treasure-scramble

[indigo quail]

only last for 3 days

[flat tapir]

ah

[gilded salmon]

I read all that but dont understand

[gilded salmon]

just gonna have to see how it works myself

[indigo quail]

I honestly think the first one is okay, the second and third layer is too much p2w

[lime zinc]

95% wr at 10 battles of 2T, 26% wr at 5 battles of 3T

[flat tapir]

melodic rewards is way better

melodic rewards kind of underrated

even tho the odds are garbage for big prize

[lime zinc]

I think it means:
Board: 3x3/4x4 (maybe 5x5) with bingo sides, 3 tiers of rewards with different loot tables
Scrolls: Roll a random tile reward
Hammers: Choose a specific tile (so you'd only do it for bingo)
Once you finish a line you get the bingo on the side

Assuming you get some amount of free scrolls from the event and/or bundles

[flat tapir]

how much is the final gem reward

15k

ngl i dont even need timegazers

i dont plan on building solise or baden

but maybe i should at some point

[feral coral]

Mae bad

[flat tapir]

how is it even possible

[indigo quail]

so heres what i count on my screen if not buying any deals

• 50k for 15k + 18 tgs + 6k poe
• 110k for 30 tgs + 600 baits + 1 spice + 200 cores + 2k poe
• 190k for 50 tgs + 1k2 cores + 11k + 2 red cards + 7000 poe

[flat tapir]

that u won that?

can someone tell me if that is worth

that is not worth 190k diamonds

[lime zinc]

The adjacent diagonal doesn't have a reward

[flat tapir]

or am i stupid

[lime zinc]

Buying a 10k dia hammer = select tile
Using a scroll = random tile

[flat tapir]

he said 190k diamonds = 50 tgs + 1k2 cores + 11k + 2 red cards + 7000 poe

[abstract storm]

I'd assume Belinda into Hypo is a good match-up?

[lime zinc]

I think Myu just did calcs for if you theoretically only used hammers, but you wouldn't do that

[abstract storm]

Though with how many white stars he has, tree gap, and pets, I'd expect him to win regardless.

[indigo quail]

thats if ur not gonna buy any scrolls from events and just use a free scroll and hammers

[flat tapir]

i see

[feral coral]

Maybe I just got lucky

[flat tapir]

ill do the event when people do math on it

i dont mind throwing money at """"good value"""" events

[abstract storm]

Re-try the battle against someone on your friends list 100 times

[lime zinc]

It's a decent matchup, Mae hypos has fairly low burst + no SP in Smog, so AwBel has time to start up but can still get memed by Mae rez + seal

Idk where you get Ice Scrolls from but it def seems like you're mainly meant to use scrolls and hammers are just to guarantee line rewards

[flat tapir]

ye

[feral coral]

No point cuz sp works

[void horizon]

bring M daimon to A (won't be able to get him to 181 yet) or bring E+ ivan to M for his sig

[rich tree]

Mae seal

Should I even bother using M Luci

[lime zinc]

Generally you're meant to overlvl your carry, Ivan SI30 is really good tho

[solemn sage]

Choose between the 3x3, 4x4, or 5x5 board (or if you spend enough money/diamonds you can do them all)
Flip all tiles in a row/column to get the associated reward, flip whole board for the corner reward.
1 free scroll (possibly 1 per day?). Can get more for $. Each scroll flips a random tile. You can spend 10k diamonds to flip a specific tile.
Each board starts with 1 tile per row/column already flipped

[flat tapir]

134 dollars

that cant be USD

[solemn sage]

canadian

$100 USD

[flat tapir]

its 100 ye

[solemn sage]

$2/$5/$20/$50/$100

[indigo quail]

if we buy first 2 deals

thats gonna be $7 + 20k for 18tgs + 15k + 6k poe

[void horizon]

daimon's 180 everybody else is 140, won't be able to push 160 any time soon for him to push 200

ivan would only get +10si, dk how useful that is

[indigo quail]

thats actually not bad

[flat tapir]

that is not bad at all lol

that is a VERY VERY good deal

[tender arch]

@fair rapids

[flat tapir]

liberta rates were so insane man

i got my first 30k with liberta i think, and i also over drew with a double at the end

also liberta is so unbelievably OP its crazy

[tender arch]

i cant wait

[flat tapir]

i immed took him to e60

i thnik they both want e60 so

[tiny lily]

I could get Bert to m+ with average rng. But I’m trying to save

[solemn sage]

3x3: 18 TGS + 6k poe + 15k diamonds for $22 or $7 and 20k diamonds
4x4: 30 TGs + 600 bait + 1 spice + 200 cores + 2k poe for $47
5x5: 50 TGs + 1200 cores + 11k diamonds + 2 red cards + 7k poe for $47 + 80k diamonds or $97 + 20k diamonds

for anyone not spending just gamble your free ticket on whichever grid has rewards you need more

[flat tapir]

i need 5 more spices to spice my seal 12 -> 15

hopefully i can get my seal to 18 in a month

[solemn sage]

probably gambling on hitting 1k diamonds on 5x5 grid is best option

spending diamonds on this event is a trap

unless you're kraken with bunch of excess diamonds

[flat tapir]

so u need to spend 7 dollars AND 20k diamonds?

yeah only krakens will have the diamonds for that

[lime zinc]

Ivan SI doesn't help much before SI30 (it's still useful but not a big deal)

[flat tapir]

i spend diamonds every day on dust and shit

[solemn sage]

or $22

[flat tapir]

ew

[indigo quail]

i think kraken will need diamonds more tbh
for cr nc

[flat tapir]

wait that might still be worth it

[solemn sage]

only if they're turbo rerolling for top 10

[flat tapir]

18 TGS + 6k poe + 15k diamonds for $22

this isnt that bad?

[solemn sage]

yeah that's not too bad

[flat tapir]

thats 30 sg pulls

[solemn sage]

the 4x4/5x5 aren't that good of a deal though

[flat tapir]

yeah thats actually worth it sadly enough

ill think about it if i want to do it or not

im not splurging at all like i did before

i have more self control now

[indigo quail]

$15 + 1k4 vs 20k
what will you choose to spend

[flat tapir]

i will splurge when remilia come out tho

[solemn sage]

krakens who don't turbo reroll tend to be sitting on a ton of diamonds

[flat tapir]

they should both be put up for 100 dollars right?

ill drop 200$ on remilia if they do when they come out

both will change my game completely

[abstract storm]

Garrison probably

[solemn sage]

remilia won't be available for $

[flat tapir]

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!

[solemn sage]

they're garrison only

all collabs are

[lime zinc]

Beating a charm stage in 2 tries

[flat tapir]

so guys

when are we getting a new dim. it should be after lyca right?

i heard something like that

[solemn sage]

it's been long enough that it could happen at anytime

[flat tapir]

kk

if its a character from tensei slime, ill e80 them

[solemn sage]

but that doesn't guarantee it's soon

[lime zinc]

After AwLyca is my guess, but it's kind of just any time before the year ends

[flat tapir]

basically any anime i love i will e80 them

basically the only way i ever e80 anything

[solemn sage]

it won't necessarily be a collab

[flat tapir]

there was a poll or something about dims and tensei slime was 1 of them

[lime zinc]

It's going to be a non-collab dim next probably, since it's going to be a single

[flat tapir]

do we have any guesses, it still has to techically be a collab right

i guess they've made their own original dims

[solemn sage]

non-collabs have always been singles, collabs could be double or single

but lately they tend to be doubles

[flat tapir]

50 dollar one worth it, for light spending?

[solemn sage]

I guess PoP was the last collab single so it has been several years

[flat tapir]

i need an op dim

[lime zinc]

I'd imagine they'll just alternate between collab doubles and non-collab singles
(realistically you'd want to exchange regardless though)

[solemn sage]

your definition of light spending is most peoples definition of whaling

[flat tapir]

im basically only spending money on like good deals and shit

not really buying anything dumb anymore at all

[solemn sage]

Generally the more expensive the bundles get the less value for money they are

[flat tapir]

i think the dumbest thing ive bought was yuexi 25 dollar tg's and sg's

the past month

[lime zinc]

Light spending is like <$50 a month

[solemn sage]

Anything past $25 is typically significantly worse deal, with some exceptions

[flat tapir]

also almost got my credit card paid off

only own 500 dollars now

owe*

[tiny lily]

[flat tapir]

i just wnat lyca badly so i can get the resources from my pulls

ill get like 5 rc levels

and finish ch38 off of that

[solemn sage]

VIP packages and $50 dims are only thing past $25 that are worth buying imo

[flat tapir]

i still have the 3k core and 1.2k 100$ vip bundle

1.2k bait* i dont know ifi ll buy it ever tho

cus i dont care about the game like that rly

100 dollars over the course of some events is way more value probably

[solemn sage]

Monthly cards > nobles > 45k diamond packs > event passes > one-time event $1/$5/$10 deals > daily event $1

wishboxes, fun in the wild, and other visiting merchant deals also fit in there somewhere before or after event deals

everything else is worse

[polar dune]

Some kraken shit

[solemn sage]

oh yeah there's also celepo copy + 50 gazer for $30 deal once per 6 days

that one's great if there's celepos on the list you haven't built yet

[tender arch]

whats the best stuff to get from cele isle again? baits, reds. and shard or poe?

[solemn sage]

Baits for sure if not reso 18, everything else pretty subjective

[tender arch]

oke

[solemn sage]

just take what you feel like you're more in need of

[austere lark]

baits seem like best value in celestial offerings right?

[worldly belfry]

@spice finch who might help?

[worldly belfry]

be bait hoe for the rest of ur life

[solemn sage]

how am I still climbing

I don't belong here

[austere lark]

💳 ?

[solemn sage]

I'm beating bigger whales

even when it makes no sense

[worldly belfry]

pets?

[solemn sage]

both with 18 rock lizard

[dapper lance]

youre just a better person

[worldly belfry]

tree diff

[dapper lance]

personality diff

[austere lark]

skill issue

[solemn sage]

he has bigger tree too

full level 190

[austere lark]

whats more important tree or pets

[solemn sage]

I think 36 pets with small tree beats 18 pets with max tree

but max tree way cheaper than 36 pets

but 18 pets way more important than tree

[worldly belfry]

u r the better person

no cap

[austere lark]

i feel like im gonna go from top 1-2% in TS to top 4% once regions split

[dapper lance]

early/mid/late game pets >>>>>>>> endgame tree

wait no, reso18 > tree

[still heron]

Stop saying "tree"

[dapper lance]

rude

[worldly belfry]

@dapper lance do any of them help in rift

[dapper lance]

no idea i brute force rift

[worldly belfry]

it's ok

im hoping for floor 300 this rift

[solemn sage]

none are that good but orthros or ainz probably most useful

[worldly belfry]

Ill go with Ainz

[tender arch]

wtf

[still heron]

[restive goblet]

[dapper lance]

🎉

[restive goblet]

[tender arch]

apparently my region is filled with disgusting whales or smth

[dapper lance]

[dawn tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn99-noice-jake-peralta-andy-samberg-nice-gif-14234819

[storm moth]

[austere lark]

SKISSUE

[umbral orbit]

sell some arti frags

[tiny lily]

Where’s quick sell arti frag button

[flat tapir]

i need to build zolrath and then that other hypo then im kind of chillin

[queen crystal]

@oak yarrow

[trail swift]

4f hero that works as sole dps in burst comp plz

i have zol vei tamrus ready just no athane or aathalia :QQqqq

well not tamrus he's only 20936

[tranquil crane]

@olive moat thanks for the event update to the spreadsheet 👏

[trail swift]

does ivan do better than raine in abel team

30336 ivan vs 203 raine

[rich tree]

147 to finish eye

guess im buying 3 frag boxes

[lime zinc]

Ye

Idk which of Palmer/Raine/Haelus is better in Smog though

[proven vault]

Gm Scromblers

[dapper lance]

gm bbg

[proven vault]

Long time no see

[rich tree]

Nvm I said fuck it and finished eye

[dapper lance]

[rich tree]

[solemn sage]

old school burst used gwyn

[lime zinc]

[proven vault]

[solemn sage]

[rich tree]

I only bought $1, $2, $1, $5 for now

I ain’t dragon

[lime zinc]

[proven vault]

"For now"

[rich tree]

Gotta pace my records

Floor 10 tho I got ripped

Had to pick all the tiles for 3 rewards

[austere lark]

isnt it best to get 1 reward and go to next floor

[proven vault]

not on floor 10/20/30/etc

[austere lark]

whats special about every 10th floor?

[proven vault]

You don't have the same rewards

[solemn sage]

better reward choices

[proven vault]

You can check the rewards when you go to set treasure and there is a tab at the bottom : either floor 1-9 rewards or floor 10 rewards

[olive moat]

Thanks! Too bad isles is much worse than lost sigils

[proven vault]

38baits, 75 cores, 8 red chests, 3 sg etc

[tranquil crane]

yeah, very unfortunate. would have maxed juice if this was as efficient.

[dawn tinsel]

Build yourself a 30960 Eorin. Then bench him and pull for AAthalia.

[olive moat]

I had to put a max on shopping cart bc of people like u and equivalent whales like @fair rapids

[rich tree]

[tranquil crane]

[proven vault]

Dragon is now a low spender, only monthly and bait noble

[solemn sage]

I'll believe it when I see it

[worldly belfry]

he just did 18 seal

[proven vault]

I don't think it will last very long tbh

maybe few hours

[rich tree]

dragon only going in hibernation until music starts playing again

[uncut vapor]

rich

[worldly belfry]

come back

and beat dragon

[proven vault]

you're talking about the record thing ?

[rich tree]

Yes he maxed out and whaled cele even with maxed records

[proven vault]

it ends in 11days, I'm not sure he'll stay low spender that long

especially with new woke coming up

[lime zinc]

What Dragon means when he says "low spender now":
He's not literally in the process of spending $200 at that moment

[rich tree]

[solemn sage]

new woke comes after record reset

[trail swift]

rn im running ezizh rowan ivan palmer abel.. i could replace ezizh with 30960 haelus or raine idk

ezizh only L+

[lime zinc]

I'd probably drop a low invest Ez and just run frontline Hae

Would obvs need testing but it'd be worth it

[proven vault]

monthly which is ~24€, bait noble 30€, and he said sometime an event pass so another ~20€

[trail swift]

ill try it for next round

[proven vault]

still a lot of money but compared to what he has been spending that's pretty low

[lime zinc]

You mean both monthly when you say that right

[proven vault]

I mean the one which gives TE and the smoll one with shards

[lime zinc]

or did I forget deluxe monthly price again

[proven vault]

18€ and 6€

[lime zinc]

Oh yeah it's both

I thought they were 23aud+8aud so I was confused seeing 24euro

[proven vault]

Yeah I don't know the price in $, or australian $ so I said it in euro

dollars and euros should be close enough tho

[olive moat]

Yuexi reset 3 day from now dragon will be spending in short order I'm sure

[lime zinc]

Meant like, euro is waay stronger than AUD so I was confused seeing 24 when I wasn't sure if you meant both

[proven vault]

The prices I wrote above also include some kind of taxes taken by the Apple store

idk if it's the same on android or not

[lime zinc]

Idk, Idk if I've ever bought something through the Google Play store in general

[solemn sage]

taxes are regional

[olive moat]

This mfer spent $340 in the last 48 hr low spender my ass

[worldly belfry]

true, spent so he can get seal 18

[solemn sage]

the appstore/play store cut is baked into the price, any extra tax is your countries sales tax

[lime zinc]

Whales always calling themself 'low spenders' because they know JULIUS exists

[solemn sage]

several US states still don't have any sales tax, and some that have it don't enforce it for online purchases

you're supposed to declare it when you file your taxes but very few actually do

[proven vault]

He said starting September he'll be one
it was still august where he lives right ?

tho I doubt he'll stay true to his words

[rich tree]

Lilith will dangle a new powercrept and he’ll bite

[lime zinc]

Dragon getting caught by bait like the sea creature he is

[abstract storm]

Addiction

[flat tapir]

i mean im a low spender too

[lime zinc]

[flat tapir]

i am

[rich tree]

[flat tapir]

my temporal rift is barely maxed out

[lime zinc]

[solemn sage]

small kraken

[rich tree]

[worldly belfry]

does ivan want or need gear?

[flat tapir]

i can get to floor 300 easily with 64 trait right

srs question

[solemn sage]

yes

[flat tapir]

i want top 2000 but i dont think thats possible

[proven vault]

trait enhancer 64

[solemn sage]

and if you struggle because bad hero pool you can just reset your level 10s and get trait enhancer 80 or something

[flat tapir]

dont have enough good heroes for the amt of teams u need

[tranquil crane]

iirc bob made it to 320 last season with around that much? but you will get more over time too

[solemn sage]

trait enhancer way more important than everything else

[flat tapir]

my feedback is not maxed out yet i need the last one

[lime zinc]

No way was he 64, that's kraken only lvls

[flat tapir]

thats all overflow too though

from the 1 month i was high spending

[solemn sage]

64 at end of the season

not at 1 month in

[tranquil crane]

yeah i meant at the end of the season, i dont recall the exact value

[flat tapir]

so this 64 trait enhance will never happen again this early for me

[lime zinc]

Were we even at 60+ by the end

[flat tapir]

i spent a lot in 1 month so i had like a ton of extra feedback racked up

[olive moat]

I think i got to like 54 f2p by last season end I don't think I missed any collection days

[flat tapir]

do u think its possible for top 2000 to get frame

[lime zinc]

64 sounds whale even for the end of the cycle
Unless you had 0 NL and LD

[solemn sage]

with new player hero pool maybe not

[flat tapir]

ok so, it goes past 300 right?

or does it cap out at 300

[proven vault]

Maybe he was just better F2P

[flat tapir]

adn whoever gets 300 first is who is in top 2000?

[solemn sage]

yeah it goes way past 300 but all rewards except the frame stop there

[flat tapir]

kk

and yeah i am not whaling at all anymore, as i said that is legit all from the 1 month i was krakening

[lime zinc]

Idk if it even stops before it walls you

[flat tapir]

at least i think so

[solemn sage]

yeah you get stuck by enemies too hard to beat before you hit an actual ceiling

[flat tapir]

nice matchmaking

no1 here play league this is the worst season ive ever played

its kind of boring that rewards stop at 300

tempy rift has such good rewards tho

[lime zinc]

It's better than getting the same over more floors

[proven vault]

^ This

We know lilith

[flat tapir]

so when are we expecting lyca news

i thought she'd come out next week ngl

the issue is i dont think thats possible anymore

[proven vault]

she comes out in 11 days or so

[edgy pumice]

I come out now

[olive moat]

When test leak start

[proven vault]

on global

[lime zinc]

We know when she'll come out

[olive moat]

Get back in your hole

[edgy pumice]

[olive moat]

[flat tapir]

i rly want 400 rc by a month but idk if 29 levels gna be possible

[proven vault]

Let me introduce you yuexi dust

[flat tapir]

it makes me wonder how did that asulgard guy even get 830+ rc in less than a month

how is there even enough dust to buy in the game for that many levels in that amt of time

[rich tree]

Holy higher rc than me

[flat tapir]

aefryn ur on our region

[tranquil crane]

Each $100 pop up deal gives 120 gold chests

[flat tapir]

have u seen that monster

LC is ending soon

i wonder if hes going to win

i can probably make ro32 when alyca comes out

[rich tree]

Yes

[flat tapir]

wait no i forgot i have no remilia, thats why i instantly lost in ro64

that zoker guys tree is so low level ,no?

how does he only have 47 avg

[polar dune]

buying any heroic ship deal would also give you chest so its not hard

[solemn sage]

yeah there's a lot of dust available to buy if you really want to hard focus it

plus you can refresh store a shitload

[cedar copper]

1000 per refresh ?

[solemn sage]

Shop refresh costs:
2x 100
2x 200
2x 400
2x 600
2x 800
4x 1000
8x 1500
8x 2000

[still heron]

When does enemies get furniture in campaign?

[cedar copper]

incredible

[lime zinc]

Iirc somewhere in Ch52?

[solemn sage]

they have 9f in 53-4

so yeah it's earlier than that

[proven vault]

Soon ch50

[lime zinc]

Probably on the weekend, I'm like 100m off pcap but chasm should lower it by then

[lime zinc]

Oh maybe I was thinking about when 9F starts

[proven vault]

I don't want to push campaign

[lime zinc]

It's been totally free to push, other than pcap

[proven vault]

Won't have the time to push until 10th september anyway

[still heron]

Im at 51-25 and still no furn

[solemn sage]

I'm capped with thoran in 53-14

and no replays without thoran

[cedar copper]

your throan E11?
that adds a bit of extra power

[solemn sage]

e36

[cedar copper]

this guy is going places

[worldly belfry]

thoran eventually need those engraving ch.50+

[lime zinc]

I'm scared to reach singles that aren't the exact same comp

[still heron]

Expensive dim link

[proven vault]

Imagine being such a kraken you're using wokes as dims link

[still heron]

[proven vault]

Now hide that screenshot before dragon sees it

[still heron]

[solemn sage]

using meta heroes is just the correct way to use dim keys

if they're 5* heroes

frees up more trash heroes for your un-keyed links

[queen crystal]

if you’ve been playing awhile you’re going to have lots of trash units 5* anyw

[lime zinc]

If only linking copied invest too

[old fog]

i don’t even have anyone 5* yet lmao

oden is 4* and grez is 3* but those are my highest

[solemn sage]

I've got 102

[hoary dune]

Is Daemia meta in TS? Thinking about stargazing her first

[solemn sage]

Yes

[dapper lance]

do you have rem and emilia

[solemn sage]

she's in one of the best TS teams with rem asaf

[dapper lance]

are you a new player

[solemn sage]

but there's several other ways to use her well in pvp

[hoary dune]

New player, no Rem/Emilia yet

[dapper lance]

daemia as first ever sg target untested

debate between liberta and daemia as first

the beginner infographic pinned in #classic-questions was updated to explain pro/cons for first sg target

[hoary dune]

[abstract storm]

Liberta first makes a lot more sense to me, I don't see why you'd rush Dae

[dapper lance]

dae + seal ez mode.. i think seal needs to be 12 or 15 though

[abstract storm]

The immediate impact on every single game-mode would be way more significant with Liberta, especially as a new player

[dapper lance]

otherwise what you said

[abstract storm]

Oh, I see

[hoary dune]

Alright, so Liberta first. And what about awakened? A Belinda best first pick?

[solemn sage]

awlyca in 2 weeks, might as well wait and see how she is

[lime zinc]

Not like you'll be able to build an AW right now anyway. Need to see how the meta is when you actually have ~500 TE

[hoary dune]

Alright I'll wait, I only have 190 cards atm anyway

[feral coral]

Eww lucretia deniers

[proven vault]

Lucreita pog

[tranquil crane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1090735971433189416/1147085221691408384/image.png

I only did 50% with burst, so seal comp was a huge improvement

[tranquil crane]

Burst setup for comparison

[lime zinc]

My burst got ~30%

[solemn sage]

Who's ivan targetting?

[lime zinc]

Probably Mae...? (I doubt Palmer has that much atk as a sust)

[solemn sage]

it's either mae or abrutus I'm assuming

[tranquil crane]

Mae

[solemn sage]

my brutus is higher attack than my mae because of stars

[tranquil crane]

abru's ult is solid for buying time for seal to do work

I suspect he'd still be a decent target

[lime zinc]

My 301162 AwBrutus doesn't even have higher atk than 30960 Anasta

[tranquil crane]

lmao

[solemn sage]

mine's pretty big

[tranquil crane]

💪 👍

[proven vault]

BIg boi

[tender arch]

can yall give me 3 teams?

[abstract storm]

Was this early into 3T? If so can be heavily skewed

My burst performed slightly better than that one, but I also don't have Thane, and forgot Lyca.

[tender arch]

here should be easier like this

[lime zinc]

Kaia's TS is fundamentally always going to be heavily skewed due to his kraken ranking

[solemn sage]

and new region

[tranquil crane]

I'll give burst another try later and see how it compares

[abstract storm]

That's true, but he chose a harder route this time, so if it was early into 3T he'd effectively just repeat-fight the two good Koreans that aren't green, and PWNU, all of which would be running the most meta teams with good investment.

[solemn sage]

new region has more investment diversity among krakens

[abstract storm]

[solemn sage]

so teams/winrates are all over the place compared to older regions

[tranquil crane]

💯

[abstract storm]

That's fair

[storm moth]

tf is joker doing here

[proven vault]

He's lost don't mind him

[solemn sage]

his best

[storm moth]

i dont even know what he does

[proven vault]

Nobody does

[lime zinc]

Ig his aoe stun helps the start when camp has shit TY

[storm moth]

i also love that geralt without 9f does shit

when its his main thing for this comp

[lime zinc]

I don't actually know why he's used before 9F
Ik he can fear GB/hypo baseline tho

[storm moth]

he isnt actually

[lime zinc]

I've seen him in ch49 and tower clears at 203

[storm moth]

akka might be overleveled tbh

at 430 deficit

[proven vault]

430 deficit is overleveled ?

[storm moth]

yeah hes 15b over pcap on single stages

[solemn sage]

Combat rating difference in % is the better way to measure deficit

[lime zinc]

I was about to write "even I only know 3/4 of his skills" but I actually remember all other than engrave (probably just skill dmg anyway)

[storm moth]

how to do that if enemies are 1t power

[solemn sage]

RC scaling decreases the higher it is, so 430 deficit at RC 900 is way less than 430 deficit at 600

[lime zinc]

[solemn sage]

yeah that's an issue

[lime zinc]

430 def at rc600 would be fking insane, you'd need a demonic tree and over lvl800 beasts

[solemn sage]

powercap is only at ~17-18x power deficit for me (393 level deficit)

[proven vault]

I feel like I don't even know half the skills of the main meta heroes

[proven vault]

lvl 8 beasts

[lime zinc]

I don't remember a lot of the exact numbers but should know effects for like 80-90% of all

[lime zinc]

Fixed

[solemn sage]

I'm at 28x deficit in KT (~430 deficit when I pushed to here)

[proven vault]

You're way too smort

[storm moth]

hmm i think i should push kt too

rc 900 and only 50 floors higher

[solemn sage]

I'm almost at 3 team powercap

when I pushed at RC759 I was capped just by removing one hero

[lime zinc]

It's just good memory, being smart is actually analysing them which I'm not nad at tbf

I only remember like half of Oscar's kit for instance

[proven vault]

who cares about oscar

when you can use eluard

[lime zinc]

I only remember 3/4 of Eluard's skills + SI and furn

[proven vault]

Will you stop now

[storm moth]

i dont know anyones kit tbh

[proven vault]

^ That's me

no need to know what you're doing if you can just copy

[storm moth]

i dont know kits and i make my comps sometimes

[lime zinc]

I just memorise stuff after reading it once or twice without thinking about it

[proven vault]

Yeah works with some things for me too, but not really with afk hero kits

Never really tried tho

[solemn sage]

I know key skills

everything else is just whatever

they do damage or they do cc or they do buffs

[lime zinc]

There's a couple skills on meta heroes that are really easy to forget, e.g. Rem S2 is a knockback and stun but you barely ever notice it

[granite mason]

Nearby enemies lose 320 Dodge points.
guess what is that skill

[lime zinc]

Alna?

[tranquil crane]

I know that one cuz I engraved her for the haste and was annoyed the skill itself was so useless

but I'm not sure that it is in retrospect

that probably makes a nonzero difference for aath in god comp

[lime zinc]

Rem doesn't have much acc so it could help a little so that she misses less -> builds more energy

Alna e33 is mostly just for some extra haste anyway

Alna S2 and S4 are much easier to forget

[tranquil crane]

yeah i have no idea about them XD

[lime zinc]

If I thought about it I could prob remember that they existed but they'd be mushed together as 1 skill
(If I can't remember a hero's skills I try to replay their animations in my head)

[worthy rapids]

@tranquil crane

t14 atm

[lime zinc]

AwThane burst only got 32% wr at 3T so I need to test AwBel

[tranquil crane]

huh neat, i guess just giving ivan the potion is workable huh

[worthy rapids]

It has over 50% against awthalia

[tranquil crane]

what are the aath comps in your history?

[lime zinc]

Ivan stealing the potion makes his ult even more instant and means AwBel gets shield + cc immune more consistently
But obvs it slows down AwBel 1st ult if anyone else takes it

[spice finch]

thats pretty good wtf

[tranquil crane]

yeah i tested intentionally giving ivan the potion first early on, like a month ago, and found it worse in most matchups but it probably depends a lot

[solemn sage]

yeah winrate against awthalia doesn't give much info since she's used in several different teams

[lime zinc]

inb4 pizza is fighting L AwAtha

[worthy rapids]

If ivan isnt taking the pot abel is ulting before him

[solemn sage]

she's in rem job, dims, and burst

[worthy rapids]

= less dmg

[lime zinc]

Delaying the ult = less dmg anyway

[spice finch]

can't palmer also take the pot there?

[worthy rapids]

No

[lime zinc]

Palmer won't be able to take it because Ivan will pretty consistently steal it

But Palmer can take it with pos3 Ivan

[spice finch]

oh, didn't know that, thats cool

[polar dune]

Wonder if we will get to 4 teams

[worthy rapids]

Idk if its optimal, im looking at wr and im good with it

[old fog]

anyone here in olympians?

apart from zappy and zod but they ain’t here rn

[worthy rapids]

Kraken

@fair rapids

[lime zinc]

Idk which matchups Ivan stealing pot benefits but ik it's at least situationally usable

Dragon isn't in olympians

[old fog]

dragons in nihi

[worthy rapids]

when did he change

[old fog]

month or so ago

[lime zinc]

Couple weeks ago

[spice finch]

when he became a kraken

[worthy rapids]

[old fog]

when he started spending a lot iirc

[still heron]

@sharp rapids

[worthy rapids]

Btw

[feral coral]

Oh silly left

[lime zinc]

Barry don't tell me off for not saying I'm in olympians and letting you get pinged

[tranquil crane]

[spice finch]

those are good
i tried athalia with ivan but it doesn't work

[feral coral]

How to make dims better

[old fog]

man i got some dookiewater winrates rn

[spice finch]

put a woke there

[polar dune]

Facing a weaker opponent

[lime zinc]

Derank to weak opponents

[old fog]

this sux

[lime zinc]

Flaw knows what's up

[feral coral]

Who

[polar dune]

Mine kinda suck too

[feral coral]

[flat tapir]

If only I had remilia

[spice finch]

i'm running mae there

[feral coral]

No Mae. Either wutus waden swolise or athane. Probably wutus best

[spice finch]

yea

[polar dune]

Prime example of fighting weaker opponents

[spice finch]

with wutus do you swap him with albedo?

[feral coral]

Yeah I think so

[polar dune]

No , you would prob swap emilia

[flat tapir]

My comps are so bad but they work

[lime zinc]

Only 2% worse than my T3

[lime zinc]

AwBrutus dims is pretty solid in Smog

[old fog]

rlly needa do well this TS so then i get into nihi too it’s not looking good

[lime zinc]

[spice finch]

you were t100 tho

[tranquil crane]

gonna test a really stupid idea I've been wondering about for a while at 4T

[old fog]

yeah at 2 teams lmao. still got the screenie tho

[tranquil crane]

rem and rcl should keep abel alive long enough to ult, I think... and saf should give some energy

[polar dune]

but abel

[lime zinc]

The idea is to run meme comps to confuse people in your region trying to copy

[feral coral]

[tranquil crane]

💯

[flat tapir]

Temporal rift today

NICEEEEEEEEEEE

HoE comes out today too right?

[lime zinc]

Well tomorrow's reset but soon yeah

[maiden crag]

Whats the best awakened hero in TS right now? Ive got asolise and 430 time cards (and 1 L abelinda)

[flat tapir]

Depends on ur region

Abel sucks In old regions

[maiden crag]

Region 41

[old fog]

TS is wathalia, but abel is used everywhere and is prio. wait for new woke to release first tho only a few weeks

[solemn sage]

~10 days

[maiden crag]

Ohhh ok

[flat tapir]

I need baits

[lime zinc]

well you've already got one of the worst AWs for TS so it's all uphill from there

[maiden crag]

Exciting

[flat tapir]

And spices

5 more spices for 15 seal

[maiden crag]

😢

[old fog]

yeah but you’d want to pull like a week after once all the testing is done no?

[flat tapir]

I'm not going to wait

[solemn sage]

Not if you own all the existing ones already

[flat tapir]

If she's decent on test I'm just going to pull her

[lime zinc]

Whales don't wait when they just own all instead

[flat tapir]

I only don't own baden and solids

[old fog]

i have a whopping one woke

[flat tapir]

Solise*and obvi the 2 shitty ones

[maiden crag]

How much of a whale do u need to be to have all awakaneds?

[solemn sage]

#squad

[flat tapir]

A big one

[solemn sage]

abrutus chilling out of frame with 4*

[old fog]

that’s kinda hot i ain’t gonna lie

[tranquil crane]

whales dont own all wokes, that kraken territory

[flat tapir]

Ye

Cus I don't even have all wokes

[solemn sage]

nah I'm far from kraken

just need to have been a dolphin with good CR/TS ranks since before wokes released

[flat tapir]

Ye

[tranquil crane]

[old fog]

how much $ a month is considered dolphin

[maiden crag]

Hmmmm

[flat tapir]

I might pull baden or Solise after lyca

Before next woke comes out

[old fog]

baden

solise trash

[flat tapir]

Only issue is next woke will be gb

But baden is used in so much

[solemn sage]

Abaden will become obsolete before asolise does

supports have longer shelf life

[flat tapir]

And I can never merc him

[old fog]

i got abaden merc

cuz i am coolerest

[austere lark]

what game mode is raku even good for anymore

[tranquil crane]

can reserve mine if ya want

[solemn sage]

wilder tower

[flat tapir]

Goat

[little cairn]

Campaign

[old fog]

a lot of pve content

[tranquil crane]

he can sub into a lot of CR

[flat tapir]

Raku sucks ass

He was a waste of red chests lmao

[tranquil crane]

for 10-20% players

[flat tapir]

1 of my bad investments

[austere lark]

same here it would seem Irels

[little cairn]

My bad investment was oku

[austere lark]

im at a deficit where my E+ mehira gets insta deleted by all 5 waves i ncampaign

[old fog]

not for me him and mehira have carried one of the teams from 31-where i am now

what ch

[little cairn]

Got baited by arty when he was hyping him up in old rift

[flat tapir]

Big oopsie

[austere lark]

mine has most t4 gear, bigger oopsie

[old fog]

he’s meant to have full t4

[solemn sage]

Oku is depressingly borderline

[flat tapir]

There is no way full t4 makes him carry

[old fog]

you’d be surprised

[flat tapir]

Gear has seemed meaningless to me

[solemn sage]

Not good enough to build, but just good enough to make me want to build him anyways

[still heron]

Gib baits

[solemn sage]

I was wilder in HF so I tried him anyways

[little cairn]

[old fog]

golly

[austere lark]

look how swole he is i wonder how he stacks up against a loli

[old fog]

um

[flat tapir]

LOL

[maiden crag]

Police officer this message right here

[flat tapir]

That was Hella outta pocket, I'm dying

[little cairn]

Naroko oks him easy

[tranquil crane]

[little cairn]

[flat tapir]

Is getting nevanthi 9f a troll

Shes at 7 alrdy so it's too late

[little cairn]

Nev investment is never troll

[solemn sage]

Just get all the 9fs

[little cairn]

[tranquil crane]

everything on nev is fantastic

[flat tapir]

@old fog told u

[solemn sage]

I found her e60 underwhelming

[flat tapir]

She seemed good so i was eight

Right *

[old fog]

isn’t she only for CR

[flat tapir]

Kaia why didn't I have u added

[old fog]

don’t see her anywhere else other than overheal with solise

[tranquil crane]

nev is kinda all over once you have her teams

[little cairn]

Works fine in ts if you swolise already

[flat tapir]

[old fog]

swolise is so low prio i feel like ur not running nev a lot anymore

[tranquil crane]

because actually adding as friend in game is just for pvp testing and you're too smol for me to test against lol

[flat tapir]

Rude

[old fog]

ouch

[still heron]

[little cairn]

Well yeah she's low prio but a shit ton of people already built her

[flat tapir]

I'm going to beat up nitros teams since u said thet to make myself feel better

[still heron]

Im still good enough

[old fog]

kaia is committed to his LC

[tranquil crane]

[flat tapir]

Well see about lc

[old fog]

i’ll smack you up little hoe

[flat tapir]

Asulgard is on our LC

[tranquil crane]

no yeah im doomed in LC until the region splits anyways

[flat tapir]

Split to what region?

Does the one before us have aachan?

[tranquil crane]

if Asulgard doesn't go to R36 when it's created I'm gonna be mad forever XD

[flat tapir]

I rly want to win a lc but not possible

Even in new region lc

[old fog]

ya cuz u trash

[flat tapir]

I want the frame

[tranquil crane]

your best bet at winning LC is asking people for it once the region is old enough... or hiring assassins

[flat tapir]

Yep

I'm going to have big advantages in new region

My seal will actually be 18 by then

Since it's not too far off 15 alrdy

[austere lark]

my pet reso is 6 KEKW

[tranquil crane]

oh huh I just noticed my biggest friends are up to 2T cmbr now

not sure if that's a recent possibility or if I just didn't have big enough friends

[little cairn]

friends

[cinder willow]

I have that too it’s a somewhat recent thing

[flat tapir]

I'm at 356m

[old fog]

same

[tranquil crane]

absolute unit

[flat tapir]

I'm aiming for reso 400 in a month or so

[old fog]

it’s cuz you don’t have me added im at 7T now

[flat tapir]

Yeah that guy has everything Maxed for Sure

[still heron]

U can get 2t cmbr since Bert/Luci release

[little cairn]

What a kraken, newer server than me

[tranquil crane]

nah, not supermaxed like 4036e100

[lime zinc]

2T was waaaay before Lib release

[tranquil crane]

👌

[cinder willow]

Huge

[lime zinc]

Like maybe Dae release people first hit 2T?

[flat tapir]

Bait hoe is a good name

[tranquil crane]

yeah that makes sense, I just don't have gigamaxed friends

[polar dune]

Ppl got it since 880 rc

[cinder willow]

My biggest was Akka

[lime zinc]

You also had to do the meme of having loads of random shit on RC afaik

[still heron]

Nvm then

[proven vault]

Kadezh spreading misinformation

[tranquil crane]

how many folks you reckon are truly gigamaxed these days? I've always heard JULIUS stays completely maxed but I assume relatively few other people bother with the last handful of useless invests like walker

[polar dune]

Depend wym by gigamax , is gigamax like everything max

[tranquil crane]

yeah

[solemn sage]

382 kills my libcilla team

[polar dune]

If so like 15

[tranquil crane]

good lord

those folks could probably keep the lights on at lilith entirely on their own

[solemn sage]

getting there is insane, but maintaining it once there isn't too crazy

until new creep

[flat tapir]

Is kiasma gigamaxed?

[polar dune]

A lot less than last year , some kraken sold their account and new owner just stop trying to

Nope

[storm moth]

way before that no?

like 2-3 heroes

[solemn sage]

kiasma missing a lot of e100s

and furn

[flat tapir]

I'll only e80 a slime tensei collab

[cinder willow]

New finch owner selling his ranks at this point he lost TS1 for the first time in r39 history, but idk if he just doesn’t care about it or what

[polar dune]

After certain point , you stop caring

[still heron]

I bet whaloerry paid him

[storm moth]

hi flaw big fan

[polar dune]

None of these ppl are gigamax btw

[lime zinc]

Kiasma kinda small, less +3s than I have reg furn

[austere lark]

afk arena is a skill based game

[tranquil crane]

thats gotta be one of the most stacked friends lists in the game lmao

[solemn sage]

I'm holding rank 1 for furn in my server because boerma has 0fs on trash heroes

[storm moth]

mine is better i have dragon and jhawk

[solemn sage]

he'd probably be ahead of me if he put yellow furn on them

[tranquil crane]

😤

[polar dune]

As of recent , a lot of ppl stop caring about gigamaxing - im pretty sure the number is just a dozen

15 might be a very strong estimate

[tranquil crane]

TIL there's a server ranking for furn somewhere...

[storm moth]

[tranquil crane]

[solemn sage]

right side

[tranquil crane]

Ah... I have 3x more red furn than the next highest on my server

[solemn sage]

top one is server ranking, bottom one is friends/guildies but random ordered

server ranking is based on combat rating from the furn if you were all same RC

[old fog]

i am 44th in my server for furn

[solemn sage]

so someone with full 36fs on all the good heroes but 0fs on the trash will be lower than someone with 9fs on everyone

[tranquil crane]

TIL there's a Potato on my server

[flat tapir]

When would u guys start duping furn on abel?

[tranquil crane]

I'm glad he's not in the competitive scene for any mode, that would just get too confusing

[storm moth]

im t5 and akka is t76 lmao

[solemn sage]

I didn't start duping until I ran out of non-9f heroes to put on wishlist but I'm a weirdo

[proven vault]

I'm t45 and the one that is 46 has 200+ red furns than me

[flat tapir]

He has 142 more than me. Holy fuck

[tranquil crane]

haha you are on his server that's really funny

he's my apprentice

[flat tapir]

Yeah I am very unlucky

The golden lotus guy?

[tranquil crane]

yeah

[flat tapir]

That dude has wasted a lot of money

[solemn sage]

gotta catch em all

[flat tapir]

He e60d a lucius

[proven vault]

Give the poe

[solemn sage]

I need it for lyca

[flat tapir]

I'm saving my poe for lyca

[tranquil crane]

yup, he asked me to help him sort things out a few days back so you won't see those mistakes anymore

[proven vault]

Me too

[flat tapir]

I should have like 3 on my wl finished from my poe

But yeah that goldenlotus guy has spent a lot

Hes probably vip16

[tranquil crane]

Yeah he's bigger than me in multiple ways T_T

[flat tapir]

He kind of got unlucky since he spent that much and he's with asulgard

So he'll never be #1

[tranquil crane]

yeah if he had started when I did he'd be running the region easily by now

[solemn sage]

[flat tapir]

I'm fine with top 20 which is possibleb

[tranquil crane]

if he started later I'm not sure it would be easier though, I bet a bunch of krakens are waiting for remilia garrison to start alts

[flat tapir]

I should pretty easily be able to keep top 20 in new region forever

[tranquil crane]

I think the first region when they hit garrison again will be at least a little powerspike

[flat tapir]

Yeah I think I'll be top 20-30 in our region when they do

But yeah luckily idc about server #1

[old fog]

waiting for spot in Olympians to free up

[flat tapir]

Why do u care about the guild ur in

[still heron]

Can u plz leave @main abyss

[old fog]

because then i ask them for help and then i get better at the game? i’m in a random CN guild rn i want some people to talk to who know what they’re doing

[polar dune]

at what point do you become a kraken

good question to ask

[flat tapir]

When ur vip 16

[polar dune]

like account status - pet level etc.

[old fog]

when ur dragon

[still heron]

Gabe said vip 17

[flat tapir]

Vip 16 and reso 18

[old fog]

yeah vip 17 is probably about right

[polar dune]

there is just so much v17 account out there

[flat tapir]

Vip 14-15 are whales and anything below that is irrelevant

[old fog]

i hit the big vip 10 in a few days when i gets accoubt level 160

[old fog]

u 14?

[proven vault]

I'm irrelevant

[still heron]

[old fog]

same heart we can be irrelevant together

[solemn sage]

new VIP12s are bigger spenders than old VIP14s

[old fog]

irels you should give me ur vip codes i reckon

[solemn sage]

it's all about monthly spending

[flat tapir]

I used one today and got 10 sgs

[old fog]

should’ve given it to me smh

[flat tapir]

I'm still spending like 200-300 a month and I think that amt is irrelevant lol

[solemn sage]

I spend <200 a month and I'm VIP15

you're bigger whale than me

[flat tapir]

I am not a whale

[old fog]

i spend <20 usd a month lol

[proven vault]

200-300 a month is irrelevant ?

[old fog]

irels used to be whale but he stopped spending a lot so i reckon dolphin

[polar dune]

its not about amount - its about consistency

if he spent 200-300 every month for 4 years thast impressive

if he spend 200-300 now for 2 months and stop playing its like 0

[flat tapir]

I spent 5k usd in my first month

That will never happen again

[old fog]

kraken amounts

[flat tapir]

[tranquil crane]

My idea of what a kraken is got recalibrated watching the rise of Asulgard...

[flat tapir]

Yep

[proven vault]

You're feeling like a shrimp Kaia ?

[flat tapir]

That guy I hope is unbelievably rich

And same with the Goldenlotus guy

[tranquil crane]

I am a mere shallow water inhabitant

[old fog]

that mf is the whole ocean at this point

[flat tapir]

He is

Bro is deadass at like 30b cmbr

[solemn sage]

when new powercreep comes out you get to see who the true cthulhus are

[old fog]

dragon

[tranquil crane]

lmaooo you think he's at 30???? 💀

[polar dune]

hes prob in 800B range

[old fog]

it is not 30b

[tranquil crane]

that's just his profile cmbr

[flat tapir]

Yeah I meant profile

[tranquil crane]

his actual total account cmbr is way higher

[old fog]

sure sure irels

[flat tapir]

Guys

1083 is like a 40d old server

[golden lantern]

yup thats why we are scared of him

[old fog]

who tf beat him in NC

lally!

[golden lantern]

I did.

[polar dune]

thats cr

[solid monolith]

lally did

[proven vault]

I'm at 9B power

[old fog]

lally built different clearly

[golden lantern]

thank you zap

[tranquil crane]

he's ahead of me in CR this time...

[solemn sage]

profile power is almost entirely RC

[tranquil crane]

I haven't done my final hits but I think he'll stay ahead of me

[flat tapir]

This is pretty irrelevant for me rn

I need like another 2 months

It requires way too many heroes built

[proven vault]

I've already dropped to 29% CR

[flat tapir]

I wish I had his money

Hes a millionaire for sure

I dont think 6 digits is enough but maybe

Like high 6 digits

[old fog]

light spender

[lime zinc]

I just fell out of 16%, was expecting to fall out of 20% before check anyway

[golden lantern]

if i was a millionaire/billionaire i would be like asulgard too

[solemn sage]

I guess I should probably redo some CR hits

[proven vault]

this week going to be sooo bad for CR/NC

[solemn sage]

since my ira hit got wiped

[tranquil crane]

🇫

[lime zinc]

I should get consistent <20% after I get 18 Seal

[tranquil crane]

how much higher are you expecting to get?

[solemn sage]

idk I usually end up at 4-6%

but 5.2% at this point in the week is probably like 8% at end

will optimize later

[tranquil crane]

are you still missing heroes that the top players use, or is the difference just sheer invest depth at this point?

[lime zinc]

I think Kane is the worst rng CR
(Even the consistent rounds can randomly spike much higher)

[solemn sage]

pretty much just RNG and stars/e80s on wokes

[tranquil crane]

[solemn sage]

oh and tree

[fair rapids]

Ye 12

GM

[lofty silo]

Tree is huge part for cr

[tranquil crane]

How much flat stats are you getting from an upgrade at your level?

[solemn sage]

yeah my R5 is my biggest outlier damagewise and that's probably because my low tank tree

[lofty silo]

Can’t be worst than my tank tree lol

Not even 107

[solemn sage]

each individual level isn't huge, the difference between all 180s and all 200s is minor

but difference between 107 and 180 is massive

[lofty silo]

I need to reset my tree to do better hits lol

[tranquil crane]

Yeah but the increase scales, right? Like I'm getting +49k hp on my next support tree upgrade, but for you that flat bonus is a lot bigger, right?

[lofty silo]

The lower the level, the better stats after 107

[solemn sage]

iirc it's linear

[lofty silo]

So cr is 360, so it’s better.

[lofty silo]

After 107, its just flat stats

[solemn sage]

yeah Kaia's asking if the flat stats get bigger at higher levels

[lofty silo]

Ah mb

[solemn sage]

but it's linear

and yeah the lower the martial level the bigger impact tree has

[lofty silo]

171 is the same as u

[tranquil crane]

Ah so it caps around 110 I guess?

the flat stat increase, that is

[solemn sage]

probably

there's spreadsheets somewhere

[tranquil crane]

that's good to know, means I might have more of a chance than expected bigger trees in LC

[lofty silo]

Bigger tree matters in LC

[tranquil crane]

I was thinking I'd have zero chance against asulgard and thats probably still true but not as hopeless as I thought

I was thinking he'd be getting like 200k flat stats at his level

[lofty silo]

Heroes are 240, super low level

[tranquil crane]

(per upgrade)

[solemn sage]

e100 36fs is your bigger issue there

[tranquil crane]

I'm not even close to being ready to white star anyone

still missing way too many CR invests lol

[lofty silo]

Also make sure u use asaf sp

[solemn sage]

e80s are huge difference for pvp

[tranquil crane]

yup, might make bert my first e80 at some point though, since he gets haste off it and I already have him at e66

[lofty silo]

Silver star overrated 😂

I think pets, tree matters more

[solemn sage]

bert gets 10 PR

[lofty silo]

The haste is sexy

[tranquil crane]

yeah but the haste probably matters more for him than rem

[lofty silo]

Bert also have 2 furn dupes that give haste

[tranquil crane]

like rem is not the primary dps in god comp and in fact often does very little damage

but bert is definitely the primary dps in a lot of comps

[lofty silo]

Bert wants furn, a lot of furn lol

[tranquil crane]

yeah im going for at least 6 dupes on him once I have my CR furn at a vaguely acceptable level

[tender arch]

@spice finch i was wondering why this name seemed so familiar

[fair rapids]

Kraken himself celowz

[tranquil crane]

Look at this kraken, more stars on his luci than me

[tender arch]

hes at the top of my list in formation recommendations. i hate it since i cant copy his ass

[spice finch]

[tranquil crane]

actually kinda curious why you thought luci was a high star priority, cuz I'm considering her

[solemn sage]

My e60 bert has 23 PR
An e100 bert in pvp woul have like 40? That's a lot less damage taken from rem/awthalia

[solemn sage]

simpin ain't easy

[tranquil crane]

💯

I actually think her skills should scale unusually well with raw stats though since you are double dipping on both stealing stats and giving them to allies

like she might be a weirdly high priority for stars and gear

[solemn sage]

I just t4 all new heroes at this point

[tranquil crane]

[solemn sage]

except tanks

they have to earn it