#treasure-scramble
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any news on daemia vs liberta priority yet?
Yes
Holy crap that's 137 Seal copies just sitting in inventory
if only
come back in a month
Is that even enough for 36 seal? 

U have 18 seal?
no, mine is 15,0
And 30 spices
I have lv 16 seal in bags waiting to be claimed
Ahead of me in pets now
Probably ahead of me in vip soon 
Everyone passing me in vip now
were you busy this past few days?
i saw you didn't even bother optimizing last CR
What about these teamz ? Any suggestion ???
I'm just not busy today
Yeah I hit it at like 4 in the morning
Maybe mix rem with Gbs and built another Dim team ?
you just copied me 😠
I copied nn too but yours was better
thats a lot better
The only dims left are Bedo and Ainz though
bedo merlin ainz emi joa
Okeyy
alna rem gbs backline
why ainz in burst 
No solice ?
you can run solise on either team, you can choose if you want her with dims or alna rem
if you run solise with dims you can take off ainz cause he suck

Yea i actually did that
isnt it fog? 
wtf gib
fog is burst for rich people


Every debuff is burst
except ice, ice sucks
He's burst champ

Grez nowhere though … and what pets to use ? Lion on Rem , Fox on Abel and ?
use him then smh
for 4 teams i would put ainz back with dims and run mishka grez asol nev astar silas or whatever
Ice is burst if u have enough dmg
and if you do silas you can sub him with something for alna rem backline
Hmmm
my athalia definitely didn't have enough dmg 
anasta might be good with asol instead, keep silas with alna rem
you can test both 
How to get 4 Bert copy without taking any game actions
team 1 fox/talis
team 2 seal
team 3 rcl
team 4 lion
should I change something here?
damn it's not sending
do fox for abel then
can test both owl/talis for dims
Okey
use your asol 😠
swap Ainz for Awsol?
ye

Thats a game action 
do pulls
I want to do nothing and have 4 Bert's magically appear in my box
Seal lvl8 or Tali lvl8 on Asol ?
I am unironically slowing down
seal
this fine?
ye
30 more reds for dae si30 smh
My only priority is to burst Salsa

Every time you're about to spend there is one question you need to ask yourself. "What would Salsa think?"
Salsa would think do it

I'm pretty sure
I have to win Salsa
i can answer that, i'm sure salsa would think, i need to catch up

Salsa is mean

He isnt letting me top100
i'm gonna try that next time some impure spending thoughts come up
impure 
@spice finch what u think

E67 Abel ?
rip soren 1000b dream
it's really expensive for a non-spender
if it would leave you with no cores don't do it
:isathumbsdown:
Yea i got like 5k cores
too expensive for f2p
are they not 
If u have e41 and u go to e67 you'll have 50 cores left over
is the ira thing fixed
Yea
ye
ye
so did they remove ira hits
Not yet
I dont have anyone else to engrave for now … Tamrus and Mulan are like 2 and 3f
They probably will
surely they do
there are other impure things you could be buying
might as well send it to lilith 
before afk i didn't even spend my money with anything 
I can save for Ivan though
yikes
u can e3x/4x nev


Nev not a prio as i know
Eventually u will
Im waiting for Misty valley for Ivan … maybe ill engrave him
choerry, how do i stop gambling on cr hits
you've gone too far
ive been doing pretty bad diamond decisions lately 
just dont 
approaching Flaw level
then he'll have to push campaign
it's that easy huh
The funny thing is i have 4f for Haelus that i aint pulling for
more than me
save cores for ivan 
i forgot the specific percent you start getting tgs but its not worth resetting if youre not close imo
maybe if youre at 50% reset is good
i was trying to guarrantee t50%
ah
then i spent 3k on resets
Yeah ill@do that … what he needs ? E4x?
and i probably didn't get it 
I recommend wait for someone in ur region to spend Diamond optimize their clear then copy Carl them 4 hr before cr ends
wtf 
yea, i had to do it early cause of trials
same, just do as well as I can then maybe try again later at end
3.5k if we count ira hits 

ceeeloowwwzzzzz wtf
atleast i will get 100 back for that
ira opened up the possibilities
it's that bad 
and sending him to ruin
3k o
7 Bert copy down the drain
@fair rapids
Need 1 more dae for 1 star 
me 4k

now i don't feel bad, thanks myu

10% spend but 0.01% his power and .00000001% his net worth
you're bieng nice with the .1%
how bout now
thats more like it
probably still being nice tho
can fit a few more zeros there
ye, like that
Flaw is not a trillionaire 

we need numbers flaw:
That graph looks promising
if you remove a few more zeroes im pretty close too

If I have to quantify to a number its prob $280k there?
if you remove a few more more zeroes and add some im pretty close too
phew thats ur afk spend chart huh
I don’t remember if that was my portfolio or my csgo skin collection
do you guys think we're close to r8? 
Few more month at least

What's the youngest server where the players even have the game mode unlocked. Like does 1060 have it yet
Max tree 
asulgard for sure has it unlocked 
you can do it hythlo!
sadge
Gotta keep the red medal
when's the next woke? after saf ship ends?
yeh, 3 or so days of overlap
No overlap this time
thanks choerry
Next woke is in two weeks

There's not gonna be any overlap this time
why
Heroes are always added during the maintenance, which was last night. No hero this patch
Usually there’s a slight overlap, but like once a year they have to add an extra week to make it 6 wokes per year
no longer in kbrs?


Where awlyca
she hiding
she knows the boys posted up waiting
She’s giving me another two weeks to get more timegazers 
or that 
no you wont lol

You don’t know me 
thats fair 


If she has wings I’ll quit for sure
tf why
we should add wings to heroes
yes
No more wings 
where do u find that pfp btw 
pixiv
riel
dont usually realize until i look at tags, unless its those photorealistic ones
I left there a while back…
Does anyone here have kelthur 9f and want to comment on it for TS?
yup for stall
thoran kelthur talene etc with seal is common
ur outdated yumi
lemme read his 9f, prob never gonna do but what does that help
basically I want to know if it actually makes his ghost survive much longer or not
Because the enemies just sit there ignoring him and waiting for talene to resurrect while seal slaps them to death
So just dodge
bc technically their target would be on talene which is going to revive , thats why they ignore him
but hes dead, and 9f(that skills) only triggers when hes alive, right
big seal
Only when he’s dead
Honestly Ira not to shabby til I figure something else out
Vei? 
308e0
Ivan will eat shards before he does
his 3f lets him use the dodge skill whiles he’s dead. But the enemies don’t target him if they’re waiting for talene anyway, so idk if it makes a big difference
i meant vei there for ira
nah he's in my r2
oh
but when hes dead enemies do not attack him
ira still there for debuff so i can move silas to r5

yeah they don’t attack him if they’re waiting for talene to res, but I think they do otherwise? That’s why I’m not sure if it’s worth getting or not
:shrug: my bet is no but i dont have him 9f so im not sure @granite mason

Fk I missed my alarm 
worth it
Juet an hr late
Yea like 27$ I missed out on 

if that's all yellow that's 50k poe
I feel like the counter lies/is wrong for some reason
but close enough
I checked and there’s no purples or blues if I check their boxes. The unused reds could maybe be it, but I have more than 7 of those so idk
Damn I have 16 unused red furniture xd
9 is orthros and some is Ivan
Is this okay? I'm on a new server if that matters
reds or baits for celestial isles i got 300 reds saved for next woke but nothin more
bait feels more important rn but i want another opinion
baits

does the Ira thing not work on soren?
was the ira bug fixed 😮
I think so idk
damn i didn't get to kill soren 😦
what's a good soren team? i have bert trial still
Prob Abel Bert dae Ivan Rosa or some shit idk
tf
dragon it’s not rehab if ur having triple digit numbers of them each day
Shaky ass hands
I'm only top 7% and I used it
Enjoy the year acc lock you cheater 
so that's like 6% of legends playerbase using it
plus probably a lot more at lower ranks
they'd lose half their whales
If they do for some reason go with that method I'ma hit the refund button 

Myu what you running for first two teams if smog?
6f i got 3 cards
How many tg u at?
why not mae in awtha
bcs she can clean the rest if awtha dies
and mae on dims.. feel like she doesnt do much
Atha in my region ends fights in 5 secs 
Any improvements for my t4? Pets in order: Lion 18, Seal 15, Talis 12, RCL 9.
If not flops I'll test it thx
ivan steals pot
356 rn but i still needs get all the tg from rift, and then on top of the free tg should get me close to 450. i’m pulling anyway even if i don’t have “enough”
and team 3 sucks no real dps
Do you have shards and cores ready
Is that a bad thing? I can adjust order if needed, but outside ice I thought Ivan ulting early might be good…
@earnest tendon do you need my Mae ?
yeah i’ve got 6k+ shards and about 7k cores
i got a mae from someone else already, ty anyway
he regens energy verifast so he doesnt need rowan pot

Was asleep sorry 
abel needs it more
for dae and woke

nitro kraken
Dae does not need e60 do you have anyone you can e4x?
Rem or emi? Maybe 
i was about to ask that lmao. rem done and i think i did emi but i’ll check
yeah both done
Show box sorted by engraving
Yeah - I don’t have Zol or burst woke, so this is my budget invade/burst. It actually doesn’t do too bad in my freegion r39. Mulan puts out big damage. Other options are not great either — split Waden GBs without Alna, or run second dims (which I think is bad in smog since Albedo useless).
Cool, will rearrange that team.
Do you have dae yet?
You do sorry I'm blind
if it doesnt go well u can try waden there
Haha no worries.
not enough shards
Yes you do
only for 1 hero to go e30
yeah ofc
Yeah, I’ll monitor and swap Waden for maybe Anasta if that team doesn’t do well.
AR pack is ready to rumble
Id e4x palmer 
He is big help
You should have cores and shards from rift by the time next woke comes
not shards
Yes shards
Next e30 recommendations? Candidates I’m considering (roughly in priority order): Estrilda, Nevanthi, Eorin, Edwin.
You get enough shards from shop
+1 on est
Woke is like 2 weeks away
Or more right +another week for discount summon
You have 3 weeks +
60+ shards a week
You have enough 
/day

Woke should be in two weeks
Day for test tho..
Oh yea 60+ shards a day my bad
Running low on sleep
Drinking monster tea as we speak
I just woke up lmoa
Woke up early today
Yeah it's 4pm

Nitro done left 
"early"
I don't work on my thesis on wed so I sleep at my normal times
I've been at work for 20min and I already want to go back to bed
Woke up at 3:30pm but usually it's 4 or 5
Cool, Estrilda it is then. She’s flat e30 for skill, no extra nodes right?
yeah
iirc there is an old cr kane r6 in the past that needs est to have exactly 24 haste, but 
Just use ira for Kane 
isn't it patched already ?
Huh, weird. If it’s an old comp, I probably don’t use it anyway.
Yea but still use her and pray she breaks the game again 
sorry i was fixing my computer you were there yesterday when i complained about the ict
yeah i fuckin fixed it myself
stupid ass IT guys i brought it in today and they said they can’t fix it and to bring it into computer shop
Use Ira in TS 
so they can fix it
@fair rapids overall thoughts on mae vs wathalia? have been thinking of going atha for months now but having second thoughts now that i’ll be unlocking NC and CR soon and mae is much better there. ik atha is amazing for TS but does mae have teams like this that are ultra cheap and get decent wr
or anyone else help if you want lmao
this is assuming i don’t do alyca tho
also is alyca gonna be agility or strength or intelligence
how could we even begin to know anything about lyca
i have no idea i was just wondering if there was a “pattern” or something that would indicate
unless some lilith dev wants to leak right now 
we better get some leaks soon i wanna see if she looks cool
all the previous wokes have followed their non woke counterparts in terms of agi/str/intl so that should mean she’s agi then
but to answer the question tbh wath probably easier to use if you don’t have any real hypo team to build around mae for ts and if you don’t have orthros 9f
but considering it takes me 3-4 months to build a woke would my NC and CR be noticeably worse in that period if i didn’t go mae?
no orthros no
so in the time it takes to get orthros and all the hypos to build around mae to get her going for ts, it’ll be time for another woke to build anyways
so mae has no budget teams? ik you can slap her in just about anything but she can’t solo carry anything can she
not as far as i know, had the same question between ath and mae a while ago and seemed like even i didn’t have the hypos for mae yet
whenever new ts starts and I open the gamemode I have some really old teams saved there and not the teams I used previous ts why is that?
new debuff
cycles in the teams you used last time on that debuff not the recent previous ones
Teams are saved to the TS colour
Those are the teams you used last Smog
smog
oh ok thanks
I need to set my ts teams 
Idk what to use, ig no abel given how poorly she has been doing recently
I'll test AwBel at 4T, don't think I even owned her last Smog
remember when Ainz was good at pvp 
First two teams for me last smog were : alna abel and wutus merlin rem emi wolise 
Wutus Gb was really good last smog for some reason
what year is it 
1986
No go ahead
Yuumi got one while I was asleep 
don't forget to run NC/CR while you still have trials 

I think I would go atha bc you could make her team cheaper but Mae would free up a NC Merc
so would atha
is a tough decision
aezizh better
no aezizh has some real use
I have both
atalene is just a barricade bearer 
By both I mean Talene and Ezizh
I think it all Abt what u want
Build Mae and Athalia at the same time so by the time they get mythic more important Awakened heroes would have already been released
idk what i want
both are great options
Ffs I didnt manage to do wrizz and soren with the bug 
I did not get soren
I was asleep during the ira incident 
no 20b CR round
idk if they'll remove them from the leaderboard 
Myu showed a ss of them saying they gonna lock accs for 365 days but that happens 90% of there player base is gone

It's bs
I don't think they'd do that
Ik
VeriJumpScare 
No longer below average I see 
I was at 6.6% now I'm at 5.8% in cr 

Veritas can go to hell

What did he do ?
102 cards 
I need to run both CR/NC before my luci trial expire 
102 cards got me 1 bert copy 
Kept on getting pities in everything
yeah fuck veritas, I've always been team Mendacium anyway
Boosted rates 
no 
Can't buy 200$ worth of sg everyday
All those sg where saved from Luci and from tower
So cruke basically f2p
I'm saving 200 for Mae star 
leftovers cards that you bought for luci aren't what I would have called f2p 
No Luci cards where leftover from Bert deals
So 5 Bert deals got me 2.5 cellepog
And woke star
still not f2p 
VeriF2Pwym
Did you run some CR/NC yet ? 
Whos Veritas and whos Mendacium? 
This ^
With Ira bug yeah


Ask him 
Well he kinda said it above ig
You'll get it the way you got your f2p sg 


VeriBribe 
Through coping? 

💳
Did you really think Veri managed to handle his 3 accounts by himself, and sometimes do campaign on other accounts ?
They are two different person Veritas and Mendacium
Does he share his discord too 
wait really or am I getting baited
VeriTrue
Did you know Heart and Legis are actually 2 people as well?
No only one has access to the discord at a time, it's Either veri or mendacium talking
Did you know S1xEyes is 6 people
can confirm, Legis is a bitch

Yeah I'm actually six cyclopes 
Dragon left chat
don't want to be mean but that's weird
picked your path on R4 yet ?
Don't deneye meye eyedentity
Blue path only path
Btw dragon did you notice that they released another 12 episodes of baki? Seems they reached the end of the manga now
Oh today we pick paths
Yeah path and team setting is open now
Gonna go red I think
I haven't tried to do the early team setting bug this smog 

I went green 
I've watched first 3
Good so far
Now I wanna go green
What would you suggest between Atha and Saf Veri ?

Gets better towards the end 
No bulli pls
Nah ull bully me I'll go red
Saf seems better
I'll watch rest
in 2 days 

More cr usage, life isn't ts only 
But saf is good Cr NC and ts
Yea fair point
More flexible
But if you want better TS atha is so fun

Maybe next woke gonna be completly broken
Lyca gonna be hyper support
Ehhh even then, I'd rather get a support woke cuz ik they'll last longer
Yea saf will last longer 💯
I do'nt think I'll be able to really improve my rank in TS R4 now.
So might aswell go towards something more CR/NC focused idk
That gona get replaced by next DPS invade/burst woke
Oh yea your r4 
Getting below 2% is going to be hard ig
Yeah R4 buddies with Veri 
that's f2p sg 
I think I'd get more TS benefit out of AwSaf anyway 
Fat rem job team
dragon too whel
how close/far are you from next woke ?
I'm not my teams for TS are small
Like halfway there, so roughly 2-3 months away
just in time for GB woke 
Feel like this is a lie
i may be f2p but im not blind
Just smash everything and get the chests 
They are bad tbh
Maybe get me t50 again tho
Just don't hardlock yourself on the last part

sowy
That's why your getting gatekept out of t50 
verinub

bro spent 100x than me and still not in t20 such nub
im f2p
100x a stretch 

Yea f2p haxer
By next ice I'ma be t20 
Need to catch up on investments
next ice 
Dragon has probably spent more money on AFK in August than I've spent this year on anything 

If you're f2p, means you've spent 0$, then 100*0$ is still 0
so dragon f2p 


Same here lmao
All the bugged Ira getting cleared pushed my CR rank up 
anyone has twins available
I guess mine are free
Normal twins? Mine are
nope the aw ones
is there awk twins
he was talking about bert and luci ig
call artis pls
Are you mercing twins for TR 

there you go 
I couldn't even get dia 5 using maxed AwSol merc 
Day 1 teams~
rcl, seal

are these teams looking ok or should I change something?
I'd like to have a built bert, but lilith said f u
If I used everything I'd be able to get him to M+ but wouldn't have enough for A 
I used everything and even more and got him to M 
I'm doing this
200sg and around 115-120k dias
5* wokes wth Kaia....
Sounds like my rates 
tf is your name 

yeah it's sad 
Hand over some sg pls
320 for M seems pretty not bad though, that's 40 per
683 tg and Mae not done 
I'm completely out >_>
Big yikes
Go for that over 700 
I'ma whale 120 tn bc I'm out 

that's 400+ not 320 isn't it ?
Oh 100k dia is 200 
on your way for a world record 

pls send help I'm out of dias
i wonder if anyone ever hit pity on every single copy to A
If someone did I doubt that this person is still alive
430 to M is like 54 per, which is bad but not unreasonably bad
💀
pls stop telling me it could be even worse
Will you stop ffs
That's how to make someone ragequit 
I'm already laying on the floor, crying
Holding u 
M is halfway to A1, you just need to get better luck for the 2nd half 
tell that to lilith 
I need to save for woke too
hello 
hi
Go hit nc/cr celowz
Hola
We
While you still have trial
We're all dummed
Fuck
My trials already expired
i popped on saturday
I see
would'nt imagine i would need them today cause of a bug
Ira bug already got cleared from ranks and fixed
Mine should've had time left but they're gone
(I've already done my CR/NC anyway tho)
lilith did a little bit of trolling ?
so dumb, i lost 3k dias on retries, no refund and no trials
They said they were going to refund dias
That's op wtf
for only 20$


Got a spooder copy (finaly)
i don't think i can even get 6 NC kills 😠
I need ~750 more bait 
i think it already refunded?
they werent
the diamonds
I still don't know if I should spice trick
you got 5k from the tuna can event
yeah maybe
Get ducked myu


If you don't care about better r6 then spice trick imo
For what ?
Seal 18
i have 14k now
so it should be 20k if its refunded
Will take me roughly 8 more 10x for Seal 18

imagine burning 4k on cr and 2k nc just to see ira goes brr
So my 69.8b attempt is going down the drain 

Myu gacha addict 

Imagining spending 4k on CR just for a rank worse than 50% 


THEY RESET IT NOOOOO
Yeah ira got reset
it wasn't just ira 
celowz do you think u can kill 6 bosses
i'm trying right now
I don't think veri was hitting 70b without ira 
i dont think i can
BUT MY NC TRIALS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
me too
My time is going to be like 30s worse next NC without trials 
I did one nc hit for 5:35 and 3 cr for 30b. Guess I won't need to retry more 
they resetted everything or only tries with ira ?
Only ira

They reset everything for the people who used her
So I'm safe 
Oh yeah, only people who used Ira
Not everyone
thats why my tr is resetted
I wonder if they reset campaign if someone actually used ira
8m

My e twins somehow hit higher than 30930 twins in tr 
Did they reset wrizz/soren for the people who used her there?

still see my 1T in the log so prob not

Guess I won't be killing them for another while
AwBel release made wrizz+soren 1T a joke anyway, before that it was like RC600 to get it
that's insane 
I did only 4m50 with bert merc and luci trial 
what rc do i need then i ain’t killed those mfs yet
Depends on beasts, but like 470-500 for non krakens ig
Gooksta got it at rc450 and that was before Ivan and dae I think. Need to check what the meta is now. Maybe 390 is enough
dammit
I need to reduce it by 30s 
how 
I got <4m only once iirc
i can't stop puppets healing 

Rhino acc 
You either:
Stop the healing with invested lucilla + spooder
Ignore it and burst during shields down
600? 
yeah I figured, but it's f2p too right ?
what wokes do you have there already ?
No fking way it's f2p 
i hope the refund from the attemps is also coming 😠
what investment lucilla needs?
i want 60k
for the anti heal
Idk, prob like 20330 or 20930
ok, i'm fucked 
Nah not f2p. Athane asaf swolise wutus abel waden
Only thing f2p in there are pets 
Oh that’s why 
You’re spending or you inherited the account ?
Inherited

where alyca leaks 
Ultimate - Lyca shoots arrows at all enemies dealing 100000% damage per second without stopping
Skill 1 to 3 - Lyca gains 1000000 energy instantly at the start of the battle
Cant wait
4b less dmg 


u will pity every copy which means 12 x 70 = 840 gazers required 
kinda insane that some take half of what others require to gaze an awakened just coz of luck
if u get max pity twice in. a row
just stop and go outside have a nice walk go sleep go eat
I go push towers to get more sg/tg 

@spice finch rejoice
atleast that 

i dont have 50% of yours
i got fucking lucky

10 + 30 + 40(2) + 10 + 20 + 30 + 10 + 63 this is what i got today
last one was bad but everything else 
and i got a 30k dias
I wont 
That would be a repeat of Mae
:wtfisthis:
COMPENSATION

I guess you are above me so i dont care
f u
wrong
R44 changed to a bad place 

i'm broke for the first time in a while tho
time to impulsively start awthalia with my smol amount of TE if Woke lyca aint ts hero
What the
verilucky
Dont you have like 60k in guild chests?
use those
i meant si/engraving/furn
If you could have multiple copies of any one hero, so you could use them on multiple teams, who would you choose?
Alna or Dae 
Ivan cus borken and easy to build 
Solid picks. Luci and aath are others that came to mind for me.
ye between alna, dae or ivan 
Gm whales

I am hoping Potato Noodle loses in LC before he faces me but I know he won't 
He has better comps than me >_>
kaia will you end up facing the Asulgard guy or are servers too far apart
or o i just have no understanding of LC and it’s impossible for you to face him
they are together 
oh i have extreme blindness jeez
I am expecting to face him in LC finals if I don't lose to Potato Noodle first
i don't know how the bracket works but they can face eachother
if you beat potato noodle do you reckon you’ll win
the threats to me this LC are Zoker, Bench, Quang, Potato Noodle and Asulgard
Asulgard is the wild card because his growth is unpredictable
His tree is already bigger than mine, but in 4 days it could grow a ton more, plus his pets could be even bigger (already he has some pets 22+)
he might start maxing furn or going for si40
the good news is LC region 36 should be coming Soon™️
and he should definitely be there
yeah I just need devs to hurry up with the split 
ask them to split NC regions too while we're at it 😠
💯
quang seems like he’s good and knows what he’s doing but he’s not amazing at adapting his team comps
i feel like you could beat him
🫡
i wish i could bet on kaia 
qian safe bet I think 
the more I see of wager odds the more I realize the masses have absolutely no idea lol
my apprentice sent me the potato noodle odds
I can only assume the folks betting on ben are all going for the loss achievement
Egida is a funny guild
they have so many strong players but so many people just wilding
it’s very funny i’ve seen a lot of members with some very funky hero investments
these are Ben's comps
so many of them are doing wack shit I sometimes wonder if they're actually being encouraged to run this stuff
Rowan is worse 
there’s no shot someone said to him that she’s a good hero for pvp, and in 3rd pos too
don’t even get me started
You know him from there?
ben brode is the name of a former lead developer for heathstone 
All random?
he's on marvel snap now tho 
Ah I see
kaia doesnt like card games? 
do you have his furn?
The comp preview doesn't work, unless you're looking at fight history
it's the same comps as his fight history 👍
i got 6f 3 cards but dragon said not to card to 9
I like Poker, Dominion, Magic, Gin Rummy, maybe some others I'm not thinking of right now
Mahjong is like gin rummy on crack
haha I bet I'd like it
mahjong always looked too complicated so i never bothered trying to learn 
It's simple to understand the fundamentals but idk anything beyond that 
Like knowing how chess pieces move but knowing zero strategy
I feel like chess isn't even strategic until you're at a really high level
it's pattern recognition until like 2000 rating lol
Just as an example
yeah fair
Anyone got a big naroko 
Naroko is best in R1 but doesn't improve it that much unless kraken invest







