treasure-scramble

[restive goblet]

And at lvl 9 it disables 2 enemies

[trail swift]

fug

wishlisting him over owl for 9reso

[indigo quail]

yes

but for kraken

[lapis moth]

[night wasp]

Anyone willing to help me make some TS formations?

[indigo quail]

yesn't

[obtuse mauve]

Check messages with image attachments in this channel. Just be careful to pick formations for the right debuff rotation

[dapper lance]

a couple of people consistently post roster screenshots

[restive goblet]

Is blade ridge 12 worth using spices for

and is it any good in any TS comps?

[lapis moth]

do you have reso 9 and winged 12 yet

[lapis moth]

ridge will be best value yeah, either that or moth for ship rewards

no idea about new pet yet though seems good so far

[restive goblet]

I think I’d rather do the candy monster than moth

I think moth is mostly for talene rounds isn’t it?

[lapis moth]

yeah but it can fit every rotation even if you have no talene

and 12 is a power spike

[restive goblet]

hmm maybe I should put moth on my wishlist

I have owl atm but I know it’s not the best for CR

owl 12 seems neat in TS and rift

[lapis moth]

owl not high impact until 15

[restive goblet]

Candy monster at 9 significantly reduced the time on my Belinda fight in NC

15 on that is gonna be nice for even more energy

[trail swift]

candy OPster

[sour jay]

time to scrumble

[dapper monolith]

Can someone share some early game teams

Like top 40ish kinda

[gilded salmon]

you're not getting top 40 with early game teams lol

[dawn tinsel]

Damn it - accidentally clicked on Crassio pop up as soon as game loaded 🙁🙁🙁

Messes up mauler tower poosh and any potential campaign usage. Game really needs to fix this pop up, accidentally click problem!

[sour jay]

are you a massive whale?

[dapper monolith]

P2poor

[sour jay]

sucks to suck

you can get top 10% and better as f2p, some get like 1%

in r43 you won't get t100

[dapper monolith]

I managed to get top 62 on my first scramble

62%

[sour jay]

oh yeah that's very different lol

[dapper monolith]

Fk i should have specified lol

Since i read the debuff for this scramble i figured that daimon might not be the play for first 2 teams

[sour jay]

if daimon's one of your only A he's okay, doesn't get shields but still does okay damage for early team

[dapper monolith]

Ive copy of Abaden Athane Abelinda

If u think any of this can outperform daimon with some comp lmk

[sour jay]

probably not, at least not now this late in the region. Maybe once r44 comes and splits you off

athane is probably okay

[gaunt marten]

The scrumple is ready

[dapper monolith]

Hopefully it will solit me off

[gaunt marten]

@still heron where did you go

@proven hearth greem??

[proven hearth]

Of course!

[gaunt marten]

Greeeeeem

[sour jay]

easy #1 fat whale. I wish I could build ulric

[dapper monolith]

Why r u using greens btw

[gaunt marten]

Emotional damage comp

[dapper monolith]

Oh

[dull elbow]

It's about the message

[gaunt marten]

I don't whale anymore leave me alone

[sour jay]

whale a massive ulric then quit smh

[gaunt marten]

I saved for Edwin in advance cause I knew about him like a month ahead of time

The con is that then I had a skinny maetria for like a week

[gaunt marten]

Exactly

I wish I was r32 rank 1

Ghibly is rank 1

[dull elbow]

I am f2p in r3 never can get over 60%

[gaunt marten]

Yikes that's an old account

[dapper monolith]

R3 is fucked beyond no

[dull elbow]

Yeah

[gaunt marten]

I'm guessing you quit a few times or something cause I feel like playing consistently you should be able to 10% at least

[gilded salmon]

I went green this time too, or do you mean green heroes

[gaunt marten]

Older regions to an extent can be hard yeah usually t100 is difficult but below that not as much

[gilded salmon]

blue was not nice to me

[gaunt marten]

Green route

[gilded salmon]

yeah green gang

[gaunt marten]

I always green route

[sour jay]

I'm red

[gaunt marten]

Die

Not green

[dull elbow]

I took a year off then came last year back to world I didn't recognize

[gilded salmon]

D:

[alpine grove]

Best path

[sour jay]

my hope is that people play with their right hand and are more likely to press green and blue cause it's closer

[gaunt marten]

Yeah good fucking luck

How many built awakened

[gaunt marten]

Thats interesting

I touch stuff on the lower half of the screen w my left hand and the upper half w my right

[dull elbow]

Belinda and Brutus at L+. I have the rest as well. I have had better luck pulling them from Tavern then temple

[gaunt marten]

🥹

[main abyss]

hot

[dull elbow]

.01% chance in Tavern and 2.0% in Temple but almost never get any in temple

[gaunt marten]

Hot

[vital coral]

theres region 44 now but i ended up as one of the last servers in 43 kinda makes me wanna uninstall tbh

[sour jay]

in a few months the benefit from older servers will taper off

[dawn tinsel]

You are the chosen one.

[pine parrot]

any good abel compss?

[gilded salmon]

cycle

[gaunt marten]

Alna abel rayne palmer rowan, classic cycle

[restive goblet]

I like how at this point cycle just means Rowan is (probably) in the comp

[pine parrot]

thanks!

[gaunt marten]

Lmao I mean ezizh rowan haelus/palmer rayne basically

[pine parrot]

can i use ezizh as elite only?

[sour jay]

"classic cycle" with only 1 of the classic cycle heros

[gaunt marten]

Don't need twins for pvp so not including them

[gaunt marten]

Pedant

[sour jay]

if you aren't running rowan twins talene ezizh mehira I don't wanna talk to you

[gaunt marten]

Alna better option then if you're doing pvp and you have a built alna

Lmao

[pine parrot]

what about GB then? replacement for alna

[gaunt marten]

You need dr for abel basically if you're not immediately pumping her with energy

[restive goblet]

Running mehira in pvp cycle

[gaunt marten]

Lol

[pine parrot]

sry im big noob, whats dr? 😄

[sour jay]

just joking because tha'ts the og cycle

[restive goblet]

nah in pvp it was always tasi instead of mehira

[dull elbow]

Damage reduction

[sour jay]

oh i don't remember that

too long ago

and also I'm f2poor

[restive goblet]

They did tasi dirty with adding tenacity and giving her 0 insight

[dull elbow]

Not sure about second team yet

[gilded salmon]

even in ice?

[wise lion]

Damage reduction, typically expressed as a %. It blocks X% of incoming damage

[wise lion]

Alna is garbage in pvp without 9f, and ABel def can't frontline without Alna 9f
L Baden probs won't do much, either

[dull elbow]

Thx

[restive goblet]

Is Abelinda cycle better than dims in this buff? I have ainz with Palmer set from last time

[obtuse mauve]

Ainz is his best in ice, and cycle is handicapped by the debuff. Otoh, Bawlinda is crazy, so idk

[gaunt marten]

She's good, not as insane as in burst for some reason

But that's my bracket

[gaunt marten]

He can look cute though

[wise lion]

I dunno, I prefer his twin

[sour jay]

does abel true dmg go through the dr buff ?

[sacred notch]

Saw y'all talk about it earlier

[gaunt marten]

Lol idk why anyone thought they'd allow that

What's the fucking vc you're in

[untold lion]

Luckily i ddnt pull some copies

[obtuse mauve]

In that case, only option to me is m tawlene to bawden or sawlise

Any news on flora/wukong inclusion?

[sacred notch]

Gloriosso Gungeon. Our old high school gym teachers dungeon in his basement

[gilded salmon]

[gaunt marten]

I don't like it here

[sacred notch]

Join me in the high school basement gave

Gabe*

[toxic prawn]

What do you guys think about not using alna on gb’s early on, feel like and asolise would be better. Using grez btw

Also merlin or Joan for dims

[winter owl]

I have M+ Atalene and a 3 star wukong.. guess ill prob swap 3 star wukong to veilthael

[gilded salmon]

I'd swap talene

[indigo quail]

I'd swap wukong

[sacred notch]

I'd was grez

[obtuse mauve]

I could push as far as ch40 without alna, deficit 220+. No pets back then, so today you could go even farther i think.

[toxic prawn]

Ts

[obtuse mauve]

Do they conflict? Isn't Merlin from chal and Joan from lab?

[toxic prawn]

I’m talking about what to use on frost debuff

[carmine shale]

Think this'll work?

[obtuse mauve]

I see. I'd say both, but no shields tilts it towards Joan a bit, if I had to choose

[obtuse mauve]

You can test freely up until 3 teams, i.e. the first couple of days. 4 teams and up you lock the best teams you found in your tests

[toxic prawn]

Also isn’t raku pretty good because % based damage is unchanged? Or is that wrong

[dawn tinsel]

Bump on this - I'd like to know too. My current plan is to buy Wukongs from lab shap and swap with Vei (can get up to M, maybe M+ depending on lab income by then.)

[toxic prawn]

If that’s true I might try some raku ezio shenanigans

[toxic prawn]

They are swappable

[obtuse mauve]

Beware lab shop resets monthly, so you cannot buy multiple wukongs without resetting with diamonds

[dawn tinsel]

Yeah, that's why I need to know now. I definitely have enough to buy 3 wukongs - maybe 4. So if it's confirmed that swappable, I'll reset shop once now and buy 2. Then buy 1-2 after reset (resetting in 8d).

[dawn tinsel]

Awesome, thanks - and what's the event timeline (start and end)?

[toxic prawn]

Starts on the 1st lasts 2 weeks

I’m already engraving talene trying to push tower while I can

[wise kindle]

Slay

I’m in region 44

[toxic prawn]

Nice. Hopefully you will end up being on one of the earlier servers for it, helps a lot

[indigo quail]

[gilded salmon]

I'm just hoping I get pushed into r8 in nc

[wise kindle]

Im in 1048 tho

Kinda new I guess

Around 1 month

[toxic prawn]

It takes a few months for the new servers to settle. You can’t know yet

[wise kindle]

Did I choose the wrong route
I think I misclicked

[wise kindle]

I don’t want to compete with the people in 1040 lol they are at least a month ahead of us

[gilded salmon]

well that depends is green your favorite color

[wise kindle]

Blue is my favorite

[gilded salmon]

then yeah you fucked up

[wise kindle]

Im ok with green tho

[wise kindle]

I like blue slighty tinted with green tho doesn’t really matter to me

[gilded salmon]

[indigo quail]

me always choose green

[gilded salmon]

there is no multi track drifting allowed in ts

I picked green this time cause blue let me down

I'm scared to pick red cause I feel like that's a tryhard color

[indigo quail]

@vagrant prawn can I merc ur lucy

[wise kindle]

Last time I pick red because I had no choice

[regal cobalt]

I always pick red

[gilded salmon]

are you a whale

[regal cobalt]

no

im just good

[gilded salmon]

[regal cobalt]

whom art thou staring at, brodie

[indigo quail]

@lapis moth gib ezizh sir

[regal cobalt]

why u saying this in ts channel, lol ?

[vagrant prawn]

They mercing everything

[regal cobalt]

fr homie

[indigo quail]

that stupid rigby

[vagrant prawn]

Y build when you can merc it all

[regal cobalt]

trueeee

[vagrant prawn]

[regal cobalt]

gimme that mishka and sat bruh

[indigo quail]

this is general chat, ts, cr, rift, nc channel

[regal cobalt]

um.....

Im sorry to say

[indigo quail]

#treasure-scramble is just a name

[regal cobalt]

but #treasure-scramble doesnt equate to #classic-chat, #temporal-rift, or realms

even then

[obtuse mauve]

Ofc it doesn't equate, this channel is much superior

[regal cobalt]

you can just dm for mercs

[regal cobalt]

fair enough ig

pvp>>>

[carmine shale]

The channel says treasure scamble yes but

The community here in ts channel is different from everyone else

[regal cobalt]

the username LMAO

I love that

[regal cobalt]

the quirky mean girls

got it

i fit perfectly here then

[dawn tinsel]

I like how you added NC in there 🙂

On a related note, here's a question not (purely) relevant to TS - what's Veithael min investment, optimal investment, and important breakpoints?

[vagrant prawn]

Bro i keep thinking north carolina when nc is said

[regal cobalt]

lmao

[carmine shale]

Same

It's why I recommend NMC

[regal cobalt]

From what ive seen in NC specifically, he can work at M20-ish for R1, but just about nothing else does he work that low at. Id say min is either M30 or Ascended 309. Optimal is between 309e30 and e60. You dont NEED e60 for him to be a beast, but it is a really solid breakpoint

[dawn tinsel]

Good to know thanks! I'll probably get him to M+20 after the swap event, and throw him on furn wl for the long term.

[regal cobalt]

sure, but its unlikely next NC rotation he'll work at the same investment

so youll definitely have to increase the SI at somepoint. Though, I was also using him at like +27 or +28

so the 25 mightve made the difference

[dawn tinsel]

True. Still good to know he has value even at M. If nothing else, he'll give me some cele tower progression. He'll probably be my next sg after Haelus, but Haelus also only at M, so got a long road ahead.

[regal cobalt]

oh, fs will help a ton

[dawn tinsel]

Awesome - that might give me some si30 mats too.

[regal cobalt]

tru

[storm moth]

SKRUMPLE

[lilac bobcat]

Sgumble

[restive goblet]

We are all mathematicians here 🤓

math homework and scrumble

[lilac bobcat]

I am applied physician

Not mathematician

I can also count as theoretical physician too

[dawn tinsel]

*physicist

[raven lark]

could tell

[lilac bobcat]

No physician

Cause imma hurt you

Why tf you need 1 day to prepare in Scromblerg

[misty epoch]

Because shit mode, delete please

Thank you

[lilac bobcat]

Pls don't delete

[still heron]

Blue

[trail swift]

how poopoo is abootus on bliz

[gaunt marten]

No we are main chat but cooler

And I can be sexy in here and zappy won't yell at me probably

[gaunt marten]

Abandoned me

[gaunt marten]

Bad like 40-55% wr

Unless your teams absolutely roided then maybe you can squeeze a bit more

Imagine coming into ts chat and telling skrumplekins theyre ts chatting wrong

There's no rules in ts chat just don't do math homework in here

[trail swift]

i just have abootus in grez gb team atm

since they don’t really need alna is blizz

i d k

[gaunt marten]

Yeah that works

I have to give abrutus grez too bc he sucks

Poor abrutus

[lilac bobcat]

Good

His comp doesn't really affect other comp

Gets 70%ish

[trail swift]

that’s just for 2 team tho lol. i kinda have to pull abrutus off and into some ghetto 3f skreg team later when i start running outta teams

[unique hazel]

First time Participating in the Treassure Scramble, which route is advised?
The red blue or green road?

[indigo quail]

up to u

it doesnt matter

[limpid lava]

Which one is better

[quartz salmon]

Try both

[indigo quail]

1st one
ainz op

it doesnt matter anyway

[storm moth]

skrumple

@misty epoch we gonna fight i picked green

[still heron]

Scrombl

[misty epoch]

[storm moth]

[misty epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19492475

[lapis moth]

copied your 43-4-1 cheese and it worked

everyone else use the same thing but didn't work for me

[misty epoch]

Which one is it? I forgot

[lapis moth]

yours was the only one without T3 reso so either kelthur or no eironn gear did the job

left it overnight yesterday but mf crashed

[misty epoch]

I was too poor back then, no T3 reso

[lapis moth]

that luc round took forever

[misty epoch]

Lucy is usually shit yea

[lilac bobcat]

Blue

Let the sbromblerg start

Why I need to wait

F u game

[storm moth]

@misty epoch gib tips

okay charm worked

[lilac bobcat]

Use lyca instead of mortas. Fu auto correct

Lyca

[storm moth]

lyca in cheese

[lilac bobcat]

Also why there's ezio

I dont see Brutus to ezio

[storm moth]

idk

[lilac bobcat]

Ezio ult will be so small Belinda can just tickle them

Charming skreg is kinda rng

What other pets give haste to int?

Check

[storm moth]

i can use the new thingy

ig

idk what he does tho

[lilac bobcat]

Try

Charm pet is mostly the polar one

[storm moth]

i said that charm worked

with polar

[lilac bobcat]

O

See

Use diamon instead of ezio

[storm moth]

okay this worked with ezio and mortas

green ball

[lilac bobcat]

Gg

[storm moth]

just 20 stages more

[indigo quail]

hi

complain strat time

gib tips

[stiff prawn]

[lapis moth]

me too gib tips luc round

will never work

[indigo quail]

complain strat op

just clear a luc round

[lapis moth]

[indigo quail]

positive vibes

[lapis moth]

[ashen tusk]

team recommendations for this round?

[storm moth]

where dims

[still heron]

Dim are overrated

[gilded salmon]

[storm moth]

sir ainz op this round

[dapper lance]

[still heron]

Fück Ainz useless bytch ass

[storm moth]

give him some love bro

its his only good round

[still heron]

[ashen tusk]

🫠

[dawn tinsel]

What’s the best Ainz team to run? Need to choose three from 209 Merlin, 203 JoA, 203 Yen, 200 Mortas, 203 Arthur

[indigo quail]

best

[lapis moth]

[sturdy elbow]

Yen is a given, every other unit comes down to what you have available. Palmer is also a good choice if you have him free

Anyone here still have an AThane available?

[indigo quail]

[lapis moth]

mine taken sorry

[misty epoch]

Yea

133669162

[sturdy elbow]

Nice! Let me add.

[misty epoch]

DD?

[sturdy elbow]

Yeah

Mostly need it for NC so shouldn't matter

Thanks @misty epoch

[misty epoch]

[dawn tinsel]

Cool, thanks! If running both Palmer and Yen, I guess Palmer goes middle right? My Palmer is only 203e30 though..

[sturdy elbow]

[dawn tinsel]

Perfect, thanks. I’m giving Wolise to GBs in t1/2, so will Mortas or JoA there.

[storm moth]

yen is 303e30 now

[misty epoch]

Shameless whaling smh

[obtuse mauve]

Push to e4x

[sturdy elbow]

Do it

[storm moth]

no im saving stuff for vei

[obtuse mauve]

Lots of nice nodes, you won't regret it

[dawn tinsel]

My own Yen is e41, how’s yours not?

Fake

[storm moth]

she doesnt need anything

she was 203 like a week ago

and did good

[obtuse mauve]

Blasphemy!

Yen needs all your love and care and cores

[misty epoch]

Define good

[flat flume]

Mulan needs all the love

[misty epoch]

Mine's mid and she's 303e30 too

[obtuse mauve]

Yen best, Mulan bestest

[sturdy elbow]

Hard agree

[dawn tinsel]

Thoughts / suggestions on my t4? Other teams I could make are Scarlet burst, and Raku-LDV. Plus some standard flex units like Anasta, Arthur, Skreg etc to throw around.

[indigo quail]

Palmer in dims and JoA in mishka, also scarlet for astar maybe

[sturdy elbow]

Also don't waste Alna with ABel

[knotty verge]

would u guys prefer to use your swap for 7 Veith copies or 4 waden copies?

I have no other options, maybe cruke

[indigo quail]

vei

[flat flume]

Alna even useful this debuff?

[sturdy elbow]

Diamonds are plenty though, you'll get Vei up in no time, TGs are not even if the acquisition has increased

Also who are you exchanging to Waden for?

[indigo quail]

if you were firefly

[obtuse mauve]

I have 3 copies of vei. I'm gonna swap A flora, but I'm leaning towards gazing a single cruke and swap to not waste 2 gazed copies swapping vei

[knotty verge]

4 wokalene -> 1 waden | 7 wukong -> 1 vei

[flat flume]

U will gain 3 baden

Extra

[sturdy elbow]

How many time cards do you have now?

[storm moth]

just look at my wrs

[knotty verge]

0

[indigo quail]

[knotty verge]

I am building abel rn

[sturdy elbow]

Then do Vei

[knotty verge]

alr, ty

[misty epoch]

55% is good?

[sturdy elbow]

She's alright but not crucial to teams like in forest/fire

[storm moth]

it is at t30-40 smh

[misty epoch]

Ogey

Come at me, I am waiting

[storm moth]

[misty epoch]

Where do you place Swolise?

Asking for a friend

[flat flume]

Ldv is the king in that comp xD

[misty epoch]

[storm moth]

rn in ainz

and later in stall

[misty epoch]

I mean what pos

[storm moth]

oh p5

[misty epoch]

Ty

[storm moth]

[misty epoch]

Hmmm

[storm moth]

wait you have swolise?

[misty epoch]

No

[storm moth]

[misty epoch]

Told you

Asking for a friend

[storm moth]

[dawn tinsel]

You’d run Scarlet with Mishka, JoA, Swolise and Neva? Is her usual burst setup with Estrilda, Raine, Lyca not good this debuff (because low damage and energy recovery early)?

[misty epoch]

Also

Fuck this stage

[indigo quail]

Just for 2nd dps
Since astar cant give shield

[storm moth]

i paid for a sub and lilith didnt give me a 2nd merc this week

[dawn tinsel]

Alna with GBs? Or Alna altogether unnecessary this debuff? And who would you put with ABel instead then?

[still heron]

Use awakened heroes

[misty epoch]

[still heron]

Ez claps

[indigo quail]

[flat flume]

It's active?

[dawn tinsel]

Makes sense. How does Scarlet energy drain work this debuff? Bit worried it will hurt the team a lot.

[indigo quail]

[sturdy elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/whale-whale-sharks-gif-26141114

[misty epoch]

Wait, maybe I am using wrong SP skill

[still heron]

[storm moth]

wait it isnt

why

[indigo quail]

Try it and see

[flat flume]

Same thing happened to Spartan

[storm moth]

scam

[flat flume]

Idk what he did

[storm moth]

i want to be ch44 already

[flat flume]

Ask support maybe

[sturdy elbow]

I mean if you have no solid options, keep with Alna. Ezizh/Raine/Palmer pair well with her.

[storm moth]

sir ae finished, you joining nihilum?

[knotty verge]

did u try using maetria instead of mishka?

[sturdy elbow]

Official isn't

[storm moth]

[misty epoch]

I used her trial already

[knotty verge]

nonono trial

your own

[still heron]

Join now or

[knotty verge]

join olympians

mingles quit and we are very sad people now

[still heron]

Nou

[knotty verge]

we got gabe

[indigo quail]

bear where

[knotty verge]

[indigo quail]

[still heron]

Tempting

[lapis moth]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-14818845

[storm moth]

he quit

[indigo quail]

[knotty verge]

@indigo quail when do u quit

[indigo quail]

when I join nihilum like bear

[misty epoch]

Send guild ID

[knotty verge]

6401

@main abyss

[storm moth]

zod is joining nihilum btw

[knotty verge]

no

😦

[storm moth]

yes because if he does

i get spec spot in ex

[indigo quail]

oh

wait

[main abyss]

[knotty verge]

@storm moth how far can I push in campaign with rc404

[misty epoch]

Not found

[knotty verge]

I think I should push and use up my weekly zaph and aezizh mercs so I don't get stuck when campaign gets too easy

[knotty verge]

I am stuck at a single teams stage bc my thoran cheese sucks

I hate cheesing against brutus

[indigo quail]

ch45

[knotty verge]

I doubt it without aezizh and a zaph copy

[lapis moth]

💳

[indigo quail]

tamrus is zaph sub

[storm moth]

probably ch42+

[indigo quail]

a b c

[knotty verge]

btw I need to apologize to just take in mishka in old si guide

I heard she actually messes up trift teams with scarlet with a too low mage branch if she gets higher rating than scarlet

[indigo quail]

rift? why

[knotty verge]

so early mishka si30 is a bad brainer, not a no brainer

[knotty verge]

bc support heroes will support mishka instead of scarlet ig

[indigo quail]

Who

Raine?

[knotty verge]

yeah

[indigo quail]

Use her in abel comp

[knotty verge]

my abel is just M300

[dawn tinsel]

I have all of those, just wasn’t sure if ABel can survive long enough to ult without Alna. Maybe in this debuff she can? Will front ABel + Twins and put Raine back line.

[indigo quail]

Or wolise

Or dont use her

Who needs raine

btw

[indigo quail]

You suggested me si30 ainz over scarlet but why the guides told me to si30 scarlet before ainz

And actually raine support mishka is a good thing

[dawn tinsel]

ABel. Not sure if the energy recovery directly helps, but it should still trigger SP I guess?

[indigo quail]

Since scarlet can easily drain our energy

But mishka dies too quickly, so her si20 might help mishka a bit.

[sturdy elbow]

Try it out, newer regions she can do amazingly well without needing Alna, let go of Twins

[indigo quail]

in rift

You can run 5 teams without raine

[knotty verge]

I think getting scarlet fed up for all available modes in early/mid game is more beneficial than just mercing a fed scarlet for twisted realm and slack on her. Ainz is really good at 209 already and if he really needs his si30 buff it might be bad to even use him in this case

[indigo quail]

[knotty verge]

so if I suggested it recently I am really sorry otherwise this would have been an old suggestion

ah yeah I think that was right before I read a bit into it

I recently changed my mind about it

[indigo quail]

well it doesnt matter much anyway I can get 300 reds easily

[knotty verge]

but I have to say

there is literally not much difference in swapping these positions so there is actually no good or bad

both are high prio and going for either one is totally fine

yeah

[main abyss]

if you want into the guild we have a spot now

[dawn tinsel]

How’s this? Also cc @indigo quail , included some of your suggestions too.

[indigo quail]

JoA front

[dawn tinsel]

JoA tankier even with Wolise cheat death?

[indigo quail]

for more protection value

from si20

[dawn tinsel]

Got it, makes sense. This debuff first 3 seconds damage might be small, but I don’t have very good reasons for Wolise front either.

[indigo quail]

well maybe wolise front give her more energy

idk

[dawn tinsel]

Yeah, probably doesn’t make a big difference…

[alpine sundial]

im assuming tarnos investment is 309e60?

[indigo quail]

He can work at e30

[dawn tinsel]

For swap, I’m planning Wukong -> Vei after buying as many wukong as I can from lab store (3-4).

Built wokes are Wolise and Baelinda.

Does this sound like the right plan?

[alpine sundial]

hmm i see well looks like ill be doing 309e30 when the swap goes live

[winter owl]

I’m also doing wukong to veit , seems solid

[spark prism]

What seems like a bigger boost. Mythic woke thane for 1* 309e60 woke talene. Or 5* +20 wukong for tarnos

[indigo quail]

whane

[lapis moth]

if you already got whane mythic why swap him

[still heron]

AwThane

[still heron]

Coz AwThane is way better then Tarnus

[lapis moth]

but he's close and gonna end up with a mythic talene

just swap to another woke

[still heron]

Can u show us all ur awakened heroes

[spark prism]

I have all the others “built” except ezizh and maetria

[lapis moth]

what about celehypos

[still heron]

Mae is pretty good

[lapis moth]

[misty epoch]

Anything is pretty good if you're a whel

[dapper lance]

[spark prism]

Celehypos missing audrae, tarnos in terms of the allowed to swap heroes that see meta use

Also just a longtime dolphin lol

[lapis moth]

thane it is ig

[spark prism]

I was really hoping the gazing trick would be a thing

Could have gazed up a couple of copies of talene and had them both ascended after

[proven hearth]

Will you be using dias to refresh lab store?

[dawn tinsel]

Yeah - at least once, maybe twice. I think 1k dias + 45k lab coins is a small price for 1 cele copy. What do others think?

[dawn tinsel]

Great!

[misty epoch]

I'm also doing wukong to veit , seems solid

[feral coral]

@ebon flare what teams on day 1?

[still heron]

Poor monkey

[still heron]

[restive goblet]

I don’t want to swap any of my awakened heroes and I already have vei. So that leaves monke -> Cruke/Tarnos/Zaph/Framton

Is Olgath any good in TS?

Cruke works in lots of teams right? Not just Asolise?

[limpid lava]

Should I also put jen somewhere

[lapis moth]

luc won

[indigo quail]

if e30 yes, for mortas

[lapis moth]

literally took a whole day ffs

[indigo quail]

gratz

[lapis moth]

thanks

[misty epoch]

e80 when?

[lapis moth]

after smoku gets it

[still heron]

[dawn tinsel]

My app usually dies after a few hours of auto battle 🙁 would have cleared 42-28 by now if that wasn’t the case. Any optimization settings?

[lapis moth]

ld player

[obtuse mauve]

Strangely, my phone app holds better than ldplayer

[dawn tinsel]

What’s that? Something like bluestacks?

[lapis moth]

like bluestacks but lighter

[dawn tinsel]

Looks like I have a 6x accelerator and low power options not selected - will try those.

[dawn tinsel]

6x looks super weird

[low iron]

Last I checked, he was seeing some use in Burst or Maetria Full-Hypo. But you can't exchange for Olgath, I don't think.

[ebon flare]

Literally anything

No idea what I’m running

Probably Alna Luc and Ainz

[storm moth]

whalehawk is here

[misty epoch]

[dawn tinsel]

I thought Luc might suck this debuff because energy gain is nerfed?

[storm moth]

he doesnt give a single fuck about teams from 2-4

[restive goblet]

4 teams matters

[dapper lance]

Is brutus to baden dumb swap

[storm moth]

yeah

im going for L+ monke -> cruke

[dapper lance]

okay it sounded dumb just wanna make sure

[storm moth]

i wanted to do that too dw

[dapper lance]

big whales think alike

[storm moth]

[restive goblet]

I think I’m going to buy like 4 or 5 copies of monke and turn them all into cruke

[storm moth]

we same vip lvl even tho i didnt but anything

[dapper lance]

when you say buy do you mean sg?

[dapper lance]

[restive goblet]

Lab shop. I have like 190k lab coins atm and we have like 2 weeks to get more

[dapper lance]

o god dam

[storm moth]

i will buy like 1 or 2

[dapper lance]

can i refund these dim emblems

[storm moth]

and sg 1 cruke

[restive goblet]

Is Tarnos useable without Solise

[lapis moth]

tarnos needs nev I believe

don't get tranos over chimera tho

[restive goblet]

I have nev 309e60 but no Solise or Baden

I may have slightly jumped the gun on that one

[pine ether]

why do you think it doesn't matter ?

[lapis moth]

🐳

[storm moth]

because it doesnt

[pine ether]

xD why though it is still points that you score no ?

[dapper lance]

I think the only one that matters is t7

[restive goblet]

The calculation at 5 teams is really early on, so having a strong 4-team setup gives you a cushion to help not get fugged by rng in the round before 1st rewards

[dapper lance]

Oh right there's a midpoint reward

Fair

t4/t7 matters

[restive goblet]

I think 4-teams, 5-teams, and 7-teams matters

mayyybeeee 6-teams

but pretty much everyone makes it to 7-teams with a bunch of fights left so 6-teams is less important probably

[dapper lance]

Argh yeah that's true I'm trying to recall my performance

It pretty much became stable at t6

[storm moth]

because you dont get anything from t2 and t3

[dapper lance]

t4/t5 say big swings but it HAS to matter because of rewards day

t4/t5/t6 important

Final answer

[storm moth]

so about that alt thing

[quartz salmon]

lmaoo

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

you really dig that up hahaha

so did you do an alt in the end?

[storm moth]

took like 10 sec

[storm moth]

yeah

[quartz salmon]

cause I absolutely ddint

[storm moth]

didnt play for more than 20 min

[quartz salmon]

oh lol

seems about right

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

You think I can get 8 copies in 200 tots?

[storm moth]

you think i can get 12 copies in 260

[dapper lance]

thats 25 per

thats 21 per

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

easy

we jsut need to get rates like those mfers that suit quit

i cant even ping bear he left the server aswell

[storm moth]

i didnt quit and got those rates

[dapper lance]

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

[trail swift]

@storm moth do you have veithael

or going cruke before him

[storm moth]

vei is M+

2 copies from A

[trail swift]

i'll have Lkong + 1 copy to trade with veithael, already have L haelus

dam

i'm so behind on sging

[quartz salmon]

vei over cruke

[storm moth]

you are not

well maybe you are

[trail swift]

i don't have haelus, veithael or A twins lol

[storm moth]

but im not playing on poe hoe

[quartz salmon]

get 3+ of haelus imo rather than start vei now

[trail swift]

i have A zolrath i could trade but it seems kinda dumb to do that then just rebuild him

[quartz salmon]

you did A zol?

hmm

[trail swift]

i already have L haelus so i can't really trade him up for wukong

lol yeh

[quartz salmon]

you'll provbably get a E copy of haelus by then

you have till the 14th of april

2 weeks for 70 sgs is easy

[trail swift]

i have L haelus already

and E veithael

so wukong won't really help my haelus but at least i'd get a few copies of veithael for later

[quartz salmon]

that'll give you haelus M, marginally better than doing two sgs at the same time cause you have haelus + vei L

[trail swift]

wait wut

doesn't it trade all the copies?

[quartz salmon]

yeah

[trail swift]

my L haelus would become my L wukong, what would i gain there?

i'm confuz

[quartz salmon]

woops

brb

[trail swift]

[quartz salmon]

what im saying is swap L wukong -> E haelus

and if you dont have an E copy rn you definitely will before then event ends

[trail swift]

swapping wukong to an E copy of haelus would also swap my L copy of haelus, wouldn't it?

all additional copies get swapped

[spark prism]

It swaps all copies of the heroe

[quartz salmon]

so you'll have L haelus + 3 extra copies

it wont impact your currently existing L haelus

just swaps all your wukogns copies into haelues

[gilded salmon]

it will

[spark prism]

Yes it will. It will turn L haelus into L wukong

[quartz salmon]

it will???

[quartz salmon]

I thought that was only one way

if you get waht I mean

[spark prism]

You’re thinking of it like how people were planning the stargaze trick. Which ended up debunked

[quartz salmon]

huh

[trail swift]

yeh... sadly swapping my L wukong to E haelus + L haelus would end up with L+E wukong and L haelus

damn i wish i was closer to that lab quest. 160/200, you get like 45k lab for that

170/200* still 2 months away though 😦

[spark prism]

Just in time for the upcoming double dims

[quartz salmon]

what I understood for that sg trick is trying to sg awks copies will change them aswell

so it simply changes every copy both ways?

[spark prism]

It swaps all copies of the heros you have in your box

[trail swift]

yeah seems so

[quartz salmon]

both ways?

hmm

[trail swift]

as a protection probably for that exact reason

even though it screws me over in my case ,_,

[quartz salmon]

one way doesnt mean you can do that sg trick does it?

[spark prism]

It’s definitely not one way

Since engraving furniture gear etc all get swapped

[quartz salmon]

yh but like if I wanna swap 5 2lene copies into wadens but I already have 2 wadens copies then I only gain 3 ?

so havign more wadens is actually worst??

[spark prism]

Pretty much

[quartz salmon]

bruhhh

[trail swift]

yeh

you end with 5 waden 2 2lene

[quartz salmon]

I went from wanting to swap A whane to waden, to swaping L 2lene to waden to it doesnt matter

[quartz salmon]

then get vei copies yeah

[trail swift]

yeh kinda leaning on that

then just letting them sit for a while as i finish haelus

[quartz salmon]

i'll maybe do the same tbh

[trail swift]

then there's some other options like swapping my overinvested daimon (303e30) to nevanthi (202), but eh

or my zolrath to haelus, then rebuilding him later... but also eh

[quartz salmon]

nah prob dont

hmmm zol to haelus seems kidna good to me

haelus is jsut so important idk

prob wanna ask big brain

[trail swift]

my zol gets pretty low use, just campaign mostly. and it was a dumb idea to stargaze him

as early as i did

if i did that i'd have haelus fairly built then (304), then do veithael, then do cruke or zol again lel

[quartz salmon]

i think thats a better choice than getting +3 copies of vei

[trail swift]

while pulling zol copies from chal store

[gilded salmon]

idk swapping zol seems unnecessary. Kinda like swapping out of thane or brutus for a different woke

[quartz salmon]

seems like a good diea to me

[trail swift]

i've gone back and forth on teh idea idk

[quartz salmon]

haelus is more important than zol tho

zol is just burst comp in ts but is replaceable

[trail swift]

it'd definitely be an immediate strength gain, without much loss

[quartz salmon]

also campaign but merceable

haelus is in every cr rotation and in ts

[trail swift]

and trift

[quartz salmon]

yeah also

Im letting zol build himselft from store personally ill get him A in like 6 months

[trail swift]

my haelus is L already too and has 3f, so zol would have some furn back and an L start

idk lol

[feral coral]

Most kraken shit I've ever heard

[quartz salmon]

[quartz salmon]

seems good to me but ask some whales liek this bish @still heron

[trail swift]

whales don't really know the feeling of lackin tho lol

it's easy to say be patient/etc in hindsight or from a perspective of someone that takes SG for granted i guess

but lacking haelus every week do be suckin

it is kinda nice having my zol though, but i'm nearing ch42 and the already small benefit of campaign pushing kinda evaporate at that point

[quartz salmon]

yeah thats very true

[quartz salmon]

wait you are ?

ngl I though you were c40 still lmao

[trail swift]

yeh currently getting my ass kicked on 41-40 atm

[quartz salmon]

can I add you?

i like to have fellow c41 players in fl

[quartz salmon]

ive been stuck on 41-52 for more than a month now lol

[trail swift]

yeh

139858673

[quartz salmon]

cool ty

[trail swift]

don't mention my name 😆

damn is -52 hard? what rc?

[gilded salmon]

👀

[trail swift]

i'm not sure if i can clear -40 without a better ezio, this q5p + ezio + ldv stage just isn't going thru

[quartz salmon]

ah lmao i remeber that one

very annoying

[trail swift]

only rc403 tho, 1-2 will help

[dapper lance]

41-52 fcukin sucked

[trail swift]

does it have another manual raku -,-

[dapper lance]

no need manual raku if you have asolise iirc

but its a manual thoran vs brut

[quartz salmon]

im just bitching about -52 cause I dont liek thoran cheese and I havent tried to push campaign for like 6 weeks lol, I srtarted at rc 410 or some but have like 400k dust in bag, now im at 429, still doesnt make thoran cheese 5mins rng soo

[trail swift]

i have asolise but she's 262e18 lel

working on her

[dapper lance]

i think thats fine just need constant damage off ldv ult

its r1 thats hella annoying

[quartz salmon]

yeah its horrible

[trail swift]

i still don't know at what point her damage becomes decent

[quartz salmon]

you basically have to bet that zaph will tp exactly on thoran when he ults

easy

[trail swift]

ah yeh

thoran cheese zaph stages always suck

[dapper lance]

dude you have no idea how often khasos survived after perfect zaph timing

soooo annoying

[quartz salmon]

oh no

i havent even gotten to that point lmao

[dapper lance]

he's just a little weeny bit off and thoran cant hit him

[quartz salmon]

i legit told myself I would try 5 times every day and maybe i'll work in liek a year or so

[dapper lance]

ngl i spend a week, an hour before bedtime lol

[quartz salmon]

manual?

[dapper lance]

yes

[quartz salmon]

i really dotn wanna manual r1 lol

omg

[dapper lance]

dude

u have to

[trail swift]

they really need to add a manual-ult selection option

kinda dumb that they haven't

[quartz salmon]

lies

let me lie to myself

but i think its doable with brut force

[dapper lance]

i swear youll do better manual

[quartz salmon]

I hate that you are probably right

[dapper lance]

Let's blame Firefly

Someone ping him

[quartz salmon]

@sturdy elbow bish its all your fault

[dapper lance]

why 41-52-1 manual

[quartz salmon]

hes 43 now wtf

[dapper lance]

jk ily

[quartz salmon]

firefly stop being this good

be like us

be a pleb from time to time

[quartz salmon]

I sent it btw

[sturdy elbow]

[quartz salmon]

why 41-52-r1 manual

[sturdy elbow]

wdym im a pleb most times

i push when im not a pleb easy

[quartz salmon]

why coulnd you come up with a non manual clear and post it

[dapper lance]

non manual clear wouldve been e80 awakened all star formation

[quartz salmon]

except when you get 41% in cr and t50 every ts

[sturdy elbow]

non manual can work, probably takes a day

[dapper lance]

thats not what the picture said

[sturdy elbow]

cr numbers are up sooo...

[quartz salmon]

[dapper lance]

said 10-20 tries manual

[quartz salmon]

yeah i knwo I just remembered when you smoku raku and me were all c40 and you got 41% and we were like wtf hes too good

[sturdy elbow]

ignore the pain for you have overcome it

[quartz salmon]

I saw you got 24%

whale

[dapper lance]

u right

[sturdy elbow]

[quartz salmon]

btw firefly

do you maybe have a friendlist slot for me?

@sturdy elbow

[indigo quail]

@quartz salmon

[quartz salmon]

@indigo quail

[sturdy elbow]

I'll remember to add you when someone quits

[ebon flare]

Pure skill

[quartz salmon]

aight ty sensei

[ebon flare]

That’s how little I care about 2 teams

[trail swift]

is vip11 whalemode

[dapper lance]

I guess

[obtuse mauve]

Ofc, you can get up to 200 copies

[quartz salmon]

Nah vip11 is like 150$ I think? It’s low spender tbh. Vip12 is more intense ngl

[trail swift]

ah man this 41-40-2 stage sucks too. thoran cheese against a tali and talene

[quartz salmon]

Ig you are right

[trail swift]

tasi

[quartz salmon]

I cleared -40 quite easily I think? Can you see my clear?

[dapper lance]

Why is there a difference between whale and low spender

nvm

same reason theres a difference between kraken and whale ig

[quartz salmon]

Vip 11 is what I call vegan f2p

Vip12 is spender territory

[trail swift]

firefly forgot to mark his thoran cheese positions since it's a 4 hero team

i'm guessing 1-2-3-5

[quartz salmon]

I used mintj clears I think

He put pos on afkhelper iirc

[trail swift]

i'm hesitant on mintj cause his tree is gigantic

most of his clears probably won't work for me, sucktree

[quartz salmon]

I generally don’t have any trouble with mintjclears but yes he does have a big tree

[trail swift]

hmm wait i just checked his tree and it's pretty normal

musta been someone else that had a huge tree

[quartz salmon]

Maybe you saw his tree now, cause he whales some events I think and has a big tree now

[trail swift]

not marked either.. maybe it's just 1-2-3-4? but i assume she's pulling the eironn

but possibly the oden idk

i mean it's working and thoran is ulting them grouped in any case so i guess it's fine

[sturdy elbow]

It's 1,2,3,4 yeah

[trail swift]

that verdana looking font though 😆

thx

[quartz salmon]

Oh nvm it’s normal yea

[restive goblet]

None of the low power in-game formations have the same thoran team?

[trail swift]

prolly do, my formations are weird tho

it shows like 1 low rc then 500rc+

and he uses a weird team with two lv1 heroes in it for thoran

scarlet machine gun ulting with perfectly grouped allies+enemies right near her is a beautiful sight

[atomic ruin]

Is there any sort of recent pvp comp guide? I finished CR and have no clue where to use him!

[sacred notch]

#classic-chat message check this guy's bio, join the discord server

[dapper lance]

🐐

[dawn tinsel]

Add me to your friendlist waitlist please 🙂

[sturdy elbow]

[dapper lance]

big fan

[indigo quail]

[knotty verge]

@main abyss are you here

can I lend an emergency Haelus for twisted?

[polar dune]

Aight

46444820

[knotty verge]

I got zods but thank you very much

[proven hearth]

@still heron @gaunt marten Mortas or Olgath?

[trail swift]

morgath

[proven hearth]

[proven hearth]

[trail swift]

lol

nice

[gilded salmon]

Morgott?

[tepid bramble]

Morgoth?

[dusk tundra]

What should I change? And what should be used for 2 comp and 3 comp

[toxic prawn]

That Palmer looks kinda funny. Everyone just runs away from him

Those look fine though, there might be a better thane comp but I wouldn’t know

[gilded salmon]

👉🕙

scromble

[restive goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/running-correaturitmo-volveremosa-correr-runner-runners-gif-17045422

[toxic prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-cheat-race-shoot-gif-16406172

[toxic prawn]

Battle of the gods

[dry rapids]

damn

[sour jay]

Proof ainz is dead

[feral coral]

Shittt I forgot to swap ainz with swolise

[wise lion]

Yes, most skeletons are

[sour jay]

well, if you count that ainz is just a body being inhabited by a human transported into a video game, is he really dead

[dapper lance]

[restive goblet]

Talismane against Gb teams is so

the fear is kind of op lol

how does resist work for beasts cc anyway?

[low iron]

Beasts have their own IS, dependant on the Pet and it's Level. Which is then checked against the enemy's individual TY to see if it lands.

[steel belfry]

Any chance I can get some help with some team comps? I can make A.brutus, a.thane and GB, but im never really sure what to make after that. can post box if someone wants to take a look

[restive goblet]

really? Is that displayed in-game anywhere?

[low iron]

Yeah, it should be in the pet details, one moment.

[dapper lance]

post box and your current TS teams

[restive goblet]

Oh the little i button

[low iron]

Yeah, that's it.

[low iron]

So like, Souffle has 20 IS, but Owl has 19, Moth has 18 and Talismane has 21 at level 9.

[dapper lance]

LOL

@steel belfry use pic stitch

[steel belfry]

kk

[dapper lance]

just post current teams and "all" box for starters tho

[steel belfry]

Sorry it took so long, just made a imgur cause stitching dropped the quality too much. https://imgur.com/a/X98iv4p

[trail swift]

idk what to run for third team

[unique sentinel]

Can I get some help with teams? My boxes and teams I have made. Kinda want to swap my Lucy team

[trail swift]

alna scarlet cycle? :q

[dapper lance]

rowan ezizh twins scarlet haelus (might struggle due to frost debuff)

looks good imo

might play with positioning on brutus/dims

sec lemme check

[trail swift]

don't have haelus

o that wasn't for me

[steel belfry]

I can only show 4 teams cause of rank

think you need 6 tho?

[trail swift]

should i replace my ezizh or twins or rowan with my lol262e20 asolise?

[dapper lance]

brutus albedo ezio merlin joa

maybe albedo and merlin are switch im not sure

[dapper lance]

what your 4 team

[dapper lance]

whats team 4