treasure-scramble

[lapis moth]

do you think lorsan M si0 makes a difference

[opal bone]

Shouldn't

As long as he casts link that's pretty much it

Only diff would be furn

[frozen crest]

m0 gives haste

so if the situation calls for it

sure

[lapis moth]

how much rng was your r1

[frozen crest]

imagine being 2 months ahead and only 100m more in cr

[cinder cargo]

I didn't know TS had boss rounds

[lapis moth]

might fodder some stuff

[cinder cargo]

[gaunt marten]

well wheres the cr channel

[lapis moth]

cuz my poverty lorsan doesn't seem to work

[frozen crest]

sec

[opal bone]

I don't do CR investment, or p2w like you and asta

[obtuse mauve]

@opal bone did you go back to ainz? How did it fare? Im genuinely curious, please indulge me

[cinder cargo]

1 sec let me find the link

[frozen crest]

let me check 40 rounds

[lapis moth]

sorry sir

[cinder cargo]

#taverns-chat-room

[frozen crest]

your loss

[cinder cargo]

[opal bone]

I did, 54%

[gaunt marten]

i didnt ask where the smartass channel is

[lapis moth]

is this a real channel

[gaunt marten]

yes

[lapis moth]

cuz I can't click it

[frozen crest]

shoo mod wannabe

[gaunt marten]

its what the role gets you

[frozen crest]

not for the white

[opal bone]

@obtuse mauve Also moved Joan back frontline

[cinder cargo]

The running emote later was meant to show that it was a joke

[frozen crest]

still

[cinder cargo]

[opal bone]

JD is honorary server admin

[gaunt marten]

lmao

ig i will just run cr while i play dks1

[lapis moth]

still can't see it

[frozen crest]

hmm

[lapis moth]

gib tips pls

[frozen crest]

skill issues

[lapis moth]

should I fodder more respends*

[frozen crest]

sec let me

[lapis moth]

[frozen crest]

take a bath

[obtuse mauve]

[gaunt marten]

wow afk player that showers

[polar dune]

Sounds like a sht room

[cinder cargo]

[polar dune]

what do you want nerd

Go grind ur l33tcode

[cinder cargo]

I don't want anything. I'm just displaying my unimpressedness .

[polar dune]

[flat flume]

That red hurts my eye

[lapis moth]

[dreamy relic]

Is that it

[frozen crest]

@lapis moth

it is indeed high rng

[steady hill]

look at the white instead

[flat flume]

[lapis moth]

damn

[frozen crest]

u get free dmg with wolise and whane so u could prob do 12b+++

but if rng sucks then it is what it is

[lapis moth]

whane actually not mandatory here

people do same damage without it

[frozen crest]

what dmg do u get?

[lapis moth]

for boss round? around 1.6b

[frozen crest]

ic

[lapis moth]

someone tell the people at my workplace to let my hit my CR already

so rude

[frozen crest]

it's 12pm, shouldnt there be a break

[lapis moth]

nice memory sir

no specific break I take breaks when here and there

[frozen crest]

then take it now

problem solved

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/441477431501783062/1063445165756383242/1043039053966233631.gif

[knotty verge]

I got Palmer A and juicy 50 gold emblems. It is the first time I got the rewards in time lol

[lapis moth]

11.8b

and spent like 1500 diamonds

need to get hodge 9f

[frozen crest]

not bad not bad

too many tries

what % is that

[lapis moth]

46%

[frozen crest]

ic

this cr is actually hard

[lapis moth]

yeah cuz r3 like designed for old players

[frozen crest]

what was your r1 peak

[lapis moth]

3b+

hodge better than queen

[frozen crest]

cool cool

[lapis moth]

need 9f

[frozen crest]

and that r5 actually works

lemme do it next time

[opal bone]

Sir, pretty sure that wasn't worth the diamonds

[lapis moth]

like 70% of it was cuz of failed belinda trial

[opal bone]

That's a weird R5

I had to use Lucy alt team there

[lapis moth]

firefly op

[knotty verge]

t100 has 16 prestige more than me. scam

Ig I can't do anything about that 😦

[wide wasp]

How to fix ainz wr?

And good t5?

[obtuse mauve]

Luc cycle is decent, but what happened with your alnagbs? It may be a greater concern

[wide wasp]

I put in grez

[knotty verge]

when I use wutus instead of grez in alna gb, do I use grez somewhere else instead?

[wide wasp]

Send tems

[knotty verge]

or alna grez later again with wutus switching to mauler invade

[wide wasp]

Maybe t5

[knotty verge]

5th team is A Talene L+, Sonja 200, Raku 303e30, LDV 203e30, Kren 303e30

[granite mason]

desira L+ is shit
i'd rather run alna luc cycle

[obtuse mauve]

I think grez is not great, but apart from brawtus, maybe tawlene, idk who to slot in

[wide wasp]

Daimon is the only one i can think of, but grez better

[knotty verge]

I got 30min to change my team. I am 15 prestige away from t100 😦

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/870441771082080308/1066746013613834240/file.jpg

[granite mason]

she needs si to keep the mist when she dies
maybe put grez/ astar in gbs and alna in cycle

[knotty verge]

so twins and desira change positions? and then I swap desira with alna

and in gb Wutus Grez front? My Asta is just L+ too

[granite mason]

yeah swap desira with alna
use grez or daimon in gbs

[knotty verge]

who is stronger? 209e41 grez or 303 daimon

both should have t4 gear (if gear counts)

also do I change pets?

[granite mason]

grez imo
tbh oden and wutus is the carry here, they are just for tank

[knotty verge]

I got talis for luc cycle and rock for gb

[granite mason]

keep it

[knotty verge]

oden behind wutus or grez?

[granite mason]

wutus

[knotty verge]

ty!

[granite mason]

gl

[knotty verge]

so yeah hopefully that can get me to t100

[storm moth]

alna luc cycle op can confirm

[opal bone]

Think I just have to bite the bullet on Grez

And run Lucycle 5th

[quartz salmon]

What your GBs look like

[storm moth]

im gonna run ldv raku as my 5th

[storm moth]

fuck them

i dont use them

[quartz salmon]

Lol

Maybe GBs are better than LDV raku

[storm moth]

fuck no

i dony belive that raku ldv gets less than 22%

[quartz salmon]

LDV raku doesn’t see too hot

[quartz salmon]

That’s meh imo

[opal bone]

Idk dude

[quartz salmon]

Maybe I’ll try both

[opal bone]

I lose to pure AGB before

It's not that bad

[quartz salmon]

Hm

I split luc and gbs for t5

Idk how luc cycle alnaless does

[opal bone]

does well

[quartz salmon]

I would think about the same as LDV raku

[knotty verge]

I got 44% winrate with l+ desira in my region

[quartz salmon]

Region 39 ?

[knotty verge]

40

[quartz salmon]

Ic

I’ll try that then run LDV raku after rewards

[storm moth]

okay i will try normal agb

[quartz salmon]

Rewards are after this one right?

[knotty verge]

yes

[quartz salmon]

I’m doing Daimon front instead of grez

Seems like a terrible idea

[storm moth]

[knotty verge]

ferael front for the hype

[quartz salmon]

Grez should benefit more from buff

Naaahh bruv

[knotty verge]

I saw some campaign gb teams with ferael front lmao

[quartz salmon]

But my Daimon is 309e30 it’s a shame not to use him when grez is shit

[quartz salmon]

Yeah if he can dodge it’s pretty op

But only good against very specific formations

Which isn’t the case in ts

[knotty verge]

ooh ok

[lime zinc]

Ferael front works for counter teaming Atha but that's only for modes where you can choose your matchup

[frozen crest]

37%, first time i wont get t50 i see

[still heron]

37% wtf are u doing ?

[wide wasp]

and it works better than urs

been in top 100 for all rounds so far

[candid tulip]

I just opened treasure scramble is there any beginner guide for it?

[wide wasp]

when i dont try , im in top 100 , when i try im not

[wide wasp]

just ask for teams here

[candid tulip]

Ok, but does it matter what I chose from these?

[lime zinc]

It mostly won't matter for a normal player

[wide wasp]

not realy\

[wide wasp]

for me it matters... im beating @storm moth and @quartz salmon even doe my heroes are way worse

[candid tulip]

Ok thx

[quartz salmon]

Hey what route did you take btw

[wide wasp]

im not telling

[quartz salmon]

Lmao

[wide wasp]

[quartz salmon]

Left for sure

[wide wasp]

why u say so?

[candid tulip]

So…could you please give suggestions for 2 teams?

[quartz salmon]

Because I’m middle and mingles is right

[wide wasp]

mingles is farther than me

[quartz salmon]

You are at t2 still ?

[wide wasp]

he just started

[candid tulip]

I just opened it

[quartz salmon]

Because she’s full skill, still harder route

[wide wasp]

she?

[quartz salmon]

He

She

I don’t know

[wide wasp]

he

[quartz salmon]

He

Alright

[wide wasp]

dont tell poehoe

[quartz salmon]

Your route?

[wide wasp]

ye

[quartz salmon]

Will probably even out next ts doesn’t matter

But okey

[wide wasp]

its my mission to finally beat him.. i come so close usually

[quartz salmon]

Lol

Ic it’s a competition

Gl then

[wide wasp]

its looking good so far

havent been out of top 100 this whole TS

[quartz salmon]

Nice

Did you get t100 last time?

[wide wasp]

no

[quartz salmon]

Ok so first one

Cool

Get it boi

[wide wasp]

i will

[knotty verge]

I am just telling u now but you can already tell how many people choose which path

there's a psychological connection between where the path button is and the color it represents

[wide wasp]

nah i just choose randomly idk

[knotty verge]

you think it's random but it's not equally distributed

[wide wasp]

alot of ppl choose middle cuz blue is most liekd colour....

and the length of the routes too

[knotty verge]

so you chose middle this time

[wide wasp]

no

[knotty verge]

got u

[wide wasp]

i mean most % of ppl do

and blue route R**** on our srever

[storm moth]

in right

[wide wasp]

same

[quartz salmon]

He’s actually middle one

I was trying to make skeepies admit which route he took

[storm moth]

lel

[quartz salmon]

Soooo seems like right

Gat you

[wide wasp]

tbh idek what one i took

[storm moth]

i either have to wait 2 more days or push rift to +30 wutus

[wide wasp]

skill issue

[quartz salmon]

I’m at 240

[storm moth]

how is that a skill issue

[quartz salmon]

Too lazy to push

[storm moth]

im at 300

and would have to push to 330

[quartz salmon]

That’s doable

[wide wasp]

same at 235

[quartz salmon]

Lvl 17 Larry right ?

[storm moth]

19 actually

[quartz salmon]

Damn

Whel

[storm moth]

[lime zinc]

Isn't 19 standard for f2p

iirc I'm at 19

[quartz salmon]

Yes

I’m just not pushing rift

[wide wasp]

larry?

[quartz salmon]

Ye

[lime zinc]

Army Larry

[steady hill]

tf is a larry

[still heron]

Whats ur floor ?

[quartz salmon]

240

[still heron]

Larry=armillary

[quartz salmon]

I haven’t touch rift in 2 weeks nearly

[steady hill]

oh armillary

i thought its a pet

[still heron]

U lazy mfer

[lime zinc]

Auto using resets is nice

[quartz salmon]

I know

Raku is pretty far behind aswell I think

Like 250 or some

[steady hill]

imagine not pushing

[still heron]

Lets not talk about him

[quartz salmon]

Whel alert 🚨

[quartz salmon]

Why lol

[still heron]

Why not

[steady hill]

f2p certified

btw

[quartz salmon]

Ic

Then yeah fu raku

[quartz salmon]

Show certificate

Raku has one

Where is yours

[lime zinc]

The 2 in F2P stands for VIP29

[steady hill]

[wide wasp]

forged

[quartz salmon]

Not spending a single dime hahah

[still heron]

Free2pay

[steady hill]

lies and slander

[earnest tendon]

Me need help

[storm moth]

why skreg no si20

[earnest tendon]

need emblems for other heroes

[storm moth]

[earnest tendon]

anasta neva talene joa have higher prio

[storm moth]

wtf joa not +20 yet

[earnest tendon]

i dont even have joa yet wtf

[storm moth]

that doesnt make things better

[lapis moth]

dat 15 resses

[knotty verge]

haelus 309e60 but no JoA sus

[earnest tendon]

its not sus i didnt play when joa came out

[granite mason]

ew poverty yen

[earnest tendon]

i have higher prio heroes than her

[granite mason]

cr heroes?

[earnest tendon]

correct

[granite mason]

[earnest tendon]

anasta for example

[granite mason]

oh anasta is

[earnest tendon]

shes on wl but not getting furn
anasta gona get all the cards so theres that

[granite mason]

if you want to build for ts then build her imo
203e38 atk mp

[earnest tendon]

nah thats weak

[granite mason]

decent

[earnest tendon]

im going for 309e60

[granite mason]

whale

[earnest tendon]

no

[opal bone]

3 games into 5t and I'm already getting fucked, every single team is whale.

[lapis moth]

[granite mason]

normal thing existed in ts

[earnest tendon]

i have the mats to 20xe60 her

[opal bone]

It's not normal for it to pop mid way through last round and punish people in the t35-55 bracket

Since we will be the ones affected hardest

[granite mason]

anasta first

[restive goblet]

Lucy cycle is 0W 7L in 5 teams 🫣

[opal bone]

It's so stupid

[restive goblet]

and so is scarlet burst

[earnest tendon]

yes im talking about her

[lapis moth]

game is stupid

[opal bone]

You get farmed on repeat while everyone gets to catch up to you FOR FREE

[granite mason]

anasta? 309e60

[lapis moth]

random bs comps beating everything else because full e60

[granite mason]

PAY MORE TO WIN

[obtuse mauve]

The exact moment you raise to more teams, you only face players that already raised, so likely stronger than you. It's always like that. It's bad design, but TS is lots of random shit anyway...

[opal bone]

I know how it works, I'm not even annoyed it works that way, I'm annoyed that the way it is set up round week 1 has it happen midway through last round, effectively fucking over anyone that pulled away from the pack.

[polar dune]

at least ur last 20 match

[opal bone]

Since you'll be halted and everyone allowed to reach 5k.

[polar dune]

isn't against the no.1 guy

whoever that loser is

fk him

cus i aint vsing no.1

[restive goblet]

[opal bone]

Not even that bad

[restive goblet]

Yeah the top three teams are holding it down

[obtuse mauve]

It's the way things are in ts. There is a certain pattern that may screw you, and lots of rng that may screw you even harder

It's mostly bad, untested design, imo

[polar dune]

Don’t see how its untest

Or is it bad

[obtuse mauve]

Imo the "choose a path" thing is the worst

[opal bone]

It's mainly people in 35-50 and 85-100 that get punished

For rest doesn't matter

[obtuse mauve]

I don't think all that happens is thoroughly intended

[opal bone]

Ofc it is not

[polar dune]

So you want 5 team ppl to match with 4 team ppl?

[granite mason]

true lol

[opal bone]

The people who made this system likely have no idea what is going on

Just copied some mmr system

[polar dune]

I’m pretty sure they had a very clear idea what they were going for

Might not fit your ideal style of gameplay but they had goal in mind

[opal bone]

Then they are incredibly heinous by making t5 transition happen midway last round before rewards

[obtuse mauve]

I think they had a clear idea, but there are corner case they didn't foresee

Maybe untested was a bit too much, tbh

[polar dune]

They don’t control when you hit the trophy - its a give and take system where every fight are given a value like the described mmr system. The reason why you are visibly upset bc the potential reward loss which you then feel like its the flaw in the system. Reality is they match 5 on 5 to create what I like to call as smooth as a transition as possible bc 5 team ; ppl tend to change up hero to fit all 5 team power threshold. 5 team match with 4 team would have been a design flaw. Now to your other query about 35-50 and 85-100 ; that is applicable for all ranking. In Fabled or even just recent Grant Hunt , being anywhere near the cut off would risk you from being kick out if anyone above attack. Is it a fair system? No but is life ever fair?

[opal bone]

[molten sparrow]

Do I want to change anything?

[opal bone]

It's unfair and bad.

[polar dune]

Is the system improvable? Sure , but if you want a giant sign that warn you that you might enter 5 team during this bracket then sure make it a suggestion

If not , there has been enough rotation of ts for you to be able to count whatever time you might hit 5 team

Yeah so does cr top 50 only get to improve on their frame but everyone still try

[obtuse mauve]

5 team people also have a 4 team set.

[polar dune]

There is always 51-200 top loser spender

[polar dune]

Wdym

Like do you not get solely 5 team attacks round at 4k bracket

[obtuse mauve]

The number of teams can be picked to balance from the lowest rank

[polar dune]

The ultimate goal of the system is to not have any 1 battle leftover so it will try its best to match you

[civic sage]

Get rid of Hodgkin in Cycle

[molten sparrow]

And replace with who?

[polar dune]

So if there is an imbalance , the system will try the most likely source to get the intended preset result

[civic sage]

Desira/Skreg/Yen

Yen in Cycle seems alright if you have absolutely no options to use

[opal bone]

You did not read what I said carefully, or did not understand what my issue actually is.
I fully understand how and when we'll be hitting 5 teams.
My issue is not even with the fact that reaching a new tier acts like an equalizer of sorts between people.
My issue is that it happens on last round before rewards, making everyone entering it have to fight predominantly whales and get their progress halted until a lot more people enter that tier, making it so it is incredibly RNG on who finishes where because there will be very few battles between people of equal roster power RIGHT BEFORE IT ENDS

[trail swift]

hiding ts teams is illegal 😠

[molten sparrow]

Don't have yen because I'm a dumbass

[civic sage]

Oh

Could try Neva

[trail swift]

yen seems kinda like joan where you can dump her into any team and itll do better :3

[civic sage]

and +20 her for now

[granite mason]

alna luc cycle
wokelene in gb

[opal bone]

She definitely wants Albedo a lot more than Joan since she's a dps

[trail swift]

troo

[molten sparrow]

What's Alna Lucreita cycle and Wokelene?

[granite mason]

basically alna luc front and cycle back
wokelene is awtalene, use her for alna in gbs comp

[polar dune]

You lose some battle until the system equalize and find the suitable bracket corresponding to your rank again. Sometimes your battle is hauled overall, thats why not every 50 battles is concluded at the same time. If you naturally beat the people around that bracket , you will beat them again. Whale would have to fight predominantly whale as well and they would exhaust their battle with that bracket before vsing you. Basically at any reward bracket level is not safe bc of it ; top 10 can lose out bc of it ; top 20 can lose out bc of it and so on. It is incredibly RNG but the point if you ever manage to take a round off these whale would be insane , and whoever enter the bracket would face same result aka having to vs the whale as well. You’ll ping pong with those ppl and then get match with them so in the end its only the few battle cost.

[opal bone]

Stop trying to explain to me how the system works, I understand it.
Whale fighting whale doesn't matter as much because whales (t35-t1) won't be affected by the new tier equalizing effect.
You don't even get that much for beating whales because most are low into new tier either way.
And your last point is my big issue. There will be very few games, maybe 5-10, where people actually fight "fair" battles against those closer in rank to them.

[molten sparrow]

So, this?

[opal bone]

Idk how to explain this better, but tl;dr is that this creates insane RNG in a gratuitous manner.

[trail swift]

anyone think a 200 geralt will do decent this TS? he does have some multihits (in 5th team which is just random bs already so yeah)

[opal bone]

The game mode has RNG already.

[molten sparrow]

I glitched the game somehow. I have two of the same pets!

[polar dune]

You aren’t penalized as hard losing those battle as you would someone from your expected trophy count but yes you want the true equality where you’ll hit x people around your bracket bc supposively they are equal to you and not the ppl in the above bracket

[opal bone]

I still get -8 for losing 2-3

[polar dune]

Let me login and check

[opal bone]

Despite every single person I fought having been higher

52nd already

0%, 11%, 22%

Fuck you Lilith

Also for some reason my Dim team reverted back to Chicken Dim from @obtuse mauve at 5T

What

I changed it for both 4t and 5t

[polar dune]

seem pretty normal

you are vsing people within ± 50 of your trophy count

[opal bone]

Classylambo is 120+

[polar dune]

yeah after the flip floppery

[opal bone]

I face him a lot

[obtuse mauve]

Hm... That's weird. But you get another chance to test my scam! Be proud

[polar dune]

mean the system calibrating him to be worst

cus he is flip flopping his battle

system calibrate you with the other and now expected to push u higher

its mainly the same ppl ur still fighting

within the bracket the system establish as ur elo

if u were certainly vsing me then the system is wack

[molten sparrow]

This better?

[polar dune]

won this 3-2 and got 0

system at work expecting me to win more for pts bc im higher in the bracket

all im saying is stop looking at ur ts

you'll be where your team will take you

if u think u build a good team then let them take the wheel and checkback in 6 hrs

[dusk tundra]

What should I do to fix cycle and GBs??

[quartz salmon]

Apparently Alna luc cycle works better than just luc cycle

Could try that and ditch totally gbs

If you have another solid team

[dusk tundra]

Does a burst team work?

[quartz salmon]

That’s a very good question

[dusk tundra]

Here’s my box

[quartz salmon]

I’m super nub with older region idk what works

[dusk tundra]

What do I replace with Alna for cycle?

[still heron]

Whale stuff

[quartz salmon]

Eorin

But not sure if he wants Alna for survivability

Still a better sub than grez

Grez is ass this debuff

[civic sage]

Why not try Zol Anasta Zaph Atha Astar for a burst team @dusk tundra

[dusk tundra]

In replace of Alna GB yeah?

[still heron]

Make my teams im too lazy

[civic sage]

Yes

[civic sage]

You're a kraken, I'm clueless

Just copy Luster's teams and profit

and then put Alna in Luc Cycle @dusk tundra

[still heron]

Missing too much furn

[civic sage]

that seems somewhat common, but I don't know how well that would translate to your region

[civic sage]

What are you missing?

isn't your PvP roster better than his

[still heron]

Alot

[civic sage]

This is just Cruke though, I don't think he even has him A

unless Baden 9F is important in TS

[still heron]

Flaw said i should do Payden

[obtuse mauve]

Missing so much furniture that 4 heroes in wl aren't even ascended yet

[dusk tundra]

Investing

[obtuse mauve]

It's the opposite of missing

[dusk tundra]

Mine is basically the same lol

[civic sage]

Might be good for PvP

[still heron]

Luster said Palmer

[dusk tundra]

Team should I use for 5 teams?

[civic sage]

I don't know which is better but just follow Luster

[civic sage]

Probably start running AGB again and replace Atha in burst for someone else

[still heron]

Its easier for me to merc Palmer

[civic sage]

Is merc Palmer actually worth it for you in CR?

[still heron]

Its Palmer or Veithael

[civic sage]

I think Vei is BiS in all the ones Palmer is

so it might still be worth to go for Palmer > Waden, but I'm not sure on how impactful each one is

[dusk tundra]

Who would you recommend?

[dusk tundra]

Also what is the optimal investment in Palmer😂

[civic sage]

209e39(MP/CDA/CRIT)

e44 being optional

[civic sage]

Lorsan is the one that comes to mind

but I'm not too familiar on what the meta burst consists of and the main subs

[dusk tundra]

Fair

Is Raku LDV good this buff?

[civic sage]

More of a consideration at 6 teams and above

[dusk tundra]

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking of

[civic sage]

Then Raku LDV is fine

[twilit gulch]

I regret running it at 5 teams

Should've went dims

[obtuse mauve]

What's your raku ldv comp?

[dusk tundra]

Or should I just add Ainz to dims and make the 6th team a wutus skreg invade?

[obtuse mauve]

I'm running it as team 5 too, geralt, zol, raku, ldv, Anasta

[twilit gulch]

[lime zinc]

It's rough using zol without Lyca

[civic sage]

You could, but that's what I'm doing and Ainz is trash for me

[civic sage]

203e60 Anasta

[twilit gulch]

I was tempted to card 9f

But I still got Merlin

[dusk tundra]

I do be having the beefy 309e60 Ainz

[civic sage]

Makes sense, still looks very weird

[lime zinc]

I'm getting like ~50% with Ainz dims

[twilit gulch]

Maybe if I don't get 9f by 2nd round I'll card

[civic sage]

Maybe he'll be good then

I have 208 Ezio, maybe carding him will help my Ainz dims

[still heron]

Better then 3%

[dusk tundra]

My ezio has been neglected, only 205

[lime zinc]

Ainz dims being my 2nd highest WR team shows how shit my teams are

[still heron]

Iirc ur on an old fücked up region

[lime zinc]

Yeah R9, same region as Peach but I'm smol n very weak

[still heron]

Im R32 big difference

Gabe is always touching me

[twilit gulch]

Wallet difference

Touch him back

[still heron]

Sometimes

[lime zinc]

I was on copium to think I could get a better rank after getting an Aw to A1

[lapis moth]

bear can help gib kraken tips

[still heron]

Make my teams

[twilit gulch]

U want 3% teams?

[opal bone]

@polar dune Been top50 the entire time except for t3 to t4 transition, the same will happen now, already 64th.

100% good system and not complete dogshit.

And tomorrow I will be t50 again.

Because I don't have to face t20-30 whales.

[lapis moth]

Maybe should fix your teams next time

[opal bone]

It's not teams

[lapis moth]

Like aim for t60 to get t50

[opal bone]

Oh, yes.

I've said that many times before though.

You're better off being 60-65 when going into new team tier.

[lapis moth]

practice what you preach sir

[opal bone]

Opposite is happening on Jingles now.

Highest I've been was like T90.

Most of the time spent 1%, border of T100.

Now I am suddenly 68th.

This is some real bullshit.

[lapis moth]

[misty epoch]

[lapis moth]

[twilit gulch]

Think I'm safe

50 points above t50

[opal bone]

How are you sweating for t50

[twilit gulch]

Tbh I'm not anymore

But sometimes I get close

[cinder cargo]

Send me those cheat codes as well

[cinder cargo]

Mostly f2p refers to players VIP 16-18

[misty epoch]

DM

[restive goblet]

I swing between 25th and 70th. I think you have to be pretty far ahead to not sweat t50

[opal bone]

Bear is known Kraken.

[cinder cargo]

It's more chill on newer servers

Or older servers

It's just the middle ones that suck

[opal bone]

Refer to my rant above.

The system is very flawed when team tier changes on reward day.

[cinder cargo]

Oh

[storm moth]

4 battles left 82nd

[opal bone]

Did you pass skippy

See?

Poe outside t100 whole time.

Team tier change

Bursts into t100

[storm moth]

no hes 80

[opal bone]

At the expense of others

System fucks you over for doing well.

[storm moth]

system hates me

[misty epoch]

What are you on about?

[opal bone]

Not going over it again.

[misty epoch]

Dew it

[opal bone]

Scroll up if curious.

[misty epoch]

Just intentionally sand bag then

Ez

[civic sage]

Why does the increase in teams affect your ranking though?

[misty epoch]

Because facing stronger players

[opal bone]

Again, not going over it the thirdtime.

[misty epoch]

You should just write the whole paragraph ranting about it and someone pin it

[civic sage]

I mean that seems like the innate workings of a competitive system, not sure how that would be fixed

[opal bone]

It's not though. Team tier changes are designed as equalizers, which is not inherently bad, but it is when it happens right before rewards are calculated, since the first 50-100 battles in a new team tier can be incredibly random.

[misty epoch]

Exactly and besides like you said, I don't know how you could 'fix' it

[opal bone]

And people who get into those team tiers are punished more for it.

[twilit gulch]

Because how TS works is you get grouped into fights with other players. When you just move up in teams you get grouped with generally stronger players so you get shit on. Players who move up to new teams a few fights after might get put into an easier group since there's more players now

[opal bone]

You fix it by capping week 1 at 4 teams.

[misty epoch]

I feel like having a deja vu

Didn't we talk about this already?

[twilit gulch]

Idk

[opal bone]

I ranted about it earlier.

[civic sage]

Just don't lose then

[twilit gulch]

Doesn't matter to me

I'm t50

[misty epoch]

Like I said, just int 1 day before if you think it makes a difference

Either your theory is right or you get kicked out of t100

[opal bone]

I also got a random ass bug. My Dim team in 5T was the Chicken variant I tested round 1 4T yesterday, and was shit, even though I never submitted it for 5T.

I thought "Oh, maybe I did and forgot, w/e"

[twilit gulch]

The thing is it only affects like the first ~100 points

After that it evens out

[opal bone]

But when I try to edit my 5T, it's not chicken variant.

It's my regular Dim team that should've been in.

[opal bone]

Yea, tomorrow I'll be top40 again.

[misty epoch]

Sounds like msi to me

[opal bone]

Mid season invitational?

[misty epoch]

Massive skill issue

[twilit gulch]

[opal bone]

Sounds like ||~dn~||

[misty epoch]

😮

[lapis moth]

[restive goblet]

I kind of agree that having the division change right before rewards come out can feel kind of bs because of all the rng it introduces, but I think that may be intentional

the shake up right at the end is “exciting”

[opal bone]

"Exciting" ??

[twilit gulch]

Gets ppl to spend to secure rank

[restive goblet]

there’s a hope for people in t70 to make t50 basically

[opal bone]

You're right, sounds like something a clueless intern from Lilith would think.

[restive goblet]

and there’s no guarantee that t40 will stay t50

[twilit gulch]

Notice how the top players don't have this issue

[restive goblet]

like blue shells in Mario kart

[twilit gulch]

Since they're in 5 teams like 1 or 2 rounds ago

[opal bone]

Pretty much.

Also this is easily verifiable for people outside t50 or t100

As exemplified with my Jingels acc and Poe

[trail swift]

bruh

this shit used my prior teams even tho i updated that rank like 4 hours ago

wut happin 😵

[twilit gulch]

You needed to have it updated 6 hours ago

[trail swift]

i always cut it kinda close and this never happened. i assumed it used your set team when entering a new rank

i dropped into the former rank now heheh

[misty epoch]

T38 finish

[lime zinc]

If you didn't update teams for the next rank it doesn't change the teams
It's always required you to manually change it for every rank

[lapis moth]

happens to the best of us

[twilit gulch]

R40 T26

[obtuse mauve]

R37, T54. ChickenDims going strong.

[twilit gulch]

Might try to go for 20 next debuff for round 1

[alpine grove]

Chicken dims what in the

[obtuse mauve]

It's my scam, don't copy it. It only works for me

[lapis moth]

30% higher same wutus alna gb

[lime zinc]

I browsed the teams used by T100 in R9 and they've got 4 A5 30960 AWs

[lapis moth]

is your wutus full t4 yet

[twilit gulch]

Yea

Been full t4 lol

[lapis moth]

rip

[twilit gulch]

Oh I have winged lion in that team

[lapis moth]

ah I see

[opal bone]

Freegion, how is chicken dims that good?

[storm moth]

@civic sage i got t100

[obtuse mauve]

It's a well thought out comp, wdym?

[twilit gulch]

Grats

[civic sage]

Well done

finally

[storm moth]

wdym i was top 100 last time

[alpine grove]

I hit top 14% for about 30min which is a new record for me 😍

[restive goblet]

Teams are locked in at the beginning of rounds. Whatever is set in your formations when the 50 battles start will not change until the 50 battles are over.

[civic sage]

I just remember you being 1% all the time

[twilit gulch]

Still got enough chests for 4 more full t4s

[misty epoch]

[restive goblet]

ended at t32

[storm moth]

now i have to clear 41-12 without 5* call

[late remnant]

R37 Rank 47 🎉

[obtuse mauve]

Another R37 fellow!

[storm moth]

@opal bone

[lapis moth]

[late remnant]

Hiii

[opal bone]

Beaten by skippy.

[storm moth]

tru

at least im top 100

[obtuse mauve]

Congratulations

[polar dune]

stand by the "if your team is solid enough , won't make a diff"

went into first 20 fight down bad

end it like this

gap b/w myself and the other in the top 10 is the same as jingle with the ppl she vs

[obtuse mauve]

How many fights between the two SS?

[polar dune]

30 fight or so

[obtuse mauve]

What if it was half of it or less?

Would it make a difference?

[polar dune]

you mean if it was 15 fight

well that very dependent on how certain fight outcome

I went in already fking up my team bc I was trying to run another strats

i still ping pong fight

I just ping pong less than jingle

[obtuse mauve]

It you hit the plateau closer to the end, you get stuck in the saturation area, which distorts elo

[polar dune]

you can keep going

there is no plateau

there is only people around you artifically netting you back

also about winning the important fight

if you check Jingle's match history and then check mine , there is a pattern of people who show up either close to our rank or just a bit above

if you win those fight - those are little pts gain then u see a few rounder that show up

you lose those and it cost more pts

[steady hill]

calc day

[solemn sage]

26th r2
Fat fire, winged, talismane, blade ridge, owl

[gaunt marten]

Abaden is such a good boy

This was fun, my usual athane comp was getting 70% so not too bad I think I just need bigger mulan probably bigger lyca

Trying vei over anasta now

[opal bone]

Bigger Lyca might ruin some campaign stages

[gaunt marten]

Huh interesting

[gilded salmon]

how come?

[steady hill]

whaat

[opal bone]

Steals barricades, doesn't tank taints, etc

[steady hill]

oh yea

thoran barricade rounds suk

[polar dune]

This comp looks familiar

[steady hill]

[gaunt marten]

I usually just touch campaign once a month and barrel thru

[steady hill]

and why is scarlet over there

[gaunt marten]

What

[opal bone]

That's Mulan

[steady hill]

her head got bigger

oh

[gaunt marten]

Someone in top 5 in my region is running this but has 309e60 mulan

I'm kinda surprised mine did okay with much smaller investments

[steady hill]

i need a way to get 3k cores before mulan

[gaunt marten]

🥹

[steady hill]

and 9 cards

[gaunt marten]

Whale mulan whale cores

[opal bone]

Mulan is in 35 days

[opal bone]

You can get 5-6k cores easy

[steady hill]

f2p wae

[opal bone]

Yes f2p

[gaunt marten]

I had to card her bc during the great trez poe pull I pulled like 130k poe and she got 1 furn

Yeah I get Cores like crazy

[steady hill]

0.1% cr top 5 ts top 200 gh

[gaunt marten]

I don't really have to buy mats anymore I just save up for shit I know is gonna release soon that looks good

[steady hill]

u think i would make it

[gaunt marten]

[steady hill]

and doing f2p stuffs

[storm moth]

i need 6 more for mulan

[trail swift]

6 more wot

[storm moth]

furn

[lapis moth]

what if she bad

[polar dune]

copy my fking ass

I ran that sht day 3

[storm moth]

shes already good

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

flaw shes good right?

[lapis moth]

not before raku 8/9f or probably other higher prios

[polar dune]

not in my region

but she decent

[storm moth]

i have my prios done and raku is on wl

[polar dune]

robo was asking me about it

[gaunt marten]

Oh nice

[polar dune]

cus my region top 10 is fking huge

54% is aight

[lapis moth]

what about like

lorsan 9f hodge 9f

[gaunt marten]

For what

Oh I missed that convo lol

[polar dune]

just didn't work for me particularly but work for my guild mate

[storm moth]

hodge 7f and im not gonna invest into lorsan yet

[polar dune]

it was the alternate zaph test

[lapis moth]

[polar dune]

Zaphless ppl would make that v nice to use

[storm moth]

lorsan if my next fucker on wl

[lapis moth]

also get ezio if he's not there yet

[storm moth]

mulan better ong

[lapis moth]

[storm moth]

[polar dune]

wtf are you guys gonna use the 9F for

[lapis moth]

wutus pvp sir

[gaunt marten]

Yeah I don't have zaph so it's why I tried it

[polar dune]

Wutus pvp ? With lorsan?

[lapis moth]

ofc not same team

these are just higher prios than mulan

cuz I know smoku is simping her

[storm moth]

isnt 9f lorsan for cr

[lapis moth]

cr pvp rift tower, everywhere basically

[storm moth]

im not

i just want built mulan

209

and maybe e30

[twilit gulch]

Idk how much I'll build her

But her 9f is mandatory it feels like

[civic sage]

Do you know if she's nearly as effective without the e60 for PvP?

[opal bone]

Imagine not e60'ing Mulan.

CR nerds

[twilit gulch]

Both her e30 and E60 skills seem good tho

Might be pvp only hero

[storm moth]

nah she will probably see some campaign uses

[twilit gulch]

I still gotta e60 Vei, CRuke, next awk I'm building

F2poor life

[knotty verge]

I'm in top 90 rn. I hope I will stay there to get the ToT cards 😐

[twilit gulch]

Round 1 ended

[restive goblet]

I need to decide my next cele and awakened soon. I have like 70k poe coins piled up

[storm moth]

round already ended

[knotty verge]

whaaaat

[storm moth]

[knotty verge]

I AM TOP 89

[storm moth]

nice

[twilit gulch]

[knotty verge]

thanks for helping me out this much

[twilit gulch]

Does CRuke see CR use?

[sacred notch]

I think at least 2 rotations?

[knotty verge]

prob. he is really high in the overall tier list

[twilit gulch]

Good enough

[storm moth]

he does but i still think vei better

[twilit gulch]

Should prob do talene for CR tho

[knotty verge]

poe u got a fully built thane already, right?

[storm moth]

vei > talene

[storm moth]

yeah

and 3 copies from wutus

[knotty verge]

what awk are u building rn? wutus?

[storm moth]

[sacred notch]

If not close to orthos 3f then no real point in building talene just yet

[knotty verge]

I got 5 copies of awk talene, sad life

the game really wants me to build her

[storm moth]

well

he can build both

its bear after all

[sacred notch]

Does bear even have Ezizh yet?

Or zol?

[storm moth]

who tf knows

he does probably

[twilit gulch]

I got zol

[restive goblet]

Is orthros worth it over athalia?

[twilit gulch]

Not ezizh or othros

[restive goblet]

I just finished ezizh and did zol first. I’m leaning toward athalia next

[twilit gulch]

Who do I get from chall store now

Star for Zol?

[sacred notch]

Either zol star or Ezizh idk tbh

[sacred notch]

If ur already comfortable in TS, why not bump up the cr score

Also round 3 grand hunt as a bonus

Because I think all seasons have ended with talene meta

[twilit gulch]

Prob ezizh then

I'll get Zol star when I have mats

[knotty verge]

should I give my wutus t4 weap + boots out of choice chests?

[restive goblet]

I could do that. I could build talene with cards and use the store for orthros. It’s either that or build athalia from the store and build vei or cruke instead of talene

[sacred notch]

Just wherever ur priorities lie ig

What is ur average cr score?

[civic sage]

Yes

[restive goblet]

Not as well as I should because I don’t keep that up to date with the teams

[sacred notch]

https://tenor.com/view/how-disappointing-snape-so-sad-harry-potter-severus-snape-gif-17149410

[restive goblet]

But usually 40-50%

[twilit gulch]

I'm starting to be around that range

[steady hill]

rush ezizh A1

trust

[twilit gulch]

I trust

[steady hill]

is ur zol A1?

[twilit gulch]

Just A

[steady hill]

get his star first

then rush ezizh

cr, ts relies on ezizh not dying

[sacred notch]

Especially cr

[twilit gulch]

Just e30 for Zol?

[sacred notch]

41

[carmine shale]

Is this Atalene?

[sacred notch]

Regular

[carmine shale]

Interesting

[restive goblet]

regular for CR

[carmine shale]

When I ever see anyone talk about talene orthos comp I always assumed atalene and was like "well I'm fucked, not wasting te cards for that"

So this changes some priorities for me...hmm

[sacred notch]

That's a first

[carmine shale]

Challenger store after dims is still zol > ezizh right? Cause I'm 3 copies deep into zol atm

[sacred notch]

Ye

[carmine shale]

Well then, I still got a good 2 years before I consider the talene orthos comp lel

And it'll be out of meta or afk will be shut down by then 😛

[sacred notch]

I mean, could accelerate zol thru sg

[carmine shale]

I'm still finishing up twins and then doing vei after them, then saving up cards for 1 star on asolice because she should be close to ascended by that time

[sacred notch]

Ahh

[carmine shale]

So probably around...April or may ish I can reconsider that idea, especially since zol will be M by then

Is cursed realm even worth investing in though? All the good rewards are top 32% and up. So it just seems out of reach.

[sacred notch]

Aren't u a low spender?

To some degree?

[carmine shale]

20$ a month usually

Sometimes 30-40 but I try not to

[sacred notch]

Well either way, not even a question tbh. It's free rewards, and making small incremental progress each rotation leads to more overall progress which leads to more small incremental progress and the cycle continues

It's just like TS

But pve

Ur t33 in TS so more reason to start looking at cr

[carmine shale]

Alot easier to prepare for CR than TS atleast, it's mostly static besides the occasional change to a boss like twice a year

Yeah its why I'm considering it lol, no way I can break t20 without going full dolphin

[sacred notch]

I've spent considerably more, but I've focused pretty much all my investments around cr, just profiting off usage overlap. T50 TS pretty consistent and top 20-30%cr

If I actually restarted my account when I came back to the game last year instead of continuing on the months old account. Could prob be close to t20 TS

[dawn tinsel]

Do we have a verdict on ABelinda compared to Wutus or Wolise? I have ~560 ToT cards burning a whole in my account - itching to build my first woke hero!

[proven hearth]

[carmine shale]

I remember playing when afk first released and I was like...man I don't wanna play just to be stuck in Campaign and nothing else to do...now I envy old f2p players.

@dawn tinsel abrutus and asolice are still tied for 1st depending on what you wanna do

[sacred notch]

Belinda isn't knocking wolise off her pedestal anytime soon. Grab wolise

[dawn tinsel]

Generally want overall, with priorities being:

1. max Misty rewards from campaign + TS consistent top 1%
2. secondary pri = long term CR

[carmine shale]

Abelinda is same tier as abaden, nice to have but mostly a merc option

[sacred notch]

Brutus can easily get crept out, wolise will stay for the long term because sustenance

[dawn tinsel]

Wolise vs Wutus thoughts?

[carmine shale]

Wolise

[dawn tinsel]

Got it. Does Wolise help with TS? Not seen her much in any meta comps…

[carmine shale]

Idk man abrutus might be powercrept but not anytime soon, and he's such a Chad character I almost wanna e80 him even though it's a waste for me lol

She's mid range in TS, she pairs well with hyper tanks like Vei or cruke

[sacred notch]

She doesn't help in the way thane does, being a carry or u build a team around. She helps in bringing depth to your roster

[carmine shale]

But she can also be slotted into any team really

[sacred notch]

^^

[dawn tinsel]

I wish discord had a poll feature… this will probably be my only Awakened for a year, really nervous about pulling the trigger and having regrets 😂

[carmine shale]

I guess we don't have bots for that :/

[sacred notch]

Ehh it's looking more like established f2p can start stacking cards and get 2 a year. 120 a year from guild store really helps

[carmine shale]

Or in my case, 3

Deluxe monthly OP

[sacred notch]

It do be

[sacred notch]

U f2p?

How many Awk u got already?

[restive goblet]

I lose to Solise on a large variety of enemy teams

[dawn tinsel]

Very light spender. Some advancement rewards.

[dawn tinsel]

0 😋

[sacred notch]

Oh for some reason I thought u joined the whane hype train

[carmine shale]

For comparison, I got athane first and then abrutus

[sacred notch]

Ig not

[carmine shale]

And I did fine

[sacred notch]

I went brutus wolise

[carmine shale]

But yeah get asolise first man

[sacred notch]

Still no thane

[carmine shale]

I totally got on the train

Sorta regret it but at the same time he single handedly has kept me in t50 in TS so can't complain

[sacred notch]

Like half the active users of this channel got on that train

[carmine shale]

I mean

I'd rather have a e60athane for tower at the end of the day, instead of wasting cores on regular thane

[restive goblet]

Did you notice much difference between L Solise and A Solise in temporal?

[sacred notch]

The time spent with L wolise was a lot less than my time spent with A wolise in temporal so I'm not much a good person to be giving perspective

I'd imagine they perform somewhat similar

At least until 600

I made it to like 660 last season because I didn't have the time to make the extra push to 800

Prob could've gotten there tho

[restive goblet]

What do you guys think about rushing lvl 12 resonance vs getting lion / owl / blade to 15 / 18 first?

the thing I like about resonance is if some new op beast comes out then you can have it useable right away

[twilit gulch]

Not sure tbh, I was planning on getting the major breakpoints for some of the pets after I hit reso 9 next week

Can prob save spices if a new op pet comes out and you want to build them

[polar dune]

are you building tall or wid3e

[gaunt marten]

Athane hype train not a bad one to have jumped on

Especially when he deleted abelinda from ts

[restive goblet]

I mostly stop at e41 or e60, so wide I guess? I just build good heroes when I have enough resources to bring them to a useable spot

[polar dune]

wide mean u go for reso

[marble lichen]

is there a budget vithael team for ts?

[restive goblet]

I see people using him in burst so maybe he can replace raku

idk though, maybe he still needs another carry

[dawn tinsel]

To be completely honest, I was hoping people would say Wutus first 😅😅 he generally seems to be much more visible in TS, and I wasn’t sure how much additional value I would get from A Wolise vs built Neva + L Wolise…

I see the concern that Wutus as a carry may get power crept more easily, but as a carry isn’t he also more impactful right now?

To phrase it more clearly - where/how will built Wolise improve my performance + rewards? Wutus I expect would give me a step change in TS at least short term.

cc @sacred notch as well

[gilded salmon]

Same bro I don't wanna build solise

[gaunt marten]

Abaden is better anyways

Asolise is the first recommended bc good support stays around forever

Look at silas

Rowan

Meanwhile the carries from that time are basically dead

[gilded salmon]

Yeah it makes sense but spending your most valuable resource on anything but a carry just feels so yucky