treasure-scramble

[quartz salmon]

I’m done being f2p

[granite mason]

hi helo

[quartz salmon]

Hi hi

[granite mason]

role back when

[quartz salmon]

Dw I can afford to whale

[gaunt marten]

Dont

[quartz salmon]

Good question

[granite mason]

hey i want to join

for leaks

[lapis moth]

nobles x4, wishbox, vip tg, limited tg sg, event passes, exchange special deals etc

[solemn sage]

Yeah I'm not sure if lilith did the math on melodic

[lapis moth]

just ask when you are not sure

[quartz salmon]

[gaunt marten]

Oh they have leaks huh that's cute

[solemn sage]

on the one hand it encourages spending regularly, on the other hand it discourage buying more than one thing a day

[quartz salmon]

Yeah kinda dumb

[quartz salmon]

You fr sir?

[gaunt marten]

Everyone hated it when it was rolled out on test then they just. Kept it

[lapis moth]

OR, whaling even more per day to get a second record

if kraken

[granite mason]

maybe
maybe not

[gaunt marten]

[lapis moth]

[quartz salmon]

Lemmi slide into y’a dms then

[granite mason]

after abex

[quartz salmon]

Hm

Ok

@granite mason @indigo quail you both joining after abex

No going back

[solemn sage]

after beta ae or ranked

[lapis moth]

@sturdy elbow join too

[granite mason]

I mean abex

not abex beta

[storm moth]

oh yes

[solemn sage]

so 2 months

[granite mason]

[solemn sage]

long wait

[gaunt marten]

Trying to eat lunch and chill in here and I can hear all my call lights going off unanswered outside I am going to start biting

[granite mason]

not sure if I quit before that

[quartz salmon]

That’s a lot but ok

[gaunt marten]

Just quit

[quartz salmon]

[granite mason]

[storm moth]

you quit like every week

[granite mason]

yes

[granite mason]

ofc

[storm moth]

[granite mason]

btw where inreverse

[gaunt marten]

Just give account to embla

[storm moth]

he quit

[granite mason]

oh

[quartz salmon]

Me and smoku are in here for life so you guys also better stick around

[granite mason]

is he still in nihilum discord

[quartz salmon]

He is?

[storm moth]

nope

[granite mason]

oh

real quit

nice

[storm moth]

he quit quit

[granite mason]

[quartz salmon]

Sadge

[storm moth]

oh i forgot to do daily on his account

[quartz salmon]

He didn’t respond to my byebye message

[storm moth]

[granite mason]

how can I ask him to send replay for a clear

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

LMAO

maybe don’t

[storm moth]

ask hybrid

[quartz salmon]

Or ask me

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Im super smart broin

[granite mason]

real

[storm moth]

btw if you want to copy my clears in ch42 you will have to whale

[gaunt marten]

No

[quartz salmon]

[storm moth]

wtf gabe

[quartz salmon]

Yeah I know

Also RC 450 to not be pcapped

Time to grind

[storm moth]

[gaunt marten]

After doing what to me

[quartz salmon]

What?

Wdym

[gaunt marten]

Kinda hot

[quartz salmon]

😉

[storm moth]

where azor

i want to trade mercs with him

for perma baden on rakus account

[solemn sage]

ch47 is already full of abel, tamrus and geralt

[quartz salmon]

[gaunt marten]

You already have my maxed abaden perma merc

Greedy fuck

[quartz salmon]

Mf you think that’s relevant to us

Jk

[storm moth]

yes but i cant share him between 2 accounts

[quartz salmon]

But kinda true

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

That’s crazy tho

[solemn sage]

chasmic will make it relevant soon

[gaunt marten]

Imagine doing campaign

[quartz salmon]

What’s chasmic?

[solemn sage]

lowers the RC levels of campaign enemies the more people clear the stage

[storm moth]

should i clear ch42 today

[gaunt marten]

I don't know

Should you

[storm moth]

gabe

[gaunt marten]

You can use my boy

What

[storm moth]

already used

[storm moth]

i wanted to be taksik

[gaunt marten]

How already used up my soupy boy

[storm moth]

but im nice today

[gaunt marten]

Slurped him

[quartz salmon]

Damn

Smoku is in a good mood

[storm moth]

i pushed from 42-12 to 42-40 in 2 days

you think i wouldnt use him

[gaunt marten]

I'm in a bitchy mood cause I know imma get back and have ppl to change

I remember this lazy ass nurse from a year ago at this facility

My Ramen is still too hot to eat so I guess I'll die

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Eat cold soup like me

[gaunt marten]

I hope you use him

[quartz salmon]

Cause my oven bruke

[gaunt marten]

Bruke

🅱️ruke

[quartz salmon]

Bruke

[gaunt marten]

Canisa and 🅱️ruke

[quartz salmon]

[storm moth]

i did look

[quartz salmon]

Isn’t midnight for you gabe

[gaunt marten]

3 am

[quartz salmon]

Hmm

[gaunt marten]

I'm a nightshift nurse

[quartz salmon]

Ouhhh

[gaunt marten]

Making out with him

So hard

[storm moth]

real

[quartz salmon]

I though you were having the munchies

[storm moth]

i had to take off furn and gear from chicken

to make this work

hot

[quartz salmon]

Hot

But also

Give me some

[storm moth]

for t3 chests

so i can get reso

nvm i have enough

[solemn sage]

T4 reso when

[storm moth]

real

[solemn sage]

they'd have to make t4 reso give t3 hero bonuses though

otherwise you'd have to choose between hero bonuses or t4 extra stats

if you had t3 on a hero

[storm moth]

someone give t1 and t2

[gaunt marten]

No I'm just eating the same kinda shit bc thats what you eat when you're night shift

Ramen and chips and junk

[gaunt marten]

Wife

Nev spotted

[storm moth]

i need to e60 her

[gaunt marten]

I need her

[feral coral]

How don't u have her e60

[gaunt marten]

Bad taste

Doesn't wife her

[granite mason]

save cores for tamrus

[gaunt marten]

Almost done

[storm moth]

idk

[quartz salmon]

Everyone told me to engrave Nev but I think I’ll do Anasta

[lapis moth]

think I agree with flaw on this

anasta e60 is kinda disappointing

[quartz salmon]

It is?

I’m talking of e30 in any case

But Anasta e60 meh?

[lapis moth]

yeah get her e30/44 then nev e60 first imo

[quartz salmon]

In a way it’s very expensive for a hero to be good in cr but it doesn’t give you a lot of dmg

[gaunt marten]

Again you're delusional

L opinion

[quartz salmon]

Like Anasta always doing 2/3b max

[quartz salmon]

My Anasta is so smol I’m tired of getting 300m in CR

[lapis moth]

that may be with a big teee

[quartz salmon]

Like fr she’s used in pretty much every rotation

[lapis moth]

Even less so with 15 warr branch

[quartz salmon]

Yeah 1b with 15 warr lol

[lapis moth]

I'd get her minimum to be useful in Cr and focus on nev next

[quartz salmon]

Min being 309e30 ig

[gaunt marten]

I don't think it's worth the e60 if you have better prios as f2p

I can't remember if you're f2p

Or just flirting w being p2w

[quartz salmon]

I’m just talking about e30

[gaunt marten]

Well yeah e30 everything

Shards are like popcorn

[quartz salmon]

Hmm I was f2p cause I liked being in the gang but raku left and smoku got classy account, aka not f2p so I’m spending a bit now

Im struggling with shards ngl

[gaunt marten]

Weird

Why

[quartz salmon]

I still need to do queen Anasta nev haelus are more

Idk how but I’m late on shards

[gaunt marten]

Oh well with a lot of shit to do you'll be low on that resource

Like how I'm perpetually out of gold emblems

Playing catch up on si

[quartz salmon]

Yeah lol me too

[gaunt marten]

Shards are pretty easy

[knotty verge]

thank you so much ☺️

[storm moth]

does nivea have any breakpoints before e60?

[opal bone]

You likely got poe over shards most of the time.

[quartz salmon]

Yeah definitely

You take shards sometimes?

[opal bone]

I took shards like 60% of the time.

[quartz salmon]

From what

Just In general

You don’t go for poe?

[opal bone]

Monthly thing, chests like gh, etc

I do more now

[quartz salmon]

Fr

Damn, I though they were bad value from chest

[opal bone]

But you don't need that much poe as f2p

Overvalued

[quartz salmon]

Aight

Time to become shard hoe

[gaunt marten]

But furn sexy

[quartz salmon]

Yeah exactly

[storm moth]

bait from every chest possible

[quartz salmon]

How will I get Wolise and Whane 36f

[storm moth]

and joos from exchange

[gaunt marten]

Shard hot sounded bad

[quartz salmon]

[gaunt marten]

Idfk why it just did

[quartz salmon]

Yeah me too

[gaunt marten]

I need nev 36f now

I want to retire

[quartz salmon]

It sounded very wrong

[opal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-clown-matrix-clown-costume-gif-17340123

[quartz salmon]

Joos is gud

[storm moth]

?

[opal bone]

[knotty verge]

reds forever from exchange

[lapis moth]

she's like Oden where every investment is good tbh

[knotty verge]

[quartz salmon]

[opal bone]

Mine afk at e30 until I get abaden

[gaunt marten]

Why

[steady hill]

what arti specific

[knotty verge]

string is good 🤭

[storm moth]

so i leave her at e33 for now and wait untill i can e60

[steady hill]

sent

[knotty verge]

To si30 every hero

ty

[steady hill]

i forgot who wants my whane

[storm moth]

hi peach

where my abel merc

[gaunt marten]

Why

[steady hill]

did u asked for it

[storm moth]

no

[gaunt marten]

Lmao

[steady hill]

then yea i gave it to my guildmate

[storm moth]

[solemn sage]

honestly I didn't notice much improvement from nev e60

[storm moth]

[gaunt marten]

Wym

[steady hill]

cause he actually reserved my abel

[gaunt marten]

Sounds fake

[steady hill]

so i thought theres a conflict

[gaunt marten]

Nev slander

Wow I wrote slather that was bad

[storm moth]

do i use olgath trial

[solemn sage]

freudian slip

[gaunt marten]

Make them fight

[gaunt marten]

Die

I just remembered pegging height

[storm moth]

[steady hill]

i hate that my cr dmg only capped ay 44b

[gaunt marten]

I hate cr

[steady hill]

i need better pets

[storm moth]

mine max 25b

[opal bone]

Max skill issue

[lapis moth]

you can, don't believe she has significant engraving breakpoints

[storm moth]

[opal bone]

She wants e60 because of the e60 effect

[gaunt marten]

I slipped and gave her e80

E100 nev when

I need Edwin right now

[solemn sage]

her e60 effect not a big deal

[gaunt marten]

But why

[solemn sage]

I e60'd her and it barely changed anything in TS/CR

compared to E30

[opal bone]

Maybe you just don't notice

[gaunt marten]

I don't have :erm: in here but just imagine

[opal bone]

Her e60 is extra dmg to the summons ally

So it's good

[solemn sage]

I don't care that you simp for her gabe I'm just speaking objectively

[gaunt marten]

She's integral to many of comps in ts at e60

[opal bone]

How good is debatable

[gaunt marten]

Uh okay

[solemn sage]

Your comp winrates are fucked

[gaunt marten]

Lmao

[solemn sage]

because of all your e80s

from simping

[gaunt marten]

Yeah she wasn't e80 until pretty recently

[granite mason]

its good yes

[storm moth]

actually i might hoard for a while

[granite mason]

but not necessary

because

It's essential.

[solemn sage]

her e60 is extra damage/haste when summons die, but TS fights are generally decided before summons have died much

[lapis moth]

what about long bossing fights like cr tr gh

[solemn sage]

depends on who she's buffing I guess

[lapis moth]

I don't think she'd be as good without it

[granite mason]

her e60 is very good when pairing with si30 wolise

[solemn sage]

but again I didn't notice my CR damage go up much

after e60ing her

problem is summon heroes aren't usually the main dps in CR

abaden is the only big one, and his damage is more about the mortas interaction than his summon

[lapis moth]

Well she's one of the more broken and widely used hero now so def deserves her e60 imo

And wolise kinda weak in pvp without her

[civic sage]

Anasta e60 still probably better than hers

Depends if you have Wolise ig

[solemn sage]

trying to remember now

is nev even used in CR at all anymore

[gaunt marten]

This yeah

[lapis moth]

I didn't notice much difference with anasta between e44 and e60

[gaunt marten]

She's used as a sub but I don't think she's been bis for a bit

[solemn sage]

she's in like 2 talene rounds I think

and nowhere else except as sub

[lapis moth]

But smol warr branch

[solemn sage]

yeah she's in talene round on brute and grez round on nem

[gaunt marten]

Anasta e60 pretty big but also I worry how relevant that will be

[solemn sage]

talene round doesn't care about the e60

nem she's with grez asolise so would matter there

and kane talene same thing, e60 irrelevant

GH didn't use nev

for whale teams

[knotty verge]

anasta e60 is very relevant

[solemn sage]

so yeah her e60 is just for TS and one CR round

[gaunt marten]

I mean ephemerally

Sorry I'm tired not being specific

[granite mason]

for campaign

[solemn sage]

and personally I've had more success in TS replacing nev with other supports

aside from crystal

she needs longer fights to be good

[gaunt marten]

What other supports

[knotty verge]

whats your nev investment

[solemn sage]

30 9 E60

[knotty verge]

oh

[gaunt marten]

She likes ice debuff

[solemn sage]

yes, ice = crystal

she's good there

[gaunt marten]

Oh I wasn't sure wtf crystal was

Giving nev meth ig

[solemn sage]

other two debuffs I found standard alna supports better than her with abaden

and I usually use asolise in dims so there's no room for nev

so she ends up 7th team if I use her at all

[lapis moth]

Interesting

[solemn sage]

nvm I lied I do use her in fire

[storm moth]

so not really worth

[granite mason]

[gaunt marten]

Lol

[lapis moth]

Also keep in mind you have a lot more options to choose from

[solemn sage]

that's a bad argument though

investing cores into a hero because you don't have more options is a bad idea

[lapis moth]

And have all of the relevant meta heroes

It's a valid argument imo

[solemn sage]

save your cores for the other, better options that you'll get later

[gaunt marten]

Asolise dims failed me final round

[solemn sage]

this debuff or in fire debuff?

[gaunt marten]

Ice

I second guessed myself and changed teams right at the last second

I like fire debuff its trez cheese multihit time

[solemn sage]

I did split dims, and a random bs 7th team because abrutus kept being trash

[gaunt marten]

Time to do final rounds I'll talk to yall later.

[lapis moth]

If you say know you're not going to get something like chimera for another 6 months and sitting on a lot of unused cores it'd be a waste not to use on a good hero like nev

[solemn sage]

if that e60 on nev isn't actually doing much for you, it would be

and in my experience it hasn't done much

even when I do use her

[lapis moth]

I will let you know what I think when I e60 her

[solemn sage]

the other thing to consider

if you E60 nev

it's gonna be really hard to get talene higher combat rating than her

I had to 3* my talene

[lapis moth]

Still she's used all over so it's not a bad investment imo

Yeah ik

Not going to star her more than 1

And hopefully will find a solution to that by the time I get talene built

[solemn sage]

E30 nev in fire debuff in mid december

E60 nev in fire debuff in mid january

[lapis moth]

But you make good points

[solemn sage]

exact same winrate

[lapis moth]

Well fire is burst so makes sense

Since her E60 is suited for long fights

[indigo quail]

[polar dune]

Its like meta evolve and people also change team and get stronger so the comparison is as good as water balloon without the water

Also E60ing her there would just be stat value , doesn’t get any of the e60 itself

Bad comparison for tech

[solemn sage]

haste on asolise

but yes comparing a month apart is statistically meaningless

even day to day winrate can swing 10% anyways

[polar dune]

Don’t feel like ASolise would completely benefit but aside from that , basically investing on full defensive

Win rate itself don’t rlly swing unless your opponent are also actively changing team

Otherwise its always gonna be margin

[solemn sage]

winrates swing a lot when you're not top 5

[polar dune]

Just mean you either got into a trophy bracket vsing ppl with better team 4 and worst team 5 or vice versa

Top 5 isn’t the benchmark for changes

Its falling into the specific trophy bracket of higher or lower player

[solemn sage]

difference in opponent strength is a lot more variable at lower ranks

[polar dune]

And if their comp is adequately dealt

[solemn sage]

near the top, generally everyone has 7 decent teams. Lower ranks, people will have a mix of strong and super weak teams

so it's a lot more random what you match up against

[polar dune]

Doesn’t change what I have said but aight

Just going off the rail on that one

[solemn sage]

brackets do matter a lot too

[vernal vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-caribbean-davy-jones-the-kraken-kraken-gif-17888858

[quartz salmon]

this gon be me when afk allows me to buy

[vernal vessel]

What is the problem?

[quartz salmon]

idk everythign is in dollars for some reason

im french i dotn fkign use dollars

also buying jsut laods endlessly

[vernal vessel]

Is it your own account ?

[quartz salmon]

yup

[vernal vessel]

Android or iOS?

[storm moth]

both

[quartz salmon]

I bought stuff two days ago, yesterday I logged in and everything was in dollars and it didnt work

yeah I tried on LD player and Iphone

[vernal vessel]

Contact support maybe

[quartz salmon]

I contacted supprot thru the game

but they dotn seem to do much

i'll send a msg on discord to support

[storm moth]

contact bappy

[quartz salmon]

bappy has a broken window and no electricity, i think he has more important stuff to deal with lol

[storm moth]

lmao

[solemn sage]

probably trying to buy through emulator made them think you were trying to pretend to be in different country to get lower prices

but that doesn't make much sense if you were buying in euros

nobody would try to use euros for a lower price

[vernal vessel]

Euro 20%+ tax

[quartz salmon]

oh i was wonderign, is that allowed?

[quartz salmon]

yup

annoying af

[solemn sage]

it's not allowed

[quartz salmon]

okok good to know

kinda obv, just wanted to make sure

[solemn sage]

plenty of people do it still

[storm moth]

how much whaling are you gonna do

[solemn sage]

lilith won't do much other than force your country to be the correct one

[lapis moth]

[vernal vessel]

Julius lvl

[quartz salmon]

not much lol

50$/month prob

[solemn sage]

but you are risking your google/apple account getting banned

[storm moth]

julius simp spotted

[solemn sage]

which could be very bad if it's your main one

[storm moth]

[vernal vessel]

You know that it’s illegal right

[quartz salmon]

not taking the risk lol

I dont have a VPN tho, game just thinks im not in EU for some reason

[vernal vessel]

It’s basically Tax evasion

[solemn sage]

depends on your actual country

lots of countries still haven't updated tax laws to handle the internet

but yes most of the big countries it's illegal

[polar dune]

Don’t need a VPN to buy in a diff currency

[lapis moth]

gib rng tips

flora round

[storm moth]

win

[solemn sage]

aezizh

[storm moth]

can you push faster pls

i want to copy

[lapis moth]

[trail swift]

i hate raku

[lapis moth]

luc being a b*ch

[trail swift]

low rng my ass...sigh

[lapis moth]

240 deficit sir

[storm moth]

why are you pushing 273 deficit

[sacred notch]

Real question is why aren't you

[solemn sage]

deficit gets higher and higher the further you go

[storm moth]

cuz you were lazy

[lapis moth]

because I can

[sacred notch]

[lapis moth]

smoku slams classy

[trail swift]

i don't mind high deficit i just hate raku manual with a passion

[storm moth]

i will clear this chapter today trust

[trail swift]

😭

[lapis moth]

is your raku e44 t4

[trail swift]

yeh

6f

i got pretty close twice but time out against skreg

[lapis moth]

is ldv e36+

[trail swift]

e30 merc :q

don't have ldv for another 25days ish

[lapis moth]

get a better merc e36+ maybe

[storm moth]

is ldv dying the problem

[trail swift]

well either ldv or raku dies instantly 9/10 times but when it gets going into a perma-stun, it works pretty well..though ldv ends up dying at the last moment, when only skreg is alive, then raku times out against him

the only ldv i have to choose from have book equipped

[storm moth]

get that e36 ldv merc then

[trail swift]

not sure if that can replace call

[storm moth]

will be a lot easier trust

[trail swift]

alright i'll try dat

[storm moth]

pet for r2?

[lapis moth]

ice fatty

[storm moth]

nvm owl worked

you think i can auto r5

[lapis moth]

yeah auto worked for me

[storm moth]

okay i can

just lucy left

[lapis moth]

fund my luc to e86 when?

[storm moth]

you first

[trail swift]

what's your lucy nao

[storm moth]

309e66 probably

[trail swift]

mine is e65 i keep itching to go to e67 or something but the gains seem kina small for cost

[storm moth]

1 star

[trail swift]

same but 65

is like less than 1 phys.pierce worth the cores tho

what does it give you like 0.8 or something

[storm moth]

arthur doesnt die

nvm complain strat op

[lapis moth]

some say pp mp are some of the best stats in the game

[trail swift]

yeah haste and pp/mp

still a pretty small amount tho

idk how pp/mp are calculated tho

[trail swift]

lucy pp 6/8 to 7/8 (e66) gives 0.54 peepee for 300 cores

so, 0.54% more dmg assuming there's not some weird round up/down thing

yeeeeeah idk

just beat 40-48 doe 👍

[obtuse mauve]

That one got me a whole week to pass, at 238 deficit. Removing most gear from all but Lucy was the key i was missing

[storm moth]

i did it in 5 min

[obtuse mauve]

That's not true if the enemy has high pr. Say the enemy has 99.5 pr, then 0.5 pp doubles the final damage. The example is taking it to the limit as an illustration, ofc, only to show it's not that straightforward

[obtuse mauve]

Rngods are protecting you

[storm moth]

just better tbh

[obtuse mauve]

[storm moth]

@lapis moth clear -40 so you can gib tips in -44-3

[obtuse mauve]

-44-3 is easy cheesy, -44-2 is the issue, imo

[storm moth]

cheese bad

maybe i should take off furn from ezizh

[obtuse mauve]

Is your middle back a lvl1 filler?

I didn't watch the victory, but sometimes ezizh pulls numisu, not sure it's needed

[storm moth]

no but there are clears with torne on rc

[quartz salmon]

you play league?

[storm moth]

fuck no

[lapis moth]

e60 ant so I can merc sir

classy said ok

[storm moth]

you first

i need her too

[storm moth]

[lapis moth]

why is it so hard to find smh

[storm moth]

idk i just asked first guy in my fl

[storm moth]

maybe hythlo has her?

[lapis moth]

I need more mauler simp friends apparently sadge

[storm moth]

im gonna build her on rakus account

[lapis moth]

[shell jungle]

where roles

[storm moth]

hi stinky

big fan

[shell jungle]

hello mr. fan

[storm moth]

[shell jungle]

[storm moth]

what you doing in here stinky

[solemn sage]

he left the server

but couldn't stay away for long

[opal bone]

Get mine

I need more friend tickets

Myu didn't request my Athane yet

[lapis moth]

you have e60 ant?

[opal bone]

Of course

[lapis moth]

she took mine

[opal bone]

[lapis moth]

damn, thanks a lot

I add

[opal bone]

Oh wait

I read that as Anasta

[lapis moth]

💀

[opal bone]

I forgot Ant was a thing

[lapis moth]

she is since talis came out sadge

[opal bone]

Oh, you mean for that one TR round?

[lapis moth]

yeah

[opal bone]

You don't need her to get t50

Especially with your RC

[lapis moth]

ik I could probably get like t10 with scarlet

but if I can find one I'd rather do that

[opal bone]

Just use twins/pope/estrilda backline

Easy t50

[twilit gulch]

[lapis moth]

yeah I'll do that if I don't find one

[storm moth]

easy t50 with scarlet

and with anty easy t1

[twilit gulch]

Isn't it easy legend with the pets u have?

[storm moth]

[twilit gulch]

[lapis moth]

higher rank = more rewards tho

[twilit gulch]

I know at some point the top ranks all have the same rewards

Not sure how that's divided

[lapis moth]

[solemn sage]

I thought top 50 are all same rewards, only difference is guild diamonds

but I wouldn't know I've been in fabled forever

[dawn tinsel]

Anasta worth red cards? Currently si30 e0. Other candidates are Haelus (a ways away from A), Mulan (unclear impact), new GB (too new to tell), or continue to save. I have 8 red cards hoarded, and am a long way from next Awakened.

Also, next e30+recommendation? (Or save for future Haelus / new GB?)

[lapis moth]

idk should check that

maybe I'll just run a 30930 one

[lapis moth]

anasta meh without engraving so I'd hold off until at least e30 imo

could maybe give 1 card to hodge that's like an extra 1-2b damage for baden on some cr rounds

[trail swift]

does anyone know when teh next fields thing starts that requires 3k diamondos

[dawn tinsel]

I have enough for one e30+ also - is Anasta my top e30 prio or do you think someone else comes first? Some candidates in my mind are save for Haelus, wait to see how Edwin is, Yen, Neva, Queen, Hodg.

[trail swift]

i have almost enough for two e30s and one e60 but i'm stuck waiting for palmer and LDV.. i've been tempted to dump them into yenn or anasta tho

[lapis moth]

oh than yeah do her and hodge imo, and get anasta to e44 if you can

haelus L will take time

don't do yen you have better things to use on

[dawn tinsel]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking too- cool, time to use 6 cards and not regret it 🙂

[trail swift]

yeah ik but yenn so good in peevy-pee

but i'll regret it since palmer/ldv seem higher prio

but damn still another month for ldv. and probably palmer too, won't be able to 1* him this hcp

[dawn tinsel]

Which nodes for Anasta?

[lapis moth]

offensive nodes and IS

[dawn tinsel]

[trail swift]

her e60 skill is actually good too

[dawn tinsel]

Can’t afford that right now though…

[lapis moth]

atk haste is pp

[trail swift]

yeh just something to consider for later. mine's still e0 for now ;_;

[dawn tinsel]

Perfect, thanks!

[dawn tinsel]

Yeah, I have her on my long list of eventual e60s 😅 I still don’t even have Scarlet…

[dawn tinsel]

Any thoughts on who replaces these two on furn wl? I was thinking Zol (even though a ways away, behind Haelus) and Mulan. Other candidates could be Geralt, Nemora, new GB, Sonja…

[trail swift]

same and i'm really tempted to take my e44 scarlet to e60 soon. she's 1 copy from 5* so the haste is decent

[lapis moth]

I'd do joan 9 arthur 3

[trail swift]

but idk if i'll really get enough out of it to be worth delaying another heroes e4x/e60 for that much longer

but with scarlet being used like everywhere it's a good invest

[lapis moth]

you can also do new wilder and new gb if you plan to ascend them when ship is up

joan 9 is good though

[granite mason]

wdym new wilder, remember his name, TAMRUS

[lapis moth]

it's a confusing name

[granite mason]

[lapis moth]

I've seen it being confused for titus and tarnos so far

[storm moth]

do you think if i build brrlinda before next awk im gonna cry

because next awk more broken or sth

[lapis moth]

we're close to its release anyway so might as well wait

[storm moth]

yeah

but brrlinda cute

and stronk

and stuff

[lapis moth]

💳

[dawn tinsel]

Already have Arthur 3. Joan + Zol or JoA + Mulan? I’m not HCP-ing new Wilder, so he will take a long time. Don’t even have Eorin. New GB I’m still waiting for people to tell me if he is good 😛 Any other candidates I should consider for my wl?

[lapis moth]

oh mb

new wilder > eorin btw

not a fan of mulan tbh unless you're a big spender personally

new gb looks very good on paper

[storm moth]

fund me

[lapis moth]

got t2 with e30 ant so I guess e60 doesn't matter much

[storm moth]

[dawn tinsel]

Hmm good to know - then I think I’ll put JoA + Zol for now, and likely switch Zol to new GB soon after his release based on others’ early testing. Will keep Tamrus > Eorin in mind, but not really worth HCP ahead of Haelus/Zol sg right?

[lapis moth]

I'd try to get him at least M+ +20 before ship is down

mf got me like 8b damage on the belinda round as a morael sub at M+0

[storm moth]

with built wanda?

[lapis moth]

yeah

[storm moth]

oh

[lapis moth]

it's huge

without him probably do like half the damage

[storm moth]

nah without him my L abel did 5b

[lapis moth]

cuz you have morael

I speak of us plebs

who'd probably never get morael

[storm moth]

oh

[dawn tinsel]

Oh wow. Okay, might HCP Tamrus just to M then. But likely to do Edwin first. Which rounds does can he substitute Morael in? I don't really know what he does…

[lapis moth]

probably most of them

they do a similar job in grouping the enemies together

and cc and stuff

[dawn tinsel]

Got it - guess that delays Haelus a (tiny) bit, but seems worth getting Tamrus to M at least.

[lapis moth]

you still have some time for the ship so you could also wait and hcp before it ends

[dawn tinsel]

My current HCP still has 3 left and timer will reset in about a week (in auto battle, don't remember exact). Thinking about using that (already have one copy of Tamrus) to get him to M, and then keep next full set of HCP for the new GB.

So time bottleneck is more my HCP than the ship. If new GB turns out not to be great, I might consider using next HCP to get Tamrus to A and throw him on furn wl instead of Zol.

Tamrus furn is good too right?

[granite mason]

yes, he wants 309 for maximize boost

[lapis moth]

his 9f good, not sure about si30

personally planning to go 209

[granite mason]

sir

it boosts his passive from 5 to 10

x2 the buff

[dawn tinsel]

It = 9f, or si30?

[lapis moth]

this is defensive tho

looks more pvp oriented

[granite mason]

si30

[lapis moth]

planning to mostly use him for CR for now

and low on reds anyway

[still heron]

@storm moth

[storm moth]

lmaoo

[lapis moth]

[granite mason]

20% ar boost at the start and 40% max, thats good in both pvp and pve

[granite mason]

[lapis moth]

smoku famous

[storm moth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/974081672972763186/1074078793934839949/756572285271408672.gif

[flat flume]

His on tv

[dawn tinsel]

[lapis moth]

enthusiasm is a defensive buff unless I am missing something

[granite mason]

read furniture

[lapis moth]

o 9f

well

I guess we'll see how important it is when he gets tested more

[dawn tinsel]

How is he in other game modes? PvP, tower multis, campaign 42+ etc. I just remembered that in recent CR Morael rounds, I've either had some subs available, or nothing built for the entire team, so Tamrus may not give me benefit for a long time --- I've generally got a long way to go before having CR teams built, barely hit top 80-90% right now. (I'll do some studying to see if there are specific Morael rounds where I have viable teams but missing a Morael sub.)

[granite mason]

both 3f and 9f is allied- buff

[lapis moth]

seems good for pvp too

[dawn tinsel]

[lapis moth]

just get the minimum required for cr imo, and wait for him to get tested some more

before investing if you have other prios

[storm moth]

2nd best team in the game fr

[granite mason]

btw @knotty verge why mishka so high

[dawn tinsel]

M+20 min? Or 209 min?

[granite mason]

and where kren skriath

and should put anasta like - dont do before 9f
thoran - should do when ch35

[knotty verge]

kren dropped out since the last guide from cr or other modes and it would mostly be a sub or a maulers carry at this point. skriath si30 is nice to have but not mandatory

[lapis moth]

personally doing M+ si20 before ship ends and getting 9f naturally

[knotty verge]

mishka 40% dr with 10% each stack is great for many modes

[dawn tinsel]

Sounds good, thanks for all the discussion!

[granite mason]

Real carry in mauler tower if you dont have wutus, decent in TS in ldv raku, and a campaign carry for f2p/light spender, i dont see why you remove him from si wishlist

[lapis moth]

[knotty verge]

he was at mishkas spot before

[granite mason]

Mishka si30 is mainly for pvp
and you dont need that when you run scarlet mishka, because if scarlet dies then even mishka si30 gonna do nothing at that point

Skriath si30 deals decent dmg in TS

if he can ult< in energy buff, yes>

[knotty verge]

tbh nerd requested changing mishka with kren I have no role and couldn't follow their discussion in taverns chat

[storm moth]

mishka si30 mid

[granite mason]

and change the sentence also

[knotty verge]

better than daimon si30 before

[granite mason]

min for ainz should be 209

not 203

[civic sage]

Nerds is doing a lot of trolling recently

[knotty verge]

I didn't do that

the sentence is from cs team

[granite mason]

yeah ik

asta change it buddy

[knotty verge]

let's wait for edwin and I am gonna change the guide accordingly

I bet edwins si30 is higher prio than mishka anyway

[storm moth]

edwins si looks mid

from what i have heard

[knotty verge]

yeah, I would guess around silas place rn

but we have to see first

[civic sage]

203 is fine early on

[granite mason]

203 aint do anything in both pvp and pve

[civic sage]

It does

[granite mason]

since he cant survive long enough to ult

[civic sage]

There's no reason to state the minimum as 209, 9F is clearly optimal but he's still able to be used in both Rift/TS without it (obviously to a lesser degree)

[granite mason]

And if he cant ult, it doesnt do enough dmg to kill enemies anyway

[storm moth]

it does

[alpine grove]

I’m using him on my alt at 203 and he works as my second team for campaign boss stage

[granite mason]

Ainz team is the weakest team in trift
and u think he can survive in ts sir

[civic sage]

No 9F = Low deficit = Enough time to ult
Generally

[civic sage]

He isn't the weakest team in Rift

[alpine grove]

Tf you mean weakest in rift

[storm moth]

ainz is the strongest team in mage rift

[granite mason]

no 9f = not having enough dmg = enemies killed you first

[storm moth]

maybe after abel idk

[knotty verge]

well ainz was the weakest team with just bedo and ainz yeah. but it changes really quickly

[knotty verge]

new accounts dont have merlin or ldv

[alpine grove]

He’s my only team that wins in 1 try in rift

[granite mason]

Ainz sucks for me even though I had him 309e60

[alpine grove]

What’s your whole team around him though

[granite mason]

ainzbedo joA yen palm

[knotty verge]

where is merlin

[granite mason]

in abel

[civic sage]

The reason that's your weakest team is because the team is bad

[granite mason]

it isnt

[civic sage]

It is, stop denying the obvious

[granite mason]

It has dmg reduction, buff and healer - dont see why its bad. Its just ainz sucks - when fighting burst enemies I had to swap merlin - JoA to keep ainz alive but its still dum dum if ainz cant kill enemies in 1shot

[alpine grove]

Should he ainzbedo, Merlin, Joan, Mortas

Bruh you just said it wasn’t working for you how could it be a good team 💀

[granite mason]

then what will you run in other teams then?

[knotty verge]

if belinda needs merlin you can't say ainzteam is bad. it would be abel team is bad

[granite mason]

nah

Even if I put merlin in ainz

[knotty verge]

cant you sub merlin

[granite mason]

its still hard to fight against burst heroes

[civic sage]

Put Merlin back in Ainz and restructure your teams

[granite mason]

or so many healer such as desira + silas

[civic sage]

Yen shouldn't be there either

What does 'our' refer to?

Your guild?

[granite mason]

nvm

forget it

nothing

[civic sage]

I would try a different guide

[obtuse mauve]

My 309e44 yen works alright with ainz, better than Arthur at least, in most matches

[storm moth]

arthur bad

[obtuse mauve]

Her pushback works and is a life saver sometimes

[storm moth]

ainz team should be merlin, bedo, joa, balmer, ainz imo

[alpine grove]

Palmer in ainz team?

[lapis moth]

yen gives dr and energy regen

[obtuse mauve]

Yes, Joa is bis, but im needing her with scarlet most of the time

[storm moth]

yeah

[lapis moth]

would have liked to try her if I had her built

[granite mason]

just run scarlet cycle

ez

[alpine grove]

I need him in my other rift teams

[obtuse mauve]

Unless I'm running sawlise cycle

[granite mason]

what im running is
ainz
gbs
scarlet cycle
abel
wolise
from worst to best

[obtuse mauve]

What's your sawlise team, and how built is her?

[granite mason]

mishka astar 1lene - she is maxed

[obtuse mauve]

Nice, mine is L, kinda needs cycle to work

[granite mason]

no scrimble

sad

bye

[sacred notch]

Welp

[storm moth]

skrumpl

[gilded salmon]

I need the game to gift me my last raku and lucretia copies so I can do better this next scramble

[indigo quail]

How much copies do you want

[gilded salmon]

Just need 1 of each so I can engrave Raku and give Lucretia furn

[trail swift]

i still need 4 more palmer to ascend... 6 for engrave 😦

[indigo quail]

sent

[gilded salmon]

ty

[trail swift]

⠀∆
∆ ∆

bruh send me some palmer's and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... a side of haelus ig

[opal bone]

https://tenor.com/view/rumble-wwf-fight-michael-buffer-announcement-gif-5453432

LET'S GET READY TO SKRUMBLEEEEEE

[indigo quail]

[quartz salmon]

[trail swift]

[knotty verge]

Is Zol still > Ezizh from chall store?

[dapper orchid]

Yeah

As long as you have 1 copy of ezizh

[knotty verge]

nice

that zol will take forever ngl

[dawn tinsel]

Yeah... I plan to speed mine up with sg after I'm done with Haelus. Prefer to finish one at a time rather than spreading b/w Vei and Zol.

[knotty verge]

Vei seems so good I wanna sg him rn instead of mortas haha

[dawn tinsel]

I've heard he's really good in multiple game modes, but he has yet to creep into my TS region and friends' boxes. So not a lot of fomo here at the moment.

[gilded salmon]

Mortas is done quicker though

[knotty verge]

I did khazard first that's why my mortas is only at L rn

so yeah hopefully M soon

[gilded salmon]

Now you have the best hero in the game though so it was worth it

[knotty verge]

sadly I can't use him in TS or trift

[gilded salmon]

Yeah that is indeed very sad

[knotty verge]

when does MV stop?

I am on 39-56 super stuck at the thoran cheese stage since 3 days now and I could unlock 10 gazers as the next reward..

[gilded salmon]

End of the month

[knotty verge]

not sure if I can beat this stage then I don't even have to merc anyone I am just too overleveld I guess

with a deficit of 215...

[dawn tinsel]

@sturdy elbow - I'm a bit confused (and stuck) with 41-50. I think your description in afk helper might be missing a word - is that supposed to be "Auto off, Thoran manual ult at 1:18, Auto on"? Is there some specific significance to 1:18? Mine usually ults somewhere around 1:20 to 1:18, but either dies before or immediately after second ult to Orthros.

5th hero (tried both Scarlet and Ainz) sometimes ults if I do full auto, but not sure it makes a huge difference - maybe Scar ulting is bad as it CCs enemies and reduces damage taken by Thoran? Not sure if there is any downside to Ainz ulting...

@storm moth do you remember what you did for this stage?

[gilded salmon]

I need to push campaign but Firefly and Raku are both using some funky shit that I'm too dumb to replace

[knotty verge]

^since you pinged @sturdy elbow could you also tell me if your 39-56 cheese worked bc your RC was just 363? I tried it for 10h + with 386 and I checked all artis + I gave hendrik his si0 and t1 reso gear

It says 10-15 min

[dawn tinsel]

Hard to know if it would work with higher RC because I did mine with lower RC 😛 What you need to look for are examples of others with RC around yours using the same Thoran comp. Maybe check friends' clears + higher RC clears on AFK helper? Other thing for you to do is see if your Thoran is ulting the same number of times (and with similar timing) as other clears, but leaving heroes with a small amount of health --- if yes, then it might be a deficit/dmg issue. If indeed it is a deficit/damage issue, try with less armor, and maybe some damage pets e.g. green ball. Same thing with artis - maybe try damage arti if you are able to still get ults off with the right timins. Unfortunately I don't remember much about that stage, nor do I have a good understanding of Thoran cheese to help more directly...

[knotty verge]

it's just he can't even touch flora and torne is full health + a lot of others just survive anyway. I am running other comps since hours now trying to finally beat it

[sturdy elbow]

So 1:18 is when his fear ends. Yeah I probably should have worded it better but basically, it doesn't matter who ults before, Thoran's must ult after fear ends. If you auto, there's a high chance of him not able to kill Orthos who then heals.

[dawn tinsel]

Ah got it - will pay attention a few times to see if fear ends right at 1:18 for me as well (my RC is 5 higher). Thanks for clarifying! Do you remember how high the rng was on this or how many attempts it took?

[sturdy elbow]

Yeah that might have helped.
Since you're at 39-56, just use what you used in 39-32, it's the same stage.

[sturdy elbow]

About 20 give or take, painful.

[knotty verge]

I can't remember anymore

[sturdy elbow]

Hey it isn't funky if it works all the time.

[knotty verge]

ah I guess it was eironn team since he couldn't grab without gear so I gave him gear and it worked

[dawn tinsel]

Ah okay. Btw - not sure if you remember our discussion, but I managed to clear 41-48 without a merc. I was planning to just blindly merc her after seeing your + minitj's clears, thanks for pushing me to try with my own first 😛

[gilded salmon]

Haha sorry I didn't mean it in a bad way, I just don't have Arthur yet

[sturdy elbow]

Yep, I didn't bother with his gear in that chapter so kinda used this

[knotty verge]

ty

[sturdy elbow]

All cool

[sturdy elbow]

How bad was it? I guess it was the most painful round in 41 for me

[knotty verge]

should I just use 1 red card to 9f thoran so I can get 10 gazers from MV eventually

I saw him touching flora already but he died

[sturdy elbow]

If you've been trying too long and it's not working, it's worth it if you can do it before MV reset day after. Otherwise no.

[knotty verge]

yeah I will try a bit longer, if I don't clear it by 6pm tomorrow I will card thoran

[sturdy elbow]

It's sad but worth it for the gazers

[knotty verge]

thoran flora romance 💝

[dawn tinsel]

I just left on auto and walked away - all 5 rounds together were ~2 hours, so not too bad at all! I might just have gotten lucky with the r4 rng 🙂

[sturdy elbow]

Ah nice nice

[dawn tinsel]

Actually this was after restarting a couple of times before that, so maybe 3 hours altogether.

[toxic prawn]

Is there data for which servers are in each ts group? Like servers 961-980 are in r39

[sacred notch]

I don't think so

[indigo quail]

[storm moth]

go poosh

i dont have anyone to copy from

[sturdy elbow]

Yes yes trying, triple Tasis kicking my ass

I'm trying weird comps now, will see how it goes, not going well so far

[storm moth]

there was a triple tasi at -36?

[sturdy elbow]

Yeah you probably didn't notice

[storm moth]

idk if my tree too big for ch42 or deficit too low somehow

[sturdy elbow]

Probably the latter

Even though the deficit's quite big

[storm moth]

never would have thought that 24x is too low

[sturdy elbow]

Exactly haha

Hit CR?

[storm moth]

yeah 23% rn

[sturdy elbow]

Damn nice

[storm moth]

26% mb

i have to try 50% on rakus account later

[sturdy elbow]

You can hit harder, I am sitting at 29% with 15 attempts

[storm moth]

i could hit like 1b more

but not worth

[sturdy elbow]

Eh you could go a bracket or two higher

[storm moth]

i dont have abel built so her dmg is max 6b

[sturdy elbow]

Ah makes sense

[restive goblet]

6b with L?

[storm moth]

5-6b

something like that

[restive goblet]

With morael? I tried a couple times with elite tamrus and only got like 2.5b, so I went back to what I was using before. Maybe I should try it again

[dawn tinsel]

Any key heroes that are needed in 42 that weren’t common (or were merc-able) in 41? I doubt I’ll push 42 for a looooong time, but just trying to build a mental map. E.g. Zol is someone I used to merc that I expect I’ll need built so I can merc someone else 😛

[sturdy elbow]

Used Palmer, Neva in a few multis - I guess you'll have those ready when you push. I used Geralt quite a bit too, sometimes replaceable, sometimes not (you'll change comp basically). ABel merc blows through anything you're stuck on.

[dawn tinsel]

Gotcha - maybe I’ll be able to keep slowly inching forward then with some delays to find alternative comps in multis and the occasional merc in singles. Do you have ASol? Will try subbing her wherever I’m missing something - she seems like a generally decent support sub in a few places…

[granite mason]

scrumble

become questions, cursed realm, afk arena chat, temporal rift, off topic and lineup help

[solemn sage]

it's just afk-arena-chat for people who don't like afk-arena-chat

[granite mason]

weird

[sturdy elbow]

Why discuss scrumpl when no scrampl

[sturdy elbow]

Yeah she could go in Palmer's place sometimes

[lapis moth]

gib dust sir

and I poosh

[sturdy elbow]

Don't poosh so fast

[lapis moth]

can't poosh cheese cuz pcap

sadge

even merc won't help

[sturdy elbow]

Just saw the enemies, merc big Frampton

[lapis moth]

frampton for cheese?

[sturdy elbow]

Yep

[lapis moth]

I should be able to do this in like 5-10 levels I think

where would you put frampton

probably gonna replace grez with a merc cuz mine smol

[sturdy elbow]

In Grez's place

[lapis moth]

thanks I'll try

[sturdy elbow]

Yeah, or merc a 36F Grez, there's bound to be a few

[lapis moth]

alright

[brave sentinel]

760 sg and couldn't 1* Veithael. One copy off.
Time to delete account right?

[brave sentinel]

Can't engrave, can't summon gb tomorrow. Brilliant

[granite mason]

[lapis moth]

[warped jay]

Can anyone tell me Mulan investment to make her work in the next TS round?

[storm moth]

i hab 9k

[tropic birch]

got 1700k

[storm moth]

[tropic birch]

[indigo quail]

@opal bone gib scarlet

[quartz salmon]

Time to engrave Thoran

[storm moth]

sir cant you abel swolise it or sum

[lapis moth]

I'll try abel maybe when I get home but these enemies are really annoying

[storm moth]

yeah they are true

[opal bone]

Eye?

[indigo quail]

Yes

[opal bone]

What's 🎠 ?

[indigo quail]

[opal bone]

[trail swift]

yenn saving me from no ldv again

[lapis moth]

more like wutus saving you probably

[indigo quail]

Geralt saving u

[trail swift]

all their cc combined create captain wutus

[obtuse mauve]

Need 5 cc heroes to replace ldv

[trail swift]

damn, not having any luck at all with the first stage though

phone crashed from trying too long 🤔

aka 1 hour 😭