#treasure-scramble
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Ok thxx
I’d say so, if you’re in a newer region lucy MIGHT work but eorin better
But usually you invest in Lucy much sooner, so test and see, imo
eorin does okay in late teams in a new region
see if you can post it better lol
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/169149814469165056/1128797233047941120/Hg0lJ3u_fNUfFlqc.mp4
My Abel useless currently
I just wanna replace Daimon in a bad team i have … and add eorin
what was the caption I forgot



🎉 How to fold a fitted sheet 🎉
was the orginal name


when are we getting an option to sort by Talene faction

when we get talene tower
That’s their philosophy these days, woke is when winged red head 
Only 1 talene away from all talene team (ignore talene 2lene can't go together)
Awk tasilene will complete the team
LCT teams
we're more likely to get talene tower than dim tower 
Dim tower would be so cool. I could use Mulan to her fullest potential 
Why can I only add my reaction when there’s already a reaction existing - is reacc a nitro feature?

thats zappy only feature
no 9f, not burst enough
Rip. Whane seems to be doing really well in my region though.
hes still a great pvp unit
i accidently e80'd my thali. I swear
🤨


wut

New meta e80 thali
She is a beast fighting in rift, why not in TS 
2nd worst enemy for me in rift, after isa
I find Thoran, LDV, Torne, Gorvo, Lucius, Safiya to be painful too. Too many painful enemies….
Time to do it all over again 
Made it to 374 this season, I'll be curious how far I can get next time. My beckonings weren't even si30 this season lol
Pushing rift 
isa is fine just run baden mulan into her
Salsa sabotaging ppl recommending normal baden 

and then those times there's 3 isabella and you just wanna die
lost like 200 stab at 280 because of shit teams that you don't get an option on
nice decision gooksta
Anyone else hyped for the new daily quest!
i dont read patch notes very carefully, whats it gonna be?
How, nvm you lie your emi has 9f iirc
buy something from the store. lets you still complete dailies if u max pcap in all game modes 
Suffering from success
you always could, just had to save up a scroll from before
it'll be nice anyway, starting and stopping a multifight is too many clicks
There should be a daily task "check TS" that awarded 100 points
Which do I 30930
Yes
you can't even do that every day 
eorin dedge in a month. do anasta
Anasta
His nc boss will vanish at some point
Yeah, then he'll retire and vow to never damage another boss in his life
Anasta is more universal but she’s only being seen in nc cr these days
He'll die when even more awks powercreep him
Awakened eironn 
Awakened dreaf
do you think there's any chance she could slot into any upcoming saf teams after this debuff?
Yeah I mean it’s not like people don’t use her in pvp, she’s just not in top comps
She increases ty for the whole team herself, buffs attack, Dr and heals the whole team. I think anasta is solid
Not really much synergy with asaf other than being a universally good hero
you can always try it and seeeee
shes so new so not like we know every possible good combo in each region yet
if you have 309e60 anasta why not
sadly my Anasta is more like 303 at the moment
she's actually one of my more common mercs, for climbing mauler tower
yeah she needs 9f for pvp
k i checked and she's actually 307 and on my list
so i could technically finish her furn anytime but shards is... sigh
shards and RC slots are the bane of a babby kraken
Yeah most people wouldn’t ever choose those even if they are a spender
at a sufficient degree of spending they become primary bottlenecks
Yeah I remember that
shard are my bane too dont worry
Yolo safiya? 
👀

Wait for next woke 
Lol Royce will have enough for another by the next woke
Mulan gets better ability and star haste tho
ig it just depends on focus
Yeah that’s why I was considering it
did you do it
No 
why not
Don’t even have enough mats to do anything to her
i am also being prevented from whaling a woke rn due to only having 80 gold emblems

yeah I cant si20 mae lmao, I have the reds for si30 too
stupid yen took all my yellow emblems
bit of a small sample size but things are looking strong for albedo protecting abel
couldn't albedo be better placed?
what do you have in mind?
just in any dims team ig? if it works though im not gonna judge it
there’s not really any reason to limit her to dim teams for this buff
did... did you not read how this debuff works?
She’s basically Awakened Hendrik
albedo e60 👍
anyways this is unusally decent data cuz im stuck fighting the exact same one or two people that she went 56% against this morning
For comp AE 
(unusually decent data by TS standards, anyways... which is to say pretty trash)
i got rock lizzy to 9 and my linda team went up by like 30%
grats
Yea it helps sm
rock 12 isnt as good as 9 but its another nice boost
dont have anyone above 9 so 12 is long away 
great hypo team lol
no abledo, that's your problem

my brutus skriath team has a nice 0% 😀
She is there 
not in abel tho
do you not buy from normal store?
Who has the gold for that

I've only got 300 gold embs (but nothing to use them on) and 1b gold

that's cuz u old and decrepit. on r21 i have 650 golds and 500m gold. the problem goes away with time
oh I didn't know u had a newer alt
or did he pick up an old acc 
yes i am young like the rest of u
not like old curmudgeony bob
ayo u didn't need to edit in decrepit 
i felt it was my duty to more accurately reflect reality
Next si30 recommendation? I’m leaning towards either Tamrus or save for next woke (320 tgs right now, will wait till 500).
when i decided to abandon f2p life i made alt to whale on. rather whale on alt and be t50/t20 ts than dig my way out of r21 t10% 
Either tamtam or you have lots of dim options
yeh f2p life is hard when we're obviously not allowed to have any awks
Are any of my remaining Dims’ si30s worth using reds on? I was planning to just slow grind them from lab store.
Mainly referring to Mulan for pvp, yen and rem are good for the stats too. I used reds on Mulan. It’s gonna take a while to get the emblems for them but if it won’t up you too consistent top 50’s then waiting is fine
Tamrus is high priority anyways
I think gap between where I am and consistent t50 is more than one (or even a few) dim si30s - it’s a fundamental gap in number of built wokes, celepogs, and e60s.
Guess I’ll just go Tam and start hoarding for next woke, and slow grind dim emblems for now.
Tam si30 good (assuming you already have 9f)
Yeah, have 9f. It’s done, he is 309 now. His e30 skill effect doesn’t sound good - does he actually do damage, or is it mainly for stats?
Have you gone for 4th AW yet?
Most of the time your actual burst carry deals the dmg, but in some niche scenarios the e30 does good dmg
Overall more for the stats when TS needs e30 min everything
no
Kinda half and half I would say. Engraving just gives great stats in general so a skill has to be godly for it to be the main reason for engraving
e36 mostly for IS/Haste than dmg
Where do we get these things?
These are where all my gold emblems come from
Got it. Makes sense that he benefits from the stats… Since we are on the topic, suggestions on my e30 prio order?
My current plan was: (1) save for woke, (2) Neva, (3) Tam, (4) Queen e33.
ts mostly
Seems fine
TS. Note - if you end up spending gold in shop for emblems, buying gold emblems there is better, and get silver from the chests. Better ratio.
with 868 chests i doubt henry is worried about gold and silver emblem gain 
I have no idea where the silver emblems come from but I can’t spend them fast enough
Running out of silvers is even more meme than running out of golds 
normal/faction summons
I need both
you get 140 silver emblems for every 200 summons you do
I’m still short on both😭
I've got like 3k silvers 
Nah I have like 1k scrolls saved lol
Wish I could upgrade them up tiers at a bad conversion rate
Add a FoS that changes shop golds to a chest with like 1 red, shards to chest with cores and +2 daily TE 
I need like zero red chests, but also need thousands of red chests.
there’s so many decent but not great +30s
They're always in higher demand than silvers or golds at least
As if that's ever gonna get read 
Cool. I’ve been dragging my feet on Neva e30 for a long time even though it’s been one of the “recommended” engravings - what does it actually do?
What do you guys think about buying cores for diamonds in the daily shop once you have a pretty fleshed out roster? (Like 30-40 strong upgraded characters) I know it’s conventional wisdom to not get them, but it’s honestly reallly tempting
Kraken territory imo
I'd be buying shop baits before shop cores
Although I buy bait every day as near f2p, which are also super expensive…
it seems absolutely atrocious lol. that's like 4.5 celepog copies for 1 e60
Chinaman start doing that to focus on e60s
4 e60s vs a luxury celepogean that needs +30, 9f and e60 sounds pretty good
u ever bought shop cores flaw
Is there anything you haven't bought before flaw 
Makes her heal and shield herself along with potentially more than one ally at once. Personally I would do tam first but we have different account where mine is more burst friendly and you have Baden
When it first came out
T1 chest for 2.9k gems

this image infuriates me 
These are from ts
Got it, thanks! I might go AwThalia next, so still worth considering burst team options. Will dwell on it a bit. Anyway have some time to decide - have barely enough for one e30, and want to build some buffer in case I decide to start pulling for my woke soon and get lucky.
sorry choerry but there's no yuexi silver chests for u to whale
drats

Want some of mine?

gimme
5 digit silvers is pretty funny
no u
yes me

I just e60 emi and she's basically solo carrying

Wtf is going on in this fight
My emi is only baby 30341 
wtf whale
Dae
Gooksta made me, he's the whale
It's like 80% dae e30 dmg
It only lasted 6 seconds
yep that's dae e30 burst dmg lol
Maybe I'll do dae before haelus
It's all wind blades and burning ambition
u should do dae before haelus anyway because she's better
does gigamax dae take ember mask from gigamask rem 
I'm doing vei rn anyway cause he's sexier
Maybe? Idk how their atk/cmbr compares
rem's is barely higher in the portraits tab but that's rc240 and gearless/treeless/petless
Does finishing Dae from M+30 help in CR and twisted realm?
I'd assume a sorc has more atk than a might
Well more the better 
30930 (or e41) would be pretty nice
I think my dae is just e36 rn
9f and e30 are huge buffs so yes
my dae is e+
my dae is e 
noob
Pleb

My dae is a1 because my cruke isn't 
Same
I did Dae M in one go with like 400 SG
Mine is e+•8
u think i can get A* in 125
well in theory i only need 15 sgs 
I got Dae to M and I can finish her, but I kind of want to wait and see what the next celepogean is
Took me 114 from M to A
ban
👀
You must have prayed to dura
Was like 100 from A to A1 
anything better than full pity every copy is an unethical rate
Oh actually I think Dae was M in 300 (best luck I've had with SGs)
You should work in financial reporting
That’s the right attitude 
Mood tbh
can you get wokes using the rickety cart replace feature? that might be more ethical
Yes
u can exchange wokes 3-to-1. but u gotta already have the woke u wanna exchange out at 5*
lets u scamgaze wokes at an effective rate of 1500dia/sg, which is an interesting value concept. jd keeps talking about it but still hasn't done it so i can't tell how serious they are about it
im imagining a f2p with no celepogs whatsoever, and no gem budget for anything else at all, but full wokes 
well, I guess they would need at least 1 celepog
u swap wokes for wokes in rickety cart. so u tot 12 copies of a woke, scamgaze 5 stars, then you can keep scamgazing that woke and swapping 3 copies of them for 1 copy of any other woke
I don't think I'd buy TE if they cost 1500 dia
1k would be a consideration
i would buy it for 1k. i wouldn't go over that number
ah got it... intradasting
It's basically the same mechanic as excess celepos beyond 5* (although personally I'm still waiting on a 3rd random wukong to ever use that myself
)
because you can do this, there's an upper limit on how high a person can logically value a timeblem - there's no reason to value it any higher than 1500
Button gone 
what did you do 
Tbf, using swap is kind of a higher than 1.5k effective cost since you need to actually have an A5
Although obvs the A5 has benefits itself
they pushed the button on a different hero 
boooooo
what if they just really like staring at the biggest possible number of time emblems in their bag
And Ezizh
seems good
JD frothing at the mouth reading this 
I actually kinda want to do e30 Raine at some point
One more e60 and 3 more e30s and my box will be perfect!
yeah it's a quarter mil diamond "sunk cost" of sorts before you can even begin to do this resource-draining process

Which is why it it won't ever be more than a meme because the only people able to afford to do that would be whales who have excess TE anyway
It's a funny topic though
idk, i think one day jd will have a blackout and wake up with a 5* bel and from there he'll feel obligated to do it

JD: Hey meow, can we A5 someone to start stocking up dupes to swap for a new AW release
Meow: No wtf 
JD: Ok it's already A5
The trek to getting some lvl15 beasts is so long 
I agree with this especially for TS. Dae as much more usage imo
you use her in like every single TS round do ittt
Yeah exactly, she's probably what I have planned next after AwBel is actually engraved 

+6 crit is totally worth the 6 copies
12
1 crit per copy
hythlo just assumes everyone default 3* their woke 
AwSaf's CDR from stars must be to counter AwBel's crit from stars 
I forgot my fking phone charger today so I don't have batterylife to face-down push while in the office 
asaf star stat is cdr? 
yeah 
wtf 😒
i know she has no haste node and double dodge
support with no haste node 
asaf whole engraving situation is mega weirdge
💀
It is
i lied she has a haste node. she has no offensive nodes
ngl, AwSaf's s4 shield is a lot better than I expected. Not like it's solo keeping the team alive but it's a very solid layer of free defenses
she doesn't need offense shes a support smh my head 
haste/is/ty/dodge/dodge
i went up 60 floors in mauler tower with saf
She doesn't really need haste when all her skills are automatic anyway (although it'd speed up Erosion casts for SI30 stacking)
plus her energy gain is already crazy
Her ult casting is already hard capped by the star channel time since her energy gain is so nuts that she always is at full
Some of her stuff scales off of her attack so that's why offensive would be good
whyd they have to keep the channeling nonsense anyway
well increasing her crit/mp/cda wouldn't help her atk scaling sp
50% for thematic 50% so she wouldn't give everyone infinite energy
she should be able to channel multiple star fellers at once
Explain I am stupid
STAR FELLERS
Would've been cool and insanely broken 
Imagine multiple of those fuckers no thanks
A whole armada
Do they not scale her stats 
cuz her sp uses her atk rating. not her crit or mp or cda stats. crit or mp or cda would increase her own direct dmg
Wouldn't they still crit/MP off her stats though
i think it's phrased as life loss
Yeah that's what I was confused abt
my phone is dead can someone screencap her sp
i haven't read her skills enough to know anything but i assume her sp damage is probably stupid and cant crit or smth
"Causing them to lose health by"
It is phrased as life loss yeah
yeah that's life loss
Yeah so life loss
no one's said it but that sounds like life loss to me
I'm not gonna pretend I know how asaf works I just let six tell me
life loss doesn't crit and doesn't get affected by pierce/resist
I've legit memorised the wording since the day her leaks came out 
at least she doesn’t do the channeling herself. She keeps casting skills while the ult channels doesn’t she?
Someone fund bob so he can test her
and i think the way it's phrased, the one with the ember mask is the one who inflicts the life loss
i think so
Yes and yes
lol would he even accept it
which is why in the end of battle stats the ember mask hero ends up with all the dmg so it's harder to tell saf's contribution
I thought burning ambition dmg went to her
support moment
It says mask or ember mask
Do people use saf in dims because she can trigger Emilia’s frost so well?
Mask = everyone at start
Ember mask = highest atk at start, +1 each ult, buffs dmg
Both proc burning ambition, ember procs are stronger and steal more energy
Or is that just the default for new wokes
they need to add some kind of stat in the battle report for damage buffs
Fr
I think ppl just stacking shit
new players probably skip palmer bcos he just looks like a crap healer in the report
They do
i think it doesn't. she has a big dmg contribution in the ts screens, but in her cr and nc fights it's crassio/olgath with pretty much all the dmg. i think the buffed hero gets credit for the ember mask sp dmg
Keep having to argue that
@storm moth Izold with carnage please 🥹
request
Wait, I can't
can someone explain where crassios crazy burst comes from? is it s3?
I think it's because
- Burning ambition + ember mask adds a lot of reach
- Energy from ult turbos Dae/Rem ult
- S4 shields are extra protection for dims or Dae
- Dims are just a strong template for stuff and AwSaf can very generically benefit teams
lmao
Need more merc slots fr 
i need like 5 at least
Do i make deer or talis lvl 20 rn
Wish I had 5 merc slots 
Talis
the solution is to just have all the heroes built 
I think krakens said tali+owl best for over 18 but would have to double check 
cero says seal talis owl
Sir, I already maxed out 1 credit card and the bank wouldn't give me another one, since they don't believe I am Nigerian prince 
I should be asking iris
lion talis owl for ae
but then you need to merc e11 thoran
if you merc thoran wont it come with full t4 gear
if u unequip gear from every single hero u can set it back to t2
Like krakens care about thoran...
cheess? whats the word
E80 Thoran is just a cthulu meme for PvP
It’s fine
cheese not cheess 🧠
lyca doing work
Go to jail
2
Because I want to be done with campaign already
There will just be more ch
@storm moth Now I know why I returned your Izold, fucking KEK
sad trez 
Your fucking trez
You take that back 
He's growing
put him in rc pls
Azor's neglect of trez, clearly
He's level fucking 1
Trez is a college student now, he's struggling to get by 
HES +0

He's over 700 years old
pog
College is hard you know
Why are you tormenting him
fr 
Mommy and daddy
If he's not getting that degree, I am disowning him
Yes
grats
never too late to get a college education
trez kinda weird for being that old
Wdym weird
daddy finally A
BIG BOY
What do you mean he's weird!!!
sry

Why is 000 Edwin big boy but 003 Trez small 
But not right now. I can be free 
Explain this double standard
finally i can put him on my t7 
lmao
This round won’t let me be free though
Taking T7 
i need to ascend salaki for a t7

t7 is whale?
gabe asking how trez is weird like Joe Pesci in Goodfellas
One of them is over a year and a half since release
i want to e60 trez but i can't justify it
Hold on I have to do math to remember exactly how old trez is
700? baka
I just got him ascended not long ago, game refuses to give me copies 
ironic given there's a few ppl who use the 3:1 swap meaning for them, TG is 1500
That's rough estimate I need to look at the lore book for a second
yeah that's the context in which that val come up
Try to find out what day is his birthday
Then we can celebrate his birthday
u know people who're actually doing it?
You can still SG an awk after maxing it?
i believe so
i have a spare aathalia cuz i hit double on the last copy (should have been keeping track of how many left and started singles..)
not f2p but I think Ensign was considering it

We know the month, and we know the year bc I asked how old he was
i think u should do it. could be interesting reaction when u post f2p comps on reddit and u have 7 wokes from doing rickety cart swaps 
going for most downvoted guide of all time
I can't remember what year were in in the game now but I'm just using the most recent year in the book so 1703, so trez is 669 years old as of that probably actually 701
I actually am considering it. I do not particularly like Olga or Tarnos
just have to save up 720k diamonds for an extra ascended woke 
its not a f2p account if its not <ch20
Krakens yeah
if u retired Ulric, you're not f2p
Yeah but why the fk would kraken do that
auto retire literally DELETES perfectly good heroes. anyone with it on is whaling
Idk there's some ppl who have said they've done it when it comes up in taverns

deletes the best hero in fact
Lord Dreaf has no equal
Yeah that's what I meant, I don't think I'd gaze dupes for swap at an effective 1500 cost
it is easier to end up with excess sg than tg. krakens are finished with sg heroes so what else are they gonna do with sg tix?
Actually the reverse atm
think kraken get more tg than sg @tranquil crane
There are more kraken with excess tg than sg
speaking for myself i have a bunch of spare tg but tons of stuff to sg
Krakens usually say they have excess TE because you need SG for every celepowoke stars but SG only for AWs
That they start tg-ing awaken to 5* using solely tg
if you’re 5 starring wokes you are burning through stargazers yeah
A high percentage of spender in my guild has stop using sg to star awaken bc of the amount of sht that require sg
krakens are weirdos
krakens scare me
Iz oke used 1000 tg instead of any sg bc the release rate of celehypo and the lack of the sg income
They live in a different world
there's a pretty high semi passive income of TG for a spender
you get them from competitive mode rewards, but also event passes etc
so even if you arent specifically buying them at all you can end up with a ton
1k?!?
I used 750 to 3* awsaf before sg last 6 copies
Wait I hit plus instead of minus its 732
that's pretty average rates for 5* woke
I dont have my glasses on
trez's age?
Yes
yeah almost exactly 37 per copy
I'm stupid
old man 
very decent but nothing crazy
I love him
olgath seems like opposite of futureproof
We had olgath before
That's from nothing to 5* right?
Because 37.x average is pretty good (but if it's A > 5* that's 66 average
)
Yep
Call zikis
I don't want to build him
i dont think 66 average is possible, is it?
pity is 65 right
Its good rate but u can see that sg become such a rare commodity that even kraken was like fk this sht
It shouldn't be, which is why it's prob nothing to 5*
Yeah, I've heard a lot of them say that TE is better for AW stars
it's iz oke, probably pulled from 0 to 5* in one sitting and stopped when the game said "it's at max ascension"
1k > 5* is the same average as 444 > A
I star w te
And I'm not even whaling rn
We can celebrate his birthday the whole month then
What month is it?
If you have enough time emblem income to A0 every woke as they come out, then the excess ones are objectively worse than stargazers
December
When do you have your glasses on 
U may not like it but this is the standard kraken inventory on cards - they still need to buy more core/baits and more sht every hero
When I'm at work

Trezember 
Yep
If I didn't use tc on star for saf I wouldn't have been able to finish dae
And I'm already over 220 tc again anyways
How?
Its sad , you use te once every 2 months and sg twice every 2 months
I had I think 165 after pulling for her
game get fairly expensive if you load sg
Pog
They gotta start making sg cheaper in the store its still mostly the same as tc except in some limited deals
165, that would be enough for u to pull a full woke azor
Not even close 
My rates are average
I should be able to work on 5th AW in ~Oct 
Avg 500 sg every ascended and then 300-500 for another 5*
so fk every celehypo , after ivan its a hypo too
And the conclusion is, I am too poor 
God please no having gb rn bad enough for me
Even kraken are getting poor
350 mae. 378 watha. 280 whane. i'm sure you could pull off 165
I was ready to just take the hypo
That's not average fuck
Azor im beating you
If I step on a leprechaun, I am sure I could pull it off 

Harder pleaser
do we think Solise is here to stay? I can probably ascend her really soon if I go for her because I already have like 3 copies randomly and that chest we got
Stay where
No and yes

No she will slowly get push out but the rate she get push out will probably give you enough time to get prep for another
I would only do it if you can afford her ts comps
Her current problem is you can’t heal death , thats a very hard cc to heal
Lmao
I have to do a budget comp no matter what unless I do Safiya
Where's your mae
it’s either Mae, Solise, Baden, or saf
Obvious choice is mae
devilboy #1 mae advocate 
That asolise comp is OK in ice and bad every other time without tarnos
It has no decent dive protection when we are crawling with good dive heroes
The dive protection is taken by other comp aka RCL
I’d rather whale olgath than Tarnos
Mae got bounced from NC interestingly
Baden is prolly safest bc 10B CR rounds
how does f2p whale anyway
Why would you whale olgath when you have no mae are you insane
well I’d only get olgath if I picked Mae xd
Yeah, but a lot of players still don't even do cr bc they can't decently compete
Olgath is for krakens only 
I got pretty good rates on athalia so I have like 350 cards left
Define decently compete
And i feel sorry for you
Olgath is for ppl who can afford to whale shit like another zikis or audrae and then replace it in 6 to 8 months
Tarnos has been here
Make it 3-4 months 
Yeah I was being generous
what’s a budget Mae comp then?
Olgath is weird because he's bis for a bunch of things but only a small improvement for how expensive he is
Cruke and tamrus?
Like to make it worth the diamonds spent on retries vs the rewards gotten
Bingo
What's your pets at rn
Secondhand knowledge: GBs or hypos like Cruke/Zol.
These feel like separate complaints
That's my rant yeah
mae cruke xyz
Well for Smog at least, prob Mae on smth like Stall
x y z is 3 heroes
u can run cruke mae thoran seal
Idk maybe my thought process just not coherent but most players under a year find cr more trouble and time and diamonds than its worth
Mae stall should be good with 15 Seal (for Smog at least)
Go for mae what are you doing considering solise
A lvl 12 fox and a 15 seal
AwSol has the same issue Olgath does, bis for a lot of things but only a small improvement
At least she's support
Yeah not as bad of a prob as Olgath, but comparison of the same type of issue
olgath op
yeah idk why I keep trying to convince myself to not get Mae. I loved using her trial even
I'm hesitant to say mae is even out of nc bc we still have nc bosses yet to be added and we don't know how that will change things so. Just bc saf is bis now I don't know how much that really changes priority for ppl who don't have mae or saf or baden or half the wokes in general
I'm tempted to say this isn't true but lack data for it
I mean this is just what ppl tell me they don't like doing cr bc it's time and diamond sink and they lack the older heroes at the proper investment to make the comps tic
Bc cr is time and diamond sink
Unless you're whaling and can plug both the gaps of ts and cr
Unless you have everything perfectly invest at 4036yourmomyourdad
I am still catching up on old heroes at the breakpoints I need
Scoring high is a very blunt dream
yeah I never use diamonds on extra CR runs because the reward brackets are terrible on the lower end
I personally only attempt t200 for the 50 baits difference from1%
Which is wild coming from a baby kraken with perfect meta shit
I'm not a good example bc my investments were not spread properly
That seems depressing
I could drop 100k diamonds for perfect rng for a frame
Or let jesus give it to me naturally and save 100k
Cr frustrates me bc I have to weigh how much I want a good score vs how much I want to cram rc bc I don't have enough diamonds to do both
Considering how rng cr is bc of seal and other sht , i would like to keep my 100k
There's newer krakens that rank abt as high as me in cr but they're also burning mega fucking diamonds like ggk
Resetting tree and shit
Fuck that
I'd rather keep getting 1 or 2 rc a day
Related: is Crappio used anywhere besides NC
Who
mauler tower
Right gooksta
Towers
im kinda surprised ggks tree is even big enough to justify resetting, last I checked it wasn't huge
He's probably doing it to fiddle w the rng
It just sounds like I'd have more fun slamming my dick in a car door frankly
I mean he's got only tree to whale now so it's probably bigger now?
yeah fair its been a minute since I looked
He's still missing some cr stuff we were talking abt how frustrating it is to be a rather new whale and catching up on old shit you're kinda sus about
What his account again gabe
It's some korean shit
This?
you can find him near top of r44 ts
yeah that's it
Yes that's him
his tree is tiny, im pretty skeptical thats a good use of diamonds but i havent done any real exhaustive analysis by any means
Yeah definitely missing a lot from just looking at his ts
wow my tree is bigger
He's missing shit but that's how it be when you're new whale
Near the top
He's the 1st one
And then on top of that you're competing in cr w big tree and big pet
Hes 30 pts off
But yeah
Oh, last round he finished 1st
Near the top
Hes 16 or something vip wise?
15 I think

Thats the true 100 pts gap

Scared
im actually kinda surprised at how tiny all the trees in r44 are
Bc tree is last thing to whale
Pretty normal
It's stupid expensive for no reason
Its rlly not gabe
by comparison, here's the guy I have to fight in R45
I gave you the math
Its call region specific spending
Scared
Bigger branches than me
On some of those
Oldest region would have excess in faction scroll and sht
Older region would have excess in SI bc thats what they would whale on in those era
So on and so on , which explain why you have pet reso 18 and garbage tree
Its also a centric focus
Average player has time to invest into sht while new spender is spending on what was optimise efficiently for the new pcap
Garbage tree 
Yeah I get it
I'm missing some si on random cr shit ppl in my general server age have bc I just didn't play much for 2 years
Playing catch up also not great
Thats why the asian exodus has giant furniture
Yeah that makes sense
And then after that is when you see a bunch of e60+ ainz and shit bc engravings
Ppl who were whaling harder for the new p creep
Yeah cus math always favor whatever new power creep is
lol I have a bigger tree than any of the top 3 in R44, thats wild
My tree is only just now hurting me in pvp bc finally ppl are catching up w lvl 18 rc that's how well lvl 15/18 pets carried me for so long
I could keep pushing pets but I don't want to
just gonna fix tree and then wait for next power creep
yeah I still prioritize baits over juice but only barely. I have to factor in that the value of baits is going to nosedive once I hit 18s
so in effect im kinda losing a ton of future value... thats probably not a good way to mentally frame it
I mean depends on what game mode you're doing bc from 18 to 36 that's cr and ae/hf shit
It will matter more to different ppl
Even with tree gabe , sometimes its good tactics
Well yeah

Not sure about that - new pets will keep coming, so past pet investment = worthwhile via reso. You can probably slow down baits once you start getting close to higher reso tiers?
It's important to realize where you start losing more than you gain bc that's how ppl are stuck now w e80 ainz e80 36f Lucy ect
We're talking over 18 rc here
Sooner u get to 18 rc , faster you can branch out
Exactly
Which was the same philosophy with red si and tree for awhile
Oh whoops - never mind me, accidentally swam out of my tadpole pond into a kraken ocean. Going to glide back, you never saw me, please don’t swallow me.
we're really putting the kraken into kraken chat tonight
We're due a new pcreep soon I wouldn't pick now to push over 18 really hard
3-4 max branch and couple of dumb sht si till u can branch out
I'm not into vore you're safe
After 18 rc , i default back into red core
Had to Google that.
But even then im still behind in e80
vip18 only chat
Are you new to the internet
That's def what I would've done. Although realistically I'll be working on next creep by the time I'm at reso 18
Behind in e80 
I’m beginning to think I’ve lived a sheltered life…
I'm behind on furn more than anything else
If this new gb is meta for hf I will kms
You're boned
You could come to the hole 
Considering the next creep is a month or two away
Very likely
Probably right before or during next hf
Well 100% won't have reso 18 before next creep, I wonder if I'll even be able to still focus baits after it gets released 
I'm sure they'll add bait in more places once they release this new thing
does HoE come on a regular rotation?
Not really? It's pretty rare too
Is there an actual known new power system incoming, or is this speculation based on the general cycle of things?
Perhaps both
Kraken insider info? 
I been in this game for 4 yrs - they usually do it around this time
Beasts was a bit later than usual
@polar dune Do u know the most efficient way to whale pet reso?
is it to use the new pet and level it up for the growth bundles?
Efficient as in cheapest or quickest or in bewteen
Flaw I told him to ask you bc I probably did not whale them efficiently at the start 
Gotta be more specific
can you give me the cheapest and the quickest

im only trying to get reso 9 rn id maybe drop 1k usd
Quickest - run down the list of every deal , push and pop every deal and take baits , wait for event and max that sht out , yuexi max , red box 1000 baits
Cheapest - wait for battle pass (abex+pet battle pass+and whatever this was)
You also want to min/max event , buying only special deal , this current event mean you buy up to before $25 bc it give 100-110 efficiency coefficient while $25 only have 88
Basically what I did at the start of pets the fast expensive one 
yeah i didnt take baits from that even i believe i got red chests or something i forgot. but it should be ending soon right
my acc is still newer so i didnt go with baits yet
Cant get red chest from that
i forgot what i took let me see
WTF
can anyone help me fix my last 2 teams. give me recommendations
Morning scromblers 

Scarlet middle back could try dae for rosa, rosa is very slow and useless for pvp
But also you still have top heavy box, wr will look weird 
Let me show you what wr look like in t20
eh with his box id still find a use for rosa somewhere
What's dae min investment for pvp Gabe ? 
203 for Blue, 30330 for Smog, 30930 for Red/Green
oh wait this is only 4 team... yeah maybe save rosa for 5t?
M30 for me I was using her in abaden, like 56% wr in t20 was surprising I think at 4 teams last debuff
I think dae will be better than rosa
Hi smoku
Yeah she's nuts
Zappy had m20 or something dae and some other M comp and it was 2x as high as his abel wr

I was getting like 50-70% with 303 Dae in Blue
Atm she's like ~50% with 30336 in Smog
Wr gets weird, pay attention to rank as well
also boosted my abel comp in ae by like 2-3b 

this guy is 6 RC ahead of me and he wasnt even on my radar a couple weeks ago
found someone else who buys yuexi dust 
Thanks, won't go far with my M20/M30 dae 
Depends a lot more on the rest of the team whether she works at M30, she def can with a strong core
Debating between taking cruke to si30 or dae
Trying to find where zappy sent his m dae team
Dae SI30 is pretty big for TS
And hes in a hard region
I have Mae so I would go for cruke but idk
Good to see Kaia getting challenged now
Or soon
I'm def not #1 on my server rn at least not for a couple weeks
Arena is kinda whatever for whales that do good in ts
its whatever for like 99% of people 
I'm 2# in arena bc 1 is rc 720
What engravings for palmer
Use rapid strengthen
Kk
Hit it 1 time
well... he might have me beat on RC but he's not gonna get anywhere until he uh. stops being terrible?
I do admire the willingness to commit to 5 star wokes tho
T1 
Top 3 in my arena are all over rc800, 4 and 5 are 700+. But no one gives a fk about Arena so I can usually get like 3rd-5th ish

I told Kaia about him Gabe
Aww you're making whale friends
The dude legit can barely beat me cus he has over invested wokes lol
Kaia is ok 👍
Team comp and pets is everything
I'm 2nd in lct I think
Again same dude who doesn't do ts
I think top 5 are all over 100b cmbr in LCT 
I'm top 60-70 
Fück
what comps do you guys run at your level? hypos, saf, dims?
There's top 30 that are stronger than me but no one pays attention to LCT either
One guy I beat literally DM'd me to attack him more because he was happy to see anyone in LCT 
every option for whaling shards is awful... i guess the random shards you get from event passes are good
Why azor 
I hope I can get Prince tomorrow and then get my 3rd AwBel from those SGs 
His cr is insane
I My friend needs to e30 like 3-4 units 
I need to e30 Raine, Skreg, Crassio, Mortas, Orthros, Edwin
(after AwBel)
I managed to go up to rank 45 I think by beating overleved people running shit like ainz, but I didn't stay there very long ...
I need to e60 my bel
you could leave abel at e4x for quite a while
It's prob because my RC is way higher than yours
her e60 itself is close to useless
prince tomorrow 
I'm so far away from prince 
you go higher than e4x for stats
Tell "ur friend" it never ends
I got my T8 today, only took 2 units per team 


You have the mythic relics and all class lvl4 ?
baller
Nah not yet, but should be done in 1-2 days
I went with sustenance first but that wasn't the best idea
I’m spectating this time because I’m on vacation, but I usually go tanks in AE and just steamroll t6 - t8 because tanks are immune to the faction debuffs
it’s the best way to do lazy AE imo
Now I'm at fort lvl 5 and sust lvl 5 
Do e4x on her first then come back for the e67 later
I know you're whaling but it's more efficient to spread Cores at first
I thought Might would have a harder time taking T8s but AwThane and AwBaden just killed them so fast that curse didn't matter 
I got a T8 two days ago when someone left one with one and a half team left 
I usually just leave unfinished T8s for others these days since I'm more than strong enough to take them myself 
Good guy 
Do people go over m+ on daemia?
You, Zod and I were like 95% of the north side pathing 
I had good rates so she's m+ on accident
Dae A1 is great
Huh
Mostly you and Zod 
Yeah like 50% Zod, 30% me, 10% you 
yeah pretty much 
When does it end kadezh tell me

I'm still in 3% TS with 45% wr; I don't know for how long tho 
Can't wait to see my TS in like Nov where I've got 7 viable teams but the meta is now 2 AWs per team 
Yes mine is 308e3x rn
She's a very good hero worth ascending for sure
Yeah it's already like that for me
I meant like, 2 AWs per team at 6% rank 
You're not at 6% are you 
What
Nah lmoa, but enemies from 3-6% are about the same
And it'll be even worse like 4 months from now
That’s pretty close to what round 1 is like now 
Round 1 is 6 wokes per team
Yeah it's already like that for like 3-4T, not that bad at 6T+ yet though
The lvl 18 pet is the 6th hero
I want bigger pets
Whale
I mean round 1 of rewards lol

Saw lots of baeden + Solise and Athalia + whatever
When I was bruteforcing KT during AwSaf trial I had 2 teams with 2 AWs 
Ah yeah true
Eorin burst is doing better than Thane 
I def won't ever get t100 but I could aim for 1-2% in the longterm
Maybe I should run Alna Rem GBs to free up Dae for dims 
AwThane burst is my highest WR, lowest is scuffed oversplit dims and scuffed no invest AwBel
What's in your dim teams 
65% on that wutus team 
Ikr, it's doing crazy well in Smog
I'm running merlin wutus bedo mulan anasta and I only have 36%
My other dim team is alna rem emi yen joan at 60%
It's probably also inflated by the fact that my other teams have shit WR though
Offscreen, AwThane 68%, Alna Rem Dae 50%
I might try your wutus team
What's your current dae invest ?
30336 Dae
I'd run Alna Rem GBs to move Dae back to dims but AwBaden makes everything scuffed
My gb are busy in some Mae GB comp rn
Which isn't doing that well
My highest wr is the team with scarlet 
AwBaden is giga scuffed without Alna, AwSol or 15 Seal
Get awSol or seal 15 then 
Seal is on WL 
If you are running haelus with Abel wouldn't that normally replace Palmer for a haelus raine Abel backline? 
I don't think f2p will realistically ever build AwSol with speed of AW releases + TE gain
I'm missing 10 copies for seal 15, and already have 6 spice saved, soon he'll be mine
I don't even have any other teams that want Palmer
Haelus is there over Raine because look at how meme tier my AwBel is 
Yeah ik, I was suggesting you to start whaling 

welcome to kraken chat 
Oh right old region with smol Abel 
Even the most efficient whale packs don't even remotely tempt me 
She's my 4th AW, her cmbr isn't high enough to take any buffs properly. She should be 3034x in <1 week ig
Come closer

What % do you need to be to get a frame in TS?
I didn't think TS had frames 
It doesn't? I thought it did
title plate is 10% iirc
Rank plates are diff to frames
That new treasure Commander thing will probably give a frame
Maybe yeah
I might have a chance at one. Will be nice to have another frame to not use 
I feel like it would be viable if no insane celepo for a while
like if all the new celepos are just framton rank it's kinda meh
but with the daemias that keep popping up from time to time, not really enough stargazers to be doing 5*
I think you'd have to save until at least 1500 sg for it to be worthwhile
teams feel a bit unbalanced, should i change anything around?
yes you could just do it as a long term investment, but the problem is we don't know if lilith will shadow ban the force gazing awakened
Would have to be on a giga old acc to be remotely a consideration too
so not worth unless you are sure that you can get a lot of value out of it
ye. You basically need to have your next best awakened be better than your next three best celepo
AND have the ability to afford any game breaking celepo that lilith might release soon
And have the A5 be on something extremely relevant
