treasure-scramble

[storm moth]

something like james above?

[misty epoch]

Yes minus Miskha

And also not sure about Rowan

[storm moth]

yeah i would probably use hendi for rowan

[misty epoch]

Sonja good

[storm moth]

and idk estrilda for mishka?

[misty epoch]

Yea or Estrilda

[storm moth]

sonja 1 copy from A

and 4f from 9f

[restive goblet]

Isn’t Skreg/Anasta good for thane in blizzard

[storm moth]

oh yeah i forgot that anasta is in the game

[storm moth]

[misty epoch]

Much better

[storm moth]

ogey

[misty epoch]

Wrong chat

[storm moth]

where did that come from

oh

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

understandable

[quartz salmon]

Wdym minus mishka

Estrilda bad

Me no like

[misty epoch]

Mishka meh this debuff

[quartz salmon]

But Estrilda wik

[storm moth]

because dr at start and she cant cc fast?

[misty epoch]

Also no shields

[storm moth]

oh yeah

[quartz salmon]

Fk I forgot that

Ok you right

[misty epoch]

People use her for e60 without it she mediocre

[quartz salmon]

But I don’t like pony girl

[storm moth]

she gib buffs no?

[misty epoch]

Estrilda gives DR

[quartz salmon]

She does

But me no like design

[misty epoch]

Also buffs atk

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

Estrilda goes bin

[misty epoch]

So are you telling me you're not my little pony enjoyer?

[storm moth]

[quartz salmon]

I kill the ponies in my dream and wake up happy

[misty epoch]

👉 🚪

[quartz salmon]

[cinder cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jordan-stop-it-get-some-help-gif-8624482

[quartz salmon]

Ok time to go

Too much pony talk

[storm moth]

is lucy alna cycle ok here?

[restive goblet]

It’s better than without alna

still not fantastic

[misty epoch]

1 last round of this multi

Please god don't crash game

[low iron]

Good luck. 🙏

[lapis moth]

90 retries 20 more floors

can do this

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/441477431501783062/1033698802382675998/Run.gif

[knotty verge]

OMG

my Oden is still e30

how did that happen

[misty epoch]

Just stop being poor

[knotty verge]

😦

[storm moth]

oden or anasta e60

[misty epoch]

Anasta

[low iron]

My oden's still e36 - though I picked up the MP runes. It's not a huge difference in win-rate between e30 and e60 honestly for Oden as it's mostly more stats in a long match and by that time for most situations he's already won in situations where it finally comes into play. It's good to have but I honestly don't think it's a big priority for pvp.

[storm moth]

after that scarlet + wutus + lucy nodes or e60 oden

[low iron]

You'll probably do better saving cores for proper burst and phasing out scarlet rather than investing more into her if she's already decently invested into.

[storm moth]

[knotty verge]

could anyone look over my gear and tell me if I am doing okay or am lacking something? 😐 It is by far the most confusing thing in the game (mostly for TS)

to see it more easily and don't forget about stuff I quickly made a visual for it

since I am lacking gold I just can't up everything. I got up to 13 t3 boxes and a few t4 in my inventory already lol

[dusty zephyr]

I am back to the game after some time and do not really understand treasure scramble. Can someone explain quickly/link a guide please? What formations should I use?

[misty epoch]

Lucy only if pushing hard campaign

[restive goblet]

I put a lot of value on acc/dodge for pvp, so I usually prioritize all AGI gear, then Str weapon and boots, then mage gear

Atk/def from gear might matter a bit in TS, so mage weapons/boots are decent to upgrade too

[knotty verge]

but would you gear heroes like lyca, raine, estrilda that are used as supports in some comps

I am thinking of building geralt for ts soon, his winrate seemed too good to ignore him

[low iron]

Yeah, like Henry said.

[storm moth]

[carmine shale]

Geralt has lowkey been rising in popularity to the point he's becoming a staple in pvp, Yen and geralt are a second dim comp so to speak

[knotty verge]

ooh ok

[dusk tundra]

I need to garrison yen 😠

[low iron]

Ignoring Pets:

• t3 is a big boost to secondary stats like PR/MR and %s. T4 is a slight increase to %s in comparison but has big dodge/acc differences and starts adding into TY and MP/PP.
• 3 t4 dodge on Agi is a big boost in survivability against str, and lets them have a chance to dodge against other Agi who have t4 acc. About 200+ dodge over t4 acc str and usually about 100+ dodge over t4 acc agi. Doesn't help against int who ignore dodge.
• t4 acc on str cancels out most t4 dodge on Int heroes, so t4 on int only really helps against non-t4 Str who don't have the extra acc and for MP. You can assume most str carries have the t4 acc so it's not really that great in the long run against other players outside of the slight stat boost.
• t4 dodge on str always loses against everyone's acc so it doesn't help at all outside of the slight stat boost.
• t4 acc on Agi lets them always ignore dodge on Int and have an okay chance to actually hit other Agis, but even non t4 Acc Agis tend to ignore t4 Ints dodge so it's not as huge a priority as the 3 dodge and is mostly to help against other t4 agis.
• 1 T4 dodge on agi loses to acc on a lot of Str/agi so it doesn't really help much in that department at all. 2 T4 dodge can lose to acc on other Agis but usually gives an okay dodge chance against t4 Str with acc. You really want all 3.

[knotty verge]

ooh thanks a lot!

[restive goblet]

I gave lyca good gear but I haven’t gotten t4 on raine yet. I have estrilda t4 weapon and boots but idk how necessary that is. I’m not sure estrilda needs to actually land her abilities to do her job

I also gave ferael t4 because he gets used so much

[feral coral]

Actually you're wrong but ok

[low iron]

Oh, am I?

That's what I was told from asking ages ago and have written down in a side document for myself but feel free to correct me - I'd be happy to update myself with correct info. I was told that if acc is higher than dodge, dodge is ignored and such.

[feral coral]

I'm joking ofc. I haven't even read what u said

[low iron]

Ah, I see.

[feral coral]

[storm moth]

t80

[obtuse mauve]

I forgot to replace alna with Brawtus in GBs, but still managed a t94

[feral coral]

Abrutus > alna in gbs?

[obtuse mauve]

Yes, Alna is very meh in ice

She's not necessary to keep grez alive, at least

[low iron]

Yeah, the 99% DR at the start of the match helps them to stabilise a lot without her.

And doesn't Grez's ability to shield minions help aBrutus who normally doesn't get a bump from it this debuff?

[feral coral]

I have a lot to learn

[twilit gulch]

Alna is still very good this debuff

[knotty verge]

I actually thought int t4 is the most important and str the least important lol

[low iron]

She's not bad - it's just the reason why some people are using aBrutus over her.

[gilded salmon]

they were talking about the same thing in questions lol and this was posted

oh wait this is just t3

[knotty verge]

it is PvE

and PvE gear isn't that important at higher RC levels

[gilded salmon]

ah damn ok

[knotty verge]

it kinda is but the higher you get the less important it gets. also it is completely out of range in modes like trift

[low iron]

Well - t4 Str for Acc is good on a damage-dealer because it lets them ignore Dodge on Int and more consistently hit Agi heroes, but the other two pieces - the armour and the helmet don't help with that much so they're really just stats.

But unfortunately that in-turn also makes the Dodge on Int not as useful because everyone can hit them if they're invested into - so they're pure stats. But the MP and stuff is always decent and you can still dodge non T4s, just if someone's invested into, it won't really do anything.

[knotty verge]

I will slowly push anasta to t4 then next. thanks

[quartz salmon]

Anasta can stay at t2 for a while I think

I’m just saying that cause madao said he didn’t think t4 on her changed much but I don’t know the reasoning behind it

[knotty verge]

someone said that and 2min later it was t4

[quartz salmon]

Oh lol

[knotty verge]

hahaha

[quartz salmon]

So t4 gud for her ?

Might do her next for strength then

[knotty verge]

since I run wutus invade more often soon I guess it is really important

in my case

[opal bone]

T4 Anasta

[knotty verge]

wutus is already t4 and I don't wanna t4 daimon

[dusk tundra]

Anyone who is E60 worthy should get full T4. I just haven't gotten around to doing her helmet just yet due to other priorities

[knotty verge]

nice, ty

Double lab on monday should sponsor anastas gear

[storm moth]

if i dont see top 60 tommorow i quit ong

[dusk tundra]

T4 on Palmer hat for CDA, T4 on Astar, weapon and helmet first for ATK% and CDA. Then Yen weapon and boots (later hat too), as she's used in every debuff and Ferael probably Weapon and boots as he's pretty useful on freeze debuff

[dusk tundra]

2 teams are not important for your final score in round 1

[storm moth]

i know that

[restive goblet]

lmao I just realized ong is not a misspelling of omg. I feel old

[dusk tundra]

Not knowing what it means is more based

[solemn sage]

Perfectly balanced

[restive goblet]

Should I take somebody off for Geralt

[opal bone]

Why is Estrilda on it even?

[restive goblet]

She’s in every buff 🤷‍♂️

[polar dune]

Real

[opal bone]

So is Rowan, where's his 9F?

[dusk tundra]

Why is Solise there? A better awakened could come out

[polar dune]

So is ferael where is his e80

[opal bone]

But yea remove Estrilda for now

[restive goblet]

I have 600 time cards and like 200k Poe. That’s my current choice but I can swap it out if I decide on someone different

[polar dune]

600 furn cards

Real

[restive goblet]

600 time emblems lol

[polar dune]

Even more kraken than hashi

[opal bone]

Your next Celepog should be on there too.

[dusk tundra]

Nah 9F Estrilda is good, keep on

18 sec>12 sec for buffs is important

[restive goblet]

That’s why I had it on originally yeah

[dusk tundra]

If you decide on someone different those drops would be a waste, if you have 600 cards just build whoever is best at the time

[opal bone]

You have Athane and Wutus, you should really do either Belinda or Baden for CR

Swolise is a poor choice.

[restive goblet]

I’m pretty close to pulling the trigger on Solise, at which point I’ll spend my Poe hoard. I just want to give another couple weeks to see where Belinda shakes out and I haven’t ruled out Baden

[storm moth]

i like that abel has the same wr as 2 op awks

[opal bone]

Wdym, Belinda is broken

Nothing to shake

[polar dune]

This is what I have right now , any recommendations

[opal bone]

Dreaf dupes

[polar dune]

Say less

[storm moth]

where dupes for tree dude

[polar dune]

Same place all your poe is hoe

[lilac bobcat]

Pog

[storm moth]

got me thinking and shi

[restive goblet]

Is that Belinda team good in all three buffs?

[opal bone]

Some version of Belinda is good in every TS buff

But, again, you want Baden or Belinda next for CR

Otherwise you're just trolling

[restive goblet]

I can reliably merc a Baden so maybe I’ll go Belinda.

Someone said you could use her in temporal without mage beacon but I’m not sure I believe that

[polar dune]

Just remember your ABaden merc will have problem while your ABelinda can just be L for most content

Food for thought

Water for drink

[opal bone]

Not Trift, just the current Grand Hunt round.

[polar dune]

Peanut for brain

[restive goblet]

oh rip then maybe I’ll go Baden

[opal bone]

And so far L Abelinda only worked in one CR round and it is quite a bit lower than a built one

[restive goblet]

What round does Abelinda replace usually?

[polar dune]

The round that she did replace

[opal bone]

Well it depends

[lilac sphinx]

Would Athalia at 20si 30e 9furn be useable in this TS?

[dusk tundra]

Solise makes 0 sense, you're in the same position as me Thane + Brutus. You should go with Belinda

[dusk tundra]

You want her SI30 for the bleed effect; that's why she's so good bleed counteracts the damage reduction this debuff

[carmine shale]

You thunk abelinda cycle works in ts if she's L?

Think*

[frozen crest]

no

[polar dune]

Heavily reliant on her sp and pet to stay alive

[lapis moth]

might give it a shot at 6-7 teams tbh

tried her now at 2 teams, think she looks promising

I think a big issue at L is her low cbr so raine/haelus don't work well

definitely broken though

2 shot e60 ainz

[carmine shale]

Interesting

[wise lion]

shud I run whiteball or Owl 6 for agb in this TS?

[restive goblet]

I see a lot of people using white ball, but probably can’t go wrong with either

[twilit gulch]

Vesper is good this debuff

Not sure how good it is at 6 tho

[restive goblet]

I think 12 is where it gets useful

9 might be ok

[solemn sage]

Not sure about fire debuff, built her after it was done

But probably

[indigo quail]

@storm moth help me cheese grez

[indigo quail]

@storm moth help me cheese kaz

@storm moth help me cheese nemora

[proven hearth]

Whales are so bad at this game

[indigo quail]

ded chat

TS-er all left

[gilded salmon]

[indigo quail]

@wise harbor is ur alt still in ch35

[gilded salmon]

[indigo quail]

[wise harbor]

Ya I just forced my way past 35-44

[indigo quail]

Can you check what im using in 35-20

Raku round

[wise harbor]

What name though

[indigo quail]

Myu

[wise harbor]

Wait you're Myu

[indigo quail]

I am

[wise harbor]

I copied some of your stuff to clear

[indigo quail]

hmm ty, how about r4

iirc r1 is luc r3 is cheese right

[indigo quail]

hmm ty

[wise harbor]

Ya R1 Lucretia R3 cheese

[indigo quail]

Need tamrus

[wise harbor]

I saw that trial Tamrus so I was like 'hey it's almost over maybe I should like, pass one at least'

[indigo quail]

Im using olgath trial to push

My goal is to reach ch37 tmr or sunday

[wise harbor]

Okay cool Lucretia 5 pull is getting me through singles

35-48 now and Tamrus is gone

[raven lark]

8%? 💀 didnt think its that bad

[indigo quail]

T59 r43

[raven lark]

surely this works

[granite mason]

Cycle sucks

unless its bel cycle i guess

[raven lark]

dont have anything else

[granite mason]

Ldv raku

[raven lark]

is this the debuff where ldv is op

[granite mason]

nope but its better than cycle

[raven lark]

aight

running this then

[granite mason]

do u have neva

[raven lark]

ye but shes +20 and mythic+

[granite mason]

neva wolise stronk

[raven lark]

gottta build her

[carmine shale]

Finally hit master lol

[trail swift]

star2 with zero buffer

gonna finish at daimond

[carmine shale]

I spent 1000 diamonds basically for it...overall worth it but not by much?

3 stargazer and 1 t4 difference for 1000 diamonds is worth it I guess though

[restive goblet]

[carmine shale]

I've noticed that trend amongst dolphins

E60 everything but e80 awakens, can't blame them though

[storm moth]

[indigo quail]

[storm moth]

how

2%

[frozen crest]

how fat is your palmer now?

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

only 203

gonna use him for joa in ainz

[frozen crest]

try that instead of yen

[storm moth]

hmm

@sturdy elbow what wr on that wutus gbs team

[storm moth]

and you too

what wr on wutus gbs

[frozen crest]

65

ainz 77 cycle 45

[storm moth]

dam

[trail swift]

203 yenn vs m20 mortas go

[polar dune]

pretty sure thats just standard thinking

[still heron]

Team 1 sücks ngl

[restive goblet]

My Wutus Gb has a higher wr than ainz

Ainz was only 54 though

[storm moth]

give abel pls

[still heron]

Nou

[storm moth]

gib awk swap scroll then

[still heron]

Nou

[opal bone]

How are you 2% with 2 Aws?

Massive skill drought

34th, backline eorin experiment didn't work.

[icy surge]

He needs to ult I believe.. A lot

[opal bone]

He is good this debuff.

[storm moth]

maybe because everyone in t100 has 2 awks+?

[opal bone]

You sure about that?

[crude sundial]

Any replacement for yenn?

[opal bone]

Invest in your Yen

[crude sundial]

Dont have her and cant garrison her

[opal bone]

I guess that means you're in a new region so just use w/e other dims and maybe a mortas

[crude sundial]

Kk thx

[indigo quail]

shitty mode

[knotty verge]

alna lucy cycle bad this debuff?

[tropic birch]

90% for me but luc + alna+ gb

[lilac bobcat]

Cause that's not a proper alna luc

[quartz salmon]

welp im at 3%

why does every scramble feel harder and harder

[trail swift]

is LDV e33

[frozen crest]

36 haste is

[frozen crest]

because ppl improve faster than u do

[trail swift]

ah kk

[frozen crest]

it“s 3 teams

[quartz salmon]

ok but how

[frozen crest]

idk man

they could spend

they could full fledged focus ts

or ur teams bad

also it's 3 teams

rank is still not determined

[quartz salmon]

this kinda makes me less enjoy the game ngl

like knowing i'll get worse and worse score and at a point i wont be able to compete anymore

[frozen crest]

sad

[trail swift]

90% of TS is awk count

[quartz salmon]

time to build an alt

[trail swift]

bad luck pulling awks can = MONTHS of difference in ascension

rly dumb.

[quartz salmon]

kinda true yeah

[icy surge]

Be prepared to see another lilith "improvement" soon, aka more zones merge

[trail swift]

lel

[icy surge]

It will end just like fabled

[quartz salmon]

yikes

[trail swift]

can't really be improved though can it

beyond like limiting how many awk you can use in ts

[icy surge]

Well, it can, for lilith incomes

I know well, that ts will end just like fabled

Just for whales

[quartz salmon]

yup

[icy surge]

It's enought one more servers merge, and that is, game over

[trail swift]

meh, i mean even shitty placement like 10%, the rewards are still worth doing TS for

[storm moth]

im 2% with 2 awks

idk what im doing wrong ngl

my teams are not bad

[quartz salmon]

well yeah but not being in t100 gets the fun out of ts imo

[icy surge]

Pets are bad

[quartz salmon]

smoku lets get real here

[trail swift]

i think i might hate pets more than awakened

tbh

[quartz salmon]

r38 is new whale region

[trail swift]

but mostly cause the way lilith went about them. making huge chances to pets back to pack, not offering a full reset

people who got baited into baiting early got screwed.

[quartz salmon]

everyone in 38 has 2 awks + lvl 12 reso + a shit ton of e60

[trail swift]

changes**

i'm 38 lol i don't think i'll ever top100 but getting around 0.x% - 3% is ok with me reward wise

[icy surge]

I play 5 accounts, all are between r4/9

[storm moth]

yeah we are fucked here

[quartz salmon]

i didnt know you were r38 tewi

[quartz salmon]

in 3/4 ts ill probably be out of t100

I drop 5 places every ts

[storm moth]

like asta can get away with no alna in r37 and raku isnt even trying and is t30 always in r39

[quartz salmon]

yeah

[trail swift]

damn

[quartz salmon]

r39 is fr free region

[trail swift]

i didn't know r38 was so hard relatively

[quartz salmon]

r38 is objectively much harder than r39

like way harder

[storm moth]

and idk how mingles has so many e60s tbh

[quartz salmon]

he spends on his alt doesnt he

[storm moth]

he said hes f2p here

[quartz salmon]

hmm

[trail swift]

i'm like a year in and only have three e60+

4 actually

e61 grez, e65 lucy, e60 mishka+abrutus

[quartz salmon]

well if he is f2p the difference is he knew what he was doing chapter 0 to 36 and advance faster than us, so he has more

[trail swift]

i can afford to e60+ an e4x like scarlet but saving for anasta or somethin

[storm moth]

idk even if he knew it doesnt seem possible that he has 5 more than us or so

[quartz salmon]

scarlet probably better if you can e68 her

• if she is 5*

[quartz salmon]

maybe he took cores from noble and us pleb got poe

but still

[trail swift]

she's 4*+1 copy so pretty close, but i figured getting an entirely new hero to e60 would add more value to ts

especially if it's anasta or somethin

[quartz salmon]

probably yeah

[icy surge]

Nah

[lime zinc]

Scarlet is pretty bad in red and blue ts but ok in multihit

[icy surge]

This debuff, she s bad af

[trail swift]

i use her in every TS cause if not her it'd be some random bs team anyway

[quartz salmon]

Im not talkign ts specific, just scarlet e68 to me is more prio than anasta e60

[trail swift]

not enough heroes yet

[lime zinc]

'Not enough heroes' never ends lmoa

[trail swift]

well anasta not necessarily e60 but she's e0, so it'd still take some cores to get to e4x breakpoint

[trail swift]

anasta's e60 skill looks pretty hot tho

[icy surge]

[quartz salmon]

smoku if you cant compete in ts anymore what do you do

quit or build an alt

[lime zinc]

Anasta is a good e60, make sure you have 9f first though

[icy surge]

I haven't used a lot anasta yet

Maybe for 6th team

[lime zinc]

She's not in many TS unless you're low on units or running AwBrutus invade

[icy surge]

And not bad at all

It's rlly complicated to build teams from scratches

[trail swift]

maybe i'd be better off just stalling anasta for now and saving for palmer.. i still need to build astar, anasta, palmer, nevanthi up

[lime zinc]

I ran her on red with budget invade and use her in blue in a super weird team

[icy surge]

Nothing works as intended

[trail swift]

for the 'easy to get' heroes anyway

[storm moth]

idk push campaign, play cr and try to stay 1% in ts

[icy surge]

I got em all, not a big diff

[lime zinc]

Scarlet e60 is important for TR and some CR?

[icy surge]

Scarlet it's just awesome everywhere

I can't complain

[lime zinc]

Everywhere other than TS

[icy surge]

Well, she may be good with a diff team, but hey, mages are all about energy

[lime zinc]

Ig it'd still help TS a lot for budget comps tho

[icy surge]

This debuff suck for mages

[quartz salmon]

idk what i'll do, the feeling of building an alt faster than anyone else f2p in a new server and getting t50 is quite exciting

[trail swift]

ainz seems kinda nice this debuff

i mean just cause the way his kit works i guess

delayed dmg

[lime zinc]

This is the best TS for ainz

[knotty verge]

do you use ainz with ldv or with yen?

[trail swift]

wish i had ldv :q

i'm trying to decide between m20 mortas and 203 yenn

[icy surge]

I believe that Mortas it's the best

[lime zinc]

I use ainz dims with yen, my LDV doesn't have e60

[icy surge]

Now, I guess that a better Mortas a better win rate

[trail swift]

i usually use yenn but mortas has an almost guaranteed ult this debuff

[knotty verge]

prob M200 mortas, not L right?

[icy surge]

Yeah, but ive seen l also

Winning

[storm moth]

oh yeah that does sound kinda fun

[quartz salmon]

why the rakuhmm

[lime zinc]

I think my 30360 Yen does slightly better than 303e0 Mortas

[knotty verge]

create an alt now and lets compete

[quartz salmon]

build an alt with me on same server and have a competition

[quartz salmon]

what server

[knotty verge]

I am ch3 s1048

[quartz salmon]

isnt 1051 out?

[knotty verge]

no

1048 is latest

[quartz salmon]

oh ok

@storm moth create an alt s1048 now

[storm moth]

ogey

[icy surge]

Is this Olgath good for ts?? Or I should go for ruke?

[storm moth]

you on android?

[lapis moth]

chimera better

[feral coral]

U gonna do it?

I might join as well in that case

[icy surge]

Well, that's good, cuz im at l already with it

Saving diamonds for it, and gazers to star my aw solise soon

[storm moth]

yeah why not

[knotty verge]

is trad scarlet burst bad this debuff? Idk which 4teams to run

[opal bone]

???

Sir, I am only true f2p in this channel.

[storm moth]

dam 2nd 10 pull

[knotty verge]

new main confirmed

[opal bone]

Gazing Zol

[still heron]

Do singles bish

[knotty verge]

this is ch2 alt

[icy surge]

[opal bone]

Oh, then that's an awful pull

[knotty verge]

I did all my pulls and no daimon

maybe neva carry or so

[icy surge]

Isn't scarlet doing better?

[knotty verge]

ofc, just no copies

[icy surge]

Well, u can just buy a deal and get free daimon

[knotty verge]

spending on alts is sus

[icy surge]

Or "free"

[knotty verge]

I could just get a deal on main instead

[icy surge]

Most of newbies don't know that you need more than one copy for every hero

[knotty verge]

omg this is so stupid, I got daimons dream comp but no daimon

already lyca and eironn

[quartz salmon]

Yh mb I though you spent a bit, just low spender nothing crazy

[quartz salmon]

Wow

Are you actually gonna build an alt @storm moth ?

[quartz salmon]

No Iphoen

[knotty verge]

ah I never asked but why do you even want to buy an E athalia copy in challenger prio? I swear I never used it

[storm moth]

sure why not

[quartz salmon]

[knotty verge]

we need to build some abaden or other important CR mercs for the main

[quartz salmon]

You gonna build it enough to compete in ts?

If you and yuu do an alt in 1048 I might fr do the same

And destroy you in ts

[opal bone]

Just try and get an account from someone instead, building alts is pain

[quartz salmon]

Yeah but we want someone in 1048 that didn’t do monkey start

[storm moth]

nah im gonna play it normally

[quartz salmon]

@still heron can you build an alt for me in s1048 please

[storm moth]

i have one but its worse than mine

[quartz salmon]

And give it to me in like 2/3 months

[lapis moth]

mostly for thoran cheese rounds

tho you could probably sub her most times

[frozen crest]

or find ppl to merc from

[knotty verge]

oh ok makes sense

[lapis moth]

maybe some tower use

[still heron]

Hell no

[quartz salmon]

Why not

Wow

You are mean

Can even do that for me smh

[knotty verge]

we can ask the whole discord to create an alt in s1048 and I swear this server and ts region will be harder than r1

[still heron]

I have an alt, quit after 1 day

[quartz salmon]

That’s not the point

[knotty verge]

I was joking around haha

[quartz salmon]

Me too, I did that with 5 accounts

I’m very good with commitment dw

[granite mason]

[knotty verge]

I don't even have an alt that I can push friendship scrolls from mercing for

[storm moth]

dew it

[granite mason]

I have 10 alts

ez

[quartz salmon]

Gimmi one

[lapis moth]

[granite mason]

wut do u want

scarlet merc

waden merc

[knotty verge]

me want abaden merc

[granite mason]

whane merc

ldv merc

[quartz salmon]

[granite mason]

Creating alt for merc

[lapis moth]

max ulmus merc

[granite mason]

@tropic cave

^

[knotty verge]

don't joke about ulmus, next wilder awk ulmus hopefully

[lapis moth]

[knotty verge]

no one wants a tasi

[granite mason]

ofc

[copper sphinx]

mosquito is annoying enough to not have an aw version

[tropic cave]

??

[granite mason]

he wants max ulmus merc

[lapis moth]

was joking

[granite mason]

dont joke on ulmus

[tropic cave]

i have a maxed ulmus...

[granite mason]

u d^mba$$

[quartz salmon]

Madao rude

[lapis moth]

[quartz salmon]

Madao teasing Wolf

[tropic cave]

Gotta get a recent pic, brb

[granite mason]

bye

[copper sphinx]

so what teams is everyone using this TS

[lapis moth]

good teams

[granite mason]

morrow cycle

[knotty verge]

thoran cheese

[copper sphinx]

[knotty verge]

you swim in money wow

[tropic cave]

im super broke lol

[knotty verge]

did u refund or why -114124 gems

[granite mason]

swim in debt

[tropic cave]

refunded $120

[lapis moth]

[quartz salmon]

Can you only refun ARs and KT ARs ?

[lapis moth]

dat wolise tho

[tropic cave]

had to get Tamrus maxed

[granite mason]

DO IT

[knotty verge]

can you do fast rewards or shop refreshes with negative gems?

[granite mason]

ASAP

[tropic cave]

its done already

[granite mason]

3036e80 when

[lapis moth]

do you still have a swap scroll

[tropic cave]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[tropic cave]

not at all

[lapis moth]

[knotty verge]

I am glad there is no PvP mode for factions only, you would be the wilder endboss

[tropic cave]

that would be cool and cap the level at 500

[granite mason]

he actually isnt

There are some wilder lovers I alr met

like leviosa gorvo simp

[knotty verge]

gabe would be gb end boss

[tropic cave]

i tried racing her to max 3036 when gorvo came out

[granite mason]

[tropic cave]

i lost... and then reset my gorvo

[granite mason]

[quartz salmon]

But… he quit

[knotty verge]

no he will quit after new gb, not yet

first he wants to max it

[knotty verge]

since you are retired can I reserve waden merc?

[tropic cave]

if the next aw forest baby isnt Ulmus ill probably quit

[granite mason]

ofc

how about L waden

[knotty verge]

better than no waden, so yeah sure

[granite mason]

143734623

add

[knotty verge]

get it done by reset 0:00 to 3036e80 and everything will be fine

that name is legend

[tropic cave]

so no one wants to merc my Swolmus....

[knotty verge]

I would love to merc your swolise sometimes

[tropic cave]

got room, im on s69

[knotty verge]

added

[tropic cave]

meong?

[knotty verge]

yes

[tropic cave]

added

[knotty verge]

thank you

[tropic cave]

you're welcome

[lilac bobcat]

[feral coral]

@storm moth name or id

[lilac bobcat]

Poe hoe

Just search

The one with bikini ulmus

[feral coral]

I want his alt

[meager dove]

Can someone help me do teams?

Those are the % with my first 2 teams

[frozen crest]

why does ainz have si30

and albedo doesnt

[indigo quail]

[meager dove]

i have albedo 27(= im doing the 30

[indigo quail]

[meager dove]

want another jumpscare news? im doing first ainz of albedo(in garrison) so i need like only 1 for complete the six time with ainz but i need other 4 with albedo(=

[knotty verge]

that's actually good news. double garrison wastes tons of lab coins anyway

[meager dove]

oh k

[meager dove]

i m doing ainz then albedo and when she come out in garrison i was thinking to do yennifer there is someone to do before her?

[knotty verge]

yen is next

rn it is ainzbedo > yen > queen > ezio > geralt but it will prob change a lot

[storm moth]

150473062

[sturdy elbow]

62%, quite decent

[frozen crest]

what were your rates on baden?

[sturdy elbow]

Very good rates, 278 cards for 10 copies

[frozen crest]

holy shit

you're f2p right

[meager dove]

isnt prince usefull in some comps?

[sturdy elbow]

Yeah if you can call spending around 40 bucks that

[frozen crest]

pog

firefly isnt f2p

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/441477431501783062/1063445165756383242/1043039053966233631.gif

[steady hill]

well it only needs 12 to shine

[obtuse mauve]

No first purchase ad, no f2p, it's the rule

[steady hill]

its doable for hodl ppl

[feral coral]

Ok but I forgot now I'm 14%

[steady hill]

that ainz comp is cursed ngl

no bedo?

[meager dove]

i have her si27 + havent garrisoned her cause im still garrisoning ainz(i need another garrison and then i have free ainz)

[sturdy elbow]

Yep definitely don't count myself as one

[obtuse mauve]

I'm f2p, not by my own choice though 💸

[frozen crest]

im also f2p

[trail swift]

i'm p2f

[lapis moth]

f2p gang

[steady hill]

same

[obtuse mauve]

I need that f2p certificate

[knotty verge]

no. not worth the ressources

[obtuse mauve]

So I can join the gang

[steady hill]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/825209142884040735/1067412400933969980/F2P_ID_6.jpg

verified

[granite mason]

tf why running 5p in this debuff

5p luc is a kind of burst sir

[meager dove]

same for joker and the other 2?

[knotty verge]

I will try luc alna 5p next sromble

[feral coral]

I forgot to change it

[granite mason]

[knotty verge]

yes. you just need ainzbedo for a long time until you finish both

[meager dove]

oh k thx

[flat flume]

Oh it started

[granite mason]

do you forget to change teams

[feral coral]

I always do

[trail swift]

ts teams are annoying af tbh

especially if you're actively progressing

every damn week gotta tinker with teams...7 different times

wish you could clone teams in a rank to another rank

or 2 weeks. however long ts lasts :q

[lilac bobcat]

[storm moth]

hmm im gonna use it

[granite mason]

show wr

[obtuse mauve]

They should force it to 4 teams in the first week, then 7 teams in the second week. Only 2 sets to worry about

[storm moth]

after round ends

[granite mason]

[still heron]

Imagine thats u @lapis moth

[lapis moth]

[raven lark]

did u do 10s or singles

[quartz salmon]

I think that’s the best debuff for him

But overall not that great imo

Just extremely good for cr

And tower ig

[lapis moth]

I mean woke skill

[quartz salmon]

Oh

I don’t know

[storm moth]

hes good wdym

i want wanda tho

[feral coral]

I want them all

[still heron]

[lapis moth]

nvm I'm stupid

[sturdy elbow]

10s and singles alternating

[raven lark]

👍

might test my luck w 250 cards soon lmao

[twilit gulch]

[restive goblet]

has anybody had any luck with scarlet?

[twilit gulch]

How do ppl get awk in 300 cards

[raven lark]

getting 3 copies

[twilit gulch]

Wtf

[opal bone]

Luck is inversely proportionate to skill.

[feral coral]

Elaborate

[opal bone]

Skill issued people get Aws in 300 cards.

[knotty verge]

edit 15tot 15 gazers 375 core 375 baits

[gilded salmon]

oh hell yeah that means I'll probably get in like 250 then

[indigo quail]

whale

[knotty verge]

no I am just curious cause everyone is like deluxe chest is the best item

[gilded salmon]

with a 25% chance you would get 15 tc

[knotty verge]

Wait am I stupid

omg

[gilded salmon]

lol

[knotty verge]

math

how did I calculate it wrong

[obtuse mauve]

I'd never purchase something that's still to be luck tested

[gilded salmon]

I would've bought it but last time it showed up I got screwed on tc and I don't want that to happen again. It is a really good deal though regardless

Also red chests are higher value than most other things there btw, if you still have high prio si30s

[knotty verge]

yeah you are right it is ofc not 30 tot

it messed me up but the deal is good

[knotty verge]

when you reach a point where everything else is more important than reds its value becomes so bad haha

[gilded salmon]

Yeah edited my comment haha

I forget other people are way ahead of me >_>

[trail swift]

geezus 4%. getting dumped on this ts

[granite mason]

kinda good

but

[knotty verge]

I am super broke so I will continue my almost f2p journey

I can't deny I bought an Advancement pack before

[granite mason]

buying wish boxes considering whel

[knotty verge]

[vernal vessel]

[twilit gulch]

[granite mason]

hi kraken

[knotty verge]

it is weird that you are not madao anymore

[vernal vessel]

You probably bought the whole pack

[twilit gulch]

Just the $15

[granite mason]

whale

[knotty verge]

how many tot did u get

[twilit gulch]

Idk

Not that many

Mostly got SGs

[knotty verge]

sg is good too

[vernal vessel]

Gimme

[molten sparrow]

I now have Astar, is there a team that I can build with her that will be better than any of the other ones I'm currently using?

Also, in my Alna Lucreita cycle, should I be using Desira?

[granite mason]

astar isnt strong this debuff

keep Alna

[molten sparrow]

I know. I was wondering if there was someone like Ezizh or Rowan that I could replace Desira with

[granite mason]

nope

thats the core of cycle

[feral coral]

What do I run instead of lucy cycle @storm moth

[wet nest]

What’s the lucretia cycle?

[storm moth]

lucy cycle with alna?

[feral coral]

So alna lucy ezizh rowan twins?

[granite mason]

[molten sparrow]

So, I don't have to change anything with any of my teams?

[granite mason]

yeah
you have bad rank because u r in old region

[molten sparrow]

And because I took a break awhile back

[granite mason]

@knotty verge am I in t100

[knotty verge]

who are you again

[granite mason]

su

[knotty verge]

wait is this your main wow

[granite mason]

nope

[knotty verge]

the lvl 155 tree

[granite mason]

ah yes

[knotty verge]

wow

can't you reset? I read it in the CR guides everytime

[granite mason]

My branches is low

[knotty verge]

lol how am I t52

luc 5p op this debuff

[granite mason]

Never buying juice from events/chests, just wait for it to come naturally through TR

[granite mason]

[knotty verge]

you are not in t100

[granite mason]

guess tasi isnt that great

[knotty verge]

t52 🦍

[granite mason]

nice luc5p

[knotty verge]

oh lol

ah I changed it to luc 5p in 4teams

[alpine grove]

Is Scarlett good this round?

[knotty verge]

but I saw t3 has a 2-8% wr so I should swap scarlet burst out, right?

[granite mason]

I remembered that previous buff I got top 6% first day and somehow end up in t100

yeah scarlet burst isnt good this buff

[knotty verge]

so what could I run instead?

[granite mason]

ldv raku maybe

[knotty verge]

mishka anasta raku ldv kren?

[granite mason]

maybe
or astar in ldv raku and safiya in 5p

[knotty verge]

yeah astar instead of anasta 3f seems better

[granite mason]

or lorsan

[knotty verge]

btw which pet should I use for 5p? my dim team has talis already. also blade ridge or green ball for raku ldv? I keep forgetting the pets

dims tali, wutus gb owl, raku ldv x, luc alna 5p y

[granite mason]

new pet for raku ldv

or polar

[knotty verge]

moth lvl 6 is okay?

[granite mason]

maybe

[alpine grove]

Would nevi fit in raku ldv by any chance

[low iron]

Polar helps guarantee a lot of cc from both int/str allies. Moth just helps boost the IS of str allies and then boosts dps of normal attacks and highest DPS ally.

[knotty verge]

blade ridge 9 okay for alna luc 5p?

[granite mason]

I'd use lion tbh

[low iron]

Moth increases dps of Raku more if you can land the cc, but Polar drastically increases IS of the team and gives middle back one free cc depending on level which makes it so the CC has a much higher chance of landing against a lot of teams with how much TY people have now.

[knotty verge]

so polar 6 > moth 6 in my case?

[low iron]

Depends on your polar's IS and investment into Int and the team you're using.

[granite mason]

150 energy might be good for ldv

[knotty verge]

polar is equally lvl 6

[granite mason]

"might"

[low iron]

2 in Int doesn't give any IS from what I remember and a lot of the training benefits aren't until 9, so you'd probably be better with moth in that case for the aspd/damage on raku.

[knotty verge]

like all my pets are equally leveld and blade 9 and lion 8 are the only ones above lvl 6

if alna luc 5p has a worse wr than alna luc cycle I will switch back to 40% wr cycle

[feral coral]

Similar wr but I'm 8%

[granite mason]

luc 5p is a kind of burst

[knotty verge]

hmm so I should stick to cycle probably

should I do dims greenball and luc alna cycle talis then?

[granite mason]

maybe

[knotty verge]

I will try. If I drop out of t80 I will cry like a baby

also I just suggested to make pets visible in TS team formations. The pet struggle is real

[abstract spade]

if i join a new server, will i get good rewards from this game mode? or will i compete with players from other servers?

[low iron]

If you join a new server, you'll be placed in a region that the server resides in.

[abstract spade]

and a region is multiple servers?

[low iron]

So Region 41 or whatever it is now for the highest current server.

Regions contain multiple servers, yeah.

[abstract spade]

ah, so if i really want to get full rewards, i'd have to wait not just for a new server to start, but also a new region?

[low iron]

The oldest server in a region is at a slight advantage compared to the youngest, but you'll be placed more with people who started at around the same time as you compared to older servers anyway.

Regions have different degrees of whales though so it's not always a guarantee that you'll do well, even in a new server/region. Some newer regions have more active whales than some older ones - but your account starting dates will be more equal.

[abstract spade]

gotcha. i just want general rewards. cause people said i should start over on a new server since i'll get better rewards

[obtuse mauve]

If you are thinking of picking a first server in a region, others are as well. These servers tend to have the largest whale populations

[abstract spade]

hopefully 1049 comes out soon

[abstract spade]

ah interesting. that's actually one of the reasons i'm hoping 1049 comes out today or tomorrow, cause i feel like if i start on a server that opens on the weekend, it'll have a lot of casuals

then those people will just stop playing during the week

[low iron]

It really depends, you never really know if a server will be swarmed with whales or not - but with a newer server, you don't have to worry about starting behind which is a good advantage itself usually.

[obtuse mauve]

True. I didn't really measure anything, it's just my experience from other gachas mostly

[abstract spade]

gotcha. that makes sense though

[low iron]

Right - yeah. You basically have to just hope you're in a good server/region if you're starting with a new server and you usually don't find out how many whales or dolphins or what have you are really in there until a week or so after once things start to settle and people spend their money.

[obtuse mauve]

I also suspect LC regions are more coveted than TS regions, for whales

[low iron]

Yeah, probably.

[abstract spade]

sorry what's LC

[low iron]

Legends Championship - so you have a 3v3 mode that pops up once you start playing and get far enough, and the top 10 in your server's 3v3 are moved into the running for LC, which is a 64-man PvP 'tournament'.

Similar to TS, LC has it's own server regions, and some people will try to move to servers with easier regions if they can and want to show off in LC as a lot of older regions are pretty established.

[abstract spade]

ah interesting thanks

[twilit gulch]

[misty epoch]

Wutus bad

[lapis moth]

[obtuse mauve]

Alna is bad

[twilit gulch]

[granite mason]

[knotty verge]

was oden e60 a huge thing for older players? I see everyone having oden e60

[opal bone]

Oden e60 still great

What are you talking about

[low iron]

Oden e60 was a big push for CR/Campaign and saw some use in PVP. When engravings came out especially - he's not bad at all now either, just awakened heroes and stuff are popping up and moving priorities.

Similar to e60 Grez though Grez has started dropping off in a lot of places he's used in PvP and stuff, but when engravings came out, a lot of people invested into safe options that were meta because there was a big burst of cores that everyone got - enough to e60 1 or 2 heroes without much worry. Not hard of a fall as Ainz though.

[late remnant]

Just fought the same person 15 times in a row

[low iron]

Hopefully they were wins.

[late remnant]

7 wins 8 losses

But at least I gained 20 pts overall

[low iron]

[late remnant]

Now 9 & 9

[proven hearth]

Baelinda struggling more in 3 teams than 2

[feral coral]

What are ur other teams wr?

[restive goblet]

100% wr after 36 fights

[obtuse mauve]

T47 right now

[feral coral]

I'm sad that I have to be in a harder region

[sacred notch]

VeriL

[feral coral]

VeriSad

[obtuse mauve]

I'm sad for you too, very sad

[feral coral]

Back to 10%

[obtuse mauve]

10% is odd, even for a harder region... Did you start in an older server or take a break or something?

[feral coral]

No breaks. As far as I know, original owner of the acc began day 1 of the server.

[proven hearth]

Pretty nice right?

[proven hearth]

Cycle is a very shaky comp

[granite mason]

still rank 1?

[feral coral]

He's rank 2

[quartz salmon]

Finally

[gilded salmon]

nice

[lapis moth]

[quartz salmon]

Welp with t4

[lapis moth]

how does your whane team wr look like

[quartz salmon]

Haven’t tried with Lyca yet

I had rowan pos4 apparently?

46% with rowan

[granite mason]

[lapis moth]

[granite mason]

what neva does there when there is no summoner

[lapis moth]

try classic whane sir

[obtuse mauve]

Neva does a lot

[lapis moth]

just copy from mingles gg

[granite mason]

does what

[obtuse mauve]

Heal, damage mitigation/reflection, energy (attack buff is only for summoner, mb). At +30 would counter anti heals too

[granite mason]

doesnt she needs e30 to give luc the arbor refuge thingy
and atk rating only for summoner or i read it wrong

203 desira is much better in luc cycle than neva

heal, dmg/acc reduction and rh+dodge bonus

[obtuse mauve]

That's a bold statement. What does desira do in there?

[proven hearth]

Uh no. Ghibly too kraken for me

[granite mason]

[granite mason]

^

[civic sage]

Ideally, you'd use neither in Luc Cycle

[granite mason]

Ideally, you shouldnt use Luc Cycle

[civic sage]

That's not true

[granite mason]

That's not true

[civic sage]

It is true

[granite mason]

It isnt

[civic sage]

[granite mason]

Who will you use in luc cycle when alna is in gbs and u dont have haelus

[obtuse mauve]

Bawlinda cycle is ideal today

[granite mason]

spammers

[civic sage]

My point was that for an average player in a new region who does not have access to Belinda (which Proxy mentioned below), Lucretia Cycle is still relevant. Haelus is who you use, which is why I'm stating that your point about Desi being better than Neva in Luc Cycle is completely irrelevant on how good Neva is (as well as the fact that idek which is better)

Although, I assume you'll just try to state why Desi is good and overlook what I've said

[granite mason]

@quartz salmon @storm moth do you have haelus
yeah desi is better than neva is what im saying, and a cheap hero to run in luc cycle when u dont have haelus

[civic sage]

An invested Desira would be, but no one is investing into Desira for a long time

[obtuse mauve]

I'm not sold on Desi 203 > Neva 203. They overlap a lot in what they do, but it seems to me that nevas energy buff may be very good for cycle in general

[granite mason]

203 sir

[civic sage]

Desira shouldn't be a furniture consideration, and Neva is a high priority build

[storm moth]

we dont

oh asta

[civic sage]

200 max

203 is a waste

[storm moth]

help me

[civic sage]

[granite mason]

she is still used in rift

[civic sage]

Doesn't mean anything, still a bad decision early on

[storm moth]

help me

[civic sage]

She will be replaced quickly

[granite mason]

invest on an hero who you use like 5 or 6 months before ascessing to haelus is never be a waste

[civic sage]

Yes it is

[storm moth]

idk my desi is 200

and shes doing fine

[civic sage]

Have you tried Oden?

[storm moth]

nope

[granite mason]

[storm moth]

alna whane front?

[civic sage]

Why aren't you running Palmer in Whane?

[obtuse mauve]

Is thane wind thing working in this ts, or is it considered a shield?

[storm moth]

cuz he not doing shit to whane at 203

[civic sage]

Yen in Ainz and Palmer in Whane is what I'd presume to be more useful

[lapis moth]

a bit inflated from climbing tho

but looks solid

[storm moth]

my sonja 200 M+

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

1 copy from A tho

and 4f from 9f

[lapis moth]

maybe could try astar

[storm moth]

you think i should try and use her still?

[civic sage]

What I would do is keep that Wutus GB team, move Palmer to Whane and replace Palmer with Yen in Ainz

idk the optimal Whane setup though

[obtuse mauve]

Maybe put Anasta in thane team, she's not needed in Brutus gbs

[lapis moth]

good suggestions ☝️

[storm moth]

idk without her gbs were at 60%

[obtuse mauve]

I see

[storm moth]

skreg for astar?

[granite mason]

why

[storm moth]

fym why

dr at the start

[granite mason]

but its reduced alr..

the debuff

and she cant give shield..

why talis also

[storm moth]

talis is op with whane sir

[civic sage]

You can try that

[granite mason]

is it 9+

[storm moth]

his still op sir

[storm moth]

with astar or skreg

[civic sage]

Skreg

[storm moth]

[granite mason]

then it'll follow raine or palmer

what will it do for whane

[storm moth]

ult

talis ult

[granite mason]

wut

is it worth to use talis just for the blind

[storm moth]

uhh yeah

[granite mason]

[obtuse mauve]

I use talis 7 with Brutus for the atk and pp buff. It's one of the few pets with decent offensive stats for str

[lilac sphinx]

@storm moth you and I have similar box’s. I will show you my 3t and wr in a sec

[storm moth]

ogey

[lilac sphinx]

What I am planing on using next scramble and what I am using atm

[granite mason]

anasta 3f

and why ainz isnt behind arthur

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

what region?