treasure-scramble

[misty epoch]

Nerds

[thorny tartan]

[misty epoch]

Are you even doing comp AE?

[thorny tartan]

Me? Im spectating you guys

Or well Re that is

[misty epoch]

Watch smoku clown

[thorny tartan]

Never been spectator. Can I even see anything or do I just watch the map get taken over?

[earnest tendon]

[still heron]

Comp my ass

[lime zinc]

"As a spectator, can I see anything?"

[proven vault]

[misty epoch]

Only if you open your eyes

[coarse nest]

You have six eyes

[lime zinc]

I'm extremely spectating

[thorny tartan]

[earnest tendon]

lets spectate together

[still heron]

Behave sir

[sterile zinc]

Do spectators get the frames too?

[coarse nest]

I could spectate the spectators

[earnest tendon]

[proven vault]

[misty epoch]

Voyeurs

[misty epoch]

Yes

[earnest tendon]

what does that mean

[lime zinc]

It means you're spectating

[earnest tendon]

[sterile zinc]

that’s pretty sick

[earnest tendon]

m+ dae 6 more to go

[lime zinc]

Gl

[earnest tendon]

i have no more cards tho

[proven vault]

Buy some

[lime zinc]

I'm gonna feel nice and stupid if I push an AW to A in the next couple days and have 0 resources to go A1 since I have Dae A1

[earnest tendon]

[still heron]

[earnest tendon]

[proven vault]

that's me except my dae is only M

spent 120 sg got 2 mae copies

[lime zinc]

I pushed a bunch of random stuff to get enough for Dae A1

[still heron]

Can u guys plz stfu

My Dae is only L+

[tranquil crane]

Cursed Realm region based rewards when. I'm ranked #2 in R35... but 82% globally >_>

[lime zinc]

I'm 2.8% TS and 28% CR

[proven vault]

A big whale like you and still L+ Dae

[tranquil crane]

whats your ranking within your CR region?

[lime zinc]

Like 250ish

[tranquil crane]

Not bad 🙂

[thin ermine]

whose e60 do u guys think is more important? Daemia, Emilia, or Talene?

for TS of course and maybe CR/NC

[earnest tendon]

feed her

u have funds i bet

[lime zinc]

Talene most important overall (because they're all minor but Talene needs e60 for CR)
For TS alone, probably Emi...?

[still heron]

Shes my next 309 E60 goal

[earnest tendon]

feed her faster

[lime zinc]

Dae e60 seems really unnecessary outside of ranks that need 30960 minimum everything

[still heron]

Bish i did 308 E60 AwSafiya today

[earnest tendon]

whel talk shh

[misty epoch]

Aye

[earnest tendon]

where 9f

[misty epoch]

No money left for IKEA

[gaunt marten]

8f

[earnest tendon]

[gaunt marten]

[thin ermine]

true that. guess ill do talene

[still heron]

Go to hell

[earnest tendon]

[still heron]

U fücks

[lime zinc]

Oh uh caveat to Talene, it's pointless if you don't have Orth 3F

[thin ermine]

309 orthos here

[storm moth]

huge and fun

[lime zinc]

[earnest tendon]

whel

[gaunt marten]

Huge and fun

[lime zinc]

I've got 309 Orth too wdym

[still heron]

Smoku is hyped

[earnest tendon]

u whel too

[lime zinc]

[thin ermine]

lol si30 comes naturally 9f cause on wl forever

[earnest tendon]

[earnest tendon]

im just jokin

[thin ermine]

[earnest tendon]

i meant to say kraken

[thin ermine]

[lime zinc]

"im just kraken "

[earnest tendon]

[thin ermine]

[misty epoch]

What is huge and fun? 👀

[earnest tendon]

[thin ermine]

[still heron]

I bet its in gabe's pants

[earnest tendon]

[gaunt marten]

[lime zinc]

His phone?

[still heron]

Or urs

[gaunt marten]

My wallet?

[earnest tendon]

[gaunt marten]

My beats pro earbuds?

[earnest tendon]

yeah definitely wallet

[thin ermine]

[earnest tendon]

kadezh was talking about ur wallet

[lime zinc]

Is that a beats pro earbuds or are you just happy to see me

[misty epoch]

Explain yourself sir

[earnest tendon]

[still heron]

No

[misty epoch]

Lmfao

[gaunt marten]

My keys with like 3 thaden keychains on it

[earnest tendon]

[gaunt marten]

I'm scared

[earnest tendon]

thats a weapon sir

[gaunt marten]

It has 5 wesker keychains too

[storm moth]

[gaunt marten]

I really like resident evil

[thorny tartan]

Heh turns out I never went past e30 with Luc. What nodes does she want?

[earnest tendon]

[gaunt marten]

[storm moth]

[earnest tendon]

smoluc

[thin ermine]

[gaunt marten]

Why luc so smol

[thorny tartan]

And I kept blaming @spice finch why his luc clears never worked for me

[earnest tendon]

[gaunt marten]

JDHSJCBSJSJ

[lime zinc]

[earnest tendon]

gabe having a stroke

[gaunt marten]

[lime zinc]

It's morse code

[earnest tendon]

[lime zinc]

For "I'm having a stroke"

[gaunt marten]

It's horse code

[earnest tendon]

[still heron]

im dead

[earnest tendon]

ded no talk

[lime zinc]

Nay

[tranquil crane]

bigger than my luc >_>

[earnest tendon]

[thin ermine]

i think lucy is e67 or something

[thorny tartan]

Why does the engraving guide not take the dodge node but acc and secondary haste instead?

[lime zinc]

Idk, I have e61

[worthy rapids]

i think she doesnt need dodge to cheese

[earnest tendon]

mine 31960

[worthy rapids]

she either have dmg to clear or not

[thorny tartan]

Welp got her to e44. Still enough cores for e60 mae

[still heron]

Sir the question is....why was ur Lucy only E30

[worthy rapids]

whal not whaling

[thorny tartan]

I assume because I was broke at the time?

Core broke that is

[still heron]

Excuses doesnt count here sir

[thorny tartan]

I am past the co requirements now in campaign so I cant be blamed

[feral coral]

Time?

[feral coral]

[worthy rapids]

[lime zinc]

Oh I haven't looked at this week's NC buff

[lime zinc]

[thorny tartan]

Look at the comp sir. Its budget af

[worthy rapids]

its such a scam that brutus kren comp timeouts a lot of time and this gets 1:02

[feral coral]

The buff is really good

[worthy rapids]

wtf abex hits tomorrow

i dont have the 3k

[gaunt marten]

Panic

Go spank ppl in arena for pitmaster chests

[sour jay]

Time to buy 3k dia for like $99 or whatever absurd price raw diamonds are

[worthy rapids]

[lime zinc]

It's literally just because of cele buff. The comp would prob timeout without buff

[sour jay]

This is a life lesson, hoard your guild boss boxes so you have backup just in case

[worthy rapids]

its actually 13k

[gaunt marten]

Wow a bargain

[lime zinc]

[worthy rapids]

how do i refresh the shop then

[sour jay]

You get a lot of diamonds every day

[worthy rapids]

yes and i use them

[sour jay]

Are you rc cramming

[worthy rapids]

me 357

[sour jay]

🐋

[worthy rapids]

celows is 356 but hes holding like 4000 dust boxes

[lime zinc]

That number looks back to front

[sour jay]

I have lots of exp and dust but no gold

[worthy rapids]

take mine

[lime zinc]

I've got 20b exp and 1b gold but no dust

[worthy rapids]

how do you even accumulate gold when you need 15mln/day just for the shop

[lime zinc]

You earn more than 15mil a day ig

[worthy rapids]

impossible

[lime zinc]

Idk how much gold/D I get myself, each KT stage is like 7m tho

[rich tree]

no gold to RC cram

[worthy rapids]

kt doesnt work

[rich tree]

exclude KT, thats a bonus until capped

[worthy rapids]

i cant even merc it anymore cause my main 5 is higher rating than mercs

i need some shiny wokes in fl

[lime zinc]

KT isn't daily gain, just mentioned it as smth that gives a lot

I don't think my gold really goes up either tbh, it's just stable at ~1b

[worthy rapids]

hackz

[lime zinc]

So I've never actually calced my total daily gain (including all the random chests from events/lab) but it's probably roughly 20-25m

[spice finch]

how did it take so long for you to notice that

[thorny tartan]

Why would I ever look into the engraving screen of a hero that I finished?

[spice finch]

but did you??

[sour jay]

I hemorrhage gold upgrading gear for t3/4

[thorny tartan]

I mean I thought I did

[spice finch]

[worthy rapids]

i didnt even upgrade this cus too expensive

[lime zinc]

[earnest tendon]

[lime zinc]

I've got 3 class artis at 3* until I've got everything at 5

[lofty silo]

After 180 shards they pay themselves

[worthy rapids]

[earnest tendon]

[lime zinc]

[lofty silo]

After a while you will gain gold if you lvl it to 5* then sell the excess

That is how I leveled my artifacts

[lime zinc]

I always sell the excess so my stockpiles are small

[lofty silo]

I have over 300m gold there lol

I’m trying to go through it

But like it isn’t a lot, each stack is a full 5* gear set lol

[earnest tendon]

easy to eat up all that

[indigo quail]

50m

[worthy rapids]

getting them maxed naturally takes way too long

[dapper lance]

[obtuse mauve]

At this point I'm not sure Luc is necessarily a core hero anymore. I've been successfully avoiding her in ch44

[gaunt marten]

That's impressive

[thorny tartan]

I think i still use her in every multi

[tranquil crane]

same, chapter 40 without her

[cinder willow]

also seems rem has replaced lots of early heroes if you were lucky enough to get her

[obtuse mauve]

I have her built, but I'm not using her anymore

[feral coral]

Ch46 used her alot

[worthy rapids]

i feel bad now that i used swap scroll to get her

[obtuse mauve]

I mean you can use her, but I think she's increasingly avoidable and I won't be surprised if she's replaced not too far into the future. Her rng succs

[fair rapids]

Bec kraken

[obtuse mauve]

And people are too used to copying formations to even try other newer heroes

[worthy rapids]

salaki

[fair rapids]

Y'all ever just randomly. Have random T2 chest , and you have 0 clue where they came from

[worthy rapids]

GIB

AND EMBLEMS TOO

[obtuse mauve]

Like this. Not the highest possible deficit, definitely not in the whale deficits, but still a good example

[fair rapids]

I don't even know who I'ma T2

Probably emi and rem and someone else.

[gilded salmon]

Idk who to gear up next either

All my non dim carries have gear

[fair rapids]

Does ldv need gear

[worthy rapids]

prolly just for haste

[obtuse mauve]

Yes, for dodge too

[fair rapids]

I splurged and made totem man M and si10

[obtuse mauve]

[fair rapids]

🦜

[spice finch]

why is there not that many M heroes in your box anymore?

[fair rapids]

They slowly dispersed

[indigo quail]

[fair rapids]

Palmer is 1 copy off A

Rowan can be made A

[worthy rapids]

why you sorting by tier

[somber inlet]

Wtf how unlucky did I get

[fair rapids]

But he will fuck up able cycle with Raine

[somber inlet]

I spent around 500 te for myth+ and 1 copy of aathalia

[fair rapids]

Well it's bec box small

[obtuse mauve]

Ouch, sorry to hear that

[somber inlet]

I swear I hit pity or close to it every time wtf

[worthy rapids]

and i got mine to 1 off M+ in 220

[gilded salmon]

50 average isn't that bad

[spice finch]

too early to celebrate

[worthy rapids]

next voyage is 10 cards so its going to m+

[feral coral]

Mulan replacing lucy??

[gilded salmon]

I would love to swap my lucy out in an exchange event or something

[obtuse mauve]

Yes, ofc /j

More like a Mulan comp replacing a Lucy comp (I'll call it Mulan comp, even if eorin and tamrus did most of the work )

[fair rapids]

I have done around 370-ish and I'm at M+ on copies

[somber inlet]

Next 10 pull is 2x surely

[fair rapids]

I hope it's a triple so she will be A

[somber inlet]

For me not for u u lucky fk

[worthy rapids]

a guy in my guild got saf to 1* with 220 tgs and 90 sgs

[fair rapids]

[somber inlet]

I do want the animated pfp so it might be a yuexi angle

[fair rapids]

[tranquil crane]

ban him

[worthy rapids]

i dont believe him tbh but he said so

[feral coral]

You know, the more you show me mulan doing shit, the more I wanna e80 her

[gaunt marten]

Some guy in here earlier ascended asaf with 240 cards I think

It was their first work

[earnest tendon]

make it 15 for haste

[gaunt marten]

Mulan tears everything up I don't regret buying her

[somber inlet]

Ban all the lucksackers

[gaunt marten]

Random new players always get the crazy rng

[worthy rapids]

lilith wants you to sink in

[gaunt marten]

#classic-chat message

I was wrong it was abel

My abel was 620? I think I wanted to skin her

[earnest tendon]

then stop playing after a few months

[gaunt marten]

[somber inlet]

Mf said 540 for asolise and Abel i cba

[gaunt marten]

540 is what I spent on mae iirc

[obtuse mauve]

One thing I learned from playing gachas, there's always someone luckier than you in each instance of rng. I just pray it's not always the same person

[somber inlet]

This guy used up lifetime rng on those pulls

[gaunt marten]

It's fine bc then eventually they'll go over 600 for a woke and then quit

Looking at jd

[somber inlet]

I will use my lifetime rng on lottery ticket irl

[worthy rapids]

i feel like my woke rng is good but i still wanna quit

[gaunt marten]

Mines average

[somber inlet]

I think mine is pretty average as well

[fair rapids]

I could but I have more prios

[lofty silo]

I think there are more people that lie about their odds (or misscount) than really lucky people

[earnest tendon]

[fair rapids]

[obtuse mauve]

Maybe. I don't see the motivation for that, but that's definitely something internet age kids would do

[lime zinc]

True average should be w/e the true average is, but people that are especially lucky or unlucky are the ones that will talk about their rates the most (so it'll be what you see the most)

[lofty silo]

attention seeker

[somber inlet]

Some mfers rly are just that lucky tho

[lofty silo]

yes, and some screenshots are reused

[lime zinc]

And both lucky or unlucky people will have streaks of the opposite

[gaunt marten]

legit think that person was honest bc they seemed genuinely disappointed it took 240

[obtuse mauve]

[somber inlet]

Dude said finally

[feral coral]

1 copy every 20 pulls is too much for him ig

[gaunt marten]

i thought it was a typo

[worthy rapids]

they should make a server for people mentally unstable where the pity is 20 pulls

[gaunt marten]

thats where they need to keep zappy

i think if i spent 690 ascending a woke i would just delete my account

[solid monolith]

[worthy rapids]

[gaunt marten]

i mean am i wrong youd be first in line for the padded walls server

[feral coral]

And there are also these type of people

[solid monolith]

im already there

[dapper lance]

[solid monolith]

okay youre banned

[gaunt marten]

LMFAO

[obtuse mauve]

Simple solution, do like me and never count pulls. Ignorance is a bliss

[feral coral]

Quad pull should be illegal

[gaunt marten]

veri did you fucking pull that

[feral coral]

I wish

[lime zinc]

Aren't the odds of going 690 not even that rare

[gaunt marten]

i got a double saf pull thats it

i dont know that many people who went that high

[sour jay]

It's pretty rare to go full pity on every pull

[fair rapids]

I got 1 like always

[gaunt marten]

i think embla went around that for athane

[somber inlet]

I have 4 and 1 m+ and I don’t think I’ve ever had a double

[gaunt marten]

i get doubles on every woke, not sure if ive ever had a triple

[somber inlet]

Or maybe I just forgot

[lime zinc]

690 is averaging 57.5, so you're still quite a lot below pity

[gaunt marten]

the damage is already done six

[somber inlet]

Aren’t rates 1 in 40 tho

[sour jay]

Doesn't mean you are guaranteed 1 in 40

[gaunt marten]

if pity is 65 thats not well below it

[sour jay]

My maetria pulls are 1 in 56 right now

[somber inlet]

Yea but then 1 in 57.5 is very unlucky

[lime zinc]

It's 2% chance which is effectively better than 1/50 due to pity existing (but I don't know the math for what the effective % is)

I thought pity was at 70

[gaunt marten]

yeesshhh

[worthy rapids]

wasnt pity proved to be 65?

[obtuse mauve]

Chance of getting at least one copy for 57 pulls is around 70% , if it's uniformly distributed

[fair rapids]

My able pulls are quite shit
Took 3 months for M+

[solid monolith]

idk the math, but the first 60 are/were discounted as well

[gaunt marten]

theres no real proof unless lilith comes out and says it, we just have what are the best theories atm

[sour jay]

It's not uniformly, the way it works is weird

[solid monolith]

lilith official stance is there is no pity, so

good luck

[gaunt marten]

i find that so hard to believe

[worthy rapids]

just need some whales to do singles and if anyone gets after 66 pulls theory failes

[sour jay]

You seem to have increased chance on the higher end until it's 100% but it's not a linear scale either

[lofty silo]

I do single after 60 and never got over 70 but I don't remember what the highest number I got

[lime zinc]

Well I know I'm 60 deep because I did all of AwAtha discount with 0 copies, so I'll see how high I can get this week

[somber inlet]

If there was no pity there would be at least one poor shitter out there with 200 pulls no woke

[gaunt marten]

lmfao

[toxic prawn]

I pulled saf in 65 exactly

[gaunt marten]

there are ppl who swear that but no one can prove it

[lime zinc]

Going off my memory I'm like 700 bait deep without a beast, which makes me really confused because I'm pretty sure my memory is wrong (and it's not that bad rn) but I remember each pull

[gaunt marten]

i started screen recording my woke pulls bc my memory is bad

[toxic prawn]

1.76% chance of that happening

[dusk tundra]

guys is edwin any good later on the game

[somber inlet]

300 then

[gaunt marten]

i cant remember if sg is 65 or 70 but theres no proof of anyone going over 70

[sour jay]

Nobody at Lilith plays their game so support is unreliable at best

[lime zinc]

That's way higher chance than I would've guessed

[gaunt marten]

in ts hes used in seal stall comps, hes in cr nc towers

ae, likely going to be in hf too

[dusk tundra]

ok thx

[somber inlet]

Some guy in lost ark hit 1 in 9 million odds so I’m sure someone has hit something similarly stupid in afk

[toxic prawn]

.23%

[gaunt marten]

id put him after hodgkin in gb priority

[lime zinc]

On one hand, I want to go over 70 just to see if it's possible
On the other, I don't have literal evidence of any of my pulls so it wouldn't even be proof

[feral coral]

One of my vei copies was 76

[gaunt marten]

[worthy rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-toons-cartoons-animation-gif-14827466

[feral coral]

[gaunt marten]

i want to believe you i would just think that at some point someone would have a video of going over 70 and i just havent seen one

i think there was one on weibo or something

[somber inlet]

Yea I think someone def would’ve clipped it cuz they’d be fking malding

[lime zinc]

I'm just always surprised people don't get closer to 60 average

[gaunt marten]

a lot of ppl record their pulls and if it could happen statistically it should be recorded enough that we would definitely say it happens

[toxic prawn]

If they added a summon history this would all be solved

[somber inlet]

Or maybe some guy went 200 no woke and there’s no recording cuz he broke his device

[gaunt marten]

if it does happen i do think its a fucking bug and thats why the official stance it there is no pity

[gaunt marten]

[worthy rapids]

if they state there is no pitty then it must be a feature

[lime zinc]

Oh actually, the other day I was talking about scaling soft pity (increase chance by X% after Y pulls dry)
And I wouldn't be surprised if there's no hard pity and that the % draw chance isn't 2%, but the maths ends up as an average 2% (not based on actual AFK info, just guesses based on other models)

[toxic prawn]

It’s illegal to lie about probabilities, no game developers would ever risk that

[worthy rapids]

but then back to backs would be insanely rare if it was scaling up

[lime zinc]

No like, it's not lying about the chance because the effective chance results in 2%
Kind of thing

[tranquil crane]

supposedly the actual average is somewhere between 39 and 43, according to empirical testing... but I wasn't involved in that testing so I can't vouch anything

[obtuse mauve]

In another game I've played the community made a huge data collection to prove that the announced rates were wrong

[toxic prawn]

Still illegal. If you are at 0 pity and pull once, the hit chance has to be 2%, otherwise they are lying

[obtuse mauve]

Devs were forced to fix it

[obtuse mauve]

It depends on the country, I think

[sour jay]

It's not illegal if nobody sues them for it

[quartz salmon]

If 2% includes pity then they aren’t lying about it, game says 2%

[toxic prawn]

It does but I’m playing in USA, so they have to abide by our rules

[lime zinc]

[toxic prawn]

Otherwise it would be banned in America

[obtuse mauve]

That's a bold claim

[quartz salmon]

[toxic prawn]

I’m not saying America is special I’m just saying that if the game is available in your country it has to follow that countries rules

[feral coral]

Perhaps? Otherwise they'd be off the Play store/app store

[toxic prawn]

Gambling laws I mean

[sour jay]

Someone would have to report them with evidence anyway, which won't happen

[gaunt marten]

its illegal to lie about the rates being GREATER than they are

it would be taken off of the play store if it doesnt abide by the rules set to be on the play store

[quartz salmon]

Does the game states anywhere the rate is 2% + there is the pity mechanism? They can’t lie about rates but ig they can be sneaky with it, like the 2% could be the average of actual rate + pity which comes out to be 2%

[gaunt marten]

i think thats been brought up before

[worthy rapids]

there is 2%

[quartz salmon]

You can see 2% in the sg tavern but it doesn’t specify anything tbh

[gaunt marten]

basically its not illegal to lie about the rates unless youre promising greater rates than the actual amount

but then, you have to be able to prove it

[quartz salmon]

It could be any of the two situations, at least I’m not aware of any material proving one of the two

[somber inlet]

How would u even prove it

[gaunt marten]

theres like two major theories, one is fairly new and then the other one is the soft and hard pity timers

[toxic prawn]

Either looking through code or law of large numbers

[feral coral]

Do tens of thousands of summons

[gaunt marten]

i understand the law not the math sadly

[somber inlet]

Even if u compiled a massive amount of pulls, how do u prove that those pulls are actual pulls and not ppl bsing

[obtuse mauve]

Iirc, I saw some study with data collection from afk that seemed to roughly match the promised rates

[worthy rapids]

if the avg is really 2% then the normal distribution thing would show A LOT of people getting less than 2% which is not true

[gaunt marten]

its why ppl doing this stuff have been using models to compare to actual data and then promised rates

[gaunt marten]

screen record everything

its a whole fucking endeavor for sure

[toxic prawn]

I’m guessing it’s simply 2% with hard pity at 65 maybe 70, haven’t seen proof of a 70 before. No soft pity

[gaunt marten]

theres a recent theory and then the 2 timer theory

[somber inlet]

All that effort for a court case that’ll probably get dragged out for 5 years and eventually fine the company like 100k or something

[gaunt marten]

yep exactly

[feral coral]

And then they lose customers maybe

[obtuse mauve]

It's more about bad rep and store removal, honestly

[somber inlet]

Store removal prob wouldn’t happen cuz they would just pay the fine and fix the rates, but the bad rep I can kinda see

[obtuse mauve]

Yeah, store removal is usually about malware stuff, like miners

[gaunt marten]

i mean lilith was sued but the case was dismissed pretty early back in 2022 over rise of kingdoms i dont think theyre particularly shady or that they want to bring on that legal heat

if anything the case being dismissed so fast made them look more positive with a judge siding with them so quickly

[little cairn]

Honestly lilith is doing quite well for f2p here

afk is probably the most f2p friendly game like this that I have played

[obtuse mauve]

The other game I played, once it became clear the rates were wrong, devs fixed it. It's hard to say for sure, but general feeling was that it was a bug and not intentional. They just took too long to fix because they were very incompetent in many fronts

[little cairn]

So they don't seem shady at all

Tho it would be nice if they just came out with a pity number

I know so many people that say they used more than 70 tg for a copy

[gaunt marten]

i talk to some ppl who work in the industry on other games not just afk and there is just rampant incompetence and mismanagement that leads to these kinds of incongruencies

its not malicious but good luck gaining trust after the fact

[gaunt marten]

they need to move toward having a counter and a hard pity timer, more and more games have this

[little cairn]

Just share more baden and trez art and they got gabe on their side

[gaunt marten]

i mean they already have like 17k of my money

[little cairn]

[gaunt marten]

i mean the baden and trez wont hurt

they do put trez in a lot of stuff ever since abaden came out

[earnest tendon]

thats very deep

[gaunt marten]

[earnest tendon]

[proven hearth]

[quartz salmon]

[tranquil crane]

did ya already take the plunge on mae?

[gaunt marten]

i bet @main abyss would like to take the plunge on mae

[main abyss]

[quartz salmon]

[gaunt marten]

[earnest tendon]

i would too if i had the tot for it

[gaunt marten]

i found my box from november

who wants to see what i gave embla and told her to help me make ts teams

[sterile zinc]

Maybe

[earnest tendon]

[misty epoch]

Ahhh, life is so beautiful

[earnest tendon]

[sterile zinc]

[misty epoch]

1. Baeden Trez Silas Baden PoP
2. Gwyn Thoran Raku Rowan Daimon
3. Mishka Anoki Geralt Eironn Oden

Try these teams and then adjust according to winrates

[earnest tendon]

Life is beautiful

[sterile zinc]

Yeah I did, I had pretty good rates tho and I could possibly go for safiya in a bit how’s safiya for you?

[sour jay]

whales don't deserve good rates 😠

[earnest tendon]

[misty epoch]

How many cards sir?

I am tempted to go for Mae too

[sterile zinc]

I had 3 doubles that’s all I’m saying

[misty epoch]

Share rates or else

[earnest tendon]

[misty epoch]

I got AAtha in 380 cards so will probably get shafted on my next woke

[sour jay]

don't do it you'll get my rates and die

mae is cursed nnoitora also got bad rates

[misty epoch]

Ok fk Mae

Why won't she fall out of meta already

[earnest tendon]

Then its time for someone to get good rates

[gaunt marten]

Ah yes baden baden comp

[sour jay]

you can only get good rates on belinda and athalia

[misty epoch]

They won't know what hit them

[gaunt marten]

She wont

[misty epoch]

Clones for dayzzzz

[gaunt marten]

Have fun

[misty epoch]

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee trez bed party

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1114915684955209788/trezbedparty.gif

[gaunt marten]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1093269491829461032/trezbedparty.gif

[misty epoch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1114915684955209788/trezbedparty.gif

[raven lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1114915684955209788/trezbedparty.gif

[misty epoch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1114915684955209788/trezbedparty.gif

[raven lark]

who is making these emotes 😭

[rich tree]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1093269491829461032/trezbedparty.gif

[misty epoch]

Shut the fuck up and join the party

[raven lark]

:azor:

https://tenor.com/view/psyduck-gif-23041976

[raven lark]

LMAO

[misty epoch]

Psyduck was invited to the party

[misty epoch]

LMFAO WHAT IS THAAAAAAT?????

[gaunt marten]

Crofty asked for the full trezsweat file then came back w that

[misty epoch]

Trez bus party

[sour jay]

new?

[misty epoch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1125918918381420624/trez_vroom.gif

[sour jay]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1125918918381420624/trez_vroom.gif

[raven lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1125918918381420624/trez_vroom.gif

[misty epoch]

This is so funny I can't

[raven lark]

someone is actually taking their time to make those

[gaunt marten]

I need more trez gifs

[raven lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1125918918381420624/trez_vroom.gif

[misty epoch]

Make me want to learn to draw

[gaunt marten]

Rai went frame by frame in bedparty to overlay the trezs on each frame

And I just have a bunch thst zappy made

[raven lark]

😭

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1114915684955209788/trezbedparty.gif

worth it

[misty epoch]

Pay someone on fiverr to make a bunch of trez gifs

[misty epoch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1125919767799267348/trezsphere.gif

[misty epoch]

^ my favourite

[gaunt marten]

Zappy creations

[misty epoch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1125919965153873930/fixedgaben.gif

If he got increasingly smaller as he's spinning it would be perfect

[gaunt marten]

He made that

[misty epoch]

Gib

[misty epoch]

So cute 🥹

[worthy rapids]

why hes flying backwards

[gilded salmon]

hes getting sucked into the hole

[worthy rapids]

no the camera man is getting far

[misty epoch]

Yes, he's getting sucked into one of Gabe's discord channels

[gaunt marten]

That's where he belongs

[spice finch]

why is he always spinning

[gaunt marten]

In the 🕳

[misty epoch]

Can I fit in the hole with him?

It's almost 1 am already Gn scroumblers

[spice finch]

good night!

[gaunt marten]

[tranquil crane]

#treasure-scramble message

[carmine shale]

Wth ts chat, does ts stand for treznor scramble now? Lmao

[worthy rapids]

Scrambel not scrambling = offtopic

[sour jay]

it always did

[worthy rapids]

Dont forget last tap in isle of gold

[gaunt marten]

im sorry

part of my daily zappy menacing

we should change name of channel to treznor scramble

[worthy rapids]

I bet people wouldnt even realise

[solid monolith]

[tranquil crane]

thank for remind

[gaunt marten]

does the scrumble start this reset

please i neeed scronle

[tranquil crane]

Is there any way to check LC bets you aren't a part of? Like if I wanted to know how many people were betting on me vs my opponent?

[tranquil crane]

yeh

[gaunt marten]

yaayyy scrumble

[gilded salmon]

Waiting for ts to start: I sleep
Waiting for rift to start: real shit?

[gaunt marten]

why no scruble

awww lc r35 is so cute

look at these little baby teams

[tranquil crane]

we're adorbs

[gaunt marten]

yeah ill never be able to get past this stage of lc unless i majorly whale

[tranquil crane]

hack the servers to move your existing account to s1080 or whatever we're on

if you can't thats clearly a skill issue

[gaunt marten]

i would be top of the region if id just rerolled before whaling but whats done is done

ill just wait for everyone else to quit

[tranquil crane]

think of how much harder it would have been to max out trez on a new account

it was for the best you stuck with what you had~

[gaunt marten]

it wasnt that hard i mean i built him before i even really started whaling

the 24f to 36f costed 200$ though

in play points

[novel trellis]

Why am I getting info Archive point does not exist? If it didnt exist I wouldnt be able to click on that?

[gilded salmon]

what

[novel trellis]

Exactly what I said. If it didnt exist how could I possibly click on that? Where it comes from then?

[tranquil crane]

I've never heard of an info archive point as far as I recall

So I just have no idea what you are referring to

can you screenshot what you are talking about?

[mossy bridge]

are you guys gonna run albedo with the new debuff? or not worth it?

[tranquil crane]

I'm not gonna run albedo but mine is only 303e0

[gilded salmon]

I'm gonna try splitting dims off into other teams

and put albedo into some kinda stall I guess?

[novel trellis]

Oh damn, nvm. I missread the channel. I thought its Temporal Rift

[obtuse mauve]

Emi yen worked very well without albedo in ice. No reason why it won't work in fog, I think

[mossy bridge]

figured. mine isnt even si30 yet so I'll probably not run her, since she's linked to my ferael (dont have that many As yet)

[sour jay]

I will run albedo because it's a meat shield, in late teams

[gilded salmon]

I don't have yen 3f yet

[gaunt marten]

ppl on test were running dims exactly the same as before....and they didnt seem to suffer

but also that could mean no one was trying to see if they were any weaker than before

and try to make comps that could take advantage of it

[gilded salmon]

yeah but we also know people on test don't like experimenting

[gaunt marten]

and mae doesnt seem to have broken stride at all

[mossy bridge]

why do ppl play on test if they're not gonna do any testing

[sour jay]

my M+30 mae gonna carry me hard

test is the only version available in certain countries

[gilded salmon]

I wish I was on test cause easier competition

[obtuse mauve]

To record leaks for their guilds

[cinder willow]

@sour jay i expect top100 this TS

[gaunt marten]

bc its malayasia server also most ppl just do dailies on there and scope new stuff

[mossy bridge]

ohhh didnt know that

[sour jay]

lol I'm hoping to keep my 1%, getting bad rates on mae has killed all dreams

[cinder willow]

you got this

mae gbs late teams

finally hit 300

[gilded salmon]

nice

I'm at 180 and not sure what I'll be going for less than 50 furn from now

[cinder willow]

i was doing lots of poe for a while mid game

[tranquil crane]

awwwwwww yeah, gimme dem safiya hero growth rewards

[cinder willow]

finished her?

[tranquil crane]

nah but got her ascended

gonna decide how much of an investment priority she is depending on how people's testing goes

she's a woke so ill max her at some point during her reward track period but maybe not right away, depending

[sour jay]

what even is the reward for A, the game won't show us plebians

oh animated ofc

what about stars?

[shy ferry]

oh god this cyan debuff is gonna fk me up

all my teams are factionbased

[cinder willow]

just run abel and athalia burst

[sour jay]

don't worry your opponents teams are also faction based

[shy ferry]

thanks you solved 28% of my problem

[cinder willow]

yw

[sour jay]

the debuff basically does nothing but fuck albedo and hypos

[tranquil crane]

Stars 1 through 3

[cinder willow]

youre 5 staring her you whale

[tranquil crane]

and 4 through 5

[sour jay]

oh that's not very much at all, thanks

[tranquil crane]

no those are aathalia, but its the same for each hero type (wokes in this case)

well, same except that i guess the item upgrade stone is different lol

[cinder willow]

fair enough

im gonna start with this

[tranquil crane]

havent decided on team 2 but here's team 1

[cinder willow]

emi interesting

[gilded salmon]

ooh yeah I wanna do emi abel too

[trail swift]

someone make a list of heroes useless in this poopy new mode

[tranquil crane]

joker, albedo (albedo can still stall)

[sour jay]

e60 emi abel must be nuts

[gilded salmon]

no si30 kinda sucks though on my emi :/

[sour jay]

joker is poopy in all debuffs so it doesn't count lol

[cinder willow]

this is what im testing

[sour jay]

bedo just gets fucked, mae takes a hit but apparently is still good, hypos in general are worse off, everything else is basically irrelevant

[shy ferry]

the thing that annoys me the most about this mode is that we still have only 3 routes

but 4 debuffs now

[trail swift]

so it’s basically a few heroes are useless, talismane pet is shit now, and little other changes

what’s even the point

[cinder willow]

talis shit?

[shy ferry]

wait talismane is faction based?

[trail swift]

his gb hypo fear

[gilded salmon]

he fears hypo and gb

[sour jay]

talismane blind will still be good

and does decent dps

[trail swift]

well maybe not shit but his 9 is so good

[sterile inlet]

His fear is gb/pog

[shy ferry]

oh yeah if heroes are faction less does that mean t2 and below gear gets shwafted

lmao

t3 reso enjoyers get fucked

[sour jay]

i'm not sure how that one works

[cinder willow]

reso doesnt have gear effect anyway

[sterile inlet]

Wait albedo is fkd

[sour jay]

but again, that's something that effects both players equally so will be irrelevant

[cinder willow]

just gonna troll for t3

[tranquil crane]

so will there be any way to tell if Mae SP works here

[cinder willow]

doesnt

[thin ermine]

great....

[tranquil crane]

woke soup arguably works better in this debuff, abru SP

[cinder willow]

thats seal soup

[gaunt marten]

1 star is poe

[cinder willow]

i should have zolrath at 303 for t4/5

[gaunt marten]

as if woke soup doesnt work?

[rich tree]

alna+abel, GBs, scarlet?

[cinder willow]

scarLet

[gaunt marten]

lmao

[gaunt marten]

already confirmed it doesnt

[tranquil crane]

good to know

[cinder willow]

kaia for president this TS

[gaunt marten]

but also doesnt seem to impact her teams that much

in fact just probably frees up the hypos to go elsewhere

and dims seem mostly fine, test server just ran all the same shit until halfway through the season

[solid monolith]

someone give me teams to use

[gaunt marten]

but also again test didnt bother really seeing if theres better comps

[tranquil crane]

My day one executive order will be to ban power caps, thank you and good night.

[cinder willow]

what about donate to Quakie

[gaunt marten]

do my dreaf op team again

[cinder willow]

as another EO

[solid monolith]

man i keep foddering dreaf every time

[gaunt marten]

LMFAO MY PROBLEM TOO

[solid monolith]

[tranquil crane]

On the agenda for day 2 is adding an SP visual to comps. Sorry, perhaps we can fit you in somewhere down the line.

Day 3 is adding an option to restart Temporal Rift from floor 1 without a bunch of hassle.

[cinder willow]

day 4 reduce PoE wl to 6 heroes

[gaunt marten]

Best day 1 comp

i didnt forget to not fodder him

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1093269491829461032/trezbedparty.gif

[cinder willow]

donate trez pls

[gaunt marten]

every time i show trez this becomes a trez ebegging channel

im gonna start censoring him

onlytrez

[cinder willow]

ill trade mine, hes still a virgin

[gaunt marten]

AHEFIWEFJAWLIEFJAWLIERHWAJEFIHWAEF

[cinder willow]

thats a yes right?

[gaunt marten]

not for long

[cinder willow]

[gaunt marten]

i just have a big heart for every trez i want to feed them all

[cinder willow]

feed

[gaunt marten]

NO

[cinder willow]

crazyy

[solid monolith]

trez in disguise

[gaunt marten]

WHY IS THAT MKAING ME LAUGH SO HARD IT REMINDDS ME OF THE BIRD IN JAIL WHOS IDENTITY WAS CENSORED

[cinder willow]

zappy imagine they make your pfp into a pet

zapdos pet

[gaunt marten]

why did you do this to him

[solid monolith]

for his own protection

[gaunt marten]

why is he in witness protection

what did he see

[cinder willow]

he saw you taking this trez's card

[gaunt marten]

AEJRFEWJFWEIRFJAWIEFJAWEF

hes just so sad

his si isnt even activated

my god hes so sad

[rich tree]

mine's at E+

[cinder willow]

;>

[gaunt marten]

HES SO SAD

[tranquil crane]

what do you think gabe will do if you start taking downgrading his furniture

[gaunt marten]

please dont

hedoesnt even get resonated gear

[cinder willow]

thats what gabe did when he took his card, so ill leave that between them

[gaunt marten]

NO

fix him

[cinder willow]

fine.

[gaunt marten]

i wonder how many trez i can whale to 309e60 for 1200$

someone do the math

[cinder willow]

happy?

[gaunt marten]

STOP

youre making him naked

[rich tree]

i swear game is giving all the old people furniture, merlin took all the furns, now palmer is taking furns, next is gonna be LDV

[cinder willow]

so?

[gaunt marten]

why are you bullying him

[cinder willow]

he hasnt said no

[gaunt marten]

this is like when zappy signed into my account just to take trez off the crystal and took all his gear off

[tranquil crane]

Silence is not Consent

[cinder willow]

he whispered yes between his breath

[gaunt marten]

hey molesting men is strictly in my server we dont do that in this ts chat or we will get zapped

[cinder willow]

ill use trez

for TS purposes

next year

[gaunt marten]

hes going to get rolled why are you abusing him

[cinder willow]

lets compramise, next rc slot ill put him

and ill take him to SI:1

and return 5/9 of his gold furn

[oak yarrow]

Wat should I do for this round of ts

Team wise

[sour jay]

your best heros

[oak yarrow]

Nothin specific to the area or wtvr?

[tranquil crane]

lol I wonder how much the teams of top players influence the rest of their region

probably not much for anyone except the #1 player

[oak yarrow]

Like debuff

[sour jay]

albedo sucks for dim comps, otherwise basically nothing will change

maybe worry a little less about matching factions ig

[oak yarrow]

@toxic prawn

[sour jay]

ur famous

[rich tree]

Kaia's formations too whalely for new players

i wonder how much potato's is tho

capped views ?

[oak yarrow]

@tranquil crane could u help w teams for this round?

[sour jay]

primo doesn't trust me

[rich tree]

what did u do to the poor man

[sour jay]

i called him a kraken once

[oak yarrow]

Idk wym by best heros I got a lot of good heros but idk if there r specific formations for this round

[rich tree]

[oak yarrow]

Am f2pay

[sour jay]

the debuff is basically nonexistent, whatever your good teams are idk your box

[tranquil crane]

lmao why you are asking me, I'm not even 3 months into the game, there's battlescarred veterans everywhere in this channel

[sour jay]

dims just don't run albedo

[rich tree]

it's basically no team buffs? so all GB team is kinda pointless

just slap ur nukes in there and keep them alive

[oak yarrow]

Baelinda 4 copies off being finished

[sour jay]

yeah you can spread gbs around if you want, but it's not really a big deal imo

[tranquil crane]

neither of my teams for day 1 are stuff I'd usually run

[rich tree]

oh right so my abel is e4x, should I e6x her or e60 mae first?

[tranquil crane]

primo i doubt you can run my teams and they likely arent good anyways~

its team 1 rcl, team 2 seal, abru sp if you wanna try tho

[tranquil crane]

i would definitely e60 mae first, personally

[sour jay]

mae e60 is required, belinda's is "okay"

[obtuse mauve]

My first ever double pet pull

[sour jay]

[rich tree]

kk just checking, e60 mae, then mishka, then haelus if I ever get his god damn furns

[tranquil crane]

dangggg 🎉

[rich tree]

3f or 9f mae?

[sour jay]

always 309 wokes tbh

I hear the 9f is not like, super big but still get it

[rich tree]

ugh, red card all in worth or 8/9 then use?

[sour jay]

prob depends on what else you got. you should get a whale guild to ask

[rich tree]

Kaia's the whale here

[sour jay]

kaia should get a whale guild too (i think they did?)

[rich tree]

we just got gabe terrorizing zappy in olympians

[sour jay]

gabe knows a lot

[toxic prawn]

឵឵

[tranquil crane]

neg, waiting on this condition:

#treasure-scramble message

[sour jay]

I think you'll be waiting a long time

never heard of a guild doing videos, but I'm sure someone would do text for you

[gaunt marten]

the top 20 are pretty influential i dont think that many people check the top 1 to copy for most regions, maybe in new regions

but i cant fucking copy ghibly

[mossy bridge]

thoughts on my 2 teams? it's random bullshit go but I don't have that much to work with lol. R45, i'd like to get top 10%

[tranquil crane]

wait where is all this even coming from, you only have 15 followers lmao

[tranquil crane]

id go full burst on the top team personally, put in lyca and take out either oden or rowan, but ignore my advice if anyone else chimes in cuz im a newbie compared to everyone else here

[coarse nest]

You guys know if asafiya any good yet? Or needs more testing?

[gaunt marten]

needs more testing

[coarse nest]

Skill animations are nice tho

Gotta admit

[gaunt marten]

she seems to be pretty good in some abrutus comps on test, and in alna gb

[mossy bridge]

ty!

[gaunt marten]

with 80% wr i believe

zod was looking around on test for ppl running her and found a few

again as ive been saying, expect little to no testing outside of ae

we likely wont know much until the end of the month

[coarse nest]

Yea, only whales and krakens could test easily

[gaunt marten]

not really the dude doing alna gb saf isnt a whale

just takes people who are competent at comp building and also maybe skipped awthalia

[coarse nest]

Well it's probably harder to test since abex is only twice a yearish too

[gaunt marten]

weve had ae like 3 times just in the past 4 months

[tranquil crane]

its gotta be more than that, right? last abex started early may

less than two months ago

[gaunt marten]

and no its more like, no one who is doing testing is paying attention to anything but ae while ae is happening

[coarse nest]

Sry, haven't been keeping track of abex

[gaunt marten]

too many ae

[coarse nest]

maybe a couple times

[rich tree]

campaign probably

[tranquil crane]

ahhh lol that makes sense, they're checking every comp as they go

[rich tree]

and some people copying my TS comp since i only have 1 woke lmao

[tranquil crane]

im pretty sure all my views are from TS and LC, my campaign clears are trash

[rich tree]

I look at ur TS and i'm like nope let's not bother

[tranquil crane]

fair 😄

[gaunt marten]

my formations were viewed 155 times

yaaayy

[coarse nest]

My viewers are mostly from TR I think

[tranquil crane]

I wish there were sort options for folks you're following, I sometimes use my follows list to find someone, especially if they're characters I can't type (hangul, etc)

but I'm following like, a hundred top players plus half you scrubs in this channel so it can be slow

[rich tree]

we prefer to be called scrumblers

[coarse nest]

Two more copies

[toxic prawn]

Yup I’m famous

[tranquil crane]

oh and the other category of people I'm following: folks I'm about to fight in LC

zero reason I would ever follow him otherwise

[coarse nest]

Did you ever get LC r64 frame yet?

[rich tree]

does potato beat u?

[tranquil crane]

can i has ur autograph sir

[toxic prawn]

I don’t know that’s the first time I’ve ever looked at that

Probably tr, I’m usually 1st

[tranquil crane]

nice work

[rich tree]

how are ur campaign clears whalely or decent spend?

[oak yarrow]

Can u help w scramble teams

[coarse nest]

roster?

[toxic prawn]

It’s definitely not campaign, I like to go easy in there

[rich tree]

trying to find a comp that doesnt have a 5* call >.>

[coarse nest]

Does abel still work at M+ kinda for TS?

[lofty silo]

Is this a good idea for this buff?

[oak yarrow]

One copy off ascended

[coarse nest]

Just clarifying for primo since I never used a unfinished abel

[toxic prawn]

Zol vei hae thane lyca
Brutus Merlin emi asolise rem

[coarse nest]

Whane burst could be one comp

[gilded salmon]

that burst is so overkill oh my

[lofty silo]

That’s the goal

[toxic prawn]

Just swap awalia Mulan

[lofty silo]

Maybe stall would be better than abelinda

[tranquil crane]

i personally think emi is going to be decent with abel

[lofty silo]

I’m curious what the meta will be, maybe more bursty?

[toxic prawn]

No, wouldn’t recommend unless it’s a bs 7t or a new region

[lofty silo]

Abelinda mythic might work if protected by alna

[coarse nest]

Another one could be Alna + gb + athalia I guess

[lime zinc]

It'll be the same as like LCT/LC/HoE

[coarse nest]

Wutus + Dims

etc.

[tranquil crane]

theoretically this debuff will slightly reward defense buffs, since everyone will be doing less damage

but its a pretty fractional difference

[obtuse mauve]

Ive done all safi trials with only 2 heroes, either Alna safi or Lucius safi

She ults a lot

[rich tree]

lucius wont be considered fodder anymore???

[toxic prawn]

Your serious too

[rich tree]

nah i only used him for grit swaps

[obtuse mauve]

It was the tank available

[rich tree]

ah

[obtuse mauve]

This means nothing though, just a fun fact

[trim ferry]

@gaunt marten waiting on you now

[gaunt marten]

oh my god help him

[trim ferry]

only you can save him

[gaunt marten]

[thin ermine]

i wanna si30 my trez~ not emblem choice chest left so im gonna have to push tower a lot when it refreshes....

[gaunt marten]

build he,,,,

the hims

[tranquil crane]

lmao poked my head into one of the public channels for the first time just outta curiosity

[spice finch]

don't

[tranquil crane]

i wish i could just leave the channel

[gaunt marten]

never go in there

except if emmers is in there 🥹

someone revive emmers i miss him a lot

[feral coral]

@versed sandal DONE

[gaunt marten]

good job!

[gaunt marten]

i only go in in game chat like once a month to see how long it takes before flaw shows up and tells me to stfu

usually like 10 minutes

[tranquil crane]

incredible

[trail swift]

uncredible

[native sundial]

Teams for TS ?

[tranquil crane]

I doubt you'd go wrong with alnabel and burst

[marble plinth]

What's everyone running for comps

[tranquil crane]

posted what I'll be testing day 1 here: #treasure-scramble message

lol my server's Arena. Kinda curious if I just happened to luck into a server with no real whale competition or if I scared the other whales into restarting on new servers

[olive moat]

Gaben can u give me permission to assume safiya is worse than Mae after a grand total 12 hrs of half-assed global testing

[tranquil crane]

gaben is afk, I'm giving you approval in their stead

[gaunt marten]

remember people thought mae was awtalene tier for like a whole month

because they were fucking stupid

[tranquil crane]

im still mad i saw that sentiment and skipped mae while her reward track was active

i missed out on like, easily ten whole dollars worth of free rewards, how will I ever recover

[marble plinth]

Gonna try this for 4t

[gaunt marten]

the exact same scenario is happening right now, mostly whales have awsafiya, a lot of ppl went w awthalia bc she was kinda overhyped, there isnt gonna be much testing bc of ae and ppl are only going to see whales using asaf and going to assume shes a whale only hero and then i am fucking betting you in 2 months shes going to be everywhere

[tranquil crane]

you might consider someone else for albedo, her SI doesnt do much here

[marble plinth]

Ohhh right ty

[tranquil crane]

you might also play around with grez on nev's team, since faction bonuses dont matter here you can go purely for skill synergy

im not a huge fan of grez in pvp without alna though, just from what I've seen as a newbie

does he actually stay alive in that comp?

i guess his passive anti-int stuff is decent either way

[marble plinth]

These formations just kind of autplaced so yea I'm not either

[tranquil crane]

fun fact, I didn't realize that skin was grez until this week

My whole time playing this game until just the other day I thought that was some niche hero I'd forgotten whenever I saw it

[marble plinth]

This is a brand new debuff right

[tranquil crane]

yes

[native sundial]

My Abel is M+ si30 .. would she do the job ?

[marble plinth]

That skin is so cool imo

[native sundial]

Thats my teams

[abstract storm]

We have the same first team, although my second team is just random strong heroes thrown together.

[tranquil crane]

emibel supremacy

[tranquil crane]

you should switch your emi and palmer positioning though unless you have them that way for a good reason

[marble plinth]

I'd love to run that team but I don't have palmer

[native sundial]

Can u guys help ?

[sterile zinc]

What path did everyone choose this time

[tranquil crane]

red

[marble plinth]

Red again

[native sundial]

I think i too blue

Took

[tranquil crane]

also make sure you dont use mae sp, it doesnt do anything in this debuff

[sterile zinc]

Considering if I wanna go back green..

[native sundial]

Why does it matter what u choose ?

[tranquil crane]

ditch albedo for someone else, her SI doesn't work here

she can still stall but you can likely do better with almost anyone else

i would hesitate to put rem on the frontline unless there's a good reason, in general

[gilded salmon]

You need to go green with me 😡

[tranquil crane]

generally speaking it doesnt for most people

[fringe light]

I took green

[native sundial]

😦

So considering my heroes how should i lineup ?

[gilded salmon]

you're the only other person in this server thats in r42 with me 😭

[native sundial]

We are on the same server ?? 😁 hehe nice

[gilded salmon]

not server, region

[abstract storm]

Have no good reason just placed them like that. Why do you recommend swapping them, though?

[native sundial]

Just gimme 4 teams plz ! I am@a noob

[tranquil crane]

some of Palmer's buffs have an AoE, emi doesn't care about being P4 skillwise as far as I recall

[abstract storm]

I'm using Badens, but I don't know if that would be better than Solise.

Understood, thanks.

Solise's SP wouldn't work with Daemia I think.

[native sundial]

@tranquil crane it seems you know a lot about TS .. can u plz tell me 4 comps considering my heros ?

[gilded salmon]

Just copy my teams

[olive moat]

Emi likes p4. She has a zone too. Palmer zone is better though, she takes a few seconds to cast hers, and being outside her zone you still get 50% of its benefits if emi is e30. Making sure she doesn't take Rowan pot is also more important

[sour jay]

@tranquil crane can you tell me 4 comps without considering my heros

[tranquil crane]

Yeah that's a really odd interaction I hadn't thought about

[native sundial]

I dont have your heroes bro i wish i had them

[tranquil crane]

I dunno how I forgot her zone T_T, doh

[tranquil crane]

dreaf stall, arcbound ravager aggro, exodia rush, and Stafford Gambit

[sour jay]

damn stafford gambit is pretty dubious though

[tranquil crane]

i mean, what kinda rating are you playing at

[sour jay]

at least give me the danish gambit, it's more fun

[tranquil crane]

no one can solidly refute it below like 2k

[sour jay]

like 1800 lichess, though I think I've only lost to the stafford once. If you know what's basically a book refutation you just get a pawn up, fairly dry position

[tranquil crane]

yeah I'd be curious how many folks know a book refutation at that rating though 😄

[sour jay]

tbh I study openings more than I play, I just enjoy it

[tranquil crane]

[sour jay]

then when I'm out of book I get lost