#treasure-scramble
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Ig it's either fire fatty on AwBrutus or blade on AwBaden to free up something for burst
I don't think he's usable at least without engraving
with all the recent power creep
doesn't work for me
Engraved orthos 
I also give fire fatty to brutus. Idk if thats best bet but thats where my fire fatty goes
I'd only use Orthos on AwThane at 7t if you need all the other stuff elsewhere
Whane lb always does good for me.
Since Vei is basically auto include for AwThane it's usually pretty easy to have a 2nd other frontline in Estri/Sonja or even Hendrick if you really have to
I think I even use Joan there for blue
also mulan p4 better probably 
I honeslty have worse luc with her in middle seems everyone puts belinda on the outside and noone runs scarlet anymore
Scarlet sucks
Pretty much lol
I mostly use mulan to cripple backline support
Isn't AwBel basically always pos2 for green
I guess ill tinker and see what happenes
Outside of green she usually isn't frontline with Alna
Decided to use fire fatty on AwBrutus then move Tali to GBs and Owl to burst
Also fk me I'm using luc cycle at 6T and it's gonna be smth like 20% wr

I could run AlnaLuc cycle but that'd tank my GB wr hard
And it's already not a great comp
fire fatty slightly reduces wutus wr but the benefit of using talis somewhere else when you need 4/5+ pets is often better
I can already see my wr of everything at 5/6T being terrible anyway
I could also try moth on GBs and leave tali on AwBrutus
moth/vesperio also reduce wr but you can try
Or vesperio yeah, my GB WR is pretty bad because my AwBaden is lacking 9f and e60
What's the go to pet for gbs? I currently just place them randomly 
Not even reso 6, but got tali and lion at 6
blue pets are usually better pre reso 9

I didn't expect tali 9 to do much but it's so damn good for trying to counter team
what comp can i make to replace the top one? im top 6% atm and that team is letting me down
raine prolly buffing haelus so no point in having her in yet
similarly haelus prob buffing alna
idk if M belinda will be useable in just 3 teams, maybe try again in 6 teams
would i need to substitute someone for rains or haelus? or do i need a new team entirely?
aight awesome what team would work? im two copies off ascending abelinda 😔🤟🏼
honestly no idea lol, could try cycle but I think it won't work well in burst
i’ve been so strictly pve i have no idea about the pvp metas
your comp is fine i think if belinda was high power, so idk how to make it work without that
might have to buy some time game tickets 😮💨
Could try 2 out of Palmer/Ezizh/Twins to replace the Haelus and Raine that don't work
Hard to say if M AwBel will ever work though
Implying I have animated trez pfp 🥹
Oh thought that said pfp
Why did that ping show up as recent when it was from yesterday
i’ll give it a go but i’m 1 copy off abelinda being ascended
should I change Lucretia!
you're about to get some spicy dms from gabe

Are you sure?
no remilia hythlo? or just a different team
Use emilia rem variant
With abrutus
That comp will go 90%
too bad hythlo is f2p so she won't have remilia
Yes, just didn’t swap 4 teams

Yep
I will guess your rank
There you go
You can look…
I can't slot raine
Haelus is more stronger than my abel
Hae will steal raine buff
😭
Wallet issues


Same difference
26th r39
t51
tried something a little different from last time
is raku ldv gonna get higher than 20% 
Which furniture do u strengthen 1st on wokes
Like 1 option is haste and pp the other option is cda and attack
Im guessing haste always 1st?
For the most part yes. Also it’s better to do 3 +1’s over 1 +3
Alright ty
i went emilia
201 thus far
tempted to try some dumb raku ldv emilia team in TS 🤓
is it me or does her 9f look kinda mid
Yeah 9f isn’t needed
99% of time it won’t be used, especially in pvp fights
that’s refreshing
Should I swap lyca in for anybody?
her e60 looks konda important to stop puck from dmging her team but idk
It’s good to get her completed but kinda a whale e60 tbh, the whole death damage thing isn’t her main use
Just get her to 303 and maybe e30 for the stats
She was killing it in ice round so maybe enough reason to overinvest, she’s seems good in ts overall
we need more lyca's who are like 95% as good at E as they are at 309e60 🤓
this comp lyca has been working really well in
Nice abaden burst
Palmer is still taking rowan pots
This is why i hate putting him there

What if lyca
Just max Abel. Problem solved

Raku burst is working like shit
Im gonna try something else tomorrow
yenn+ainz or yenn+asolise for non-aboobus dim team?
needs more emilia
It’s all blue’s fault
hello, remember me..? i finished chap 24, do you mind giving me any tips on TS because i dont see a guide in this channel..
Just copy whatever you see
problem being my only A is daimon so 
i dont even know how it works, but ill try
oh hi myu

So just put random bs and learn from experience
yeh thanks

Always check this channel cause f2ps like to post comps
or asking @lapis moth
Pass
@lapis moth ;-; i was told to ask u about TS
Only got awake brutus and solice
Where Mulan
Cant rank in 10% alr lol
Isnt your chapter backwards lol
He's pcapped at -51
I have you added lol

Oh yea makes sense
Whane is a lil bish 
also gib tips
im so low
burst in burst wasnt a good idea for some reason 
I had to scroll down for so long to find you 
yeah lmao
Who tf run talismane on athane

Also my owl is lv12 now
Next 12 is mane
Or seal
You need Lyca in burst sir, not Astar
i thought that dr would be better 
idk why
So mean to him
this abomination is not working that great either
That's a funny looking Zolly

The heart eyes is sus
Now I want to see it

Athane 85%
My boy is back


Need some help my teams are doing bad
This is too much lol
didn't we already tell you your scarlet needs mishka :q
she's doing nothing in lucy team ...... clearly 😛
charmizard
Yea you did but idk how to line them up
And where do I use rowan?
if you're gonna use rowan in that team he should be closer to lucy so she can get his energy pot
i use green pet on scarlet
Done
And do you have a zolrath build up because I wanna beat chapter 38 but I'm inpatient waiting for a friend to loan me 1
Put normal Brutus were astar is
Astar can then go team 4 where Hendrik is. He's too good to be used as fodder for lucy
So no hendrik team 4?
he's still mythic for me
41
region 38
I see
Oh wait your team 4 is at 70% wr. Then don't swap anything there. Leave it be
But still put Brutus for astar
Ok
So this will make my winrate better except for team 1 since that didn't change
Swap rowan with Brutus so that Lucy gets to touch the cart
Also check the combat rating on mishka vs scarlet. If mishkas rating is higher you need to either swap gear or replace raine
They are almost the same combat rating
And what you mean with this
You can give Scarlet arti and take Mishka's arti off
Artifacts don't work on treasure scrable right?
No, but they do affect combat rating
And why does that matter?
I need to climb towers to
Because you're using Raine, so you want to make sure Scarlet is getting Raine's buff and not Mishka
They don’t affect it in ts
Literally just swap their positions in that lineup. Rowan puts down a cart with healing and energy flasks so you want Lucy to have access to that cart. If he's that far away from her the other heroes will grab the flasks before Lucy can
Raine buffs the hero with the highest combat rating. You really want her to buff scarlet though. So in case mishka is higher rating raine would be buffing the wrong hero
Any improvements I can make 😅 almost everything I try seems to get slammed
Changing the artifact doesn’t do anything ffs
I think is just lack of investments
Yes they do
Not in ts my guy😂
Why don't you go and test it yourself before spreading nonsense here
I know it in fact works because I did it myself before 5* my Scarlet
Arti and gear do matter
Gear doesn't for ts. Everyone gets t4 iirc
Did you try 5 pull Lucy?
So what like they keep the artifact stats but don’t get the active effects?
Not true
Gear is applied to ts
Gear 100% matters
Yyp
If that’s true I’ve been fking up my ts game this whole time
Oh was it trift? My bad 
I think so idk tho


can ayone fix my team2 pls
Whale more
"f2p"
more f2p than myu
show vip

Same vip level
big whels 
try wutus gbs and alna with abel vs luc gbs with abel backline and see what works better
ty
Yea for this debuff early?
But you can run ezizh rowan raine palmer belinda
If your alna is occupied
Ofc it's more vulnerablr
You can replace palmer for haelus
ty
idk what to do with my gb box
so I decided to get heroes half-done so I can finish them when I need them lmao
yuu almost 3 built wokes

vip 12 yet?

almost? i have 0 tot cards

I had bad wokalene rng but swapped for waden so I was kinda happy about that
now I try getting him to M and start saving again from that point on haha
Not yet 
It’s more money then I though
I’ll get it this month forsure
Who tf touching me
me in my dreams


What’s that
afk2 
Is that really gonna be thing soon? I though people were joking 
No it's literally in beta rn
it's real
they dropped a new trailer this week and second beta started with no account wipe anymore
Wtf
looks bad ngl
Will you guys play it?
I will do daily stuff until it is more clear how successful and fun it is
I remember afk arena being really limited too at start
Yh i see
I want to throttle valen
I don’t know how I feel about wasting even more time on afk
and having a big s1 account for global modes is nice
I doubt the beta server will become a global one
It will probably become test server
yeah that would be nice
Hold up awk athalia confirmed?



I don’t follow much on news no
so to sum up
I wont push campaign hard or go super crazy on afk2. just getting dailies done to rip you all once you start playing it too from s500+ on hahaha
did you know trift got reworked


Where have u been
you know shemira isnt used anymore in campaign?
and lucius belinda isnt meta too
Real jojo golden wind vibes
Don't what
Its clear that's where they took the inspiration from
still bad execution if u wanna compare
I dont spend that much time on the server and when I do I turn into monkey brain bonk bonk so I don’t accounter too much official news
I play afk arena like this too
I tried to get dailies done in 2minutes
also did you hit cr
Approximately
%?
50% rn, will do it seriously tomorrow probably
mr hoe hoe when should I start gazing for veith
But Waden r1 is too much rng i don’t like it
show celehypos sir
what dmg can he get 
I got 70% with serious trying lmao
Max I got was 6b but firefly got 7.5b and I have big boi gabes Waden so I hope I can get the same amount of dmg
My dude you don't even know what I'm talking abt bc it's not even public
He has blade 12 tho
i got 6b 
It is comparable to other thing
with lvl 10 fire

Jojo design is just next level
Game takes ideas from other things
I got 7b with lvl9 fire fatty and 30353 AwBaden
I should maybe upgrade light tree
it is alright
Not saying it is equal to thing
For the skills at least

after haelus to 1* and twins to M/1* up to you

He is very big
ty
I feel bad reaper still requests him every week
That's hot


share gabes waden 
Rotate him
I think I got him once
I don't want to fucking work

I want to die
Has everyone touched your Baden gabe?
mine is free
Bro likes to play
I'll ask the wind to merc the stars
Got your hands on his horse
Apparently my trez is so big he fucks up trying to repeat clears
Cause he just
Wipes everything himself
yes I noticed
I hope he washes his hands after wiping everything
He wiped a tower stage on his own
Lmao
Yeah he does that
I still 3 star everything in beasts using him in every stage
Bc I'm stubborn
And he's actually pretty cracked in beasts voyage
Trez becomes kinda busted in random modes its funny
Like in BoB

mr hoe hoe
me
how good is a 200 queen for CR
wow it's hard to read the text
mid ngl
usable?
eeh
I copypasted the base from the dog one and just deleted the background to make it easier to fit Trez in 
I put her in furn wl today
Queen dies a lot when she's low invest
i mean she is usable
ah ok
but you have to try her and subs to see what works better
And she can't heal without furn (although her heals are pretty small anyway)
@storm moth Can I have your phoenix sir?
Not e60
talen? 
Yeah that one
@gaunt marten fixed background
👖
Lmao
sent

both
Sorry, I'm just horsing around
does palmer need t4
It gives him extra offensive stats so I guess why not?
probably not but I think the helm gave CDA?
you go for the tenacity piece or?
be careful with t4 palmer; CBR might interfere with raine/healus 
I read crit block rate and got really confused for a sec
ok so ill just keep him t3 i guess
Palmer's cmbr shouldn't be an issue if he isn't e60
is there any heroes you wanna avoid fully building up rating other than silas
my palmer is 20330 for now
Scrmbl 

we screprumeb
haelus is a tricky one cause you want his 309e60, meaning that any stars can kill you
yeah my haelus is done
palmer can be an issue too, def 9f but be a little wary of e60. I wouldn't +30 him
oh I've got full T4 on my Palmer 
He isn't higher cmbr than anyone that'd actually need it though
SI30 on palmer isnt prio right
yeah it's not like it's bad just something to be careful about
Palmer SI30 is really low prio
i don't think +30 palmer is needed
20930 right?
scrbdlq 
I haven't done the crit or atk on my Palmer yet
crit is big yeah? cause he shares his crit with his ult?
He shares CDA not crit
ah right
I've just got the CDA and MP because both scale his ult
The 3rd point in the crit node would give a little bit of haste though
I kinda wish we could unequip bits of engrave like we can for furn lol
18% is like 24b ish?
Yea
nvm dumb question
24.1b
gratz 

My R3 is scuffed because of my e60 Silas 
Only 2.6b

cr dorks 
It's weird how my AwBel round is worse than my R1 despite being a bigger AwBel than AwBaden (peak of 8b vs peak of 5b)
I'm going to try Astar over LDV in burst, it's going really badly either way
my r1 sucks 
Wasn't the kren wokeless ver not that bad?
im using abaden no kren
my kren is smol didnt even try probably shouldve done at least 1 though
I was doing alt #2
I was doing that one at first but I tried BIS and BIS order 2, with order 2 giving me the best dmg
oh my R2 is kinda scuffed because I need Mish for R4
Tnx everyone who helped me make my teams better I'm 8%now


What
Man gb without alna really dont want to work this buff it seems
I gave it palmer and it's doing ok
Anything I can do to make teams better ?
Wait a bit. 10 fights not really saying much yet
8% rn I don't like this de buff
Tbh this is the avrg % I can't get higher

Whane op
They're even randomly using Luc and Merlin 
I'm using Lucy and thane bec well it's all I had 😅
If one fails other wins 50% of the time

Star diff
ezizh > mortas confirmed
Ezizh seems more standard for green at least
does ezizh knock olgath out of the sky if he's already ulting?
i imagine it works like kren
Does he affect Zikis when ulting?
For some reason, I don't think he does but I never really fully checked - and if not, then he probably doesn't affect Olgath either because their ultimates seem to be considered the same in terms of untouchability? 
Hard to test so maybe someone else can do more precisely through friend list duels or something, but while aSolise's ultimate seems to have been cancelled, it looks like Olgath's wasn't in the fight against the Ezizh in the maritime?
Whale
All e60
Zikis olgath
It's Maritime so they're all 5* e60 as a base, it's not what I actually have.

Yeah - to reply to the question about Olgath's ultimate when against Ezizh as it's one of the fights against Ezizh that's always available, though not as good to test against compared to actual duels.
@sour jay swapping Grez and fera just made both teams worse 
Yeah I dont think team 2 really needs Raku. Swolise and Astar usually do most work
But raku comps by themselves dont really work according to the whales here so I just left him there 
why is nev in front 
... decisions had to be made okay 
okay 
I just didnt know what else to put there with grez gone 
baden 
So swap baden with fera if i were to keep these 2 teams? Might be worth a try 
raku still good when you're not in top 50/top 100 lol
whales can't do some stuff because their competition is too fierce
raku won't cut it when you're fighting a million maxed out wokes
Whats a typical raku pvp comp? Maybe I have stuff for it. But at the same time Id be missing sth for t2 again 
raku + ldv and the rest of the spots are basically the burst comp rejects. Or you can use lyca + zolrath and make it into your burst comp
daimon grez fera silas oden 
baden astar solise raku nev 
I used raku fera for the longest time before I got ldv
Basically just raku fera + frontline, worked fine for a while
also like raku in gbs
Yeah trying that for next round. If not I can always just go back to what I had 
ldv is nuts so hopefully you get it soon
ldv do be out there 
Wish dim exchange wasnt happening right now
Just sets progress back by so much
but Rem is good 
aren't you 🐳 just buy rem and then you don't need to spend any challenger on the exchange
didnt you buy one 
I did but I need dims from both lab and chall coins 

you should be able to get joan each month and still have enough lab coins for 1 exchange
and also just don't use challenger to exchange only1 dim
which one?
I might have also garrisoned bedo this month 

Yeah Joa
life is hard
no i mean which one did you buy of the two 
Mind helping :3
does emilia trigger raku's mark?
I modified the team but I’m not sure if it’s gonna work
Emilia is carrying my wutus low-invest dims and with that carrying my entire wr right now though 
i was just joshing 

sounds good 
t1 ok
t2 mishka estril astar scarlet numisu
t3 brutus lyca lucretia eironn safiya
t4 rowan tank rosaline abelinda palmer

okeii thank yaa
t2 it's the scarlet succ comp
she good at succ 
🤨



White again


no dont build for ts as a new player
focus campaign at least until 42
Estrilda doesnt need much building tho right? You get benefits immediately at +0 iirc 
yea
the 3f is for a lil spicy boost 18sec into fight
her base kit buffs and gives energy 
i see people with +30 strilda but I think that's for cr 👀
its def low prio
Yeah +30 you put her backline. Before she needs to stay front
Estrilda 3f kinda meh for TS too
Most fights are decided before it applies
But it's cheap and good in other modes
if scarlet is still alive 18seconds into the fight you better be winning 
Estrilda is usable in TS even in pretty late game?
yes
makes scarlet comp better when belinda steals all the good energy supports


🪠

I'm t14 and use her still
🍆 

We're gonna get muted lmao


just talking about scarlet it's relevant to the discussion
scarlet keeps getting leftovers lol
I don't think I'm getting t100 this season
she's down to numisu 
Now my priority left Raine and Rosa.. could make them ascended after one or two copies. Btw my Estrilda is ready tho. Or wait for Raine and Rosa copy first
idk who to even put in pos3 for her lol
is numisu lyca good for scarlett?
lyca yes for sure, numisu is what you use when you need to take away her ideal supports for other teams
they all would be with abel
yeah basically
scarlet benefits from opening haste
it used to be lyca but lyca is used for burst
numisa not as good of a haste provider but his totems gives scarlet energy via energy drain
i wonder if some madman has tested peggy
https://i.imgur.com/B6HyKU7.png i'm running this atm
Actually what’s scarlet succu
are you talking to me?
yeah
my peggy is 000 
build peggy just to try this 1 team for me once
I need 150 more cores for e60 mishka 
im gonna ready peggy's kit at least 
literally all I know about it is that she summons guards
presumably would be scarlet succ target
I think it happens too late
aren't there some at the start?
¯_(ツ)_/¯
are they targetabble? 
bob uses peggy with wutus in whatever debuff removes shields, because the minions can still be shielded
thats genius
oh they do come out at the start yeah
ok fuck it i'll try for t6 lmao
wait good point
lmk how it works
let me re-read skills 
and don't blame me if it sucks instead of succs
wait im testing if peggy has guards at start lol

she has, i just tested
at 000 
trust but verify 
oh yea, i used the trials, so i'm not sure if it works with 000
Gais what’s scarlet succ
noooo its gone
read her ability, she steals energy from ppl
it's in portraits
Succ stands for?
suck


but it sounds better
Okeii
Draining energy
numisu + mishka should be enough for her to ult immediately after her first succ
bro youre a genius
I don’t think you need more
I sometimes use Peggy Scarlet in fac tower for energy + knockback vs dive
I NEED BAIT
Same
i need everything
no i need it more
I'm close to rock 9 then I can start pulling for abelinda
Or I could spice it I guess
how did it go
i'm glad you're bait hoeing now salsa

What’s ideal Lucy invade team?
Should I spend all my temporal chests on bait
always bait from chests
I have 2800 bait worth

it worked 
the one with abel and without lucy
Lucy invade is a campaign thing and depends on dual divinity
are you trying it then? 
Ah I see
😮
im trying in arena rn; henry brought up a good point she might be doing too much succ lol

if numisu and mishka all she needs
what happens if she succ too much?
its opportunity cost
free up mishka for another comp with peggy 
if she doesnt need the energy, some other support can go in
makes sense
ur not wrong
Rip eorin
idk mishka still good for scarlet
but maybe scarlet ults and kills everyone before mishka does anything who knows
Mishka stun helps Scarlet not insta die
the first hit stun?
Stuns with 9f, heals/shields with e60
I need haleus in my belinda team or it performa like shit. Who should i sub In 5th spot. Estrilda, hendrik (ill swap palmer and thane), joan or any other choice?
@spice finch henry was right its too much succ lmao
with or without peggy, scarlet consistently ults at 1:26
no artifacts tested 
I will build peggy and find a way to reasonably put her in scarlet
and nobody can stop me
how much investment does peggy need
also tested numi+peggy no mishka
didnt work as planned 
if you find a way of running her without mishka
nobody really uses her outside of tower so 000 is what she needs lol
scarlet succe before the guards come in
You should ask Mugu if needs opinion about Peggy lmao
sadge
extremely sus sentence without context 


Should add me I only have her at L
(jk)
all your heros die before peggy even comes out with that level deficit
Ah right

hendrik sounds good tbh
you have sonja in there too
og thane comp 
no middleground with the teams i'm running
https://i.imgur.com/RTuKG5I.png
ts giveth
ts taketh
now it's just taking but i'm getting used to it

Tamrus if he’s built
Is there any random subs that can work there aswell, i have cruke, wilders and yen sitting currently
tam sounds good 
My tam is 303e30
Missing some furn yet
Ill be getting 3 more furn tomorrow
But will still be short some
@thorny tartan here more than 10 fights
brutus gb is working really well 
That's about it and wutus and even suppose to be with GB 
I mean its just Belinda underperforming a bit. The rest is doing fine
My gbs are at 27% rn 
50-60% not fine 😅
having a comp around 50% isn't that bad
are you higher ranked than before?
But indonto have burst for this de buff so idc that much I just want my rank plate

Can't wait for ice debuff
what's favored in ice debuff?

Yeah but it will always end up closer to 50% once you hit "your" rank as in people at the same level as you. Basically trading wins and losses. If your teams were all at 60+ youd be constantly going up
True
But I'm worried Bec I'm only 4 teams 😅
Last time I was 4 teams I was 4-2%
And slowly declined more and more after t4

Rather slip a few 💵

Yea I'll have to split it but then I'm scared it's all gonna fall apart 
If I can pull Tamraus then I can split Lucy invade and whane burst
hope the people you're facing run into the same problems 
Not in r44
Not sure if tamrus at E/E+ will help. He might literally just run in and die giving you the disadvantage from the buff
He dies mid air 
Prob is 5p ain't working so idk
i would have never thought of that 
No someone else here mentioned it and I just remembered 
you're probably better off running luc cheese than luc 5p
Just 5 hypo and lucy
at least, at your rank
luc 5p has sometimes eironn dying before pulling and ruining everything
worth trying at least
What exactly is Lucy 🧀
lucy + 4 hypo yeah
Kk
Imagine having 4 hypos. Couldnt be me
My hypo kina lack
try mortas, mezoth, mehira if you have
Only have 5
what are you running joux?
Something like that joux
yeah you can try it
Alr
M luc is just not really good enough
It will help me split whane off
but maybe you can beat up some ppl who can't even build a 4th team
😅
what goes in raku ldv
raku and ldv
yes
rn running astar wutus and numi for the haste buff
this will be my t6 https://i.imgur.com/G15TUD8.png
i love rem
either gets 1 shot and I lose, or gets to ult and 1 shots everything
no other outcome
I'm buying her tbh she will carry a round by herself from what I've seen
i found out earlier today that i will be able to exchange for both without spending, so i'll only get to use them by the end of exchange 
So does emilia tbf
i have no idea what to do for t6 tho. raku ldv, gbs, scarlet, dims, luc are 5.
maybe I split gbs in 2
do some abel if you haeve a copy
or athane
Yea idk which is better at lower investment but rem can be 203e30 when I get her
no thane. when next awk comes I pull for abel
Resetting store for cores. Yay or nay? 
200 emi or 203 rem better? For TS
for dias?
Yeah
expensive 
Where else do people get them from?
Nobel and rift
Also completing celle and hypo tower
yea, you can get a lot by climbing both towers
I have 3 hypos and only trash celes 
vei saves the day eventually (sorta)
atalene helped a bit with celes tower, but not much
pray for lucretia tier cele carry
New woke trial prob gonna be nice to push with
Catch it at the end of reset and clear 120 floors ez
Oh turns out I outleveled the cele tower. Guess I can do some floors again
if she's good, maybe it's possible to hit powercap
Depending on how good she is
you only get +20 floors from it, so i think max is 80
it's +20 every time it opens?
Yeah
Ah rip
So first day clear 60 floor, closed next day, day 3 another 20
Yea max 80 then
My raku LDV team is doing slightly better once I took out raku. I’ll try taking out LDV next 

Ldv one shot scarlet with cannon 
that cannon is nuts
What am I even looking at 
looks like some kraken thoran cheese
E60 Thoran and M+ Mortas is really weird to look at
thoran cheesing treasure scramble 
It impossible to cheese in treasure scrable
i guarantee you someone has lost to thoran ult in treasure scramble










