#treasure-scramble
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You're also exaggerating, I saw 3-4 people disagreeing.
Oh ok, same as me
Yeah we've punched each other a couple times
I'm up here getting pounded by top 10 now

You are on some high copium if you think Lilith's matchmaking isn't complete trash, and vulnerable to inconsistencies.
Just earlier I fought the same guy 6-7 times in just my most recent 10 matches.
If path even matters its not a variable that can be controlled well enough to test
You would have to organize an entire region to pick certain paths
No one's saying the matchmaking isn't sus
This, and yesterday I was like huh it's not doing too hot let me see what top 10 is doing and if I can copy anyone who isn't doing classic abrutus dims
That's common 
Is this a real comp cause I thought I was doing random shit
I've never seen this in my region
Yea I see it a lot on Jingles
I ran that team without Brutus last night 
W what
Joan
What did you oh
Brutus was in alna Gb and actually kicked ass
I saw that a lot last season it looks tight
I might try it
Huh okay so my weird shit making up for not having many dims is a real comp
Astar scares me
I see it with Atalene from time to time in this buff
Astar Atalene and three dims
Yeah that's what I usually see
Looks like Scarlet BOOM is too weak for T3 too.

I need to search back my screenshots from previous multi-hit and see how my Yendims did 
I like yen a lot in ts
Whats a good Investment for Yen ?
Oh, my Yen dims were absolutely destroying
Why the heck am I using scarlet boom

I'm a clown.
is scarlet boom what you call teh raine estrilda etc team
Yes but with Palmer over rayne
would m20 palmer > 203 raine? :q
Why are gbs so damn bad
people were putting oden front in this buff for a while
I haven’t seen that lately though
because they all use Baden now xd
Another @civic sage gaslight 
My Lucy doing better with e+ twins lol
That used to be meta for this debuff 
It was "meta" for like a round because people thought they were cool
Not anymore 
Its Payden time now
People in our region don't have payden
Outside the few dozen whales
I still don't know if Pope belongs in scarlet or Athane.
Wait, I'm confused. It looks like Scar boom was ur 2nd best comp last time, so why are you a clown for running it now?
Because I have better alternatives now. Athane and the option to keep Lucy in GBs.
Which would both do better.
I just kind of forgot Yen dims was so strong this debuff.
I blame the Brutus Dims players
I just run Brutus and Yen together
wait wouldnt that be good for new regions?

Yeah that's what I'm doing
I don't have all the dims for abrutus dims
And my yen not fat enough yet
maybe? Idk if having oden front and grez back is better than vice-versa, but for the first few rotations I noticed a lot of people trying it
Have so many other e60s
imagine maxed trenzor over fat yen 
I think nev and palmer e6x my next
yen only pvp anyway
Yen has trift and campaign uses
yeh but pope so good feels like he deserves it
Also saw her in CR 2 rounds ago


Nev e60 not worth unless you have asolise/abaden
And Palmer e60 is extreme luxury
Would stay away from both for now

You get a pass then 
and I think I'll get pope e6x eventually anyway so rather do it when ship is up
Show box 
There is no way you don't have a much better option
Everyone has 3 awks now 
No they don't
Any tips to improve or for another team? How about pets?
tried it a bit in CR today pretty much every round I added him he benefitted somehow
and only 200 for now
That doesn't mean e6x is efficient
e39 is most efficient
but he shares those stats right
You get most of it in the e39
What's the nodes
let me update my afkit sec
crit/haste, cda/cdr, mp/heal
30% of his attack/def gets shared with allies at max stacks
He shares 150% of his crit amp and pierce with allies he blesses with his ult
ATK is good for Pope iirc
@solemn sage Can explain better. 
It’s unclear to me if he shares his crit from engraves or not:
do engraves increase “base crit rating”
It’s all relative though
5% is 5%
30% of 100 is 30. 30% of 105 is 31.5
31.5 / 30 = 5% increase in the total buff
Why 5% instead of 8%, is it because of stat dilution ig?

Honestly just sorting by engraving and showing box is better than this 
sec
yeah
You don't have Astar e30 or did you forget to add that 
not yet, it's on my prio list
How close are you to Haelus?
Wdym, he doesn't have Zol e60?
It shows 0 to me
I just used the number mingles gave, but that sounds close
and I was told to go for ezizh M SI30 at least before starring zol from challanger
It's probably like 6-7% but still
Is zol e60 that good in TS?
It showed me Zol ascended
Makes sense 🤔
zol ascended 003
Oh
in blizzard buff he does a lot of attacking but in the other two buffs I don’t see zol carrying a lot with his attacks
No, you 100% go for star on him
And e30 at minimum
But from your options Zol, Astar, Haelus are highest e60 prio
Obviously no Haelus A yet
I think e36 or 38 if u don't want to go full 60
Madao seems to have cores to spare
Rather he went e60 Zol than do something liek e60 Pope
Dooo eeet
I have rift to consider as well
@lapis moth e60 anasta right now
that's why I kinda want pope and nev first
You can delay Zol e60 if you want to star him with challenger coins.
And do Nev + Anasta first
I would 10000% do Anasta before zolrath
alright
he doesn’t get any offensive bonus past e41 really
can you explain why anasta so important please
Anasta is meta in every single mode, and does the big damages with e60
compared to e4x
I see
yeah but e60 skills seems like defensive right
What have you been getting in CR lately
40-50% last 3 rounds
probably like top 10 
She needs to stay alive to keep buffing/healing/stomping on everybody. And the effect increases her healing and damage reduction. And she’s good in almost every mode
I see
i need zol for might right?
not sure which teams to use tbh
I think you can get by without, but he's good
everything I see in my guild usually missing like 3-5 heroes
hmm i might be able to do that soon then
perhaps next season
yeah I heared good things about geralt too
I’ve been doing war / cel / sup this season and just winging it
i would rather build zol than invest into geralt now lmao
200 / 203 is enough I hear
for rift
You are extremely far from doing might/cele/sust, even if you got e60 Zol right now for free.
So I would not even consider Zol for Trift for the next 6 months
i am not far sir
Yes you are
Cele/Sus/Tank seems pretty solid for Rift if you don't have the whale units
I am far and I got better box 
Might needs a lot of good heroes
and i have wutus bish 
almost but shush
Wutus is not enough
missing some good tanks like 209 skreg or e60 grez too
ik

might sus cele is op for 3 teams and below if you have thane and Brutus
like ez mode
grez feels kinda meh in rift tbh probably because no defensives from e60
thats because he is
he is meh at e60 too
Attack node is good, but it's smaller gains and costs more cores
I see
If you've got lots of cores it's worth
atk from e30 or e60?
Base means stats from hero page I believe, so engraves count
Just doesn't count any stat increases that happen in the battle
So e60 astar then save for next awk 
ahh it’s so hard to choose between Solise and Baden
if I pick Baden I would be pretty set for temporal as well
Abaden basically mandatory for good CR ranks
And more useful in TS too
Abaden alna is huge upgrade over other alna teams, asolise isnt that big an upgrade in teams I've tried her in
She usually ends up in my 6th team
man this tempts me to go baden even more
I am just going to wait for the new Awk heroes because I am poor 
I kinda wanna see the new celepog awks before I decide
But might be end of the year when they come out
I’m almost at 500 cards so it’s hard to keep saving 
gonna be end of the year before I get the cards xd
pull now or no balls

Yeah it's 8-10 weeks between awakeneds
i started pulling at 200 for whane
500 cards for 12 copies needs a little luck
no way
I got Baeden in 409 cards so it's possible
yes way

I did abaden and asolise in 470 each, athane and atalene took like 600 though
is your baden reserved week after this merc reset 
im at like 150 now or something
Nah
thats also the main reason i wanna go baden I think cause hes so sought after to merc
Abel took 480 for 11 copies, got one copy from stones
I still haven’t gotten an awakened from stones 
i got swolise and whane from like first 10
two days ago I pulled one purple stone and one elite purple stone and they both gave me ulmus
huge
+1 
+2 
I've not gotten an Aw from new stones either. 
Same
💥 
I don't even have 300 cards 
thats good you whel 
Finished 44th, Scarlet boom recovered from mid 40s wr. 
Sure, if I remember
Just remind me 
okay soo
can i merc him for like
forever

If you have Swolise 

For CR it's a no brainer
No, I dumped all my cards and lots of diamonds for haelus last week.
Or I guess this week, after reset. 
Abaden is literally in every mode
He will make your campaign GB team a lot better too
i will just ask every week then 
You're free to ask 

did you forget our deal sir 
Ah shit
Gold fish memory 
Poor smoku
i will just ask woaini every week smh
Are you struggling to get Swolise merc? 
i have perma swolise merc for free smh
to quote a certain person 
Not anymore ig


Be my swolise merc
@lapis moth My Baeden is only 4f cause f2poor 
303e60 is good enough
mine 4f too 
getting poe from nobles though so should get her done soon
madao when will you have your own baden?
Poverty Abadens smh, don't make me summon Gabe.
idk
build him faster then wtf
That's new for me, 3f good enough??? No way
200 tgs + 120 from vip
yeah kadezh said that
I save for next broken thing
Noice
yeah it is apparently
idk free 8b+ in cr is kinda broken to me
yeah but only broken in CR though
My might branch only lvl 12 tho 
amazing in ts too
Good in TS too and trift
Wdym, Abaden is great in every mode
what else you want mf
Are you guys new to AFK? 
Ill wait till next meta awk for CR
^
CR is along with TS the 2 most important game modes so broken 'only' in CR is kind of an understatement
Can just merc him rn
Abaden S tier in 2 TS buffs, S tier in Trift, S tier in campaign, S tier in GB tower, S+++ tier in CR
R37, t79. Kinda ok-ish in the end, but not great
there is no way he gets out of meta any time soon imo
Yea he's meta but I don't have to build him
Sir, I do believe your Wutus is famished.
Feed him, please.

Doing decent in TS, don't use cele for rift, can merc for CR
this and also feels like the more wokes you have the less impact one more would have especially in PVP
@lapis moth mf +30 wutus good

This is massive cope. 
The pvp part.

He was actually m+ during the scramble. I just ascended him. Rosa is still cleaning his rooms
He takes grez spot and I don't have anywhere to put grez 
So gonna wait for more awks

Rosa working overtime
Grez goes in the trash 
fat yen carry 

yeah right smh
Grez going into this year's engraving reset event 
belinda reset is all we get 
when is that btw
April
noice
Or late march

Somewhere around there
New awk by then
I think ainz probably deserves a reset before grez doesn't he
i will reset my daimon finally 
maybe just get the cores back 
My Ainz is not e60 
lol don’t reset grez 
he doesnt 
Ainz op in winter tho
Reset to e38
I'd rather give his cores to yen if I could

Ur ainz E60?
e41
Same
Same
e41 is more than fine
yeh but if not needed in campaign kinda waste of cores imo
isnt campaign like the worst mode to invest in
barely impactful in CR and seems to fall from meta more and more
I still use Ainz in campaign 
or sth like that
But not every multi
idk if ch48
I used him in ch47
fym barely
1b+ dmg is barely
i saw him solo carry at 350 deficit
Also you can start doing split Dim teams in TS, even more easy with Mulan soon.
Split Dims are OP in ice
why won’t they release a dim tower 
plus for a few single uses you can always merc him
im 3% because me dum 
probably not now but give it a few months we'd probably have better comps than use him in CR

arkinz said that he cant be replaced in some rounds

Who?
You don't know Krakinz? 
ainz 
Ainz
I see
Yea, I was thinking about resetting Ainz today until I found out it's only for Baelinda 

I see
are you enjoying our discussion so far 
I've gotten insane value from my 309e41 Ainz up until now.
it worries me
yeah idk why would anybody reset him 
he'd always have 7 teams ts 
he might not see his best times but hes still insane
I mean e30 isn't a big deal though in the long run I imagine and its helping me now so whatever
shards are not big deal in the long run plus you probably should take to e41 for campaign at least
aint we all

I gotta save all my cores to e100 Khazard anyway
sure

at least its not isa/warek/belinda/lizard mfs
fat isa is a desirable merc for CR sir

isa cute
Same, I am always in need of golds
If they release a good 4F hero after Baelinda I'm fucked, because I still need to gather emblems for Mulan.

Still a couple of +20 I would like to do
I buy them in the shop every time they show up cause I just si20 everything I can lul
That's bad, you should save gold for gear
Don't do that unless you're a whale, you'll run out of gold for RC + T3 gear
Don't just +20 every random bullshit
Newer players never think longterm.


I didn't +20 melusina yet
baba yaga useless
gabe

hi
Save the whales
Hi
hi
Hi
hi
Oh okay
what
I'm being gaslit

Ok I was exaggerating a bit when I said si20 everything but sure I'll stop buying the things
Is there a guide for recommended teams based on each of the debuffs?
Not really since your teams depends heavily on investment
People will probably just tell you to copy teams from ppl in the leaderboards
Or copy the teams ppl share here
Copy teams from ppl in the leaderboards or the teams ppl share here 
copy teams from ppl from here or from leaderboards 
Got it. Thanks 🙂
Yes please! Gib donations
Starving fish here. Would appreciate donations as well
ur a beer
Should I start slotting my AThane if he’s 303 or do I wait until 309e60?
probably wait for 5+ teams unless you really can't make a decent 4th imo
at least until e60
getting talene cheesed by fake Bok

Anyone found a good dim team this round that doesn’t use Wutus?

o that doesn't use wutus
And it isn’t dims
Alright sweet ty
No ainz? My ezio and Yennefer are both 203 so I’m not sure I have enough damage
well dim always want a dmg dealer
Yeah I’m saying that I don’t know if my dims are strong enough without ainz yet
❤️
Mine works fine with Ainz over Ezio
Depends on your region
23
Raku LDV or Ainzedo for t4?
ainz might do better
what else am i gonna use lmao
i want to give up again 
Why is my whutus performing so Bad?
u got wolise only right,
u either split gbs into eorin gbs and luc cycle or u put wolise in dims rather than in scarlet
I'm using Ainz in 3 teams 
scarlet insta ult regardless
that's yen carrying
a whole other story

whats yen min
ainz is there to cc
for ts
like a pleb
Behind every strong man skeleton there's a strong woman.

Or in Ainz's case, 2 strong women.
not 3?
damn that's cold
is yen better than mortas for ainz in ts?
Yes
"and then eventually 403680"-mingles, probably
309e60 for now (when I actually reach 9F)
Don't think I'll be duping her.
For a while.

200 Yen, 200 Mortas. Which is better here? Yen’s linked to Astar, so can only use one of them in t4. Need to relink some time…
Go with Yen
Yes, front Grez over Oden though, don't let these delusional hipsters tell you otherwise.

Oh yeah - I remember seeing your earlier messages on that in this channel 🙂 had fixed it for my ongoing t3, will fix it here too - thanks!
Relink now
Astar op this ts
This is what I was thinking for my t5. Using Astar, but subbing Mortas for Yen… Is that a big difference?
Also, while we’re on the topic, any suggestions for t5/6/7? Notable links:
Skreg - JoA
Astar - Yen
warek numisu used in cr
You can link Yen to any of those and set Astar free.
But not with Yen
good point yen isnt used
I saw her used in Abaden team but it's not a big necessity
Regardless, should link Yen to either of those 3, use the astar raku ldv team but with L Talene or Arthur over Nivea frontline
While we're at it, relink Joan to one of those 3 if they are free.
Preferably to Morrow>Numisu>Warek.
nice
That's how getting a ping in here feels
49th, points still very close, only 10 behind 40. 
Wiggles
May be your pet, and I've found working better Brutus albedo, Joan merlin ezio
Yen/Solise over Mortas/Ainz
Palmer in Scarlet if you have investment for him done.
Don't know what to do other than this for 4th 

might work so try it
did you try swapping Zol and Estrilda or is this intentional 
and something else for rosa maybe
Could work, Palmer and Hendrick also worth a try
hendrick 200 palmer m+20 
test them maybe, not sure tbh but I think they could work
Either that or frontline Rosa at least
since takes her long to get to thane at the start
Sometimes people swap Mishka out for Zol because Mishka steals the Raine buff, but personally I found the normal comp to be a tiny bit better
Something like this 
looks alright I think, usually see zol and skreg the other way around
Feel like that comp want a bit too much
But thats just my perspective
If it pull good WR then its fine
all of my comps around 55ish
r7 
Cus Thane is gonna jump anyway - delaying just mean he miss aoe on 3
Then again I use same thing so
so zol bad with thane?
Not bad

Just counter intuitive
Thane want stat , Zolrath take stat - jump scenario
But again if it work then it work
I play same thing
WR has to go down drastically
If its hovering than your opponent could just be having good matchup
Is anyone having an aw Brutus formation out of dims?
U don’t want it
Use JoA > Arthur and Yen > Mortas

I'm changing my teams too much, and in the end, they all get bad wr
@icy surge
Lilith should just add some way of testing our teams out of the event
This its not testing actually, it's improving or so
And you can test what, if you say so
One team at every 12 hrs?
Technically you test multiple team per 12 hrs
And by the end of the event you end on 20% cuz of testing
I keep one team I know is good for reference and use the other ones for testing
Anyway, is there's any replace t for Frampton in Brutus team?
I know what you mean, @lapis moth, but, it's not funny to wait 12 hrs if it sux
you don't need to test from scratch though
If you think you test only 1 team every 12 hrs
Your ability to gather information
Pretry low
You should have plenty of resources on discord
This is what 4-5th rotation
Well, it deppends by the region a lot
Why do you keep bringing that up
The wr from region 4, not even close of region 30, on the same team
One comp is successful bc it abuse the debuff , the region only adjust the overall win rate
And what only relevant to top 100
If you aren’t top 100 , ppl aint switching comp on the fly , its just playing ur best comp

How many accounts are you playing sir
Nah, the wr it's hella diff by the region. So I can't copy paste all my accounts and get the same result
I see
Win rate differ by region bc of the opponent ur vsing - they arent countering ur sht at 1-7%
Single digit region , ppl will run old sht
Randomly it would just be good bc of the debuff
Or bc you didn’t hit breakpoint
Stop blaming it on region
Look at the bigger picture
My accounts are all in single digit region 
U just aren’t playing optimal to your box
U aren’t consolidating team that fit ur style
Well, possible, bcs sometimes I'm getting bad results, so I'm changing teams, and, in the end, I got all the teams bad 
Anyway, I'm on like 2/5% with my accounts
I believe that's just OK for my regions
Triple ts fun 
I’m constant top 10 on multiple account
Yeah against whale ppl
What’s your name in r38 already I forgot? You in top3 iirc
Ic ty
Beside single digit region arent even when the asian exodus start
Not even hard ts region

Aren't about 30 servers per region?? @polar dune
If there's 3 whales at least from each, no way to get top 100
Lucy cycle works in this debuff? I'm struggling to figure the 4th team, and I don't remember what worked last time 
Luc Cycle is pretty good this debuff got me
These are my teams rn, Rank 37 @obtuse mauve
I got no haelus, though, but i think luc cycle it is, thanks
how prio would grez e60/6x be to you?
or rather, before or after anasta
I would not go higher than e38 Grez 
skreg/some healer of such
Freegion with those wr at 37 
mine's at 41
help
Probably after
That's fine
cool thx
I mean for a new region these teams are pretty stacked 
2lene is broken this debuff
Ok, i have one of those 
true
Would Astar filling in Luc cycle be good? Worth the test?
Scarlet is pretty good this debuff so I’m not surprised
If you want to experiment then sure 
She beats everything apart from AwkThane/AwkBrutus for me
Which should be 60-70% of what you face
If you're not, then freegion. 
Astar cycle 
Not really 
I see how you could see it that way. Let's see how it goes...
@civic sage You can check my last 10 games. 19/30 teams are Abrutus/Athane/Abaden.
And like 4 are full e60 whale shit.
That Scarlet would lose to.
And i'm not as high ranked as you. 
If she can survive long enough then its free win for you
Maybe
Green route is hard help
Honestly feels harder than blue, idk why I came here. 
Skeepies still in t100, first time I see him there
Yeah , low quality in single digit
Cause I said green was free last round 
Nearly got t50 which is unusual for me
Most whale wont hyper change their comp in single digit region bc they can just run thru most of the composition thru investment diff
Yeah ig
I'm set. Wish me luck, or not
Well, I never bothered to count so it could be similar 
Big doubt
Why not abrutus gb and 2lene dims 
suggestion approved
time to test and bring us results, private
I like the Brutus yen synnergy
hey guys, which of atalene's or abrutus' SP is prio in the dimensional team?

Awutus'
good question
thanks
Imo in the harder matchups you want Awutus' ability
Nope, it's extra damage and a bit of healing
crits make her hit right?
Yes
so multiple crits=multiple hits
But not ult related, at least not directly
i dont read skills but i saw alene ult within few secs, probably wrong though
Idk if she recovers energy from these extra hits
It’s not like your region is 2x harder than the rest 
Copium at the highest level 
Also do I move Haelus from Athane to Lucy? 
49th atm
59th
You two can speak factless discourse.
Meanwhile I give hard, solid proof.
In the form of actual matchups.

Asta had 14 Abaden/Athane/Abrutus matchups, while higher rank.
Waiting for you in t10
That's BS 
idk man ask him
41-40-5 wutus in charm much better rng

There are so many factors involved... Let's just sum it up and call "skill issues"
plus copium
The most important skill is that of picking the best region
people say that my region is easy, they never considered the fact that i have skills
Ikr dude

Somehow all gachas I've played, i always end up in an easy region. It has to mean something about me
Lucky bastard at least
Raku has 7 Abrutus/Athane/Abaden in last 10

@frozen crest Nice poverty Ezio
Pretty sure 200 Yen better
i fell in rank
that's natural
@civic sage 
How big a difference do you reckon it is vs Desira? 
I mean Haelus vs no Haelus in Lucy

I haven’t ran that in a while so idk
Understandable
can anyone recommend me a team with wutus? he is awakened soon
@frozen crest you need more?
good alr, thx
same tyvm
usually either with dims or alna gb, and later split to mauler invade
ty
so it's alna wutus front, grez silas oden back? and later wututs kren skriath?
fera silas oden back
mauler invade can use different things tbh, wutus skreg skriath kren anasta works
and you can sub random suppport
I got a semi built anasta 302 rn but just a 200 skreg, so anasta and wutus front is best?
people tried out palmer last time with decent results
I'd probably wait until you build them up a bit more before splitting
skreg and anasta don't work well before 9f
Palmer was amazing with Wutus for me in Frozen 
I put skreg off my wishlist for wutus, time to put him back in I guess 


best value according to what
Best return on investment, and general versatility. 
If you have aThane, it would be a shame to not get his boyfriend too.
isn't wutus better for rift too
Sir, I'm not much of an yaoi enthusiast.
Wutus is the weakest team after kren.
Abaden slaps trift.
Ha, fair.
82 
that's a problem for future mingles
She is a must have
Just not sure if top 3
Broken campaign/tower hero, PvE in general 
belinda seems oneshot in not well built teams
I couldnt use my trial belinda in my teams at least
well considering most people don't focus on campaign or AE/HF
I really want that PvP event again with these stages to reach
not sure which teams to build between dims / cycle / gbs with wutus and wolise 
scarlet doesn't seem to work without burst
maybe I should try whane somewhere else
When ur top hero are that
You can do regular Wutus Dims team but with Solise.
And do Wutus simps
like the average of top 5 or wut
Yep
Highest 5 combat ratings
so basically more rc?





