit]

Abelinda needs that extra dmg node

no point in going to e60 without the node

[solemn sage]

my abel's done fine with flat e60

[umbral orbit]

tahts what i been told at least by dragon

[oak yarrow]

My Abel shows zero difference and she e69 she still getting a 36% wr

[restive goblet]

every single node on her is relevant ish for pvp

[solemn sage]

I mean her e60 skill is mostly meaningless so there's not much point in taking her to e60 if not going past it

but I just want to have red stars on all my awakeneds

[restive goblet]

Pr and Mr and tenacity and cbr etc

[restive goblet]

🤝

[solemn sage]

Adding an extra level on PR/MR nodes is negligible, it's only +0.91

not worth 300 cores

[cedar copper]

taking dran advice

his roaster is e80s all around

[restive goblet]

I meant the extra nodes to get to e60 from e48 or whatever

[solemn sage]

oh yeah, minor nodes are worth it there

but I'd stop at e50 if not for red star flexing

[cedar copper]

red stars do look so good on her

wish the colours were gradient for that reason

[tranquil crane]

[cedar copper]

ouch

[tranquil crane]

Okay I take it back, my burst is a good boy.

[solemn sage]

yesterday I was 10th-18th

today I didn't change teams and have dropped to 30th

[tranquil crane]

💀

[cedar copper]

fighting all the krakens in the world
honestly a good standing considering that

[tranquil crane]

Yeah my win rate is trash compared to yesterday too, not sure if its just bracket or everyone else fixing their comps

[solemn sage]

day 4 is weird day to fix comps

lazy people usually wait til day 5

[tranquil crane]

A lot of people in my region copy me, so there's a delay between me showing my comps and them switching. They message me asking about subs

[cedar copper]

excuse me good sir would u kindly inform me of substitutes in these teams so I could beat you?

[tranquil crane]

🫡

[valid grail]

new stargaze priority says healus/ luci/ cruke

whats the pros and cons for each? and which shld i go next if im TS focus?

[tranquil crane]

thats outdated imo

unless you already have bert

[cedar copper]

those are not the top 3

that's the 2nd row
4th and down

[valid grail]

yea i have all before them

[tranquil crane]

ah kk

[cedar copper]

I'm not that experienced with PvP so I will refrain

[tranquil crane]

imo luci is important for supporting bert in many comps

i would do luci over haelus myself

ive heard people say haelus is falling off, im not good at reading the meta like that but maybe reach out to folks to get an idea how people are feeling about him and why before building hae

here's one recent example of someone saying hae is falling off:

#treasure-scramble message

[valid grail]

okk then cruke? isnt he usually built tgt with mae in the same comp

[tranquil crane]

#treasure-scramble message Another example

cruke is used elsewhere like asol comps

its between orthros tarnos and cruke for frontline in that comp

and of those i think tarnos is the lowest priority to build

[solemn sage]

lol

[valid grail]

and im guessing in few more celehypo releases, hae & cruke will prob drop more but luci shld stay more relevant bcuz of bert comps

[tranquil crane]

yeah i agree with this. also is your account into CR yet? because you could consider focusing CR invests over pvp if so

[solemn sage]

trials already gone

RIP f2ps

[valid grail]

lel all low prior celehypos

[tranquil crane]

mean XD

[valid grail]

im still diamond in CR and NC, so im focusing on TS T100 rn

hopefully r46 lets me into t100 if im lucky

[tranquil crane]

hmm what are the places people use cruke outside of mae and asol comps

[solemn sage]

cruke can flex into any team that needs a tank

[tranquil crane]

he's an excellent frontline tank in general yeah

[restive goblet]

he’s pretty decent in seal stall

[tranquil crane]

[valid grail]

hmm luci>cruke>hae seems best for me but def getting to a point whr i shld hoard SG and diamonds till next release alr

[solemn sage]

new powercreep is gonna eat diamonds apparently

[valid grail]

i heard its some artifact with random stats BS

[flat tapir]

ye ill prob quit

[solemn sage]

yeah that's all the info we have

[valid grail]

will be in this year?

[flat tapir]

if its like genshin impact

[solemn sage]

no specifics yet

[solemn sage]

most likely

pets were added last september

[valid grail]

damn time to save diamonds then

[solemn sage]

they've always done a powercreep every year

[cedar copper]

all the Luci simps panicking not finding any free Bert to borrow

always thought he was mid so these are good news

[flat tapir]

swap scroll doesnt let u swap celepogs right

[tranquil crane]

correct

[cedar copper]

no

[flat tapir]

ok that scroll is so fucking useless

[cedar copper]

it's for mistakes

[flat tapir]

i might just swap my ascended lyca to something

if its alyca

[cedar copper]

only 4f regular heroes

[flat tapir]

diamonds is probably the worst possible resource they could make it right

they should just give it, its own resources. no?

who the fuck has a ton of diamonds sitting unless ur acc is maxed

[solemn sage]

old accounts who don't gaze for stars

once you have all the important gaze heroes at 1* you build up diamonds

[lime zinc]

All the people that leave midgame should be saving up dia for when they can actually gaze something

[solemn sage]

unless blowing them on store

I gazed bert + lucilla and already back up to 50k diamonds

[restive goblet]

I have like 300k diamonds I was thinking about blowing to get the portraits for both twins but I guess I’ll hold them

I’ll just use whatever I need to finish Bert after using gazers and wait on Luci

[thin ermine]

i blowed em for both. at almost 30k now....hopefully ill save up enough for next hero

[cedar copper]

Luci mid anuways

[solemn sage]

I think she's kinda slept on because bert's so busted

she's not bert tier but she's quite good

[tranquil crane]

I think she's extremely strong within certain niches. I have a mae/luci/seal comp that reliably busts god comp at equal invest (doesn't use bert)

those two revive each other for days

[solemn sage]

Yeah having revives means she'll likely be a relevant tank for a long time

[lime zinc]

SI20 and 3F give a lot of buffs, she would've been good in CR even without Lib

[tranquil crane]

and for krakens I think she should scale unusually well into deep invest, since she double dips on stats by both taking them from enemies and granting them to allies

[solemn sage]

We have to make bob do a deep dive and figure out how often she's actually capping her attribute stealing

invest doesn't matter if she isn't hitting the cap

though I guess at high deficit she insta hits it

[lime zinc]

Isn't her purple bar the attributes sealed

[tranquil crane]

💯

[tranquil crane]

from my replays im not seeing her hitting cap in dimkids in current TS or HoE, gets a lot closer in LC (enemy: godcomp), so maybe she's not really double dipping much on stats in pvp

ill check CR/NC replays later

right now I am lamenting the passing of the torch to the next generation of bigger krakens

[restive goblet]

Variety

[tranquil crane]

💀

[tranquil crane]

luci looks to hit stat cap in about 30 seconds in my CR replays

with my luci at 1 star 309e60

[proven vault]

Yeah we’re already friends
Sent a request for Bert

[tranquil crane]

huh okay her bar doesn't even fill in NC

that's unfortunate

it fills like 20% and then never goes higher

so I guess chonk luci is mainly a CR invest

[lime zinc]

Well she's important to strip the heal shields of Puppet

[tranquil crane]

👍

yeah i was just checking where her stat cap is actually relevant

and it seems like its not a factor in most pvp

[lime zinc]

I didn't expect her to be that useful in pvp, outside of Lib synergy
Her S2 has a pretty quick stun though

[fair rapids]

I'm debating moving Silas to burst for extra dmg who should I swap in his place JOA or yen?
Both 203

[solemn sage]

So

I'm rank 32 in TS

[fair rapids]

[solemn sage]

rank 3 in my region has exact same teams as me, but his awakeneds are 5* e80

[lime zinc]

Wdym extra dmg
Silas would be reducing the team's dmg

[fair rapids]

His si 30 with them at high HP he gives allies increase attack rating right or did I miss read that

[lime zinc]

Aliens

[fair rapids]

[lime zinc]

He'd be less dmg than a normal burst hero I mean

[solemn sage]

A non-silas burst team will just kill your silas

rendering his SI irrelevant

[fair rapids]

Icic

[solemn sage]

and the other burst heroes also provide their own damage or cc

silas isn't that good in teams where he's not getting a chance to ult

[fair rapids]

That makes since I'll leave him in remjob

Idk how to make my atha burst/invade bs better

[solemn sage]

you don't

it's simply not a good team compared to remjob/dims/seal stall this debuff

[old fog]

any of you guys wanna take up my account for a couple days? got school camp and no phones

[fair rapids]

Sure

[solemn sage]

current meta has two completely busted teams, one pretty good team, and everything else is significantly worse

[old fog]

all i need is dailies and whatever obvious stuff there is

[cedar copper]

this guy

[fair rapids]

Sure

[cedar copper]

I sent u a DM asking an hour ago

[old fog]

oh shit rlly

oh it didn’t show the noti i’m so sorry

[solemn sage]

burst will have alright winrate later on when it's beating other peoples 5th/6th/7th teams

[old fog]

sorry dragon someone got there before you

[fair rapids]

That's fine idm

[worldly belfry]

shtty dim team

[solemn sage]

let's get weird

[old fog]

what da poowater

[solemn sage]

curious if atalene full team shield will let me ramp fast

[cedar copper]

team 3 looks clean

all 1* 309 all e60

ought to have 30% at minimum just for aesthetics

speaking of Mae
her sp skill says the current faction bonus applies alongside her passive so does that mean that full hypo team is getting double the hypo buffs?

[solemn sage]

yes

[cedar copper]

incredible

[solemn sage]

though in this debuff nobody gets any faction buffs

[cedar copper]

ah right

[old fog]

smog sux

[cedar copper]

ofc I knew that !

[old fog]

green and red best

[solemn sage]

actually

considering no faction buffs, I should put awthalia there instead of aezizh

or abrutus

[fair rapids]

This than Mae stall for 5 teams

[old fog]

man i need so much furn on people

[solemn sage]

thoran mae stall is the current 3rd best team

way better than burst right now

[old fog]

is tamtam usable at 203

[solemn sage]

what is luc doing in there

[fair rapids]

I've tried many things with that stall I can't get it to work

[fair rapids]

Lyon said try it

[fair rapids]

Oh let me throw my maxed wutus in there

[solemn sage]

also small cruke might not be usable

[fair rapids]

Yea he to small I think he groups a tad tho

[solemn sage]

every cruke upgrade is decent

and sum of all the parts is huge

[cedar copper]

he's what mezthos wished he was

[thin ermine]

Kraken accounts r sold for so cheap now….I spent a lot more than the selling price of kraken accounts…..

[solemn sage]

always have been

[thin ermine]

[old fog]

time to buy

[thin ermine]

Never thought it can be this cheap

[solemn sage]

buying big accounts has always been way cheaper than investing your own account to that point

pennies on the dollar

[old fog]

nah the grind for cool stuff is better than just having cool stuff

[thin ermine]

Like $500…..that’s way too cheap ugh

Makes me wanna quit spending even more

[old fog]

what else can i run in extreme budget wathalia burst? i’ve got atha, lyca and tamtam so far, anything else? was thinking maybe mishka and silas or something like that

[thin ermine]

I’ve run some fun stuff before. Mishka def works

[solemn sage]

at extreme budget you're probably low rank so literally any 4 heroes and awthalia will carry

[old fog]

could mae work or something like that? got a copy from scrolls yesterday

[solemn sage]

single mae copy not really useful in this debuff

[old fog]

last few TS i’ve gotten 2-3% pretty consistently

[solemn sage]

her main use at single copy is for her SP but that doesn't work here

[old fog]

not this debuff, trying to plan ahead for green

yeah ik how her sp works

[solemn sage]

and her SP doesn't work with awthalia so I'd put her elsewhere in green

[old fog]

ah ok got it

should’ve read more closely i saw “teammates regarded as hypos” and “buff” and left it at that lol

[solemn sage]

yeah it's only 4Fs

[old fog]

[solemn sage]

and other hypos

[old fog]

what else would work in there then? i can send box if you want

[solemn sage]

The three you've got are fine, lorsan probably good, eorin if you've got him

mulan

[old fog]

yeah my eorin is tiny but i can pop him in

[earnest tendon]

Who would u build first dae or bert?

If u needed to choose

[cedar copper]

Bert for campaign carrying sounds good

are u late in the game

[earnest tendon]

Dae more of a pvp and bosses i would assume

Its not for me i have dae already

[cedar copper]

starting out Bert is better

[thorny tartan]

Tough choice. Dae can work by herself basically everywhere. Bert can carry early campaign but for nc etc he usually wants luci I think

[earnest tendon]

Either way u cant go wrong with either at least

[thorny tartan]

Really depends on the circumstances yeah. Starting out? Bert. Already mid game? Dae I think

[cedar copper]

Luci wasn't used on his team last NC round
he can work there solo just fine

[earnest tendon]

[spice finch]

[old fog]

[cinder cargo]

What?

[indigo quail]

what

[old fog]

zingles

[old fog]

anyone feel like making me some rift teams i js hit 5 teams and idk what to do

[tender arch]

hmmmm. top 3%

[indigo quail]

u running 2022 meta comps

[queen crystal]

you should ditch lucy and move Alna into gbs

run rock liz with abel

[old fog]

why is the whole of this discord dead af bro

[cedar copper]

I too am surprised that boy didn't outdamge bel

[tender arch]

cant be helped lol. im so behind on heroes

[tender arch]

rcl is lvl6 so not a good idea

[abstract storm]

I think most active people on the discord are NA, early morning for them, so a lot less active

[old fog]

makes sense i will just have to patiently wait

[cedar copper]

NA suck

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-kyle-kuzma-coolsville-gif-18551603

[indigo quail]

bcs u quitting or hiding in the darkness

[tender arch]

niether. i just choose to summon for specific heroes at the worst of times

[indigo quail]

[tender arch]

i dont actually remember when i started summons on haelus. i remember starting during veis release i think. idk. i also didnt get my first 1* awakened until swolise was released

[lime zinc]

I'm sure this guy's E80 Thoran stood a chance against me

[tender arch]

any thing i can change?

[golden lantern]

[golden lantern]

he wants it so bad

[spice finch]

draken bullied him enough

[old fog]

yes

[fair rapids]

Ik bro buffed up his Merlin and he can't even win 100% of the time

[old fog]

anything i should change t3 and 4 are both doing pretty shit

[cinder cargo]

most meta team of the century lost to my random crappy abelinda at a power deficit

[tranquil crane]

yeah that seems like it should be a super low % outcome, id be curious what would happen if you ran it back 10 times or similar 🤔

I'm not understanding how your comp survived long enough to work past the cheat deaths lol

even if you have a lot of dps between abel and kid I'd have expected them all to just get slaughtered too fast

[lime zinc]

Idk how they could even lose with the wrong SP set

[tranquil crane]

cuz HoE > TS

[old fog]

HoE is bald

[tranquil crane]

im at the point where all my opponents are level 320+

[golden lantern]

what’s some good f2p HoE comps

[tranquil crane]

also you're already over on nihi discord, current event chat been popping all morning~

[old fog]

yeah but i don’t know most of the people there and it feels weird talking while not even being in any of the guilds yet

[tranquil crane]

[cinder cargo]

I think it's because of the HoE debuff

so my team was able to survive for free

[tranquil crane]

oh shit i should have looked at the levels

yeah okay that makes way more sense, I assumed it was TS cuz... TS chat

[solemn sage]

mobile game discords tend to be dead on weekends

people fuck around on discord while slacking off at school/work

[lime zinc]

I sleep all day on the weekend

[worthy rapids]

[spice finch]

[worthy rapids]

this is so wrong

[spice finch]

where t4

[worthy rapids]

brutus without merlin is so bad

[native sundial]

Ok i need help asap with these teams …

[flat tapir]

grinded so much LoL today but only up 30 lp

[worthy rapids]

ew

[flat tapir]

time to check afk arena i wonder if im still top 50 and i need to check HoE

[mossy bridge]

i was busy all weekend and did like only the daily free hoe fights but I somehow have the 50 victories quest done. gaming

[flat tapir]

43 not bad

ive lost my last 10 defense fights in a row

not having remilia really fucks u hard in HoE lmfao

[flat tapir]

i for sure have more meta heroes built than the people beating me. at least most of them. yet i lose cus of no remilia

[tranquil crane]

at this point rem is the bigger issue in the pvp meta

emilia is a flex slot in dimkids

god comp simply cant exist without rem >_>

[flat tapir]

yep

its just like emilia is really strong too alone

i dont have dims so thats the bigger issue

im stronger than some older regions top 50s

like ive beaten r43 top 50 players

[tranquil crane]

👍

[flat tapir]

so its really just dims im assuming

yeah idk how i beat them, maybe their teams werent set

[worthy rapids]

i want seal 9 already

[tranquil crane]

a lot of people are running stuff that doesn't work at all in this HoE debuff like burst

[flat tapir]

So cringe

why couldnt it have been another abel. i have 1 abel from random summons

[tender arch]

yall think i should 9f dae? i can card it

[flat tapir]

if i got another abel, i wouldve gazed another star on her

[worthy rapids]

i still dont have 2lene or baden

[flat tapir]

i have 2 copies of abaden 2 copies of asolise 1s abel with an extra copy Despair

[worthy rapids]

i want 2lene cus shes better for cele tower than some random E dae

[flat tapir]

good night guys

have to wake up early to grind league

[worthy rapids]

[tender arch]

wierdo - gn

[tranquil crane]

godspeed 🫡

[tender arch]

?

im only asking here since more experienced people are generally here so

[native sundial]

Maybe i should change to Alna abel ?

[tranquil crane]

I'm not a good priorities person but it might depend how fast you can have bert, cuz I'd rate his furn over dae's personally

[sour jay]

Alna Abel sucks

You'd kill rem just to get slightly better belinda

[flat tapir]

b4 i sleep who would u replace alna with for abel comp

[native sundial]

Yea but look at my teams … thay ate failing

[tender arch]

bert is L rn. i dont see him at 1* for give or take 2 months maybe

[tranquil crane]

[flat tapir]

i have alna 1 abel 2 ivan palmer raine

[tender arch]

so i guess we will do dae then. ive heard that her 9f is huge so

[sour jay]

Rem can't exist without alna

She goes splat

[native sundial]

I had to drop Ainz and replace with Asolise and built a new scarlet team …

Its gonna fail but what else can i do

[sour jay]

Start whaling

[tranquil crane]

lmao this channel is poison for f2p/low spenders...

we need to pin a warning

[lime zinc]

Yeah, eye poison

[sour jay]

I feel bad for ppl who got trapped by solise

Big disadvantage

[spice finch]

yea, need to pin choerry's message

[native sundial]

😢

[worthy rapids]

i hope merlin will untrap my brutus once i get him working

[spice finch]

how can this suck so much

[native sundial]

It shouldn’t …

Idk whats going on rly … i had a very big loose streak fromt95 to 3%

[spice finch]

[native sundial]

Literally i lost all matches

[proven hearth]

Sent

[spice finch]

this is so dumb

[proven vault]

[tender arch]

damn i feel like #classic-questions get so awkward sometimes

[worthy rapids]

asaf is bursting more than the burstiest hero in this game

[spice finch]

ye

i guess asaf bs is a thing

i'm gonna stack athalia team more and see what happens

[worthy rapids]

im trying mishka instead of L thane

[spice finch]

L thane seemed good

[worthy rapids]

but ill swap this back probably cus i need mishka for scar

[spice finch]

i put mulan there now

[sour jay]

Looks like dragon comps

[spice finch]

i feel offended

[worthy rapids]

abel without red star is so ugly

[lime zinc]

Tbh, seeing a single yellow star is even more ugly

[cinder willow]

im seeing people copy my wutus team alot now in my region ;-;

[worthy rapids]

emi with tamrus is so weird

cus tamrus cant pull frozen heroes

[sour jay]

Ngl when I see a single yellow star I think it's white first

[cinder willow]

the buffs is the main reason

[lime zinc]

Oh I meant 'a single' as in any

[cinder willow]

mulan x tamrus then CC from emi brutus

[worthy rapids]

i need merlinnnnnnnnnnn

[sour jay]

Good thing emi barely freezes in pvp

[lime zinc]

Because it's so weird to see not E30s

[sour jay]

Must be nice to have enough shards to e30 everyone

[cinder willow]

he started using it but with ivan instead of emi which i tried in a previous round

[lime zinc]

It's awful, because that's the lowest budget minimum

[spice finch]

must be nice being a whale, s1x

[sour jay]

I have 14 heros e30 or higher rn

[cinder willow]

still getting dunked on

[lime zinc]

Six: Talking about weak f2ps
celowz:

[spice finch]

[solemn sage]

I have 41 heroes that aren't e30+

[cinder willow]

well thats simply not good enough

[lime zinc]

I've prob only got like 40-50 or so e30s or higher

[solemn sage]

running out of useful heroes to throw shards at

[lime zinc]

Does Khaz have any haste nodes

Haste or IS could help his seal rounds a tiny bit ig

[solemn sage]

he has one

[mossy bridge]

and here I am desperate for shards

[solemn sage]

and one IS

[sour jay]

I'm desperate for everything

I'm never gonna +30 Silas at this rate

[lime zinc]

Only took me like 3.5yrs to not always be desperate for everything

[solemn sage]

I apparently still have more SI30s than e30s though

need 41 e30s and 38 SI30s

[cinder willow]

my box is still smol

theres more 4F that are uselss i didnt bother putting on

[lime zinc]

I need to know about whether your Ulmus is A5 SI20 or not

[cinder willow]

i use ulmus as fodder

[sour jay]

Next NC boss needs ulmus to kill

[cinder willow]

its ok

[solemn sage]

Eventually you have excess fodder

[lime zinc]

Idk when exactly but either last yr or late 2021 was when my fodder exceeded my copies

[proven hearth]

Slacker

[cinder willow]

i have excess fodder for LBs but not enough dias to HCP ginneas

[lime zinc]

One day I'll work on Ginneas

[sour jay]

Why would you hcp ginneas

Don't you have better things to do with your dia

[cinder willow]

ya thats what i mean i got stuff i need to do so my fodder is just sittin there

[sour jay]

Lb always swims in fodder

[cinder cargo]

Why abelinda when you can random bs go amirite

[sour jay]

I still don't know why they get an extra fodder hero

Who uses ABelinda in singles anyway

[worthy rapids]

[sour jay]

I thought you're the mauler lover why not ascend a mauler

[spice finch]

ascend maulre 😠

[worthy rapids]

gib 7 worms

[sour jay]

I haven't ascended anything in a while cause I'm saving scrolls

[worthy rapids]

and gib leaves

[gilded salmon]

only thing I'm saving right now is wilder cards

[spice finch]

i've been trying to ascend anythigni can to get more dim keys

[native sundial]

Im lacking fodders and i have so many copies

[sour jay]

btw celowz stall did okay without ivan, 60 % with... lyca

[spice finch]

what was the comp?

[native sundial]

Whats the full comp

[sour jay]

it has mae

[native sundial]

Ah ok dont have her

Will scarlet ulti without rowan ? Just with lyca numishu and mishka

[spice finch]

you engraved tamrus

[sour jay]

yeah he has 9f

[spice finch]

so you're skipping silas again

[sour jay]

well I'll have to +30 the woke I pull soon

and then prob silas before tamrus ... if something else doesn't come up

so far I've meant to do silas but had to do mae, ivan, liberta, and new woke instead

[cinder cargo]

Sorry sir what is a Rosa rowan mehira cycle

[olive moat]

No dupes?

[sour jay]

not yet

[cinder cargo]

bert + mehira = literally perma cc

like where the energy even coming from

[sour jay]

bert gives ridiculous amounts of energy

[fair rapids]

Work over

Scrumble soon

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

How did you teams do hurry send ss

[worthy rapids]

@spice finch

[spice finch]

oh no

[fair rapids]

Same Abel and burst WR as me

[cinder willow]

i sent HoE guide in Nihi if anyone needs

[spice finch]

i'm gonna try this next

[fair rapids]

My stall did so shit celo

[cinder cargo]

blame nerds

it's always his fault

[spice finch]

how bad was it

[fair rapids]

27%

[cinder willow]

mines ok

[fair rapids]

37*

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

I'ma slap it in at 5 teams

[native sundial]

How to get more poe ? I dont wanna waste events but i rly miss a lot

[cinder willow]

store

TR

[spice finch]

store, tr, nc

[fair rapids]

SCRUMBLE STARTING FOR EVERYONE BUT R44

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

R44 SCRUMBLE STARTING SOON (20 MINS)

[worthy rapids]

im getting farmed

[mossy bridge]

scrongle time

[spice finch]

[mossy bridge]

lucretia has become my worst team in late ch37 i think liberta is gonna be the way to go for new ppl for sure

[fair rapids]

Couldn't be me 🥱

[worthy rapids]

[fair rapids]

These chest make me question everything I rly want shards but I also want poe

[spice finch]

fucking draken

[cinder willow]

im just being a red chest hoe

[spice finch]

that's why i never open them

[gilded salmon]

I took cores even though I want to be a poe hoe so bad

[gilded salmon]

yeah but you're literally insane so

[spice finch]

it lies, i had to open 3 to e60 bert

[sour jay]

i open them right away so I'm not tempted to take poe instead of cores

[gilded salmon]

lmao

[fair rapids]

Why did I garrison queen over renew my yen.....

[native sundial]

Im starting to get dissapointed

[worthy rapids]

just whale her

[fair rapids]

I'ma take cores aswell

[olive moat]

Cause Yen suck and queen decent

[fair rapids]

But now my dim team ain't got yen

[spice finch]

did it expire already?

[gilded salmon]

use ainz, simple

[spice finch]

ainz

[olive moat]

Take shard, if u take shard 5 times u save $25 since u don't need to buy yuexi shard

[lime zinc]

[fair rapids]

I need e60 Bert and if I whale shards I will e3x Ivan over that

[worthy rapids]

dragon doesnt need cores, he got a lot from this

[olive moat]

[spice finch]

is draken completing all boards?

[fair rapids]

That event is shit I'm not spending lol

[olive moat]

Yeah

[worthy rapids]

[olive moat]

Only take $297 to do every board, fits perfectly into ur daily budget

[spice finch]

[lime zinc]

Hourly budget

[worthy rapids]

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

Na bc my car transition went out so I ain't spending at all I ain't even buy daily $1

[worthy rapids]

yess keep going

[spice finch]

i'm dming them to stop

[fair rapids]

When it gets fixed I'll spend but now game budget is not for gaming

[lime zinc]

Pizza has 1.5k more hoe points than me

Maybe I should slot some meme shit in to bait defence

[fair rapids]

I'm at 7.9 so close to 8k

[spice finch]

draken

[fair rapids]

Potato here with me

[rich tree]

I might rejoin ya soon

[mossy bridge]

guys help me out with this questions guy, does anyone remember if you can grit swap engravings?

[rich tree]

I'm 1 gate above

[lime zinc]

How many tix have you bought

[fair rapids]

0

Haven't even manually fought someone

[lime zinc]

Wtf, have people just attacked you that much

[cinder willow]

im going f2p once wake releases

[spice finch]

looks like my teams worked

[lime zinc]

reminder that going f2p means starting a new acc

[fair rapids]

I have low power so ppl blind fight me and cope

[rich tree]

We see those words too often

[fair rapids]

Mualer invade op

[lime zinc]

Maybe someone will attack me now

[fair rapids]

[spice finch]

i'm stuck

[fair rapids]

@cinder willow #716768817006510090 message
Can you take a look at this

It won't let me @ you in nihi

[cinder willow]

👍

[spice finch]

hello draken

[tiny lily]

Be gentle to me

[cinder willow]

no one small is attacking me

i might have to uninstall from shame

[lime zinc]

martial 291 is pretty small

[tiny lily]

Just really confused about that elite+ alna

[native sundial]

How big is Rem 9f ? I have 6 now and 4 cards but i am saving for Mulan or Tamrus

[lime zinc]

Also big

[sour jay]

rem 9f good, just get it naturally imo

[tiny lily]

If your using rem with alna it’s big, less so without

[lime zinc]

Frontline Emi has more survivability than no Alna Rem

[native sundial]

Thats my wl

[worthy rapids]

stonks

[fair rapids]

@spice finch

He is the real Draken

[native sundial]

Small seal whale

[fair rapids]

I just whaled smarter than him

[alpine grove]

What’d you spend on

[fair rapids]

Whatever I want

Depends on the moment tbh

[worthy rapids]

wrong

[lime zinc]

Everything that had a pricetag

[fair rapids]

He has smol pets

[worthy rapids]

ur whaling wasnt smart at all lol

[fair rapids]

Smarter than his tho

[spice finch]

you probably just spent more

[fair rapids]

He has like 15 e60's and woke stars

[rich tree]

Look in curse realm for a nutty rng

[olive moat]

[proven hearth]

3 more tree levels if I finish these

[rich tree]

I didn't think the range went from 2.2m-11.1m

[lime zinc]

Kane R1 is just wack, I remember rng matching whale bis dmg before the enrage stack change

[fair rapids]

I did tho he got like 15+ e60

And no pets

[rich tree]

Yeah wdf I hate Kane now

[olive moat]

Kane is pretty rng

[worthy rapids]

but you cant say dumb>dumb

[olive moat]

Good news so is almost every other cr round

[rich tree]

[worthy rapids]

i like the 100% dodge one where half of my heroes i can just throw to trashcan

[rich tree]

Which is that lol

[olive moat]

Shem

[lime zinc]

Ice shem

[fair rapids]

@gilded salmon can I get your good boy (baden)

[worthy rapids]

the next one

[olive moat]

[lime zinc]

I wonder if Lib will take over the AwSol round

[rich tree]

https://tenor.com/view/winter-winter-is-coming-snow-gif-26050637

[native sundial]

Finally a proper win

[rich tree]

Wow

[fair rapids]

Abel doing her job as the rock of the team

[spice finch]

[worthy rapids]

[spice finch]

ok, i like the changes i made

[native sundial]

Orca

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

Same 🤝

Show teams so far

[native sundial]

Even my scarlet team is doing better mmm

[spice finch]

alna rem 100%

[fair rapids]

I copied you low-key on T2 xD

[spice finch]

ye, cause me smart

[fair rapids]

Your doing better tho

[sour jay]

Scarlet stall 100% (I'm at the top of a bracket )

[fair rapids]

[mossy bridge]

[native sundial]

Whats the full@comp

[lime zinc]

The classic "I'm 3 fights in at the top of the bracket, look at this 100%"

[sour jay]

It has Mae still

[spice finch]

[sour jay]

I just put scarlet in cause now it's scarlet stall

[spice finch]

congrats

[olive moat]

Scarlet is cc hero

[fair rapids]

Whel

[spice finch]

how are you so high up

[mossy bridge]

thanks gamers

[mossy bridge]

[olive moat]

F2p buff

[lime zinc]

Scarlet to kill your own Mae 5% of the time to revive her later

[sour jay]

bracket shit is kinda annoying cause you can't really test how good your comps are 50% of the time

[fair rapids]

It's all the e60's

Emi atha mulan

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