treasure-scramble

[manic tusk]

Any suggestion for 4 teams?

[toxic prawn]

Eironn for grez if u have

[dapper lance]

[knotty verge]

what do you think about ignoring t4 stones from guild store and just purchase t2 stone chests until t2 reso gear. I am missing 10 t2

[dapper lance]

if you dont have any prios for t4 (basically carries and key support) i think thats fine

[knotty verge]

alright, currently no

[storm moth]

t36

[sour jay]

🐳

[storm moth]

we get 2 more rounds?

[sacred notch]

Yes

[storm moth]

gonna try some stuff then

[sacred notch]

Rewards are 5 and 10 day 2nd expo

[storm moth]

[sour jay]

this round buff is the worst y/n

[gilded salmon]

idk I kinda suck at all of them

[granite mason]

duel

[storm moth]

[storm moth]

accept friend req

[granite mason]

wait a sec lemme switch account

[storm moth]

[toxic prawn]

Tier 2 isn’t a priority, t3 is and rushing t2 resonance won’t help for t3. Keep getting t4 because eventually t5 will be a thing.

[storm moth]

WHAT

HOW

[granite mason]

vei op

[storm moth]

[granite mason]

[storm moth]

everyone exploded

[knotty verge]

how much gear do you want for t3 reso

[toxic prawn]

100

[storm moth]

i missclicked my balmer

[granite mason]

[trail swift]

does your ferael have t4

[storm moth]

i go

[granite mason]

ogey

[storm moth]

[storm moth]

nope

[knotty verge]

ooh

[indigo quail]

@twilit gulch online when

[restive goblet]

T32 with Scarlet at 12% WR

[indigo quail]

[twilit gulch]

U need merc?

[trail swift]

oh man my ferael got another furn. 8/9 now. another 4 months and he'll finally be 9f

[sour jay]

give my boy a red card please

after all he's done for you and you won't use one measily red card on him

[trail swift]

i just used them all getting a hero i don't even have yet to 9f 🤷‍♀️

[sour jay]

smort

[trail swift]

maybe next one doe

he's 208e30 ;q

[dusk tundra]

i think you’re gonna lose

nah eorin is an ez win rn for me i’m sure he’ll be the same for you

[indigo quail]

terrible comps and investment

Thats all I can say

[restive goblet]

Fell from 32 to 65 in the first 20 battles. 100 points behind already

[storm moth]

[indigo quail]

gib tips

[storm moth]

swolise dims

[indigo quail]

Real

[storm moth]

it is real look

[indigo quail]

gib yen

[storm moth]

[restive goblet]

57% with scarlet

how

also my Athane team that was 75% last round is 45% this round

[storm moth]

palmer

[granite mason]

op

[indigo quail]

scrumble is scary af

[indigo quail]

t78
@storm moth keep the old comp or use the new ones is better

[obtuse mauve]

37th

[obtuse mauve]

Gib final rates, pls

[storm moth]

t27

[storm moth]

new ones look better to me idk

[obtuse mauve]

Nice. Tyvm

[storm moth]

[still heron]

Scrombl

Who touched me

[indigo quail]

[still heron]

@storm moth stop it bis

[storm moth]

what i do

[indigo quail]

[lapis moth]

which pet are you using with wolise dims sir

[indigo quail]

madao

[lapis moth]

?

[indigo quail]

gib tips for teams

[lapis moth]

me nub

[indigo quail]

[lapis moth]

no abel = low rank

[still heron]

Whats Yennefer's min for ts ?

[lapis moth]

I think she can be good even at 000 in newer regions

[still heron]

Do u think im in a newer Region?

[lapis moth]

thought you were asking for someone else

203 probably

[still heron]

No engraving?

[lapis moth]

people get good wr at 203, she works

definitely good for 5 teams

[wheat pine]

Im using Yen 203 in this team. Im at R40

[obtuse mauve]

Did anyone use yen without her 3f? I suspect her frost magic can't reach enemy backline without it, so it would be the absolute minimum

[lapis moth]

her si makes her good support at least I think

You can't expect her to do much damage without engraving anyway

[storm moth]

rcl

[lapis moth]

thanks

[storm moth]

[sour jay]

hero gear is locked in when scramble starts right?

[obtuse mauve]

Should be yes

[obtuse mauve]

But there are claims of weird things happening when going from n to n+1 teams, so beware (i never saw it myself though)

[cold ridge]

She usually has e30 minimum

[still heron]

Lemme slap a E30 on her real quick

[cold ridge]

[wheat pine]

Guys Could you recommend me next e60/e30 heroes to build? I was thinking Mishka or Scarlet for e60 and JoA or LdV for e30

[lavish glade]

Me personally
E60 Walker

[quartz salmon]

Mishka e60 > Scarlet e60
LDV e36 > Nev > JoA > Anasta if 303/309 (303e30 usable in CR) > queen >= Yen
Idk where mulan fits in all of this

R1 is standard scarlet burst with Anasta instead of Estrilda

If someone has any tips

[storm moth]

why astar

[quartz salmon]

Cause Grez nub

And Jhawk is doing that so

[storm moth]

fair enough

[quartz salmon]

I’ll see how it does

I’m scared about luc cycle tho

Without Alna

[storm moth]

it cant be that bad

im gonna use cycle as my 5th team too

[quartz salmon]

You have haelus tho

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Haelusless + alnaless luc cycle is oof

Could do LDV Raku team

But that’s usually t6

[storm moth]

could do cycle as 6th

ig

[quartz salmon]

I’ll try luc first then switch to raku to compare

[storm moth]

i have no idea what to do for 6th and 7th lol

[quartz salmon]

For 6th tea you’ll do Raku LDV aswell no?

[storm moth]

probably

with talen zol

[indigo quail]

Why not astar cycle

[wheat pine]

Thank you so much!

[quartz salmon]

Wait

Actually

[indigo quail]

Not joking

I run that in the last buff

And i'll run it again

[quartz salmon]

I doubt it would work in my region tho

[indigo quail]

Lyon gives me that team - but idk how astar will be without alna

If she can fly then its over

[quartz salmon]

Hmm

Yeah without Alna fight will be over in 10s

[indigo quail]

If I had wokelene I'll run god comp

[storm moth]

god comp was with normal talene

[storm moth]

[flat flume]

Another woke

[storm moth]

finally

[flat flume]

Be prepared 💳

[indigo quail]

[storm moth]

already am

[gilded salmon]

I hope I have enough time cards

[indigo quail]

[indigo quail]

gib red furn

[flat flume]

Gib tot

[storm moth]

i hab 1 more in backpack

[still heron]

Gib

[storm moth]

[wheat pine]

Im just curious how much $ a month does it cost to have all this? 😱

[storm moth]

0

[indigo quail]

[flat flume]

[dapper lance]

hey its me your uncle please send cards thx

[storm moth]

you hab abel thats enuf

[dapper lance]

[trail swift]

i keep thinking of reasons to invest nev and come up with none

🤔

[dapper lance]

just look at her

[trail swift]

i don't have asolise and grez/mishka don't really use her in their teams

[dapper lance]

cutie pie

[trail swift]

she's cute for a tree ig

[dapper lance]

i love trees

[trail swift]

i'm more into twigs

😎

[storm moth]

oh btw

show cr rewards

[dapper lance]

fuck he remembered

[storm moth]

[trail swift]

oh i forgot to do cr again

[dapper lance]

sir i fell asleep

[storm moth]

[still heron]

[flat flume]

[dapper lance]

fml

[flat flume]

First round should end?

[still heron]

At reset

[storm moth]

[flat flume]

[sour jay]

Nice

[storm moth]

still t30

[dapper lance]

i think they missed a zero

transcriptions errors are common

[storm moth]

fr

it was 44% at 3 teams tho

skem

[wise lion]

I tried Eorin too and got 4%. watched a replay and it turned out he couldn't hit the enemies cuz he didnt have t4 or eng so his ACC sucked

as u can imagine, I ended up dropping him

[storm moth]

mine is e41

but t3 reso

[indigo quail]

[trail swift]

is hodgkin used in ts anywhere

kinda getting close to where i'd furn wishlist him but idk what he's even used in outside of rift

also after a full year of ferael in my wishlist he finally hit 9f ✅

[dusk tundra]

he can pop into gb comp when that gets cannibalized for 4-5th teams sometimes

[trail swift]

as like a tank-support type or does he do dmg invested

[dusk tundra]

he doesn’t damage

[restive goblet]

Mostly I see him in blizzard when people make two GB teams with grez and waden

[dusk tundra]

his flag is pretty valuable tho

yeah

[restive goblet]

and I see him with alna luc occasionally but idk if it’s good

[dusk tundra]

or with abrutus when he can be split into a mauler invade comp

[trail swift]

yeh i use him in invade and other stuff sometimes for his flag

he's just a20 atm

maybe i shud put him in this very dumb team 😆

[dusk tundra]

i was gonna say he’s in cr too but he hasn’t been in as much lately because he’s pretty tied to the morael/torne comp

i’d 100% put him in instead of kren tbh

[trail swift]

is a 309e30 kren rly that damn useless 😭

[dusk tundra]

when he’s competing with raku and abrutus

[trail swift]

i figured abrutus immediately pushing 3 enemiers into his bombs would make him ult fast and do bambams

• the enemy he pushes in at startup

[dusk tundra]

well, is that happening

[trail swift]

idk, that team is next rank

still at 4team

[dusk tundra]

eh could be fun, might as well see but def keep an eye on battle logs

[trail swift]

i have a 205 anasta as well but not much use. she doesn't have gear yet, and not engraving until 9f

yeh i'll replace kren with a support like pirate or (mortas?) if he sux

[flat flume]

9 more battle's

[lapis moth]

[dusk tundra]

meanwhile, i did NOT unfuck scarlet comp

in fact, it got fucked worse lmao

[trail swift]

i put her in that mishka raine horse lyca comp every time now. one of my more consistent teamz

yeh basically that but rowan=horse

[flat flume]

Yeah tried Rowan this time

[dusk tundra]

yeah lol that’s about what i was doing before but remembered hendricks had been doing alright at some point so wanted to experiment

[trail swift]

someday i wanna e3x estrilda just for that but that's a far way off

sitting on 8000+ shards atm waiting on ldv and palmer still, then doing anasta...then yenn or astar i think

[dusk tundra]

prob shouldn’t have done weird shit on day 5 r2 tho

i could’ve popped into t100 randomly

[flat flume]

Astar rather then yen. Or Joan

[trail swift]

joan is 203e30

astar still at 0f but wishlisted now. i really do wanna get her invested

also put joan back in wishlist. seems worth 9f

[flat flume]

Yeah good everywhere

[trail swift]

what do people usually take astar do? just e30 or e4x?

/ e3x

[flat flume]

E41

But can stay at e30

[dusk tundra]

[trail swift]

hmm where does the 41 go into? +5 from attk but she doesn't have haste or any great looking minor nodes

heal? :q

[dusk tundra]

crit and cda

[trail swift]

ahh ok

[dusk tundra]

oh and atk so e44

[trail swift]

that's e41

[dusk tundra]

it’s a big node

[trail swift]

i mean attk+crit+cda is 41. she takes heal too or somethin?

[flat flume]

No

[dusk tundra]

no

[trail swift]

[flat flume]

E41 atk,crit,cda

[trail swift]

oki

309e41.. long ways off :q

[dusk tundra]

then how is mine e41 without having done the big atk node yet

[trail swift]

check what you have

maybe you oopsied lol

attk is 5, but crit/cda are minors (3)

[dusk tundra]

oh i def oopsd lol why’d i put stuff into random nodes like that i don’t remember doing that at all

[trail swift]

may as well take her to e60 now 😎

[dusk tundra]

i mean eventually she’ll be e60 anyways but still kinda weird

[storm moth]

show backpack you whel

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

[gilded salmon]

[storm moth]

you gonna get some more?

[lapis moth]

not from yuexi tho

[gilded salmon]

how long did it take to find out abelinda was op

was quite a few weeks iirc

[dusk tundra]

waw looks like mine but the number of cards is 0 and the abel copies is also 0

[trail swift]

200 more pls

[lapis moth]

if you're thinking of pulling I'd wait for the last few days of the ship

[storm moth]

im thinking of pulling

[lapis moth]

to see how the new one performs in test server

[storm moth]

but that new girl

[trail swift]

did they announce next awk yet

[storm moth]

yes they did

[trail swift]

who issit

[storm moth]

i mean

not announce

just leaks

[wise lion]

Sonja is borderline unplayable in TS without 9f, Hendrik sucks in non-Whane comps, and Palmer doesn't deserve to be in p4 here bc only Scar needs the atk buff and Scar uses p4 better to draw more energy.
also Scar benefits from having summons to drain from which is why mish is a common frontliner in that comp

[dusk tundra]

yup, sucks to suck basically

anywho time to slap all my leftover dims into a 6th comp when we get to that

[storm moth]

noo t55 on rakus account

[dapper lance]

did myself a little sneaky sneak for rewards day

[storm moth]

stop with the poe whale sir

also t20

[dapper lance]

i forgot to change t5 to belinda but i guess i didn't have to worry

[storm moth]

wait you have 2 woke?

i thought you had more

[dapper lance]

wtf who said

just solise and now belinda (though only 300e30)

building my ||harem||

[storm moth]

[dapper lance]

[storm moth]

nobody did

i just thought so lel

[dapper lance]

r41 freegion

t50 with solise only

she carries me hard

[storm moth]

swolise op can confirm

[dapper lance]

building brutus next to join my ||harem||

equal opportunity employer

[storm moth]

[lapis moth]

get waden

or new woke maybe

don't get wutus

[dapper lance]

i thought it was solise belinda brutus for best? I used my leftover cards to get him M

should I pivot?

[lapis moth]

💀

[storm moth]

ig if hes M you can finish

[lapis moth]

yeah just finish

[dapper lance]

fml

[storm moth]

hes not bad

[lapis moth]

prioritize CR wokes

[storm moth]

but new woke/baden probably much better

[lapis moth]

especially if you get t50

[dapper lance]

i thought brutus was a CR woke with more pvp viability than baden

[storm moth]

wutus does like 1b for me in cr

[lapis moth]

wutus will be replaced as soon as something better comes out

[wise lion]

rip. I hit 1% at 46 fights in

fell back to 2% by 50

[lapis moth]

[dapper lance]

would you say viethael nevessary for ts; after finish zol i was thinking going full send on awakes

[lapis moth]

wym

it's either talene or vei after zol

I am not sure what's better either

[dapper lance]

hmm

[storm moth]

vei cheaper

[lapis moth]

wokes are wokes, if you can get them do it

[storm moth]

go vei

[dapper lance]

dam this game expensive lmao

[lapis moth]

vei cheaper but talene is irreplacable in cr

[storm moth]

yeah sure

[restive goblet]

Fell from 32 one round to 75 the next and then climbed back to t43

From 30 to 80 is all very similar enemy teams

[lapis moth]

I am probably going to reduce my spending also soon, maybe after talene

just get those core heroes that are used in ts/cr/rift

[dapper lance]

i was going to reduce spending after zol

im sg him

[lapis moth]

after that you should be good just have some rss saved up for the broken things that come out

[dapper lance]

can i dm you box and you tell me what im missing for cr? or i can post here idc

[lapis moth]

sure tho you can see for yourself btw

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aH5pBUZxm5PSQ1XIBWgR7cVGtAuEKKOKV4_NC2Kd8HQ/edit#gid=951351332

[dapper lance]

god bless

[lapis moth]

check the CR hero usage tab

high % means used more

[dapper lance]

seeing saurus there infuriates me

i foddered a few in early game

also thank you for link

brutus is pretty high on there

[lapis moth]

yeah but his rounds are usually low damage

[dapper lance]

fair thanks i'll take in depth look after work

@dapper lance for later lol

[lapis moth]

I foddered a few saurus as well to rush stuff

as long as you can get him to 1* at least should be good

[dapper lance]

thanks again

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

madao you nub

[lapis moth]

[dapper lance]

rude

[storm moth]

[dapper lance]

[lapis moth]

evo t6 damn

wish I was r39

[feral coral]

💸

[obtuse mauve]

39th. Who needs a 5th team....

[lapis moth]

did you try swapping zol and arthur maybe

[obtuse mauve]

No, only reached 5 teams in the last round. I'll restart experiments again now

[lapis moth]

oh wait you're not using estrilda

just use estrilda with scarlet zol with ldv instead of arthur

should probably be better

[obtuse mauve]

True. But my zol + scarlet is so beautiful, it's a shame to split them

[lapis moth]

you rather have a 3% team 💀

[obtuse mauve]

Maybe

But I'll try a bunch of stuff before resorting to standard

[lapis moth]

also I'd probably do wutus invade instead

and maybe grez with gbs

raku ldv is meh in 5 teams

[dusk tundra]

swap to ainz dims and abrutus invade at 5 teams or split luc from gb to give her cycle at 5

[restive goblet]

Why are they releasing another awakened mage so soon 😭

Where’s the warrior love

[gilded salmon]

yeah 3 mages is dumb

[sour jay]

Mage go boom

Look cool

[gilded salmon]

meh, the warrior and rangers are the coolest looking ones of the bunch imo

[sour jay]

Talene is the coolest imo even post nerf

Baden is meh to me but thane is neat

[dusk tundra]

wdym nerf?

[gilded salmon]

I think they removed her jiggle at some point or something, idk ask the simps

[sour jay]

I like men but you had to appreciate the jiggle

[dusk tundra]

oh rite i had ult animations off from the start lul

[carmine shale]

Wdym, they announce the next awakened already?

[gilded salmon]

idk if announced is the right word but look at #afk-lore

[carmine shale]

Interesting, that's quite a long piece of lore.

[restive goblet]

The woman in green is actually a hypo phoenix or something like that

[rocky meadow]

O no she's OP D:

[dapper lance]

Luc and Talene had a baby

[knotty verge]

just from reading it sounds like she is becoming the most op hero

[sour jay]

don't worry there's another woke coming 2 months after

[knotty verge]

I wouldn’t care if we had like twice our tot income and it is possible to build one awk heroes when every third comes out

🥹

[sour jay]

1/3 would be much better than 1/6

[knotty verge]

it is time for an awakened dim everyone can get for free but with going all in on coins hahaha

that would be actually cool and I would gladly spend my chall coins on it

Special myth characters like poseion, zeus or adam lmaoo

[polar dune]

Wait fk bur i just spend 600 dim emblem 35ing yen and geralt

[knotty verge]

risky moves

[sour jay]

oh no what are you gonna do now 💳

[knotty verge]

well dim heroes having an awk form could be possible ngl

but not as likely since they already finished a whole cycle of other factions

[sour jay]

kid naruto and baryon mode naruto as awakened

[knotty verge]

also they just cant reuse heroes, that would be a bit weird

yeah like naruto normal form and 9tail naruto

imagine afk arena becoming a naruto game just bc they need awk heroes

[sour jay]

thing is you can't use a char and it's woke so like... getting both feels bad.

[polar dune]

Prob worst way to spend for emblems

Considering lab coin is just paper weight now

[knotty verge]

Ah I wanted to ask

are there any cr heroes that are good for TS too? starting from midgame pov

[polar dune]

Yes

Anasta

[knotty verge]

queen or hodge are kinda bad right

[polar dune]

Just going off last season CR - you can use midgame perspective

You can literally use every hero in cr for pvp

[knotty verge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/870441771082080308/1082072619496521788/file.jpg

[polar dune]

Except maybe Khaz

Whale bis not the one tartaros post

[knotty verge]

so from this point on it is just building for CR and whenever I get an important hero like zolrath vei cruke I should build him for TS

[polar dune]

I don’t look at that at all

[polar dune]

Zolrath is a new enigma hero

You can make a functioning burst without him

Charm only need him sometimes cus holy dmg goes thru immunity

[knotty verge]

yeah sure he was just an example, it will take forever to finish him anyway

[polar dune]

His value is just slight delay so enemy don’t get opener atm

[knotty verge]

but I am kinda lost cause it is kinda hopeless to build for CR now but I am not sure if it is good to go full PvP now

or full Trift etc

[polar dune]

Trift you can use same hero

Its just making a functioning comp

Which consist of at least 1 dps 1 buffer 1 healer 1 shielder

Last is optional tank or whatever

[knotty verge]

hmm

[polar dune]

Trift is just an attrition fight

Every stage is an imposed challenge

[knotty verge]

I wonder if I should try going for warrior route instead of mage next season

[polar dune]

People will naturally have mage level up a lot more

Bc celerity has an upfront cost

[knotty verge]

ah yeah I always forget about that tree

[polar dune]

While mage can function a lot better while still dishing out high dps

All they need is a little bit of protection

[knotty verge]

I would be so happy with a functioning haelus

that could boost me in many gamemodes

But I also want to gaze for vei hahaha

[indigo quail]

ey im in t100 tyvm

[dawn tinsel]

What's a "functioning" Haelus btw? Mine's L+ and I have enough diamonds to get him to M, just deciding if I want to HCP Tamrus or Edwin first.

How usable is Haelus at M+20/30 vs additional breakpoints 3f/9f/e30/e60?

[knotty verge]

m isn’t functioning. I guess budget is just 1star and 1* is good

but I have no idea about specific breakpoints for furn or si

[knotty verge]

I wouldnt hcp edwin or tamrus

Edwin seems way better to hcp but his ship still lasts some time, tamrus is just too investment heavy

tamrus is mostly for cr or high investment TS/campaign

so yeah imo healus/vei are higher prio than hcping anyone

[dawn tinsel]

Heard Tamrus can work in CR at M+20, but needs 209 to be optimal. Not sure about TS, but would guess 209 min. I'll probably throw him on furn wl for the long term. No idea about Edwin investments / usage though.

[knotty verge]

edwin is really good for cr or ts teams but I wouldn't say high prio

but my knowledge is very limited haha

[dawn tinsel]

To be fair, I think he's too new for anyone to be sure at this point.

[knotty verge]

he already got his spot in waden cr teams tho

[dawn tinsel]

If Haelus M isn't useful, then I'm in no hurry to use my diamonds. Will save till close to the end of my next HCP timer and take a call then.

[knotty verge]

yeah sounds reasonable, rn I just wanna rush to get my last mortas copy and then just chill for a long time to save up some gazers

[indigo quail]

Hes used in both ts cr and campaign also, why is his prio so low?

[indigo quail]

309

[knotty verge]

From what I've heard you kinda build him for CR and further than that he is just soo expensive for no to little usage

[indigo quail]

little? Thats litterally everything

[knotty verge]

if he becomes a staple in campaign teams it might change

[indigo quail]

You can gaze chimera for pvp and cr but you cant hcp and build tamrus when he's used in both ts and cr too

[knotty verge]

well at the time you gaze chim it is likely you can also build tamrus

I was told I should finish M30 Saurus -> Eorin -> Lorsan before even building tamrus

[indigo quail]

such clown moves

[knotty verge]

not really "finish" just ascend

hahaha

[indigo quail]

Can you use them in both ts and cr

[knotty verge]

a 309e60 eorin might be usable for TS

but they are important for CR / power cap / multi towers

[indigo quail]

usable for a sub of wutus with high rng

when tamrus is bis

[knotty verge]

No idea about that but I would prefer to build tamrus sooner too tbh

[indigo quail]

clown reasons

[knotty verge]

I am still at 0 copies tho hahaha

so it might take a few months to even have enough copies

hcping is definitely not worth tho

[knotty verge]

CR isn't anything we should focus until mayor changes to the reward system

[indigo quail]

you can hcp neva but you cant hcp tamrus

[knotty verge]

neva is good for twisted realm, trift, campaign and cr

[indigo quail]

who used in tr

use wolise

[knotty verge]

L wolise sucks

[wise lion]

why is 209 optimal for cr

[indigo quail]

Better than neva 309e60

[knotty verge]

neva 203 is min inv, 309e30 good enough

[indigo quail]

L wolise better im saying
And her min is 309

3f and si20 is meh

[dawn tinsel]

I had no basis beyond fuzzy recollections of other peoples' conversations - would never give this as a confident recommendation to others 🙂 From what I remember, at M+20 he gets some survivability and does basic job of grouping + CC, but needs 9f for team buff. Could be completely off though.

[knotty verge]

but why would you prefer to build a hero for cr or late game campaign instead of heroes for twisted realm, trift and also cr

with even smaller investments

[indigo quail]

309 same with both

Smaller where

[knotty verge]

show me tamrus trift teams

or tamrus twisted realm teams

[wise lion]

9f makes sense. sig20 is pretty bad, tho

[indigo quail]

Tamrus isnt late game campaign - hes used when you want to group enemies, i used him in a cheese thoran once

[indigo quail]

Who used neva in tr? Just merc wolise

[knotty verge]

thoran cheese stages are the least rng stages anyway, no need to improve it

[indigo quail]

And i used him in luc invade for grouping enemies

[wise lion]

I use Nev for Dune (meta for my floor) and for Kane (need to merc waden)

[knotty verge]

thoran 9f isn't a furn thing anymore for newer players, 3f is enough. I got mine to 8f and only finish cause I hate it at 8f

[indigo quail]

in my lower floor they use wolise

[knotty verge]

neva > swolise in current twisted realm. also when you have a built neva you can merc fed twins

[knotty verge]

you could still use neva and get higher results

[indigo quail]

Neva buffs for summoner mainly( for waden)
When you run scarlet wolise >>>> nub

[knotty verge]

I tried both and grez scarlet ezizh neva twins work waay better than swolise

not sure if it was ezizh or mortas tho

[lime zinc]

Nev's used on Dune because she can cleanse the healblock

[indigo quail]

[knotty verge]

but yeah even if u want to build tamrus and you don't need neva you are better off building other heroes instead

like saurus si30

[indigo quail]

For what

[knotty verge]

CR + bossing

[indigo quail]

cr?

[lime zinc]

I haven't used Saurus for anything in months, poor guy fell off so hard

[indigo quail]

When tamrus is used in both cr ts? And rift is you run war?

[dawn tinsel]

Hmm I see - will do some more research before I invest into him. Would you say 9f is min for him?

[knotty verge]

for rosters with not that many investments yet he is still used every single cr

[lime zinc]

Oh I still use Saurus in fac tower

[indigo quail]

You are talking about heroes which is used in a few modes when tamrus is litterally used everywhere - you just dont want to build him for some reasons i cant understand why

[lime zinc]

Dw my CR ranking is trash too

[knotty verge]

ofc zod is way way far ahead

[lime zinc]

He's literally meta in a couple CRs

[indigo quail]

@proven hearth is tamrus good for cr

[proven hearth]

Maybe… 🤷‍♀️

[indigo quail]

[knotty verge]

tamrus won't help much in your case anyway if you don't have heroes like haelus, queen, hodge and need awk mercs etc just yet

cr is a mode without hope until changes

[sour jay]

Pray for regional cr

[lime zinc]

There'll never be hope for CR

Regional CR wouldn't even fix it

[knotty verge]

@indigo quail if u wanna build something huge go build your 309e60 t4 anasta right now

[proven hearth]

WHERE IS GABE?

[knotty verge]

for ts or cr

[gilded salmon]

wtf

[lime zinc]

imagine not already having that Anasta built

[indigo quail]

[knotty verge]

gabe is busy nursing people and being a nice guy talking about the new hypo embla

[indigo quail]

Anasta is in beginner wl im not talking about him

But tamrus isnt, the question is should you build him? And you said no and build saurus eorin lorsan

cool

[proven hearth]

Yeah, not here

[lime zinc]

Lorsan hard carried my R4 last CR for my shit rank at least

Somehow had better results with my own Lorsan than an AwSol merc

[indigo quail]

rng

[knotty verge]

@opal bone can we have some mingles opinion on building tamrus for min investments over lorsan eorin etc

[indigo quail]

@granite mason @storm moth @quartz salmon confirm

[knotty verge]

u might just go 309e60 trez for ts

[wise lion]

most likely, yeah

[gilded salmon]

What order should I si20 Raine, Silas and Ferael

[sour jay]

raine is fine at +10 I thought

[knotty verge]

ferael, silas >>> raine

[gilded salmon]

🫡

[knotty verge]

yeah

[indigo quail]

where deadbeatdevil

[gilded salmon]

But I need that shield for ice debuff

[knotty verge]

building si20 raine for ice debuff is a pro move

I want that si20 too but so many heroes need si20 it has to wait a bit hahaha

[restive goblet]

What about SI 30 on tamrus? If you’re going for 9f, that doubles the buff

[indigo quail]

si20 for ice = building saurus lorsan eorin over tamrus

[gilded salmon]

I don't even have the mats for si10 silas yet

[gilded salmon]

hmm

[indigo quail]

a must

[knotty verge]

I did some quick CR guide research and I just see tamrus in Morael comps, Whale BIS or Kraken options

while other wilders are waay better to fit into teams

maybe he is still in the process of finding good usages, that might be a reason to just wait a bit more for better info

[restive goblet]

He’s used with Abelinda isn’t he?

[knotty verge]

yes

fully built abel iirc

[indigo quail]

The fact that hes bis it means that hes the meta nowadays
You can use him as a sub too
And abel L can work

[knotty verge]

he is whale BIS

[polar dune]

He is everywhere

Just need to look harder

[knotty verge]

he is a sub option but together with heroes like JoA or queen

[indigo quail]

Have you join any cr boxes besides looking for ts guide from tartaros

He can work at lower investment( lv12 winged, L bel or lv18 green ball)

[knotty verge]

just build your tamrus and tell us how he performs

[polar dune]

Tartaros struggle with their own ts

How the fk would they be able to make guide

TS is so dynamic that there is no one comp fit in every region sadly

Just need to go with intuition

Guide would probably be skeptical

And very bias to the maker region

[jagged steppe]

Abelinda L as support on a scarleth cycle good idea?

Am on 5 teams now but pretty much want to improve that last one.. not sure its even worth to do cycle

Or just run it on estrilda and E ezizh or M palmer

[granite mason]

TAMRUS OP

[jagged steppe]

This is what i got left btw, can flex the Mishka too

[obtuse mauve]

You could go with standard scarlet comp: mishka, estrilda, Rayne, scarlet, lyca

[jagged steppe]

Yea ill do that

[dapper lance]

what is anasta min?

209?

[storm moth]

[polar dune]

309

[dapper lance]

thanks

[quartz salmon]

For TS yeah 309, for cr you can get away with 303e30

[granite mason]

astar luc and alna grez

trust

[granite mason]

@knotty verge change si30 prio when

[quartz salmon]

I was gonna try that but still

Hmmm

[quartz salmon]

Grez or hodg

Tho

[granite mason]

grez

[quartz salmon]

and what pet for luc

I put molten lava

[dusk tundra]

owl

usually what i do for every luc comp tbh

[lapis moth]

[olive moat]

skill issue

I would simply open olgath every hand

[dense lava]

Sonja + Nevanthi. That’s dirty.

[granite mason]

decent

[granite mason]

fatty boy if 9+, else phantasmoth cuz it has acc

[quartz salmon]

Heh

Fatty lvl 6 and I still donc have phantasmoth

[gaunt marten]

Oh how the mighty fall

[granite mason]

@gaunt marten

[gaunt marten]

Ow why touch me so hard

Hythlo dmd me while iw as at work lmao

She just couldn't wait for my biweekly drift through ts chat

[opal remnant]

grez or Abaden?

[lapis moth]

Is this really a question?

[obtuse mauve]

Maybe it's L bawden, who knows

[lapis moth]

His box is there lol

[obtuse mauve]

Yeah, but it may be a trick

[lapis moth]

[dusk tundra]

Wtf pog

[lapis moth]

[indigo quail]

[rustic oxide]

Good day! Trying to make some improvements to my TS teams. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you! (Apologies for the scuffed hero box)

[indigo quail]

Isnt haelus useless at L+

[rustic oxide]

I just copied this off someone who actually had a 1* Haelus

[indigo quail]

This is clown team also, i dont see any dps

[rustic oxide]

Subbed this in for now:

[indigo quail]

T6 ldv raku t7 neva wolise t1 scarlet mishka

Eorin without high investment wont do anything tbh

[rustic oxide]

For T6 is this what you meant?

[indigo quail]

Raku mid

Geralt for skreg

[knotty verge]

gib suggestions

[rustic oxide]

For T7 does something like this make sense?

[indigo quail]

Cycle

[rustic oxide]

not sure what that means apologies

[indigo quail]

Cycle is twins rowan ezizh + 2 heroes

In this case is wolise neva

[rustic oxide]

Currently using twins and Rowan for this:

[indigo quail]

Use est and hendrik

[rustic oxide]

For the team I sent above?

[indigo quail]

[quartz salmon]

[indigo quail]

Est where rowan at, move scarlet to 4 and hendrik 5

[quartz salmon]

This is burst + cycle combined kinda

[indigo quail]

Or take lyca from 5p and put lorsan in there

[rustic oxide]

Is this better?

[indigo quail]

Wolise rowan front neva mid

[quartz salmon]

Scarlet needs to be pos4

[indigo quail]

Scarlet 4 hend 5 est 1

[quartz salmon]

^

Wait

Hendrik no 3f

[indigo quail]

[quartz salmon]

He doesn’t do shit

[rustic oxide]

just got him to A earlier

[indigo quail]

[quartz salmon]

Do you have Raine/Lyca available?

[indigo quail]

Use sonja

Or lyca

[rustic oxide]

I can pull Lyca from 5p

and have raine at 3f too

[quartz salmon]

Where is raine?

[indigo quail]

ye use lyca

[rustic oxide]

don't have her used atm

[quartz salmon]

Then she goes instead of Hendricks

[indigo quail]

His scarlet has lower cbr than mishka

no raine

[quartz salmon]

Oh

Well spotted

[rustic oxide]

a bit confused sorry, could ya'll clarify?

[quartz salmon]

Mishka est Palmer Scarlet lyca

Your Wolise team is fine

And 5p use Raine ig

How is your 5p actually?

[indigo quail]

Or lorsan

[quartz salmon]

And this is because Raine gives initial buff to highest cbr, so not useful if mishka is highest

[rustic oxide]

current 5p since I pulled out Lyca, stick Raine in?

[quartz salmon]

Lorsan is probably better

[lilac bobcat]

This is ancient

I am looking at a relic

[quartz salmon]

It’s for t7 and he is in new region

But yes

[indigo quail]

Luc backline better imo

[lilac bobcat]

Oh ok

Front chicken

[rustic oxide]

Yup I'm in R41

[lilac bobcat]

Luc backline

Use lyca

[indigo quail]

[lilac bobcat]

Not lorsan

[quartz salmon]

She’s in scarlet burst

[rustic oxide]

I used Lyca for this

[lilac bobcat]

Oh use hodgkin

[indigo quail]

[lilac bobcat]

Flag has bonus haste

[quartz salmon]

Probably not A

[indigo quail]

[lilac bobcat]

Just for the flag

Even e works

[quartz salmon]

For speed yeah

[lilac bobcat]

[quartz salmon]

Sad use for hodg tho

[rustic oxide]

this one?

[lilac bobcat]

Yea

[quartz salmon]

[lilac bobcat]

Flag waifu op

[indigo quail]

[rustic oxide]

No JOA just yet, still at 15/60 since I prio Arthur before guide got updated

[lilac bobcat]

I mean of it's new someone won't have an athalia targeting pos 3

Should be good

Or just change pos 3 with 5

Same same but safer

[rustic oxide]

Updated team setup. Any other things I could improve?

[lilac bobcat]

Pos 3 is athalia's fav spot

Should be good

[rustic oxide]

Moved my luc to 5

[lilac bobcat]

[rustic oxide]

I'll update my lower teams too. Thank you all for the help!

[lilac bobcat]

No merlin?

[rustic oxide]

not yet 30/60 almost 45/60 but already have 9f waiting

[quartz salmon]

300 dims emblem?

[lilac bobcat]

Ok

[rustic oxide]

not yet since working on JOA too but I'll try and save up

[lilac bobcat]

Joan can be si20

[quartz salmon]

Merlin +30 >>

[lilac bobcat]

Joan si30 is just additional dr

[quartz salmon]

Yeah JoA 203e30 is a nice spot for her for a long time

[rustic oxide]

I meant saving up for JOA stones

[lilac bobcat]

Oohh I see

[quartz salmon]

Oh

[rustic oxide]

Should I move the teams ya'll helped me setup higher in my lower teams? Or just keep them at their respective team numbers?

[indigo quail]

It doesnt matter

[rustic oxide]

got it, I'll update them for now then. Thank you!

[nimble escarp]

yo, just ascended vei, idk what to do with him. yes this one doesnt work ❌ . any suggestion for a slot somewhere in my comps ?

top90 r31 right now

[quartz salmon]

Do I switch Anasta to Whane?

[quartz salmon]

Should I really trust you

Grez un gbs seems nub

But astar in luc cycle gud

But luc cycle sucks anyways so not sure if that’s a good idea

[granite mason]

yes
or raku in gbs, 2nd dps

alna raku

just test it smh

[granite mason]

keep the old ones which is ainz -> scar -> oden -> silas

[knotty verge]

ainz doesnt need si30 that early 209 is totally fine

a fed scarlet would be better

[granite mason]

what is this then?

[knotty verge]

209

[granite mason]

read

[knotty verge]

swap ainz with scarlet

[granite mason]

?

Changing opinions quicker than how i change my gf

[knotty verge]

thats still true, but if u get a fed scarlet a few months earlier it still applies

also it was for twisted realm bossing mostly

[granite mason]

you just dont have ur own opinion

[knotty verge]

I do

[granite mason]

now you are refusing what you have said in that moment

[knotty verge]

how do you want to use ainz early game

[granite mason]

Scarlet si30 early isnt helpful for twisted realm

[knotty verge]

if you want to clear events like MV or other balloon stuff just merc a fewd ainz

[granite mason]

you still want to merc better ones

[knotty verge]

yeah cause twisted is not the main reason

[granite mason]

209 ainz will never deal enough damage in campaign nor rift

[knotty verge]

a fed scarlet can help way better in campaign early since ainz does shit anyway

so you basically say put in more investments into ainz cause he sucks

you can just ignore him for campaign until later team multis

[granite mason]

check afkhelper
ainz never does shit, HES THE MAIN DPS while scarlet is a sub in raku charm

Do you know the comp in campaign for scarlet?

raku charm or alna gbs

you just sucks and ignore the fact that he's helping a lot early game

[obtuse mauve]

Ainz sucks in this TS debuff

[granite mason]

in ice, then what?

[obtuse mauve]

Ainz good in ice

[granite mason]

in campaign, then what?

[obtuse mauve]

Idk about campaign. Early game changed a lot. Ainz costs a lot to setup,maybe there are cheaper alternatives nowadays

[granite mason]

rift, do you think 209 ainz can do enough damage to kill enemies?

cheaper, yeah. Abel cycle, alna waden, whane, wutus framton, thoran, just build that and you dont need ainz

[obtuse mauve]

Rift is weird, but usually when ainz cast the 3rd time it's a bad sign

[knotty verge]

are you just speaking of whale early gamers now

Trift for early game players sucks anyway and it isn’t just “build x and you are good”

[granite mason]

show me cheaper alternatives than ainz

[knotty verge]

do you think an ainz trift team without ldv or merlin is good?

iirc I didnt even use ainz early trift since he sucked that bad even with 309

[granite mason]

late game ainz is used in cr - i dont see why people hating him too much

[granite mason]

you sucks and dont have the right team or pets or choosing the enemies to fight with

[obtuse mauve]

No. I qualified my argument, I'm not sure, it was a maybe

[granite mason]

Try to use him fighting against burst/ ultra healing and he sucks ofc

[granite mason]

then you dont have any

[knotty verge]

I think lyon is too angry to speak with

[granite mason]

I dont

[sour jay]

This dude really loves ainz

[obtuse mauve]

You are being trollish. I won't spend energy here

[granite mason]

Seeing people hating ainz too much while hes very useful makes me sad

[knotty verge]

I will study now, maybe I am later in here again

[granite mason]

You cant just say an example to help your idea

[knotty verge]

si20 vs si30 early game is so minimal

he just sucks

[dusk tundra]

yeah of course, no reason ainz cant hit 500+ floors

[knotty verge]

sry we were talking about a way earlier trift stage

[dusk tundra]

oh discord autoscroll fail

[knotty verge]

np

[granite mason]

Ainz is like daimon 2.0 early with 309e41 investment

cant ignore him

[knotty verge]

it is just one si30 spot postponed, not dropped off

[granite mason]

I miss the old guide

[gilded salmon]

isn't ainz si30 more damage

not insta cast

[granite mason]

and anakin
good guides and good times there

[granite mason]

you wont do enough damage with 209 ainz unless ur deficit is low

[knotty verge]

then go build si30 daimon or si30 arthur

[sour jay]

Some say the same about 309 ainz

[granite mason]

no

[dusk tundra]

+30 on daimon is fine later on for cr tho

and trift

[knotty verge]

you are free to change or update the guides. I thought it is way too outdated so I did research about heroes the best I could and also asked for other opinions on it. If it sucks I can’t help it

Then just delete it and make a better one

[granite mason]

if you want to make a new one in ur opinion

just delete ainz

and tell people to garrison albedo and queen early

[knotty verge]

no I love ainz and he is better to build early than any later stage

[granite mason]

because you said ainz sucks

[knotty verge]

ainz sucks early game

yea

thats why he isnt that early in the prio

[dusk tundra]

nah you helped with the current +30 guide? that’s fine

[granite mason]

he doesnt

he just dont have enough investment

[sour jay]

this argument is sure going in circles

[dusk tundra]

do you guys define early game as pre ch30 or pre ch40

[knotty verge]

you even said make a guide that doesnt change all the time, so as long as it is just a discussion about one spot to the left or right it is not a prio to update anyway

more like keep it in mind and when it updates because of another reason a point to reconsider

[knotty verge]

it is about the first 5 SI30 so prob until ch34 or so

maybe less than ch34

[flat flume]

Ainz definitely top 5

[sour jay]

dudes really getting heated about ainz 5th or 6th?

[gilded salmon]

I was planning on going ainz 4th cause my scarlet isn't built at all

and I have a strong dim team

[dusk tundra]

i mean ainz was literally my second hero i got to A on my main so i’m prob biased to starting strong with a dim team and gb team

[sour jay]

where's your luc

[gilded salmon]

I have luc built

well missing furn still but

[sour jay]

then albedo 4th? or did you skip raku or something. albedo 30 does more for ainz than his own

[gilded salmon]

oh yeah 5th idk how to count

hehe

[still heron]

Scrombl

[knotty verge]

is your ainz 209 and unplayable at your current stage?

[knotty verge]

ooh, gz on the promotion

[gilded salmon]

I'm using Ainz as one of my teams like half the time

[knotty verge]

but it works, right?

[still heron]

Im cs for more then a year

[gilded salmon]

yeah but what if it worked better

[knotty verge]

the discussion was about ainz 209 is shit and doesn’t do anything

[gilded salmon]

My problem right now is dim links, can't run 5 pull and dims at the same time

[knotty verge]

oh

[gilded salmon]

definitely not true yeah

[knotty verge]

yeah bedo si30 is more important than either ainz or scarlet

[indigo quail]

maybe

[gilded salmon]

I'm like the #1 advocate for Ainz even earlier than that, just not in campaign

[knotty verge]

it is so hard since campaign early is so important for good field of star upgrades

[indigo quail]

Talking about ainz damage - I remember 37-36 I have to switch owl for ainz because he cant do enough damage , maybe my deficit is too high for ainz to shine

[knotty verge]

if u dont go raku 30 you need another team for 2nd multi and luc is just important

[knotty verge]

yeah ainz starts to fall off in your stages, it was my most high rng team but it still shines in other modes

[sour jay]

scarlet 20 is very sad

[indigo quail]

Scarlet built early wont do anything anyways maybe ts
Cant fit her in any campaign teams

[knotty verge]

also this guide is a general guideline for most players in general. For specific rosters there is probably always a better choice

like if khaz is having a strong dim team and no scarlet at all just do ainz first

[flat flume]

Ainz still ok in ch40

[knotty verge]

if u got an e60 ainz I couldnt copy your team prob or it is really high rng

[indigo quail]

btw should I engrave luc before wolise

[flat flume]

E41

[knotty verge]

lets hope he stays great even further

[indigo quail]

Cant copy firefly or hybridxy formation now because my luc cant deal enough damage - my deficit is higher than them

[flat flume]

Further his not used anymore i think

[sour jay]

ye ts, trift, and to merc something else for twisted realm

[dapper lance]

over achiever

[indigo quail]

I want to merc for 5* eye mainly, 30% more crit dmg

[sour jay]

get your own 👁️

[indigo quail]

[indigo quail]

2 more events

[knotty verge]

it takes sooo long

[sour jay]

yea artifacts suck

[knotty verge]

I need 20 more eye fragm for 5star eye

[dapper lance]

i finished belinda i'll save her for you next week

[indigo quail]

[flat flume]

Still waiting fk

[indigo quail]

[flat flume]

Can't get last one lol

[indigo quail]

thought yall had it alr

[flat flume]

Takes time. Call then this

[knotty verge]

@indigo quail I pushed trift on poe hoe

but it was only a small push

[gilded salmon]

wait thats illegal

[quartz salmon]

You pinged wrong hoe

[knotty verge]

It wasn't me I swear

[quartz salmon]

Didn’t you mean to ping smoku

[knotty verge]

no real hoe, poe got mad at me for not pushing

[quartz salmon]

[knotty verge]

it would have been totally okay for smoku probably

[quartz salmon]

So wait you pushed on myus account

Or I’m still not understanding

[knotty verge]

Myu complained that I didn't push on poe hoe

[quartz salmon]

Which is her account now right

[knotty verge]

myu was almost higher in stage than poe hahaha

[quartz salmon]

[knotty verge]

what am I missunderstanding now