treasure-scramble

[sour jay]

I'm always off by 1, I keep thinking I'm 42

[flat tapir]

oh? let me ask u this s1xeyes. whaat would u use in place of olgath for mae comp

[cinder willow]

usually its mae cruke frampton olgath mortas

[rich tree]

2 baeden away from 1*

[flat tapir]

usually its mae cruke frampton olgath mortas

WTF. aint no fuckin shot.

guys is haelus good in ts? or can i skip him

[cinder willow]

are you at my window

[sour jay]

haelus is good for belinda and thane comps... prob athaliaa too

[flat tapir]

kk i can go haelus next then

[sour jay]

wouldn't skip plus he's good in other modes

[cinder willow]

good support flex

[flat tapir]

my cruke should be done this week

[cinder willow]

do veith first if you havent

[restive goblet]

He’s mostly used with Belinda or thane. I think he’s supposed to be good with athalia

[rich tree]

haelus 9f tho is death

[sour jay]

you got vei and dae already right irelia

[flat tapir]

hes done

yes my vei and daemia are both done (both need 9f and engraving tho)

[cinder willow]

probably time for haelus then you can send your box if you want a detailed inspection though

[flat tapir]

im doing cruke over haelus rn, but im a whale so keep in mind doesnt rly matter what order i do in xd unless im delaying a champ several champs down

as im also currently building mae

[sour jay]

just make sure you're balancing your whaling so you don't end up with 3 poorly invested celepo

[rich tree]

[cinder willow]

aefryn 100% a member of shark school

[rich tree]

guilty

[sour jay]

oh yeah new nihilum shark

[flat tapir]

i need to get an actual woke comp started, mae comp seems disgustingly far down the line tho

[rich tree]

working on e30 dae then going to 309e60 baeden

[spice finch]

5p... worked?

[cinder willow]

mae comp is very very whaley though so depends if you think its worth hyperfocusing 1 comp only

[flat tapir]

aefryn same region Pog. lucky ass got remilia

[flat tapir]

yeah, i can get her to e60 si30 instantly though too so thats nice

the mae comp will take me a month to build

i usually build 2 of a cele or hypo a week

or 2 weeks

[cinder willow]

holy whale

you need to get some cores and bait

[flat tapir]

im almost reso 9

im gna dump 200 dollars this friday to finish reso 9

[cinder willow]

spice trick

[flat tapir]

i have 6.7k cores rn

[cinder willow]

dont activate res9 yet imo unless youre missing rcl9

[oak yarrow]

Goldfish

[cinder willow]

spice trick tf out of it

[flat tapir]

yeah i need rcl9

[cinder willow]

you should spice trick tbh

[flat tapir]

and whats the spice trick, i got told it might not even be worth to do it

[oak yarrow]

Spice trick?

[flat tapir]

ive been using my spices to account for my bad rng when getting to a reso

so for example, my lion ill need to use spices for to get to reso9

[cinder willow]

basically instead of clicking res9/12 you get extra copies of pets and when you click res9 it refunds the extra copies as spice bags so you can dump them all into 1 pet instead of spreading it out into 3

[flat tapir]

which im like positive is exactly what ur suppose to do besides the "spice trick"

[rich tree]

I thought res 9 is worth it? I asked in nih and 9 seems too good to pass up

[flat tapir]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[rich tree]

I'm tricking 12 tho

[flat tapir]

that makes sense

yeah aefryn MAYBE i heard that too

[sour jay]

general agreement is getting reso 9 naturally then spice trick reso 12 yeah. idk if it changes for whales

[cinder willow]

if you had rcl9 it makes sense to trick it

[oak yarrow]

Oh I did that for 9 I thought I was js tripping that’s y lion 12

[sour jay]

might be worth just hard saving spice for seal 18 too, idk that's a hard call

[cinder willow]

kinda an issue running abel without it

you have mae so seal18 will be very op if you save spice bags for him

his squirt does damage

[sour jay]

[flat tapir]

quakie are u actually knowledgable about the game

can anyone vouch for him

[cinder willow]

;-;

[sour jay]

quakie

[rich tree]

so I'm at res9, just leave seal in there for life and don't bother pressing res 12 til I can seal 18

[flat tapir]

sent u a friend request

thank u for the help

so ill get to reso9 and then trick to 12? u think?

[rich tree]

sounds fun

[flat tapir]

or should i just wait to do reso9 and then trick my seal/lion to 12

what do u guys think?

thats essentially what ur saying to do right

[cinder willow]

i mean i would personally but you kinda want rcl9 really badly, i can ask in nihi if you want though

some whale can give better advice

[rich tree]

did you press res6?

[flat tapir]

u can, im trying to get into nihi. who do i dm 😐

and yes aefryn ofc.

[sour jay]

i'll dm you an invite to the server, it's public

[flat tapir]

i needes reso 6 and some 9 pets bad lol

[rich tree]

o, ya you missed the spice trick at 6

that's how I got rcl 9 at res 6

[flat tapir]

i couldve waited i think but def getting 2 level 9 pets has helped me a fuck ton in the game

[sour jay]

you're whaling enough it might be good to trick 9 for lion 12 then trick 12 for seal 18 idk

[flat tapir]

joux yeah thats what im gna do i think

[cinder willow]

i sent a message for you

[rich tree]

oo sounds like my plan for future is set

[cinder willow]

but no idk what im doing ;-;

[sour jay]

personally I'm just tricking 12 and hard saving spice for seal

[rich tree]

oh wait can't trick 9 I think it'll be 12 and seal

[sour jay]

why you can't trick 9? you have every pet already?

[rich tree]

yeah

[sour jay]

[latent elbow]

When you have enough pet lvl 6 you don't activate reso ?

[rich tree]

I res 9 cuz nih

[sour jay]

ah yeah it's fine

[cinder willow]

because i didnt spice trick im in this annoying ass predicament

[flat tapir]

hoyl fuck

[rich tree]

correct, get 1 copies of others and extra to spice rcl to 9 at least

[sterile zinc]

everyone at 11

[rich tree]

my future huh

[flat tapir]

3 level 11s that looks horrible

[cinder willow]

basically instead of clicking res6/9/12 you get extra copies of pets and when you click res9 it refunds the extra copies as spice bags so you can dump them all into 1 pet instead of spreading it out into 3

seal is 1 off 12 lion and talis are 2

[flat tapir]

ok guys i need to ask u something, be honest

do u think i fucked up massively by not spice tricking reso 6

[sterile zinc]

Spice trick 12

[cinder willow]

nah

its early stage and if you whale bait its early fix

[sour jay]

nah early pets are kinda irrelevant ngl. some 9s are nice but you are only missing them for a short period

[spice finch]

in your case you should probaby level every pet to 12

[proven hearth]

15 seconds of fame

[sterile zinc]

[flat tapir]

i wont lie, level 9 pets have been the biggest power spike in the game

nothing has come even close. even a new woke built

[sour jay]

you haven't even seen the real pet power spikes lol

[cinder willow]

9 owl rcl talis lion are big but others kinda meh still until 12+

[sour jay]

12 and 18 are massive for most pets

[flat tapir]

my seal legitimately can solo campaign teams

[cinder willow]

[latent elbow]

Ok ! And you save spice after 6 or you can use them to go 9 ?

[sour jay]

15 big for seal too

[proven hearth]

I didn’t fix thoran’s gear

[flat tapir]

Ok so, I'm going to pull pets normally to get my 3 pets to 9 and then im going to just sit on reso 6 with 9 being ready to activate and do tons of pulls

[rich tree]

just don't press reso button, take screen shot and let us know if u should press it

[flat tapir]

so regardless getting reso 9 doesn't matter since i have the main pets at 9

[rich tree]

we will advise how many spices or copies/wishlist

[flat tapir]

maybe ill drop 500 dollars on pets on friday then

[gaunt marten]

why

[sour jay]

things like moth, blade, fox 9 can help too tho

[gaunt marten]

theres no good deals rn

[cinder willow]

so you will have your 4/5 pets at 6, it will say click to activate res6. instead you put other pets in your wl and summon for them but dont level them up so it will be like 7/2 pets on your extra ones, then when you have enough pets in excess to get rocklizard from 6 to 9 and then you activate the reso and it refunds n-1 spices for every excess pet you have

[sour jay]

irelia doesn't need good deals to spend

[flat tapir]

ok i was joking

I WAS JOKING. but i am 100% forcing my pets to level 9 on friday

[sour jay]

there should be an exchange event to whale soon tho

[flat tapir]

i want the main pets at 9 for TS if im going to sit on pets

the thing is, i wont have to spend THAT much

i need to buy the good yuexi bundles and i can probably get the special box from pity

[gilded salmon]

ok this seal stall is not it

[flat tapir]

which is +1k bait

[sour jay]

just win the record lottery on spices a bunch it's easy

[flat tapir]

i won the lottery on 10 time cards today, i legit got 60

[cinder willow]

im not using seal until t5

im using fox with stall

[spice finch]

eironn is trolling right now

[sour jay]

eironn fucking sucks

need aaron

[sterile zinc]

He don’t got enough haste

[spice finch]

he dumb

[sterile zinc]

We need Aaron

[proven hearth]

Engraving fixes that

[latent elbow]

Alright thanks !

[cinder willow]

yenn lowkey carrying

[spice finch]

good start

[flat tapir]

ngl thinking abut pets

makes me want to kraken so hard rn but i have self control

i wont swipe my credit card 😡

[spice finch]

that's a cool team

[cinder willow]

its pretty op

[rich tree]

just don't think? it's a long con thing

[flat tapir]

cool to see Joan being used 😄

i think im like 20k lab coins away from her! shes my first dim besides garrison albedo

[sour jay]

I'm not using joan she never helps

[flat tapir]

im going to swipe 100 dollars for mulan wheenver i have shit to invest into her

[cinder willow]

i love joan

[flat tapir]

so probably like.... 4 weeks?

mulan just isnt a priority for me right now

[spice finch]

are you running another dim comp?

[sour jay]

you already got mulan on furn wl right?

[flat tapir]

yep

[flat tapir]

i already have 3f for joan also and 3f for albedo

[sour jay]

her 309e60 is a fucking beast in TS even tho it's kinda overinvestment overall cause she's basically just a TS hero

[flat tapir]

ok guys so i need an opinion

[latent elbow]

You missed Remilia, that's sad

[flat tapir]

vei 9f daemia 9f or aathalia 9f

[spice finch]

oh, i was gonna ask who was your 5th dim there, but it's abrutus

[flat tapir]

decide.

[sour jay]

all 3

[flat tapir]

ok which one first. dont make me angy.

[cinder willow]

thalia

[sour jay]

they're all kinda optional but good, hard to say tbh

[flat tapir]

i have cards i need to use so

[sour jay]

vei 9f mostly for NC tho

[cinder willow]

if you have veith30 you can just run burst team with thalia

so juice dps thalia imo

[flat tapir]

i need to get her si30. im like 80 chests off

[latent elbow]

is there any consensus on the 2nd best woke ?

[flat tapir]

so basically just buying 1 red chest bundle should do it

[cinder willow]

probably mae

[flat tapir]

its maetria/baden

i dont really think people will agree on which one

[latent elbow]

Maetria works with non-whale teams ?

[flat tapir]

thats a good question, i dont know either

[cinder willow]

mae can work with gbs as super budget, works with stall, works with burst

as well as hypos

[latent elbow]

I may be dumb but what's the point of playing her with hypos ? Her SP seems useless in this case

[spice finch]

it counts twice

[latent elbow]

wtf

[cinder willow]

it doubles 5x hypo buff

so you get like +30 haste iirc

[gaunt marten]

opposite of useless lol

[latent elbow]

I get it

[gaunt marten]

yes

something i continue to spread the word of

[cinder willow]

did i preach well gabe

[gaunt marten]

bc we are like over 2 woke past her and ppl still fucking think she is niche whale hero

which just escapes me

yes good job quakie

[cinder willow]

gabe vouches for me

[proven hearth]

Alt luck is something else

[cinder willow]

sheesh

[spice finch]

[latent elbow]

tbh I don't really know her, I heard about the whaley things. She carried me through 50 floors on hypo tower at L, that was nice

[lime zinc]

People looking at Mae 5 Hypo and calling it kraken without realising that AwSol uses Tarnos and Cruke or AwBaden

[spice finch]

asol best woke tho

[cinder willow]

she looks good atleast

[proven hearth]

She had to have fox this season to work correctly with all hypos. Now she’s been shoved with Thoran stall gonna see how it goes

[spice finch]

5 teams?

[proven hearth]

Yes, for 5 teams

Solise stole Ezizh

[cinder willow]

inch a resting

[sterile zinc]

Oh really? That’s interesting how does that look

[sour jay]

Mae is frustrating to make work sometimes but she can

[cinder willow]

very interesting

[gaunt marten]

i mean still gets fielded before abel a lot

[proven hearth]

Our pvp channel has been full of nothing else lol

[gaunt marten]

abel is lucky ivan exists now

[spice finch]

whats frampton role in stall?

[flat tapir]

ready for my ivan to be ascended tonight

[proven hearth]

Stun iirc

[gaunt marten]

cc

[flat tapir]

i already have 3f for him too

[gaunt marten]

you can use trez if no fram

[sterile zinc]

If only tarnos has more use than just being with solise in pvp

Would be more interested in building him

[gaunt marten]

he does

[cinder willow]

i used him in trift

[gaunt marten]

he doesnt have to be in solise its just where he ends up but yeah he is pvp hero

he goes in a team that needs antidive

[sterile zinc]

I see

[gaunt marten]

ppl built him to counter athane now he just kinda goes in a few places

[lime zinc]

Which slot has Ivan taken most on AwBel, guessing Raine or Haelus...?

Or ezizh ig

[gaunt marten]

hes not even used w asolise in abaden comp at later teams lol

[sterile zinc]

Did not know that

[gaunt marten]

ive seen a few variations with replacing both not sure which is better

[sterile zinc]

I replaced ezizh but only because mine isn’t built, not sure which is actually meta

[gaunt marten]

it depends on region and bracket

like hythlo for example is living in a different country from me and we are in a different world from you

so mileage my vary

[proven hearth]

Makes me sound like an alien

[solid monolith]

you are

[spice finch]

[solid monolith]

[proven hearth]

[spice finch]

what is this

[flat tapir]

LOL WTF

[cinder willow]

let him coke

[sour jay]

You just got woke saladded

[gaunt marten]

coke

[flat tapir]

thats like a 3 thousand dollar team if not more

[gaunt marten]

weird investments

abel wants stars especially

[lime zinc]

I'll obvs test him in a bunch of comps when mine is usable anyway

I could get A done now but can't even 303 so I'm not doing it yet

[flat tapir]

i have like 2 months at least i think before i can start putting stars on my wokes via gazer

[gaunt marten]

dumbshit idea

[lime zinc]

I'm not even sure where I'd use cruke if I had him (no AwSol or Mae)

[gaunt marten]

you dont even have all major celepogs done

[proven hearth]

Awakened soup

[safe wave]

in abel obviously

[lime zinc]

Stars on AWs is an extremely long term goal

[flat tapir]

i think ill have almost all of them done in like 2 months maybe gabe

[gaunt marten]

even for whales and also we will have another woke and another hypo by then

[lime zinc]

[sour jay]

My burst just lost to talismane... Like, he killed 3 of my units alone

[cinder willow]

dont do stars until youre done with other heroes

[flat tapir]

u might be right yeah idk how long itll take me exactly

[gaunt marten]

talismane does stupid dmg

[flat tapir]

i usually get 2 done every 2 weeks

[proven hearth]

[safe wave]

i spent 1900 diamonds on 10 emblem chests

[gaunt marten]

sometimes talis goes insane

[flat tapir]

ur being very goofy right meow

[gaunt marten]

putting stars on woke is something you do after you have actually built teams

[safe wave]

i needed 3 more to +30 ivan

[flat tapir]

😐

u got a +30 ivan.....

i have so much other shit to +30 before i can take him over +20

[safe wave]

no..

[flat tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/im-angy-angry-no-talk-with-me-sloaney-panda-gif-14286263

[safe wave]

i don't have his furn or stars though

[flat tapir]

coom

[safe wave]

no use in pvp yet :(

[flat tapir]

i have 3f for him and i wont have a star on him either for a bit

im doing him 4 hcp and then im doing 1 hcp so i can get nevanthi ascended

[safe wave]

he needs 9f

[flat tapir]

as i also have nevanthis 3f

[sour jay]

Im liking Ivan at E ngl

[safe wave]

i don't remember nevanthis furn but i got her 9f on principle

[flat tapir]

its going to delay my gazing a bit but ivan and both nevanthi are great and i can use them both in ts i believe

[safe wave]

ivan and nevanthi work well together too

[flat tapir]

silly is an ivan enjoyer and she also likes hot waifus 🥹

[safe wave]

nevanthi buffs ivan from his summons and he buffs ur carry with nevanthis buff

[gaunt marten]

i got her 36f

[flat tapir]

it must be raining 🥹

[safe wave]

ivan is weird looking i only like his skills

[flat tapir]

k

[safe wave]

😟

[cinder willow]

harrizzment

[gaunt marten]

they keep making the models really detailed and they look weird squished down on the actual battlefield

like all the details get just lost

[flat tapir]

jk i unblock also im gna use his pfp over daemia probably

[gaunt marten]

can you stop spamming anime shit

[solemn sage]

I've been rank 12-20th so far with no ivan

[safe wave]

ill stick with abel pfp for the foreseeable future

[flat tapir]

😐 @gaunt marten

[safe wave]

[gaunt marten]

im still also in my normal range

[flat tapir]

i didnt play when abels pfp was out

[solemn sage]

I'm normally in the 20-30 range

[flat tapir]

and i also didnt get aathalias but i dont care about pfps

[solemn sage]

but asaf daemia is OP

[gaunt marten]

but it looks like ivans going really good in some regions rn

[safe wave]

im glad i got veithaels pfp bcos its nice

[cinder willow]

this mf needs to piss off

[gaunt marten]

lmao

[safe wave]

gii

[gaunt marten]

that alna is some 5head shit

[flat tapir]

is e80 alna even necessary

[cinder willow]

they keep dropping my rank

[gaunt marten]

no, slime mold behavior

[safe wave]

i only engraved alna for pcap

[safe wave]

u just not showing the 28% one?

[gaunt marten]

its abel isnt it

[gaunt marten]

oh its not

[safe wave]

rip

[solemn sage]

had to scroll for it

this is rank 12 winrates against some pretty big whales

[safe wave]

no tamrus is clearly ur issue

[solemn sage]

so 28% not actually that bad

[gaunt marten]

yeah the new font being bigger is nice for me bc i cant see good but it pushes everything further down on the screen

[solemn sage]

I have tamrus, just wasn't in the teams I copied

but probably going back to stall with seal

[cinder cargo]

Hate to see it

[gaunt marten]

i also hate to see you too jd

[solemn sage]

I'm 10 ranks higher than I normally am so I'm not complaining

[cinder cargo]

oh that's nice

maetria is that bad?

[gaunt marten]

yeah when you push higher it makes wr look weird

[solemn sage]

I'm against krakens

[safe wave]

not too bad right?

[flat tapir]

yep

[gaunt marten]

depends on rank

[flat tapir]

u only vs people in ur win % division or w.e right

[safe wave]

2%

[gaunt marten]

what would you even know about that

[spice finch]

chicken dims

[flat tapir]

😐

[safe wave]

idk im bad at pvp

[solemn sage]

When everyone else is using the OP asaf team and a 70-80% winrate seal team

[spice finch]

chicken dims is cool

[flat tapir]

just swipe

[cinder cargo]

swap emi to abrutus team and use seal there. Use another support for alna rem like ezio

[solemn sage]

the other teams will drop winrate hard

[gaunt marten]

yeah

[safe wave]

my ezio is +10

[flat tapir]

people use ezio?

[gaunt marten]

its the issue i have where i win against krakens, pop up into their world for a bit, my weaker teams lose, and then my weaker teams also get hit by ppl below me

[cinder cargo]

ezio is really good for alna rem comp if you are not vip 25 like gabe is

[gaunt marten]

i have ezio i just dont use him bc i hav 4749232038 other options

[flat tapir]

hes vip 25?

[gaunt marten]

jd trolling

[solemn sage]

imagine not having the newest awakened and newest cele both fully built

[safe wave]

[gaunt marten]

im missing 1f on dae

[flat tapir]

i wont have to imagine when i have all of the prios done 😏

but that wont be for awhile maybe 4 months or something

maybe less

[safe wave]

btw does ivan si30 proc abels sp scaling?

[fair rapids]

JD in TS

[solemn sage]

I blew almost all my furn card stockpile for asaf + trish

[flat tapir]

daemia post up. what % or rank are u at

[solemn sage]

so ivan will have to wait a bit

got rank 1 AE though so worth

[gaunt marten]

very nice

[safe wave]

my trishea is e+ and going strong in wilder tower

[solemn sage]

just ignore that I was 2nd lowest damage

[flat tapir]

trishea 🤮 i accidentally have 4 e+ copies of her

[gaunt marten]

iris got first ever t20 ignore that i was spec

[cinder cargo]

nice

[safe wave]

did u get frame?

[gaunt marten]

yeye

[cinder cargo]

where did you place gabe

[safe wave]

my guild was like 300 something i think

[gaunt marten]

iris is 19th

[cinder cargo]

that's nice

[solemn sage]

I was debugging this while boss died

[gaunt marten]

first time any guild has gotten 4 branches in t20 in ae

[gaunt marten]

FUUUUCK

[solemn sage]

would have been like 10th lowest damage instead if I just blew through that stam with suboptimal hits

[gaunt marten]

god that hurts

[cinder cargo]

I mean it probably makes sense to BnB management

[safe wave]

444th

[gaunt marten]

i want hf now

[cinder cargo]

I want powercap nerf now

[gaunt marten]

im going to ask so many stupid questions

[solemn sage]

it's my own fault for not really testing that team ahead of time since it was working fine in sim

[sterile zinc]

I never played a HF. Is it like AE?

[safe wave]

i want gear engraving now

[gaunt marten]

like smaller ae

[solemn sage]

5.2 tank relics hurt it a lot

[gaunt marten]

you man 1 faction

[cinder cargo]

HF is easier to rank high as well

actually idk about AE now, but AE used to be pretty hard to get into top 100

[gaunt marten]

uhhhhh i guess?

[cinder cargo]

HF there's just not that many people that care

[solemn sage]

AE is easy to top 100 if you're old account

top 20 still hard

[cinder cargo]

like silver frame and higher in HF you need to actually do some thinking

[gaunt marten]

theres a lot more smaller groups of 5 people than there are groups of 70

[gilded salmon]

I still need sooo much rc before even thinking about comp ae or hf 🙃

[sterile zinc]

HF has a 2000 rank right

[solemn sage]

most of the difficult in AE falls to management though

[cinder cargo]

bronze is straight up participate and don't dip at master and you have a solid chance at bronze frame

[solemn sage]

line members just need to have a decent hero pool and follow the plan

[gaunt marten]

i mean thats basically ae too

[cinder cargo]

AE now at least ye

[sterile zinc]

You need RC for HF too? Lame

[safe wave]

i want sonja 9f before hf but it probably won't happen

[solemn sage]

HF is pretty variable by season

[gaunt marten]

the fuck do you think im cramming dust for

[solemn sage]

last HF was pretty much LB does all the work

[cinder cargo]

campaign the only real game mode

[sour jay]

Hf sucks cause spectate is only 80% value

[solemn sage]

have a good LB on team? you get frame

[sterile zinc]

[gaunt marten]

and no fram for spec in hf

[gilded salmon]

so annoying, I just want my frames

[flat tapir]

will i be able to do anything in HF

[gaunt marten]

not w that rc

[sour jay]

Yes you can give a carry all your material

[sterile zinc]

It ain’t for us

[gilded salmon]

fr

[flat tapir]

i dont vs people in my region?

[gaunt marten]

no

[cinder cargo]

I prefer the give @brisk urchin all my material

[gaunt marten]

its like ae

[flat tapir]

😐

[cinder cargo]

[solemn sage]

Anyone can get an HF frame if they find a couple good whales willing to carry

[gilded salmon]

Gabe carry me

[solemn sage]

always 2 or 3 trash factions

[cinder cargo]

I don't think you even need whales to carry anymore

[flat tapir]

HF kinda pointless for me then

[sterile zinc]

Wtb carry for HF

[gaunt marten]

you have good heroes though so you could path or farm and just give all your boss tokens to the whales to hit for you and then free frame

[flat tapir]

my rc is only 328 and im on 1077 so never gna catch up

[cinder cargo]

just get a team of decent players going for a frame and get the frame

[solemn sage]

I mean yeah if you're a decent player you don't need a carry

[gilded salmon]

so what are the shit factions

[safe wave]

what's ur bestest faction

[solemn sage]

but you can do almost nothing and still barely hold your team back

[gaunt marten]

youre a whale you could easily get at least bronze

[flat tapir]

GB most likely

[cinder cargo]

my least favorite part about HF is it forces some very suboptimal investments

[flat tapir]

well for sure GB

[gaunt marten]

gb needs rc more than any other faction

[cinder cargo]

AE at least you invest in heroes that are generally good

[flat tapir]

and then lightbearer

[safe wave]

lb is probably easiest for damage right?

[cinder cargo]

HF is like.... 309E60 gorvo time

[gilded salmon]

[flat tapir]

LB might be the best since i have abel

[sterile zinc]

Could I get bronze

[lofty silo]

LB needs tali 18 no?

[cinder cargo]

you'd be better off picking a crappy faction

[solemn sage]

If they don't rebalance HF, ABel did 90% of the whole 5 man squads damage last time

[gaunt marten]

this too @flat tapir are you ready to get 10000 furn dupes on abaden, grez, hodgkin ect

[flat tapir]

i have level 9 talis only rn

[gaunt marten]

if you dont have both athane and abel dont do lb

[cinder cargo]

because LB is gonna be reserved for stronger players

[flat tapir]

i could make a 5 team of maulers.. but i only have L abrutus

[safe wave]

need 309e60 sonja for lb

[gaunt marten]

you need asaf and abrutus

[solemn sage]

biggest account does LB, 2nd biggest does celehypo, third biggest does GB

[flat tapir]

😐

[cinder cargo]

LB, GB, CHaD are basically a no-no in HF if you are not the carry

[solemn sage]

wilder and mauler generally kinda trash

[gaunt marten]

basically whatever you pick you need the woke for it

[flat tapir]

hf is a long term goal then ill have to get carried

yeah i see. id have to do lightbearer for sure then

i just dont have sonja. i could probably ascend her

but i wont get her 30960

[gaunt marten]

this @flat tapir if you go gb you have to build a lot of weird shit

[lofty silo]

HF is next patch right?

[cinder cargo]

what's in GB again

[solemn sage]

but mauler and wilder need to do the pathing

[flat tapir]

ill most likely have to get carry

[cinder cargo]

izold, daimon, oden, abaden hodgkin

[safe wave]

gb probably theowyn

[solemn sage]

so good factions can keep stam on their heroes

[cinder cargo]

ivan, silas, theo, treznor?

[gaunt marten]

bro fuck sonja you need athane focusing on the wrong shit and lb you have to know wtf youre doing bc youre gonna be hitting the bosses

[cinder cargo]

grez

[solemn sage]

e60 eorin great HF pather

[lofty silo]

Ivan will be good

[cinder cargo]

I mean since all the GBs are already pretty good, I don't think it'll be that bad

[safe wave]

i can't wait for the biggest wilder dps awakened to drop 1 day before hf

[gaunt marten]

you need near max abaden grez hodg daimon zolrath, then kalene izold theo og baden silas probably ivan

[cinder cargo]

oh yeah kalene

[solemn sage]

dps wilder awakened would be nice

[cinder cargo]

lmao good luck with that

[solemn sage]

but it'll probably be tasi or something

[solid monolith]

hf doesnt allow recent units, if i remember

[gaunt marten]

well youll like aw eironn

[flat tapir]

i see

[safe wave]

[cinder cargo]

are you sure? It doesn't sound good for profit, and thus not very lilith

[gaunt marten]

how recent is recent

[solid monolith]

or at least i remember that in the past

[safe wave]

1 day is recent

[cinder cargo]

since World War II

[solemn sage]

Eironn or saurus would probably be good 1 man army awakeneds

but tasi would be mage and need help

[safe wave]

eironn would need self heal to 1 man army

[rich tree]

this sounds horrible for new folks

[cinder cargo]

oh I forgot saurus was a thing. That would be cool to see as well

[gaunt marten]

just find ppl who are experienced who are willing to walk you through it and just be aware you might not get the cool faction you want to play

[cinder cargo]

All global competitive modes are horrid for newbies

[solid monolith]

idk i dont do comp, i dont have a reason to even think about it. i just thought i remembered that restriction in previous seasons

[solemn sage]

actually give me awakened astar, she's already solo carry

[gaunt marten]

fr

[safe wave]

my first hf i got dumped into lb when it had no good heroes :')

[gaunt marten]

she was basically awakened in the ezizh event

[cinder cargo]

that's usually the way to go

actually idk, @grave hornet do you want to try for HF frame?

[rich tree]

aite sounds like I'll let whoever in nih manage

[grave hornet]

No

You can do if you want but i wont

[rich tree]

just continue focus on TS and NC

[cinder cargo]

oke

[solemn sage]

I think it allowed recent heroes, just not heroes released during the season

don't remember for sure though

[solid monolith]

yeah, it was either right before or during the season

[trim ferry]

did @sterile inlet quit?

[cinder cargo]

I hope awakened wilder2 will be the most broken hero to set foot in esperia

[gilded salmon]

no I need the gb to be op

[cinder cargo]

op GB awakened is kinda lame

GB is already OP as is

[safe wave]

shemira will probably be op :/

[solemn sage]

GB isn't OP anymore

[cinder cargo]

hmm I mean out of the 4 factions

[solemn sage]

GB fighting with mauler for my worst 4F tower

LB and wilder both clearly better than GB now

[safe wave]

gb is my worst 4f tower bcos i don't have baeden

[cinder cargo]

Gb is my worst 4F tower as well, but that's just because the other towers have had their gen 2awakeneds out already

[safe wave]

wilder 2nd awakened (trishea)

[cinder cargo]

hmm actually wilder is a lot ahead of gb too

[solemn sage]

wilder only has 1 awakened and still better than GB

[cinder cargo]

probably because wilder has more modern hypercarries

GB is still using grez oden daimon to hyper carry

which are like from the industrial revolution

[solemn sage]

trish tamrus nev eorin astar oku mishka raku

[cinder cargo]

honestly idk what is wrong with GB. The heroes are all pretty decent on their own, but suck in tower for some reason

[solemn sage]

all of the last two years worth of wilders are very good except oku

and oku still mid

[cinder cargo]

trishea is good? How

[fair rapids]

Don't think so but
Afk 4 days is getting scary

[solemn sage]

trish was why we got #1 AE

[fair rapids]

AE

[cinder cargo]

ok but that's AE

[gaunt marten]

youre lame

[solemn sage]

even if you take trish off that list

[cinder cargo]

I'm still confused to this day why abaden is so good

[solemn sage]

still a very strong hit rate for recent wilders

[gaunt marten]

hes a special boy

[fair rapids]

Special looking

[cinder cargo]

I tested him when he first came out and he seemed mega average

[safe wave]

awakened treznor coming in 2026

[cinder cargo]

like MEGA average

[solemn sage]

GB has had like 2 fewer releases in that same timeframe

[gaunt marten]

youre mega average

[cinder cargo]

I guess he was doing good in CR day 1

[fair rapids]

He good for Kane

[cinder cargo]

and still doing good in CR

[trim ferry]

i was waiting for gabe to defend waden

[gaunt marten]

abaden getting fielded before abel in ts gives me the last fucking laugh

[cinder cargo]

ok but TR isn't really a mode

[gilded salmon]

Yeah but I hear abaden is nothing without mortas

[cinder cargo]

which abaden comp are you running?

[gaunt marten]

FUCK i love this event

[gilded salmon]

me too

[gaunt marten]

idk i think it rolled to my comps i had set from last time

[cinder cargo]

do you need M+20 mortas, or is E mortas fine>?

[gaunt marten]

im trying some different shit

[gilded salmon]

idk lol im referencing the ezizh event

[gaunt marten]

its a joke from the event

[cinder cargo]

abelinda is doing so so bad

[cinder cargo]

oh

[fair rapids]

I don't want M mortas

[solemn sage]

GB has more heroes that are worth building than other factions, but fewer heroes that singlehandedly turn a team from losing team into winning team

[gaunt marten]

when azizh kills abaden one of the skills he can choose is called "you are nothing without mortas"

it took me the fuck out when i saw it

[gilded salmon]

I'm omw to m mortas, just got him to e+

only like 6 more months to go, easy

[fair rapids]

Yea everyone I've asked don't gaze anymore

And I have 2 other shop dims

[gaunt marten]

just make bigger trez

[sour jay]

Time gaze more dragon

[safe wave]

me getting a mortas from stones after i got him m20

[cinder cargo]

I'm super torn rn. Should I keep investing into TS the hopeless mode for f2ps

[solemn sage]

awakened trez incoming

[cinder cargo]

or should I do more CR investments instead

[gaunt marten]

ts is the only mode for f2p

[safe wave]

ts is yummy

[gaunt marten]

yes the most f2p mode, cr

[solemn sage]

excuse me

[cinder cargo]

not when everyone is awakened spamming you out of top 100

[fair rapids]

I will buy yuxie cards for the 4th time in a week or so

[solemn sage]

battle of blood

[proven hearth]

cr

[solemn sage]

[gaunt marten]

[safe wave]

woke soup is the spirit of pvp

[gaunt marten]

im going to come to your region

[feral coral]

Higher cr = more tg = more woke = higher TS

[cinder cargo]

there's always gonna be more than 100 people whaling harder than, well, f2ps in a region

[safe wave]

higher ts = more tg = more woke = higher cr

[cinder cargo]

I think my region is harder than yours gabe

wait nvm forgot you have a newer account

[gaunt marten]

okay let me acquire an account

[trim ferry]

@ebon flare finds himself in t100

[solemn sage]

you guys should come to R2

easiest TS region

[cinder cargo]

send me link, I go

[gaunt marten]

r32 got fucking hard

[ebon flare]

T50 rn

[solemn sage]

I'm also in R1 NC

[cinder cargo]

literal hacker

[safe wave]

r32 is hell

[solemn sage]

easiest NC region

[trim ferry]

Wow big dog

[feral coral]

It's so stupid

[restive goblet]

[cinder cargo]

it's kinda BS how older regions are easier than middle ones

[ebon flare]

Was 34th earlier from some god rng

[proven hearth]

Others are catching up on pets

[gaunt marten]

i remember when i used to fight rhino a lot

[cinder cargo]

but hey at least it's not Bob with the r14

[ebon flare]

36-39 seem like the sweet spots

[flat tapir]

r32 is the hardest region right

[gaunt marten]

now i never see him

[spice finch]

ask for a refund

[proven hearth]

Yes, Abel is terrible

[solemn sage]

Not all of them

[flat tapir]

or is it flaws region

[solemn sage]

R1 is a lot harder than R2

[gaunt marten]

not by a country mile

[safe wave]

no ivan

[feral coral]

He quit now the acc is back alive

[gaunt marten]

i remember when i first started whaling he was on my friends list

[trim ferry]

Verisus

[solemn sage]

if we ever get another TS merge I'm screwed

I'm the oldest server in r2

[feral coral]

[gaunt marten]

id be in t40s then

let me check on ck, i was t32 a little bit ago

[spice finch]

good enough

[safe wave]

they should merge ts into 2 regions to balance rankings :)

[gaunt marten]

ck is t35 all looks normal

[cinder cargo]

they should more region splitting

[trim ferry]

Still very early lol

[cinder cargo]

split every region into 100

[safe wave]

@gaunt marten what server r u again

[gilded salmon]

my mae team has like 1 win

[feral coral]

T84

[gaunt marten]

my main? s821

[spice finch]

m mae is depressing

[gilded salmon]

yup

[gaunt marten]

smol mae

[cinder cargo]

how good is maetria outside of TS

[safe wave]

its weird to think that im in an older server than gabe

[gaunt marten]

shes good in a lot of shit

[cinder cargo]

that's not AE or HF

[feral coral]

@storm moth is your +20 saf actually working

[solemn sage]

her awakened skill is OP af

[gilded salmon]

and 2 of my other teams are shitting the bed too for some reason???
Only abel is actually existing

[gaunt marten]

shes not in ae

[solemn sage]

she can flex into any 4F or hypo team

[cinder cargo]

huh that's kinda surprising

[gaunt marten]

i mean, some ppl were using her

[safe wave]

mae sp is great in dims wym

[cinder cargo]

dims doesn't need more boosting

[proven hearth]

Campaign and tower are good. She’s awful for stability in trift

[gaunt marten]

the joke is she doesnt need to be in dims

[solemn sage]

Mae can be good in dims

[gaunt marten]

jd as usual missing the joke

[solemn sage]

but not because of her SP

[safe wave]

dims carrys around mae

[cinder cargo]

she is good for cheesing

which ofc is the most important part of a hero

[safe wave]

mae thane burst works better than i expected it to

[gaunt marten]

her sp literally excludes dims

[cinder cargo]

oh it does?

[gaunt marten]

mae thane is what whales been playing for a while

[safe wave]

ig im a whale now

[solemn sage]

JD doesn't even know what mae SP does

[cinder cargo]

I see people running that and am confused as to why

like surely split is better

[gaunt marten]

well jd is average ts player then bc so many people still dragging their feet on mae

[cinder cargo]

people as in like top 2% people

[gaunt marten]

running what athane mae

[cinder cargo]

burst

[solemn sage]

Dim mirrors often end up with just the carry left alive and everyone else dead

[safe wave]

"mae only works for whales build solise first"
"that tierlist is whales only solise is meta"

[solemn sage]

mae revive wins those mirrors

[gaunt marten]

its so fucking bizarre

[cinder cargo]

what even is awakened priority anymore

[gaunt marten]

yeah makes sense, reason why mae can get shoved in many comps

[gaunt marten]

i have priority blobs

[safe wave]

literally every woke tierlist i see is responded to with "thats for whales"

[cinder cargo]

I feel like abelinda first is basically just PvE stack now

[solemn sage]

Abel first, then newest to oldest

[proven hearth]

A hot topic

[feral coral]

[cinder cargo]

she is for sure not good in TS

[gaunt marten]

most realistic answer

[solemn sage]

actually not newest to oldest because aezizh > atalene

[gaunt marten]

in new regions she still gets 80% in t100 though

[solemn sage]

but most people won't get that far back anyways

[tranquil crane]

What channel is this? I see JD and Perp chatting a bunch, I think I got turned around somewhere...

[cinder cargo]

and is also newer

[gaunt marten]

taverns leaking

[solemn sage]

oh I have them swapped in my head

[safe wave]

this is offtopic

[tranquil crane]

Always has been 🔫

[solemn sage]

I gotta get exp somewhere and taverns doesn't count

[cinder cargo]

ye but then so does a lot of other awakened

[restive goblet]

At 7 teams abel usually does pretty well without alna.

[lapis moth]

IS PP

[cinder cargo]

people stop using alna with abelinda since 2 comp

[safe wave]

abel always does well ur using her wrong if she doesn't

[solemn sage]

alna rem is just too busted to ignore

[sour jay]

Yeah using her at all is using her wrong

[restive goblet]

Those people didn’t run Abelinda at all until 4 or 5 teams

[trim ferry]

She still performs decently if you get a couple stars

[safe wave]

best abel team is abel alna with abel swapped for rem

[proven hearth]

And ghosted, time to sleep

[cinder cargo]

alna rem isn't hard to pull off at all. And many people that can pull off alna rem doesn't have enough decent heroes for a better 3rd team option

[sour jay]

Won't be long before Belinda is just out of the pvp meta entirely

[gaunt marten]

but no one else clears pve like her, and hits bosses like her, and the supports she needs you will have built by the time you get your first woke ascended so until i see with my own eyes a reproducible option then ill keep selling what works

[solemn sage]

she's not gonna fall out of 7 teams

[gaunt marten]

ivan is the turnaround for her if he doesnt get snagged by another team

[cinder cargo]

what abaden

[solemn sage]

and we're in 8 team meta now

[tranquil crane]

rip

[solemn sage]

for LC

[cinder cargo]

boss hitting you can literally just merc. And they should literally just merc

[safe wave]

he's in the variety of godcomps i think

[sour jay]

Just needs someone better who wants her energy supports, there's not enough to share

[cinder cargo]

I guess PvE is a thing

[gaunt marten]

this is my worry with possible awshem on the far horizon

[proven hearth]

[cinder cargo]

but then like I said early abelinda is just PvE carry then

[restive goblet]

ok but if alnaless Belinda is the very best option most people have for three teams, it’s hard to argue that Belinda is bad at TS

[solemn sage]

or lilith releases more energy supports

[cinder cargo]

and with Rem release idk if abelinda is still needed before powercap

[gaunt marten]

what is your reproducible solution

[sour jay]

Possible, those are far less common than energy based carries tho

[cinder cargo]

and then idk if PvE is still useful after powercap

[tranquil crane]

trading pretty decently at least

[gaunt marten]

bc so far i have only seen ppl say criticism and not put forth any actual solution

[cinder cargo]

abaden

[gaunt marten]

sell me on it, you know i want it

[cinder cargo]

or like AwSaf

[sour jay]

Athalia first is viable imo

[cinder cargo]

???

I mean yeah true

[gilded salmon]

only smart people do baeden first

[feral coral]

[lime zinc]

AwBaden isn't even good in TS either

[gaunt marten]

everyone shut up except jd i want him to sell me on this

[gaunt marten]

thats horseshit

[cinder cargo]

he's pretty good in TS though, especially in newer regions

[gaunt marten]

hes fielded before abel half the time in ts now

[cinder cargo]

5 pull in PvE earlier with abaden is cracked. If I had the power I'd be using that a lot more in PvE too

[solemn sage]

that's 3 teams crammed into one

of course it's good

[cinder cargo]

you literally don't even need queen

[fair rapids]

Hacks

[gaunt marten]

5p abaden is cracked

[cinder cargo]

heck you probably don't even need skriath

just chuck on a tamrus and go

[gaunt marten]

tam mulan abaden is insane

[feral coral]

Mulan

[cinder cargo]

and he performs a lot better than abelinda in CR afaik

[gaunt marten]

his ts teams are very flexible too as well

[tranquil crane]

whats your abaden team at 5T?

[gaunt marten]

depends

and i wont tell you anyways

[trim ferry]

Eh? Waden teams in ts for me never cracks 35%

[lime zinc]

Burst works in Green but doesn't in any other
Alna AwBaden sucks in Red and needs Seal in Blue (which just leaves him shuffled onto stall anyway)

[cinder cargo]

like abelinda's main selling point was best at everything

[tranquil crane]

[cinder cargo]

but that's no longer true, especially not in TS

[solemn sage]

Gabe gets away with still using abaden because his is megabuilt

[trim ferry]

He's forever ts benched for me

[safe wave]

big baeden

[cinder cargo]

you just need tarnos

[gaunt marten]

thats not really true, im using variations of comps i get from guild

[restive goblet]

You can’t fit him in stall?

[sterile zinc]

Wish that were me

[gaunt marten]

and abaden still gets fielded before abel half the time

[tranquil crane]

Meanwhile I get away with playing abel cuz I'm in R45 XD

[cinder cargo]

maybe maetria first is better too

[gaunt marten]

that makes 0 sense

[safe wave]

i get away with it in r32

[feral coral]

Wutus first

[trim ferry]

I don't got tarnos

[cinder cargo]

maetria can actually destroy in PvE too, lots of ch58 clears using full hypo team

[lime zinc]

Last red AwBaden was good but he's been doing really poorly this one

[sterile zinc]

Where ginneas

[gaunt marten]

you dont need tarnos where the fuck are you getting your teams

[cinder cargo]

and unlike abelinda she actually works in TS

[restive goblet]

I meant Gb stall but that’s kind of whale too I guess

[cinder cargo]

2021 pvp guide

[trim ferry]

Different topic

[cinder cargo]

I the one I always refer back to

[gaunt marten]

joux fucking yelled at me for selling mae to them for ts and then switched the team around and started winning

[trim ferry]

I don't use gb stall but I literally use waden extremely rarely

[cinder cargo]

[gaunt marten]

what

[trim ferry]

In ts

[sour jay]

It's losing now fuck you gabe

[gilded salmon]

[lime zinc]

[gaunt marten]

everyone hates me im used to it

[gilded salmon]

My mae is losing too im mad (ignore that she's M)

[cinder cargo]

so ye maybe maetria first

[sour jay]

I'm jk it's copium

Mae first is insane wtf

[gaunt marten]

mae first is.....

[cinder cargo]

or awthalia, also good at pve and bossing and TS

[sour jay]

JD usually has hot takes but that is wild

[lime zinc]

Mae first is wack but Mae early is fine

[gaunt marten]

where is awthalia used in pve besides nc

[gaunt marten]

shes ok in cr

[cinder cargo]

campaign

[sour jay]

If not Belinda I think athalia is first choice

[gaunt marten]

where

[trim ferry]

What? Lol

[cinder cargo]

people push at power deficits of 1 in early PvE

[sour jay]

Just makes random comps work in campaign, nn and celowz use a lot

[fair rapids]

[gaunt marten]

i think jd is doing the thing i also do where i just pick a woke and try to sell someone on it just to see if i can

[cinder cargo]

you can literaly just slap on awthalia dims and clean out at those defiits

[feral coral]

[tranquil crane]

you can sell me on any woke you want~

[sour jay]

Belinda is better in campaign no doubt but campaign is meh

[safe wave]

roster filled with the 3 best wokes in the game

[cinder cargo]

I've seen people trucking through KT with like 30-40 RC higher than me with awthalia dims

[cinder cargo]

is she really though

[fair rapids]

[sour jay]

Yes

[cinder cargo]

abelinda's mechanism scales with power deficit

[gaunt marten]

belinda is definitely better in campaign

[spice finch]

is that what you did with mae?

[fair rapids]

My Abel LDV is very op

[cinder cargo]

people don't have that in early game

[sour jay]

Ldv takes like 3 months lol

[gaunt marten]

if someone is deciding between two relatively similar ones i just pick one to pitch

[fair rapids]

So does first woke

[cinder cargo]

by the time their power deficit actually increases to a point where you can't just random BS go everything

[trim ferry]

Yeah they do

[cinder cargo]

PvE doesn't. really matter that much anymore

[tranquil crane]

im trucking through KT with god comp variations, effortless wins at pcap

[gaunt marten]

first woke takes like 4 months

[tranquil crane]

or whatever we're calling alna rem saf comps

[restive goblet]

You should just build 100% for TS and give up on every other game mode

[gaunt marten]

hey can you say that into the mic

[cinder cargo]

earlier game I should say

[sour jay]

I'm on the athalia first train but not pushing hard for it. But Belinda is def better in pve

[gilded salmon]

first woke should take like 6 months

[fair rapids]

And ldv takes 3-4
Abel LDV can be done 3-4!months in ggs

[sterile zinc]

This is the way

[gilded salmon]

then its 4 months each after

[cinder cargo]

[solemn sage]

KT is basically free wins until you get a thoran cheese that you can't be bothered to wait 5 hours for

[gaunt marten]

please i need a consensus bc embla is already doing art

[cinder cargo]

in what context though

[gilded salmon]

abelinda first

[cinder cargo]

I'm actually serious

[gilded salmon]

she's good in ts in new regions

[fair rapids]

It looks so good

[tranquil crane]

Broke: building for TS
Woke: building for LC

[gaunt marten]

i still really need to be sold on something besides abel first

[solemn sage]

I stand by abel -> newest to oldest

[gilded salmon]

im still not sold on saf

[cinder cargo]

what does abelinda do that a lot of other wokes can't in PvE in early-mid game

[safe wave]

aezizh first bcos cc is a great way to push high deficits

[sterile zinc]

[rich tree]

New region about 50% til r46

[gaunt marten]

bc the thing is abel still does really well in every new region

[solemn sage]

100% TS winrate

[fair rapids]

Abel first is very safe and can be used in every mode

[gilded salmon]

yeah in god comp lol

[fair rapids]

I don't think Mae 1st is worth tbh

[cinder cargo]

in a lot of KT clears I straight up don't use abelinda anymore

[solemn sage]

I could see 1 copy of mae first

[gaunt marten]

but most players arent minmax f2p pushing like you

[cinder cargo]

why use a hero that can mega blast when much smaller blasting works too

[fair rapids]

Wrong reply Gabe

[trim ferry]

Mega blast can make it possible when smaller blast no work

[gaunt marten]

im gonna mega blast you

[solemn sage]

but full building mae isn't necessary for a lot of her uses

[sterile zinc]

[solemn sage]

just stick L mae in for the SP

[feral coral]

Abel > waden

[fair rapids]

U right JD is try hard

[trim ferry]

I use woke salads though so who the fuck am I to say

[cinder cargo]

in those very rare situations where you actually need mega blast, you can just merc one

[safe wave]

didn't you know? both abel and baeden are perma benched in ts

[gaunt marten]

not really what i mean but like most ppl arent hard pushing every tower every fucking day with a several year old f2p acc

[trim ferry]

I mean tbf for me I use her way too often.

[cinder cargo]

like power deficits legit cannot get that big in mid game. players simply don't have the roster to support doing that for their other teams

[fair rapids]

Sounds like something a try hard does

[trim ferry]

There's nobody who dishes out as much in a short frame like her

[gilded salmon]

my deficit is like 220 rn and im overleveled

[restive goblet]

the only thing is that comp is already kind of op without Safiya

[gilded salmon]

^

[cinder cargo]

level deficit doesn't as much as power deficit

[solemn sage]

safiya takes it from a great team to an unbeatable team

[trim ferry]

I'd beg to differ. I was mid 200s in mid 30s and almost 300 in like 41/42

[cinder cargo]

and you're pretty far into the game already

[gilded salmon]

im ch 40

[trim ferry]

That's pretty heavy of even a power Def

[cinder cargo]

by the time you are in ch40, does PvE really matter that much anymore?

[restive goblet]

I’m pretty close to pulling for saf right now, but using ezio Yennefer Dae as the backline is already getting 70% in t50

[gaunt marten]

i need help with 1 thing, im considering moving asaf to priority group 3 insteaf of 2 because i havent seen much abt her campaign or lower t100 ts and im iffy on her being that high up

[cinder cargo]

she is really strong in TS, but then alna rem is already really strong without her

[gaunt marten]

depends bc i include bossing in pve definition

[fair rapids]

Her trial helped me push 2 chapters

[solemn sage]

yeah pve is a pretty broad term

[fair rapids]

And I've seen that she has NC use

[cinder cargo]

by PvE I usually mean campaign towers

[trim ferry]

Er by lower t100 ts. Do you mean better ranked? Or worse? R45 had a decent amount of safs running around in the 60-100s

[cinder cargo]

bossing can and should be merced

[fair rapids]

She is very solid in towers

[solemn sage]

and by cramming you usually mean throwing your diamonds away

[gaunt marten]

also theres a lot of players that just arent really into pvp and i want to make this general enough that basically any player can pick it up and pick what they think will benefit them the most

[solemn sage]

[cinder cargo]

[fair rapids]

Can't use 7 mercs

[gaunt marten]

im basicaly paying in advance for nice hf frame

[fair rapids]

[solemn sage]

cheaper to just buy an account with a gold HF frame

[trim ferry]

You can only use a single merc per and limited usage in context of tower/campaign

[cinder cargo]

the heck are you doing that needs 7 bosses

[gaunt marten]

but i want new ones and i want to make friends and play with people

[cinder cargo]

the thing is you don't need abelinda in most of those stages though

[fair rapids]

I lack alot of heores

[gilded salmon]

cr next year

[gaunt marten]

jd hacks and can use 10 mercs at once

[fair rapids]

[solemn sage]

I yolo SI30'd aezizh after event got him to M

[cinder cargo]

I feel like abelinda first is a very stand in ch50 talk about ch5 move

[solemn sage]

now I'm gonna have to decide between ivan or new hero to SI30

[trim ferry]

You don't, but it makes it easier. It's obviously been done before she was out in most cases of the game

[gaunt marten]

one of us is in ch 50 and it isnt me, and one of us has been running early game a lot the past few months and it probably isnt you

[gilded salmon]

I mean you could be like that guy that got abelinda and didnt have rock 9 or alna built

[gaunt marten]

that 1 guy is so so so set on saying asolise is good first

[fair rapids]

I used M Abel in charm when I had small raku

Used A with LDV she has not let me down in any thing but TS

[restive goblet]

Belinda is a very solid choice for first woke. She makes a new TS team with mostly heroes you wouldn’t use on other teams, she adds a ton of damage to CR and she can kill most NC bosses. And she’s great at temporal rift

[fair rapids]

Love her

[restive goblet]

Thane is pretty solid too I think

[trim ferry]

No

[gilded salmon]

Rock 9 needs to be like your #1 prio as a pet lol