#treasure-scramble
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cycle is bootyass
Understood, i’ll play around, thanks
Take his advice. He’s more knowledgeable
i dont know poor people shit very well
Same
i actually made an alt the other day just so i can f2p ts
and figure out how it works for f2p
I had three 5* awakened before most people had 1 when TS came out
I was easily top 20 back then
Can’t wait to see the results of your new incoming wisdom. Keep us poor people updated 😂
Now everyone has awakened and I’m struggling for too 100
god please dont gas me up or someone from taverns will come in here and yell at me
for thinking i know anything
Scarlet burst
here a poor person is helping you

ilu salsa
What is taverns
my little lab slave
a bad place

Does Scarlet not benefit from Rowan in ts or is he used elsewhere?

Do I not have access because I’m white named
i gave up my access on purpose
Scarlet gets full energy without rowan
saved my sanity
Hmm I see
speed is more important w scarlet
I’ll always be white name because white >
rowans kinda shit for ts
Man wish I could test around more without having to wait for scrumble
It scrumbled like 4 hours ago. Will it just take team changes right now?
no you gotta wait for a new round for changes to happen
Yeah thats what I meant. No testing until early morning lol
hey im about to be really mean really quick hold on

@proven hearth AHAHAHAHAHHAHA
get dreaf'd on
thadenevtrez and their dreaf baby only slightly worse than mae
mae sucks
clearly

Is there a f2p substitute for team 2?
yes its called delete app

ppl who tryhard for perfect 100% wr day one are so cringe why do that when it doesnt fucking matter just put in dreaf
so much better
Dreaf too expensive 
clearly
I don't have a fat dreaf, so I'm testing stuff. 2% right now. Bad tests
I just want to see myself getting high ranks day 1 cause thats the only time I ever will 
And then day 2 I start testing
I didn’t update for baelinda lol. Payden and neva failure
what the fuck are those teams
Who is this Artemis you speak of?
stop chaning your name every day you arent ramb
I’ve had this one for at least a week now
Yes I have…
11 days actually. April 2nd
No, don’t do that. State testing does not need to restart
No, it's may already in my time zone
in your what
My what?
i dont need it to be almost a year since i made gravebangers 🥹
wtf what did they do to the holding back tears emote on desktop
biting you
i do once in a blue moon when im supposed to be writing
Me and Hythlo need it to be September asap 
and im dicking around in here instead
Writing is a stressful task
October 15th 
not really i am possessed by god and he grabs me by the scalp and i black out and theres words on the screen
oh lol woops
Haven’t bought it yet though

wtf is in september
I preordered mine still no confirmation, very scared
That’s sounds stressful
concert
Did you use your pop ticket? Or go with ga?

both
watch the world burn 
thats so cute
YES

I see no lurking Zapping Zappy
zappy was in guild chat a minute ago
I was worried they’d only open for the msq and la shows. So excited
And you told him to come here?
nothing fucking cool comes to san diego meanwhile my sibling saw new order a few weeks ago
I got GA for myself and redeemed the pop wonder for my sister and dad who wanted to go too
Ah, makes sense

How to make dims work with no yen help
simply die
🙃
wheres mulan
4f
JoA and Ezio are the yen replacements
san diego sucks get me out of here
I'm being a red chest hoe right now

uh to get murked?


of all places
i mean no shit but also its boring and like the 3rd most expensive city in the us
6$ butter
7$ eggs
get me out of here
$7 eggs, insane
Why? So you can whale more in afk?
Still have 1 more month of garrisoning Ainz 
i found some for 3.75 yesterday i just about screamed such a loud scrum
yes
Gabe is now f2p. So more simps. For now
JoA isn’t a garrison though
i have a new rule where i dont use any dead dad money for stupid shit like afk whaling i only use money i make from working
Yeah I have her
i spend less thant 200 a month now
actually not too hard to keep up w ts to hold my rank
cause i can get new pets to 18 in 2-3 weeks
Nobles only is where I’m at. And the occasional event item/pass
monthly and event pass only for me
and i get any new awakened to 309e60 in a weekish
monthly and a few event things rn
What your furn income from? That’s my only shortcoming. I can get 3f pretty fast but 9f takes a bit
nc?
only thing i would ever whale is if they add whurral which they just did edwin so gonna be another fucking 7 months ig
oh furn is hell
late game furn sounds annoying
im just sitting here fuming staring at my red cards and staring at nevs 23f
its nice now when I need every single slot on my wl
its kinda funny how whaling just keeps your account going even when you stop bc i just had 1100 cores appear in my box yesterday no clue where or how or why
so i maxed athane
Late game furn isn’t any different. You can’t quite keep up without spending extra. Current short crassio, rem, and Emilia’s 9f
so hes done now
Nobles?
Interesting
i put them there
GABE! What did you do?
NOTHING
lol my gf compared San Diego to “[the city we live in], but cleaner”
why yell atg my me
when we went to go see the leopard sharks last year
Now Zappy is here 
Galveston?
i have seen literal dead people on the side walk here
It’s another city in socal, so 

okay galveston possibly worse
Depends where you are. Gas lamp definitely isn’t clean lol
Galveston is gross
i love galveston though spent a lot of time there as a teen doing sailing
i used to be a sailing instructor
what would be the worst place to live in AFK land
I actually really like the area I live in but the greater metro area sucks
I don’t see the hype of San Diego. I’d prefer LA. But I’m settling in Las Vegas for now
like i bet mardi gras in rustport fucking slaps but also you will get mugged and stabbed
i mean its beautiful here...if you have the time and money to see any of it
the leopard sharks were shy when I went snorkeling 
Mardi in New Orleans is something else
i love new orleans
My dream would be to live in Manhattan but I don’t make enough to live there and enjoy life
Absolutely my favorite. I love crowds and noise
It gives me energy
I lived in Portland which is still considered a big city but they move so slow. It drained me
no theyre reading my thoughts and stealing my memories
portland sounds nice but also expensive
and catches on fire constnalty now
You have to not mind the rain
Cheaper than any other big city
born and raised in houston i dont even notice rain
9 months of gloom, fog, and rain
I’ve lived in CA my whole life so rain terrifies me
and green plants fascinate me
LMAO youre the motherfuckers that almost run me over when its sprinkling and im just trying to fucking walk to work
driving like youre the aliens from signs and the water will fucking kill you

earthquakes still freak me the fuck out
After the first rain of the year the roads legit turn into a slurry of motor oil, dust, pollen, and water that’s slippery af
there was a 5.0 the other week
its flooding a lot and destroying the roads, causing sinkholes
ugh that looks so nice
One more
i just cant deal w the wildfires i couldnt handle losing everything in minutes i have several pigeon fancier friends up there that lost their whole loft birds included in mere minutes the other year
Wild fires aren’t reaching the cities
looks cool
Then rip 🪦
My aunt/uncle live in this little cottage in the middle of nowhere west of Salem and it’s wild visiting them. I feel like I’m walking into a storybook or something
the wildflowers are blooming here and the mountains look like impressionist paintings its insane
my health is kinda shit to go hiking though
so i just look at it from the train
Oh very nice. Very beautiful sights to see in Oregon
Went swimming here. Abiqua falls
im always the reason this chat becomes offtopic
ahhhhh i love it
have you been to austin
you might like it
Hi 🥚 Long time no see 
No I only visited the university in San Antonio
Hello 👋🏻
I’ve been to like three different waterfalls in socal and they all were just tiny little trickles 
san antonio is boring
Maybe I should take a trip to Texas this year
Alltrails lied to me 
austin has barton springs, and all these cave systems
you can go swim and dive in the springs the water is like crystal clear
There’s a trail called Silver Falls. 10 water falls
the ecosystem is like nowhere else theres a blind salamander that lives there that theres like, only a few dozen of
That sounds great
Google Barton springs and I’ll get info on visiting ?
There hot springs in Las Vegas but you have to hike far
these are aquifer springs
Is 4th of July week a good time to visit Texas
gonna be hot but there will be a hell of a lot of good bbq
not me getting homesick in the scrumble chat
🥹
how am i already close to 4 teams
i hate whale scurmbe
wait im not on 3 teams yet
im being insane
Dreaf is addicting huh
but whale scrumble you hit 4 teams so fucking fast
im still t12
w dreaf
fucking crying
Can I please have a refund
LMAO
Pets?
-100k diamonds
He has lvl 6 owl and I have lvl 9 rock clown lizard

Zol bypassed his immunity, maybe?
trezs dismounted immunity ate zols execute i think
i dont think you can bypass his dismounted immunity
ive never seen him die during that
My Belinda hates me
zol rewound lmao first fight trez mopped the floor with them after dismount ulting when my athane died
really entertaining replays in this buff
first part of that both athanes killed each other on their own wind veils
just absolute clownery
raine or haelus here?
do they both target Palmer?
no, bel highest cbr
jfc the dims are here
raine or healus 
Haelus
No worries dude 
I literally have no idea on what pets to use

im using souffle with bel
o dang
Moth for Whane
She ults immediately and starts continuously spamming ice needles that do aoe damage and freeze people
pretty good 
Region 8, rank 13 Harming - if you want to look at replays
Another hero to backlog, great 
The damage might not be good in other buffs
but she seems nuts in this one at least
She also replaces Kalene in CR now
Emilia or Rem, I can't fucking tell 
One of them
Poor Kalene builders
I looked at every replay. In that comp, She dies fast from Thane and Solise wins match every time
Whane needs more support then, at that rank I suppose he's struggling without proper team built around him
But if Swolise is main dps than the pet is fine
Solise main dps only against thane
im not fully sold on moth for thane burst anyways
T20 bracket is out of my reach, so I feel like I am not qualified enough 
weird
im not seeing the dims in my region yet thank fuck
@dusk tundra Do you have moth 12?
It was kinda predictable from her skills, but still amazing
9
9 probably still too weak idk
winged for abaden, talis for abrutus
What is that dims name
the anime girls
Emilia the ice girl that loves volcano
literally gun to my head rn i cannot remember their names
im not seeing them in replays rn
Emilia the Awakened Killer
abaden wants winged, solise can have owl, brutus talis
What pet for AThane burst
Some of the krakens in my region are using Brutus Merlin Albedo Mulan Rem
Tarnos and Orthros effective ?
not in my region tho
weird comp
could try and see
all of those are possible options for solise comp
Who would be better to go with solise? I just threw them in there
the base of the stew is nev solise cruke
then its flex from there
tarnos obvious good choice
owl good pet bc of summons and enemies being grouped
Who else would be good to use? Maybe replace Orthros
Abaden, talene, mishka, alna, astar or ferael
or frontline tarnos backline flank ferael
ferael kinda busted in this debuff
he killsteals like crazy
Oh you can put Palmer in Solise also
i love whale ts
Too many options
why is my rank going up
😫
Oof.. Guess that's where it ends 
My next and last e80s
i have a little pet theory that the floor you hit on the 2nd round of 2nd day is close to where 1st calculation will be
so hot
Because I refuse to e80 Talene
zol is crashing the awakened party
lmao
i want to e80 mae
shes fucking busted
its like having a 2nd abel
I would e80 Mae if I had her
I don’t want to e80 Belinda because I already have LB Thane
Soon he will be complete
my mae team is all reasonable invests
i think its a good indicator of her being busted
Him too
A little behind
Nice max thane 🤩
Joyful
oh no.. 
lolol
I quit after Solise was released but I had to hang around for Baden to complete the awakened cycle
badens so hot
I e80 him just for you
for my me???

they need to have another emote contest so that all my servers emotes will just end up in here too
Now I’m left with this
lmao
E60 to e80 is only 6k cores. I thought it was 7.5k
New pet coming out soon?
Oh lol I’m just used to seeing multiple pets in merchant
This ceiling seems like a weird system. Is there really not a single player left whos at least equal to me? Everyone I match now has last rounds plates etc 
gabe gabe gabe
whatr
im ch44 are you happy
thanks
Its my 2nd round after unlocking it
Ice cream monster released with like 2 weeks left in moth’s ship. So maybe the patch after next?
not uncommon for ppl to still have last seasons plates
most ppl who take ts seriously do
I mean yeah it was just meant as a measurement of what kind of players I am meeting instead of equally equipped 
Oh yeah the ranks seem a bit fucky. Gained 8 points and jumped from 14% to 10% 
thats just day 1
it stabilizes at 4 teams
:naruhodo:
Gimme my own emotes back.. What am I paying nitro for..
lmao fr
im almost hero role is that the one that lets me use outside emotes in whatever channel\
if so ill take it
ill just mute taverns

No
nibbling you softly
No one can use outside emotes in channels other than taverns
Ok thanks
not even you

nope

i just remembered the fucked up trez emote where its jus this eye and im fucking laughig
how about mei
i cant evne use treznap here
admins can
whats the fucking point of life
scramble
why r u trying to blind us 

What's a treznap?
the only emote that matters besides trezbedparty
and maidenless
There's treznap
oh no i hit 3 teams
funs over
no dreaf my rank is 14 now
Cute 
from old gen area on tumblr and twitter i love their trez art
i need like 10 trez emotes on this server
Does discord not allow us to resize how the images display because of emotes?
it’s kind of annoying
dont care you get full size treznap
i can make him smaller i dont want to
simply perish
Rude
biting you

come closer
why are you scared
is it the dreaf
wait wheres my pfp flair on desktop
i dont have the flowers

So I finished the 50 fights for current scrumble without hitting 3T. If I were to hit the threshold before finishing all 50 next fights I still stay on 2T until the following scrumble right?
Hope it helps someone here too
Pretty sure as soon as you hit the threshold you start fighting other people at the same number of teams
As long as all 50 fights aren’t done
Ah okay thanks
Yeah can kind of screw you over depending on who you get matched with

poseidon whel
3% feelsbadman
I think abrutus dims is just garbage unless everyone is e60+
ezio is garbage not abrutus
Don’t really do much better with Yen or whoever
Dims need yen or Mulan, or the new ones, probably
Rank 97 
yen/mulan/rem/astar/wolise is much better than JoA + Ezio
Yeah I’ll try one of those. Just missing one furn from Mulan
Also take albedo to backline, or she's the first to die and you lose dim buff

Pretty neat. You could put in a marker for when the daily reset is and then people could mentally adjust it to their own time zone a little easier.
Hythlo is Artemis, Artemis is Hythlo. You are one. We are one.
Now gib me your account.
Thank you fellow skrumplekin
If you hit the points to go to the next team bracket you will go to the next one even if you're in the middle of the round, could be on battle 2 or battle 49 doesn't matter it will change to next teams
Alright thanks
But also that means if you get spanked hard and lose too many points just as you pop into the next team bracket you'll get yeeted back to the previous one
Happens to me in whale bracket lol cause I pop into like 4 teams then get spanked by krakens, fall into 3 teams, win a bit against smaller whales, then jump back to 4 teams
It's pretty funny
This is why you always want to set your next teams if you see you're like 200 points from the next level
Im nearly 200 points off so I think most whales (or just better progressed players) should be way ahead once I hit 3T lol
Cause you get those 200 points then you will go up a level
Even in the middle of the round
Yeah I'm in 3 teams rn

My wr always goes to shit
Until 6 teams bc that's when other ppl who only have like 4 or 5 good teams really feel the heat
Guess hitting that ceiling earlier was a blessing in disguise 
Yeah I started sweating bullets after I hit 6T last round. Ended up with the most random shit
have you shared your teams/roster?
jw
Yeah sometimes you win TOO much and jump up into ranks w ppl above your weight
the spin cycle
If you get some lucky wins against ppl above you you'll get more points
Yes the spin cycle

I hope other ppl start calling it that
I think I made it up I can't remember
whats spin cycle
When you get stuck rapidly gaining and falling rank but only in the same spot
Not maintaining rank or increasing, just cycling up and down
finished the day at 1%. let's see how long I can hang on
It happens to me a lot in t20
What I came up with after listening in here and copying others. No idea if anything after t1 works until next scrumble lol
Bc my ceiling is like t16 and my floor is t24ish
looks good actually
maybe switch raku and astar but idk
like a yo-yo 
Spin cycle happens mostly in t100 irs when ppl are clustered together w points like 1 or 2 off of each other
And all fighting each other obviously bc matchmaking sucks

The trenches
Hoping I can get t18 again
Not sure though if ppl start fucking whaling the new dims mid scrumhke
Yeah I mean it’s to be expected. When your rank is under your “true” rank, you tend to climb. Because of rng and because we get points in granular intervals, you tend to overshoot and then you start falling until you overshoot the other way and so on

Guys whats happeninf
I'm going to hit the ceiling
I don't want to
Ghibly is gonna spank me
Oh I touched ghost a couple times that's why I'm so high up
Thanks matchmaking for putting me against t2 when I am t11
Sir your athane. Sir.
Sir. Your atalene
Fuckinf fixk it
Your tree
What the fuck
That's the same tree I had when i whaled abaden
Bc I never really played the game until then
This guy's account is super weird
Weird investments
Animated awzizh pfp so not new whale
I don't remember seeing this person I wonder if it's an old account given to someone who's now paying a lot
No rank plates
Just weird
Someone could have sold their account to this person 💀
Accounts aren't worth shit 98% of the time
Their abel killed herself on athanes wind veil
Ahh thats nice of people then

Why am I being matched to the number 2 in r32
I'm pretty sure most of the random ppl appearing in r32 the past like 3 months is ppl giving accounts away and then new owners spending on them
Cause there's a lot of times I'm jumpscared on leaderboard lately by ppl I'm not following who I have never seen before
Thats a good thing, right? More new people to farm 
What do they usually do with older regions do they get merged eventually?
It’s been a while since they did but yeah they’ve merged regions in the past
Not really
Upsets the ecosystem
Though I suppose I did too
By being a fairly new whale and just kinda appearing in t20 like back in January
Oh dang
join the 1% club its comfier
What made u decide to whale for t20
Oh lol
So I figured I might as well learn to play the game
Everything I do infuriates everyone
Which brings me great joy
I'm the reason
is top emotes
tbh I started at 1%; consistent spending eventually outpaces "burst whales"
I give hythlo nightmares about trez
until their next burst 
I spend in spurts as well
Unless the burst whales consistent spend afterwards
Which is what I'm doing
I dont do it all the time but when i do i usually accomplish a few goals then stop
not too many on my region yet thankfully
ok burst whale

Once you get 15 or 18 pet rc then consistent spending just makes everything so easy
🤏
My region def has a few thats i wouldnt be able to compete with in a million years

confirmation will make me go kraken this weekend 🙂
Top 8 I have no chance with

Sir I am vip 16
Ha
I don't think that's a dolphin
Sus
And no thank you
You touched me 
Someone touched me with a 203e30 a4 trez I was very offended
I think im right around the 2 year mark
I beat them but it felt like abuse
What region are you in
Might be near me
36
Okay yeah
Server 900
I just hit 6 months yesterday? maybe the day before
Good job
My 2 year mark was April 1 and I’m in region 33
900 is 2 years old? wow
I do i enjoy it. I like the pvp modes and boss modes. I kinda dont push campaign unless i need to for some reason
I also like this game 
I like seeing older players that still play 
So not 2 years
My main problem with ts is rng of where you land if you're on the edge of a rank difference, and theres nothing you can really do about it. At least in nc and cr you can buy more hits to try and optimize
I've been playing since 2019 🙂
I consider ts one of my main priorities. The rewards for top 100 are pretty legit and 2x per event
very cool 
green got me my first t100 I love green
agree

Still suck lol
still playing tho 

Every other gacha game is too much work
Basically doing the old treasure scramble but daily
Err temporal rift not scramble
Or at least any game with a stamina system
What’s your 4 team set up like?

you didnt? 
idk i dont remember when i skipped like a month
I am required to ask you to leave, sir 
it was when pets came
jk ily


Nope s808. February 2021
cool
ill check tho
I didnt expect that, I thought u r like server 5xx or smth


Someone do math im lazy 

i wish excel would speak to me
That’s a lot damn
Long time
wish google play would say when did u download the game
Excel loves me and I love Excel 
Hard pass on R lmao
I too prefer the hard R



Nvm dyslexic

Lets use the fear trick
eorin kinda sus 

Raine for haelus
i try astar if eorin garbaggio
astar op 
she is 
M+17
skill issue

actually tho, why rowan in the corner and solise front?
get killed by enemy faster maybe. look over your losses and see

So which dim is everyone going for?
Emilia looks bonkers for pvp but I just wanna be sure
rem
Dang rem looks ridiculous too
Idk, I don't even have Yen built, and Mulan is a WIP
@fair needle
rem cycle?




if the maid doesn't work, then don't pay her 
Rosa is a child and she's working in your inn 
rem is stronger at 000e0 than abrutus at 4036e100

i have no counter argument
show picture
lilith needs to stop sexualizing rosa tho tbh
what 


i think they both go into must build category
same
btw i traded my zol for haelus 😆

min investment rosa 000 rem 000
sir speaking with you puts me on an emotional rollercoaster 
it works out kinda nice actually. now i have a zol with exactly 3f. at mythic. i kinda regretted taking him beyond 003 as early as i did
and 304 haelus + 1 copy now, working on star
so just grab zol from challenger shop for next few months and he's back, and save 300 red chests
sounds good 
poor zol got swapped 
temporarily 🤓
it does suck i have to build veithael from 1 elite copy though, was gonna trade an L+ wukong for him
Do we normally get 6-7k lab coins per dismal lab run or 12-14k? (Without double lab drop)
I have 8k lab coins right now, and I think we have 3 normal + 1 double lab left before swap ends - trying to see if I can squeeze one more wukong copy.
assuming ur FoS is maxed and <VIP13, expect ~7105 on avg run
Cool, so that’s 14 + 3*7 = 35k more. Really borderline. I think guild can drop some too? Maybe I’ll just wait it out till the last and see if I can get one more Wukong copy.
Greedy
hope I don’t accidentally miss my swap because of this greed 
wats FoS
hey im a returning player after 2y & i have no idea what this treasure scramble is abt
field of stars
ohh rite
scamble 45 minutes

it's pvp where it scrambles who you're up against, each rank adds another +1 team, has great rewards generally if you can place at over 10%
well, under 10%... since the number goes down... but it's a good thing
so no need for me to waste my time on it?
my acct is year old with light spending and gets 1%, it's not that hard since it has many regions
it's worth doing
well, with a 2 yr gap you'll be forever hopeless
I was in the same position and tried, it sucked, so i restarted
can't compete when you have no engraving, no awk hero, only half the meta hero, and way less +30s, 9fs, etc
yeah i wasn't gonna say anything lol but a gap that long is kinda a dead account, but if you're casual it doesn't matter ig
thing is campaign goes from "easy" to "this sucks" now so without being able to compete in anything idk why ppl play. tho some still do
The recent regions are probably going to be rough because of the ReZero collab though, but not as bad as a gap. Assuming the collab draws players as well as the Overlord one did.
dvts,n;r time

stroke
oh... um, have fun
when share
must be nice being a baeden haver 
wtf thats an insame emilia
f this rem lady emilia where its at 
203e60
I bet she doesn't even need e60
Check this shit out, this is the replay of that battle
I wanna seeee

dude your solise got bitch slapped 
XD
omg i want them
Me and a friend are gonna pop our dim trials this weekend and we're gonna throw comps at each other in arena
Poor Solise 😦

I did not realize how soon Emilia's ult comes out...
Like that's some Zol type quickness
As soon as I finish working on eorin and 9f on Joan I'm getting these two 9/9
Yeah yeah I know Joan 9 is luxury but I use her every ts 100% so it's worth for me
Everyone is TS here sir no need to justify yourself 
Fair enough xd
Honestly kinda worth it to build these two though, now that's a team while brutus gets shoved into mauler team at 6+
man
huge
shoot
no one built them yet in my region
based on recent replays
Should I be a trailblazer 
My region is free, only top 25 or so are dolphins. Top 5 are whales, everyone else is f2p or light spenders
lucky, feels the same here
im gonna save that video
i actually laughed with the whip
poor solise
I think Ainz can be safely retired now...
Yeah, if there's ever a engraving reset I might retire him tbh
He's only e44 but still
fml i literally just e41ed him too 
Ainz rewind 

Only top 25 being dolphins is crazy
Only 2 people have both dims on my region rn
And nobody has even one, or atleast not geared up enough that they wanna use it in ts
im throwing my 5* 010e00 rem in at t7 
I bet there's like 5k people in my region that have both dims

I mean, triple AW is literally f2p tier for my region
I'm vip 12 so, low level dolphin, only 4 awakens
Thinking about cutting back my spending though
The monthly deluxe is good enough imo
Then there's times where I'm like...I could buy a whole years worth of membership on Runescape for 75$ why am I spending this much for 2 regals and the monthlies? This is stupid


Yeah, I'm gonna do that, no amount of money is gonna get me top 20 anyways
Old Man as a dim when 
I’ll trim your rune armor in gold if you whale maetria for me
loan me bandos
starting to lean pretty heavily on emilia over rem :Q

If I had any resources I'd be tempted to buy one of them but the most I could do is si20





