#treasure-scramble
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that's why he is now bait hoe, cause he doesn't need poe anymore 
r u free sir
yes
Wait Raku quit too? 
Kraken 
Dead game
can u play that wilder account for me
imagine not doing spice farm
Time for me to quit too 

Not allowed
No, no more quitting allowed, you're all here forever
Exams are killing me
@storm moth How you gonna manage 3 accounts? Don't get burnt out, if you quit I will quit too 
how many accounts do you play and log in daily sir
He gave away his old main
My account new main
sadly I am in exam phase too and don't have enough free time to care for multiple accounts too
uhm, 3 I think
and other games also

@storm moth u free sir
Oh, so now he's in same region as me then 
Mhm
i gave my old main away and rakus account i share with james 
Thats why u dm huh


Add me on Classy, I will delete your old main then
yes
ogey
@sacred notch now that you have time, can you play my account? 
already gave away
Thought u trollin'

I don't think I'd be mentally prepared to handle a higher level account, sounds too scary
fr
Who is playing ur Account rn ? @storm moth
Yuu
yuu


Ur german ?
yes

Interessant


tf
I thought people would notice my broken english sooner 
Who would have thought with such name 
Oh 

Detective Kadezh 👀

🕵️
you probably will have to find a different guild soon 
Where is Gabe? Haven't seen him in a while
Left server
He left
it's alright 
He is
yeah
I think someone else plays his account
either that or dm agoros/kya and tell them that you play there now
its mostly embla now
@quartz salmon u free sir
ask bappy

I originally asked James if he wanted my acct, referred me to PoE since he was busy
I'm gonna need someone to take care of my account too for 2 weeks 

Ask raku, classy or asta 

Asta was the first of us to quit
Mhm
Aka now he has time
Sunday
The exodus 
Was very quiet about it
I'm gonna spam every channel when I quit 

Gonna have fun with this nickname later
why is everyone quitting 
Idk but it’s sad
Yeah
I hope for everyone reunite when afk2 releases
and I hope for less pvp focused modes
When did Raku quit?
Earlier today
today
Glad more are following the right path 

Today
It’s clearly the wrong one

Take the red pill
u free sir

People are still playing this game when you need 3/4 Wokes to have a 'good' account 
And we're getting even more Awks 
tbh I will play a bit more afk again and see if they make significant changes to tot income
when I reach ch40 I will stop pushing campaign and just log in once or twice
quit when
when it becomes even more p2w, right now it is exactly at the edge
like I said yesterday I was fine being behind others when I feel that I still can keep up with smart investments. otherwise nah




get fücked
I’m free ish
can u play my wilder account

i cna use might tho 
Ok my back, connection was down
answer
What do u want to know sir
Im just too busy
Exams and other games prevent me from playing it
Is it temporary
yeah maybe
Hmm
Well thing is I’m also kinda busy and I don’t know how I feel about having to do 2x dailies
So the answer is probably no, sorry
ogey np ty

Wait what 😮
Asta too 
That sucks 😦
Explain your name sir @quartz salmon

You didn’t follow?
For some reason bear took madaos pfp and name one day
The next day raku did the same
And we all went haywire and became madaos
- maths talk + stupid talk in this channel
Yea I know of that
I started by me impersonating Skeepies 



He must like me too then 
Ig 
@still heron @misty epoch @granite mason are you considering quitting any time soon?
Maybe 
Nope
I quit for 2 weeks on Friday 

Why did classy quit? And did Raku say anything or just silent mic drop? He seemed pretty active until yesterday, so it’s very surprising. Asta at least has been signaling that he planned to quit for a while right?
raku started playing this game because he was bored when pandemic started
and now that he has stuff to do he quit
I go through phases of that too - pick up some new games when work is a bit relaxed, then keep playing when work gets stressful as a way to dodge work stress. Then quit when I’m wasting too much time and want to refocus on career 😅😅
Hopefully not for a while here though… sorry to see Raku go, hope he comes back.
Whos playing his account now ?
Heard smoku and James sharing it
Realised finally today this game is not worth it
well, not today but when I quit
Ah yeah, that’s probably only going to get worse :/ I guess if you aren’t finding the game fun any more, it’s time to take a break.
This game is going downhill quickly
Raku quit pretty much for the same reasons aswell, he was busy and the game just felt less fun. He said we though about quitting a couple times before actually doing it.
yeah he asked me like 3-4 months ago if i would take his account if he quit
Yeah he was planning on quitting for some time now
Need some teams for my second account. General info would be nice aswell since I never really focused on pvp/Ts before so need knowledge:3
Oh okay 😦
Dead game

it is kinda weird cause I copied raku and poe for almost a year now
whole afk arena changed cause raku quitted, also asta and others
R u free rn
yeah


Read LdV's furniture, easy
I think raku had done it before
anyway for several reasons
merlin mostly pvp/rift hero
without built ldv you can't progress much further in campaign than 39ish, and the earier you get it the easier time you will have
ldv makes a new comp in ts, merlin can be somewhat subbed for a while
so many ldv+raku cc lock stages 
new comp = higher wr %
and q5p 
At a 200+ deficit in campaign Merlin sücks a$$

Ldv does nice dmg in ts too
ldv is incredibly good in burst debuff, one of the best in newer region
And 100% campaign meta
and used in Cr more than Merlin too
temporal without Merlin would be a bummer though
uuh you can copy firefly
like we both did
thats true
based on my experience
What do you guys choose when you have bait and cores in the same reward chests?
100% bait
Anyone can help me with this? Or do you have a good guide?
also flaw said that hes top 3 mages even in end game
I try to pick cores personally
actually merlin and ldv are both important and before you focus on CR you will have both anyway. ldv is enough reason bc of raku ldv in ts
Bait 100%
Ult silence is getting more and more important, it seems
why
ik but he's aezizh..
I don't even own awezizh, dare you call him op
aezizh is not a dps 
yeah but thats end game
I need to save up for E60 Solise
yes
kraken endgame 
Its like 7.5 beasts per e60 worth of cores at the standard ratio. Going from reso 9 to reso 12 costs 55 beasts. So is going from reso 9 to reso 12 worth 55/7.5 = 7.33 extra e60 heroes?
Iirc, flaw said he does some damage. Side-dps most likely
yeah i think his main use is a counter to aster

Im always going for bait or juce if i can
Isnt astar immune from cc at the start
He should counter heroes relying on fast ult chaining, like bawlinda and bawden
the fact that ABel is not in this list is the most obvious sign it's not to be trusted
yes
i think he said that pre abel
And i bet im far behind when it comes to cores ngl
so yeah
what reso do you got
9
I guess I would take baits until reso 12 and switch to cores prob
in campaign, ldv can stunlock all enemies literally by himself, completely irreplaceable unit.
strong TS comp in at least 2 debuffs, I even still use him in Ice but it's team 6 which is generally "whatever's left"
Merlin is good for pvp in Ainz but ainz has plenty of subs, plus in TS you can't smart target Merlin's opposite opponent so loses some of his potency. You can do more with LdV unlocking an entire new comp in TS than adding Merlin to Ainz.
also he's good in Rift

Ic ty
That's my plan too
Bait until reso 12, I take it you have a healthy tree and engraving benchmark done then? 
My tree kind of sucks but the trunk sucks too so 🤷♂️
My branches are capped at 85
Bait is not worth to prio if your tree is unoptimized, people with worse pets but better trees are going to beat you
it's also worth saying that endgame reccs don't matter at all. campaign has garbage rewards and all those players have max rosters anyway - shud only really be concerned ab mages in gamemodes that matter like ts/cr, where aezizh never appears
Just buy bait from the store if you can afford it and get as much juice as you can
it is alright, not really good but seems like pets are important
Also do you guys spend spices in order to reach resonance levels or do you save them to bring a beast to 18?
It's strange to see people who started way after me quitting now 
yeah ofc im just saying that ldv is top from early game to end game 
Gabe's tree sücks a$$ and he can easily beat me in ts

12 winged + 9 resonance > 18 winged + 6 resonance
Better formations can bypass tree investment
Who knows
the part about smoku 
Iirc he has 3 lvl 18 pets
Okay well if you have more than 1 level 18 beast that's different
F2P who goes for bait will not even get Winged 18 for a long time
yes
I've done Juice/bait as my prio now just bait since 4 branches at 107. I'm not even at 9 resonance yet, (6 spices away)
That's why I'm going to prio cores for solise instead
He wants to give me his stolen account but I refuse. 
I have winged 18 
Oh ok that makes sense
And 9 resonance?



Ur doing good
I have 12 winged and I’m 10 beasts from 9 resonance. I have 13 spices saved up
You just picked bait from events and everywhere ignoring juice and such?
Picking juice is troll, especially for f2p
Use them
jingles whel bait 
But I did pick bait from most things
You have to be a rich dolphin to consider taking juice, at least.
Cero and Flaw told me juice but
Exchange Events?
Well I'm obviously not unless they think I'm a spender
Exchange events, twisted bounties etc
I like the idea of pushing resonance because you just know that some of the future beasts are going to be totally broken
help with 5th team 
Baits much better value, upgrade for whole team > upgrade on a specific hero
Same as juice
Random bs go
Baits is new juice 
Juice is for all teams, actually
You can argue the same for pets
Well actually no, I am dumb
I see what you mean
I'll start taking baits then, seems like op.
Everyone should be taking baits from most things until 9 reso at the very least
Thats why im always saying juice > bait > cores
And the exchange value in events is usually the best for juice too
If you take juice without being a high spender you're a clown. 
I don't think so, juice is still important for everyone
you not gonna help a guild mate? 

If I can get 7 e60s for the same price as going from resonance 9 to 12, then I can get an extra e60 on each TS team or I can up the beast lvl of each team by 3
Show teams

There are a lot of variables to take into account, including short term vs long term gains
Obviously you need your teams to not be shit, then you need your tree not to be shit, then you can pick baits 
do i split swolise and scarlet 
When you start finding yourself e60 shits like Eorin/Zolly, it's time to pick baits and stop focusing on cores
ldv
But ofc if you don't have e60 Mishka/Scarlet/awks then continue with cores
Just named a few 4F heroes, not a complete list
Yeah it depends on who those E60 are like Azor is saying
Whale PayLinda 
I feel this is targeted. 
True, Zolly and Eorin meh
416 cards rn 
Ah ofc, I forgot to mention Yenn 
I have E60 Zolrath and E41 Eorin 
it was 34rd when i took that ss
The e60s I’m looking at are mostly for TS

@still heron 
7 E60s, so Albedo, Joan, Mulan that's 3. Do you have 4 awakened lined up ready for E60?
I have like 1.5 lined up.
Can someone help me with teams for Ts?
Are u in our server ?
If so look at ts-ss and copy someone that matches ur heroes
What do you guys think about Raku e60
I think it's not worth it
Don't think he's been given roles yet
Nobody online to do roles
I think Yon Bat and Dae can only do that
Looks a bit early for you to worry too much about team comps tbh - just put together whatever best units you have in obvious teams, have GBs in one team, and your best remaining heroes in another.
classy was r35 sir
and no
im not on nihilum
Mine is still E4x
Get enough cores for your awakened first of all, then probably grab Albedo for TS. Not sure about Mulan but can grab her as well. Joan I don't think is prio E60
t72
Im r32 sir
Since when are both "a prio" ?
Most awakened are priority to E60. Albedo E60 is low prio but good for TS and ABex if you want to focus those modes, Mulan is good E60 for TS from what I've seen
The latter two are skippable unless maining TS imo
Are you keeping classy's acc in nihilum?
Yes
yeah

What a sad day 
then you should be given roles probably
Wait horse in Nihilum? Pog
Totally agree with that
What would be better, the second team with a teamvomb but only e celhypo or Kren in there who is M, SI 0? And E+ Grez or Hodgkin?
i will just not rn
big tree for the win 

You are not? 
i mean that i dont have roles
yeah
Oh Okok
You are still gonna be active on the server for a while?
And slowly quit
Ye
@storm moth Gz on new acc 
he gave it to someone
Afkinder 
To whom? 
¯_(ツ)_/¯
i gave it to yuu
he looks pretty smart for a new player 
no, not yet 

i did because i dont have time for 3 accounts rn
You're still playing that alt you made? 
nope, im playing classy as a main and raku as a 2nd shared with james 

both quit today sadly 
Why did Raku quit though
What does RC stand for besides red chests?
Gratz on the new account! Managed a way to get out of our region 
yeah i dont think so
If I quit how would you go about giving someone else your account?
Just give them your login details. 

Is that safe it's connected to my main email account?
or can you transfer
Yea it's safe, don't need to give them your email

i am in r35
change password (if you have the same for everything, then give e-mail and ps)
i feel like i could get close to t20 
T50 race so tight. 
I just have to carry some ppl in hunting fields; then I'll think about it
@opal bone do you think i have to split scarlet and swolise?
I didn't know Scarlet+Solise was a thing 
Keep it if it works honestly, those other units aren't very good.
scar cycle + swolise
And Solise team is pretty kraken this buff
Not really worth at all
eh if he wanted to e60 silas it is 

hi have 416 tg rn
so pretty close to 3rd awk
Once a poe hoe, always a poe hoe
Please no
Juice good 
xQcL
This is the same principle as gazing for celepogs I talked about before. The people in your proximity that you're competing with are not getting juice, therefore you do not need to get juice.
Get the other resources. 
in the long run it is worth tho
You're gonna out pace your peers
It's not though, nobody who isn't a high spender gets juice from the good players.
He's in R35 now, and people do get juice, so should he
well classy was low spender/dolphin
They will out pace you on stuff that is more useful 
And besides even if others are not taking juice, you picking juice will put you ahead of others so you can never go wrong with juice
and as azor said, people are getting joos
Ah yes, because you get juice and others get nothing 
Your box needs to be good your box can't be ass. If your box is decent juice will be a great boost
I've seen people say big tree does more than big pets
Those 'more' useful things can get out of meta you know, tree will always be around and relevant regardless of game mode
Clowns
I trust cero and Flaw
I very much doubt Cero condones juice over other stuff unless you're a high spender.
also if i boost this tree its not gonna get worse for me 
Is that Classy's tree?
yeah
That's literally whale account
Is this the bait vs juice debate again? I feel like I see this repeating every few days 😂 fwiw, my plan is to pump bait till winged 12 + reso 9, then all in on juice. I have an under developed tree, and am near-f2p, so arguably a bad choice, but I’ve chosen my hole, and that’s the choice I’m sticking with now 😛
Should reset sus and fort to 62 
12 warrior 
You don't understand, what I linked to was referring to my account
idk
rn im getting used to stuff
I don't really know your account, all I am is saying is that you need to be a high spender to justify getting juice from events.
If you are then sure

i can send you my account in dms 
not really tbh
Bro
He Raku uhmed that tree
once you invested in important meta heroes you get more benefit from juice/baits
Except non spenders won't have the required heroes or their minimal investments. Having that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything else.
What should I do with my tree? I’m going to max warrior and keep cele and warrior maxed. I brought mage to 72 because that’s the last crit upgrade.
sir no offense but take your eorin investment for example
That's why I said your box can't be ass....
you can see classy’s tree above and pets are reso 9 + 1 from 15 lion
I'm not saying my Eorin investment is something I recommend. I did it because Mingles is basically my alt.
And idc about having huge tree.
I play optimally on Jingles
And I will never ever touch juice from events
And nobody else does with similar account/situation to me
taking tree from exchange events means you get more from what you pay for
and you invest in your whole roster
there is really no downside here, only upside
especially after you are done with your core e60s
Like I said, having every required hero and their minimal investments is more important than the extra tree levels. 
Well, you do want your SI30 and engraving benchmarks done, and Dura's call level 5 but after that sure
before that it can be debatable
If you're a high spender you bypass the needing heroes/investments part.
So juice makes 100% sense.
I'll never change that opinion. 
Y'all free to do as you wish of course.
not every hero is required though
t65 how do i fix scarlet
so you have wiggle room
No one is even debating you on this point
Yes it's just my last statement on the matter.
More sustain. Burst is not effective in this TS

ill put palmer in it
I mean, you are entitled to your opinion as is everyone else

Palmer for lyca should be an improvement
👍
Your Palmer should be in for some team already 
He's broken this buff.
More than usual I mean.
Still good.
Still very good, and much better than lyca
Lyca is borderline useless in ice
yh
She's not that bad, lives to give buff for long, and ults.
Well, she has half kit neutralized. There are much better options for the buffs/debuffs she brings
The problem with tree is that the first like 47 lvls of each branch are pretty good because the skills get decent upgrades before then, but after that there’s this huge expanse of like 50-60 lvls where the marginal stats you gain are pretty minor in modes like TS. But then after you get above 100, the flat stats start to get relevant to martial rating modes and all of a sudden extra lvls have noticeable effects
It’s just so boring in between 47 and 107
42/60, resp. I'll rejoin brawtus GBs and do some experiments with maulers alone
One interesting thing is that Skriath is always doing high damage in that team. I think it's palmer boosting crit
Maybe by the end of the second round
A lot of people will probably be at 5 teams all day though
Think it would be a good idea to snatch palm to go to scarlet? (Not sure what I would put in place of him in Athane)
Already replaced Luca with Rosa for next but thinking Palmer would be better and Athane could take the hit
Do you have nevanthi? Could put her in place of silas, then Silas in scarlet
Neva + grez seems to work well
I do. And she is beefy. She is in my 6th team so I will have to work around that later
I'm doing this next leg. 5th is alnalucycle. Scarlet team is very experimental though.
Mortas > joa in ainz?
Not 100% sure and would have to double check my WR from previous days but taking Joan out of Athane hurt him a lot. I will double check when I am stationary.
But I was very happy with WR last round
I don't think so, but imo she's kind of wasted there, or should I say more thoroughly used elsewhere (for my box, obviously)
I would slot sWolice but she is just mythic
Anasta is also very good in ice, if you have her at 9f
30920 sadly
That's good enough, imo. Could work better than 3f skreg or Sonja, but not sure
If my WR droops below 60 for that team next round I will test. But that is a WR team I don’t want to mess with to much.
I see. I like to experiment early in the round, so that I can still rollback and climb back to the usual position in time
I just got in to TS last buff so it’s all early experimenting for me
I feel like I could utilize anasta in a better way, I just don't know how 

Seriously 😐!!
Did Izold ramp up?
Never thought about using him in ice
That's the only way I see the comp winning on paper
what i can change in team 3,4 and 5.
What rank are you?
Bro changing comps with 50%ish wr
Swap palmer and sonja
That means you're at your box limit
So palmer reaches everyone
Unless someone is20%ish at the end means you f up
thank sir
team 4 i don't wake Thane what i can use hero ?
None
thane is key team
That's my athane comp
ok sir
Thank

I only have one awakened 
you are not alone 

you have
pets
reso 6 


How can I switch this to be better
Clawed back up to 2. Zaos beat me out for a bit @still heron

I tried to upload the fight but I couldn’t
I will upload on Reddit now
I don’t think the black pet make the difference right ?
Possibly, many factors ig
This was my thought i hope he is
not the pet
Could just be his oden ramped up faster. It’s hard to see who was doing the damage
Damn garbanzo is huge
haelus
Well, Garbanzo beans are pretty big. 
How bad of an idea would it be to replace Astar for M SWolice si 29 in t6?
swolise would be better imo
log in ur account bish
13hrs ago
say that to yuu bish
wot
wdym too 
thought u got raku acc


when my mates quit
u can play raku and classy account but u cant log in ur account
then why dont you give yuu raku or classy account
why would i 
bear can you play that account for me

wow cycle good 
thanks for the help, this is actually working really well
hmm what do you think she needs to replace silas

Skin diff
Nice
Region 33 and currently t58. Started the round t48
ah
hythlo what rank
as classy said skin and guild diff
team 3 don't good sir :((
Alna issues
haha skin beauty :))
Second
fane
fane is amazing

i would love to have him 30960

Yus

du it! 
tamrus cool
2 weeks 
hi, may I ask you a question
you can refuse to answer if its too ..
Sure…
How much would you sell ur acoount if u had to? Just give a price
For 1/2 of what I’ve spent so far 
10 dorras then 

But that’ll never happen. I’m no KE lol
Yup
cool ty
Maybe 1/3 if I feel like it

My account isn’t inherited from anyone, it’s all me. So 🤷♀️
1/10th is usually the

And this is why I’ll never sell
Hm... Although it's not really a replacement, because she changes the team concept a bit, I'd say she needs at least 303 to be useful there.
i will try 
Ghibly next 
imagine being scared at a game

eorin good at 300e41? 
Cycle good if late enough region and low enough rank...
r35 t30-40 
R8...
i expected it to do much worse ngl
Yeah, it's descent. But VERY RNG as well, I've been surprised by it performing well, and then have it perform like 4% next round...

e80 lucy when
no

we might get a chest with flora in the summer 
I got 1% for rewards and now I’m in t50 
Didn’t change any thing
Now
Or I have to wait for merc next week


top 50 kraken ngl
Try black ball with thoran to kill 1hp enemy. It works in some stages so u don't need merc flora
kelthur can sometimes sub for flora too
talene too 
cursed wutus team


I did sir but this stage requires flora
Its either flora or 5* call
If I dont use polar I must have thoran 9f, else my thoran wont have full energy to ult

You don't need 9F thoran 
Then I need flora.


Athane team cursed too
how far to 5* call 
100 more shards
oh not too bad
yen good in blizzard
yeah ik
oh okay thats nice
from r37


Isnt it burst debuff
sir do you think eorin would work here 
Do u have a lab Team? @storm moth
i do
Rip
any idea why my Athane burst sucks ? maybe i should swap lyca?
with crush and jonny2 
yeah i hate it
teach me matchups sir 
I will find someone
@opaque nexus

at least tell me order of teams
from best to worst

Team order doesn't exist
He's pushing rift
yeah but which one will be shit









