treasure-scramble

[little cairn]

here for your mood

[dapper lance]

ty sir

[gaunt jasper]

Thx! There are some debuffs inherent to the 3 paths right ? So do i pick diffrent comps in those 3 paths ?

[spice finch]

debuffs are not path related

[little cairn]

Debuff is the same

[spice finch]

they go into rotation for each season

[little cairn]

Different people in different paths tho

My region (37) blue feels safest

[dapper lance]

no, the meta changes based on region, rank, and debuff my bad

right now we are in ice, and that picture i sent you is specifically for ice for this specific cycle

with the release of heroes and with different debuff cycles, the "meta" will always change

there really isnt any perfect teams you can expect to steamroll with

usually at some point it becomes a questions of investment level holding all other variables consistent

oh the debuff isnt tied to path

i misunderstood your primary question

my bad

[little cairn]

[gaunt jasper]

Kk thanks guys thats already a lot more than i initially knew, got no clue about the pvp modes ^^ lastly is there any way of „knowing“ which path might be easier like a list of the top players or smthing ? Or is it just a feels thing ?

[dapper lance]

path literally doesnt matter except for top 20 players per region

[little cairn]

For me it was just testing each

[dapper lance]

it determines whom you fight for the first six rounds

[little cairn]

I had an easier time staying in top ranks early in blue

last round everybody is in the same path

Honestly idk why we have paths even

[dapper lance]

basically every cycle is divided into 7 rounds

first 6 rounds, the pool is same path
7th round, pool is entire region

[little cairn]

Yep

[gilded salmon]

who would make this list

[gaunt jasper]

Ok, thanks again, i will try out building some teams then lets see if i succeed 🫡

[dapper lance]

good luck

TS is my favorite mode

if i do bad i will literally quit

[little cairn]

Scrumble very good event

[dapper lance]

[little cairn]

I need to force myself to use formations more

At this point I'm torturing myself every new buff

[spice finch]

don't do that, who would give us good advice then?

[dapper lance]

im at the point where i just let it carry prior cycle teams lol

make small changes

[dapper lance]

[olive moat]

how would u even go about making this list . just pm every top player and ask which path they take

[dapper lance]

i barely give advice anymore lol

[little cairn]

Yeah idk for me it keeps like and old version of my teams every new cycle

[dapper lance]

just lots of opinions

[little cairn]

So every new ts I gotta update it

[dapper lance]

sir delete youre setting me up for ridicule

[little cairn]

Very commendable advice

[spice finch]

[trail swift]

are we pretending abrutus is bad now or sumtin

[little cairn]

[spice finch]

i never said anything

[dapper lance]

didnt have to delete

but thanks

[little cairn]

Restore the comment

[dapper lance]

[dapper lance]

abrutus pretty bad rn

probably jusy skewed opinion cuz of ice lol

he do be falling off in nc/cr tho

[little cairn]

Good thing I have not built him

[dapper lance]

prob not a good sign if brutus is a sub for something lol

[spice finch]

how did abrutus do for last burst/multi-hit? altho there was no awthalia for them

[olive moat]

everyone in their feelings cuz wutus ass in ice. but he kinda starting to fall off

[trail swift]

so is asolise and athane :q

i have zero ragerts for abootus

[gilded salmon]

glad i built baden 😎

[dapper lance]

brutus invade was consistent 60-65% in fire for me

same for forest now that im looking

[spice finch]

ahead of the curve 😎

[trail swift]

i think abrutus will end up in a better spot than athane athalia and even abel a year from now

[olive moat]

wutus will always have a niche bc of his cc

[trail swift]

yeh

[dapper lance]

that's a hot take

[trail swift]

cc never dies but power creep kills heroes who only bring dmg

[little cairn]

Well athane I agree on

He's already getting outperformed by athalia

[olive moat]

abel maybe a little hot. athalia unclear since she been out only 2 weeks. athane definitely agree

[dapper lance]

fair

been using rem as thane sub in nc lol

thane still a monster in TS tho

ngl

[little cairn]

abel is just crazy strong I don't think she will be powercrept any time soon

[spice finch]

yea, he does good even in ice (altho he needs palmer)

[trail swift]

i still regret going abel instead of athane :q

[dapper lance]

thats a hot take

[trail swift]

especially since i only got abel to M...whereas athane woulda ascended lol, since i had 4 copies

[little cairn]

That's a hot take

[olive moat]

non-kraken kinda gotta choose between athane and awthalia if they haven't built either

[dapper lance]

🤝

[trail swift]

well it's more that now my abel is gonna sit at mythic for 3 months lel

[spice finch]

do you regret asol first?

[little cairn]

[olive moat]

i built asol bc i wanted an asol merc for main. i kinda regret it because now it's giga-easy to find asol mercs but I couldn't get a hand of one athe time when I committed to building her. kinda wish I had saved for maetria bc I can't get a damn mae merc anywhere

[dapper lance]

i skipped thane but thats just copium for me lol

athalia i hope fills the same niche as thane

[trail swift]

lilith's 20% off thing is vry troll

[little cairn]

F2p can build half the awakened that comes out if they play optimally

[restive goblet]

I hope Whathalia is good in all the other CR rounds so I don’t regret not pulling for Maetria’s portrait

[gilded salmon]

its good that theyre making so many carry wokes cause they just replace each other instead of filling a new spot

[trail swift]

i wish i knew more when i started and pulled timblems from day1(of unlocking ToT)

[little cairn]

same mate

[dapper lance]

I think Maetria has been in every round so far for NC/CR

[trail swift]

i didn't start buying daily timblem til like 5 months in lol

[gilded salmon]

but I guess it sucks if you built the one getting replaced lol

[little cairn]

Yeah

first one I built was talene

That got replaced for baden

Off topic back to scrumble

[trail swift]

scrbl

[restive goblet]

Talking about awakened heroes is always relevant to scramble

[dapper lance]

I think so

[little cairn]

I'm not responsible for any killing by zap

[dapper lance]

Every single woke has been relevant to TS, but their effectiveness varies

[restive goblet]

Poor Aezizh lol

[dapper lance]

Ok

I stand corrected

[trail swift]

not counting ezizh/talene i think solise is weakest in ts

or is it baden

[restive goblet]

I think even in maetria comps Aezizh is only in like 1 or 2 rounds

[little cairn]

Baden has a lot of use

Currently my best performing woke

[restive goblet]

I haven’t seen any Aezizh at all this round I don’t think

[dapper lance]

solise needs specific comp to succeed otherwise no place in ts imo

[trail swift]

my best performing woke is..........emilia

[dapper lance]

nev solise cruke tarnos

[olive moat]

real

[dapper lance]

hella expensive

[little cairn]

About that maybe in a year

[dapper lance]

i just barely started cruke

[trail swift]

i just run some crap like mishka anasta asolise nevanthi astar

[dapper lance]

e+

[little cairn]

same

Got vei to do also

[trail swift]

or if abrutus invade takes anasta i just run whatever like haelus/vei

[restive goblet]

This probably depends on how kraken you are. I feel like Solise is almost always in the first 3 comps, even if it’s alongside another woke

[olive moat]

and u probably gonna end up stealing cruke from swolise to play them in mae instead lol

[restive goblet]

honestly Solise has been amazing in TS ever since she released

[trail swift]

she does best on multihit right

[terse heart]

Aezizh

[dapper lance]

thats fair and i probably will

but mae burst doing me ok in the absence of thane lol

[little cairn]

Useless haelus POG

[dapper lance]

same team, just mae

[little cairn]

[trail swift]

lel that name

[terse heart]

TRUE

Cosmetic hero

[little cairn]

Ice buff literally makes a lot of heroes invalid

[olive moat]

excuse me, he gives 15 leech life to abel, very very useful

[terse heart]

I still use abrutus on team 7 cause im not creative

[little cairn]

[terse heart]

[restive goblet]

Have you guys had any luck with mishka in this buff? I’ve had pretty hit and miss results. She can actually ult if her wolves get killed which is nice, but her shield being cancelled is pretty shit

[little cairn]

Well cc has uses but she is obviously weaker

I use her still just cause I have her invested

[dapper lance]

meh

[trail swift]

her e60 still has team heal and yeh cc..i use her because she's still tanky for asolise frontline

[restive goblet]

have you tried it with seal

[little cairn]

This would be 3% without vei

[trail swift]

basically that team ^ minus vei

[olive moat]

astar + mishka lol. u playing with 3 heroes on that squad

[dapper lance]

it was seal12 for 5days; souffle does better idk why

wr was consistently 30ish with seal

[restive goblet]

[dapper lance]

iono where else to put these two

[little cairn]

souffle lots of cc

let's vei and wolise pop off

[restive goblet]

Soufflé just makes ‘Resisted’ pop up a bunch of times

[dapper lance]

souffle ult slow for my tastes but the wr is tangible improvement so im going to leave it lol

[gilded salmon]

I'm using souffle for belinda

[restive goblet]

Soufflé ult is fast if you have ferael

[dapper lance]

[little cairn]

Rock raptor thingy

[gilded salmon]

I have alna with her though

[dapper lance]

scared to take ferael from brut gb

[little cairn]

Don't

Farael is op in ice

[terse heart]

Using my rock lizard for abelinda and have a huge 34% wr

[little cairn]

Rowan e80 diff

[gilded salmon]

I should try lion in belinda now that I have her front line

[terse heart]

Truee

[restive goblet]

I put soufflé on my Brutus Gb team and it literally procs every 10 seconds at least, usually the first time within a couple seconds of ferael screaming

but the winrate was bad lol

[dapper lance]

talis/rock/souffle/owl/seal/lion

[terse heart]

I would e80 belinda but who knows if that introduces any complications for AE

[trail swift]

i haven't used souffle much at all since he's just 6

[terse heart]

[dapper lance]

you almost had me convinced until your edit

[trail swift]

9 seems pretty big for him since it cc 2 heroes now

[little cairn]

The struggles of not having reso 9

[trail swift]

2 owls away from reso9 ayy

[dapper lance]

reso9 was the biggest improvement to TS rank

for me

[trail swift]

hope so

[dapper lance]

it is

it really is man

its yuge

[gilded salmon]

I need 2 more pets at 9 for it

[trail swift]

it hurts to pass on red chests cores etc for bait over and over and over :q

[little cairn]

Bait number 1 prio

[dapper lance]

get reso9

[little cairn]

after res 9 we need to go to 12

then 15

then 18

[dapper lance]

res12 not as big as res9

[gilded salmon]

after 12 you just go for key pets not reso, cause reso 15 sucks from what I've heard

[dapper lance]

but after 12, i think its better to target keystone pets for lv18

[olive moat]

any leviathan here knows if pets get reso past 18 or do u have to level them all individually? @dapper lance

[dapper lance]

why have i been pinged

[gilded salmon]

99% sure reso 18 is last

[spice finch]

singled out

[little cairn]

You mini kraken

[dapper lance]

im p sure its 18 reso last tho lmao

[little cairn]

[terse heart]

18 is last yes

[dapper lance]

nice

[little cairn]

Is that nice tho?

[dapper lance]

i mean if you get it lol

[little cairn]

[dapper lance]

thats a free full ship every time they release a new pet

and pfp

[little cairn]

Dw about it

[terse heart]

Aezizh is the only pfp I see

[dapper lance]

[little cairn]

Nothing weird about my pfp

[gilded salmon]

usually only people with really weird pfp would say that

[terse heart]

All the way from reso 9 to reso 18 and im still sitting in rank 10-20 in TS, cant break into top 10

Skill issue

[steady hill]

huge

[terse heart]

[little cairn]

Dw

[olive moat]

ship is kinda wadge if u have reso 18 tho. baits go way down in value after reso 18

[thorny tartan]

Spoken like a true kraken

[little cairn]

All that tells me is I can stop worrying about bait at reso 18

[terse heart]

But pet pfps, if youre into that sorta thing

[terse heart]

Reso 18 barely gets top 2% in CR, need 36 tbh

[little cairn]

Kraken realms

[steady hill]

based

[little cairn]

Stronk seal

[terse heart]

I assure you seal did 8x more dmg than anyone else on that team

[little cairn]

The true team for e80 thorans

[steady hill]

you can just slap seal and the team will be op

[little cairn]

Theowyn prob works there also

[terse heart]

Hi peach

Nice strawberry

[steady hill]

this isnt a strawberry

[terse heart]

Yes it is

[little cairn]

Looks the same to me

Same shape

[trail swift]

reminds me of a certain scene in a certain gameokbye

[obtuse mauve]

Will this work?

Would e+ og talene be better?

[dapper lance]

do you have that ghost lady

[obtuse mauve]

Ofc, e+ theowyn

[steady hill]

yea ig, as long they can survive for seal to ult

[little cairn]

Depends on seal lvl also

9 is minimum I believe for seal to be good

[obtuse mauve]

I've seen seal 8 deal 80m, but mine is 12

[little cairn]

Should be fine then

[trail swift]

should i take nevanthi to e30 even though i won't e60 her anytime soon (at least not until after vei+abel, neither are even ascended yet)?

also why does she have two primary dodge nodes

her e30 skill seems like a pretty damn good buff reading it

[sour jay]

treat your nevanthi

[trail swift]

:q

prolly should since i have asolise

was gonna wait for 9f but mehh

[sour jay]

allegedly with asol it's worth e60 neva but idk how it compares to vei

[dapper lance]

baden is a stronger justification for e60 nev imo

but im a hypocrite i dont have baden

[sour jay]

i don't have either, they're both ugly

[trail swift]

still asolise grez ...mishkalol

[dapper lance]

thats what im running lol

[trail swift]

i always pair nev with asolise in TS tho so pretty good invest but i'll prolly stop at e30 for a while, until she has 9f and some other heroes are done at least

[dapper lance]

[trail swift]

e60 is so expensive ,-,

[sour jay]

yeah I still haven't done one

maybe I'll do rem 👀

[gilded salmon]

idk what to engrave next

after linda of course

[sour jay]

tam tam

i have no idea what your box is anyway

but he cool

[gilded salmon]

im sure I have better things to engrave, hes on furn wl now though

I actually need shards more than I need cores rn

[gaunt marten]

Work to what kill your team faster

[fair rapids]

Hopefully this makes emi a tad better

[steady hill]

wow ur too late

[trim ferry]

that's his life story

[dapper lance]

you do you bbg

congrats

[fair rapids]

What ?

What did I do

Wrong

[fair rapids]

?

[dapper lance]

positivity against the two negative comments after your post

guess i shouldnt have said anything

[fair rapids]

No like why was there negative?

Did I fuck up?

[fair rapids]

Also thanks for the positivity

[spice finch]

sorry to tell you....

[fair rapids]

What

I'ma

[spice finch]

if you had done that earlier this round would have gone better for you

[fair rapids]

I did that at reset needed to do tower

It won't apply

Well I though I did big fuck up I'm ok with that

[trim ferry]

no you did the right thing

[spice finch]

people are just messing with you

[trim ferry]

bedo 30 is stronk

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

[fair rapids]

Thank God though I fucked it

[sour jay]

all dims just got removed from the game due to contracts, srry your +30 is wasted

[fair rapids]

[spice finch]

did you guys change anything for this round?

[fair rapids]

I did scarlet GB was not the play

[spice finch]

oh yea, you had that going for you

[sour jay]

my scarlet is suddenly doing well

[fair rapids]

Idk wth to do with Lucy tho

[sour jay]

even beat an Abelinda

[spice finch]

what are you running with scarlett?

[sour jay]

mishka estrilda like usual

and rowan/lyca

[spice finch]

oh, no rowan with abel?

[sour jay]

nah doesn't need

[fair rapids]

Show Abel?

[sour jay]

took it out and just put in brutus, didn't change wr at all

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

[sour jay]

that's niels abel

famous mathematician

[spice finch]

ok, joux idea made me change a lot of stuff, time to everything go bad

[sour jay]

lol I'm just sabatoging your wr

[fair rapids]

I'ma test some things aswell

Fuck you if it goes wrong

I can't use Brutus nvm

He in raku comp

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

Did you buy rem over emi? Or neither

[spice finch]

don't have neither, gonna exchange for both

[fair rapids]

Ah I see

[dapper lance]

rem

[fair rapids]

If I get JOA rn I could split off mishka into scarlet for T6

[spice finch]

what do you think of my bad teams?

[fair rapids]

Hmm idk Joan could be huge

[dapper lance]

tbh fine

the only real sus moment is t6 lol

[spice finch]

yea, i don't have much to work with but probably could build something better

[dapper lance]

im guessing bel is in front only because its ice and not because youre inting

[spice finch]

yea, she gets 90% wr

and actually worked better up front

[dapper lance]

nice nice

[fair rapids]

Celowz how's this sound

[spice finch]

what are you running mishka with?

[fair rapids]

Emi atm

[trim ferry]

t5/6/7 i feel like is always sketchy for a lot of people

t7 is super sketch for me in ice

[dapper lance]

t6 is when i climb lol

[spice finch]

yea, that could work, you have to decide if it's 1k diamonds worth

[dapper lance]

these people have janky splits

[spice finch]

i feel like my wr gets better even with sketchy teams for t6/t7

[fair rapids]

1k dias and I might have to exchange with chall coins

[spice finch]

i never touch teams 1~5

[dapper lance]

if youre gonna split make sure the original team scores similarly otherwise dont split

[spice finch]

so their wr goes up

[dapper lance]

pog

[dapper lance]

exactly

[fair rapids]

Is JOA worth it

[spice finch]

i feel like it's better to build junk for 6 and 7 than try to mix stuff to build 7 functional teams

[fair rapids]

We are getting another double lab right

[spice finch]

do you have 203?

[fair rapids]

I could 203 yes

[trim ferry]

t7 is terrifying for me always

[spice finch]

for burst my t7 had 2% wr

[trim ferry]

i stay t6 for all days except day 9/10

[olive moat]

Probably not worth. Ur what 2% rn? Going 2% -> 1% is reward increase of value ~2k diamonds. And that's assuming that joa alone can boost u up a whole bracket which she probably can't. Plus the lost value of having to use chally coins

[trim ferry]

day 9/10 i drop to 8-12 lol

terrifying

[spice finch]

is it just for ice or you drop that for every debuff?

[fair rapids]

I would get my diamonds back
Bec at this point T6-T7 are 0%

But yea probably not worth it

[trim ferry]

every debuff it happens. problem is the bigger whales have more units. they just don't know how to distribute properly until 7 team they actually do it better cause they have no choice

[fair rapids]

It would just let me move scarlet and mishka from T2 to T6

[trim ferry]

whereas my distribution is going to be shit since less invested heroes will come into play

[olive moat]

U would have to climb a full bracket to get your diamonds back. Do u really think joa alone would let u climb a full bracket. Really unlikely

[fair rapids]

• est buff idk even know if it enough

[fair rapids]

Probably right

Alright I'll just wait

Till after dim exchange

[trim ferry]

wait dragon

didn't you buy one of the dims?

[spice finch]

dragon has emi

[trim ferry]

oh

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

Yea T3 would be
Emi JOA bedo lorsan and could probably fille random BS and still maintain good WR

But idk if mishka est scarlet Rosa will get a decent WR for T6

It's big gamble and probably bad odds so I'ma be patient

[trim ferry]

i'll say this, from my experience in the beginning

stacking 5 teams to make sure they are high wr with impactful wins

is more important

i did throw random shit together 6/7 teams for a while, usually teen wr%

[fair rapids]

I have 5 teams with semi decent WR but if I don't split after 5 teams it's all 0%

[spice finch]

that holds true for every debuff except ice

[trim ferry]

also applies for ice

my first ice is where i broke into t100

t6/7 was throw random trash and pray

[spice finch]

the problem is having 5 working teams

[fair rapids]

I have epics for T6 & T7 if I don't split scarlet mishka

[spice finch]

scarlett shitting the bed is the big one

[fair rapids]

Idk wth to do with Lucy tho

[gaunt marten]

I legit don't understand why ice is so hard for ppl I guess it's bc I'm a gravebanger

I've always had a ton of built gb

[spice finch]

you have the green boys to back you up

[gaunt marten]

My sweet baby boys

[sour jay]

cause scarlet and luc suck and those are 2 early game carries

we don't have the big boys

[spice finch]

nnoitorra is running standard 5p for luc

[trim ferry]

you know what i'm going to say

and if you did what i was gonna say i would be fine

[fair rapids]

He has stronger Lucy then me

[spice finch]

yea, i think his might be e44

[fair rapids]

Yea mine almost has a star

I'ma wait for the 50 fights today to see what works

[gaunt marten]

Say it

[trim ferry]

build me trez

[gaunt marten]

Get bigger boys

[trim ferry]

[gaunt marten]

Bigger harder boys

[sour jay]

I've been looking for a big boy my whole life

[fair rapids]

Build me trez too

[trim ferry]

trez useless for you dragon boy

[gaunt marten]

I don't have thanetired here

[trim ferry]

at least i could utilize him almost

almost

[fair rapids]

Na trez will carry my GB raku with no raku

[trim ferry]

wokebus+rem carries me atm

[gaunt marten]

How this chat makes me feel when everyone wants me to buy them trez

[trim ferry]

is the mommy mae comic part of the silent blade?

[fair rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-emoji-meme-smiley-happy-gif-23672361

This should be you

[spice finch]

[trim ferry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/716766135596613634/1108513307436003398/IMG_0575.jpg

[gaunt marten]

No it's the last obsidian finch

Separate comic

[fair rapids]

Gabe reso 9

[trim ferry]

asking for too much

[fair rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-gif-25814996

[gaunt marten]

https://comics.inkr.com/title/2264-afk-arena-the-last-obsidian-finch/chapter/133065-chapter-0

[trim ferry]

oh.. maybe i'll read the comics for this game..

[gaunt marten]

Biting you

[fair rapids]

[trim ferry]

is the comics in chronological order?

[fair rapids]

^

[spice finch]

are the other ones in this website aswell?

[trim ferry]

or are they all individual stories for each "book"

i'm assuming most of the stories are linked

[gaunt marten]

The awakened comics are in order

[fair rapids]

Gear reso

[gaunt marten]

The silent blade is stand alone bc its a prequel to the events of the game

[trim ferry]

k

i'll give them a read when i get some time

but

talene mommy too

👀

[fair rapids]

Send link I'ma read tn

[trim ferry]

scroll up

and find them there

lol

[gaunt marten]

I think about him every day every day I love him

Baden makes me insane

Unwell even

[trim ferry]

the art really is really well done

[gaunt marten]

I prefer the style of tsb to the newer comic style

[trim ferry]

considering it looks like mostly pencil style

[gaunt marten]

https://comics.inkr.com/title/993-legends-of-esperia-the-silent-blade-afk-arena/chapter/53306-chapter-1

I love my boys

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1093269491829461032/trezbedparty.gif

[trim ferry]

tsb has more of an older comic feel

from the art

it looks like on quick glance

[gaunt marten]

It was from a year ago

[trim ferry]

i like it

i mean the style

[gaunt marten]

Before they were really doing a lot of comics and art outside the game

[trim ferry]

idk if you ever read old comics

[gaunt marten]

Oh yeah

I read a lot of comics

[trim ferry]

so like imagine like X-men apoc comic release art style

[gaunt marten]

I like the textures they use for it makes it looks kinda gritty

[trim ferry]

when psylocke came into play, looks similar haha

just made me think of that when i saw it

[gaunt marten]

I would sell a kidney for a gb centric comic in the style of the original sandman comics

[trim ferry]

never read the sandman comics, seen snippets of the art though. would probably be dope haha

[gaunt marten]

I'm locking you in a room w nothing but those comics

[trim ferry]

anywhere i can read them online?

on a phone

[gaunt marten]

I use desktop bc all the sites have annoying ads on mobile

[trim ferry]

dm me the one for the sandman comics

i'll give it a read tomorrow during some meeting time

[fair rapids]

@spice finch uh

Don't think I've seen her hit that dmg yet

[spice finch]

emi is broken

[fair rapids]

Si30 bedo was that big of a boost

Jk idk why she hit so high xD

[olive moat]

No jk about it the jump in dmg is bedo diff

Emi is giga broken anyway but she would do like half that without bedo si30

[fair rapids]

Hmm damn
Did not know it was that big

@thorny tartan what team are you using for Lucy

[spice finch]

i think he posted his teams wr after the round ended earlier

[fair rapids]

Hmm

Might look for them

[fair rapids]

I think I'ma have to do something like this

I just gotta test it and see

T7 is doomed

[dapper lance]

scabtsi

[fair rapids]

[spice finch]

41% wr, good start

[fair rapids]

[fair rapids]

Wth is that Brutus

[spice finch]

[fair rapids]

[olive moat]

40% winrate but my rank is going up make it make sense

[dapper lance]

everyone else is doing worse

[trail swift]

the positive point value of your 40% wins exceeds the negative point value of your 60% losses

there it makes sense

but i guess that's not the real answer because it's relative to other players, not having a positive number :q you could still go up even if you're in the negative on points, if the player above you does even worse 😛

[fair rapids]

Do you think aw ezizh can do better in T1 than fane? Idk who to slot there fera was there but got split off

[restive goblet]

Could try nara or athalia maybe?

since you’re using elite units anyway

[fair rapids]

Yea

Who to try first

[trail swift]

you could just stack another healer :Q

[lime zinc]

Probably won't make much diff either way because they're only E

[gilded salmon]

just need 1 more belinda copy now for ascended and I'll easily have the star too

If I get it before ts is over thats gonna be huge

[dawn tinsel]

Just remembered I’ve already been using Seal with my Wolise stall. Often it’s just the rest of the team carrying, but occasionally Seal damage is clutch, eg example in this screenshot. cc @obtuse mauve, @restive goblet and @granite mason since you were discussing this too.

Was trying to respond to this message…

[misty epoch]

Send help

I am drowning

[trail swift]

my lv6 seal often outdamaging team.. wtfux

he likes cc heavy enemy teams rite

[misty epoch]

No, he likes stall

[trail swift]

doesn't he get a lot of energy from your team being cc'd

look at this stupidity... watch their hp bars when he ults

[misty epoch]

[trail swift]

pretty big disruption too with that knockback

maybe i should put seal on one of my struggling teams lol

[fair rapids]

@spice finch how's the first 20 fights

[trail swift]

almost makes me wanna add seal to my first-to-12 list instead of owl

[trail swift]

i see athane lucy and lyca

tamrus?

[misty epoch]

Lvl 12 owl is meh

Big break point is 15

Entry level 3

[trail swift]

he's 2 copies from 9 for reso 9 but yehh idk

might do lion seal talismane for first to 12

once i hit reso9

owl is just rly good in general though and the levels still increase his stats

lv12 adds buff duration increase (and nerf for enemies) and cc to his timezone

[fair rapids]

I just tried every Lucy comp I could think of and that was my first comp

Every comp has got 30% or less

[trail swift]

my lucy only did good with emilia ;/

[uncut vapor]

Same >.>

[trail swift]

pretty meh even with alna now with standard cycle backline

[fair rapids]

Emilia did good Lucy was a good spectator

[trail swift]

yeh basically

[fair rapids]

I'll just run 5p it ended at 42 one day

But fuck

That will probably be t6

[trail swift]

lal

[feral coral]

@storm moth is cruke usable at 200 in TS

[storm moth]

i think he needs 300 min

[fair rapids]

How can you tell whane from pixels tho

I can see Lucy/Lyca but I could never tell that was whane xD

[trail swift]

look from further away ig

[lime zinc]

Easy to tell from colour

AwThane, Tam, Raine, Luc, Lyca
Right?

[feral coral]

[trail swift]

i was guessing raine too but wasn't sure :q

the others yeh

[indigo quail]

48

[misty epoch]

Is he usable at L+?

[lapis moth]

[bronze flax]

Rem OP no matter what lmao

top 18%, which isn't bad for off meta early game

[trail swift]

game pls just give me palmer furn or owl

so close to these big invests

[tender arch]

forgot to setup my 6 teams

only dropped to top 6% tho so we good

[thorny tartan]

I'll post teams at the end of the round again but it's basically 5 pull

Finally won against potato

[olive moat]

fake news

[trail swift]

this is balanced

i picked like the meh-est example and it’s still dumb

who designed this dude he ulted 1 single time lmao

[thin ermine]

anyone here who's good at forming teams? my old teams are whack this round and dont know where to go

i have a good pool of heroes

[thorny tartan]

@fair rapids t63

[thin ermine]

thx! lemme try em out...i dropped 2%+ this round so im trying to figure stuff out...

[trail swift]

bruh he’s on a noob region your accent is 10x better

you have 5 awks lol most people here won’t even know..you should just copy a whale

[thin ermine]

i found out newbee teams work well like really....i cant do 99% of whales teams lol....way too much of an overkill

[terse heart]

True those elites are terrifying

[trail swift]

blizzard is kinda weird for teams

[thin ermine]

i think so....this rounds effects are like such a killer...my typical formations all dropped like by 20% win rate

[trail swift]

no shields and nobody rly dying early is a huge change, bigger than the other TS modes

emilia is queen of blizzard if you have her

[thin ermine]

i dont have rem or emilia.....waiting for exchange as well...and not have abrut....makes it harder

[trail swift]

blizz is his worst ts so not a huge loss here

[gaunt marten]

Don't copy that baby ts teams

You have way nicer shit

What region are you

[thin ermine]

17

[gaunt marten]

I'll point you at a couple whales to copy hold on

[thin ermine]

thx!!!

[gaunt marten]

Yeah never copy new region baby shit

You will die

[thin ermine]

sometimes it works like magic....other times....lol

[trail swift]

m30 athalia too

[gaunt marten]

Copying new regions is a big no

[thin ermine]

thats pure luck...i didnt have much cards saved like 200+

[gaunt marten]

Especially in an ancient region like yours

[terse heart]

Copy gabes comp to slash your winrates in half

[gaunt marten]

Ferret tf are you in here for

[thin ermine]

maybe thats y i cant climb higher lol. the highest ive gotten is like 2.9%

[gaunt marten]

Stfu I'm t20

Yeah dude you have good shit

[terse heart]

Gabe im top 10

Youre bad

[gaunt marten]

You are pipe in cycle spoking yourself

[gaunt marten]

I can be bad for you

JXHSIXHSIDNSIDHS

Help

[terse heart]

[thin ermine]

im looking through reddit for guides....this round is annoying

[trail swift]

i know this meme

TS guides barely exist

[gaunt marten]

Stop looking at reddit guides

[trail swift]

there is that chinese(?) one tho

[gaunt marten]

Generally reddit shit for ts sucks

There's an OK Chinese one

[terse heart]

Belinda being the weak link as per usual

Terrible hero

[thin ermine]

yeah, a lot of digging, chinese stuff are good

[gaunt marten]

You need to look at what ppl in your region are doing

Bc each region is an ecosystem

I can't even copy shit from r30 or r35

[terse heart]

Until you realize people in your region are like, running shit like haelus

Mishka

Etc

[trail swift]

i’m not even use what that says or if it’s for blizzard lel

[gaunt marten]

I'm also running haelus in a team bc I don't have much better

[terse heart]

Well

[thin ermine]

yeah the region whale teams dont work for me since im missing like key heroes....no framton, tarnos, Aathelia, abrut, most of my newer dimensionals are weak too....

[trail swift]

assuming it is since it’s running ainz

[terse heart]

Id expect the top 10 accounts in my region to have some options gabe

[gaunt marten]

You don't need fram

[terse heart]

[thin ermine]

thx! lemme look through and try

[gaunt marten]

You don't need tarnos

Yeah that guide is weird hold on

It's also dated like

Months ago

So it's not going to be good for this cycle

This is why you don't just copy random guides

[trail swift]

i just saw it earlier from choerry lol. it’s way above my account tier :q

it has squiggly text so it’s trustworthy 🤓

[terse heart]

Im gonna be honest

[gaunt marten]

What are you using rn

[thin ermine]

it seems pretty solid thou

[terse heart]

I have no idea what feline pet does

[gaunt marten]

It sucks ass

Don't use it

[thin ermine]

i dont use feline. u need 18

[trail swift]

same i just heard he sucks and never looked lmao

[gaunt marten]

It sucks ass at 18

Don't use it

[terse heart]

Smh bro tryna assume my pets arent 18

[gaunt marten]

L pet

Fr

[thin ermine]

seal is a very nice one.....

[gaunt marten]

Whale chat rn

[terse heart]

Gabe kraken

[gaunt marten]

Do you have seal

[thin ermine]

yeah

[trail swift]

yes seal is stupid and this is lv6

[thin ermine]

i have all pets reso at 12

[gaunt marten]

Show me your teams rn I won't be mean I promise

[thin ermine]

not good but sure.

[terse heart]

When I first got seal 15 my CR score went up by 3%

[gaunt marten]

I can't just synthesize teams from staring at a box

Some ppl can

[trail swift]

damn

[gaunt marten]

Yeah seal 18 is stupid

It ults and everything's immediately dead

[thin ermine]

didnt change from previous round...

[terse heart]

Splish splash 3 trillion dmg

[gaunt marten]

Where is mae

[terse heart]

Tria

[gaunt marten]

Oh okay let's see

[terse heart]

Take out vei from that burst and winrate drops to 2%

[trail swift]

do you have Joan?

[thin ermine]

30900 reso gear

[trail swift]

oh i missed her in asolise team

her e30 is great btw

[olive moat]

didn't change from previous round

uh

[thin ermine]

yeah im waiting on some shards and will get there next...or maybe after Aathelia...depending on how quick i get copies

[terse heart]

... kek

[thin ermine]

i dont know how it comes up with auto teams, but i didnt set them this time yet...some im thinking theyre from last time

[trail swift]

idk how much joan is doing for your asolise team but she could probably add a good chunk of win% to dims. she’s kinda op

[gaunt marten]

Abaden over Lucy, backline asolise

Cruke mae then midback edwin and 2 other decent gb doesn't really matter and give them seal pet

I need my laptop I can't fucking scroll back and forth I'm dying here

[thin ermine]

lemme try em out. i have em swapped to these rn:

[gaunt marten]

Joan has glass bones and paper skin

[gaunt marten]

Only thing that happens in ice is she gets that dmg reduction so she can charge to the other side before she inevitably dies

Put gbs in mae or in baden

This is much better though

Mae wants seal pet

She will fucking kill everything

[thin ermine]

ill try i baden. ferael or hodgeki instead of mulan then?

[gaunt marten]

Ferael

[thin ermine]

will do

[gaunt marten]

Hodh is not pvp

[thin ermine]

could do oden

[gaunt marten]

Mulan before e60 in ts in your region will do fuck all in ice

[steady hill]

based

[gaunt marten]

Big trez

[gaunt marten]

Odens good too

[thin ermine]

my trez is 209.....ill do oden then

[gaunt marten]

Can put trez in mae

Mehira and khaz not doing shit there but dying and I don't think it's worth the hypo buff much

Frankly

[steady hill]

no urs is big

[gaunt marten]

[steady hill]

[terse heart]

Trez on his way to be absolutely useless without e60

[thin ermine]

ill swap khazard then. wait my mae team did 87% so maybe ill leave it

[steady hill]

i think zol is better than mehira

[terse heart]

yeah she haaaard carrying that one

highkey got like 2 or 3 cosmetic heroes there

[thin ermine]

im running zol in burst

[thin ermine]

probably lol

[steady hill]

do u have seal?

[gaunt marten]

What's important for mae is that you slot a decently high attack rating hero for her e60 so that she can chew them up when she resurrects and gains their stats

[thin ermine]

seal at lvl 13

[gaunt marten]

Seal in mae yeah I think is what I told them

[gaunt marten]

Zol muuuch better

[thin ermine]

yeap

[gaunt marten]

Mehira isn't doing shit

[terse heart]

cosmetic thoe

she got nice assets

[gaunt marten]

Lol

I'd leave zol where he is though

[thin ermine]

yeah...or else i cant run burst..

[gaunt marten]

Can do mae gb or just leave the hypo soup

[steady hill]

thoran cheese with seal

[gaunt marten]

Stop

[thin ermine]

i could swap khazard and mehira for high dmg hero like scarlet

[gaunt marten]

Doesn't need it for mae gb in ice

As long as he has at least 3f then he's just there to stall

He's supposed to die horribly

[terse heart]

wouldnt know since I perma benched him

[thin ermine]

maybe treznor and ferael then?

[terse heart]

[gaunt marten]

My trez doesn't die though and mae eats him for power

[gaunt marten]

Can try it if you want to be my guinea pig

[thin ermine]

or could put 309 desira and trez if its better

[steady hill]

mae suk

[thin ermine]

sure....i have couple rounds before calc

[thin ermine]

OP

[terse heart]

nice kelthur

[gaunt marten]

Mae doesn't need desira but desira could go in abaden if abaden is struggling

[steady hill]

thanks

[thin ermine]

noted. ill swap if needed

[steady hill]

f2p btw

[gaunt marten]

For abaden you either overheal him or perma cc ass slap the enemy quickly

So pick one

[thin ermine]

would cc work this round?

[gaunt marten]

I'm just kinda curious to see how mae gb does on smaller scale

[thin ermine]

i know burst depends on cc and it didnt do too well

[gaunt marten]

All that pvp is is trying to have more ty or more is

But in ice it's kinda weird

Plus new mage meta says fuck you die immediately

[thin ermine]

u think 30930 zaph is better or 209 tamrus for burst with athane?

[gaunt marten]

I don't run athane burst but Tam without engraving in your region sounds like a fuckinf awful time

[thin ermine]

ill try zaph first lol

[gaunt marten]

T100 is stacked

There's ppl w 309e80 a5 awakened in t80

[thin ermine]

holy smokes....i though my region is hard enough already....all top players run at least 5* 30960 if not e80/100

[gaunt marten]

I need awthalia to stop sucking nuts

Yeah your region is ass

[thin ermine]

im still not so sure about aw athelia...not liking em too much so far at m30

[gaunt marten]

Basically a lot of your problem w not being able to copy ppl is just try subbing stuff for things that do similar job

She doesn't work at m30

And it's her worst ts buff

Probably

[thin ermine]

yeah...seems like 30960 is a must....ugh

i do see top players running her thou

kinda regret building audrea over tarnos....oh well

[terse heart]

skill issue

[thin ermine]

thx for all the help. hopefully i get better results this time.

[gaunt marten]

Biting you

[gaunt marten]

Everyone runs new awakened though

She's not bad she's just pissing me off rn

[terse heart]

shiny new toy my brother

[terse heart]

fake news

[gaunt marten]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1093269491829461032/trezbedparty.gif

[little cairn]

scrumble Ezizh cant even be considered evil

he cant do shit

[terse heart]

My ezizh solos your entire box @gaunt marten

noob

[little cairn]

RC lvl 300+ his

[terse heart]

life isnt fair

and neither is AFK

[gaunt marten]

I can't find the crying awzizh

[terse heart]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/441477431501783062/1104693644121886760/BossBride_HD-atk3f.gif

[gaunt marten]

There's a new creepy looking boss in this patch too

[devout shore]

is new skin ?

[devout shore]

wow , what win rate with team ?

[terse heart]

awakened theowyn coming out in 2 weeks

[devout shore]

i think it new skin not new hero

[terse heart]

youre wrong

I'm right

nothing new here

[indigo quail]

New boss

Duskwaller

[storm moth]

he looks amazing wdym

[obtuse mauve]

"In this great future, you can't forget your past
So dry your tears, I say"

[fair rapids]

I hit 6 teams and it used my random teams instead of the ones I made

So nice WR I'm running similar just lower invested

[thorny tartan]

Sounds sus

[obtuse mauve]

If you climb to n+1 teams midway, it will use the n+1 teams you set before the scramble started, so always set both the current and next team sets before it starts if there's a chance you'll climb

[feral coral]

Why is Abel bad

[gaunt marten]

Old news that's been a new boss for a while

There's another new boss in patch

Not duskwailer

[indigo quail]

[gaunt marten]

New boss for rift or something

Maybe event

Looks creepy af

[granite mason]

seal 9

[steady hill]

based

[granite mason]

seal op

[gaunt marten]

Trez

Makes me so happy

[misty epoch]

Herro whel chat

[little cairn]

[cinder willow]

Is e60 Veith required or is e30 enough

For general use

[little cairn]

E30 is enough for use

E60 is a big buff tho

[cinder willow]

So worth the 4500?

I mean like options are anasta from e39 to 60, Mulan 60, Veith 60 rem, nevi

So many options so

[indigo quail]

Vei yes

e60 isnt a big boost, but better than others you mentioned

[cinder willow]

What about Eorin 60

I don’t have thane

[indigo quail]

Not a prio

Even hes a key for a cr boss, he can work at lower investment

[cinder willow]

He needs 9F right?

[indigo quail]

203 eorin can kill the boss but, the more investment the better he is

[cinder willow]

Thanks miss famous 🙏 will probably do Veith soon

[dawn tinsel]

Also r39, maybe that’s why it is working what are the important break points for seal?

[granite mason]

for CR its 15, idk about TS
Saw some 12 works too but tbh i dont know much about seal

[gaunt marten]

seal before 15 in ts in most regions seems ass

i see some ppl in newer regions using seal at 9 or 12

my seal was mid at 15 in ts then much better at 18

[obtuse mauve]

Seal 12 increased around 25% wr around rank 50 (55~45), in my region r37

I've tested it in 3 teams with similar results

[sour jay]

my atalene bullshit got 2%

2 more than I expected

[spice finch]

[sour jay]

idk what magic that other guy was using

[spice finch]

this round was a disaster

[lime zinc]

303 in my experience is the min for R4 kill with L AwSol (with awful time)
203 works with A AwSol

[lime zinc]

nice

[raven lark]

how is that 4% comp not working ❓

😭

t62 tho

dont care

[sour jay]

eorin too small

[lime zinc]

It's blue TS which is bad for Arthur, LDV and Eorin

Also LDV usually wants pos 4

[raven lark]

makes sense

idk what to do w my last random bs comps

[lime zinc]

[raven lark]

abel gets 90% without alna

prob not worth putting alna with abel

[storm moth]

this one?

[lime zinc]

My Raku team gained ~20% WR just by using Seal

[raven lark]

solise stall is acc op in ice

[lime zinc]

I'd be happy if my T6+7 could at least get 20%

[gaunt marten]

Yesssss

I wanna kiss it

[lime zinc]

which face though, there's 3

[gaunt marten]

Kees

[raven lark]

cant get more cursed than this

[lime zinc]

I think the winrate of luc cycle and eorin burst will be just barely 2 digits if you add them both together

[raven lark]

😂

probably

i need help

like what do i do with my alna

shes useless rn

[lime zinc]

I'd use Alna on Luc ig

[sour jay]

alna def loses some value in ice

[gaunt marten]

Scrumbke

[raven lark]

id run her w grez but raku gbs op

[gaunt marten]

Alna just emotional support for baden

[lime zinc]

I've never even tried Raku GBs but traditional AGB works well in blue

[obtuse mauve]

My t5 and t6, not that bad for 53th... I hope they get better at 7 teams

[raven lark]

i get 62% with raku gbs

r39

probably should take raku out for my 6th team tho

[storm moth]

[terse heart]

Saw that

[storm moth]

no you didnt

[terse heart]

What "things" were you talking about

[lime zinc]

In the old days I'd get 70-80% with AGB but that was in a diff meta

[lime zinc]

Probably low 40% at 7 teams, if you're really lucky maybe 50%

[obtuse mauve]

[gaunt marten]

What did this say

What did you edit

[terse heart]

hi

[gilded salmon]

😌

[spice finch]

congrats salsa, time to beat some people up in TS

[gilded salmon]

I have no furn but I'm sure it'll be fine lmao

[spice finch]

yea, 0f too and 90% wr, don't worry

[gilded salmon]

Final count was 503 for 11 copies, rates saved by 12 cards for last copy

[spice finch]

did you get lucky with sg?

[gilded salmon]

153, meh

[spice finch]

[gilded salmon]

shame this ts round already started

we will see how it does next round

[cinder willow]

im 7/15 copies on abel xd

[gilded salmon]

you got this

[cinder willow]

already 250 deep

[gilded salmon]

thats really good so far

[cinder willow]

4 off veith 1s too so veith is going first

so many heroes i need to finish ;o

[gilded salmon]

yeah I'm gonna be saving all diamonds and cards now for a while

[cinder willow]

im more missing my chests

so many heroes still need si30

merlin, rem, veith, abel are the first ones i need to get to si30 currently 23,20,22,29

[spice finch]

do you mix red chests and dim emblems for your dims?

[cinder willow]

not usually

havent yet

unless im like 15 chests off 30 then i dont

depends how beneficial it will be tbh

currently ive used chests for abel

space for merlin

celestial tokens for veith

20 chests off si30 abel